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EZRA LEVANT | Gavin McInnes talks antisemitism, masculinity, and the future of young men
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Gavin McInnes
Foreign.
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Ezra Levant
Tonight, a talk about young men with Gavin McInnes, the inventor of hipsterism and vice. You're watching the Ezra Levant show. Shame on you, you sensorian. Bu. Rebel News has almost 2 million subscribers under YouTube, which is sort of a miracle because for I think it was eight years, they throttled us, they completely demonetized us. But that's pretty big. In fact, it's the largest news following in Canada that is not with a state outlet. The CBC actually has more, I will confess, but no other private media does. But I attributed probably half a million of those YouTube subscribers to our guest today. His name is Gavin McInnes, and in the early days, he, I think, lived up to the highest ideals of being a rebel. Sense of humor, skewering political correctness, and sort of sneaking in a conservative message. I think he was hip with the cool kids before that was a thing. I mean, in fact, he was, I think, in the vein of Dr. Jordan Peterson, 12 Rules for Life. How to be a man, before any of that stuff had a proper name. Joining me now from New York is our friend Gavin McInnes. Gavin, great to see you again. I say it to everyone. I really think you helped build Rebel News, especially in the early days.
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Gavin McInnes
I appreciate that. I'm not bananas about the term helped. I think I built Rebel News, and I think half a million is about half a million.
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Ezra Levant
You know what, though? You. You saw something before most people did that young men had no one talking to them, listening to them, respecting them, and showing them the way. I think Andrew Tate came in later, and he had his many flaws. Jordan Peterson came in later, and in a way, Charlie Kirk came in later. But I think you were. You identified that young men, not just young white men, other. Other young men, too, didn't have anyone in society that they could say, I want to follow that guy. I want to. I want to live my potential and be like that guy. I really think you played that role. You made a movie to that effect called how to Be a Man.
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Gavin McInnes
I did indeed. Yeah. I think it's kind of Canadian culture. It's hoser culture, and that is rooted in Scottish culture, which is like, your partner's rotten. Come on, get up. You eat, Jesse. And when I found out that my producer, Ben Ratner, was a virgin at the age of 24 and didn't have a problem with it, I said, we are in big trouble. This is an issue. And so I started the proud boys as this sort of jokey way to get men to be men again, like, grow some Facial hair, drink some beer, get a motorcycle, practice some sort of boxing. And I think it exploded not because of my irreverent charm, but because there was this massive demand for it. Men want to be men, men wanted men's clubs and men had men's clubs from the Industrial revolution to the 80s. So when I started one on a lark, it just exploded because if someone was put, political correctness had put their finger in the dam of masculinity and all I had to do was was pull it out. And it's, it's a natural evolution. Men like hanging out with guys. And I remember it started to blab on, but when I was a kid in Kanata, Ontario, which is near Carp, we called them Carpies. They were really just rednecks, they were hosers. And they found out that I was a virgin at 17 and they go, big cammies at the house right now is willing. If you don't come over here right now and take care of this, we are going to pound the crap out of you. And I just took that same mentality to New York City.
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Ezra Levant
You know, it's funny because young people, millennials, Gen Z, they're dating less than ever. They're having sex less than ever, they're getting married less than ever. They're starting families less than ever. I think some of it's pornography, some of it's video games. I'm terrified when you add in a humanoid robot to those things, what that's going to do. I mean, Elon Musk has pledged to put 1 million humanoid robots into the world. And I think if men can get an AI girlfriend more easily than a real life girlfriend, I'm really worried about two things. I think being a man includes several parts. One is working hard to pay for your family. Well, if a robot does that for you, you don't have any need to get up early and work hard. That's half of being a man, half of and I think interacting with women, knowing how to propose and interact with women, if that's replaced by robots, I mean, I don't want to sound goofy or sci fi here, but I'm worried about that. Yuval Noah Harari of the World Economic Forum says the future for people like that is drugs and video games.
