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True Crime Time For September 2, 2025 | Hot Car Horror, Crane Hijacking & Ralph Menzies’ Execution
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Foreign hello, everybody, and welcome to episode of True Crime. Time for Tuesday, September 2, 2025. And I. I'm Woody Overton.
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I'm Cindy Overton.
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I hope everybody had a great Labor Day.
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Right?
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Right. Tigers won this weekend. Big game. A lot of football. Do what? Talk about that. A lot of good stuff. And summer is officially over. Right. Labor Day, Is it? Right? I mean, yeah, it's Labor Day. Labor Day. Because I said Memorial Day.
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C
No more wearing white.
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Yeah. I don't believe in all that, but I know it's football season and dove season opens next weekend.
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C
Yes.
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And they can barely stand it. Honey, you're so excited.
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I am.
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At least it's a little bit cooler. It's not as humid outside. We'll get done with this change. Get done with this. I'm gonna cut the grass. If you hear any extra noises in the studio, we have two guests. Their names are Rock and Snow, and they're my mama's babies, and she's on a trip out of town, and they get treated like human beings. So they're inside the outer part of the city. So if y' all hear them jumping, making noise, moving around, barking, doing whatever, that's. That's our, I guess, step grandbabies or brothers and sisters.
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I think they're your brothers and sisters.
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Yeah. So anyway, that's that hashtag just for Bradley. Hashtag just for ao. The Labor Day week is the worst week of the year to drop podcasts, except for Thanksgiving and Christmas, and that's just a fact. So we are going to be back full force on it this week. I've been on. Been on it regardless, but just didn't drop an episode last week. Everybody's out of town and beaches and football games and all that stuff and the cases and the tips. Thank you so much for continuing to call them in and look a ton of stuff and. And just a ton of stuff. And it's all good. Keep doing it. Three one, three RLRC tip. And working it. And of course that applies also for hashtag justice for Barbara Blunt and still believe hashtag just for Haley is coming. So that being said, we're in the last September, October, November, December, four months of the year.
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Yes.
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So. So we are going to get down to it without further ado. How about that?
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Okay.
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Bring on some true crime time. Mama.
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I got. I just don't wanna. I can't wait for the cool weather to come because I'm tired of these stories. So tired of these stories. It's so sad.
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It's time matters.
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We're going to Frisco, Texas.
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Been there.
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August 16th. There was approximately 95 degree weather there, sunshine. 95 degrees. And there was a 27 year old mother named Vanessa Esquivel and she left her 15 month old child inside of her vehicle. And she knew that the vehicle was lacking air conditioning. Functioning air conditioning. And so investigators say that she intentionally left the toddler in the car for over two hours while she went to work. So local authorities were alerted when the child was found deceased and 911 was called. Frisco police arrived to the scene and they were able to get surveillance footage. And through investigative findings and the surveillance footage, they determined that her Esquivel's conduct met the statutory requirement for murder, meaning police believed the death was not obviously accidental. So Esquivel was arrested on August 20th by the Dallas Police Department and she was booked into Collin County Jail on first degree murder charges. And she remains in custody on Bond set at 250,000. And of course, if she's convicted, she faces five years to life in prison and up to a $10,000 fine. It's crazy, it's sad.
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I mean, Frisco, Texas isn't about Dallas and just roasting and it's so humid up there too. It's just horrible, horrible, horrible. Actually mom's up in that area now. Horrible, horrible thing. Right. I don't know the. Well, okay, I'm, I'mma back it up with another one. It's time for family matters. So let's go out to West Virginia and they had a 34 year old dad and of course being a dad, he had a kid. Right. And it's an eight year old son. And you know, like our kids came this weekend and I say kids are all grown ups now and they bring their children, which is their dogs. I think at one time we had like six dogs here including. We still got rocket snow out there.
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Yeah.
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And the. So you know, if you want to leave somewhere, like mama went where she got, she went and have to take care of her babies. Right, right. Well, as a parent, we did the same thing. You leave, you got to make sure your kid's taken care of. Yeah. Well, this 34 year old father, he's got an eight year old son. He went on a trip to Florida. He failed to make arrangements for his 8 year old son in West Virginia.
