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Rebel News Podcast

Tue Nov 18 2025

Tonight on The Ezra Levant Show, Ezra discusses the difference between MAGA and America First, and the politicization of "Christ is King." As a Canadian, here are his thoughts.

Summary

Rebel News Podcast: “'America First' is not MAGA — blame 'right wing' trolls for that distinction”

Host: Ezra Levant
Guest: Sheila Gunn Reid (from Brazil)
Date: November 18, 2025

Main Theme & Purpose

This episode explores the fracturing of the American right, specifically the online battles over slogans like “MAGA”, “America First”, and “Christ is King.” Ezra Levant offers a Canadian perspective on why these phrases are fueling tension among right-wing youth, the emerging anti-Trump "troll right," and the growing overlaps with anti-Israel and anti-Semitic sentiments. Later in the episode, Sheila Gunn Reid joins live from Brazil to expose the realities and hypocrisy of the UN Global Warming Conference.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Trump: From MAGA to “America First”

[00:00-05:07]
- Levant opens by unpacking differences between “Make America Great Again” (MAGA), “America First,” and “Christ is King.”
- Trump, in his view, has made massive progress on immigration, trade, and fulfilling campaign promises, effectively “living like he’s counting the minutes left in his terms.”
- Levant credits Trump for sticking to campaign promises, effecting peace deals, deporting millions, and minimizing US military entanglements.
  
  “He’s whipping through his checklist. He’s living like he’s counting the minutes left in his terms.” — Ezra Levant (06:47)
- The host notes, somewhat wistfully, that this leaves little critical ground for firebrand conservative pundits who “love to critique the government.”

2. The Online Troll Right’s Revolt

[08:24-13:01]
- Emerging right-wing voices (e.g., Nick Fuentes, Candace Owens, even to some extent Tucker Carlson) are actively agitating against Trump from a more radical, purist position.
  - Nick Fuentes is highlighted as an example, calling for Catholics, anti-war supporters, and immigration restrictionists not to vote for Trump, claiming he’s become indistinguishable from the establishment.
    
    “I’m calling on Catholics, anti-war supporters, immigration restrictionists and MAGA loyalists to stay home and not vote for Trump.” — Nick Fuentes ([08:49])
- Levant likens this to a “troll army,” doubting such voices were ever truly conservative or loyal to Trump.
- Fuentes’ rhetoric includes crude attacks on rivals like Charlie Kirk and problematic praise for Hitler and Stalin — which Levant derides as not remotely conservative.
  
  “Yeah, that’s not really conservative.” — Ezra Levant ([10:58])

3. Deeper Splinters: Pro-Qatar, Anti-Israel, and Anti-Semitism

[13:01-24:12]
- The episode details how some disaffected right-wing pundits and influencers pivot from supporting Trump to engaging in anti-Israel and anti-Jewish rhetoric, often pushed by foreign-funded actors (Qatar, Russia).
- Levant accuses prominent Americans (Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Marjorie Taylor Greene) of “flipping” to pro-Qatar, anti-Israel, and sometimes anti-Semitic positions when disaffected by Trump.
  
  “It seems that anyone who is disaffected by Trump immediately turns into a pro-Qatar anti-Israel activist.” — Ezra Levant ([20:45])
- The host discusses the dangers of foreign influence in right-wing circles, referencing registered Qatari payments to media figures.

4. Slogans as Weapons: MAGA vs. America First vs. America Only

[24:12-34:50]
- Levant unpacks how “America First” is now being weaponized as a critique against Trump, when in reality, it was a central plank of his presidency.
- The distinction between “America First” (Trump’s heritage policy) and “America Only” (more isolationist, troll-driven slogan) is emphasized.
- Levant cautions that if America fully retreats from global engagement, the vacuum will be filled by adversaries like China and Russia.

5. “Christ is King”: Sincere Faith or Troll Test?

[34:50-39:52]
- The phrase “Christ is King” is increasingly deployed online. Levant sees a positive in Christians affirming faith, but argues the troll right uses it as a weapon or litmus test, not as a statement of private belief.
  