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Gavin McInnes
You know who you're talking to? I am the leader in the anti talking about robots movement. Yesterday we did an entire show talking about how sick we are of hearing people talk about effing humanoids. That's not a thing. Those things are always going to cost $230,000 there will always be made to do our work. You're definitely right, though, about pornography. Only fans. Me too. Those have all destroyed dating. They've made men petrified of women. But don't go doing that Fox News thing where we leak into the possibility of humanoids. They are way too expensive. I did a whole show yesterday on the myth of robots.
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Ezra Levant
All right, I look forward to reading it. I.
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Gavin McInnes
Reading it. Watching it.
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Ezra Levant
Sorry, watching it. Pardon me.
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Gavin McInnes
I don't know.
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Ezra Levant
I mean, the sex industry was at the leading edge of videotape. Leading edge of the Internet. I. I'm not deeply familiar with the sex industry, but I've got to imagine there are billions of dollars being spent on sexual purposes for robots. And even if it's not a mass item, I think it'll further erode the interaction between the sexes.
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Gavin McInnes
I strongly disagree with you on this. It's the one thing that I've disagreed with you on in about 30 years.
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Ezra Levant
I made a joke to my wife yesterday. I said that there'll be a market for male robots that just go like this and say, huh, huh. My wife was telling me a story that was so long, and I said, we need a robot just to be so very, very attentive. That would sell. Tell me that wouldn't sell.
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Gavin McInnes
Take a picture of your face like this and then print out your eyes and then cut out the glasses shape of your eyes and glue them onto the back of your glasses facing out. And then you could just be like this. Like. She tells stories. It'll take her hours to notice. Then on your swollen, just play a loop of huh, huh. Huh. No, let's not let our humanoid war distract us from a very important subject, which is, you know, men have given up. And I think, I'm sorry to be crude, but I think masturbating is a big part of this. You know, when, when you and I were young, a picture of a naked lady was the biggest deal in the universe. You would fold it, you'd put it at your wallet, you'd put masking tape on the folds so that it wouldn't fall apart as you folded and unfolded it 300 times in your Velcro wallet. Now they have pornography that is. It's so disgusting. It's all incest and trannies. And they're off on this wild tangent. When girls finally do comply, they end up with this, you know, sodomite pervert who, who acts like he's the Sultan of Dubai and just added another girl to his harem. So she's Completely turned off too. Another major factor that no one discusses is boomers and their divorce. They invented divorce in the 80s and I remember being 10 and seeing all my friends crying at Christmas because their parents got divorced on a whim because they were bored. And what that did is it traumatized Gen X and they, they just don't want to get married anymore. And they, you see all these women my age, our age, and they're, they're childless and they're 50 and they're really depressed because they screwed up. So you know, I'm known as the proud boys guy, the white supremacist guy, the Nazi, the, the Vice magazine guy. But my real work today, and by the way, we've got a 24 hour marathon coming up at 2pm on censored TV. That's why I'm wearing this tux. My, my goal, my job is to get guys to put a ring on it. And I, for, for the media never reports on this, but I literally have hundreds upon hundreds of emails from people sending me their baby pics and saying, thanks man, you taught me to get off my ass and put a ring on it. And that is more important than pretty much anything is getting more Western families.
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Ezra Levant
Yeah. You know, there are certain things that I think make a man. One of them is military or adventure or travel or, or some contained lawful violence, not chaotic violence, but joining the army. I mean it's, it's hard to believe that Winston Churchill was in five wars in his life. There was a time when you reached a certain age, you went off to seek your fortune, AKA fight in the empire somewhere. Now I see the United Kingdom is talking really butch about maybe we need conscription, maybe we're going to go to war in Europe for Ukraine. And I think that men have been demoralized. I think you've got a leftist prime minister who has a war not of necessity but of ideology. And I think that there's no British patriotic mass that says, yeah, right on. We'll follow this wishy washy, self hating, anti British prime minister into a whimsical war against Russia. Like it's so interesting that he's reaching for that butch. We want a strong army. After basically denigrating men, drumming white straight men out of the military and now expecting them to serve one of his political missions. I think it's very fascinating to watch the reaction in the uk. No one wants to fight.
