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Woody Overton
Hello everybody and welcome to this episode of True Crime. Time for Tuesday, September 9, 2025. And I'm Woody Overton.
Cindy Overton
I'm Cindy Overton.
Woody Overton
Doing it again. Doing it right. Nice, nice cool weather outside this morning. And y' all got to hear WL yesterday because we had actually pre recorded something by accident and so thank him for coming on the show briefly, although it was and hashtag just Bradley. Hashtag just for AO continue calling you tips. Every time we drop an episode, it goes crazy. Bunch more tips. Yeah, y' all know who you are that are calling them in and we appreciate it. Hashtag just for Haley is coming. I'm gonna talk to Ms. Barbara this week if we don't hear anything back from them before Friday. And then of course, hashtag just for Ms. Barbara Blunt. So that being said, thank y' all for liking and listening and sharing and all the comments and everything else, right?
Cindy Overton
Absolutely.
Woody Overton
All right, let's get down to some true crime. Time for Taco Tuesday.
Cindy Overton
Taco Tuesday.
Woody Overton
Ladies first. What do you have?
Cindy Overton
We're going to Portland, Oregon.
Woody Overton
What type of store? It's time. It's timely matters. Family matters.
Cindy Overton
So back in April of 2024 in southeast Portland, a man named Joseph Washington, who sometimes cared for his 20 month old son at his girlfriend's house, became overwhelmed when the toddler started vomiting heavily. And after being advised to seek medical Help. Washington chose to take the child back to his mother instead. The mother then rushed the child to the hospital, where the doctors there discovered a perforation of the small intestine, which was caused by blunt force trauma. The injury was so severe, the child likely would have died by the next morning without the urgent treatment. But during the investigation, Washington's girlfriend revealed that he had admitted. That Washington had admitted to punching the toddler twice because he was upset. On August 28th of this year, Judge Christopher Ram Ross sentenced Washington to 10 years in prison after he was convicted of first degree assault, third degree assault, and first degree criminal mistreatment. And so thank goodness he's getting. He got all of that. But he beat his child, took him home to his mama for his mom to deal with, and essentially left him for dead.
Woody Overton
Yeah, thanks, Mom. Yeah. Hey, mom is your problem. Yeah, Right.
Cindy Overton
Take him.
Woody Overton
I can make the baby, but make.
Cindy Overton
Him and I can beat him. Perforate is a small intestine, but you take care of the big stuff.
Woody Overton
Absolutely. Well, there you have it. Family.
Cindy Overton
At least he got that sentence.
Woody Overton
Yep. Yep. That's a good. Wow.
Cindy Overton
I know.
Woody Overton
It's a horrible, good story. All right, another little short one for you. And you know, people have all kinds of pets. Yeah, right. But what about a spider monkey?
Cindy Overton
Like the.
Woody Overton
No, this thing right here.
Cindy Overton
Yeah. I've seen a guy on TikTok that has a spider monkey as a pet. And it's weird.
Woody Overton
Yep. Kind of strange, I would think. Well, we're going to the great state of Tennessee and town named Portland and this dude got a spider monkey. His name is Joseph McDormand and he is 37 years old, as reported by WBLT TV. And he called the University of Tennessee Veterinary hospital on Thursday, August 7, and he wanted an urgent appointment for his pet monkey.
Cindy Overton
Okay.
Woody Overton
Well, it's like LSU Veterinary Schools kind of famous and everything, right? So, well, they tell him, you know what? The. The clinic doesn't open until 7:30. He didn't like that.
Cindy Overton
No. It wasn't good enough.
Woody Overton
No, it was not good. In fact, he told me, he said, and I quote, if my monkey dies, I'm coming up there to blow the whole building up.
Cindy Overton
Oh, my go gosh.
Woody Overton
So he tells the operator the. The. Then they were like, you know what?
Cindy Overton
Don't even go off yourself.
Woody Overton
Yeah. Go yourself. Don't even bring your monkey to our hospital. You're not allowed here. Right. But then, of course, they reported it to the cops, and the cops traced the call and found that, of course, McDormand was the person who made it and responsible for making the threat. And now he got cuffed and stuffed in his face and charges of harassment and making a threat of mass violence. Right. So this guy evidently has several spider monkeys. He's got an account on YouTube with several videos of a man with his pet spider monkeys. And one video is titled baby monkey. He showed off his trailer park home. And. But. So spider monkeys are legal to own as a pet in the state of Tennessee, while the ownership of apes and, you know, and chimpanzees and like that.
