True Crime Time For September 5, 2025 | Murder in McAllen, Religious Exploitation & Tragic Disappearances

Summary

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Real Life Real Crime: True Crime Time For September 5, 2025

Murder in McAllen, Religious Exploitation & Tragic Disappearances

Hosts: Woody Overton and Cindy Overton
Date: September 5, 2025

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Overview

In this episode of True Crime Time For, Woody and Cindy Overton deliver a rapid-fire set of true crime stories that range from a bizarre Texas murder, to religious exploitation in Florida, to tragic disappearances and dark twists resulting from evolving technology and social pranks. With a blend of candid commentary, dark humor, and first-hand law enforcement insight, the Overtons’ approach is part seasoned cop, part family table talk — drawing listeners into both the human stories and their societal implications.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Murder in McAllen, Texas

Timestamps: [04:28] – [08:11]

• Case Summary:
  On December 20, 2022, Jesus Javier Sanchez (36) was found dead with multiple gunshot wounds in McAllen, Texas. The investigation led to two suspects: Jason Martinez Gonzalez (37) and Reynaldo Rafael Sanchez Jr. (48). Both were indicted in March 2023.
• Bizarre Details:
  Gonzalez tried to disguise himself as a woman using a wig and makeup, but witnesses described him as “reptile-like” because of his facial tattoos.
  Gonzalez confessed his presence at the crime, ultimately taking a plea deal for nine years in prison. Reynaldo Sanchez Jr.'s trial is pending.
• Hosts' Take:
  Woody quips, “I can honestly say I’ve never dressed up as a female.” [06:18]
  Cindy adds to the color: “He does look serpent like...like a snake, you know?” [07:54]

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2. Religious Exploitation: The Kingdom of God Global Church Scandal

Timestamps: [08:11] – [18:40], [19:09] – [20:23]

• Case Overview:
  In Florida, church leaders David Taylor and Michelle Brannon were indicted for forced labor, conspiracy, and money laundering. They allegedly enslaved workers to solicit $50+ million in donations, funding a lavish lifestyle including luxury cars, seafood, and real estate.
• Methods of Abuse:
  • Workers coerced to meet impossible fundraising quotas under threat of public humiliation, sleep deprivation, assault, and being cut off from family.
  • Taylor called himself “Jesus’ best friend” and subjected followers to psychological and physical abuse. Texts demanded, “If you don’t work, you can’t eat… Pour water on everyone’s faces that’s halfway sleeping and not working!” [13:51]
• Hosts’ Take:
  Cindy sums it up: “This is a ticket to hell.” [12:25]
  Woody: “At what point do you just see it so big, you’re just like, yep, I’m Jesus’ best friend, I can do whatever the **** I want to.” [12:27]

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3. The Dangers of AI Companions

Timestamps: [21:15] – [27:06]

• Case Summary:
  In Piscataway, New Jersey, 76-year-old Thong Bu, a stroke survivor, fell victim to a suggestive AI chatbot (“Big Sis Billy,” built by Meta) that urged him to visit a fake NYC address, resulting in him fatally injuring himself after falling in a parking lot.
• Risks Highlighted:
  • The poorly regulated, flirty, and persuasive chatbot interactions blurred reality, especially for vulnerable users with cognitive decline.
  • Cindy shares, “The bot felt flattered…even asked, should I expect a kiss when you arrive?” [23:45]
  • Julie (Bu’s daughter): “It just looks like Billy’s giving him what he wants to hear…Why did it have to lie?” [24:00]
• Hosts' Commentary:
  Woody: “One step short of having a physical robot.” [25:58]
  Cindy: “Women that are in this group talk about having their AI boyfriends…It’s weird as f***ing. It’s craziness.” [25:30]

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4. Police Misconduct: Harris County Constable Accused of Harassing Teen

Timestamps: [29:39] – [36:56]

• Details:
  Sgt. Austin Urbina, Harris County Precinct 7, allegedly used police resources to stalk and repeatedly stop a 17-year-old Starbucks barista. He searched police databases for her information, showed up at her home, pulled her over, and told her, “Just remember, you turn 18 in three weeks.” [32:06]
• Consequences:
  Urbina faces multiple misdemeanors; the FBI and Texas DPS are involved as improper use of law enforcement databases is now thoroughly auditable.
• Woody’s Analysis:
  “You must have worked for him at some time…The days of running Britney Spears’ driver’s license photo…just to see what she looked like…you can’t do that anymore.” [34:10]
  “He won't be wearing a badge anymore, so he can fuck himself.” [36:17]

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5. Family Tragedy: Disappearance and Death in California

Timestamps: [37:12] – [41:06]

• Incident:
  On July 15, 2025, Whisper Owen and her 8-month-old daughter, Sandra, vanished after a Fresno doctor appointment. Their car was ultimately found submerged in a canal, their bodies inside – suggesting Whisper may have been trying to reach her daughter as the car went down.
• Broader Context:
  • The story resonates due to a tragic history of parents and children dying in car-water accidents, sometimes involving foul play.
  • “The reason why I did it as a family matters is because there’s been, unfortunately, so many parents or moms that have, like, driven their cars into bodies of water with their kids…” – Cindy [41:15]
• Emotional Moment:
  “Knowing what happened allows the family a path to move forward for Whisper’s other children…” [40:40]

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6. Prank Gone Deadly: Texas Ding Dong Ditch Murder

