EZRA LEVANT | Alexa Lavoie reports from London while Free Speech Union challenges UK ban

Summary

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Episode Overview

Title: EZRA LEVANT | Alexa Lavoie reports from London while Free Speech Union challenges UK ban
Date: May 16, 2026
Host: Ezra Levant (Rebel News)
Guests/Reporters: Alexa Lavoie (Reporting from London), Lauren Gunter (Edmonton Journal columnist), Tommy Robinson (interviewed), various on-the-ground interviewees

Main Theme

This episode centers around Ezra Levant’s ban from entering the UK amid heightened restrictions on so-called "far-right agitators" and coverage of Tommy Robinson's planned London rally. While Ezra is banned, Rebel News reporter Alexa Lavoie conducts on-the-ground interviews in London, highlighting public attitudes about free speech, government overreach, and recent visa bans. The latter half pivots to a discussion on climate policy and pipelines in Canada, focusing on the announced Alberta-Federal MOU (Memorandum of Understanding), analyzed with guest Lauren Gunter.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Ezra Levant’s UK Ban and Official Response

• Ezra details being banned from the UK on vague grounds of "not in the public interest" after years of previous travel.
• UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer’s public messaging casts critics and rally participants as extremists (see quote sections).
• Free Speech Union in the UK is taking up Ezra’s case and highlights the potential influence of his pro-Israel stance on the travel denial.
• A broader government crackdown is discussed, including the revocation of other journalists’ and politicians’ visas.

Quote:

“The reason was so vague, it was not in the public interest.” – Ezra Levant (01:59)

2. Alexa Lavoie Reports from London

• Alexa stealthily enters the UK to avoid her own ban and documents street-level sentiment on free speech, the Tommy Robinson rally, and visa bans.
• She encounters resistance from local authorities and security, particularly around professional journalism versus citizen reporting.
• On-the-street interviewees express a mix of concern, cynicism, and frustration about the state of free speech and government selectivity in enforcement.
• Notable tension between the right to protest/speak and government clampdowns—some express support for government action against "fascists," others call it hypocrisy and censorship.

Quote:

“Some people get free speech and some don’t, which is never. I, I actually think you should be able to say just about anything. So I’m a free speech fan.” – London street interviewee (13:17)

Quote:

“It should be an absolute right, otherwise we're no better than North Korea or Russia.” – London interviewee (13:26)

• Alexa features a confrontation with security officials who try to stop her from filming (“No professional camera, please.”), underscoring the broader theme of media censorship.

Memorable Moment:

“Are you the gatekeeper of... I will have to go get the media.” – Alexa Lavoie challenging security (16:53)

3. Reactions to Tommy Robinson’s Rally and Government Clampdown

• Alexa interviews Tommy Robinson, who decries the bans as exposing UK government hypocrisy—allowing in hate preachers but denying entry to journalists and politicians.
• Discussion of double standards: leniency for extremist Islamist preachers and open borders vs. exclusion of center-right or conservative figures.

Quote:

“They’re not cancelling extremists. They’re cancelling journalists.” – Tommy Robinson (22:06)

• Skepticism over the sincerity of the government’s crackdown on “hate,” with claims that the law is selectively enforced.

4. Broader UK Free Speech Climate

• Mixed feelings on government handling—some citizens see clampdowns as necessary to prevent hate, others deeply worry about the erosion of democratic values and critical thought.
• Concerns extend to university debate and academic freedom, with older interviewees recalling a longer trend toward shutting down controversial opinions.

Quote:

“You need to find out about what’s going on with people who don’t think the way that you do...they’re trying to be very selective about who has a voice, which is one of the reasons we’re in the mess we’re in.” – London street interviewee (15:38)

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5. Alberta-Federal Climate and Pipeline Agreement: A "Deal to Make a Deal"

• Ezra and Lauren Gunter dissect the MOU between Alberta and the Federal government—ostensibly progress for pipelines and emissions reduction, but viewed by both as “an agreement to have an agreement”, full of federal caveats and lacking concrete action.
• Mark Carney’s climate credentials are criticized; focus on the artificiality of carbon markets (“carbon credits are not a real commodity”).
• The real-world impracticality of Canadian-only carbon taxes and credits is discussed, with comparisons to indulgences and international competition (or lack thereof).

Quote:

“I look at carbon credit like the medieval practice of indulgences... Unless you have a government that's creating an artificial market for them, there is no market for them.” – Lauren Gunter (29:50)

• The conversation extends to the economic irrationality of costly climate measures in Canada versus the global reality—buyers only care about price, not “clean” oil.

Quote:

“If you’re willing to buy from [Putin]...they have literally spent more money on energy from Russia than they have given to Ukraine in foreign aid.” – Ezra Levant (34:09)

Notable Tension:

The Synovus CEO bluntly states carbon taxes in Canada are “nothing more than a cost,” not an incentive to reduce emissions.
(31:00–32:27)

6. The Pipeline "Patient" Is Missing

• Ezra uses a Monty Python sketch for comic analogy: “we have all the machines that go beep” (policy, bureaucracy), but missing the key ingredient—a real customer or oil producer ready to invest under these new rules.

Quote:

“Who are we missing with all this talk about oil? Well, a single proponent who would say, yeah, I really think this is worth putting 5, $10 billion into as opposed to going to Venezuela.” – Ezra Levant (39:16)

7. Indigenous Consultation and Legal Obstacles

• Lauren Gunter highlights intense legal hurdles—federal requirements for Indigenous consultation that can be used to continually stall or block projects, especially in BC.
• Recent court decisions further complicate and politicize the process, fueling western alienation and frustration with federalism.

