Overtime – Episode #712: Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, Michael Moynihan, Dan Farah

Summary

Real Time with Bill Maher: Overtime – Episode #712

Guests: Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, Michael Moynihan, Dan Farah
Date: November 4, 2025
Episode Theme:
A spirited panel discussion on government secrecy, UAPs (unidentified aerial phenomena), wealth, political accountability, and the intersection of faith and the unknown—a classic Real Time blend of contemporary politics and provocative cultural observations.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Self-Driving Cars and Public Acceptance

• Main Question: Are people ready to accept deaths caused by autonomous vehicles?
• Panel Take:
  • (01:22) Maher notes that while society accepts deaths from human error, acceptance of AI-caused fatalities is controversial but “this is where cars are going.”
  • Panelists note fatal crashes by autonomous vehicles are less frequent, but scrutinized due to novelty.
  • Insight: The inevitability of autonomous vehicles is acknowledged, but the psychological barrier lingers.

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2. Government Secrecy and UAPs: Bipartisanship & Transparency

• Dan Farah’s Film:
  • (01:43) Dan Farah: “It’s probably how bipartisan the topic really is. Leaders from both parties can’t agree on anything, but they agree on this being a serious important issue.”
  • Farah’s documentary brings to light increasing bipartisan seriousness around UAPs.
• MTG on Information Gap:
  • (01:53) Marjorie Taylor Greene: “I’d love to know more about it, but we’re not told anything about it.”
  • Despite hearings, representatives feel left in the dark, indicating ongoing government obfuscation.
• Rubio Praised:
  • (02:07) Maher and Greene praise Senator Rubio for his “adult” take and willingness to place reputation at risk in pursuit of UAP transparency.
  • Dan Farah: (02:59) “Rubio put his reputation on the line to get in front of this topic… because he thinks it’s in the best interest of the American people.”

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3. MTG’s Reputation & Controversies

• Jewish Space Laser Claim Clarified:
  • (03:36–04:54)
    • Maher presses MTG to clarify if she ever said “Jewish space laser.”
    • Marjorie Taylor Greene unequivocally denies it:
      • (03:41) “No, I never did.”
      • She explains her original post referenced technology and did not mention Judaism; the Rothschild reference was, she claims, ignorant of religious identity.
      • (04:33) “Back then, I didn’t even know the Rothschilds were Jewish.”
    • Maher acknowledges media distortion but expresses ongoing skepticism about “the fuller version.”

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4. Wealth, Billionaires, and Giving Back

• Billie Eilish’s Call for Philanthropy:
  • (05:05–05:43)
    • Maher cites Billie Eilish calling for billionaires to give away money, then muses: “When you get to $995 million, no one wants to stop.”
• MTG on Taxes and Wealth:
  • (05:43) Marjorie Taylor Greene: “I’m a big believer in low taxes or even no taxes. I think that would be great. So I don’t think just because someone is successful, you punish them.”
  • Maher questions the societal risk of extreme riches, referencing Rockefeller and Musk: “One person can’t really have that much. And it just does skew the system…”
  • MTG counters: People, in general, want as much as they can get.
• Crypto Scandal and Political Influence:
  • (06:34–07:29)
    • Panelist highlights Trump’s pardon of a “billionaire crypto guy” involved with Trump family business and calls out public apathy: “It’s an incredible outrage…”
    • Maher shrugs, noting it falls down the priority list amid mounting issues.

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5. Intelligence, Media, and UAPs

• Suppression of UAP Stories:
  • (07:32–07:53) Dan Farah claims elements in intelligence agencies “have an influence on mainstream media and encourage them not to cover this topic.”
  • He says whistleblowers fear for their lives—(08:10) “Yes, 100%. … Threats against people’s life have been used…”
• Who’s Making the Threats?
  • (08:29) Dan: “Elements within the government—certain groups within the intelligence community, military, private defense contractor companies.”
  • Maher accuses him of “talking like a politician.”

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6. Government Insiders & ‘Demons’ Explanation

• Literal Demonization of UAPs:
  • (09:05–10:05) Dan Farah recounts Pentagon officials dismissing UAPs as “demons,” quoting Jay Stratton:
    • “I’m briefing them on an advanced aerospace vehicle… And this guy’s telling me it’s a demon. It’s insane.”
    • (09:50) “My mind was blown.”
  • Memorable Moment: The absurdity of science being dismissed as supernatural evil at high levels of government—emphasizing cultural and ideological friction.