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Gavin McInnes
Well, look at what the military has done to itself. Talk to any real man, any Green Beret, someone like Terry Shappert down Here in the States and they go, the military's been ruined. Every time you try to be a real man, you're chastised, you're reprimanded. You use the wrong pronouns. You know, you were too rude, like think of, of. Of platoon or whatever. With these drill sergeants are screaming in your face saying things I can't say on Rebel or you'll get deplatformed. And the reason you do that, there's a method to the madness. You're, you're, you're separating the weak from the chat. And without that, you don't have a military. You don't have a weak military. You don't have a military. So the war on masculine masculinity is leaked into to every facet of our lives, including the military. And that's really dangerous. You know, the importance of traditional masculinity is the patriarchy, and the patriarchy is good for everyone. Like, if you have a turkey farm, you. It's all females. You throw in a male, he's not there to, to make more turkeys, they're done. They're going to die that year. There, there's just an order it magically imposes when a man is on a farm. And that's why a lot of farmers will have a bull with their cows. Not because he's there to breed, but because there's something about a bull when it's around cows that it makes the cows behave better. And that's true of human society. Like, if these commie Marxist LGBTQ weirdos ever got their utopia, they would be the first to. We gays, lesbians, everything, and minorities, they're safest under our rule. Yeah.
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Ezra Levant
You know, it's funny because the one military in the world, I mean, Israel's military, is pretty much. They do have women who participate, I should say. And I don't know enough about that to judge it, but under Pete Hegeseth, first of all, they changed it from the Department of Defense to the Department of War. They're aesthetically pumping out all sorts of ads that look extremely, you know, violent, as in, as opposed to a place of diversity. And Hegseth himself goes out and does push ups and trains with the men. I think they're trying to revisit, masculate the military. They called all the generals together for a huddle in D.C. and it was actually, we're going to get rid of the affirmative action business to get rid of the green, the world's greenest military. So I think that what they're doing there is symbolic, but it's much deeper than that. It realizes that men, young men, they're going to fight. The only question is, what will they fight for and how will they do it? I don't know. I mean, will they. This will take men who are full of brimming with emotion and channel it in a patriotic way as opposed to, you know, anything else, which would be worse, I suppose.
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Gavin McInnes
Yeah, we had a formula for this. This is not rocket science. I really feel like in many ways we peaked in the 80s and early 90s and then somehow we lost the plot and decided that fat, ugly lesbians should be in charge. And it's, it's the demise of the West. And I, I think there's, I think with Trump, that was sort of a turning point. I mean, Britain is way behind. Canada is still self sabotaging with this Mark Manley loser. But I, I think with Trump, it's sort of signified a general change in the entire Western world, which is we're mad as hell and we're not going to take it anymore. Like, we played your game for a while and, and we're not doing it. I've noticed this with racism too. Like two years ago you called me racist and I would go, no, no, no, no, that's not, you're misunderstanding. That's. Let me explain the context. And now someone calls you that and you just go, yeah, whatever. I don't. That word doesn't exist to me. I get my local bar the other day, this black woman, she wanted like the beer to be free and I just interjected, I go, you're talking about a buyback. And you get that after maybe five drinks. The beers here are five bucks. That's the cheapest right around. So I don't know what you're complaining about. And she goes, just a black woman living in a white man's world. Now. Two years ago I would have went, it's not about that. It's about the. And this time, and this is only a few years later, everyone around me just laughed. We just went, okay, okay, yeah, sure. Like it's, we've done being ashamed.