Cindy Overton
Yeah, gorillas.
Woody Overton
And who wants. Who wants a gorilla in the house? Yeah. But hey, you know what? You can't see my monkey. I'm gonna blow your up.
Cindy Overton
Yeah, yeah.
Woody Overton
Okay. Well, don't. Don't come here, sir.
Cindy Overton
Sorry.
Woody Overton
And by the way, by the way, motherfucker, we're sending the cops to your house.
Cindy Overton
Good for them.
Woody Overton
Yeah. So you can't be saying that shit nowadays.
Cindy Overton
No.
Woody Overton
You look at. You got.
Cindy Overton
I have got a family matter.
Woody Overton
All right, it's time for family matters.
Cindy Overton
We are going to Columbus, Georgia. I've never gone to Columbus, Georgia. On the evening of September 2nd of 2025, someone reported hearing, like, the sound like, of a baby crying. But they weren't. It was like the faint sound of a baby crying coming from the Budget Inn and Suites. Well, coming from behind the Budget Inn and Suites in Columbus. And so officers immediately reported to the scene, of course, afraid of what they were going to find, and they searched the area and discovered a newborn infant inside of a dumpster. This happens way too much.
Woody Overton
It's crazy.
Cindy Overton
So a little boy was immediately taken to Piedmont Columbus Regional Hospital, and he was stabilized and placed in the care of the Department of Family and Children's Services. A short time later, investigators identified Zinnia Hernandez, who is 22 years old and she was a motel guest. And they identified her as the child's mother. During questioning, Hernandez admitted she had given birth to the baby earlier that day in the motel room bathtub and that she intentionally placed the newborn along with the placenta and the umbilical cord into a trash can. She sealed it inside a second bag before abandoning it in the dumpster when where the baby remained for approximately five and a half to six hours. Nice for that baby to survive. In a plastic bag. Double plastic bag, meant to survive. Hernandez was arrested on September 4th and charged. I just can't imagine that. Charged with multiple offenses, criminal attempt to commit murder, child abandonment, first degree cruelty to children, and reckless conduct. Her bond was set at $20,000. And of course, they say, reflecting the seriousness of the situation and the public's concern after the case gained widespread attention on social media, that that bond isn't set. It's like $2,000 to get out of jail. I mean, I know Everybody doesn't have $2,000 just to go and get out, but should it be a million dollar or no bond? Authorities have taken the opportunity to remind the public about Georgia's safe haven law, which allows parents to legally surrender newborns up to 30 days old. And they of course, have the designated safe locations such as hospitals, police stations or fire departments without fear prosecution. And they can leave their child with the staff. And the infant is currently in foster care, receiving ongoing medical care and protections from DC DFCs to ensure safety and well being.
Woody Overton
Okay, this is a public service announcement for Woody Overton. Do not give your wife stories about babies and plastic bags in a dumpster and make her cry at 7:30 in the morning.
Cindy Overton
I got it together.
Woody Overton
I didn't. I thought you were just taking a pause and I looked up and you were crying. All right, so let's do another. It's time for family matters. You know, I know the US Postal Service is on the downhill side of things, right, because of emails and everything else. And I don't even know how much a stamp costs nowadays, but I remember when they were 10 cents.
Cindy Overton
Right.
Woody Overton
Well, how much are they now?
Cindy Overton
I honestly don't know. I think they're like 57 cents.
Woody Overton
Yeah, well, you know, still, it's kind of a prestigious job if you get it. Federal employee, good benefits, decent pay, retirement and all that stuff. But what do you think should be the one requirement for that job?
Cindy Overton
Driving record, not being a pedophile. Maybe be organized, can multitask.
Woody Overton
All right. United States Postal Service.
Cindy Overton
Okay.
Woody Overton
I think you should have to be a U.S. citizen.
Cindy Overton
Oh, well, that would drive so obvious it's not worth saying.
Woody Overton
All right, well, the. We're going out to D.C. washington, D.C. i'd love to go back there one day if they get the crime straight. So they got a formal postal worker and he's now been convicted of stealing checks worth more than $1.6 million from the mail in Washington, D.C. you know what he did with it? He did a lot of stuff with it, but one of the things he.