  “When people like that use the phrase Christ is King, they’re not saying it as a statement of their own faith, but as a kind of trump card, if you pardon the pun.” — Ezra Levant ([36:47])
- He notes the bizarre spectacle of self-proclaimed “pagans” and Hitler-admirers leveraging the slogan.

6. Social Media, Foreign Bots, and Information Warfare

[39:52-43:16]
- Levant warns of “robot” and bot-driven disinformation campaigns, especially by Qatar, that are flooding young Americans’ social media feeds with anti-Trump, anti-Israel, anti-Jewish, and “America Only” propaganda.
- He worries about the radicalization of youth and the blurring of lines between legitimate political debate and outright foreign influence operations.

7. Field Report: UN Global Warming Conference in Brazil

[43:16-61:19] (with guest Sheila Gunn Reid, on location)
- Sheila Gunn Reid exposes the contrast between the conference’s green rhetoric and the abject poverty of Belem, Brazil.
- She details the favelized reality: 60% of the city in makeshift slums without sanitation; only 4% of wastewater treated.
  
  “The streets when it rains here...run brown with turds. And nobody should have to live that way when they’re spending money on environmentalist conferences.” — Sheila Gunn Reid ([45:48])
- The hypocrisy of building roads through rainforests for delegates, while blaming ordinary people’s “summer road trips” for climate woes.
- Security actively prevents journalists from covering “Freedom Highway” — a 13km road cut through the rainforest for the conference — by shooting down drones.
  
  “When they’re telling me that my summer road trip is the problem while okaying a highway through the rainforest, that doesn’t make any sense to me.” — Sheila Gunn Reid ([50:28])
- Climate-related censorship: Sheila recounts growing restrictions on skeptical coverage, with government preference for pro-UN narratives.
  
  “They know that's how they win the information battle, is by censoring people like me.” — Sheila Gunn Reid ([57:41])

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Trump’s Transformation of Government:

“Whatever you think of Trump, you must admit he is doing exactly what he said he would do, including taking on the deep state in bold ways.” — Ezra Levant ([04:24])
On Disaffected Right-Wing Pundits:

“A fraction of the online right say they’re tired of Trump, they’re tired of winning. They think he’s not pure enough. ... I have no idea who they think would be better.” — Ezra Levant ([07:59])
On Nick Fuentes' Inflammatory Tactics:

“I just get a sick satisfaction out of it because I like to win.” — Nick Fuentes ([11:00])
On Online Manipulation:

“Most of it’s fake, but young people live online. They’re on their phones 12 hours a day ... thousands of messages from accounts repeating those same slogans. Turning against Trump but much more importantly turning against America.” — Ezra Levant ([38:15])
On Environmental Hypocrisy in Brazil:

“CUTTING a highway through the rainforest ... is the least problematic thing I saw in the Amazon today because right beside this ... is the stench of garbage piled up here in the 32-degree heat.” — Sheila Gunn Reid ([53:16])

Timestamps for Important Segments

00:00-05:07: Ezra’s intro and the “MAGA” vs “America First” setup
08:24-10:58: Nick Fuentes’ denunciation of Trump and attack on Turning Point USA
11:13-12:18: Fuentes’ Hitler and Stalin praise; Levant's reaction
13:01-15:27: Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens’ narrative shifts on foreign policy and Israel
19:00-20:45: Anti-Israel rhetoric and overlap with anti-Semitism in rising online factions
21:13-22:45: Critic exposes intra-GOP infighting as a new “civil war” between MAGA and America First
24:12-28:30: Distinctions between MAGA, America First, and America Only
34:50-36:47: “Christ is King” as slogan and test—Levant’s critique
39:52-40:32: Tucker Carlson’s dislike of Christian Zionists (“I dislike them more than anybody, you know ... because it's Christian heresy.”)
43:16-55:15: Sheila Gunn Reid's on-the-ground report from Brazil, exposing poverty and environmental conference hypocrisy
57:41-59:07: Conference's emphasis on information control, censorship of skeptics
60:11-61:19: Levant and Reid discuss press restrictions, backlash against exposing Brazilian issues

Episode Flow & Tone

Ezra Levant: Direct, concerned, occasionally combative. He combines policy analysis with culture-war framing, focusing heavily on what he sees as misinformation and foreign influence on the right.
Sheila Gunn Reid: Investigative, descriptive, mixing outrage at the hypocrisy of climate elites with empathy for local poverty in Brazil.