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Ezra Levant
You know, it's interesting. There was this attack in Australia a few days ago at Bondi beach, and there were five security guards there who were unarmed. The police who attended at first, I think three out of four of them were women. And they did not rush towards the gunmen. They ducked and covered. And I'm not saying they didn't do anything, but that gunman went on for 20 minutes. The police station was three minutes away. It reminds me also of the Secret Service agent. When Trump was shot, the female Secret Service agent got flustered, didn't know what to do. And I'm not saying that women can't serve in certain roles, but in an absolute crisis, in a panic where you literally have to run towards bullets, climb up the Twin towers when they're under attack, those things are masculine. And I don't know. I don't know exactly what a boss girl is. There's this iconic picture of a huffing.
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Gavin McInnes
What a dick.
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Ezra Levant
The Huffington Post editorial board sitting around a table. It's almost all women and it's almost all white. And they said this is the apex. They were so proud of what they call diversity. Single, liberal white women. I don't know. I just. I think things have gone too far. And again, just like men have certain instincts, if you have a woman who cannot express her maternal instincts naturally, like Angela Merkel, who didn't have any kids, well, she'll bring in 5 million Syrians. Those are her children. She'll project her maternal instincts on foreign, military age migrant men. That's how she'll scratch that itch. I really think that's what that is.
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Gavin McInnes
Look, women can't write, all right? My favorite writers are women. Ann Coulter, Michelle Macken, Laura Helbrand, the chick who wrote Unbroken. That doesn't mean that women can write. You could say your favorite basketball players are Chinese guys, but Chinese people tend not to be good at basketball, so the two are not mutually exclusive. I think we have to come to terms with the possibility that certain groups are better at certain things. Tall black guys are good in the NBA. We do not need diversity in the NBA or it will hurt basketball.
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Ezra Levant
Right.
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Gavin McInnes
And directing movies is a very tough job. You've got to remember all the shots you need. You have to be an A hole and be like, you can't act. You're fired. You're salvageable. We'll do this. 50 more takes. It's a very masculine thing, but people just assume we need more female directors. We need more women in action movies. No, we don't. And even writing, this is a pretty controversial opinion, but even writing, you got beginning, a middle, and an end. You got opening paragraphs to book come in. You have to research the crap out of it and make sure you're right. And then the conclusion has to be this sort of wise summary of everything you've been talking about.
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Ezra Levant
It's.
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Gavin McInnes
It's very math oriented. It's very stem. And women aren't good at that. And that's why when you look at most female written articles, they do research and it's like living as a single mom on her third kid and trying to figure out my future in dating. Like, it's always me, me, me, talking about myself. They're just out there. So I'm hoping that we can re embrace meritocracy and accept, sorry, men are better in at least the violent part of the military. Men are better generally at writing, directing. Black guys are better at basketball and most sports. Like, let's just ignore the fact that we there's too much of one group in a thing and embrace the fruits of their labor.
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Ezra Levant
Now, I started off by talking about your tenure at Rebel News, which started 10 years ago. We turned 10 years old this year. The world was so very different. Free speech was a thing. They didn't censor you on YouTube in 2015, 2016. It was only really when Trump won, in part because of social media, that the crackdown began in February, March, sorry, January, February of 2017. So you were with us during the golden years of commentary, and your videos would often get a million views. That happens very rarely to us these days. And I don't think it's because we've changed. I think it's because we still remain under some throttling. That said, I think the online movement has metastasized, if I'm saying that word right. I think. And you know these folks better than me because I know you've done some shows with them. Nick Fuentes, Candace Owens, even some folks adjacent to infowars. I think they've gone absolutely crazy. I think they've gone nuts. I mean, you can be politically incorrect. You and I have just spent the last 20 minutes being sexist and a little bit racist and ableist and transphobic, whatever. But I see people larping live action role playing as actual Nazis. Nick Fuentes says Hitler was cool. What the hell is going on with them?