Cindy Overton
Did with it sent it home to his family.
Woody Overton
Yeah, he spent $100,000 of the money at strip clubs. Yeah, $100,000.
Cindy Overton
Why not?
Woody Overton
I bet the strippers love to see that motherfucker coming in the Door. Right. It's. According to federal prosecutors. His name is Hashicaro Sila Muchumba, who's 45 of D.C. he also blew a bunch of money on traveling or trips abroad. Yep. And book stays at luxury hotels. Right. All stolen checks before they busted him. And they, they arrested him while he was trying to get out the country. And this is in September. Well, back in September 2023. Now when they busted him, Machumba had $2,000 cash inside his luggage and they got him at Dulles international airport in Virginia before he was boarding a flight to Zambia in southern Africa. Now, because he went to trial, Chumba has been sentenced to five years and six months in prison on multiple charges including bank fraud, mail fraud and this the cord into the U.S. attorney's office for the District of Columbia this September 3rd in a news release now in court filings ahead of citizen prosecutors wrote. But Chumba was consistent, devious and confident in executing his fraud scheme, which enabled him to get away with his theft again and again for years. I mean, they got their own postal police. They can't figure it out. Yeah, think about all these poor waiting on checks.
Cindy Overton
Exactly.
Woody Overton
Or little Susie's waiting on a car from grandma with a 20 billion bill in or whatever.
Cindy Overton
Exactly.
Woody Overton
Say the course's defense attorneys didn't respond. This is in the Miami Herald or they declined to comment. Now, Machamba is from Zambia and he got his US Citizenship revoked after prosecutors said he became a naturalized citizen in May of 2022. So I guess he got away with it for a year. Or maybe he was working as postal deliver postman before he got a citizenship. Who, who knows? Yeah, but they also got him for lying on his U. S. Citizenship application by saying he has not committed any crimes. And Machamba became a US citizen during this nearly three year scheme between December 20 and March 2023. So you can become a postman if you're not a citizen. And.
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Woody Overton
During this time when he was a letter carrier and Friendship Heights, which is a neighborhood in Northwest D.C. so in that span of time he stole U.S. treasury checks and checks belonging to private parties from more than 30 mail routes.
Cindy Overton
That's crazy.
Woody Overton
Machamba deposited checks, sometimes while wearing his US Postal uniform, into bank accounts he had under his control. And they got him on natural surveillance foots captured him withdrawing money linked to the stolen checks from ATM machines. And you know, I got him as ass. Three surveillance photos included in court documents show Machamo wearing USPS or United States Post Service clothing while withdrawing the cash. Now, before his arrest at Dulles International, prosecutors met with Machamba and his lawyer and gave him the opportunity to accept a pre indictment plea deal. Right?
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
Well, Machama said fuck you and made plans to haul ass to Zambia. In the government sentencing memo, prosecutors wrote that in order to facilitate his scheme, Machamba was able to persuade at least one other poster carrier, and probably more to assist him in stealing US Mail. So they're all on the lookouts when the checks started running, right? Yeah, we just split them up. You see how many you can get? I see how many I can get. So the federal jury found Machamba guilty in March. The conspiracy commit theft of mail, bank fraud, theft of mail, bank fraud, engaging a monetary transaction and property derived from specified unlawful activity, unlawful procurement of citizenship or naturalization. And in his defense, Machumbas, however, he says his legal counsel wrote in a sentencing memo on his behalf that his criminal conduct was an isolated episode in an otherwise law abiding life, not part of an entrenched pattern of criminality. His attorneys explained that Bachama has extraordinary family circumstances and several relatives to depend on him emotionally and financially, including his parents who live in Zambia and the.
Cindy Overton
Strippers and five star hotels.
Woody Overton
They said Mr. Manchaba's life has been defined by his steadfast commitment to caring for his loved ones, often at personal sacrifice. This is not a case where incarceration would merely inconvenience family members. Rather, it would dismantle a vital support network and leave vulnerable relatives both in the United States and abroad without the guidance, emotional stability and financial assistance they have long relied upon. I'm sure the judge like you yourself, yeah, literally. Now Machamba is required to pay $651,068.35 in restitution to the victims and forfeit his ill guiding gains of $1,273,403.36 and his ass is going to be deported.
