True Crime Time For September 19, 2025 | Murder in Cincinnati, Babies Found in Pennsylvania, and a Chef’s Criminal Fall

Summary

Real Life Real Crime – True Crime Time for September 19, 2025

Hosted by Woody Overton & Cindy Overton

Main Theme:
A weekly roundup of disturbing, twisted, and sometimes darkly humorous true crime stories from across the U.S. and around the world, presented with Woody and Cindy Overton’s signature candid commentary.

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Episode Overview

Woody and Cindy Overton, with Woody’s signature raw and unscripted style, deliver a darkly compelling lineup of recent and historical crime headlines. In today’s episode, the couple dissects crimes of staggering brutality—from multiple U.S. homicides to international scams, familial tragedies, and bizarre criminal downfalls—all interspersed with personal banter and reflections on justice, community, and the pervasiveness of evil.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Michigan: Family Double Murder (03:18)

• Story Summary:

  • On September 1, Hazel Park, Michigan, police found 41-year-old Linda Hill and her 12-year-old son, Cardi Jackson, dead from fatal neck stab wounds.
  • Surveillance footage and a family phone call implicated Linda’s 43-year-old brother, Ladamian Keith Hill; he was arrested in his red Lincoln car, with blood evidence found.
  • Odd behavior followed: he returned to the crime scene naked, lay in Linda’s bed for 5–15 minutes, then left.

• Memorable Family Reaction:

  • “We got the four whys, but we don’t have the fifth why.” – Cardi’s older brother Demontes (06:08)
  • Woody interprets: “Who, what, when, where, why? … Those aren't why, that's only one why.” (06:25)

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2. Pennsylvania: Babies Found After Eviction (07:24)

• Story Summary:
  • Jessica Moth, 39, was evicted from her Ford City apartment. A cleaning crew discovered a trash bag containing a dead baby, and two more dead infants in attic storage bins.
  • Moth admitted to giving birth and hiding the babies. She was charged with criminal homicide.
• Notable Reaction:
  • “She used to be charged as a devil.” – Cindy (09:35)
  • “Just wanted to up your day to get started.” – Woody, wryly (09:59)

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3. Japan: Romance Scam Targets Elderly Woman (10:18)

• Story Summary:

  • An 80-year-old Hokkaido woman was convinced by an online scammer, posing as a stranded astronaut, to send 1 million yen (~$6,700) “for oxygen.”
  • Police used the incident to spotlight a surge in romance scams, especially targeting the elderly, with nearly $480 million lost in Japan in 2024 alone.

• Woody’s Sarcastic Musing:

  • “Because they have oxygen depots in space. You just pull up Uber delivers in space for oxygen.” (13:00)

• Cindy’s Lament:

  • “She trusted him deeply … she believed that he was going to use this to buy oxygen to save him.” (12:36)

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4. North Carolina: Fire Kills Four Children (14:27)

• Story Summary (from local news insert):
  • Reagan Noel Powers charged with involuntary manslaughter and child abuse after leaving her four daughters (ages 2, 4, 6, and 7) in care of their 11-year-old sibling, leading to a deadly fire.
  • Posted $400,000 bond within an hour; questions raised by Woody on priorities.
• Woody’s Critique:
  • “If you can afford a $400,000 bond within an hour of being arrested, you can afford a babysitter that's not 11 years old.” (18:25)

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5. Ohio: Cincinnati Mom and Child Murder Case (19:30)

• Story Summary:
  • In December 2020, Descan Brown killed his ex-girlfriend, Nisha Littimore, stabbing her 11 times in the neck, then abducted her 3-year-old son Nilo and pushed the stroller off the Purple People Bridge into the icy Ohio River.
  • Brown attempted to dispose of Nisha’s body, tried to clean the scene, and faked mental illness. He pled guilty to two counts of aggravated murder in September 2025, receiving life without parole.
• Cindy’s Question:
  • “Why are these people stabbing in the neck?” (20:04)
• Woody’s Reflection:
  • “He killed the baby because she had birthed him, but not his baby. Like she miscarried.” (23:28)

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6. California: Chef’s Downfall – The Bank Robber Chef (24:27)

• Story Summary:
  • Valentino Luchin, a once-prominent San Francisco chef known for high-end Italian cuisine, committed three bank robberies in a single day. His criminal history included a 2018 bank heist with a BB gun.
  • Financial ruin after restaurant closures cited as motive.
• Luchin’s 2018 Jailhouse Quote:
  • “I thought it was a good plan, but it was not. My action wasn’t aggressive. It was a fake gun. I don’t even know how to load a real gun.” (27:27)
• Woody’s Dark Humor:
  • “Well, Mr. Luchin, sir, they need chefs in prison, too.” (29:15)

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7. New Jersey: Animal Cruelty & Serial Cat Killer (31:41)

• Story Summary:
  • Edwin Sanabia, 26, accused of luring cats with tuna, then torturing and killing them, dumping their bodies in dumpsters. Also charged with assault and lewd conduct in other incidents.
  • Pattern of cruelty and escalation captured community outrage.
• Woody’s Outrage:
  • “Pretty sure he’s got a screw place in hell.” (36:12)
• Cindy’s Disgust:
  • “…he just tortured them. Beat them to death.” (36:10)

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8. New Jersey: Family Murder and Dismemberment (37:56)

• Story Summary:
  • Everton Thomas, his wife, and son charged after killing Harold Miller Jr., dismembering his body, and disposing of remains—a murder tracked with video surveillance and forensics.
  • Extensive household involvement; family purchased chainsaw, containers, and cleaning supplies together.
• Woody’s Macabre Joke:
  • “I guess it’s a game the whole family can play, right?” (39:52)

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9. New Jersey: Infant Death from Parental Abuse (42:22)

• Story Summary:
  • Reuben Santiago and Caitlin Gibson accused of fatally beating their 3-month-old with force likened to a vehicle collision, then giving authorities implausible excuses.
• Medical Quote:
  • “The blunt force trauma this baby suffered was so immense that in terms of force it was comparable to a significant motor vehicle crash.” (44:54)
• Woody’s Rebuke:
  • “If you cat killing and baby killing and then whatever. Go yourselves, man.” (45:54)

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10. Segment: New Orleans Crime & National Guard Proposal (50:14)

• Story Summary:

  • Woody and Cindy segue into a discussion of crime and safety in New Orleans, reacting to news of a proposed deployment of 1,000 National Guard troops for urban patrols.
  • French Quarter locals claim things feel safer and question the necessity of such a deployment.