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• On UK Ban / Political Rhetoric:

  • “Shame on you, you censorious thug.” – Ezra Levant (01:59)
  • “Tomorrow's march in London is a reminder of what we're up against...their goal is to convince people that Britain's problems are caused by those living alongside them.” – Keir Starmer (02:48)
  • “We will ban those coming into the UK who seek to stir it up, as we have done already.” – Keir Starmer (04:03)

• Public Reaction:

  • “Omnishambles. We had omnishambles with the Tories, we've got omnishambles with Labour.” – London interviewee (11:37)
  • “Some people get free speech and some don't... I actually think you should be able to say just about anything.” – Street interviewee (13:17)
  • “I think it was very hypocritical because there's people coming over on the boats illegally. He's not doing much to stop that...” – London interviewee (13:45)

• On Media and Filming Confrontation:

  • Alexa Lavoie: “So you have a problem with the actual news, not with... So anyone random could—” (16:44)
  • “Go get security. Thank you very much. Right, let's go.” – Alexa Lavoie (16:56)
  • “Welcome to the UK, the land of no freedom and the land of censorship as well.” – Alexa (17:12)

• Tommy Robinson:

  • “They’ve exposed themselves. They don’t like people who have a different opinion from their worldview or their mass open, border, dangerous immigration.” – Tommy Robinson (22:06)

• On Alberta-Federal MOU and Pipelines:

  • “This does not feel like a win to me.” – Ezra Levant (27:48)
  • “It’s more of a deal to make a deal...this really isn’t all that big a deal.” – Lauren Gunter (27:49)
  • “Carbon credits are very much the same thing as medieval indulgences... Unless you have a government that's creating an artificial market for them, there is no market for them.” – Lauren Gunter (29:50)
  • “All this is just combined to make an incredibly complicated policy framework that makes investments in Canada difficult and non competitive with other countries like the US.” – Synovus CEO (32:27)

• On Missing Pipeline Champions:

  • “Who are we missing with all this talk about oil? Well, a single proponent who would say, yeah, I really think this is worth putting 5, $10 billion into...” – Ezra Levant (39:16)

• Indigenous Consultation and Democratic Hurdles:

  • “Some anthropologist is going to stand up at a conference and try to explain carbon capture... and they're all going to start to howl and say, ed, you're nuts.” – Lauren Gunter (36:12)
  • “So that's section 35 of the charter. Section 15 says you have to give equal consideration to race, gender, sex...what happens to democracy when that happens?” – Lauren Gunter (46:17)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• UK Ban and Starmer’s Comments (01:55–04:35)
• Tommy Robinson Rally Coverage / Visa Cancellations (06:35–14:43)
• Free Speech Street Interviews (13:00–17:00)
• Filming Confrontation at Abbey (16:20–21:28)
• Tommy Robinson Interview on Media Ban (22:06–24:46)
• Analysis of Alberta-Federal MOU (25:18–29:50)
• Synovus CEO on Carbon Tax Reality (31:00–32:27)
• Discussion on Pipeline Investment, Monty Python Analogy (38:31–39:52)
• Legal & Indigenous Consultation Hurdles (41:00–45:00)
• Danielle Smith’s Political Challenges (46:59–48:34)

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Tone and Style

• Political, combative, and at times sarcastic (Ezra Levant’s signature style).
• On-the-ground scenes are candid and at times confrontational, echoing the tension between public sentiment and government policy.
• Expert guest analysis (Lauren Gunter, Synovus CEO) is skeptical of government climate policy, using historical and economic references.
• Humor (Monty Python) is used to highlight bureaucratic absurdity.

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Summary Takeaway

This episode of the Rebel News Podcast offers an insider’s view of increasing censorship and political crackdown in the UK as perceived by Rebel News, with Alexa Lavoie’s on-the-ground reportage putting a human face on broader themes of free speech and governmental overreach. The latter segment’s pivot to Canada’s pipeline and climate debate continues the theme of public policy decisions made “for show” rather than on economic or practical grounds, ending with skepticism about the true impact or sincerity of government agreements and highlighting frustrations common to conservatives and Western Canadians.

If you missed the episode: Expect fiery discussion, on-the-ground color, and skepticism of both UK and Canadian political handling of dissent, free speech, and energy policy.

Transcript

[Ezra Levant]

Hello, my friends. What a big show today. I talked a little bit more about my ban from the United Kingdom, and I'm glad to say I found allies today, too. Plus, our friend Alexa Lavoie was on the ground in London, so she's got the reports for you. And then a hearty conversation with our friend Lauren Gunter about Mark Carney's visit to Alberta and what the pipeline MOU means and doesn't mean. And I got a funny clip for you from Monty Python to illustrate the point. That's all ahead, but first, let me invite you to get a video version of this podcast. We call it rebel news plus, just go to rebelnewsplus.com, click subscribe. And for example, there's this funny sketch from Monty Python that's right on point. And I want you to see that there's a lot of little visual elements I want you to see, especially from Alexa's report from London. So go to rebelnewsplus.com one more thing.

[Podcast Host / Announcer]

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[Ezra Levant]

Tonight, Alexa Lavoie lands in London, where she's allowed to travel, but I'm banned. Plus, Mark Carney goes to Alberta with a bunch of nothing. It's May 15, and this is the Ezra Levant show.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

You fighting for freedom.

[Ezra Levant]

Shame on you, you censorious thug. Oh, hi everybody. It is afternoon on Friday. Normally I would be getting ready to get on a plane tonight, flying to London, England, but I haven't heard back from the Home Office. As you saw yesterday, I have been banned from going into that country, which I visited a couple dozen times over the last 10 years. And the reason was so vague, it was not in the public interest. Keir Starman, the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, did a rant today. He said far right agitators and extremists are not allowed in here. He is just smearing anyone who's even just a gentle critic of himself. Take a look.

[Keir Starmer]

Tomorrow's march in London is a reminder of what we're up against in the battle of our values. The organisers, including convicted thugs and racists, are peddling hatred and division, plain and simple. Their goal is to convince people that Britain's problems are caused by those living alongside them. But that is not the Britain that I know. This is a country built on decency, fairness and respect. A country that is at its best when people from different backgrounds come together in common purpose. This is our country with a majority who share those values, A majority who may not always be as loud, but must always define who we are. So my government will not stand in the way of peaceful protests, but we will act decisively against hatred. We will use the full force of the law when that hatred manifests as violence. And we will ban those coming into the UK who seek to stir it up, as we have done already, because this country belongs to all of us. And I will not tolerate anyone who seeks to stand in the way of that.

[Ezra Levant]

It's just crazy. He's trying to create a kind of moment, maybe a January 6th style moment. With tomorrow's big rally that Tommy Robinson is holding, he had a crisis meeting with the police and immediately thereafter the police changed their rules. Here's him meeting with police and showing everyone that he was. Why are you meeting with police? He's not the top of their chain of command. Police are supposed to be neutral, nonpartisan. Here's Tommy Robinson letting us know what did happen when Keir Starmer was done meeting police. Take a look.