Cindy Overton
Well, what about the people that were cashing the checks for him? I mean, he has to show id.
Woody Overton
You have to, but I don't know, I'm sure he had a fraud scheme. You can't. I can't walk up to the counter with Susie Jo's check and just cash.
Cindy Overton
I know. So there have to be.
Woody Overton
Probably endorsed it over to him whatever they look he's wearing. Who doesn't trust the fucking postman, right?
Cindy Overton
So United Health Care called on Friday and said is Woody Overton Mr. Woodrow Overton Jr. Available? And I was like no. And they're like well, are you authorized to speak on his half for medical whatever? And I said yes, I am, but I'm not going to. I said you're going to take my word that I can speak on behalf. You're just going to give me all of his information just because I tell you so I said I'm so sorry. I might have in the past had this conversation with you, but in the current date I don't know what you're going to do. It's just like. I understand ma'. Am. Like just go to the back of the card and here's the phone number. You're going to find that on the back of the card and ask for this department. But I understand you don't want to talk about it. I'm think who does? Like I'm just going to tell you I could talk about it.
Woody Overton
They want us to buy more insurance, huh?
Cindy Overton
I guess so, huh. They wanted to schedule an appointment for.
Woody Overton
You, but probably sell more insurance.
Cindy Overton
I guess them diagnose you with something else.
Woody Overton
No, I mean that's what I'm saying.
Cindy Overton
Schedule an appointment. I don't know this is. But I was very frustrated by that. This doesn't have a category. Category. We're going to Georgia. Gwinnett County, Georgia. And on an early July morning, officers received a 911 call around 6am and the call came from the parking lot of Cannon United Methodist Church, which is located on West Gin House Road. And they reported a baby had been found. So when police arrived, they discovered 28 year old Oscar Alexis Cruz dead in the church parking lot. Investigators quickly determined the crime began hours earlier when an armed invasion of Cruz's home on Gin Blossom Circle happened between the hours of 1:30 and 3:00am the suspect was identified as 34 year old Raymond Cooper and he forced his way inside at gunpoint. And once inside, he kidnapped Cruz, restrained him with duct tape and then drove him to the church. And then at the church in the parking lot, Cooper executed Cruz and he shot him approximately 17 times. According to the arrest warrants, the evidence showed that shots struck Cruz's Head, arms and torso. After the months long investigation, Cooper was arrested in DeKalb county and faces multiple charges included malice, murder, felony murder, home invasion, kidnapping, armed robbery, aggravated assault and more. And he remains held without bond at the Gwinnett County Jail. The motive for the crime hasn't been disclosed and authorities are still investigating whether anyone else was involved. But Cruz is said to be being remembered by his loved ones as a devoted father. And he leaves behind a four year old son. So there's a GoFundMe that describes him as one of the sweetest souls you could ever meet. And his family and friends are supporting each other and the grief.
Woody Overton
Hate that poem. And you know, think of all these stories we do about stuff like that that they never say. Not. I mean, this is not funny. I'm just popped in my head. They never say this guy was, was an. He stole money out of the US Post office and went to strip clubs. No, yeah, I know, but I mean, I guess you should talk about the dead anyway, so. But I'm gonna talk about somebody who was dead. We're going to Minnesota and we don't do these kind of cases often. All right, so this guy in Minnesota, he spent 27 years in prison, but let me tell you what he did. Okay? So in 1998, a jury convicted this guy's name is Hooper of premeditated murder, felony murder while committing burglary and felony murder while committing kidnapping in connection with the death of 77 year old and Prasan Niac. His conviction, they got the witnesses and stuff that the main witness was Testimony from woman 1 woman in police found in some jailhouse snitches. Right. So police found Presniac's body in April 1998 in a cardboard box wrapped with Christmas lights in a closet in our Minneapolis apartment. Her ankles, nose, mouth, wrist and head were bound and her body was wrapped in garbage bags, blankets and bedding. Her cause of death was ruled as asphyxiation. And she died two weeks to a month before police found her body. Right. Hooper received three life sentences with the possibility of release after 30 years. Now this where it gets interesting. In 2020, a judge granted his request to vacate two of the first degree murder charges. After he argued he was wrongfully convicted and sentenced for three counts first degree murder against the same person. And I. You. I don't know how the they missed that. Yeah, I mean, I understand charging with everything that you can, but you only killed one person, right? Right.