• Local Voices:

  • “I feel really safe here. I’ve seen a lot of police presence and they make it known that it’s a safe place to be.” – Michael Parton, tourist (54:29)
  • “I don’t feel it’s necessary. I think we’re in a good space. Crime’s down again. It feels safe.” – Roy Jelm, local (53:41)

• Woody Explains National Guard Role:

  • “National Guard does not have arrest authority … it’s just a presence, just a presence to deter crime.” (55:33)

• Cindy’s Perspective:

  • “It’s hard to say because you don’t want them until something happens. You’re like, oh, if we would have only had them.” (56:54)

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Memorable Quotes & Banter

• “I’m just keeping the hits coming on this Friday. Prayers for those babies. Freaking horrible way to go.” – Woody, after the child death fire (18:25)
• “Chefs in prison, too.” – Woody, after the chef’s criminal spree (29:15)
• “There are so many days I just want to retire from this kind of news.” – Cindy, after a string of tragic stories (46:18)
• “It’s raw and unscripted. So is my nausea.” – Cindy (46:08)

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Segment Timestamps for Key Stories

• Michigan double family murder: 03:18
• Pennsylvania babies found: 07:24
• Japanese romance scam: 10:18
• North Carolina house fire: 14:27
• Cincinnati mom & child murder: 19:30
• Bank robber chef: 24:27
• New Jersey cat killer: 31:41
• Family dismemberment: 37:56
• New Jersey infant death: 42:22
• New Orleans/National Guard: 50:14

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Tone and Dynamic

The overtones remain consistently gritty, direct, and darkly humorous, with Woody’s perspective steeped in law enforcement experience and Cindy injecting empathy, disgust, and occasional exasperation. The couple’s banter breaks up the intensity of the crimes discussed, yet never fails to hammer home the tragic reality and incomprehensible nature of these cases.

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Summary for Non-Listeners

This episode is a hard-hitting, unsparing look at recent and historic true crime from across the country and the world, focusing on the depths of human depravity and the heartbreak left behind. Woody and Cindy guide listeners through these cases with both professional insight and raw emotional response. Listeners come away with a sobering view of today’s criminal landscape—reminded that, to quote Woody, “Evil exists, and this dude is evil.” (36:38)

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[Woody Overton]

Hello everybody and welcome to this episode of true crime. Time for Friday, September 19th, 2025. And I'm Woody Overton.

[Cindy Overton]

I'm Cindy Overton.

[Woody Overton]

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[Cindy Overton]

Which will also be hashtag for Ms. Barbara.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah. Yes. Yeah. And. And rest of that family. So y' all hang in there and continue calling you tips 313RLRCTIP it's working and I can't. I just wish I could tell you Everything that we get every day, but I can't. And so things are still progressing and there's a whole lot of shit flying around burning Paris right now. It is what it is. But what do you have today for us? It's time for family matters.

[Cindy Overton]

I'm gonna start us off in Michigan.

[Woody Overton]

All right.

[Cindy Overton]

On September 1, around 4:15pm In Hazel Park, Michigan, police were called to a home on Bertineau Avenue and there was reports of an unresponsive woman. Inside, they found 41 year old Linda Hill and her 12 year old son, Cardi Jackson. And both had fatal knife wounds. And they were. The knife wounds were. And their throats. So the victims were identified, like I just said, as Cardi and Linda. And Linda's 64 year old uncle, who lived in the basement, reported that he heard loud, loud noises and found her when checking in about 15 to 30 minutes after he heard the loud noises. He wasn't aware of anyone else that was in the home at the time. During the investigation, police reviewed surveillance footage showing a red Lincoln arriving at the house before the killings and leaving afterwards. Investigators also were told that Linda had been on the phone and said she had to go because her brother had just shown up at the house right before she died. She told somebody this a day after the murders. Police identified the suspect as Linda's 43 year old brother, Ladamian Keith Hill from Redford. And multiple family members reported that after police had cleared the scene, he entered the home uninvited, walked in naked and laid down in Linda's bed for about somewhere between five to 15 minutes before leaving.

[Woody Overton]

Okay.

[Cindy Overton]

Law enforcement located him in Pontiac in his red Lincoln and arrested him around 7pm on September 2. They found blood evidence in the car and on the clothing he was actually still wearing. In court on September 5, Ledamian was formally charged with two counts of first degree premeditated murder for the deaths of his sister and nephew. He appeared mute at arraignment and a not guilty plea was entered on his behalf. The judge denied bond and his next court appearance is scheduled for September 16th with a probable cause hearing to follow. So law enforcement have yet to release a motive. But Cardi's older brother, Demontes Hild, called the incident baffling, saying, I don't even know what could make a person do something like this. He said his uncle added that this was an unthinkable act. We got the four whys, but we don't have the fifth why. I don't know really what he means.

[Woody Overton]

By who, what when Where? Why?

[Cindy Overton]

Well, I know what. Who, what? When, where, why? But those aren't why. That's only one why. You know what I mean? Like I understood what you were saying.

[Woody Overton]

No idea. Yeah, no idea. Well, I'm gonna follow you up and double down with this one. It's time for family matters. He ask you a question? If you get evicted from an apartment, I understand leaving some things behind, maybe like furniture and. Or trash that you don't want, stuff like that. But would you leave behind anything that would put you in prison?

[Cindy Overton]

No, I wouldn't keep anything that would put me in prison in my apartment either, but that's.