[Alexa Lavoie]

We have worked tirelessly with the police and the agreement that we finish at 6 o'.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

Clock.

[Alexa Lavoie]

So we have scheduled singers, speakers, everything scheduled to the minute. And then after Starmer's meeting this morning, they've changed all. They've knocked 30 minutes off, which devals all of the speakers, the sequence, who's meant to speak, when they're meant to speak, the finishing time. That's what they've done. That's what they've done to try and derail it. So we're working away to try and sort that now of how we can do it, other than cutting people out. Singers, songers of what we've agreed for months. We've got the recordings of the meetings with the police agreed for months. They have a meeting with Keir Starmer this morning, Siddiq Khan, they've gone back on everything. That's what he's tried to do is derail the day, but he won't be successful. So we're not going to get angry about it. We're going to. When you face an obstacle, you get around it, which is what we're going to do.

[Ezra Levant]

Yeah. I think that Keir Starmer, who's just crumbling in his public support, thinks he can whip up some crisis that he manufactures and have some, I don't know, God forbid, violent outcome and then puts him back on the map or something. I don't know. I think it's going to fail, but the problem is I'm not allowed to go there to report on it because they're just lashing out at everyone. I'm pleased to say that the Free Speech Union in the UK has taken up my case. Here's a press release they put out. They think it's unacceptable and they point out in their press release that I happen to be a supporter of Israel. And they wonder. And I didn't say this to them at all, I didn't even think of this. They thought that that could be the reason why I was kept out, because they have a very strong policy on pro Hamas in the labor government. I don't know. Anyways, I'm glad to have some legal support out there and I'm delighted that Alexa Lavoie is there. I want to show you some of Alexa's work. She's been there. I encouraged her to go a couple days early and not to pop up with any videos letting the world know she was there until she was through Customs and Border Police. Anyway, she's been doing some great. Here, take a look at this. Here's some of Alexa's work in the UK today.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

It's one of those things. I do believe absolutely in free speech, but like I say, there are consequences to free speech. You should have the free speech, but you're not immune from consequences.

They're not entitled to have a visa.

[Keir Starmer]

This is nothing less than a battle for the soul of our nation.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

Do you see a double standard to let the boat arriving, but denying access to people who don't have any criminal charges or criminal.

Tommy Robinson's had a few criminal charges.

No, but the speaker from other countries doesn't have it.

Maybe not, but if they're backing Tommy Robinson, then they're extreme right wing.

[Ian (Reporter)]

I'm Ian. I'm here in London, England, and in just a few days, Tommy Robinson is set to hold his massive United Kingdom rally. And apparently that has Keith Starmer's government terrified. In the lead up to this event, the UK government has started canceling visas and blocking entry for commentators, activists, journalists and even politicians connected to Tommy Robinson's rally.

[Keir Starmer]

And you'll see it again on Saturday at a march designed to confront and intimidate this diverse city and this diverse country? That is why this Labour government will block far right agitators from travelling to Britain for that event, because we will not allow people to come to the UK for threaten our community and spread hate on our stream.

[Ian (Reporter)]

My colleague Avi Yemini wasn't even planning to come yet. He still received an email from the UK government revoking a visa he had applied for more than a year ago, claiming his presence in the UK was not conducive to the public good. But what exactly is conducive to the public good under Keir Starmer? Are boats filled with illegal migrants conducive to the public good? Are radical Islamist preachers conducive to the safety of British communities? Are the grooming gangs he once tried to shield? Are. This socialist government has become a world leader in arresting people over nonviolent online speech, far ahead of countries like Russia and China. Starmer knows he can't stop Tommy Robinson's supporters through the court because the law is not on his side. So instead his government is using executive powers to deny people entry into this country. This is not democracy. This is political censorship. Keir Starmer refuses debate, he refuses criticism, and he refuses to take responsibility for the failed policies that have left so many people in this country feeling abandoned following these visa cancellations. Ben Habib, chairman of the advocacy group Great British, wrote to Starmer's government warning that Britain, Britain. Warning that Britain has historically distinguished itself from authoritarian systems precisely because it has defended the principle. That controversial speech is answered by debate. He also wrote that the British public is increasingly concerned that the term far right is now being deployed indiscriminately against conservatives, nationalists, immigration critics, cultural traditionalists and political dissenters generally. In his letter, Habib is demanding that the government release the information used to justify these entry bans, explained under which legal authority they act, and answered for what appears to be a politically motivated crackdown. But I made it in. I was able to fly under the radar. And I'm here because the truth needs to be shown now more than ever. These people are not far right agitators. They are working class citizens who are tired of being ignored, censored and demonized for speaking out against open borders, mass immigration and a socialist government that has failed them.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

See, so I'm just here really basically asking people, what do you think about your government in Kiev tomorrow? Do you think they are great? Do you think the Omnishambles that's The one word you need, omnishambles. We had omnishambles with the Tories, we've got omnishambles with Labour, which is why

reform has done so well, because it's just a knee jerk reaction to the others.

I think he, I think he's a coward, you know, and he really should prescribe the IRGC and do more to combat Islamic extremism and antisemitism. You know, he's like Sadiq Khan in a way. He's totally incompetent. He doesn't really have any real passion.

Well, I've never thought much about him. I've never thought he was very good. But I'm not sure there's anyone to replace him at the moment, so I wouldn't necessarily want him to go.

I think he's a bit sort of plain boring. Nothing really too dramatic.

He's clearly lost the support of his backbenches or many of them, and very clearly the country is unhappy with them. That's how you read the elections.

I think he's not trying hard enough. He owes too many people favours that now he's in a position of power, he can't do what he wants to do. He's the best of a bad bunch.

It's your government, Keir Starmer, denying access to some people who were attending Tommy Robinson's rally to speak. And I'm asking the people if they see any concern about free speech in this country. Yes,

some people get free speech and some don't, which is never. I, I actually think you should be able to say just about anything. So I'm a free speech fan.

I mean, it should be, you know, it's the same as the whole idea that they've got in the, in the, in the States about the Free Speech amendment. Everybody has the right or should have the right to free speech. You don't have the right to be exempt from the consequences of free speech, but free speech should be an absolute right, otherwise we're no better than North Korea or Russia.