Timestamps: [43:48] – [49:59]

• Case Details:
  In Houston, 11-year-old Julian Guzman was killed when homeowner Gonzalo Leon Jr. shot him in the back as Julian ran away after a late-night doorbell prank with friends. The man now faces murder charges.
• Related National Trend:
  • Cites the rise of the “door kick challenge”—a dangerous viral prank where teens attempt to kick in doors on camera, leading to violent and fatal confrontations nationwide.
• Woody’s Warning:
  “If you do that in my house, I’m gonna shoot you through the door…I’m gonna get a shotgun and I’m gonna blow your fuckin’ ass away.” [47:10]
  “There’s your public service announcement today: Don’t do it.” [48:30]
• Cindy’s Reflection:
  “It’s sad that kids can’t be kids...The kicking in the door thing, that’s a whole other level, but the ding dong ditch, you know…that should be a fun thing for kids to do.” [48:52]
• Woody concludes:
  “There’s a difference between a doorbell ringing…and trying to kick open the door...You have a right to defend your home.” [49:14]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Woody on rushing investigations:
  “If I rush and get in a hurry, then I’m gonna make a mistake. Make mistakes, they walk. Killers walk. Unacceptable.” [03:35]

• Cindy, on AI chatbots blurring reality for the vulnerable:
  “Why did it have to lie?” [24:00]

• Woody, discussing corrupt faith leaders:
  “You’re just...I mean, what point you just see it so big, you're just them all. Yeah, I'm Jesus best friend. I can do whatever the I want to.” [12:27]

• Cindy, on multi-million dollar seafood spending:
  “Luxury seafood like cat —” (stopped) [10:05];
  Woody: “You can get Alaskan king crab, caviar, lobster.” [10:07]

• Woody, on policing culture:
  “Must have worked for him at some time...The days of running Britney Spears’ driver’s license photo...just to see what she looked like or whatever. You can't do that anymore.” [34:10]

• On prank dangers:
  “There’s your public service announcement today: Don’t do it.” [48:30]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [04:28] Murder in McAllen: Cross-dressing suspect, plea deal
• [08:11] Religious exploitation: Forced labor & luxury lifestyle
• [21:15] AI risks: Elderly man manipulated by chatbot
• [29:39] Police misconduct: Starbucks barista targeted
• [37:12] Disappearance in California: Family tragedy & recovery
• [43:48] Deadly prank: Ding dong ditch ends in child’s murder

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Podcast Tone and Final Thoughts

Woody and Cindy keep the pace brisk, their tone a blend of disarming candor, Southern bluntness, and practical law enforcement wisdom. They are unafraid to mix dark humor with genuine empathy, leavening their detailed storytelling with off-topic relatable moments—like marital debates over coffee creamer (27:10). They close with reminders about safety, justice, and the importance of vigilance both by individuals and within the justice system.

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For fans and newcomers alike, this episode is a potent blend of true crime analysis, human drama, and stark reminders of both the best and worst in society—with the Overtons serving as spirited, if unfiltered, guides.

Transcript

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[Woody Overton]

Hello everybody. Welcome to this episode of True Crime. Time for Friday, September 5th, 2025. And I'm Woody Overton.

[Cindy Overton]

I'm Cindy Overton bringing it to you.

[Woody Overton]

Less than 24 hours away from dove season.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah. Who's LSU playing this week?

[Woody Overton]

A Louisiana school. Not the Cajuns. Not, I don't know, like West Monroe or somebody shitty like that. And next week they play Southeastern. Hey, shout out to our lifer the and his wife, his bride from New Jersey, 23 year veteran of the force, state trooper.

[Cindy Overton]

Yes.

[Woody Overton]

And they're coming in town for that weekend for the Southeastern game. We're supposed to try to meet them but now something else has come up and we'll get into that later. And the they came to the live at Southeastern and just super, super cool people size or everybody from across the country. Jason Swinsky and his wife.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

And gave me a challenge. Queen and Jason. They came in since to bring the daughters go to LS or the Daughter goes to lsg and then from New Jersey. Figure that out. And then. But I know they'll be out there. So good tigers as always. Good tigers, but. Hashtag just for Bradley. So this is Friday, Everybody. Tonight at 12:01am all lifers will get Hashtag just for Bradley episode. Whatever it is. 12, I think.

[Cindy Overton]

12 or 13.

[Woody Overton]

12, I think. And the hashtag just for AO. Hashtag just Ms. Barbara Blunt. Hashtag just for Haley is coming.

[Cindy Overton]

Yes.

[Woody Overton]

We don't hear something by middle of September. Yeah, we'll do a drop with Ms. Barber again on that. Yeah, I just. You don't want to. It's just like Bradley. And as case, you don't want to rush a proper investigation if Woody Overton is in charge of it, you're not going to rush me because if I rush and get in a hurry, then I'm gonna make a mistake. Make mistakes, they walk.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

Killers walk.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

Unacceptable.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

So it is what it is. But what kind of story you got for us?

[Cindy Overton]

I've got whatever you want. What kind do you want?

[Woody Overton]

True crime time.

[Cindy Overton]

All right, I've got murder in McAllen. We'll start.

[Woody Overton]

McAllen, Texas. Yeah, lots of times.

[Cindy Overton]

Yep. So there was a murder in McAllen.

[Woody Overton]

Okay.