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Gavin McInnes
I think Nick is becoming the more moderate of the group you mentioned, but I'll defend Nick in this sense. You do as a young man. You get, you're white, you're evil. Hitler, Hitler, Hitler. And so you say, yeah, I love Hitler. I think he's cool. It's like what I was saying earlier with racism. You're a racist. And you go, yeah, I am a racist. I love it. And I don't think these kids really, you know, admire Hitler, especially the millions of people he killed. I think it's a reaction to the chastising of political correctness and even when they, you know, like this guy, he calls himself woman propaganda, he goes, yeah, I'm a racist. I'm a proud racist. People need to be more racist. And then I see that his business partner is. What's his name? Myron Gaines, a Sudanese guy from. His parents are African. So I think a lot of this is tongue in cheek, but, you know, it's sort of like cocaine. Like, these people are doing a bump of anti Semitism and they're becoming insane cokeheads. And Nick, to his credit, you know, he's dialing it back and going, wait, guys, slow down. Israel did not murder Charlie Kirk. Like, let's follow Occam's razor. But the rest of them have surpassed Nick. And now it's Jews. Did Bondi Beach Jews. Like, there was just some Orthodox Jews strangled in the subway right by my studio. That was Jews setting up random black dudes who. Their, their clothes look very authentic. And they're, they're training these, these, these Negroes to attack Jews in order to gain sympathy. Massive terror attack was thwarted by Kash Patel. That was Jews. And you go, you guys have. It's become a pathology. You started with some, some general truth, like, like, you know, a disproportionate number of the politically correct movement are, are secular Jews. Yeah, that's true. But you've drawn that out to. Everything that happens to Jews is Jews. And I've, I've. I've gone from being mildly annoyed by it to getting really angry. I mean, they, they become like vegans. It's all they talk about.
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Ezra Levant
Yeah, that's the thing. I mean, it's like every inkblot, Jews, juice Jews, they just can't stop thinking about it. Christopher Hitchens. There's a great video. Maybe we can dig it up and put it in the, in this clip, he says there's, there's a lot of different ways you could hate people. You can hate black people because maybe they. You worried they're criminals. You can hate people from India. India because maybe you think they're cooking smells or something. Like, he, he listed the specific things that people don't like about other races. But then he said anti Semitism is different because it's part of this whole cosmic theory that the Jews run everything. Everything is like. It's like, you don't think, oh, everything in my life that's wrong, it's because of the Indians. It's like it. He, he tried to distinguish antisemitism from other races. And I thought, yeah, I think anti Semitism Makes people go a little mental. And there's too many people who I admired on the right, some of whom I worked with, some of whom I really looked up to, who have just taken. Like. It's a kind of pill where you take it and like you just said, you can explain anything away. It's the universal excuse for why things are wrong in the world. And it's the universal excuse for why your life isn't going well. That is such a corrosive thing to believe in and so unconservative.
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Christopher Hitchens
Because this is a very, very serious cultural danger. And it's only a fool who thinks that antisemitism is a threat to Jews. And antisemitism is a very, very toxic threat to everything we can decently call civilization. And it confers upon us when we find it even a little bit, because it's quite hard to be. Mildness is good.
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Ezra Levant
I love.
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Christopher Hitchens
It's generally quite hard to be a little bit anti Semitic. And I should just end when you. Where you started about the psychosis. Of course, Steve Coakley was a psycho. He couldn't stay off the subject of the Jews. Most people who have this prejudice can't stay off it. That's the thing. If someone says they don't like West Indians because of their. I don't know what it might be, their music, or they don't like Indians because of the smell of their cooking, or they don't like Koreans for their kimchi, whatever it might be. Everyone, every minority and majority in the world has a version of this kind of prejudice. But as Freud pointed out, they'll all sink their differences when it comes to the Jews. And with the Jews, it's not their cooking or their sex lives or any of this. And it's not just vulgar prejudice about skin color or smell or any of this. It's a theory. It's a paranoid theory that tries to explain quite a lot. It's fascinated with gold, with secret documents, with missing codicils in ancient treaties, with the idea of an invisible and secret government. It's a very, very, very dangerous pseudo intellectual prejudice indeed. And I think Bellot was quite, absolutely right to be seismic about it. And if the cost of that was sometimes exaggerating it or maybe even conceivably once or twice, seeing it when it wasn't there, I now think that's a very small price to pay compared to the risks of being insensitive to it and the dangers that it poses.