I think it was very hypocritical because there's people coming over on the boats illegally. He's not doing much to stop that. He's no deporting people who are extremists and Islamic fundamentalists that really should be deported. And it's just part of Keir Starmer's clampdown on free speech. And free speech in the United Kingdom is one of our tenants of democracy and it should be respected.

So you mean denying fascists the right to speak? Well, I Think that's a good thing?

Do you think it's a good thing?

[Ian (Reporter)]

Yeah.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

Why do you want fascists on the street?

I think it's a pretty common tendency here, to be honest. It's not really anything that's particularly new. I mean, it's left wing government. Somewhat left wing government. And people here aren't really fond of Tommy Robinson. I can see why people would say it's a free speech issue there, but I'm simply just not surprised.

I think the vast majority of people in this country are tolerant and they do not follow the policies that perhaps more right wing and less tolerant people do. That might answer the question.

That's basically. I thought we live in a democracy where you can come and do and protest. Obviously not because they're picking and choosing. It's like saying we don't want him to come because it's going to be. It's the Kanye west situation with a wireless. I know there's reasons behind it, but you're just picking and choosing who you want. That's not democracy.

Did you sign the erosion of free speech in these countries?

Yes.

Yes.

How Universities not allowing the debate of things. And I think universities should be able to debate anything within a safe kind of environment. Things. Yeah. Things not being allowed to be said, not being allowed to be explored. And that happened in the early noughties and has continued. That's my view as a very old person.

Yeah. I think the problem is we're getting less and less critical thinking because people are shut down if they don't agree with that person's particular political persuasion. You need to find out about what's going on with people who don't think the way that you do and understand what their reasons are. Because you can't improve things for everybody unless everybody has a voice. And they're trying to be very selective about who has a voice, which is one of the reasons we're in the mess we're in, I think across the western world for the abbey. I promise you I'm trying to get you my id. I work for the press office.

For the press office.

[Alexa Lavoie]

Do you believe in free speech?

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

Yes. I'm not going to get into a competition about that.

[Alexa Lavoie]

Do you believe in free speech?

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

There are rules for filming on our property. So you need to get in touch

[Alexa Lavoie]

with us to do.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

But I can see here that you are an actual news.

[Alexa Lavoie]

Oh, so you have a problem with the actual news. Not with. So anyone random could.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

No, but you're. You're an endorsed.

[Alexa Lavoie]

I'm glad you Said that we're endorsed.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

Please.

[Alexa Lavoie]

Thank you for the endorsement.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

Are you the gatekeeper of. I will have to go get the media.

[Alexa Lavoie]

Go get security. Go get security. Thank you very much. Right, let's go.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

Okay. What was that?

[Alexa Lavoie]

That was someone who doesn't like us talking. And they don't like us talking if they don't want us to have an opinion. And it's tough shit because we've got a very strong opinion. Welcome to the uk, the land of

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

no freedom and the land of censorship as well.

[Alexa Lavoie]

I can't wait for the security to come.

[Lauren Gunter]

Can you?

[Alexa Lavoie]

Are you waiting for security to come? I can't wait.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

What would you say to the security?

[Alexa Lavoie]

I'll point out all the other people filming and asking what the problem is. Here it comes.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

And we are in the sidewalk.

[Alexa Lavoie]

What's the mate who can't.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

Private property.

[Alexa Lavoie]

How come they won't film me?

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

It's private property.

[Alexa Lavoie]

So a question. How come they will film?

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

It's a private property, sir. Okay, okay.

[Alexa Lavoie]

How come they're all filming?

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

You can. With the phones. Yeah, you probably.

[Alexa Lavoie]

So if I change this to a phone.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

Excuse me, sir. I'm telling you again, you can't film in here.

[Alexa Lavoie]

How come they're all filming? I'm telling you, I'm just me, not the rest of the people. They can.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

I'm telling you, you can't film in here.

[Alexa Lavoie]

And what?

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

You can't film with that?

[Alexa Lavoie]

I can film with this.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

Yeah.

[Alexa Lavoie]

Okay.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

No professional camera, please.

Are you kidding?

Excuse me.

[Lauren Gunter]

Hello.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

Like, what are you doing?

[Alexa Lavoie]

Don't touch that. Excuse me.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

Excuse me.

[Lauren Gunter]

Hello.

[Alexa Lavoie]

Excuse me. Don't touch that.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

Don't touch my camera.

The camera y.

[Alexa Lavoie]

Use this film.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

Did you really put, like, your. Your hand in my lens?

[Lauren Gunter]

I'm in here.

[Alexa Lavoie]

Okay, go in there.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

Did you put your hand in my lens?

[Alexa Lavoie]

Close the.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

You get arrested, sir?

[Alexa Lavoie]

Arrested for what? Filming.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

Filming?

[Lauren Gunter]

Yeah.

[Alexa Lavoie]

Arrested for filming.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

Yeah.

[Alexa Lavoie]

That's. That's Britain 2026. Go get the policeman. Go get the police.

[Caller / Listener]

Please.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

Go get the police. Can you.

[Alexa Lavoie]

Can you sort them out, Officer? Go get the police, mate. Let's carry on our interview. Let's just finish our interview. Yeah, Come on. What were you saying, Peter? He's going to get arrested for filming.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

Apparently, yeah.

[Lauren Gunter]

Let's go.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

Why you jumping?

[Ian (Reporter)]

Don't.

[Alexa Lavoie]

Wait.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

Why you jumping?

[Alexa Lavoie]

Go away.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

Why you jumping?

[Alexa Lavoie]

Go. Wait.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

Go filming.

[Ian (Reporter)]

It's a sidewalk.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

You can't film.

[Alexa Lavoie]

It's a sidewalk. Go speak to them. Sorry.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

What's going on?

[Ezra Levant]

Hello.

[Alexa Lavoie]

Hello, mate. How are you? How are you doing?

[Ezra Levant]

You Right.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

Yeah.

[Alexa Lavoie]

Go away. So basically, right, everyone's filming. This gentleman, that gentleman, that gentleman. She's filming. Yeah, everyone's filming.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

Right? But for some reason, aggressively, this girl

[Alexa Lavoie]

puts her phone on hand on her camera. This gentleman, I don't know who he is, thinks he's in charge of the police or something. This gentleman's come over. You can't film. You can't film. So tell everyone else they can't film. Yeah, we'll do the same as everyone else. If no one can film, no one can film.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

Professional film.