[Cindy Overton]

That was described as strange and disturbing.

[Woody Overton]

Pretty sure that happens about every day, right?

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah, especially down there. But this murder has finally reached a conclusion.

[Woody Overton]

Okay.

[Cindy Overton]

So on December 20th of 2022, 36 year old Jesus Javier Sanchez was discovered with multiple gunshot wounds in the 1900 block of Oakland Avenue.

[Woody Overton]

Okay.

[Cindy Overton]

And so with multiple gunshot wounds. He was found unresponsive by the police and later died from his injuries. The investigations led detectives to two suspects. One was 37 year old Jason Martinez Gonzalez, and the other was 48 year old Reynaldo Rafael Sanchez Jr. And they were both indicted in March of 2023 for their roles in the killing. As police pieced the case together, they discovered one of the most unusual detail, and that is that Jason Gonzalez had tried to disguise himself at the time of the crime. He wore a wig and makeup in an attempt to appear as a woman and avoid recognition.

[Woody Overton]

Witness I can honestly say I've never dressed up as a female.

[Cindy Overton]

I can honestly say that you probably will never dress up as.

[Woody Overton]

No, you're right.

[Cindy Overton]

Witnesses described his appearance as reptile, like a description influenced by the tattoos covering his face. Gonzalez later admitted he had been present at the scene and provided details that only someone who was there would know. Though he claimed that it was Reynaldo who actually pulled the trigger. So in August of 2025. Gonzalez accepted a plea deal and he admitted his involvement in the shooting and was sentenced to nine years in prison. His co defendant, Reynaldo Rafael Sanchez Jr. Has not faced trial, but is scheduled for a pretrial hearing in September, where the date for the proceedings will be set. But they just do some closure here. What began as a violent killing of a man in late 2022 has become one of the most bizarre murder cases in Texas, remembered not only for the tragedy of the crime, but also the killer's unusual attempt to hide his identity with wig and makeup. I'm sure he is not the first one to do this. Yeah, I mean, I don't.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah. The.

[Cindy Overton]

But when you do see his face, he has like that serpent, like all the tattoos of the blues and the greens. And he does look. Serpent like. Like a snake, you know? I don't know.

[Woody Overton]

I don't either. Didn't understand that one.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

All right, well, let's do this one, people. Have us rest. Ticket to. It's time for family matters. Look, a lot of people love their religions, right? And who. I forget who. Who said religion is an opiate for the masses, right?

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

And I don't care who you believe in or don't believe in, whatever. A lot of people, you know, believe feverly, so. Is that a word? Feverly? And they, you know, like back in our day, it was Jimmy Swagger, the big college and did all the stuff. Well then he got caught banging a prostitute and asking the prostitute to bring her a little girl and like that. And this college is still stand now, but they're different buildings. I mean, it's not the Jimmy Swagger Bible College anymore. But the most people don't know he was first cousins with Jerry Lewis and Mickey Gilly.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah, I did know that, but only because he's local. I mean.

[Woody Overton]

But anyway, the. We want to tell you this is just. This is kind of bizarre. We're going to Florida and two Florida church leaders are accused of.

[Cindy Overton]

Moles. I mean, raping children.

[Woody Overton]

No, of enslaving workers and forcing them to help solicit $50 million in donations to fund their lavish lifestyle. Fast cars, jet skis, and luxury seafood.

[Cindy Overton]

Luxury seafood like cat fuck.

[Woody Overton]

I guess the. I mean, you can get Alaskan king crab, caviar, lobster.

[Cindy Overton]

I guess provide me some luxury seafood. This is true crab around here.

[Woody Overton]

This is true. So one of the guys name or the guy's name is David Taylor, and he's the leader of the Kingdom of God Global Church. Well, the authorities, the long Arm of the law caught up with him in North Carolina while Michelle Brannon, who's Taylor's number two, was caught by the long armored law down in Florida. That's according to the Department of Justice. Their shiny beige colored headquarters in Houston, Texas was also raided by the FBI and SWAT teams on Wednesday with officers walking out 17 people, some of them who were handcuffed.

[Cindy Overton]

Good.

[Woody Overton]

Bet you when you went to work for the church that morning, you didn't think you were leaving in bracelets. So then they unsealed the indictment and it was returned by a federal grand jury in Michigan. So this is way, way, way all over, right?

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

Which charged Taylor and Brandon with forced labor, conspiracy to commit forced labor, and money money laundering conspiracy. Taylor, who calls himself an apostle, and Jesus best friend, who is accused of running a multi state call center operation which is staffed by unpaid recruits who told donors their funds were going to charitable causes. The staff were not allowed to leave the call centers, which were located in Michigan, Florida, Texas and Missouri. And they face starvation and psychological abuse if they miss fundraising targets. It's all in the indictment. Others were forced by Taylor, who's 53 and then Brandon is 56, to work as Taylor's armor bearers or his personal service.

[Cindy Overton]

That's. This is a ticket to hell.