Summary Takeaway

By dissecting online “word wars” over MAGA, America First, and Christ is King, Ezra Levant traces ideological fragmentation among American conservatives. He warns this is being fueled by an alliance of foreign influence operations, directionless radical online “troll right,” and traditional adversaries. The episode contrasts this intra-American struggle with international hypocrisy, highlighted by a hard-hitting field report from the UN’s climate summit in impoverished Belem, Brazil.

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Transcript

Ezra Levant (0:00)

Hello, my friends. Today I try and unpack phrases like Make America great Again, America First, America only, and Christ is King. These phrases are being used in a new online battle, especially for right wing youth. What do we make of it? I'll give you my thoughts and then we'll talk to Sheila Gunrid down in Brazil. She's covering the UN Global Warming conference down there and it's sort of gross what she's found. I'll let her tell you what she's discovered down there, but first, let me invite you to become a subscriber to Rebel News Plus. That's the video version of this podcast. On today's show, you really got to get it because there's so many interesting clips, including from Brazil, I want you to see with your eyes. Just go to rebelnewsplus.com and click subscribe. Tonight, what's the difference between maga, Make America Great Again, and America First? And why has the phrase Christ is King become a political slogan? I'll give you my thoughts as a Canadian watching America. It's November 17th and this is the Ezra Levant Show. Shame on you, you censorious bu. Donald Trump's central promise in both his first term and this term is to stop immigration, including by building the wall. I think he was stymied in his first term for a number of reasons, but the main one was that his team was not truly committed to his radical reforms on this or other issues. I mean, really, he was a revolutionary. He hired people, though, whose primary loyalty was was to the Washington system, not to him or his agenda. And they would nod politely when he said things like stop immigration. And then they would go about undermining him quietly. It was the dictionary definition of the deep state. And I think Trump thought about that every single day he was in political exile. You can see it in two obvious ways. First, the constant expressions of loyalty by his new crop of appointees, the entire Cabinet, many other senior appointees. Whenever they talk to the media, they always start by mentioning President Trump first when asked about their accomplishments or decisions. It might look over the top and obsequious, but after a term, Trump's first term, when many of his appointees clearly despised the man and clearly were working against him. It's sort of required, don't you think? I mean, sure, it's a loyalty test, but loyalty to the project that Trump promised voters and that voters asked for. And second, look at the meticulously detailed battle plan that was rolled out, starting literally within minutes of Trump's inauguration. Hundreds of bold Executive orders, some of them very detailed. Tackling everything from the border to woke universities to drilling for oil. Again, whatever you think of Trump, you must admit he is doing exactly what he said he would do, including taking on the deep state in bold ways. I mean, the appointment of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Alone is a momentous move, something that no Covid skeptic could ever have hoped for, even in Trump's first term. And in terms of sheer impact with severely normal people, Trump banned men from participating in women's and girls sports and in women's and girls bathrooms and change rooms. Just huge and real life and right out of the gates. It was a miracle in a way, but not a miracle at all when you think about it. Just a willingness to do what needs to be done and a lack of fear and a lack of patience. He's been thinking about these things for a long time, like when Napoleon was in exile. And look at what Trump's done, in addition to his basic promises. Did you even know that there were eight war wars out there to resolve? Which, if I'm not mistaken, is the number that Trump has concluded negotiated a peace deal. Some are still persisting, like the huge war between Russia and Ukraine, but Trump has resolved many others, including some that have trudged on for decades and have massive casualty counts. Trump really is the president of peace, but as he always says, peace through strength. And you know, that's why the world is safer now than when he took office, especially the Middle East. And all Trump had to do there was to sell weapons to Israel so it could do the heavy lifting against Hezbollah in Lebanon, against Hamas in Gaza, and against the Iranian conventional military, taking out their missile launchers and anti aircraft systems. It is true that Trump deployed some seven B2 bombers to surgically strike Iran's nuclear bases. Only America could do that because only America has the B2. But he did that after the Israeli army had wiped out those anti aircraft defenses in Iran. It was an important role that Trump did, but you couldn't really say it rose to the level of a war. And Trump is shooting drug smuggling boats coming up from the Caribbean and South America. Again, I don't think you could say it's a war. And my point that I'm trying to make here is that Trump has been very, very reserved in his use of military force. He likes peace through strength. And I promise I'm coming to my point here. And my point is this. Trump has done exactly what he promised to do. The biggest thing is to stop new immigration and engage in mass Deportations I saw the other day that they crossed the 2 million mark of deportations. He's also renegotiating trade deals around the world, including, for example, deals we talked about like the one the other day, guaranteeing America access to Malaysia's rare earth minerals, something that China has been trying to get a monopoly on. Those are important minerals for tech products. Massive investments in America by countries trying to avoid tariffs. And I'm sorry that has hurt Canada or at least our auto sector. But I'm making the point here that Americans must be pleased with Trump. He's whipping through his checklist. He's going full tilt. He's living like he's counting the minutes left in his terms. So imagine being someone like me in America. Imagine being a firebrand conservative pundit. What do you fight for? Trump is doing all the things you could ever ask him to do, including a lot more you probably never think of. I mean, just this week he called on Congress to release all the Jeffrey Epstein files here in Canada. Conservatives, by contrast, have a lot to campaign on. Same in the United Kingdom, same in Ireland, same in France, same in Netherlands and Brazil and all the places that are still laboring under the leftist globalist ideology. But it's tougher to be a tough guy pundit in America. When Donald Trump and the government that he runs, you love to critique the government. It's actually bolder than any pundit. I mean, what do you even talk about? Well, anything, I suppose. Conspiracy theories. I suppose what Candace Owens is focused on is Emmanuel Macron, the leader of France, is his wife actually a man. That was what Candace Owens is focusing on because Trump is really just rocking his to do list. Molehills are being made into mountains. And so it is that a fraction of the online right say they're tired of Trump, they're tired of winning. They think he's not pure enough. They think he's not right wing enough or America first enough. I have no idea who they they think would be better. I'm not sure how it could even be possible to be tougher than him. And by the way, to still win elections. I suppose you could be the most pure conservative in the world and lose, but what's the point of that? Trump's point is that he's a winner. But I see an online rebellion against Trump now. A lot of it is by people who pretend to be conservative, but who never really were and never really supported Trump in the first place. Here's Nick Fuentes, the the head of the troll army who voted against Trump.