[Woody Overton]

Let's go to Pennsylvania. All right, this lady, her name is Jessica Moth of Ford City, Pennsylvania. She got evicted from her apartment, and the people that own the apartment sent the cleaning crew out there to clean it up. Right? Get ready to lease out somebody else and all that. But Jessica Moth, who's 39 years old, the one that was evicted, this by WPXI. All the. The. They were cleaning out the property, and Jessica left some stuff behind, and this could be probably the shortest story to make you cry ever. The. They were cleaning out the house, and they found a trash bag in one of the closets, and it was a dead baby. No.

[Cindy Overton]

How do you do that?

[Woody Overton]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I'm just getting started. Just getting started. All right. And so, of course, they call the police, and they search the rest of the home, and they get to the attic, and they found some totes in the attic, I guess, like the plastic totes. You store shit in bins or what we call them. And they found two more dead babies. Can you believe?

[Cindy Overton]

No.

[Woody Overton]

Right?

[Cindy Overton]

No.

[Woody Overton]

So they catch up with a moth or whatever her name is. And you know what? She admitted that she gave birth to all three babies and placed them in the locations where they were found.

[Cindy Overton]

And she just left them there.

[Woody Overton]

Yep. And she has now been charged with criminal homicide because of the three dead babies that were found in the home.

[Cindy Overton]

She used to be charged as a devil.

[Woody Overton]

Let's see what Pennsylvania has on the map. Pennsylvania has a death penalty, but it's in the state of moratorium that's. She's 39 years old, had three children. Yeah, that's it. Just wanted to up your day to get started.

[Cindy Overton]

You did a great job. Thanks so much.

[Woody Overton]

I'll try. I do. I do my best. There you go. True crime time. What you got? It's time for worldwide crime.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay. Well, I guess I'm gonna. I don't know. This Is. This is really crazy. I know I've been saying that word a lot lately, but it just really is. So we're going to Japan and we're going way back to the month of July of this year. And we have a 80 year old woman from Hokkaido, or Hokkaido. And she had been interacting with someone that she believed to be.

[Woody Overton]

Santa Claus.

[Cindy Overton]

It's almost as good as Santa Claus.

[Woody Overton]

Jesus.

[Cindy Overton]

Almost God. Getting pretty, pretty much in their realm, but not that high up.

[Woody Overton]

The devil.

[Cindy Overton]

An astronaut.

[Woody Overton]

Oh, Lord.

[Cindy Overton]

So almost up to, you know, the heavens, but. And they've been communicating via a social media app. Over the course of several weeks, they exchanged messages that gradually built emotional rapport. And the scammer, the astronaut, was crafting a romantic connection with the 80 year old. He shared fabricated photos, hinted at being a space agency employee, and talked about returning to Earth. Wait, he wanted to return to Earth so they could deepen their bond. He's such a really good guy.

[Woody Overton]

You want to eat some sushi? I thought they got sushi in space.

[Cindy Overton]

I was thinking her sushi.

[Woody Overton]

Her sushi. Oh, you see? Get your mind out of the gutter. I was just talking about dead babies and you talking about sex.

[Cindy Overton]

Oh my God. As the. As the relationship developed, the scammer wove an urgent emotional appeal. He said he was in space on the spaceship right now, and he was under attack.

[Woody Overton]

Oh, Lord.

[Cindy Overton]

And he was running out of oxygen. And he told her the only way that he could be saved was through money.

[Woody Overton]

Send me 1999 in my PayPal account.

[Cindy Overton]

And she trusted him. This is so sad. She trusted him deeply. So she. I don't know what this transfer. Well, it's going to tell us. She transferred 1 million yen, which is equivalent to roughly around US$6,700 from her savings. And she believed that he was going to use this to buy oxygen to save him.

[Woody Overton]

Because they have oxygen depos. Space. Yeah. You just pull up Uber delivers in space for oxygen. Yeah.

[Cindy Overton]

Soon after sending the money, the woman realized that she had been deceived. Local complete. Local police confirmed it was a romance scam, an emotionally manipulative fraud targeting elderly individuals with fabricated relationships. Authorities noted the scam played on her emotionally vulnerable loneliness and kindness. Police released a warning following the incident and it says if someone you met on social media demands cash because the.

[Woody Overton]

Aliens are sucking up their oxygen.

[Cindy Overton]

He was in battle. Right? He was in attack. But be suspicious of a possible scam urging especially older users to report such behavior. Romance scams are on the rise in Japan. In just the first 11 months of 2024 alone, authorities received over 3,300 reports with total losses exceeding 34.6 billion yen, which is equivalent to $480 million. Wow, that's a lot.

[Woody Overton]

It's a lot of money. That's what, that's what. The scams are still working. So let's just one, it's time for family matters. Believe it or not, Leah Marie found this on our local news channel wfb, but it's is actually from Columbus. Columbus County, North Carolina begins now with breaking news.

[Daniela Hanke]

Good evening and thanks so much for joining us tonight. I'm Daniela Hanke.

[Woody Overton]

I'm John Evans. That breaking news is out of Columbus county at this hour where investigators have made an arrest for a deadly fire that killed four small children.

[Daniela Hanke]

The mother of the four girls, Reagan Noel Powers, and is now charged with involuntary manslaughter and negligent child abuse. WCT's Delaney Tarpley is joining us tonight with details on Powers arrest. What do those warrants say, Delaney? Daniela, records show that Powers was booked into the Columbus county jail just before 3:00 clock this afternoon. She's charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter and four felony counts of child abuse resulting in serious bodily injury or death. Warren say the 28 year old left her four children alone in her home on North Colony Road, just north of Chadburn. They were left in the custody of an 11 year old. The four girls, ages 2, 4, 6 and 7, died when a fire started at the home early in the morning of August 30th. Fire crews responded to the scene around 2:30 but could not save Kalani, Kendall, Josie and Sophia. Just yesterday, authorities released an update on the search for a cause for that fire saying they could not figure out where or how it started. It will remain classified as undetermined, but investigators went on to say they do not believe it was set intentionally. According to arrest records, Reagan Powers was held under a $400,000 secured bond. But she posted bond and was released about an hour after being booked. She is expected to appear in court tomorrow afternoon at 3 o'.