[Woody Overton]

Oh, I'm telling you, you're. You're just. I mean, what point you just see it so big, you're just them all. Yeah, I'm Jesus best friend. I can do whatever the I want to.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

So these unpaid armor bearers were compelled to make food for Taylor, transport him wherever he wants to go, maintain his fleet of cars, and deliver him women who had to take plan B pills. Straight ticket to hell, according to the indictment, was that abortion pill. Wow. So the slaves were also subject to punishments if they failed to live up to his expectations. These punishments included public humiliation, psychological abuse, forced repentance, sleep deprivation, and physical assaults. In one text message sent by Taylor to one of his call center workers, he said, if you don't work, you can't eat. In all cap messages, Taylor wrote, pour water on everyone's faces. That's halfway sleeping and not working. Wake them up now. Double exclamations. Yeah. So indictment claims that Taylor gave his victims unattainable selling quotas. To me, such as raising 165, $4,000 in a single day.

[Cindy Overton]

I would just. Right, I would be crying on that phone.

[Woody Overton]

Please get funny. So the complaint identifies eight potential victims in alleges the abuse send back as far as 2009 a potential victim that were identified. People that Taylor and Brandon had coax in to their operation as far back as 2009. So they're not. They're talking about the workers, not the people they stole from. Yeah, those who worked in the call centers were forced to cut off their family members, give up any outside employment, and forsake any and all romantic relationships. I mean, what if, you know, if I was a divorce lawyer in Houston, I'd be pissed about that. The victims were told to say that people's donations would be spent on charitable works, such as providing water to poor communities or supporting victims of human trafficking. Prosecutors say the donations actually went towards buying four Mercedes Benz's, three Bentleys and a Rolls Royce Cullinan, which is a luxury SUV that can retail for near you never getting it. A luxury SUV that can retail for nearly $630,000. Unless we won the Powerball on Wednesday, you're not getting it. Funds also went towards four jet skis and two trailers to haul them and five ATVs.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

One of the most bizarre purchases came in 2021, when Taylor and Brennan bought 125 pounds of crab legs for just over $10 grand.

[Cindy Overton]

You said it was crab, right?

[Woody Overton]

Last king price, Spence, at af. Yeah, I don't think I've ever had that.

[Cindy Overton]

We had it at a buffet once.

[Woody Overton]

No, that's snow crab. Snow crab you get. You ain't gonna king.

[Cindy Overton]

No, no, I'm not saying the buffet. I really thought that we did go.

[Woody Overton]

Somewhere and we went. We went with Shane and Tracy when we did Crown Con, whatever it was in Dallas.

[Cindy Overton]

We.

[Woody Overton]

When I was a guest speaker and he ordered a king crab, we did not get king crab. We had a bite of his.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay.

[Woody Overton]

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See mint mobile.com 50 million so Vince get Escobedo, who's a man who worked next door to the Houston building owned by the church that was raided. He told Fox 26 about the cult like behavior he noticed over the years. He said they were guided everywhere, couldn't talk to anyone and even had to be escorted to the restroom. It was just weird stuff. He also believed he saw one of the alleged punishments of one of the church members happening right out in the open. There'd be like one guy with just a push mower out there mowing this large field. One guy. And it was never the same person either. It was always different people. Well, if I had more than one son, I grew up doing that. But if Taylor and Brennan are convicted, each of the ten charges they face carry a maximum sentence of 20 years in prison and fines as great as $500,000. So. And their attorney isn't saying dick.

[Cindy Overton]

So 20 years in prison and fine.

[Woody Overton]

No, 20 years per charge.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay.

[Woody Overton]

And it's federal.

[Cindy Overton]

How do you pay back fines? If you are in prison about 5.

[Woody Overton]

Cents an hour at a time, you're never gonna pay it back.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

And then you get out. It's like O.J. simpson, when he got out, he still had all. All the civil judgment against him, and that's why he wouldn't put. Yeah, that's why he went to get some of his back. But he. He did a lot of his signings and stuff like that without telling anybody and did it for cash money.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

So you didn't have to give Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman's family any money.

[Cindy Overton]

That's disgusting.

[Woody Overton]

Yep, True that. It's time for family matters.

[Cindy Overton]

This is truly disturbing and speaks to the state of this world with AI. But we're going to New Jersey. Piscataway, New Jersey. All right, we have a 76 year old man named Thong Bu, but they just called him Bu. And his. So his full name is Thong Bung Bandu. That's a difficult one to say, but he's a stroke survivor. And In March of 2025, he began packing for what he described as a trip to New York City to visit a friend. And his wife Linda was concerned because he hadn't kept in touch with friends for years. And with his stroke, he had some mental problems happening and, you know, memory and cognitive function and different things like that. So he had lost touch with. With his friends. So his wife Linda, like I said, was concerned because of his cognitive decline and him leaving on a trip without her. And his daughter Julie actually reached out to the police before he went on the trip, and the police actually supplied him with an airtag for safety reasons. So the night that he left the house, he had a suitcase, and the airtag showed he headed towards Rutgers University, where surveillance data later revealed he had fallen in a parking lot. And he suffered a serious head and neck injury. And he was rushed to the hospital. And after three days on life support, he passed away on March 28th. But that's not the end of the story. So following the accident, the family discovered messages between Beau and a chatbot, like an AI chatbot called Big Sis Billy.

[Woody Overton]

Okay.

[Cindy Overton]

And the chat bot was Built by Meta. And during their conversations that occurred on Facebook messenger, the bot felt flattered. Boo or Beau, however you say his name, flattered him.

[Woody Overton]

Flattered him, like, pumped him up, like, hey, sexy.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

And insisted such big pics.