Cindy Overton
Yeah, but you kill him three different ways.
Woody Overton
Yeah, well, I mean, there's aggravating circumstances. Minnesota does not have the death penalty. The. I mean, that should have been. So now let me tell you the Paul Harvey would say the rest of the story. All right, so Hooper State District Court Judge Marchiao has now vacated Brian Hooper Senior's first degree murder conviction, and he was released Thursday morning from the Stillwater Correctional Facility, which is in the Great North. And this is according to the Great North Innocent Project. They said today the courts have affirmed with Brian Hooper, his family, his loved ones and his advocates have always known Mr. Hooper is an innocent man. This is according to the Hennepin County Attorney Mary Morty, who said it is our duty as prosecutors to hold the correct individuals responsible for their actions. And that duty demands that we acknowledge our mistakes and make things right as quickly as we can. So I'll tell you what happened. But when they let him out of prison, Hooper reunited with his children and planned to enjoy a meal with them and spend time with family. And that's according to the Innocent Project. He also plans to make his home for now in the Twin Cities area where his children live. So what happened was that female, that was the witness against him. Guess what?
Cindy Overton
She'd be lying.
Woody Overton
Not only did she lie, she confessed that she did the murder.
Cindy Overton
Oh, no.
Woody Overton
Right. And the other jailhouse informants that testified against him, who knows what the. They got. They. They recanted their testimony a long time ago. So that. That is actually a win for justice in a different way that Woody Overton likes. I don't like anyone being falsely in prison. And this dude spent 27 years. That's up.
Cindy Overton
That is true.
Woody Overton
So the. The woman who has confessed to the killing is in prison in Georgia for an assault related crime and will be released in about four years. But I'm sure they're gonna. They're gonna hammer her ass. Yeah. Yeah. So hopefully. See you never give up. Never surrender.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
Even if you're going for justice, like in cold cases or if you're truly innocent, don't give up. But this. This just goes to show that Ms. Barbara Blunt's case in Bradley and AO's case can be solved. But people will talk sooner or later.
Cindy Overton
Sooner or later they will. It's all in. I mean, it was not a religious show, but I'll all done in Dark comes to light. That's not really religious. But. But God's will and God's time is. But I believe that.
Woody Overton
I'm glad he's out. I'm glad he's out.
Cindy Overton
I know. Me too.
Woody Overton
Wow. It's time for family matters.
Cindy Overton
Got a family matters out of Muncie, Indiana.
Woody Overton
There you go.
Cindy Overton
So on June 19th of 2019, 25 year old De Morica Turner was involved in a domestic incident. There was an argument and he threw his girlfriend over his shoulder and into the path of an oncoming train. So witnesses on the train reported seeing him toss his girlfriend in front of a speeding locomotive. And upon investigation, prosecutors charged him with attempted murder, aggravated battery and domestic battery by means of a deadly weapon. Turner initially resisted taking responsibility and he told authorities that he had grabbed his girlfriend only to prevent her from standing on the other side of the tracks. But he insisted that he did not intend to hurt her. He was in fact saving her. However, video and witness testimony contradiction contradicted his version of events and pointed towards a deliberate attack. So this case goes to trial and it took the jury about 30 minutes to reach their verdict. And so on July 30th of this year, Turner was found guilty on all counts. And he has just recently had his sentencing hearing and he was sentenced to three. 36 years in Indiana Department of Corrections. I know, 36 years for attempted murder.
Woody Overton
And it's like the D with the postal worker. He only gets like five years but he's got to pay the money back, which he's never going to do because it went up when his strippers g strings do.
Cindy Overton
Do you get on a payment plan? Like how do you.
Woody Overton
Well, they're going to see 75% of your nickel an hour you're making for the five years they never getting that money back. But I don't know, 36 years, this doesn't seem like quite long enough to me. But you know what, this one is crazy. It's time for family matters. And this is definitely another family matters, which is crazy. But that's a public service announcement again for me because I'm about to make Cindy cry.
Cindy Overton
Oh, no.
Woody Overton
All right. Going to Texas old tea house. And this actually involves a cop, but not for the reasons that you might think. Right. So this, they got a cop in Texas, he went on shifted, went on duty, gets off duty and he goes home. And when he gets home, he didn't see his wife and their nine year old kid, but he heard noises. And so his name is, I don't even know how to pronounce this. E H A N I R E E Hanary. And he's a police officer close to where he lived in China Grove, Texas. And he said he got home from the night shift and he went to the Bathroom And a bit later he heard a scream come from the bedroom. And when he went to the bedroom he tried to go in but the door was locked.