[Alexa Lavoie]

Professional. What makes it professional?

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

So if you're. If you're still taking a professional shot, if you're not taking.

[Alexa Lavoie]

Who decides what's professional?

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

The press department.

[Alexa Lavoie]

Okay.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

This is owned by the. By the Abbey.

[Alexa Lavoie]

Okay. So if we've just come here to this building for a. Perfect. For an interview, we're not allowed to finish our interview. Walking out of steps. Is that what you're saying? But everyone else is.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

No, no. You shouldn't have started joining your interview without talking to the press department.

[Alexa Lavoie]

What do you. Okay, but everyone else is filming.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

No, no, they're. They're right. They're taking shots of the Abbey. Taking a photo of the Abbey.

[Alexa Lavoie]

So I'm standing with the Abbey in the background.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

But if you're filming, taking footage for, like.

[Pete Hoekstra]

You're not.

[Alexa Lavoie]

You're not. Yeah, he is filming.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

Of course he's filming.

[Alexa Lavoie]

Of course he's filming. Sorry, mate.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

If you're taking footage for, like, media stuff, then you need to basically.

[Alexa Lavoie]

Okay, but we're not doing it for media. We're citizen journalists.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

Yeah.

[Alexa Lavoie]

We don't like the media.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

Right.

[Alexa Lavoie]

We're doing it for.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

But the thing is, journalists also have to do that. BBC.

Itn.

Okay.

[Alexa Lavoie]

Sorry.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

No, sorry, mate. Okay.

[Alexa Lavoie]

Okay. So where's your property?

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

This. This old ground. So up until. Up until the lines all the way down. So you see that. That footpath? You can do anything.

[Alexa Lavoie]

Thank you. Thank you, mate. Nice one. Come, go. Oi. You're not hard. No, you won't. No, you won't. Turning up millions. I hope so.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

Good luck to you, my friend.

[Alexa Lavoie]

Thank you, Matt. Thank you very.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

Thank you very.

That is good to have.

[Alexa Lavoie]

Thank you very much.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

I said, he said, what you doing? You know, I'm assuming honestly found us.

[Alexa Lavoie]

Here we are. That one there. Really?

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

You're better than I am. I'll do it.

[Alexa Lavoie]

Are you jumping in that way?

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

Well done.

[Alexa Lavoie]

Thank you very much. See you Saturday. See you Saturday. Right, mate, how are you? I might have seemed a bit hostile to those People, but, you know, people telling me where I can and can't film. It's like, look, he's filming. Everyone's filming one meter away.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

Literally.

[Alexa Lavoie]

What the point of that. Welcome to England.

[Ian (Reporter)]

Yeah, so I'm with Tommy Robinson and we are two days before the big rally and I want to have your thoughts on what the UK government have done. Canceling visas of speakers who were attending your rally.

[Alexa Lavoie]

They've exposed themselves. They've not cancelled extremists, they're cancelling journalists. Yeah. So they've exposed themselves. They don't like people who have a different opinion from their worldview or their mass open, border, dangerous immigration. They've exposed what we have to live with in Britain. You see, they don't want journalists talking members, European Parliament, multiple members, European Parliament, high ranking, have now been refused entry into this country. Whilst they're stopping journalists and they're stopping media or they're stopping politicians. Our borders are open to rapists, criminals, jihadists. Our country and our government welcomed back a terrorist who said all white people need to be killed. They welcomed him back, they brought him in. He's not British, from Egyptian or whatever, but yet they're stopping journalists. So they've just exposed themselves. I know. The letter that Dominic, the Polish gentleman, our good friend, shared is on 7 million views. The world can see what Britain thinks about free speech.

[Lauren Gunter]

Yeah.

[Alexa Lavoie]

And this Saturday, the country's coming out not in support of K Starma, against him. Oh, my ear.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

What do you think about? I think you have.

[Alexa Lavoie]

That little man was funny. That was funny, really?

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

So they announced that they will deploy massive police enforcement. They say that they are ready to arrest people for hate speech. Same if. Same for the people who are seeing Intifada. Do you believe that they will really crack down on the other one?

[Alexa Lavoie]

We've had laws that could have been implemented against all the extremist Hamas supporters for the last two years. They've allowed them call for jihad, made excuses for them. They've allowed to call them for the murder of Christians and Jews. They've allowed them to incite hate from one end of this country to the other and they've done nothing. In fact, real hate has been incited in mosques up and down this country. No arrests, no dawn raids, no closing down of mosques. Why? What they mean is they want to intimidate the British public into sight, but that doesn't work anymore. Yeah, there's no hate speech. There's just facts. We speak facts and we speak truth and that's what we'll continue to do. And we'll do it on Saturday with the biggest audience this country's ever seen.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

Do you think he made a mistake by cancelling Visas?

[Keir Starmer]

And you'll see it again on Saturday at a march designed to confront and intimidate this diverse city and this diverse country. That is why this Labour government will block far right agitators from traveling to Britain for that event because we will not allow people to come to the UK for threaten our community and spread hate on our streets.

[Alexa Lavoie]

He made a big mistake because he's exposed himself to the world. And you see. Kia Starmer, you muppet, right? There's such a thing now called the Internet and actually Starlink, thanks to Elon Musk. So the people you've banned, they'll be here with us.

[Ezra Levant]

Well, Alexa's going to be there on the ground tomorrow. I'm sort of jealous. I love covering these rallies, but I'll be there in spirit and hopefully we'll give Keir Starmer a metaphorical black eye. I don't want anyone to think I'm calling for violence, which he is clearly hoping for, by the way. In Alberta, a lot closer to home, Mark Carney and Danielle Smith had a meeting. Next up, my interview with Lauren Gunter about how that went. And are the Feds playing with Alberta? Take a look.