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Okay.
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He left him alone and unsupervised in his garage without food, water or a bathroom for an entire week while he cruised on down to Florida.
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I got goosebumps because that is just chilling.
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That is disgusting crazy, said Juan Jose Benitez Shoshone, also known as Jose Juan Benitez Shoshone, was taken into custody on Monday and charged with one count of gross neglect of a child creating a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury. And this according to court records. A deputy with the Harrison County Sheriff's Office responded to the Benitez home on August 15 after receiving the tip that the boy had been living alone in the garage in the Clarksburg, West Virginia. Pretty sure I went through there. So. Local NBC affiliate W Boy reported all this. And it said upon arriving at the address, the deputy said he located the boy inside a small garage on the properties. And they said the child had been without access to food, water, bathroom, medical assistance or adult supervision while he was locked in the garage. So when speaking with the victim, the cops said they learned that his father, Benita Sashon, had left him there while he was out of state. So when we spoke with the child and through the investigation, it was determined that he was alone for approximately one week while his father was in Florida with no return date. It's just crazy. The deputy wrote all this in his report. So. And it's probable cause affidavit for the arrest form for asshole dad or asshole father because anybody could be a father, they said. While the boy was left unattended, investigators said others from the neighborhood did provide him with a limited amount of help. The child did have assistance from neighbors throughout the day, but did not have any assistance during the nighttime hours and was not in sight or audible range during the nighttime hours of adult assistance.
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Why did not the neighbors report this error?
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I knew what you were going to say, but it's not the neighbor's fault the daddy left him there. But to report it, evidently somebody did. I don't know. I wasn't there. And the. So let me finish the story. In court documents attained by Weston, which is CBS affiliate wdtv, the law enforcement said the decision to leave the boy in the garage alone and without resources, particularly in case there was an emergency was extremely unsafe situation for the child. No. Right. So they also said that Benitez Shoshone in 2023 was charged with felony child neglect after being accused of leaving his then six year old child unsupervised while he went to drink alcohol for several hours. Yeah, so same kid, he pled guilty to one count of misdemeanor child neglect in that case and was sentenced to one year unsupervised probation. If you want to ask something, ask. How come they didn't take the fucking kid then? Benitez Shashon is currently being locked up in the North Central Regional Jail on a hundred thousand dollar bond. And he played not guilty. You were in Florida, how is he not guilty? He's pleading, he's pleading the catch his pulley and they'll give him whatever and he better be lucky that kid in dead. And thankfully somebody, you know, maybe the 8 year old didn't tell him they that, you know maybe they probably the 8 year old didn't know when daddy was coming back. Maybe they, you know, tell him they got him, gave him a sandwich or something to sell him again the next day and whatever, whatever. Eventually they just call the cops. That's crazy. Crazy, crazy shitty parents. To start out this September, short little.
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Life has been neglect, neglect, neglect, neglect, neglect.
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That's, that's only what we know about.
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Exactly. You know my mom, when she got married to my dad she was 18 and he went into the border patrol. So she was staged. They were stationed in Heavenville and my dad has a brother that's 13, I think 13 years younger than him. And he went to go visit them and at the time that brother was you know, young like 15ish years old. And mom was frustrated with him so she locked him in the garage for a couple of hours and there was like tarantulas and stuff and literally that he will still talk about that to this day. And that was a short period of time. It wasn't his parent, it wasn't days, it wasn't.
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You know I'm pretty sure this, it's not a good experience to be locked in anywhere when you do that.
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No, it's not, it's not. I'm just like, it's life changing. Well, got another great family matters for you.
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Briefer. It's time for family matters.