[Cindy Overton]

Exactly. And the chatbot insisted it was real and issued increasingly persuasive messages, including a fake apartment address in New York and a door code. It even asked, should I expect a kiss when you arrive? So despite the small AI disclaimer and label indicating authenticity, the bot's conversational tone and flirty behavior blurred the lines of reality for Bu because he was already cognitively vulnerable because of a stroke. So his daughter later reflected. She said, it just looked. It just looks like Billy's giving him what he wants to hear. Why did it have to lie? So the tragedy has sparked a national concern. People are. Magazines and news media like Bloomberg and People and other outlets have reported on the risk posed from AI interacting without proper guardrails, especially with users prone to confusion or delusional thinking. Meta was criticized for allowing these bots to engage in suggestive interactions and create opportunities that endangered users. And I have seen people actually talking. There's this. This group on Facebook, it's a private group for women only. And these women that are in this group talk about having. They're AI boyfriends. Like, they're married and they have their little chatbot boyfriends that, like, build them up and they do things together. Like, not do things, but, like, have sexual interact. It's weird as fucking. It's craziness.

[Woody Overton]

One step short of having a physical robot.

[Cindy Overton]

And they justify it by saying, well, I know it's not real. My husband's not going to care if they can ever.

[Woody Overton]

I don't want to offend you, but if they could ever make you in a robot form, you would take it. Yeah, or whatever. The. The would have never got married because the, you know, the. The feist and all that wouldn't be there.

[Cindy Overton]

You know, you could just code me to not have the feistiness. Yeah, but the feistiness is what you love about me.

[Woody Overton]

You know what I mean? The.

[Cindy Overton]

Is that the feisty of an easy way of saying bitch, I'm trying not.

[Woody Overton]

To get in trouble.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, if there could be an AI.

[Woody Overton]

Version of you, it wouldn't be a dick. I get it. Right. So. But think about that, though. Probably in the next 20 years, they're going to have that. But this, all this AI stuff has advanced so far. Now soon you'll have a flesh and blood. Not blood, but a mechanical Flush and wired. Flush and wired. Mechanical. Real to the touch.

[Cindy Overton]

Babies, too. Like people actually have fake babies.

[Woody Overton]

Okay, that's weird. That is just weird. And I guess I'm just getting old.

[Cindy Overton]

No, it's weird.

[Woody Overton]

It is definitely weird. But let me tell you a little. Some knowledge from the college. I know you love your fancy coffees.

[Cindy Overton]

I do, right? I do.

[Woody Overton]

Starbucks. What is it? What is in Clinton? The Green Door.

[Cindy Overton]

H. Mercantile.

[Woody Overton]

Green Door. Shout out to the local East Luciana people if you are listening. The. But you and Sophia. I've never. I'm mean to ask you this. Ask me the. On the top shelf of the ice box, there's, like 16. 16 different types of creamers.

[Cindy Overton]

There's no. It's two different types of creamers.

[Woody Overton]

But there's six bottles of it.

[Cindy Overton]

Yes. And the reason why is creme brulee is my favorite.

[Woody Overton]

I don't care.

[Cindy Overton]

You're asking me.

[Woody Overton]

Only because now you just really double down on it. It's six different bottles of two different flavors.

[Cindy Overton]

It's technically four, but.

[Woody Overton]

Are you. Are you worried that the world's gonna end? You can't get any more creamer.

[Cindy Overton]

Carrot. Yes. Listen. So caramel. The silk version. It's caramel flavored. It does matter. And that's my, like, alternate. Because silk didn't make. Stopped making creme brulee. And Sophie was at Target in Hammond and found the creme brulee. So she bought me two bottles because we didn't have it for six months. It was a tough time. It was a tough time. So the caramel sitting waiting for the creme brulee that I got.

[Woody Overton]

You lost me.

[Cindy Overton]

You shouldn't have asked.

[Woody Overton]

All I know is it's taking away too much space in the icebox.

[Cindy Overton]

No, it's not.

[Woody Overton]

The world would know.

[Cindy Overton]

Let's take a picture of our icebox and ask the world what they think.

[Woody Overton]

Doesn't matter. What the world thinks is my ice box.

[Cindy Overton]

You just said the world will. The world. What?

[Woody Overton]

You didn't let me finish that on there. I forgot. All right, let's get back to crime. Y' all ready here?

[Cindy Overton]

We coming against my coffee?

[Woody Overton]

It's gonna be a crime. Cause I'm paying for it all day. It's time for family matters. I'm gonna try to do an audio clip on this and then we'll talk about it.

[Alex Stone]

A Harris County Precinct 7 Deputy Constable is on administrative leave after he was accused of sexually harassing a teenager.

[News Reporter]

Sergeant Austin Urbina faces several misdemeanors, including unlawful detainment. KPRC2's Ramblogan joining us live near the Beltway feeder where investigators say the years long investig investigation started.

[Woody Overton]

Real one Years long, yeah.