[Caller / Listener]

And today's agreement. Agreement is also about creating a better world for our kids and our grandkids through major investments that will help put Canada on the path to net zero. Through a methane equivalency agreement that will lower methane emissions from oil and gas by 75% below 2014 levels by 2035. And through carbon markets that work. When we signed the MoU in November, an oversupply of credits had driven prices as low as $20 a ton, $75 below the headline price. And today, as you've just heard, Canada and Alberta have agreed to create markets that deliver an effective carbon price of $130 per ton by 2040 with binding annual benchmarks along the way. We will also issue 75 million tons of carbon contracts for difference to support major carbon capture, clean energy, other emission reduction projects with the cost shared equally between us. In other words, we will have skin in the game so that that market actually works.

[Ezra Levant]

You might be forgiven if watching that clip, you don't understand that this was supposed to be announcement. This was touted as somehow a pro Alberta, pro oil patch announcement. But as you can see, it was the exact opposite. The Prime Minister triumphant, announcing that no, all of his ideologies, his 20 year history of being an environmental extremist. He meant it. And even though he has eliminated the retail carbon tax, he is going to increase taxes on methane, carbon, carbon markets, decarbonized pipelines, all of these things that no other oil producer in the world does that no oil buyer asks for. By the way, there's no such thing as decarbonized oil. That's like. Like saying dehydrated water. This was presented to Albertans today and I'm baffled by the fact that Danielle Smith, who I rather admire, regards this as some sort of a triumph. Joining me now to talk about this is my friend who is writing for the Edmonton journal. Quite illuminating. I look forward to hearing his thoughts on this. Lauren Gunter joins us now from Edmonton. Lorne, you've been covering the oil patch for 30, 40 years. I'd have to count. This does not feel like a win to me.

[Alexa Lavoie]

No.

[Lauren Gunter]

And if you look at the details, it's more of a deal to make A deal. If, if Alberta reaches several important federal benchmarks, then Ottawa will consider fast tracking the approval of the pipeline. Well, that's what we had before today's announcement. This really isn't all that big a deal. And it's funny that that Carney has said the carbon market in Alberta is broken because at some point carbon was only trading at $20 a ton. That's what a market's all about. If you don't have enough people buying whatever you're selling, the price comes down. So now we have to create an artificial market that will go up to $130 a ton by 2040. Considerably better than the 170 a ton that Trudeau wanted to impose by 2035. But still, it's got to be a fake market because the actual market was at $20 a ton. That's what people were prepared to pay. And so we're already looking at a lot of federal nonsense.

[Ezra Levant]

It's not a hocus pocus. Without government subsidies, no one in the world would quote buy carbon credits. It's not a real thing. I understand people buying soybeans or buying canola or buying wood or buying eggs. You buy things that you use that are tangible. A carbon credit isn't a thing. It's Enron style accounting and all of the language he used there. That's the bad Mark Carney from before when he was with the Glasgow financial alliance for net zero. He pretended that. That he put that aside for about five minutes during the election. It's back. Danielle Smith seemed happy by this because the pain he's imposing is less than the pain he was going to impose. I'm sorry, I don't consider that a win.

[Lauren Gunter]

No, I don't consider a big win either. And I look at carbon credit like the medieval practice of indulgences. If you knew you were going to go out and commit a sin, you could donate a certain amount of money to a priest or a bishop and that person would then, in advance of your sin, absolve you of your sin. And I think carbon credits are very much the same thing. Unless you have a government that's creating an artificial market for them, there is no market for them.

[Ezra Levant]

I want to talk about real life for one second. They're talking about pipelines, but I saw the other day the Synovus boss say, look, that's not happening. We have so many crazy costs imposed on us that are not real world costs. And if you're going to put all these carbon costs on us, that's just going straight to the. Straight to our cost. It's not improving our product. We're not going to change what we do. We're not changing how we produce. Here, let me play a clip of the Synovus boss saying this. I think this clip is from the Globe and Mail. It was the first real talk I've ever heard about the fact that you can pay all these indulgences, but it literally does not change what these companies do. Here, take a look.

[Synovus Boss / Industry Expert]

We are the only country among the 10 largest producers globally that has a carbon tax. And the carbon tax for our industry is nothing more than a cost. It doesn't incent us to decarbonize. It is solely a cost of doing business. So when you think about what we intended to do with the carbon tax is it really works when it's globally applied and that can be passed on to the consumer. The consumer sees the higher cost of the product that they're consuming and they consume less of it. And you get the price signal going back to the producer who produces less. What we've done is we put a carbon tax on in Canada that is solely born in Canada. And we compete in the global market. So the products that we sell get a global price. So we're not able to pass that along to the consumers. There's a breakage of the linkage in terms of what the policy was intended to do and what it actually does. So it's simply a cost of doing business that has to be incorporated into any investment decision. We have that, plus we have the tanker ban, plus we have Clean electricity regulations, plus we have methane regulations. And all of this is just combined to make an incredibly complicated policy framework that makes investments in Canada difficult and non competitive with other countries like the US and countries in Asia.

[Ezra Levant]

That's the first grownup I've heard talking about these things almost ever. I mean, if you're selling Canadian oil abroad, no one cares about how you put any of that. Countries that are buying oil from, let's say Iran, they don't care about carbon. They just are so desperate for oil, they'll buy from the world's terrorists. I think that's the first real talk. But instead of this sort of baffle, gab, fake language about credits and markets, that's not real. What that guy just said there is the realest real I've ever heard.

[Lauren Gunter]

Yeah, yeah, I know. And he is, or his company, Synovus, is part of the Pathways alliance, which is supposed to be building this carbon capture network that could cost up to $20 billion so that they can capture carbon from the exploration and extraction of oil and oil sands. And thereby we can go to the world and say, see, our oil is so clean, you'll want to buy from us at a premium because then you'll feel morally better about the purchase. And as you said, nobody cares about that. Even the Western countries that might buy oil from us, Japan, for instance, they don't care about that. They care about what the price is. And the price is too high. If you start adding all that stuff to it at one point, must be about a year ago now, Carney said, well, we'll have a much better chance to break into markets if we have clean oil because people like the Europeans will want to buy from us enough. No, they won't. They want to buy from whoever's selling the cheapest oil.

[Ezra Levant]

Yeah, right now they're buying from Vladimir Putin. They're buying conflict oil and conflict gas. So if you're willing to buy from the guy that they say they all hate him, and I believe that, but they have literally spent more money on energy from Russia than they have given to Ukraine in foreign aid. They have funded Russia more than they have funded Ukraine because they buy conflict energy.