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7. Faith, Fallen Angels, and Aliens

• Existence of Demons and Aliens:
  • (10:11–10:27)
    • Maher: “Do you think demons and the devil are real?”
      • Greene: (10:11) “Absolutely. I’m a Bible believing Christian.”
      • Suggests UAPs could be “fallen angels” (10:17–10:22): “That’s possible. I think that’s what they could be. That’s what makes sense in my worldview.”
    • Moynihan flatly disagrees, emblematic of the show’s ideological diversity.
• Parting Note:
  • (10:34) Moynihan commends the willingness to disagree civilly:
    • “And that’s why we came here to disagree, but still appreciate each other for having the conversation. Happy Halloween.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• MTG on “Jewish Space Laser”:
  • (03:41) “No, I never did.”
  • (04:33) “Back then, I didn’t even know the Rothschilds were Jewish.”
• Dan Farah on UAP Secrecy:
  • (07:53) “There’s also a lot of people in the intelligence community…who are trying to bring the truth out.”
• Jay Stratton’s UAP ‘Demon’ Briefing (via Farah):
  • (09:43) “I’m briefing them on an advanced aerospace vehicle…And this guy’s telling me it’s a demon. It’s insane.”
• Greene on Aliens as Fallen Angels:
  • (10:22) “That’s possible. I think that’s what they could be. That’s what makes sense in my worldview.”
• Moynihan on Respectful Disagreement:
  • (10:34) “That’s why we came here to disagree, but still appreciate each other for having the conversation.”

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Key Timestamps

• Self-Driving Cars: 01:21–01:39
• UAP Bipartisanship / Secrecy: 01:39–02:28
• MTG/Rubio/Transparency: 02:28–03:08
• Jewish Space Laser Clarification: 03:36–04:54
• Billie Eilish on Billionaires: 05:05–05:43
• Crypto Scandal & Wealth: 06:34–07:29
• Intelligence & UAP Media Suppression: 07:32–08:29
• Demons at the Pentagon: 09:05–10:05
• Aliens/Faith/Fallen Angels: 10:11–10:27
• Conclusion/Civility: 10:34–10:44

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Tone & Atmosphere

• Characterized by directness, humor (sometimes biting), and surprising candor.
• Panelists combine skepticism, personal ideology, and a willingness to both challenge and clarify perceptions on controversial topics.
• The episode closes with a call for respectful disagreement and open dialogue—a hallmark of 'Real Time.'

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Summary

This Overtime panel cuts to the heart of perennial American anxieties: government secrecy, the role of faith in public life, the limits of wealth, and truth in media. While ideological divides remained—especially around UAPs, faith, and economics—the mutual willingness to debate in good faith made for a trenchant, memorable hour of conversation.

Transcript

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

People in this town, it's like the devil sent them.

[Mark Bernardin]

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[Podcast Host / Moderator]

Into the sewers to uncover the history.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Lore and horror of Maine's most sinister suburb.

[Mark Bernardin]

I'm Mark Bernardin.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

And I'm Princess Weeks.

[Mark Bernardin]

Join us Sunday nights for a behind the scenes look at it. Welcome to Derry, premiering on HBO and streaming on HBO Max.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

There's something bad here in Darien.

[Bill Maher]

Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO late night series Real Time with Bill Maher.

[Michael Moynihan]

All right. He's the director and producer of the upcoming documentary the Age of Disclosure. Dan Farah. He is co host the Fifth Column podcast and is host of the Moynihan Report. Michael Moynihan. And she is the Republican congressman from Georgia, Marjorie Taylor Greene. And I am your Halloween host, Bill Moore.

[Podcast Host / Moderator]

Okay, here are the questions from the people. I don't know what they are. Sometimes they're good, sometimes they're bad. For panel, the Waymo CEO said this week that society is ready to accept a traffic fatality caused by an autonomous car. Well, sure, he's going to say that. Are we?

[Panelist / Commentator]

Yeah, yeah.

[Podcast Host / Moderator]

I mean, if we're. Look, we accept human traffic, we're not giving up cars. And this is where cars are going.

[Panelist / Commentator]

Yeah. I think they're a lot lower too on the waymos and the Tesla ones. But every time you have one and it's a news story, but there's one every minute in the country, just in general.

[Podcast Host / Moderator]

Dan, what do you expect viewers to be most surprised by when they see your movie?