Cindy Overton
Okay.
Woody Overton
All right. So being a true cop, he kicked that bitch in and he went into the room and he found his wife Medina on top of their son holding a knife. And she then stabbed herself and got into a struggle with her husband. She said this is what you want. And this was. She told her husband the tussle and he drags her away and from the bedroom and then he calls police. Right. So let me go back to the beginning of it. And police have now charged Wilma jamitsa Medina who's 50 years old with capital murder in the case. You know why? Because the boy, David Henira Medina who she stabbed their son was taken to the hospital with stab wounds on bott sides of his neck.
Cindy Overton
Holy mess.
Woody Overton
And he died at the hospital. So the Universal City Police detective David Fawcett said I don't think anything could have prepared our first responders of the city for what they saw. He said it was devastating. And back to it. It was around 5am Wednesday when police were dispatched to the home for disturbance. And the child's father who is Isosa in Henry said his wife has stabbed his son. Right. And when the cops got there they found her grabbing. They found him grabbing Medina's leg as she lay on the bed with blood stains on her shirt. And while they were trying to secure the residence she gets up and went to the kitchen and grabs another knife and stabbed herself on self in the leg. It's according to KSAT tv. So officers then trying to stop her from hurting herself, they fighting with her and they were eventually were able to take the knife away from her. And during this time she said I cannot live without him and let me die. It's crazy.
Cindy Overton
So why did she kill him?
Woody Overton
I'll tell you in just a second. The when she spoke to officers, Medina said or made comments about people trying to enter her home and claim she was being followed. So she was arrested and booked into the jail and she is being held on six hundred thousand dollar bond.
Cindy Overton
No, that's a bond.
Woody Overton
Fifty years old and got a nine year old but dead baby now. Yeah, that's not a bond for capital murder. $600,000. She have no bond.
Cindy Overton
She should.
Woody Overton
I don't even have to look at my account, my chart up there and.
Cindy Overton
Know Texas got the death well 36,000 or whatever I said earlier or 6,004 whatever it was that minimal bond for the baby in the dumpster. Like, I mean, that's not capital murder.
Woody Overton
That baby's alive.
Cindy Overton
I don't care.
Woody Overton
Capital murder. And his mama didn't stab him in the neck twice.
Cindy Overton
She just double bagged him in a garbage bag.
Woody Overton
Okay, well, at least that baby's alive.
Cindy Overton
You're right.
Woody Overton
It all. It all sucks. And it is what it is, right? So the, you know, I don't know. Let's do a little light one to end the show. The I say light. I used to love to work dope and, you know that. The. Let's see if I can get this audio to play and see what agents found hidden in cigar boxes.
Cindy Overton
Well, it was about 20 pounds of cocaine. This led to the arraignment this morning in Manhattan of two suspected smugglers.
Woody Overton
Detectives say the hall was seized from Jose Leonardo's home in Cypress Hills.
Cindy Overton
The drugs said to be hidden in secret compartments inside the boxes.
Woody Overton
Leonardo and another man, Yankee Gil, are charged with criminal drug possession. It's pretty ingenious when you see it, right? But, I mean, they're legit wooden cigar boxes and they had a layer wrapped cigars on top. And the cocaine's underneath the. You know, it's the street value. What they got was $300,000. And they were broken down, hidden in 45 different cigar boxes. Right. So naturally, the investigation was conducted by the dea, the New York division, and with the assistance from the SNP's investigator unit. So during the investigation, the special narcotics prosecutor for the city of New York said that on April 16, 2025, agents tracked Leonardo as he drove to 33 Crosby Avenue, the residence where the drugs were found. And later that days, the agents searched 33 Crosby Avenue and with a search warrant and open three cardboard boxes, which contained a total of 45 wooden cigar boxes filled with cigars. But they pried off the tops of the. Prying off the wooden paneling. On the underside of the boxes, the agents found thin bricks of cocaine. And similar bricks were also recovered from Leonardo's bedroom. The d. A laboratory analysis on the drug C's, of course, identified it as nine kilograms of cocaine. It's a lot. And nearly one kilogram of ketamine. Yeah. Horse train class. Right. They said large shipments of narcotics are often creatively concealed. In this case, cocaine was hidden underneath real cigars. Drug shipments such as this are typically transported to a location where they can be repackaged into smaller amounts and distributed to multiple locations. And considerable effort went into shielding the cocaine from detection and preventing the loss of profits that result from law Enforcement seizures. The second defendant, Gill, was arrested a month early after a meeting with Leonardo at the residence. And they say they stopped Gill and recovered a thin brick of cocaine that was similar in size and appearance to the bricks found in the cigar boxes in April. They said the seizure of this massive quantity of cocaine makes Brooklyn safer and delivers a heavy blow to drug trafficking networks that poison our streets. Good for them for getting it. The. You know, they're always gonna. They use that method. No long telling how long they use it. But just like on Sheriff R. And I said on Ms. Barbara Blunt's case and. And on AO's case and Bradley's case and all that, the bad guys got to get lucky every day. Cops only got to get lucky once.