[Woody Overton]

Clock.

[Daniela Hanke]

Delaney, thanks for that report and update tonight.

[Woody Overton]

Y' all can, you know, see if you can see Cindy? She's got her eyes closed.

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[Woody Overton]

I'm just keeping the hits coming on this Friday. Prayers for those babies. Freaking horrible way to go. And I don't know if you getting forward a $400,000 bond within an hour of being arrested. You can afford a babysitter that's not 11 years old.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

Your own daughters, doctors. Yeah, all of them burn to death. Yep. There you go. So what do you have? I know you don't want to play anymore.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, I did. Yeah. I'm going to Cincinnati, Ohio.

[Woody Overton]

Cincinnati. Let's have some good chili there. Seriously, Joe Burrow's out for a while. He's got turf tech.

[Cindy Overton]

I'm sorry? Yeah, turf tech.

[Woody Overton]

Turf toe.

[Cindy Overton]

Turf toe. I heard he hurt. I heard he hurt his toe. Well, didn't he hurt his toe last year?

[Woody Overton]

I don't know.

[Cindy Overton]

I think this is an ongoing thing.

[Woody Overton]

I don't know.

[Cindy Overton]

So we're going to Cincinnati, Ohio. And in the early hours of December 5th of 2020, 25 year old Descan Brown fatally stabbed his ex girlfriend Nisha Littimore in her apartment in the Walnut Hills neighborhood. And at the time, Natisha had allowed Brown, her former boyfriend, to stay in the apartment. And prosecutors later revealed she was stabbed 11 times in the neck. Why are these people stabbing in the.

[Woody Overton]

Neck, I guess it's close to point to their arm.

[Cindy Overton]

The next morning, Brown told Natisha's three year old son, Nilo, who was still alive. I'm sorry. He took Natisha's three year old son Nilo, who was still alive, to the Purple People Bridge, which is a pedestrian bridge that spans the Ohio River. He pushed Nilo, including the stroller that Nilo was in, off the bridge into the icy waters below. This is December. I mean, pushing him off any bridge at any time is horrific in and of itself. But despite search efforts, Nilo's body was never recovered. But the stroller was later found underwater. Brown didn't stop there. On December 11, he placed Nytisha's body in a bag he'd purchased on ebay. He then took an Uber to the Purple People Bridge and attempted to dump her remains in the river. And he lied to the Uber driver about what was in the bag.

[Woody Overton]

Oh, my God. What? Dumbass.

[Cindy Overton]

The bag got caught on the ledge which prevented it from going into the water, and the remains were discovered soon after. Meanwhile, after killing Natisha, like we, obviously there was the time frame from the 5th to the 11th. He kept her body in her apartment. And the apartment had been heavily blood stained so much that the blood seeped down into the unit below. Brown also looked up information on how to clean blood and made efforts to clean up the crime scene. But when your blood's going, how you gonna clean that up? The motive uncovered during investigation was that Brown blamed Nytisha for a miscarriage. And a woman interviewed by prosecutors claimed that Brown had discussed killing Nytisha and Nilo as retaliation for that perceived offense. Brown was arrested and brought to trial. And so now in 2025, apparently he had some claim of not being all there, but he was found competent to stand trial after it was determined he had been faking symptoms of mental illness. Under a plea agreement finalized on September 10, he pled guilty to two counts of aggravated murder. And the plea removed the possibility of the death penalty, sparing Nytisha's family what would have been years of appeals. And the judge sentenced Brown to life in prison without the possibility of parole.

[Woody Overton]

Where he should be, at least. What? Where was that?

[Cindy Overton]

Ohio.

[Woody Overton]

Oh, that's right. Cincinnati. Ohio has a moratorium, y'. All. So I don't believe he deserves that.

[Cindy Overton]

He killed the baby because she had birthed him, but not his baby. Like she miscarried.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, is what it is. The do this one is kind of this, but maybe not. It's time for family matters. I'll tell you about an article in the dailymail.com and you know, chef is a pretty prestigious position. Yeah, especially if you're famous. Right. They make a lot of money. Especially they put their names on restaurants and stuff like that. Yeah, well, they had this famous chef in from San Francisco in the Bay Area, and he was known for his refined Italian cuisine and high profile restaurants.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay.

[Woody Overton]

Well, now in one day he did three things that I'm pretty sure he's not going to be working the restaurant business anymore.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay.

[Woody Overton]

Yes.

[Cindy Overton]

Shouted out a client, he harmed a worker, a co worker with a knife. And he served bad food, like poisonous food.

[Woody Overton]

Like no, no and no.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay.

[Woody Overton]

So he. Valentino Luchin, his 62, is a former executive chef at the famed north beach restaurant Rose Pistola and owner of the now defunct Otavaya in Walnut Creek. He was arrested by the San Francisco police after a what they're calling a chaotic one day robbery spree.

[Cindy Overton]

Oh, right.

[Woody Overton]

Police say Luton struck three banks last Wednesday, one after the other in the city Central Central district. Passing handwritten notes to the frightened tellers which demanded cash. Witnesses of one of the targeted banks located along the 1100 block of Grant Avenue near Chinatown, told police the suspect handed teller a note that simply demanded money out of fear. The teller complied, handing over a bag of dollars before the suspect fled. Well, within hours, because the cops are out investigating. All right. They had two additional bank robberies all in the Central district, which include north beach and Russian Hill and Union Square. And they link Luch into these also. So they said. With the help of community tips and the San Francisco Police Department ambassadors, authorities identified Luchin, who lives in the neighborhood. Didn't have to go far, right?

[Cindy Overton]

Wow.