[Lauren Gunter]

No, no doubt about it. And that's not going to change. You know, we are hoping that with the put a new pipeline, million barrels a day out to the west coast, that we're going to find all sorts of new Asian clients. Indonesia, China, Japan, lots of other countries over that way. Vietnam will be part of our, will be potential customers of ours. They're not Going to pay an extra 20% to Canada just so that we can feel as though, you know, we've made Greta Thunberg more comfortable. It's ridiculous. It really is.

[Ezra Levant]

You mentioned the $20 billion just for this fake industry of capturing carbon. By the way, I'm emitting carbon talking to you right now. I apologize. And earlier today, I emitted a little methane. Don't tell anybody. But my point is that these are naturally occurring elements. It's rather insane to try and regulate them. By the way, in the Netherlands, Geert Wilders tells me they were trying to regulate nitrogen. Let's just go through the whole periodic table of the elements. It's wacky. But you mentioned $20 billion. Just super quick math. If there's a roughly 5 million Albertans, rough. So that works out to $4,000 per person. Let's say the average family is, I don't know, three people, four people in the average family. So that's 15 grand, let's say per family. So because of Ottawa's bizarre fetish and their hatred of the West, $15,000 that could go per family to whatever is going for some scheme that, you know, liberal lobbyists are up to their eyeballs in anyways. That's super gross to me.

[Lauren Gunter]

I once wrote that, you know, a thousand years from now, some anthropologist is going to stand up at a conference and try to explain carbon capture to his or her colleagues, and they're all going to start to howl and say, ed, you're nuts. You're trying to tell us that they took air and stuck it in the ground for some reason or tried to

[Ezra Levant]

make cows not fart.

[Lauren Gunter]

Exactly. By the way, basically all we're talking about, and I don't care how big the Super El Nino is going to be this summer. I saw a story about a week ago that there was another super el Nino in 1877. But you can bet they'll blame this one on global warming and climate change. But how do you explain the one in 1877? I mean, this just happens every once in a while in weather. Most of our weather just happens every once in a while. And you can capture all the carbon you want and shove it into caves below Cold Lake, Alberta. You're not going to accomplish a thing.

[Ezra Levant]

Yeah, it's almost as if Mark Carney is doing something that might benefit his dear friends in Communist China who are building two or three new coal fire plants every week. Hey, here's the point about this mou. And that just a reminder that sense from Memorandum of understanding and Lauren I think you're right to say it's almost like agreement to have an agreement. It's not an agreement, it's not a contract. It's sort of vague principles that together maybe something will happen. What's missing is, I mean, we showed John McKenzie, the boss of Synovus, who was talking real talk. What's missing is an oil man willing to say, all right, I'll ship half a million barrels a day in the pipeline and I can commit to spend X amount of money to get this thing built. That's often how pipelines are done. They go out and sort of canvas different producers and say, we're going to build a pipeline. How much of it do you want? We're going to put you down for this percent, that percent, and together we'll make this thing work. Because the pipelines are often for a variety of customers. That's how it works. No one has come forward. And it made me think of that old Monty Python sketch. Let me play just one minute for you, Lauren, because there's someone missing in this conversation about pipelines. And maybe Monty Python can help us remember. Take a look at this. You'll get a little chuckle.

[Lauren Gunter]

Oh, it's bear in here there, isn't it? Yes, yes.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

More apparatus, please. Nurse. The eeg, the BP monitor and the avv.

Yes, certainly, Doc.

[Lauren Gunter]

And get the machine that goes.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

And get the most expensive machines in case the administrator comes. Jolly good. That's better. That's much, much better.

[Pete Hoekstra]

Yes, more like it.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

Still something missing, though.

[Ezra Levant]

Patient. Oh, that's right. Just missing one thing. Who may. The patient. So who are we missing with all this talk about oil? Well, a single proponent who would say, yeah, I really think this is worth putting 5, $10 billion into as opposed to going to Venezuela. I personally know an oil man for a multibillion dollar company in Calgary who is in Venezuela doing deals because it is a lower risk adjusted rate of return in Venezuela than Alberta. Oh, we've got all the machines that go beep, but we don't have a customer, Lorne.

[Lauren Gunter]

Exactly. And you know, you might find six or 10 oil companies that are prepared to jump in if this is guaranteed. But there's a section in this new agreement that was signed today, I think it's 4.1.4, that says basically, if the federal government is pleased with all the consultation the Alberta government does with first nations, and if private backers can be found, then we'll think about accelerating the approval rate, the approval process to September 1, 2027. Well, that's an Awful lot of ifs. Yeah, because they've already. The assembly of first nations, the West Coast First Nations, a lot of other organizations between Alberta and the B.C. coast First nations have said no, we're not going to sign off on this. Doesn't matter. You know, I think you can, I think you can deal with the Alberta first nations who have shown themselves to have some entrepreneurial smarts and for a share of the pie, they will, they will give their approval. But in BC they play games all the time. You might remember with the Coastal Gas Link pipeline that was taking gas from the northeastern B.C. fields out to the coast, that there was one group of three reserves that had elected chiefs, elected council and inheritance. Hereditary right, I remember. And the elected chiefs and councils all favored the pipeline. But the feds went out and found the hereditary chiefs, most of whom weren't like ancient old first nations people. Most of them were sort of ceremonial in their, in their positions. And those unelected hereditary chiefs said no. And so the fed said, well, we can't, we can't, we can't go against them. The first nations have said no. What's it going to take for Alberta to get that, to get through that kind of mess? Especially now in B.C. with Dripa, the Declaration of Rights of Indigenous Peoples act, which is basically what has been used to take away private property in Richmond B.C. it's been used to kill mega projects in the rest of the project. BC is a real mess right now. I can see why Nutrien, the big fertilizer maker in Saskatchewan decided to put their port in Washington State because they get away from all of that gooey with Evie, the premier and all of the first nations in bc.

[Ezra Levant]

Well, I mean we just saw a couple days ago a Trudeau appointed judge in Alberta say, oh, sorry, 300,000 people petition to ask for a referendum question. I have discovered a new indigenous right to be consulted before petitions can be like just making it up and slaughtering the democratic will. Not just of the 300,000 who signed that petition, but 400,000 signed a counter petition. Oh, but, but a judge said, no, no, no, we're going to. In the name of indigenous. And if you oppose this court ruling, of course you're racist. Yeah, I wouldn't trust that. By the way, I asked, I had an interview a couple months ago with the ambassador from the United States, Pete Hoekstra. And I asked him, would you be open to a pipeline going through America? And he said, of course. Here's a clip of that.