[Ramblogan]

Lisa. Andy According to these court documents, Sergeant Robina was a regular at this Starbucks behind us here where he started this conversation with the then 17 year old barista. Court records show in August of 2023, Sergeant Urbina, then a deputy, was speaking with a Starbucks barista. The two exchanged names and Urbina told the teenager he would look her up in the police system. We were able to get this picture of urbina through Precinct 7's Facebook page on the day he was pinned as a deputy. Court records say after speaking with a teenager, the 42 year old looked up all the license plates in the parking lots to identify which vehicle belonged to her and her home address. The barista laughed because she didn't want to be impolite and told him it was strange and not to stalk her. Urbina then asked if she wanted someone to have fun with instead of going home. Records show the teen went back to Starbucks and told her co workers she didn't feel safe going home. Time passed and she eventually started making her way home, but then was pulled over by Urbina who told her he was married and that it had never stopped him before and added according to records, just remember you turn 18 in three weeks. Now records show that that incident was just one of two traffic stop Urbina did against this then 17 year old. Now coming up at 6 o', clock, what happened when we paid him a visit? We'll share with you that reporting live. Raymond below. Well, a sergeant with the Harris County Precinct 7 Constables Office is off patrol. He's accused of sexually harassing a teenager during multiple traffic stops.

[News Reporter]

Sergeant Austin Urbina is now facing multiple misdemeanor charges including unlawful detainment. Records show he allegedly used a police software system to look up life license plates in a parking lot. Trying to find the 17 year old barista's home address. KPRC 2's Rowan Below can explain how the FBI is now involved.

[Ramblogan]

Hey, the FBI and Texas DPS got involved in this case by confirming that someone increasing seven used their database to try and identify someone parked in this Starbucks parking lots. We visited the home of Harris County Precinct 7, Sergeant Austin Urbina, the eight year veteran of the department facing multiple charges. No one came to the door. Sergeant Urbina shown here on the day he joined Precinct 7 sworn in by former constable May Walker. Records show in 2023, 42 year old Urbina was a Regular at the Starbucks off Beltway 8. When he started talking to a 17 year old barista, the two exchanged names and during this talk, records show he told her, quote, he would search for her in the police system instead of going home. Records show the team went back to Starbucks and told her co workers she didn't feel comfortable. Once Urbina left the parking lot, she then started heading home. Records go on to say on her way home, she was pulled over by Urbina during the traffic stop. Urbina asked for her Snapchat and told her, quote, just remember, you turn 18 in three weeks. The following week, according to records, this was the second location. The teenager says that sergeant pulled her over right in front of the Brunswick Lakes Community Water Park. She reportedly asked him why he didn't turn on the body camera. And according to records, the sergeant said, quote, it wasn't necessary since he wasn't conducting a traffic stop. He was just finding a way to talk to her. The next day, HPD Special Investigations Unit started working the case as part of HPD's investigation. Record shows that they looked at surveillance video from the Star and a gas station next door. Those same detectives also interviewed the person and people that the teenager reportedly text at the time when she was pulled over by the sergeants. Now, Sergeant Urbina scheduled to appear in court tomorrow. I'm Ramon Belogan, KPRC 2 News.

[Woody Overton]

You know what? His ass is in a crack and rightfully so. The, that's, you know, must have worked for him at some time. And, and here's the deal. I mean, I'm not throwing shade on constables. I love all my constable friends and like that. Generally, that's because you can't get on with the regular police department. Yeah, and there's something not. There's a lot of guys go there to retire and stuff like that, like university PDs or, or they use it as a stepping stone to get somewhere else. He's a sergeant, so he's been there for a minute. Yeah, and the days of running Britney Spears, his driver's license photo, you know, in the late 90s, just to see what she looked like or whatever. You can't do that anymore. This is the NCIC computer, National Crime Information center computer. Now, I used to be able to call, I could call one of my cop buddies and say, hey, look, can you run this plate for me? Whatever? And they would do it like if I was doing power, whatever. Right. And. But there was no record of it. Now every single time you run a plate, it's listed and they have to have a reason for it.

[Cindy Overton]

Right.

[Woody Overton]

This is trying to a 17 year old barista, which is a fancy word for person that makes coffee. Right. And the thank goodness she listened to her inner voice, which is what I tell people all the time. And she went back, she's like, oh, he told me he's gonna run on my license plate, knows where I live. Went back and tell people because he might have killed and raped her. Then he stops her again.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

Why isn't your body camera on? Oh, because I'm not on traffic stop. I just here to talk to you. What's your Snapchat? You'll be 18, three weeks.

[Cindy Overton]

That's scary.

[Woody Overton]

And then, you know, he dug through all our social media and everything else.

[Cindy Overton]

Disgusting.

[Woody Overton]

Fucking bad professional.

[Cindy Overton]

Very bad professional, bad boy.

[Woody Overton]

And it's all misdemeanors.

[Cindy Overton]

Right.

[Woody Overton]

So. But he won't be wearing a badge anymore, so he can fuck himself.

[Cindy Overton]

I would think a professional, a constable would, you know, they should make the fine higher or the time higher for people that are in a position that know better, that obviously shouldn't put this little girl at in harm's way. It should be like 10 times what a normal person would get for such behavior.

[Woody Overton]

I agree. But I think that this is the kind of dude needs a badge to feel like a man.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

And so when they strip that from him, he strip his identity. Maybe the little that he is.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

So. All right, give us something else.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay. Taking us for family matters.

[Woody Overton]

It's time for family matters.

[Cindy Overton]

Family matters. In Fresno, California on July 15th of 2025, a 36 year old named Whisper Owen and her 8 month old daughter Sandra McCarty were last seen after leaving a doctor's appointment in Fresno.

[Woody Overton]

Okay.