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So we have an elderly couple and the, the male, the husband, his name is Scott Douglas Levin. He was a nurse but he was 75. But he had been a nurse, and he was caring for his wife. Her name was Iris Jean Anderson, and she weighed approximately 130 pounds. And typically, we don't talk about weight as part of a story, but. But this is relevant. So the wife was dealing with health issues and used a walker. And one day in early May of 2023, she fell in the bathtub and she hurt herself and she hurt her arm. And Lovin said that the dad, the husband, said he couldn't help her, and he refused to call 911 and he refused to drive her to the hospital. And his reasoning for that was because she was obese and he didn't want to wait in the hospital waiting room. And so he just believed that she would die lying in the bathtub.
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Nice.
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On May 8th of that year of 2023, authorities were alerted when Anderson's pastor went and visited the couple. And Lovin, the man, informed the pastor that his wife had died. Trusting the husband's word, the pastor then called the daughter of their daughter. And she was unaware that her mother had passed. And so she was unaware of her mother's passing. She went and checked and she. It's just very. It's very confusing, but she went and checked, and the daughter returned, and she realized that her mother actually was dead in the bathtub. And so she called the police. And the police arrived that, of course, that same day, and they began the investigation. And when they took the body for the autopsy, they determined that Iris died from gastrointestinal hemorrhage due to prolonged immobility and complicated by multiple blunt force injuries, including a fractured right shoulder, bruises on her right arm and eye, and a scalp laceration. And her manner of death was ruled a homicide. So she didn't just slip and fall in the bathtub like he bludgeoned her. I mean, with all of that, you know, so. Lovren was charged with second degree manslaughter through culpable negligence, but ultimately pleaded guilty to criminal neglect by a person who knew or should have known her condition, risked great bodily harm. And so on August 28th of this year, he was sentenced to. To 41 months in prison because of his plea deal. And he's 75, but still him. Yeah, so that's that.
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I mean, now gets to pay for him to die. I mean, should have given it to him the same way.
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Exactly.
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That he gave it out.
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Yep.
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That's just enough of the bats. Well, this is bad, too, but not that kind of bad.
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Says Planes, Trains and Automobiles. Now if you were going to hijack something, what would it be?
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If I was gonna hijack a plane, I would take it. I would hijack a, like a private jet or something. Oh, well, yeah. PJ all the way.
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Like a Gulf Stream with stewards and, or whatever they call them. Flight attendant. Yeah. And all the alcohol you could drink.
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Yes.
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Well, I'm going to try to play a clip and then I'll tell you the story. Okay. Let's see if this works out. And we're going right back home to Louisiana.
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The details tonight on the man that Louisiana State Police say hijacked a construction crane and caused Several crashes on i10 in Vinton early yesterday morning. Matthew Vincent, who's 37, Vinton is facing multiple charges and after police say he unlawfully entered the crane around 5:30 while it was parked in a work zone near LA108 Detectives say he moved the boom over the westbound lanes, causing vehicles to run into crane cables. Officials say at least two people are injured after at least four crashes that damaged the crane and forced a lengthy interstate closure. Vincent was said to have abandoned his truck in a nearby field before climbing into the crane. Vincent was arrested and booked into the Calcasieu Correctional center on charges of simple burglary, aggravated obstruction of a highway, negligent injuring, hit and run driving, criminal mischief, and for a pedestrian on the interstate. Troopers say the investigation remains active and are looking into whether or not he may have had an accomplice.
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Yeah, hijack crane. Why that? They don't drive at like one mile an hour, literally. The. When I worked in the plants, they have to put the bigger ones, they have to put mats down in front of them so you can roll. You literally walk aside and put the mats out in the front. And it's 5:30 in the morning. You already abandon his truck in the field. Meth is bad. Motherfucker. And then you just going to get in and evidently hit the levers and drop the booms across the interstate. Can you imagine riding along the interstate and hitting the cable? What a fucking idiot. The, I mean, it's not funny. Thank God nobody died.
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Right? But it's, that's, that's like people standing on a bridge. So I mean, this is worse. But people that stand on a bridge and drop bricks and you know, I.
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Don'T think he intended to drop the crane. He wants to leave. Yes. He was trying to drive the crane away. He was trying to make the quick getaway on a crane in a big crane.
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He should have used his truck.