[Pete Hoekstra]

Number one is the, you know, very positive statement about Alberta, but I think it's how Americans generally feel about Canada. Okay. You. You could get us saying lots of positive things about lots of. Of the provinces and the. How we've developed our ecosystems together. I know that Besant, Secretary Wright, Secretary Burgum, President Trump, you know, it's kind of like, yeah, pump a bunch, put a pipeline down to the border. Our responsibility then to put pipelines on our side of the border that will take whatever oil Canada decides that they want to ship to the United States. And the, you know, again, there's lots of uses that we would have for it in terms of processing those kinds of things. We want more oil. If Alberta wanted us to build a pipeline to the west coast because they said, hey, we want, you know, we've got another 2 million barrels of oil per day that we want to ship to Asia and Japan, I would think that we'd be very open to having that discussion.

[Alexa Lavoie]

Yeah.

[Ezra Levant]

I mean, by the way, I think that all of this stuff. And, I mean, I think you and I disagree on independence, Lorne, but I think this stuff shows the frustrations and the pointlessness of dealing within the system. If the best the system can do is 100 caveats on a vague MOU, and anytime something gets done, a radical judge overturns it. Yeah. I don't know how independence could be any more chaotic. One of the things Jason Kenney always says is independence would be chaotic. Really more chaotic than the judges we're seeing. More chaotic than a prime minister with his vague carbon demands.

[Lauren Gunter]

One of the points I made after that judge determined that there was this newfound right of first nations to be consulted in advance.

[Ezra Levant]

Yeah.

[Lauren Gunter]

Like, who gets to be consulted in advance of a law passing or a referenduming out? Nobody gets it. But I said, okay, so that's section 35 of the charter. Section 15 says you have to give equal consideration to race, gender, sex. There's a whole disability. There's a whole list of minority issues that you have to give equal consideration. Now, is government going to have to go before it makes any laws and ask women and black people and the disabled whether that's okay with them?

[Ezra Levant]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Lauren Gunter]

What happens to democracy when that happens?

[Ezra Levant]

Yeah, I think you're right. Hey, I got one last question for you. You know, I really like Danielle Smith, and there's a lot of things I like about her, including the fact that she came into politics. I mean, she really started with a top job. I mean, she had a history with the Wild Rose Party, but she came in, she colonized the UCP party and she's running. I think she's done a fairly good job. But this is a real pickle for her because she wants to do a deal with Mark Carney, and I think that's the right thing to want. But I. And I'm not going to say she was bamboozled here, but boy, she's showing a lot of enthusiasm for something that is not a win. And I don't know. Do you think she's getting played by Mark Carney?

[Lauren Gunter]

There's always that chance when you're working with the feds that you're being played in. The last time I know we weren't being played was back in the 70s when Lougheed put together a cabinet that was full of experts who knew how to play back in the fetch start. But at the end, in the end of all of that, he still clinked champagne glasses with Pierre Trudeau over the national energy program. So, yeah. Is she being played? Probably. Is she being too optimistic? Definitely.

[Ezra Levant]

Yeah. Well, I think. I mean, listen, I really like her and I've been friends with her since university, by the way. But she's in a very precarious time because on the one hand, it looks like the courts are going to derail a referendum that hundreds of thousands of Albertans have said that said they wanted. And on the other hand, she's being exuberant over a nothing mou. I think she has to be careful because you got 7,000 petition canvassers who are all revved up looking for something to do. And I think that she needs to direct them at an external bad guy, namely Mark Carney. Because if she says no. Carney good. Judge good. Referendum bad. I do not want. I mean, there's really a curse of Alberta premiers. They're all thrown out after one term.

[Lauren Gunter]

She has to be very, very careful when she does that too, because if her actions lead to the creation of. Of another party. How does it sound, Premier Nahed Nenshi? Because that's the only way the NDP will win is if there's two parties on the right.

[Ezra Levant]

Yeah, I think she can handle it. I honestly don't know who her key advisors are on these matters. I think she's done a pretty good job of navigating them. But today I think was sort of a gross announcement by Carney and I think it was too friendly received. Lawrence, great to catch up with you. What are you writing about in the Edmonton Journal these days?

[Lauren Gunter]

Oh, mostly about this. Yeah.

[Interviewee / Onlooker]

All right.

[Lauren Gunter]

The judges decisions and these MOUs. There's not much else that interests readers right at the moment.

[Ezra Levant]

Yeah, well, we'll keep an eye on that. Thanks very much for giving us your time.

[Lauren Gunter]

You bet.

[Ezra Levant]

There he is. Lauren Gunter, senior columnist for the Edmonton Journal. Stay with us. Your letters next. Hey, welcome back. Your letters to me about Alexa touching down in London. John ML says, genuinely impressed. Harris Starmer didn't ban Rebel News either. Well, he did ban me and he banned Abi Yamini. I guess he doesn't really know our whole organizational chart. I did say to Alexa, keep a low profile till you're across the border. I guess that she wasn't on their hit list. Mark M says, thanks for showing the world what's happening in our country. I bet Starmer will be kicking his cat all around Downing street after watching this. I think everything's. The walls are closing in, as they say. I mean, about 100 of his own MPs, including many Cabinet ministers, have called on him to step down. He just got slaughtered in local council elections. Everyone knows that will happen in the next election, too. I think he's actually the least popular Prime Minister in the history of UK polling, so everything's. He's just burning the place down as he goes down to Whalen says, I got banned from the UK writing this. Well, I hope that's not true, but it wouldn't shock me. I mean, remember, the UK is the place where, according to the Times of London, a very prestigious newspaper, 30 people a day are arrested or accosted by police for what they put on social media. That's such a staggeringly large number. I hate to say it, but it's actually more than China or Russia. Arrest per day for mean words. I know that sounds crazy, and I'm not saying that the UK is worse than China or Russia, but holy smokes. By some measures, looks like they're trying to be worse. That's our show for the day until tomorrow when Alexa is going to be on the ground. Boy, it's going to be an interesting day. Good night and keep fighting for freedom.