Ezra Levant (24:12)

But the troll right, I don't even want to call it the right, has some powerful phrases that they use, or more accurately abuse or use to trick people. I'd like to talk a little bit about a few of them. Maga, America First. Christ is king. Permit me to share with you my thoughts on these phrases as I've seen them a lot lately. MAGA obviously stands for Make America Great Again. That's Trump's big idea. It's so simple, almost cliche, but what a powerful slogan. It so obviously wasn't the American government mindset during the Obama years. On everything from military matters to diplomacy to the border to trade deals, America was losing or just letting others win. Trump brought back pride to America and confidence and pizazz, like Reagan did in 1980 after Jimmy Carter's malaise. Now, I don't think anyone is trying to hijack the phrase maga, since it really translates into Trumpism. It's so meshed with Trump's own personality, his personal style and pace. I don't think anyone can steal that phrase away from Trump, which is exactly the point of that video that Russia Today loved. They want Americans to switch off of MAGA and onto America First. Now, why would they? Because they're Russian or Qatari or Iranian. Why would they want America First? Well, by the way, America first, if you don't know, is a central campaign platform for Trump. I mean, just go to the White House website and type in the word America First. You'll see countless references. Here's his executive order, literally on his first day of the job. I'll read it. Section one, Purpose. From this day forward, the foreign policy of the United States shall champion core American interests and always put America and American citizens first. That was really just the headline. There are so many other details, so many other executive orders. On trade, on investment, on energy, on so many things. America first is hardwired right into it. On policing, on drilling. I don't know, it's sort of exciting to have an American who thinks about America. On the UN and environmentalism. Trump hates the UN environmentalism. There are literally dozens of policies that Trump has proposed, going back decades, really, that fall under America First. I mean, you could dig up Old videos of him in the 80s talking about it. But those on the troll right are trying to use America first to attack Trump, which is sort of weird and crazy. Like I say, other than the seven B2 bomber strikes and shooting at these narco terrorist drug boats, Trump hasn't entangled America in foreign wars. In fact, I'm a bit nervous about how some of his peace deals look like with the former terrorists running Syria or even his plans to pacify Gaza. I'm not sure if that's even possible. But look, the guy's a peacemaker. He's been living it. But to the troll, right, it's not enough. They want a full American retreat. Without it, they warn, hundreds of thousands of Americans will die. Especially if Trump bombs Iran's nuclear facilities.