[Dan Farah]

Honestly, it's probably how bipartisan the topic really is. Leaders from both parties can't agree on anything, but they agree on this being a serious, important issue.

[Podcast Host / Moderator]

You agree on that?

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

I think it's a serious issue, yeah. I'd love to know more about it, but we're not told anything about it.

[Podcast Host / Moderator]

But you've had hearings. I mean, there was a hearing a couple of years ago and they didn't say much. And then there was a hearing recently. Right. Both of them were in the movie. Yeah. And a lot more came out. And there's a lot more people who are on board now. Very, very serious people. I gotta say, Rubio, I was never the giantess fan, but I didn't think he was a terrible guy. I feel like he is the adult in that administration. He just always looks okay to me. He looks like he's got his head screwed on. He looks like a serious guy. I can live with that guy.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Well, I think he's doing a great job and say that.

[Michael Moynihan]

He'S doing the best he can.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

At least we're talking about it, whereas before, no one would admit it was even real. And I think talking about it is extremely important. And I think people deserve to know the truth about it, just like the Epstein files. It'd be nice to know the truth about that.

[Dan Farah]

Rubio put his reputation on the line to get out there and get in front of this topic, even though it wasn't convenient for him. And he did it because he thinks it's in the best interest of the American people. And I think he's right.

[Podcast Host / Moderator]

You see, he's going to get mad at you for saying that thing about the Epstein file, but he'll still talk to you.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Oh, I love Donald Trump, but it's okay for me to disagree?

[Podcast Host / Moderator]

Exactly.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

I have my own mind. I represent my district. That's my job title. Representative.

[Podcast Host / Moderator]

Right.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

And these women, they deserve it. And every woman that's a victim. Human trafficking, they deserve it.

[Podcast Host / Moderator]

And, I mean, you're famous for. And I don't think you ever said the words Jewish space laser.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

No, I never did.

[Podcast Host / Moderator]

And I don't trust the media, ever, when I hear something like that, because I know there's always something more to it. Now when I hear the more to it, I still might think it's crazy. I'll be honest with you. But I don't know. What is the fuller version of that, that I don't know when I just heard Jewish space laser. And you never said those words?

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

I never did.

[Podcast Host / Moderator]

Okay, but what were you talking about?

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

I made a post in 2018 on my Facebook page and talked about a very interesting new technology where they were harnessing the sons.

[Podcast Host / Moderator]

Who's they?

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

This company.

[Panelist / Commentator]

Jews.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

No, I'm joking.

[Panelist / Commentator]

God, she'll still talk to me. You might get accused of being criticized.

[Michael Moynihan]

Yoga. Rothschild.

[Panelist / Commentator]

She said. Come on.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Back then, I didn't even know the Rothschilds were Jewish.

[Podcast Host / Moderator]

This was.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

I didn't know that. You didn't? I was. No, I didn't.

[Podcast Host / Moderator]

Oh, okay.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Oh, okay. Before politics, I didn't know much of any of this stuff, but I was commenting on this technology. That's all I was talking about. I never even said the word Jewish in the Facebook post.

[Podcast Host / Moderator]

Right. I mean, just so you know, Rothschild, to a lot of people is almost synonymous with the word Jewish.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Yeah, I had no idea.

[Podcast Host / Moderator]

Right. Well, now we know.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Now I know.

[Michael Moynihan]

That's what I'm here for. Make sure the people in Congress know what the fuck you're talking about.

[Podcast Host / Moderator]

Okay. While accepting an award from Wall street, the Wall Street Journal, Billie Eilish called on the billionaires in the room to give more of their money away. Does this reflect her generation's general attitude toward wealth? Yes. I saw her on TMZ doing this, and she was just saying, if you're a billionaire, why now? A billionaire is a lot of money, and I can't imagine anyone needing that much money or how you could ever spend it. However, when you get to 995 million, no one wants to stop.

[Panelist / Commentator]

No.

[Podcast Host / Moderator]

And I'm not so sure she would either if she got there.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Yeah, that's fair. I'm a big believer in low taxes or even no taxes. I think that would be great. So I don't think just because someone is successful, you punish them, but that's just how I believe.