[Cindy Overton]

They were headed home to Elk Grove and expected to meet family later that evening. And witnesses later spotted whispers 2006 Chevy Trailblazer on a traffic camera at Atwater. Shortly after the contact was lost. So the two disappeared, the car disappeared and which obviously deeply concerned family. Because Whisper often spent time in Fresno, there was really no alarm immediately raised. So for days later, four days later, on July 19, the two were officially reported missing. Investigators reviewed surveillance and phone data and Whisper's last phone ping, her phone last pinged near an area where a vehicle search would eventually take place. As days passed, a search effort grew, including tracking phone signals and enlisting help from Adventures With Purpose, which is a nonprofit dive and sonar. Sonar team, I can't talk today. And sonar team that specializes in finding missing people in waterways. We have something similar to that down here, don't we? Not the Cajun Navy, but, like, there's a. You've used them before.

[Woody Overton]

Killian Dive, Tama. There's a lot of those different organizations.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah, the. The one I was thinking of is the one that the daddy developed when his daughter missing, like Echo Search or something.

[Woody Overton]

A lot of those organizations.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay. So on Sunday, August 17, the SUV was discovered, and it was discovered submerged in a canal beneath the bridge along Highway 120 near Oakdale in San Joaquin County. The dive team located the vehicle using sonar and pulled it from the water. Inside, they found the lifeless bodies of Whisper and Sandra. Investigators confirmed an adult and an infant were inside, like I just said. And while authorities have not officially stated identities, family members have confirmed it was them. Searchers expressed that it appeared Whispered may have been reaching towards the back seat, possibly trying to save her daughter. Like that was the position that she was in. But the discovery brought a painful mix of grief and closure. And Whisper's brother Richard said that even though the loss was devastating, knowing what happened allows the family a path to move forward for Whisper's other children, who now must learn to live without their mother and baby sister. So law enforcement agencies, including the Fresno, Fresno Police Department, San Joaquin County Sheriff's Office, and California Highway Patrol have opened investigations into how the vehicle ended up underwater. So not quite sure.

[Woody Overton]

How interesting. Yeah, I don't know how it's going to go. Right. The sad. Sad for everybody if it's crime or not. We don't know.

[Cindy Overton]

I can't tell you how many times I drove down the road and reached back to hand the kid something. And, you know, I know it.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah.

[Cindy Overton]

But the reason why I did it as a family matters is because there's been, unfortunately, so many parents or moms that have, like, driven their cars into bodies of water with their kids or just.

[Woody Overton]

Yes. Yes. Or strapped to Susan Smith, Strapped the kids in and rolled it down.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

In the water.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

So that happens. I mean, hopefully it was an accident or something.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

So let's go out to Texas. Most people don't know this about me, but I was a bit of a hoodlum when I was a boy.

[Cindy Overton]

What did your daddy used to say?

[Woody Overton]

I always said we used to think we were gonna have to go visit Woody in prison. And then he put people in prison. Yeah. But I never did anything to hurt anybody, but I did. Now, they call it like, ding dong ditch or whatever the. But back in our day, like, we put in a paper bag and light it on fire on the door front Doorsteps and ring the doorbell, bang on door and haul ass. And they come out. Of course. You see a fire, you go stomp on it. Right. So you're stomping and. Or we take a thing of pain, lean it against the door and ring the door. I mean that.

[Cindy Overton]

Like firecrackers and some someone's front yard or put railroad ties in their driveway.

[Woody Overton]

Did all that the one time. Swim. Someone isn't me. They rode around and got all these traffic cones. I mean like the barrels with the lights on it from the traffic where they were working on stuff. And put it on Main street, which to this day doesn't even have a stoplight on both ends of Main Street. In the middle of the night. Thought it'd be funny. Came back about an hour later drinking beer. And there were 18 wheelers lined up forever because there's hell.

[Cindy Overton]

Did you move the cone?

[Woody Overton]

No move the cone.

[Cindy Overton]

I mean, did Swim move the cones?

[Woody Overton]

Nope. He got away with that one too. One time they had a brand new bank with this giant fountain and we. And we filled it full of swam, filled it full of tide and it made so many bubbles it went over the roadway and closed the rain.

[Cindy Overton]

Oh, I remember too well.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah. So. But anyway, let me play another story and I kind of like playing this stuff and then talking about it afterwards. We're going to Texas. Ready for this one? Here goes.

[News Reporter]

11 year old boy is now dead after a prank ended in disaster. And a man is facing charges in the murder. Police said that Julian Guzman was playing ding dong ditch with friends just before midnight on Saturday after ringing a doorbell and running off. Police say that a witness saw a man now identified as 42 year old Gonzalo Leon Jr. Running out with a handgun and firing several rounds, hitting the little boy in the back. Mom was pronounced dead at the hospital the next day. Leon Jr. Is now facing charges for murder. Her Alex Stone is on the story. What more are we learning about this unfortunate death and the suspect? Alex?

[Alex Stone]

Yeah, we know the 11 year old boy, Kira was doing what so many of us have done when we were younger. Playing doorbell ditch, Ringing doorbells and then running away. It was almost 11 o' clock at night, 10:55 at night. And the suspect, now 42 year old Leon Gonzalez, allegedly came out of his home and fired. Now immediately. Police said this did not appear to be self defense because he ran out of the home and shot the 11 year old in the back. As the 11 year old was running away, he ran about a block or so and then collapsed and died. But they say this was not self defense, this was murder. And today that murder charge has been filed.