Ezra Levant (28:30)

Yeah, no. Iran didn't even shoot a firecracker back at America. The troll, right, was wrong. But they had their mission, which was to stop Trump from attacking their friends in Iran and Qatar. You know, Iran didn't even. I mean, I don't even. They barely even protested. The anti Semitic wing and the troll right, they talk about Trump fighting Israel's wars, but in fact, Israel is the one country where U.S. troops are not based. There are nearly 50,000American soldiers in Germany have been for 80 years. The U.S. is still in Italy. They never left after the Second World War. They're still in Japan, did you know that? Still in Korea. Americans never left those places, some of them going back more than a century. There's even a US Base in England. What? How? Why? Not to mention many Muslim countries like Turkey and Qatar. Qatar actually has the biggest US base in the region, which costs the US about $10 billion a year. Basically, the American Air Force is defending Qatar. Not quite sure why. Not quite sure who agreed to that, but that's how it is. Israel does not have a U.S. base there. They do get about $3 billion a year in annual military aid, which Netanyahu has just announced he'd like to phase out. I haven't heard Qatar or Germany or Japan or Korea talk about phasing out the US Military bases in their countries. But I just don't buy it when the anti Semitic troll right says America fights Israel's wars. In fact, the last 25 years of wars haven't been Israel's wars. They've been Muslim wars, not Jewish wars. Iraq, Kuwait, fighting isis, Kosovo, Somalia, Libya. There are even US Troops in Syria right now. But my point about America first is that it's not America only, which some of the troll right are using. Because if America isn't going to have a footprint around the world anymore, I mean, by the way, I'm not advocating that America withdraw from the world. I'm just pointing out that Israel does not have an American base. And the $3 billion a year to Israel sounds like a lot, but it is a sliver of a fraction of what America spends in other bases like Turkey and Qatar. If America is one based around the world, that's fine, but someone else will. I mentioned Syria. There is a Russian air base in Syria right now. If America isn't in Qatar, and I don't think they should be, by the way, Qatar will probably align with someone else, probably China. I mentioned the US Deal with Malaysia a moment ago. Designed to push out the Chinese and grab the rare earth minerals so China doesn't get them. Trump wants America to protect Christians in Nigeria, Africa, and I think he really means to do it to protect Christians. I think he believes in that. I think it also helps him back in the United States. But I think he also wants America to have a bigger presence in Africa. China has effectively colonized Africa. It's by far the largest investor in that country. Right now. America looks like it's trying to topple Venezuela's Nicolas Maduro. Iran and Russia have really tried to colonize that country. Trump wants them out. You could have a worldview against all of this, by the way, against all US Foreign aid and against all US Military bases around the world, against many of these deals I mentioned. And that's a principled position to take. You could call it isolationist, libertarian, whatever. I mean, it's not quite principled when Israel is the only beneficiary you're talking about. But if you are for America alone, which is a fair position, you should be ready to accept that China will fill the vacuum. I think that's why Trump wants Greenland, because China was sniffing around to get a base in Greenland. Did you know that China and Russia are both racing for Arctic resources? Russia's recently built a high Arctic base. Is it America first to have an American base in Greenland? There already is one, by the way. I think so, because the goal is to push the Russians and the Chinese out. Is it an America only position to have an American base in Greenland? No, obviously not. But going back 200 years ago, the US military projected its might around the world, not to be a globo cop, but to protect the interests of the US 200 years ago. More than 200 years ago, 225 years ago, the US Navy was fighting the Barbary pirates off of the Libyan coast to stop the Muslim slave traders who were raiding American ships. Thomas Jefferson was fine with those battles. It was halfway around the world, but it was protecting American interests. So America first, of course, sounds great. Very Trumpy. We haven't been able to manage it in trade relations here in Canada. I think that's in part because Mark Carney prefers to fight with Trump for domestic reasons. But America first in many ways means Canada first because it's getting out of wokeness, it's getting towards energy production again. It's deregulating, it's strengthening liberty. I love America first, and I think Canada should be similar. Trump is America First. It's in half his executive orders. He's not America only and he never has been. Go read his tweets going back 15 years, because America only is actually another way of saying make way for China or Iran or whomever. But what about the phrase, And I see more and more Republican circles online saying Christ is King if you haven't seen it. Now, to me, that's a religious statement, a Christian statement. I think I'm a bit more private about religious discussions than many people are. But whenever I see a Republican activist declare Christ is king. I'm delighted. I mean, isn't that a core tenet of being Christian? And I say that as a Jew because I know that the standard Jewish prayers always start the same way. I'll translate into English. In the Hebrew, it's referenced to blessed art thou, God, King of the universe or King of the world. So the Jews start every prayer with God, King of the world, which I take to be the analogous saying of Christ is king for Christians. And if you don't believe that Christ is king, I think you're missing the core principle of Christianity. That's sort of what the whole religion is based on, isn't it? It's a foundation for things. Of course, Christ is king, superior to any flesh and bone. King is the meaning Christ is superior to mortal kings, or for that matter, any mere politician. That's what I love about the phrase Christ is king. It's a statement that whoever says it puts things above politics, above materialism, that it informs their political beliefs, of course, but Christianity is number one for them. I'm incredibly comfortable with that. In fact, I think the whole world depends on that, because Christianity depends on that. And the safety and prosperity of the world, in my view, depends on Christianity. But if I may, and maybe it's a bit dangerous for me to weigh in here for much of the troll right, the Nick Fuentes Nazi right, saying Christ is king isn't a description of one's humility or one's submission to God. It's sort of a test of the other guy, a probe of the other guy to see if they'll agree and who gets to best the other guy. I mean, it's a. It's sort of crazy that such an anti Christian pagan as Nick Fuentes, who idolizes Stalin and Hitler, has the temerity to even use the phrase raise your right hand.