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Meth is math. Right. You gotta have them. Takes all kinds of dumb criminals. And that's way over in West Louisiana, almost to the Texas line on Interstate 10. I'd have been so pissed. 5:30 in the morning, like get a job. I'm trying to get to my job because that's when everybody travels to work. I'm trying to get to my job, go do my seven to whatever, to four, whatever it may be. And you drop some in the interstate. Now I'm going to be late, going to be in trouble. My boss. And you're still high on meth.
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Yes.
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Yeah. There you have it. Yeah.
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Wow. Don't know what to say about that. Well, except we're going to Vegas for I'm on a roll today.
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Family Matters.
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Yes.
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Holy shit. It's time for Family Matters.
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This story is a little wild, but we have a grandson who's 32 years old. His name is Spencer McDonald. And his grandmother, Dina Vail was 80 years old. She taught ballet for 65 years. And she, at 80 years old, was still teaching ballet. And this woman must have had it going on because she had a 43 year old boyfriend. So Spencer went to Dina's apartment and got a kitchen knife. And what they are describing or saying is a cosplay sword in one section. They're also calling it a mace in another section of the story. So he had a knife and the.
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Sword, it's a weapon. Yeah.
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In her Las Vegas apartment. And he killed her in her bedroom. And then he waited for the boyfriend to return home. And the boyfriend's name was A.J. graydon. And when Graydon entered, McDonald bludgeoned and stabbed him and then dragged Graydon's body to lie alongside his grandmother's body. And he hid out in the apartment for a couple of days. He just, you know, continued to go through his routine, which was probably playing video games or something like that. So on June 28, two maintenance workers were sent to do a wellness check after Dina missed her ballet class because I told you, she was still teaching ballet. And so they entered the apartment and that is where Spencer ambushed them. And he attacked one of them, one of the maintenance workers, and killed them. And then he attacked the other one and he was able to escape. And so now we have three dead, one escapes. He goes and he gets help and Spencer is arrested. And so now, and I forgot this part of the story, I'm sorry, I probably should restart it, but all that happened in 2023. So. So now we're in July of 2025, and the sentencing and the Plea has come down. So McDonald Spencer has pleaded guilty, saying that he's mentally ill. And he pleaded guilty, but mentally ill to three counts of murder. In exchange, prosecutors agreed not to seek the death penalty. And on August 28, he received life in prison without the possibility of parole. But one of the victim's loved ones said that anything less than him being murdered, him being killed the same way their loved one was killed was unacceptable. Like life in prison in a mental health ward is just not enough. Like he's, you know, it's just they need to be killed with blunt force. He needs to be killed with blunt force trauma. So he was sentenced and his defense attorney insisted that the balance between accountability and treatment is critical. And that's where I said Graydon's sister had voiced her opposition, saying, my family will feel AJ's absence for the rest of our lives. And this is truly unforgivable. Nothing short of death by stabbing and bludgeoning seems sufficient as punishment for this predator crazy. And that's the truth.
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Concur. This one contains two things I'm very passionate about for obviously different reasons. But I'm going to take you way back and tell you what this fine young gentleman did when he was a young man in Utah. And his name is Ralph Menzies. Okay, so way back when, 1986, I was 16, year 15. We were living our best lives. Well, men's V, he wasn't living his best. Well, his victim wasn't living her best life. And her name was Maureen Hunsacker Saker, and she was almost 27 years old. And Menzies kidnapped her from the gas station where she worked at as an attendant in the Salt Lake City suburb of Kearns on February 23, 1986. Now, no one song kidnapper, but the. The cops became concerned when customers at the gas station said, hey, they kept showing up. There's no one here. Right, right. And they were like, that's probably not really good, but yeah.
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And back then, people actually at the gas stations pumped gas for you.
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That was a little bit after that time. Okay. But the be like rolling up to a Circle K and there's nobody there.
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Yeah.
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Right. So no one there, no one's home. Can't. Hello, you in the back, you're in the cooler. Well, no, she wasn't. So back then, they didn't get on their cell phone and call the cops. They had to use a store phone or a pay phone or whatever. But no one saw her when she went missing. And, you know, the. They look around the Gas station. The cops do when they get there, and they find some of Hunsaker's belongings behind the counter. And 70 bucks was missing from the register back then. $70, like 700 now.