[Woody Overton]

He was booked in the San Francisco County Jail on multiple counts of robbery and attempted robbery. Remains in custody as he awaits formal charges. But they said this is not Lucha's first brush with the law or indeed a bank robbery. In 2018, he was arrested in Ornita on suspicion of robbing a Citibank where he walked out with 18,000 in cash. Spalin's footage showed a man in black sunglasses, white gloves and a hoodie, a waving around a semiautomatic BB gun while demanding large bills. At least this other girl gave him $1 bills. He was arrested the same day at his home and authorities recovered the cash and the BB gun. In a jailhouse interview at the time, Luchin offered a mix of remorse and rationale. He said, I thought it was a good plan, but it was not. My action wasn't aggressive. It was a fake gun. I don't even know how to load a real gun. Well, he even claimed to written an apology letter to the bank teller. He threatened.

[Cindy Overton]

Oh, so sweet, right?

[Woody Overton]

What a great guy. Luchin, who immigrated to the United States from Italy in 1993, earned praise and his early work for the at Rose Pastola and Which was once recognized as a cornerstone of the San Francisco's Italian dining scene.

[Cindy Overton]

Hmm.

[Woody Overton]

And they got all kinds of pictures of him as a chef. He. He later launched Sativia in Walnut Creek with his wife. But after six years, the restaurant shuttered in 2016, leaving the couple in one outlet described as dire financial straits. Bankruptcy filings show the couple defaulted on a Chapter 13 repayment plan, and at the time, they owed over $110,000 while reporting assets totaling just 27 grand. In a 2018 jailhouse interview, Leacham blamed his decision to rob the bank on a spiral desperation financial ruin. Following the restaurant's collapse, he said, desperation leads you to do things you never thought you were capable of. Well, Mr. Luchin, sir, they need chefs in prison, too.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah, he'll make a good prison chef.

[Woody Overton]

Cook, trustee. I don't know how much Italian food I think they. I think they used to serve spaghetti like, once a week. It was more like just red sauce on noodles.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah, I mean, it's like, probably tomato sauce with, like.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, not even, like.

[Cindy Overton]

Like, onions and heavy, like, garlic.

[Woody Overton]

They're not trying to get fancy on them, I can tell you about that. Yeah, that reminds me.

[Cindy Overton]

I want to make this one day. It was my. One of my favorite after school snacks when I was, you know, I was a latchkey kid. So my friend Laurel.

[Woody Overton]

What's that even mean?

[Cindy Overton]

A latchkey is, like, where you literally had to, like, have a key around, like, kids that had to have keys to get into to their home. Like, there was no parent there for them. We were called latchkey kids.

[Woody Overton]

Never heard of that.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, you weren't a latchkey kid.

[Woody Overton]

That's true. We never locked her door.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah, I lived in Baton Rouge, and so we did lock our door. I mean, I don't think we needed to at that time in Goodwood, but anyway, I would get a bagel, tomato paste from, you know, the tomato paste, little cans. Spread that on the bagel and get the shaker of parmesan cheese and stick that in the toaster oven. And that was my after school snack. And I thought it was the most amazing thing in this world. I was making pizza. I would love to make it today. And see how horrible it actually tastes. I didn't put a seasoning on it. And that tomato paste has nothing. Like there's.

[Woody Overton]

You know, that's funny.

[Cindy Overton]

I know.

[Woody Overton]

Well, since you're on food still and you're talking about it, what do you think about tuna?

[Cindy Overton]

Like what kind of. I love tuna.

[Woody Overton]

Right. I love tuna too. Fresh caught tuna and. And stuff like that. I used to eat tuna fish out of the can. Sometimes my mama still eats it out of the can. And so let's just do a. It's time for beast mode. We're going to New Jersey. This is going to piss people off so bad. They had a guy named Edwin San Abia and he liked tuna fish.

[Cindy Overton]

Like out of the can.

[Woody Overton]

Yep.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay.

[Woody Overton]

And evidently he thought cats would like it too.

[Cindy Overton]

Oh, no, he's 20.

[Woody Overton]

So I'm not laughing because this is up in the documentary don't with cats. But the 26 year old New Jersey man, Evelyn Sanabilla is accused of luring cats with tuna fish cans and brutally torturing and killing them in Atlantic City. He would then dispose of their bodies in a dumpster.

[Cindy Overton]

No, it's better than the woman peeping on her babies in a tote.

[Woody Overton]

What?

[Cindy Overton]

Well, I mean, either way, I'm just being so.

[Woody Overton]

The Atlantic County Prosecutor's office says Sanabilla was charged with 13 counts of animal cruelty. And they recite in citizen sources as well as the Atlantic City Police Department. Prosecutors say that Sanibia lured the abandoned and stray cats into his residence by using food after the cats were drawn into the residence with the food, including tuna fish cans. That's according to the New York Post. Sanabilla would then beat, torture and kill the cats in a savage and inhumane manner. Then he replaced them in the dumpster located near his residence. So Santa Bia faces charges of animal cruelty after. Oh, also in addition to the killing the cats, he faces charged the animal cruelty after he allegedly punched, hit and dragged cats by their tails. He is also, because he doesn't stop there, accused of using sticks to beat cats hiding in a makeshift shelter located on a neighbor's property. I mean, this is crazy. The Atlantic County Prosecutor's office thanks the efforts of Atlantic City Police Department as well as those citizens who reported the fences. And they say we encourage our residents to report animal abuse and neglect to their local police departments. Well, Mr. San Bea, not his first radio. And according to Atlantic City police department, the 26 year old threatened a neighbor back on June 17th. And they say that Edwin Sanibia had used a Knife to threaten a teenager. Additionally, police accused Sanibia of making lewd comments at the teen, exposing his genitals and chasing him.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay, he needs to go jail. Stay there.

[Woody Overton]

Well, they. They went to him. They went to his house and he refused contact. So what do they do? They call his arm with a knife.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

And balls. The is hairy bubblegum. And after failed attempts to contact San be his residence, the SWAT team entered the residence but he wasn't home. A day later, however, neighbors called on his ass and said he back.