Ezra Levant (36:47)

Yeah, Nick Fuentes is not Christian. And when people like that use the phrase Christ is king, they're not saying it as a statement of their own faith, but as a kind of trump card, if you pardon the pun. There are some true Christians for whom Christ is king is how they live. But I see too many on the troll right just saying that as a talking point. They actually never go to church, they don't know the Bible, they've never read it, and they live the opposite way. They put politics and punditry and arguing ahead of everything, especially ahead of Christianity. I don't say Christ is King because I'm not Christian. But as you know, Rebel News tries to follow Judeo Christian values. And an important part of our editorial mission at Rebel is to support Christians and to fight for Christians when they're under attack. Whether that's in Iraq where as you know, we crowdfunded $200,000 to help rescue Christian families and get them out of there from the threat of isis. Or here in Canada where we helped defend many Christian churches that were targeted during the COVID lockdowns, like Arthur Pavlovsky in Calgary, but also a dozen churches from coast to coast. I mention all this because there is a huge battle going on online maga. America first, America only Christ is King. And it's gaining momentum because it's being fueled by online robots, fake accounts obviously administered by foreign actors. I'm not just talking about Russia today, which is very public about it. I'm talking about Qatar's massive influence operation in America. Almost $100 billion across Congress, colleges, think tanks and corporations. That's not just bigger than Israel, that's bigger than every other country combined. Crazy thing is Qatar. There's only 300,000 Qatari citizens, only 10% of the people there. It's basically a town with a lot of indentured workers and expats. It's crazy that it's even a country, let alone one that dropped 100 billion buying influence. The trouble though, with a swarm of robots from repeating messages undermining Trump or pushing for Russia or Iran or Qatar or generally demoralizing the country. Like Tucker taking on Winston Churchill or when he insults Christian Zionists. Most of it's fake, but young people live online. They're on their phones 12 hours a day. They consume hundreds, even thousands of messages from accounts repeating those same slogans. Turning against Trump but much more importantly turning against America. Demanding that America retreat not just America first, but America only the Jews and Israel are the chief threat to the west and that Christianity should be hostile to Jews and Israel. I just can't get over Tucker saying he hates no one more then he hates Christian Zionists. Remember that.