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Exactly.
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Right. So night goes on and, you know, they contact her husband and all that, and the cops are actually with her husband. And guess what happened?
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They got a call.
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And again, there's no cell phones, so they had to get a call from a landline or a pay phone. And Hunsy Hunsaker called her husband, who was actually standing with the sheriff's deputy, and she told him that she had been robbed and kidnapped, but that her doctor intended to release her. Can you imagine getting that phone call?
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No.
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Now, right after that, the line went dead. Right. So later on, two days later, it's beautiful country up there. Everybody's outdoorsman and shit. And a hiker found Hunsack Saker's body in a picnic area a big cottonwood canyon just south of Salt Lake City. She had been strangled and her throat had been cut. Showing the picture to you? To the. So detectives do what they do, and somehow they were. They were able to connect this guy Menzies, M E N Z I E S to the crime. And they say they found Hunsaker's identification cards amongst his belongings when he was picked up on unrelated charges. Okay, we know we got this. It's been murdered. We know who she is. And I'm pet frisking you down because you're being an. For whatever.
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Yeah.
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And lo and behold, you got her on you.
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Well, trophy, I guess.
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Well, he maintained his innocence. He said, I ain't got anything to do it. I didn't do it. Da, da, da, da. Well, they took his ass to trial. In a trial, prosecutor Ernie Jones called Menzies a psychopath, saying that there is no therapy for the evil inside him. And this according to Salt Lake Tribune. His defense attorney at times, Brooke Wells, argued for Lean and See, saying that Menzies had a long history of being abused and neglected as a child and has been diagnosed with mental disorders. Yeah, they say that. All our listeners that. They say that in every case. Right. Well, the third District Court Judge, Raymond Uno, he kind of struggled with, not this, the guilt or innocence part, the sentence, death, because he was up for death penalty. Right. And he just. He struggled with the death decision, but ultimately said he needed to protect the community. Citing Menzies long history of violent offenses. He said is with the heaviest of heart that I make this most difficult decision and I find the death penalty is appropriate. Okay, so to send some to death.
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Yeah.
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In Utah.
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Yeah.
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Like probably 87 or 88, something like that. Okay, so now nearly 40 years after the crime, it's Menzies time. Okay, this where the story gets convoluted.
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Okay.
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But his attorneys say he no longer exhibits an awareness that he is being executed for the crime murder. And they filed a competency petition. I see your mouth hanging open, but listen, it's very important. They said that awareness is critical. And the U.S. supreme Court has ruled that an inmate can't be executed if they don't understand why they're being executed. So the court, I guess Supreme Court criticized Judge Spade's decisions to schedule Menzies execution and reject all new evidence that the inmate's cognitive function has continued to deteriorate. So let me go back to this head of the story. This is the second reason why it's important to me and I'll come back and finish it. I want to tell you what kind of a douchebag he was. First. I hate that word. But the. So we're going to Utah. And the Utah Supreme Court has stopped a firing squad execution set for next week over concerns that the inmate being put to death has dementia so severe that he doesn't understand why he's being killed. This one really kind of throws me for Luke. My daddy just died of the worst kind of dementia and it was just horrible. Anyway, the court's ruling on Friday, August 29th vacates the execution warrant for Ralphmanzies and sends the case back to a lower court so there's mental capacity can be reevaluated. Menzies, 67, has been set to die by firing squad just after Midnight on Friday, September 5th for the 1986 murder of 26 year old Maureen Hunsaker, who was a married mother of three who was kidnapped, robbed, strangled and found tied to a tree with her throat slit. So M's attorney told USA Today that M's dementia has significantly worsened since his last evaluation over a year ago. Well, if you got dementia, it's not going to get any better. And it's generally four to six years anyway. They. They said he's tethered to an oxygen tank, uses a wheelchair, is confused and disoriented and no longer understands why the state of Utah is