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Casey Hunt
Hi.
Moderator
We're back Here, a retired U.S. army major general and senior advisor for the bad Boys Foundation, General Paul Eaton. She anchors CNN's the Arena with Casey Hunt. Casey Hunt, and he's a Republican senator from Louisiana and author of the bestseller how to Test Negative for Stupid. John Kennedy, our first question is directed.
John Kennedy
Toward you from the people. John Kennedy, you write in your book that you've been a substitute teacher. What's your assessment of the state of schools and education today?
General Paul Eaton
Well, two points. Number one, I told Bill on the break, I'll say it again, if I ever piss you off, would you give me a chance to fix it first? Okay. Number two, I've been a substitute teacher for 15 years. There's a place in heaven automatically for any teacher. In America, We're doing better, but we're not. Well, if you look at 4th and 8th grade reading scores and math scores, particularly in some states like Louisiana and Mississippi, they're doing much better. Other places they have plateaued as a result of the pandemic. The future of this country, it's not the price of oil, it's not who the president is, and it's not who a senator is. It's education. And we don't talk about it anymore.
Moderator
Who's coming for the screens?
Angus Wall
Moms?
Casey Hunt
Yep, the moms in America are coming for the screens in the classrooms. And my son just started kindergarten. It is astonishing to me. He's already on a computer. There's screen learning everywhere. This is a huge, huge problem. And any you are seeing this as a big split among politicians. Some of them, like Spencer Cox of Utah, willing to say, like no social media till 16. This is bad for our kids. Others are equivocating. I'm telling you, the ones that are equivocating are going to be on the wrong side of this issue.
General Paul Eaton
Good point.
Moderator
Okay, for General Eaton, does Trump want his new Board of Peace to replace.
John Kennedy
The U.N. that's the first thing I thought. I mean, I mean, we already have a U.N. what would the Board of Peace be other than that it is.
Panelist
A replacement for the United Nations? And you know, this whole specter of black helicopters and nefarious deeds that the United nations is up to, as I mentioned earlier, I lived it with this young great American medic who would not wear the blue helmet because his conservative family said don't.
John Kennedy
Well, you're not saying that the UN hasn't done a lot of bullshit, are you? Because the UN has done a lot of bullshit.
Moderator
No doubt about it.
John Kennedy
Not just a lot of sexual assault claims against some of the people who are the peacekeepers, but you know, things like endless amounts of sanctioning Israel when plenty of other countries are doing way worse than Israel has ever done and they don't ever hear about it. So the UN I'm not saying we should replace it with the Board of Peace, whatever the fuck that is, but the UN is a very flawed body.
Panelist
And I am definitely not defending it either.
John Kennedy
Oh, okay. Speaking about the economy, Vice President J.D. vance said he won't turn the Titanic around overnight. How long can the Trump administration blame economic woes on Biden?
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John Kennedy
Well, I mean, it seems like he has the same problem that Biden had, which is affordability. That's the new political word. And it's not going away. It probably got Trump elected and it's probably going to again. You're going to get your ass kicked in the midterms.
Panelist
You know that, right?
General Paul Eaton
When moms and dads lie down to sleep at night and can't, the thing they worry most about is cost of living.
John Kennedy
Yeah.
General Paul Eaton
And just telling them that they can't believe their own lying checkbook, it's not going to work.
John Kennedy
No.
Moderator
Casey, this is for you.
John Kennedy
What do you think? What do you think of the FBI raiding a Washington Post reporter's home this week? This must hit home to you. Is that setting a dangerous precedent? Tell us the background of it first.
Casey Hunt
Well, so there was an investigation into. This is a woman, by the way, who doesn't cover national security day to day. Right. So we see this sometimes, government investigations into a national security leak of classified information. In this case, this woman was covering the federal government writ large under Trump. So doge, other things, there's an investigation into a contractor that they say was giving classified information to people, including to this reporter. So they raided her house. Right. This is very unusual.
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Casey Hunt
The government's usually really careful about how because there are protections for reporters who are doing their jobs. Now, it does sound like a judge has basically just said, hey, US Government, you might have that phone. You are not allowed to read what is on that phone. So the Post has taken this right to court and said, hey, this is not okay. Now, they have said they want the phone, the computers that they took back entirely. But this really is a new frontier. I mean, look, Democrats have taken reporters to court over leaks too, Right. The Obama administration had a massive fight with a guy working.
John Kennedy
Obama did not like leaks yes, very.
Casey Hunt
Very famous, very famous case. But this one, this, the piece of this that's incredibly unique is physically going in and taking these devices as opposed to using paper to say we demand that you give us this information. So this is a huge test also.
John Kennedy
Taking place within the bigger picture of an administration that is suing newspapers for reporting polling, you know, for the people who, you know, always got on my case. Bill, you're so crazy saying Trump will never concede an election. He doesn't concede polling.
Moderator
All right, I got to get you to an airplane because you got to get back to Washington. This is see. Thank you, panel. Thank you, audience. It's great to be back. Thank you HBO for another season.
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General Paul Eaton
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Date: January 27, 2026
Panelists:
This “Overtime” segment dives into the American education system, political polarization surrounding technology in schools, skepticism of international institutions, the enduring economic woes facing Americans, and press freedoms in the current political environment. The conversation is lively, candid, and occasionally biting, with guests bringing both personal anecdotes and pointed political commentary.
[01:30]
“The future of this country, it’s not the price of oil, it’s not who the president is, and it’s not who a senator is. It’s education. And we don’t talk about it anymore.” – Eaton [02:20]
[02:30]
“My son just started kindergarten. It is astonishing to me. He’s already on a computer. There’s screen learning everywhere. This is a huge, huge problem.” – Hunt [02:33]
“The ones that are equivocating are going to be on the wrong side of this issue.” – Hunt [02:54]
[03:04]
“The UN has done a lot of bullshit.” [03:40]
“Not just a lot of sexual assault claims against some of the people who are the peacekeepers, but you know, things like endless amounts of sanctioning Israel when plenty of other countries are doing way worse… The UN is a very flawed body.” [03:51]
[06:09]
“It seems like he [Trump] has the same problem that Biden had, which is affordability. That’s the new political word. And it’s not going away. It probably got Trump elected and it’s probably going to again.” – Kennedy [06:09]
“When moms and dads lie down to sleep at night and can’t, the thing they worry most about is cost of living.” [06:26]
“Telling them that they can’t believe their own lying checkbook, it’s not going to work.” – Eaton [06:35]
[06:44]
“Taking place within the bigger picture of an administration that is suing newspapers for reporting polling… for the people who… always got on my case, Bill, you’re so crazy saying Trump will never concede an election. He doesn’t concede polling.” – Kennedy [08:17]
The discussion is direct, sometimes acerbic, with panelists pulling no punches—especially regarding ineffective institutions (schools, the UN, the government) and looming threats to press freedoms. There is a palpable concern about the direction America is heading, both in terms of foundational civic issues (education, free press) and the grind of everyday economic realities. For those who missed the episode, this Overtime offers insight into today’s political and social fissures, as well as the challenges confronting Americans on the ground and in the classroom.