Ezra Levant (40:32)

Now, if you're over 50 years old, it could be that none of what I've just said makes sense to you. You might be saying, what's with the word game games? Who cares? It's all slogans. What are you even talking about? I've never even heard of this. Well, that's because you don't have a TikTok account and you're not on other apps aimed at teens and 20 somethings. I even see high schoolers flipping sides, being groomed online to hate Trump, to hate America, to support Qatar, to despise Israel, to give China and Russia a pass. It's boiling over in America online. I see it starting to splash over into Canada, too. And as a pro Christian, pro Trump Canadian Jew, I feel that part of our editorial mission at Rebel News is to push back against it and to stand for the national interest, the Canadian interest, and to stand up for harmony between Christians and Jews and to love the United States, not to hate it either as the troll right does or as the Mark Carney Liberals do. You know, we have here for a decade at Rebel News, you know, we've covered more attacks on churches than any other news outlet in Canada. We've crowdfunded more legal defenses for churches and pastors than anyone else. And I don't know if you remember, but we even once crowdfunded to put a new roof on a church on an Indian reserve. Remember that. I believe in America first for Americans, Canada first for Canadians. And I agree with my Christian friends that they ought to believe that Christ is king and they ought to live that way. More importantly, I don't believe in the splittest information operation that has been unleashed on our teenagers and college students. And unfortunately, we'll have to do as much battle on the troll right as we have typically done on the woke left. What do you think? Stay with us for more from Sheila Gunn Reed down in Belem, Brazil. Well, one of our favorite things to do is to cover things that other people don't cover around the world, things that affect us here in Canada, even though they happen, for example, in the streets of Davos, Switzerland, in the case of the World Economic Forum, or this week in the case of Belem, that's the name of a city in Brazil. Joining us now from Brazil is our intrepid reporter, our chief reporter, Sheila Gun Reed, who will explain what is she doing halfway around the world, Sheila. It's not Davos, it's sort of slum y compared to it. You're at the UN Global Warming Conference, aren't you?

Sheila Gunn Reid (Field Reporter) (47:30)

Sheila Gunn Reed for Rebel News. I'm here in Belem, Brazil. I'm here covering the United Nations Climate Change Conference. You might call it COP30. That's what they say in the UN parlance, but really it's the gathering of the hypocrites. And it happens every single year. Now, right now, I'm standing in one of the first revitalization projects that the city of Belem underwent. It's called Nova Doka. That's the park name. It's a long linear park and it goes along a canal. Now, the canal is. Is one of those untreated sewage canals, but the city has done its best to disguise it by planting flowers in the untreated sewage. And just in time for the United Nations Climate Change Conference. The sewage is actually claiming the lives of the flowers. It's called Novodoka, but I'm calling it Fart Park. We were in this park initially on the lookout for the. The infamous fiberglass trees that were made by a Brazilian artist and erected in place of the trees that were slashed down to create the facility for the climate change conference. And the highway through the Amazon for the climate change conference. I think roughly $5 million Canadian were spent on the fiberglass trees. I have yet to find them. I will though, before I go home. Instead, I found what they're calling an eco tree again because they cut down a bunch of trees in the place of the real trees. They've erected these rebar structures and then put fast growing vines up the structure again in lieu of actual trees. And let me remind you, we are in the Amazon rainforest. Look, people who watch my work know that I am by no means an animal rights activist. I realize that animals and humans are all part of the circle of life and of course, you know, I eat animals. But there was something very tragic and heartbreaking about seeing these little birds plucking around in the raw, untreated sewage in a park that is here to, to mask the environmental damage that took place for the environmentalists to have their week long party.