trying to kill him, she said. We look forward to present our case in the trial court. The Utah Attorney General's office did not mailer respond to questions about whether appeal to relent to the U.S. supreme Court or accept an email Evaluation from Menzies. And Jared Garcia, who's an executive director of the Utah Department of Corrections, said in a statement the agency will continue to carefully monitor the situation and remains prepared to carry out the sentence of the court when, if we. And if we are called to do so. Utah's Third District Court Judge, Matthew Bates, previously rejected arguments about Menzies dementia, ruling in June that while the inmate exhibited cognitive decline during his last evaluation, he consistently and rationally understands the reason for his death sentence. I'm almost dying. This is a crazy story. Yeah, crazy. Crazy is crazy. So they're now citing two expert reports that raise serious and significant questions about whether Menezes is competent to be executed. And it said for the district court to weigh the evidence and conclude otherwise at this stage was an error. So you might want to ask, how did the victim's family feel about the situation always 40 years later? And, yeah, you get both ends of spectrum. You get people who hate the death penalty, people who love it and whatever, sir. Maureen Hunsaker's son, Matthew Hunsaker, declined to comment on the latest developments and asked for privacy. But he had previously told USA Today that he believes men's dementia arguments are a ploy, that the inmate's condition is being exaggerated in an effort to spare his life. He said, I'm not buying it. He doesn't understand what's going on. And he added that Menzies attorneys have brought no evidence before the court by any doctors, staff, cellmates, anybody, that when he wakes up in the morning, he doesn't know where he's at. He knows he's in prison for killing my mom. He had been planning to attend the execution. The son, he said, he said he. He wanted to attend execution, quote, just to see the closure myself. So the Utah Supreme Court justice said that they understand the ruling could distress the Hunsaker family. They said, we acknowledge that this uncertainty has caused the family of Marine Hunsaker immense suffering. And it is not our desire to prolong that suffering. But. But we are bound by the rule of law. So the. I mean, they. They can either choose to challenge it and proceed or not, but he was.
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Already serving time for the crime. He was found guilty. And I was comparing 40 years. Yeah, exactly. And I was comparing it to the real housewife, Erica Girardi. Her husband, Tom, was in cognitive decline, but when he was getting charged and going to trial for his crime, and they did the whole dementia thing, and those are two different ends of the spectrum. He sat there for 40 years knowing what he did.
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B
Absolutely. I agree with you. But then I think about my dad, and I remember. I remember the first sign of anything being wrong, which is. It was like a missed word or, I mean, like nothing almost. Right. And I thought, because we hung together all the time. He's my best friend. And the. And I remember thinking, okay, but I didn't say anything to my mom about the time. And then a bit more. A little bit more, probably, mom asked me one day, the. And I was like, yeah. And ultimately when, you know, got him to Houston and they gave him the diagnosis. The best in the world, and they gave him the diagnosis and they said, you know, basically four years, something like that. Well, I mean, he had fucking full cognitive driving the whole nine yards and doing whatever for a long time.
- [40:09]
C
Yeah.
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B
And then they just started the paranoid. He had the paranoia, dementia, which is the worst. Just horrible. And that when it. When it went, it really went.
- [40:19]
C
Yes.
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B
And I'm talking about within a period of a year, I guess a year and a month without going into much detail. It went from. It went from almost being able to. I mean, certainly not having sentences and forgetting names and all that to just not being him.
- [40:47]
C
Right.
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D
But you.
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B
He still had a few loose moments, maybe 10 seconds at a time where it would be, you know, I love you, or can I help you with something? Or whatever. But just seconds in. But then in the end, and he was already gone.
- [41:02]
C
Yeah.
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B
So. I don't know. I don't know. I'm not. I'm not a medical doctor, but the. You know how I feel about the death penalty. But the. The. If it didn't ever happens to me and I'm on death row, they can go ahead and put a bullet in me because I don't want. I don't want to live like that.
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C
That's the other part that I was waiting for you to finish what you were saying, because when your. Your dad got to his toughest part, and if this guy really is suffering, all you kept saying is, I don't want my dad to suffer anymore. You know, like, just don't.