[Cindy Overton]

He's back.

[Woody Overton]

Then Santa B was taken into custody without incident. He was charged with aggravated assault for the knife and his balls and unlawful possession of a weapon, possession of weapon for unlawful purpose and lewdness. So as of this. When I'm telling you this, the he's initially charged in animal cruelty case back in July. His case was turned over to a grand jury which ultimately indicted him on Tuesday, September 9th. Mrs. San Bea Don't. With cats.

[Cindy Overton]

No.

[Woody Overton]

I mean is it like entertainment?

[Cindy Overton]

That's what it seems.

[Woody Overton]

You don't have. You don't have Internet so you can just see. I. It's like me going dove hunting or deer hunting or something.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah. Just waiting for them.

[Woody Overton]

Waiting for him to come in.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah. Except they're not eating.

[Woody Overton]

Eat the cats.

[Cindy Overton]

No.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah.

[Cindy Overton]

He just tortured them. Beat them to death.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah. Pretty sure he's got a screw place in hell.

[Cindy Overton]

Yes. And he does.

[Woody Overton]

But I hope that definitely a special place in hell.

[Cindy Overton]

Hopefully he doesn't plead like crazy.

[Woody Overton]

I don't know what he's gonna bleed. He's got issues. He. He's whipping out nas and hair bubblegum and literally baiting cats into his home.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

Torture them.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

So that's. I mean that's. That. That's how the world turns. Evil exists and this dude is evil to that kid and cats. Right.

[Cindy Overton]

Yep.

[Woody Overton]

So I don't know that it's kind of crazy, but it is what it is. So that we were in Jersey so just keeping in the line of the day. Let's stay in Jersey. Foreign family matters. No. If I was going to go out and kill someone, I wouldn't bring you and W along with me. All right. Going to Camden. All right. The. And a New Jersey Father who's 41 year old. Everett. I'm sorry, Everton. Kind of like Overton. Everett Everton Thomas. He is accused of killing a man alongside his wife and son and dismembering and disposing of his body. And guess what? All three of them are facing charges.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

Right.

[Cindy Overton]

As they should.

[Woody Overton]

So the Accords are released. Issued by the Camden County Prosecutor's office of New Jersey. 48 year old Harold Miller Jr. Was reported missing on June 14th. Now the Deptford Township Police Department found out that Miller had been playing cards with friends in Camden. On June 12, his vehicle was found in Punissaukan. So authorities got hold of the video surveillance footage and cell phone data that showed Miller arriving at a Baird Boulevard residence in Camden around 11:30am on June 12. Video footage captured the sound of what appeared to be a single gunshot. Miller was never seen ex in the residence again. I mean camera doesn't stop running. How you do that and not look around and see if somebody has a camera. But whatever. Miller's never seen Exon residents again. However, another man who is identified as Thomas was shown leaving the residence and moving Miller's vehicle to Pennosauken. Now detectives learned that Thomas's wife and son, 41 year old Cherie Parker and 22 year old DeShawn Thomas bought a chainsaw, containers, trash bags and clean supplies. I guess it's a game the whole family can play, right? So Patch.com reported that a witness told police that they heard the gunshot. The noise was then followed by loud music and extensive cleaning in the residence basement. The witness also told authorities that they smelled an odor resembling that of a decomposing body. Another witness who lives at the Thomas residence told police that Everton woke up desean and asked him to help chop up Miller's body. Video footage showed Everton and Sean Thomas making multiple trips to the Tamarack Apartments dumpster. They loaded up containers and trash bags into the vehicle. All three members of Thomas family are accused of dismembering Miller's body and disposing of his remains in an attempt to cover up Everton's murder. That is what happened to Plan Twister or Monopoly. On June 20, detective searched the Thomas residence and found suspected blood stains inside. Thomas was also found in possession of a loaded firearm. A day later, Everton Thomas, he ran like a little bitch to Canada and he was not charged at the time, you know. Yeah, when he ran like a. So forensic testing revealed he left without his people. Forensic testing revealed that Miller's DNA matched the blood stains found inside the residence. Cherie Parker and Deshawn Thompson were arrested on September 8th. They were charged with second degree desecration of human remains and fourth degree tampering with physical evidence. Everton Thomas was arrested on September 8 while attempting to cross the border back into the United States. I guess he ran out of money. He's charged with first degree murder, second degree desecration human remains and fourth degree tampering with physical evidence. And they are just rolling it out in New Jersey. Right. So I mean I'm not throwing a show shade on Jersey today, but you got another I just can't stop it in Jersey is lining up foreign family matters. Nothing like end of the week with making you friends.

[Cindy Overton]

Geez Louise.

[Woody Overton]

Woody A New Jersey couple has been charged with murder following the brutal death of their three month old daughter. Right. This is really gonna get you. Reuben Santiago and Caitlin Gibson, age 36 and 28, beat the infant girl to death with a force comparable to a vehicle crash. This is according to the autopsy in the medical examiner. Now the Ocean county prosecutor's office did a release and they said the Incident occurred on May 5, 2025 at around 7:20pm and Lakewood Township Police Department officers responded to a Pinehurst Drive residence. They have received a report of a three month old not breathing upon arrival. The respondent first responders found the infant girl unresponsive. Shortly later, EMS services arrived seen and they do what they do. They tried to administer medical attention to the baby. She was transported to the local hospital and then to a pediatric intensive care unit on May 6. The three month old was pronounced deceased a day later. The post mortem examination was performed on the baby's body and was determined that her cause of death was blunt force trauma with the baby suffering from a skull fracture and subdural hematoma and her manner of death was ruled a homicide. Well, New York Post reported, citing the prosecutors, that Santiago and Gibson told police the baby had begun vomiting and having diarrhea on May 3rd. The infant was taken to a local hospital on May 4th, but was discharged later in the day. Santiago then told authorities that he had found the baby unresponsive after changing her diaper on May 5. But allegedly Santiago first told officers that he had dropped a bottle on his daughter's head.