Cindy Overton
That's right.
Woody Overton
Right. And then this wasn't their day. So the. They ratted him out. And what they did, I can assure you, is where they. He told them and said, look, this how we're doing it, and this is one our next shipments coming in. Etc. I don't know how his homie didn't know that he'd got arrested unless they arrested him and didn't say it. And they let him back out to follow him over there. And he's getting the sweetheart of a deal.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
His other buddy will be canceling Christmas.
Cindy Overton
How do you feel about that?
Woody Overton
About What?
Cindy Overton
I know Cas helped you a lot, but when CIS. What is the CA?
Woody Overton
I have no idea.
Cindy Overton
Okay. CIS, certified.
Woody Overton
CI is a confidential informant.
Cindy Overton
Yeah, the informants. But I know that they help you, but when they don't, when they're part of the crime and they get no time for it, like zero. And they literally have.
Woody Overton
That's the deal. Deal you got to make with the devil. Because, like, you know, most time you're stopping the user or maybe somebody like that that has like, one large package of cocaine, and then you're like, okay, you can. I've done this a thousand times. You can help yourself. Rat it out, give up the big fish, and we could work together. Right. And. And then if they agree to it, a lot of times you go ahead and book them in for whatever it is. Like, he. He got booked in, and then they were sitting the cell, and they're like that, I want help. I don't want to spend the rest of my life in prison. And then you need to let them out, make them sign the paperwork. Confidential paperwork that you can't break any laws. And Da, da, da. Other than what we're working on. Right. We give you the dope to Transport or you go over to make a buy for us or whatever it may be and you use them and use them and use them. And every time that you give them mark money it's like to go in and make the buy and you search them before you give them the money and you search when they come out, make sure they don't have any doubt that you don't know about on them. And then you keep working and as you work it and you, you don't hit that house. Right. Then you wait three or four days or however long until the next weekend or next ledge ship date and then you hit it. So they don't know your CI is the one that ratted them out.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
And then you get the bigger fish. Don't just get the user, you get the bigger fish.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
How do I feel about it? Necessary evil.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
How do I feel about people flipping the murder cases? That's what to get immunity.
Cindy Overton
That's more specifically.
Woody Overton
Well, it and Sammy the Bull Regan who killed 30 some people. But the government wanted the Teflon dine so bad they let him go on it. Yeah. So the. It is what it is their decision.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
I mean I think, you know, at least somebody went to prison. Right.
Cindy Overton
I guess it's just hard to know that they're not going to get any type of punishment for their actions.
Woody Overton
They give them, they get punishment. I mean, you know, sometimes they get witness relocation program or they get five years in a secure facility and then they get released or whatever. It varies every case. You don't ever know what it's going to be.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
So that's that. And that's what I have for today. You got anything else?
Cindy Overton
I don't have anything else.
Woody Overton
Then I hope everybody's enjoying the weather. Football season started for real. The NFL and as it was pretty, pretty good games. The, you know, the NFL and college, you always got all the mistakes the first week. Just over and over and over again. This is stupid. And, but the NFL, they, you know, they play a lot of pre season games and so I'm not saying you don't have more mistakes than you do later in the year, but most of the games were pretty clean and pretty interesting. So dove season started. We had a good time on our hunt this weekend. My shoulders raw. I don't think I've ever shot that much.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
But it's cooling off.