[Podcast Host / Moderator]

But isn't there a certain number that we get to that. I mean, Elon Musk is approaching half of trillion, where, you know, we went through this with John D. Rockefeller 100 years ago. He was worth like 2% of the gross national product. And they did do something about it. It was like, you just. One person can't really have that much. First of all, they don't need that much money. And it just does skew the system in ways that are not healthy. I'm not sure about a billion.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

I'm pretty sure if you talk to people, they want to all. They all want to make that much money. I mean, that's just. Everyone wants to be successful.

[Panelist / Commentator]

I mean, he doesn't have that much money on hand. But it's obviously. But it's still a lot of money. I mean, look, the problem with lobbyists, you mentioned lobbyists before is that, I mean, Donald Trump last week pardoned a billionaire crypto guy that was deeply involved in his own crypto operation, his family's own crypto operation, and it seems to have made no news whatsoever. So we have, you know, billionaires in there. You know, I think now you've talked about crypto people having an undue influence on. On the current government. Whether you're talking about Trump or not, I don't know. But this is an incredible outrage. The fact that this guy was pardoned and is directly involved in Trump family business with a Trump shitcoin, as they call them in the. Which does nothing. It doesn't perform a function. Bitcoin performs a function. The Trump coin does not. So it's an enormous slush fund. And I'm not sure why people are not more outraged by this? Because It's.

[Podcast Host / Moderator]

Because there's 12 other things I know.

[Panelist / Commentator]

But that's why.

[Podcast Host / Moderator]

Because it's way down the list. All right, Dan, how do you view the relationship between the intelligence community and mainstream media when it comes to reporting on UAP topics?

[Dan Farah]

I think there's a lot of elements within the intelligence community that have an influence on mainstream media and encourage them not to cover this topic.

[Podcast Host / Moderator]

To not cover it.

[Dan Farah]

Yeah. That is, in fact, what I think is happening. There's also a lot of people in the intelligence community who are, in my film who are trying to bring the truth out.

[Podcast Host / Moderator]

Despite that, some of them seem to be saying very outwardly that they fear for their life.

[Dan Farah]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Podcast Host / Moderator]

You think that's a real thing?

[Dan Farah]

Yes, 100%. I had a couple people.

[Podcast Host / Moderator]

And who would be doing the killing in this? Who is hiring who to do what?

[Dan Farah]

I think there are a number of parties involved in covering this topic up. And threats, threats against people's life have been used to discourage people from talking about it.

[Podcast Host / Moderator]

Who's making the threat comes from various.

[Dan Farah]

Elements within the government. I go into it in the film in depth, but certain people, certain groups within the intelligence community, certain groups within the military, certain groups within private defense contractor companies.

[Podcast Host / Moderator]

Jeez, he talks like a politician.

[Panelist / Commentator]

He doesn't know.

[Michael Moynihan]

You know what I found scary?

[Podcast Host / Moderator]

The part about the people at the Pentagon who say, it's demons. Tell them that story. Tell them about the demons. It's Halloween. Yes.

[Michael Moynihan]

Tell them about the demons. What is that, Dan? Go into that.

[Dan Farah]

So in the film, one of the senior intelligence officials named Jay Stratton, he was the director of air and space warfare at the Defense Intelligence Agency. And then he ran the US Government's UAP task force. He tells a story about how he was trying to run this issue up the flagpole and bring attention to it at the Pentagon. At the Pentagon in a serious office space. And his superiors told him that they thought these things were demons and that he was doing the devil's work by looking into it. And on camera in the film, he says, I can't believe these words were coming out of their mouths. He's like, I'm briefing them on an advanced aerospace vehicle. That's absolutely there. It's been spotted by trained observers, like our Navy fighter pilots in their $80 million airplanes that we trust them with. Right. It's been spotted on data collection systems like satellite and radar. And this guy's telling me it's a demon. It's insane. And he's like my mind was blown. And this is something I'm dealing with inside of the government.

[Podcast Host / Moderator]

It's Halloween. Let me just ask the final question for the panel. Do you think demons and the devil are real?

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Absolutely. I'm a Bible believing Christian. I definitely and I believe those could be fallen angels.

[Dan Farah]

All these things could be real.

[Podcast Host / Moderator]

Fallen angels.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Yeah, Fallen angels.

[Podcast Host / Moderator]

The aliens are fallen angels.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

That's possible. I think that's what they could be. That's what makes sense in my worldview.

[Podcast Host / Moderator]

Michael? No.

[Michael Moynihan]

And that's why we came here to disagree, but still appreciate each other for having the conversation. Happy Halloween. Thank you very much.

[Bill Maher]

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