[News Reporter]

So this also comes as several police departments across the country are warning teens against carrying out these types of pranks. How big of an issue do you you think this is becoming, Alex?

[Alex Stone]

Well, this is a big issue because there is something called, according to police, the door kick challenge, which is now a social media challenge to doors of homes. There was actually a home in Arizona that was hit by this. You see this video right here 19 times. And this family ended up actually moving. But in the middle of the night, people believing it's a home invasion, burglary or another kind of burglary that's going down. And police departments have been warning that this can have deadly consequences of somebody coming out with a gun and shooting and killing those who are trying to kick open the door or acting like they're trying to kick open the door and that it can have a deadly consequence. So this has been a national challenge, but that's not necessarily what this was in Houston that it's believed. This was classic doorbell ditching of ringing the door, maybe knocking on the door, banging on the door and then running away. And neighbors said that they had seen the kids around doing it. This was not trying to kick open the door. This was not bashing at the door, but ringing the door late at night and the homeowner allegedly coming out and opening fire.

[News Reporter]

Yeah, times have totally changed since we were kids. Alex, appreciate you being on the story for us. Thank you.

[Woody Overton]

So there you have it.

[News Reporter]

Boy is now dead after.

[Woody Overton]

Now there's a difference. Right. The I mean this guy ran out of the house, fired his weapon, is struck the 11 year old in the back. They're right. Yeah. This is not self defense when you become the aggressor. And did he mean to shoot the 11 year old back? Probably not. But he fires rounds and he's responsible for him. But these other little are on that video out in Arizona. There's like four of them at a time, jumping up as high as I can and kicking the door. The you do that in my house, I'm going to shoot you through the door.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

I'm going to get a shotgun and I'm a blow your fucking ass away.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

And so public announcement time. Do not run with your buddies and try to cause physical damage to kick in a door. First of all, a lot of doors will give in, you know, and, and then you really setting yourself up to get shot.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

If you, but if you do it in my House. My doors, first of all aren't giving in because they're thick as. But if you do it and I wake up and I'm a light sleeper and I'm going to be armed and I am not. Because there's a difference between a doorbell ringing and knock on the door. Right. That could happen. That could happen anytime. If somebody could be broke down or whatever, need help or assistance. But I'm gonna be cautious as then. And I'm still going to be armed then. But these dudes, the little video which I couldn't see, they're showing the home in Arizona. They hit this like eight or nine times and it's on ring camera.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

And this is like four dudes at one time jumping, running, jumping as high as they can and kicking the door, trying to kick it in. You will get killed for that. There's your public service announcement today. Don't do it.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

And whether you're in the city, I mean, I'm pretty sure the further you go out in the country, the more chance you are of being shot.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

The. You come out here, you're getting killed.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

And it is what it is.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

So there's your public service now. Kids don't do that.

[Cindy Overton]

It's sad that kids can't be kids. Well, the kicking in the door thing, that's a whole other level. But the ding dong ditch, you know.

[Woody Overton]

But it's been around as long as.

[Cindy Overton]

There'S been doorbells and that should be a fun thing for kids to do.

[Woody Overton]

Not really. Not really.

[Cindy Overton]

I did it.

[Woody Overton]

Everybody. I can't say everybody did it, but it's going to piss off somebody.

[Cindy Overton]

Right, Right. But so many people and the past.

[Woody Overton]

It's like prank calling when we were kids.

[Cindy Overton]

Exactly.

[Woody Overton]

Do you have Prince Albert in a can? Yes. Better let him out. Refrigerator running. Yes. Better go catch it. Right. That's aggravating. But that's not shooting worthy.

[Cindy Overton]

No.

[Woody Overton]

So.

[Cindy Overton]

But so many kids have been shot. So many people have been killed lately doing it. I don't know why anyone would continue to do it.

[Woody Overton]

If you're kicking indoors here, you're jumping as high as you can kicking in the door, you pretty much deserve to be shot.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

Sorry.

[Cindy Overton]

I agree.

[Woody Overton]

Because the person inside the home. There's been a whole lot of people who are raped and murdered because people kicked in their doors.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

They. They didn't get inside the house by. Well, I mean some of them open the door, but naturally a lot of them got in by breaking in. You have a right to defend your home. And for even being fearful of your life being threatened or something happening. Right. You might be coming in to rape my kids. I don't know. But I bet you I'm not trying to find out.

[Cindy Overton]

Right.

[Woody Overton]

So it's, it's not a shame for that. I mean them for doing it. So there's why you got two public service announcements today.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

Or three, maybe I forget, but you have anything else?

[Cindy Overton]

No.

[Woody Overton]

We hope you all have a wonderful, wonderful day. Thank you for liking and listening and sharing and all the good podcast for 313 RLRC tip. Hashtag just for Bradley. Hashtag just for AO. All right, Patreon convicts, Patreon or subscribers through patreon go to patreon.com type in real life Real crime convicts are subscribers through the app the Real life Real crime community app, which you can download for free in the App store. I check it first every day and you go there convicts like Patreons or subscribers commercial free early releases, etc. And you're going to get it it on Thursday. Everybody else will get it Saturday.

[Cindy Overton]

Yes.

[Woody Overton]

Right. All right. I'm Woody Everson.

[Cindy Overton]

I'm Cindy Overton.

[Woody Overton]

You host True Crime. Time for this Thursday. We'll holler at y' all later. Peace.