Sheila Gunn Reid (Reporter in Brazil) (50:28)

You know, it's actually really difficult to find the road. It took us some time and we had to get creative. But the road roughly translates to freedom highway. But you're definitely not free to go looking for it or to report on it. It's a 13 kilometer stre of highway through environmentally sensitive portions of the Amazon rainforest. And it was first tabled as a project in 2012. They said, you know what, we probably shouldn't be doing this. But when they were worried about the traffic congestion around having 55,000 delegates. That's just delegates. That's not the environmental activists and busybodies who fly in. I think it's probably half as many more that fly in for the conference. They're worried about the traffic congestion. So they thought, let's advance this project where they carve a highway through the rainforest. And look, before we get too deep into this, I'm pro highway. I think highways can be built responsibly. But this is, you know, when, when they're telling me that my summer road trip is the problem while okaying a highway through the rainforest that doesn't make Any sense to me now, we went looking for this highway. You can sort of kind of see where it might be on a map. And we had, you know, a year ago, other media outlets had satellite footage of it and drone footage. You cannot find that now, like you, there's no two days version of drone footage of it. And there's a reason for that. We actually met a man in the city, and he works security on this highway. And he said, well, part of my job at that, at the highway is to shoot down the drones. And so we knew that if we were able to find it, if we put the drone up, which we do have with us, we would just lose the footage anyway. But we were able to find the highway by locating something on the map that was close. And then we sort of just hiked in and it's very hard to find. We did find it. We were able to get close enough to it. But when I was there, man alive, Ezra, that highway is the least ecologically damaging thing that I saw there because it's just garbage. Just garbage everywhere. Garbage floating in the tributaries, garbage floating in the rivers. People swimming in the rivers of garbage, while I can't use a straw at home. And there's a highway through the. Through the rainforest right there. But we were able to get some footage of the highway and show people. And I think it's really ironic that there are so many journalists here for the United Nations Climate Change Conference, and not a single one of them was intrepid enough to find this highway and show people what it is and where it is.

Ezra Levant (61:19)

All right, there it is. Sheila Gun Reed from Belem, Brazil. And you can see all of her work@rebelun.com and if you want to chip in a little bit to cover our economy class airfare down there and the Airbnb they're in, I sure would appreciate the help. Please go to Rebel un. Stay with us. More ahead. Hey, welcome back. Your letters to me on how Carney is attempting to implement World Economic Forum style managed stakeholder capitalism. Robert Cout says the uk, like the eu, Australia and Canada, are all on the same agenda to destroy our economies and collapse our democratic societies. Who benefits from that? Well, corporations do. I mean, just I think of immigration when I think of everyone's got to get a bank account, everyone's got to get a cell phone. So there's certain capitalists who love mass immigration. I suppose to answer the question more about a managed economy is, you know, the oligarchs. If you have an enormous holding in Brookfield Asset Management, you'll always do fine. It's just ordinary people and working people in the middle class that gets squeezed. Acepath3001 says Carney despises the potential that Canada's youth has. He probably doesn't think of it that way. He probably thinks I'm wiser than anyone. I ran the bank of England. I ran the bank of Canada. I was with Goldman Sachs. I was the chairman of Brookfield. I know more than anyone else. I'm the smartest person in the room. I don't need to listen to anyone else. Remember that story I told about. Oh my God. Who's in charge of making sure all the right amount of bread go to the right bakeries and restaurants in Paris? The answer is no one is. It's spontaneous order as opposed to planned chaos. I think that Mark Carney is a socialist in the vein of. He wants to be the central planet there. Big Terry Xag says he fled Winnipeg in shame last night as well. I think you're talking about the arena that when they announced Mark Carney had booze for him here. Let me know if you can hear it in the background sound here. 1.