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Gavin McInnes
Well, with black people here in New York, because I go to a boxing Gym. I go to the bar, I have my show with cops on it and we're approaching 50% with antisemitism. And like half the cops are like Gavin, why won't you name the Jew? They call me Goyvin. And then the other half of the cops are like, what happened to you guys? Like what pill did you swallow? And then at the gym, the black dudes, I think that there's been some deep seated anti whiteness there and the anti Semitism has allowed them to indulge in their anti white hate because they, you know, they, they see Jews as like the most exceptional whites. So I get to contact, you know, the eye of the storm and it's this confluence of, of bubbling hatred and self hatred, whites hating themselves that has all exploded on into this name the Jew. And here's, here's a controversial view. I think it's good. You know why?
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Ezra Levant
Why?
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Gavin McInnes
Because I'm hoping these secular Jews realize that it's not mega, it's that they've been totally focused on white supremacy. Even Australia today has a commercial out with Ostica saying, you know, we need to stop all these Nazis, stop Islamophobia. I'm hoping that all of this anti Semitism shows secular Jews, because orthodox Jews were hip to this a long time ago, that you've been chasing the wrong tail. It's not white supremacy, it's Marxist young rich college students, including Jews. It's the refugees that you embraced and said refugees welcome here. And it's the brothers, it's the radical blacks that you thought liked you. Those three groups hate your guts and maga. There's no red hats in these crowds. Like remember you were at FIT and a bunch of rich white kids, probably some, plenty of Jews in there, were.
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Ezra Levant
Attacking fit of all pursuit of technology in New York. I remember that I was shocked when I went to you and I went to the sit in the encampment at Fashion Institute Technology and also at Columbia. I was startled by how many non Muslim people were there. There were whites. Every trans activist on campus seemed to be there. I was startled by how many Asian women like Chinese American women.
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Gavin McInnes
Well, it's fashion and Asians tend to overachieve. So if this is the thing that everyone's doing, I'm going to assimilate and overachieve in it. And, and that, and that's a huge part of it too is it's fashion. I look, I think hate is natural. We all have it in US and society. I blame mostly Marxist teachers have taught us that you could Only hate one group, and that is whites. And Jews are the king of the whites. So everyone is funneling all their natural animosity, which is a normal thing to happen. You were all tribal. And they've directed all of it in that one little opening in the pressure cooker that is white. Jews and whites are both in that, and it's just blasting full on at them.
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Ezra Levant
Yeah.
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Gavin McInnes
You know, I hope it, I hope pushes the. What is it? The, the window, the Occam's window. What the hell they call it the Overton window. Open, pushes it to the right.
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Ezra Levant
You know, I think it is making some Jews wake up, but that's just such a small percentage of North America. I mean, Jews are 2% of America, 1% of Canada. Yeah, I like the fact that some Jews are finally waking up to reality, but I am much more worried about this critical mass who are, I think, guided by, like you say, a hatred that has been permitted. And you know, Tucker Carlson, whenever anyone asks him about his motivations, he lashes out and says, as an American, I'm free to have these opinions. I'm free to buy property in Qatar. No one's saying, you're not free to say these things, but you're saying them. And, and there's no one who's saying, you've gone too far. I mean, people are starting to. But, I mean, Tucker used to be my hero, Gavin. I was on his show several times. I thought, that guy is ideologically my hero. He's professionally my hero. Look at his success. And he's taking 30 years of reputation and he is deploying it not just to criticize Israel, but I get his daily emails. He cannot go a day without mentioning the Jews. And I, I don't know if that was really him or if that's some new opportunism or. I, I just, I honestly swear to God, I do not where know where it comes from. Is it just for cash? Was he always that way? But Fox kept it under wraps. I don't know what's going on.