[Cindy Overton]

I know that's the stupidest thing then.

[Woody Overton]

However, he claimed the girl slipped from his hands as he was removing her from her bouncer, hitting her head as a result. But the medical examiner shared the disturbing revelation. He said the blunt force trauma this baby suffered was so immense that in terms of force it was comparable to a significant motor vehicle crash. And this is an affidavit authorities terminate Ruben Santiago and Caitlin Gibson were responsible for their daughter's death and both of them were taken in custody and they were charged with murder. They remain in jail and will be held until the trial which has yet to. To be scheduled. We love you lifers in New Jersey. You good ones. If you cat killing and baby killing and then whatever. Go yourselves, man.

[Cindy Overton]

Killing and dismembering.

[Woody Overton]

Oh, yes. That was there, too, huh? Yeah. It was a Jersey day, so you never know what you're going to get. Even when we have the stories, it's raw and unscripted.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah. So is my nausea.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah.

[Cindy Overton]

Headache.

[Woody Overton]

And it's true crime.

[Cindy Overton]

I'm going back to bed.

[Woody Overton]

You should retire.

[Cindy Overton]

I should retire?

[Woody Overton]

Yeah. Because you can't handle it.

[Cindy Overton]

So I saw last night there's a show called Love Thy Nadir, and there's a family. I didn't know any. I just kept seeing advertisements for the show, Loveline, Nader. And Sophie was like, you need to watch it. And it's these four sisters that are living in New Orleans. I mean, living in New York. They're from Baton Rouge. And one of the sisters has been working. She's like 26 maybe, and she's been working on Wall street for five or so years. And she's going to do a micro retirement.

[Woody Overton]

What does that mean?

[Cindy Overton]

That's exactly what her father said. Her father's name is Bro B R E A U X. Nader. Again, they're from Baton Rouge. The mother is Holland. But anyway, she is retiring from, like, just taking a break from her real job to dabble into, like, social media stuff. But anyway, when you said I needed to retire, I'm going to do a micro retirement. I'll micro retire until we record on Sunday.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, I want you to do that. Let me know how it works out for you. Retirement just means you work harder than ever.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, that's for sure. Technically, I am retired.

[Woody Overton]

We're not behind the microphone. We're still working. I can promise you that. So. But we are going to make a trip to New Orleans. I can't wait this weekend. We like to get away for a moment when we can. And I just. I didn't know about this. And this is not political, y'. All. I want to play this article and then we'll close out. See, I've been going to New Orleans since I was a baby boy. My mama. I remember my mama brought me for the first time. And my mom and daddy love, you know, and all the history and, like, when Governor Edwards went in his first. I think he went in three or four times, but his first time, my daddy had been a governor, Evan Edwards, not the recent one. My daddy had been one of his biggest supporters in the Hotel Montelion. Which has. Is world famous for having the rotating bar that you sit in. We need to go there so we can have a drink in the. They got, you know, be in a private room for election party and Fats Domino, who's the Louisiana legend, y' all is deceased now. And for a private concert with like 50 people, it's just everything. My entire life has always been yours. New Orleans. I bring people from all over the United States. New Orleans. And take them to all the hole in the wall places, all the non tourist traps and everything else and just like to go down there and walk the shops, the antique shops and the. The galleries and Roll street. You know, walk around Jackson Square and you know, do the. Go to the people watch. Yeah, yeah. But listen, you know that's a lot of crime in yours. There's no doubt about it. Not to the level like Chicago and. But the. I mean it's crime. But there's crime everywhere in the. In New Orleans, it used to really be bad before Katrina, you could walk literally two blocks in any direction, hit a housing project. I'm talking about like hardcore housing projects which they tore down after Katrina and replaced with whatever they got now. But they had housing authority back then. I don't think I ever told this. And they wouldn't send the cops in unless they sent them in two at a time. But I mean it was fucking bad. Yeah, the. But you've got to know where to go and know how to handle yourself. What's. What's my one major rule about your ones?

[Cindy Overton]

I mean there's many but the one major one is the comfy shoes.

[Woody Overton]

You have got to have comfortable shoes.

[Cindy Overton]

Because we beating feet and they have to be proven comfy shoes. You can't just say I got a new pair of tennis shoes.

[Woody Overton]

You did that one time and still got blisters on your feet. Nothing upsets Woody more than when I'm ready to roll and put in about five or six miles and a quarter than having somebody say I can't go any more. My feet got blisters on them. Yeah, it wasn't accepted numerous times in my life. But anyway, so the. You know a lot of crime and I know when Landry, the new governor for Louisiana started new state troop y' all troop, it's like a headquarters. But I say I was at state police headquarters in Baton Rouge then they had the troops all around the state so the troopers that live in the area can police their areas and all that stuff. Well, they the only troop in New Orleans actually wasn't In New Orleans. It was in Kenner. And now they have. Landry has put one in downtown in the French Court.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

To help with policing. But. And. Oh, Lord. You know, Louisiana. The one thing Louisiana doesn't really put up with is the homelessness. And, I mean, they got them and they used to have the. The. When you go down towards the super down. If you. If you go straight, like, you're going across Miss River Bridge, you take left, like going towards Slidell, and you get off that. I think it's poisonous. The first exit that. Then that's where the homeless and canvas were. They. They wiped them out.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

Landry, I'm not saying this one way or another. I'm just saying they're not there anymore. The. Because we told stories about homeless people helping us when we were broke down in the middle of the interstate. So. But you know what? I think they might be trying to. Really. My tourism is still good in yours, but the. I don't know what they're trying to do with this, but let me see if I can get this article to play. And I have not even read it yet, but I used to be in the National Guard, so listen to this.

[Lloyd Lockett]

It's safer. It's safer. I mean, it was like that one big incident, but, I mean, the barricades ago, and we definitely don't need the National Guard.