- [41:29]
B
He's not. And. And so that's what gives me the strength every day. And I deal with it different.
- [41:34]
C
Yeah.
- [41:34]
B
You know, certain family members buying and cry every day or whatever. I don't. I take the strength that he's with me right now.
- [41:40]
C
Right.
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B
Every. Every decision I make, it makes me a better man in. But I don't know. I don't know when this one. I can tell you what if he truly has dementia, he didn't give a. Shoot him or he's gonna die. See, the last. The last stage y' all is. And I need to really, really bring awareness to dimension because I didn't know it. I guess it's like you hear more about cancer with dementia. As dad had it over years, we didn't tell hardly anybody about it, but as you talk to people, it's like everybody knows somebody that has it, and of course, they don't have it to the extent that my dad did. The. You know that. The last part. Fuck that. Yeah, the. I mean, you might as well go ahead and put a bullet in and put him out of his picture, although he doesn't know his misery.
- [42:31]
C
No.
- [42:32]
B
Crazy.
- [42:33]
C
It is crazy.
- [42:33]
B
It's been a depressing day.
- [42:36]
C
This is. Well, this is true crime, Woody.
- [42:39]
B
Okay, Cindy, what time you give me.
- [42:42]
D
We did, like, four or five family matters.
- [42:45]
B
Bad families. And at least we got soft, y'. All. We got the guy on the crane in Louisiana.
- [42:52]
C
Yeah.
- [42:53]
B
So there you have it. The. Hey, let's roll with the September. Hashtag justice, Bradley. Hashtag justice for ao burning Parish. Holy. I gotta get back on the Tick tock kick hard this week. And. And I'm going to, because I have so much. You know. You know. You know about 70% of it, obviously. You don't know everything. All the messages and the phone calls and people I've talked to and everything else. And yes, this is proceeding. I can't. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna tell you where it. Because I don't want them to know where it's at.
- [43:31]
C
Yeah.
- [43:31]
B
And. But I was going to do a TikTok before Labor Day that says, hey, murderers, or you have to say, schmurders on TikTok. Enjoy your last Labor Day.
- [43:42]
C
Right, Right.
- [43:43]
B
For free.
- [43:43]
C
Exactly.
- [43:44]
B
Your next one to be an Angola.
- [43:45]
C
You know, but all your.
- [43:46]
B
Well, you may be in the Vernon Parish jail because it's going to take a couple years to get the prosecution. That's just like this. And, yeah, the trial, the delay, the trial, blah, blah, blah, whatever.
- [43:58]
D
But your time is coming.
- [43:59]
B
Yes, justice is coming. And so I hadn't been telling you this, but the. The. Every night when I go to get into bed, you're already asleep. And the last thing I do before take my glasses off is I've been flipping the Bible open and picking out a thing. And last night, you know, Old Testament, I don't know where it's going to come up. And last night it was. The paragraph I read was about justice, and the Lord talked about justice. How honorable is justice, Right?
- [44:29]
C
Exactly.
- [44:29]
B
And and fight for justice. And we not ever backing down. They think they got a reprieve last week because they didn't get an episode dropped.
- [44:40]
C
Right.
- [44:41]
B
Guess what? They'll be tripled down this week.
- [44:44]
C
Yeah.
- [44:45]
B
So with all the technical stuff going on the Anyway, y' all enjoy September. Hopefully this little bit of cool weather's coming and hopefully we'll avoid the H word, Louisianans and everybody along the coastline. And we love and appreciate each and every one of you. Thank you for liking and listening and sharing and supporting us. Patreon of Convicts. Hope you're enjoying all your commercial free early releases and other stuff that's put up. And we just love y'. All. Couldn't do it without you for sure. We're two months away today from when we started the show.
- [45:22]
C
Yes.
- [45:22]
B
Right. So we're 10 months in and love y'. All. You got anything else?
- [45:27]
C
No.
- [45:27]
B
All right. With that being said, I'm Wendy Overton. I'm Cindy Overton and we host a True Crime. Time for Tuesday, September 2, 2025. We'll holler at you later. Peace.
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A
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