Cindy Overton
Yes. I want to thank Kimmy and Tim for.
Woody Overton
Yes.
Cindy Overton
Their support and guidance in LA's first triathlon.
Woody Overton
Yep, yep, yep. That was awesome. And Lafayette, this weekend. And then Jason swi. And then we're supposed to be coming in for the LSU SLU game. And Jason, I ain't got to tell you, but we're not going to make it. And. And Rock and Snow are no longer in the student guests in the studio today. They went to their home and WL is upstairs doing school.
Cindy Overton
It's true.
Woody Overton
All right.
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Woody Overton
All. Please continue to call in your tips. Three one, three rlrc Tip boy. We're gonna do it. Of course, with no response. If you listen to last week episode, I had our attorney, Thomas Davenport, the who's just the best. Send a public information request for all not just related to these two cases. Every confidentiality agreement they may have ever done, of course we have gotten as a response. But I can promise you Tommy's not going to let it go. It's going to end up in a court ring.
Cindy Overton
There's no time frame like when you have a. Like that you have to disclose when you do a public information.
Woody Overton
It's not a set thing, but they have to give you reasons and stuff like that. And they haven't done anything. But we'll end up. We'll take them to court. Take them to court. Not afraid. Tommy Davenport certainly in afraid if y' all need an attorney for whatever reason. He's also a professor of law.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
And a super great guy, but. All right. So just stay tuned to that. Keep calling in your tips. It's coming down the pipe, I can promise you. And I'm Woody Overton. I'm Cindy Overton host a true crime time for this Tuesday, September 9th Hollyer Peace.
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In this episode of True Crime Time For, Woody and Cindy Overton take listeners on a tour of brutal, bizarre, and sometimes darkly humorous true crime stories from across the U.S. They discuss heartbreaking cases—from child endangerment and a newborn left in a dumpster, to wrongful convictions overturned, postal fraud, and an ingenious cocaine smuggling attempt. The hosts bring their signature empathy, banter, and insider perspectives, especially focusing on the importance of advocacy, fighting for the wrongfully accused, and reminding the community to stay alert and keep sending in tips.
[02:46 – 04:44]
“He beat his child, took him home to his mama… and essentially left him for dead.” — Cindy [04:32]
[05:06 – 08:14]
“You can't be saying that shit nowadays.” — Woody [08:07]
[08:33 – 12:15]
“That baby survived. In a plastic bag. Double plastic bag, meant to survive.” — Cindy [10:16]
[12:18 – 23:24]
“Who doesn’t trust the fucking postman, right?” — Woody [23:39]
“Do you get on a payment plan? ... They never getting that money back.” — Cindy [35:48]
[40:00 – 41:14]
[36:32 – 41:14]
“Fifty years old and got a nine-year-old but dead baby now. That’s not a bond for capital murder.” — Woody [40:27]
[27:36 – 33:35]
“Don’t give up. … This just goes to show that Barbara Blunt’s case and Bradley and AO’s case can be solved. But people will talk sooner or later.” — Woody [33:00]
[33:47 – 35:34]
[41:40 – 47:29]
“That’s the deal you’ve got to make with the devil.” — Woody [46:04]
On Safe Haven Laws:
“Authorities have taken the opportunity to remind the public about Georgia’s Safe Haven Law...” — Cindy [11:21]
On Sentencing Inequality:
“He only gets like five years but he’s got to pay the money back, which he’s never going to do because it went up when his strippers g-strings do.” — Woody [35:34]
Emotional Realness:
“Do not give your wife stories about babies and plastic bags in a dumpster and make her cry at 7:30 in the morning.” — Woody [11:55]
On Fighting for Justice:
“Never give up, never surrender… Even if you’re going for justice, like in cold cases, or if you’re truly innocent, don’t give up.” — Woody [32:59]
The episode closes with Woody and Cindy reflecting on the importance of vigilance, the heartbreak in these cases, and their dedication to cold case advocacy. Listeners are urged to continue submitting tips and to remember that justice—though slow—is possible, thanks to persistence and community effort.
“Cops only got to get lucky once.” — Woody [45:05]
For ongoing updates and to submit tips:
Call: 313-RLRC-TIP
This episode is a testament to the emotional and legal complexities of real-life crime—combining dark truths, hope for justice, and the vital role of community and investigative persistence.