[Washington Post Reporter]

The Washington Post says a newly drafted proposal would bring a thousand Louisiana National Guard members into urban areas across the state, including New Orleans. We went to the French Quarter today to talk to locals and tourists alike about this proposed move.

[Lloyd Lockett]

I stay out here till a little after dark, and I'm fine.

[Washington Post Reporter]

French Quarter artist Lloyd Lockett sells his work right next to Jackson Square. Lockett says he's been here for three years, but is a lifelong New Orleanian when it comes to his safety.

[Lloyd Lockett]

Well, my safety is first, but pretty much, I think what we have, our regular NOPD and state police have done a good job.

[Washington Post Reporter]

Lockett says since the New Year's Day terror attack, he's seen law enforcement step up.

[Lloyd Lockett]

Yes, it's safer. It's safer. I mean, it was like that one big incident, but, I mean, the barricades can go and we definitely don't need the National Guard.

[Washington Post Reporter]

The Washington Post reports the Pentagon has a draft plan to deploy 1,000 National Guard troops to New Orleans and other urban areas, but only if Governor Jeff Landry requests it. The documents call for the mission to run through September of next year with clear rules and protocols to, quote, ensure transparency and public trust.

[Lloyd Lockett]

I Don't feel it's necessary.

[Woody Overton]

I think we're in a good space. Crime's down again. It feels safe.

[Cindy Overton]

I find that a waste of resources, of manpower and money.

[Washington Post Reporter]

Locals Roy Jelm and Kelly Dorgan say they've seen a big improvement.

[Woody Overton]

Very safe. Yeah, everything feels great.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Washington Post Reporter]

Born and raised in New Orleans.

[Woody Overton]

Knock on wood.

[Cindy Overton]

You know, you see the presence.

[Kristen Bell / Commercial Announcer]

People are very happy, everything's going well.

[Cindy Overton]

We come down here day and night, so, you know, no problems.

[Washington Post Reporter]

Earlier this month, Governor Landry Reception responded to the President's initial idea of sending troops, saying, quote, we'll take President Trump's help from New Orleans to Shreveport. The Metropolitan Crime Commission says crime is down this year in New Orleans with homicides down 13% and non fatal shootings down 14% compared to last year.

[Lloyd Lockett]

I feel really safe here. I've seen a lot of police presence and they make it known that it's a safe place to be. So I don't have any concerns about being here.

[Washington Post Reporter]

San Francisco 49ers fan Michael Parton is visiting for the big game against the Saints.

[Lloyd Lockett]

I don't, I don't feel that necessity at the moment. I really don't. Like I said, I feel comfortable. I feel like the state of Louisiana has done a good job of maybe increasing police presence and I feel comfortable here. I really do.

[Washington Post Reporter]

As people who frequent the French Quarter, what would y' all like to see?

[Woody Overton]

I think they're doing it. It's clean. ID seems to be doing great. The remodeling happened, making it look.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah, everything's progressing. As you can see, there is some construction going on, but we do really.

[Daniela Hanke]

Like what IV waste has done with the border.

[Washington Post Reporter]

That's, that's key.

[Lloyd Lockett]

The construction being done at night and not during the daytime like other cities would do. You know, it slows down the traffic and everything.

[Washington Post Reporter]

The report suggests this proposed National Guard deployment would be larger in scope than the President's recent one in Washington D.C. and so far, the governor's office has not commented on this report. This evening we are hearing from.

[Woody Overton]

I'm gonna turn off of that. The, the thing is, how did I forget about New Year's Eve? But the. And we've been there probably many times, six times since then and walked right past that spot and everything else. But the people don't realize is National Guard does not have arrest authority. It's apostas commidius act, or whatever it's called. I can't remember the exact term, but the to be doing is just a presence, just A presence to deter crowd. I mean, they can call it into the local cops, they can come arrest them, or the state police, but. Interesting. Interesting. Dude, I think I don't really agree with that one either. I mean, when we were down there the weekend, the super bowl, we didn't stay for Super Bowl. Y' all were down there, like, two days before. I've never seen such military presence. No, I mean, it was unbelievable. Like tanks and.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

On the street and. But a thousand. A thousand Louisiana National Guards in the quarter. I mean, I don't guess it would hurt anything, but I don't. I, I don't. I don't know.

[Cindy Overton]

I, I. It's hard. It's hard to say because you don't want them until something happens. You're like, oh, if we would have only had them.

[Woody Overton]

You know, I'm sitting there. What. What the. All these times. All these years. 56 years. Almost 56 years old. Been going down there probably 50 years and knock on wood. Never really had any major incidents.

[Cindy Overton]

But like you said, it's not like the National Guard's gonna be. Can do anything.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah.

[Cindy Overton]

You know, and.

[Woody Overton]

Well, they. They can be a visual deterrent, I guess. I don't know.

[Lloyd Lockett]

That's not.

[Woody Overton]

You know what? That's why I'm not a politician.

[Cindy Overton]

Let's just put cameras up. They got cameras.

[Woody Overton]

Cameras don't stop anything either.

[Cindy Overton]

Exactly. But at least it's not huge. Like a huge. Like the woman says, I haven't even.

[Woody Overton]

Told about double shooting in the French Quarter. And the one kid from Lafayette ended up murdered. And the happy. Everything was on camera. You can't tell whose bullet hit who and. And all that.

[Cindy Overton]

I know.

[Woody Overton]

So anyway, love, and you got anything else, we'll let y' all know on Monday. How safe we were in years.

[Cindy Overton]

I won't be knocking on wood now.

[Woody Overton]

I already did that.

[Cindy Overton]

I know. I gotta knock on you again.

[Woody Overton]

Well, you could do that all day. Do you have anything else?

[Cindy Overton]

No.

[Woody Overton]

All right. I'm Woody Overton.

[Cindy Overton]

Cindy Overton.

[Woody Overton]

We'll holler at y' all later. Peace.

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