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Gavin McInnes
I, I like Tucker too. And, and I like a lot of these bad men. But. And I'm happy to discuss Judaism and the Torah and the disposition, disproportionate representation in media. But this is different. This is like raw foodists, vegans, antifa. Like, they, they will not effing stop. Yeah. When they get it and then they get mad at you for not wanting to talk about it. And I, I had a buddy, I was at a wedding recently and we'd be drinking and having A great time. And he'd pull me aside and he'd be like, okay, how can you deny that the top three banking industry. And I would just get back to that again and again and again. It's three in the morning, we're drunk out of our minds. And he pulls me aside to bore me to tears with this crap.
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Ezra Levant
And that's that Hitchens thing is, it's not just, oh, I hate this person because they look funny, sound funny, do something I don't like. It's this cosmic force that's everywhere and gets into everything. It's a mystical thing. I don't know. I'm more worried about it than you are. And I mean, Canada is not as far gone. And I feel like, by the way, that I am a charter member on the populist, nationalist, conservative right. I mean, I feel like I am just as conservative as any of these people, especially certainly in Canada, maybe not in America. And I don't intend to be pushed aside because I also happen to be Jewish. I think Rebel News and our other projects are a core pillar of Canadian conservatism. We haven't seen the same Nazism take hold here, but who knows, Maybe it's.
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Gavin McInnes
Well, I think, I think there is some Jewish culpability here too, with the left wing media and calling everyone a Nazi again and again, and the Anti Defamation League. I've heard. I've been arguing with Jews who hate me. And I talk about Ron Coleman and you and they go, just because those guys are Jewish doesn't mean that we support them. We consider Ezra a Nazi. And I go, all right, well, now what you're doing is you're creating a golem and you're going to. The pushback is going to be way worse than the four or five white supremacists you managed to dig up.
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Ezra Levant
Yeah, Gavin, I know you've got to run because you, you do all sorts of TV projects on your own. Tell our people one more time where they can find your work online.
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Gavin McInnes
So my Twitter's back. I have the longest band in the history of Twitter, seven years. And they. Elon brought me back. That's Gavin underscore. McInnes. McInnes. But I'm very excited about this marathon. It starts 2pm today. I don't know if this is live, but it starts at 2pm today, Friday. And we're going to go for at least 24 hours. And there's going to be bands and cops coming by and pizza and fist fights. We've got a midget who can do the Alphabet backwards. It's, it's going to be incredible. And there'll be super chats. It'll be on our YouTube also, which is compound censored. And it'll, I think I'm going to try to put it on our Twitter. It's going to be everywhere and rumble. So it's very exciting. 2pm in one hour. Is this live?
- [32:56]
Ezra Levant
No, it's not live, but I'm sure people can watch the replays on YouTube. Rumble and Twitter.
- [33:02]
Gavin McInnes
Yeah, well, we're going to, we're going to chop it up and spread it out over the next two weeks because I'm going away. But yeah, it's, it'll be fun.
- [33:11]
Ezra Levant
Ryan, great to see you. Thanks for joining me. I know we talked about some heavy stuff, but I really wanted your point of view of it. Thanks for, thanks for meeting and talking.
- [33:19]
Gavin McInnes
Merry Christmas. Can I say Merry Christmas?
- [33:20]
Ezra Levant
You sure can. And I'll say it back to you, my friend. Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah, too. Take care. There he is. Gavin McInnes, one of my favorite troublemakers and one of the original talents that helped build Rebel News. That's our show for the day. Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World headquarters, to you at home, good night and keep fighting for freedom.
- [33:43]
Gavin McInnes
Sam.