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EZRA LEVANT | It’s true — Mark Carney is trying to put together an anti-American world coalition
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Hello, my friends. Big show today. I'm going to take you through Mark Carney's speech in response to Marco Rubio's speech. Marco Rubio gave a talk in Munich talking about the proud Western heritage of America. And Mark Carney is saying, yeah, no, we're not the same way, are we? Was he fairly characterizing Marco Rubio's talk? It's more interesting than it sounds. I think it shows a real anti American streak on Mark Carney's behalf. I'll take you through it. But first let me invite you to become a subscriber to Rebel News. Plus, I want to show you the video clips. I want you to see them. To get the video version, you need to go to rebelnewsplus.com and click subscribe. It's eight bucks a month, which really helps us grow because we don't take any government money. And it shows. Oh, yeah, one more thing.
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Tonight. It's true. Mark Carney's trying to put together an anti American World Coalition. It's February 18th and this is the Ezra Levant Show. Shame on you, you censorious. Oh, hi, everybody know I'm looking at my Twitter feed, I'm looking at the news and I'm monitoring the situation. But I have to say I think an attack on Iran, or maybe Iran will attack first, is imminent. I mean, I've been saying that for a couple weeks, but it really feels pregnant. So many assets are being flown into the region by the United States and the UK and other allies. Two aircraft carriers on the scene and I think the most telling warning is Israeli home defense alerts. I think that a war with Iran is coming and I think it's what Donald Trump has been calling for for more than a decade. It's interesting that people have an opinion on what Donald Trump should do and say about China or Iran. And of course, everyone's entitled to their own opinion, including me. But if you go back and read Trump's early tweets, I'm talking about back in back five years before he even ran for president. He tweeted about China and Iran constantly. He thought China was getting away with murder on trade. He still says that now as president. And he was insistent that the deal with Iran on nukes, especially once Barack Obama started giving them everything they wanted, including pallets of cash. Donald Trump has been worried about Iran for a very long time. And I think it's coming to a head now, especially given the murder of the Iranian regime by them of 30, 40,000 of their own citizens. I think the US military dominance that the world saw in Venice, Venezuela, the high tech, the precision, the training, overwhelming the defenses, and China was said to have provided the deterrent, anti missile systems and anti aircraft systems in Caracas, that didn't work. It's going to be put to the test. I mean, I think it's going to be an enormous but brief battle. Venezuela is much smaller than Iran, obviously. And in Venezuela, the goal was very narrow to seize one man and his wife as well and leave the country intact. There were two hours on the ground. Iran is obviously much bigger, 90 million souls. It's much wealthier. It's been run by a death cult for decades, which means they've had years to harden their assets, to build military installations. I mean, Venezuela is so poor compared to Iran. Iran, though, has had a bad couple of years. All their regional proxies have been defeated. Lebanon has kicked out Hezbollah, and that was after Hezbollah was devastated, decimated by the Israeli cell phone or beeper explosives. As you know, Iran basically ran Syria through Bashar Al Assad. He's been deposed. He lives in Moscow now. Hamas did devastating damage to Israel, especially on the PR side, but Hamas has been defanged largely. And of course, Venezuela itself was a bit of an Iranian client state. So this is the final showdown. All of Iran's proxies are being beaten. I think it's coming. There will likely be casualties. To try something on this largest scale. And I don't think it can all be done from the air. I think there will be a combination of overwhelming air power and then special operations on the ground, including by Israel. I think Israel is going to be do some very heavy lifting. It has the most modern F35 jets and F16s and F15s. And Israel was involved in the 12 day war against Iran, which involved destroying a lot of their ballistic missile sites and their aircraft sites. Anyways, I'm glad Trump doesn't seem to be listening to the Tucker Carlson, Nick Fuente's Qatar wing of the Republican Party. He's following his instincts that he is outlined for more than a decade. Trump is building a coalition to do that. Not the massive coalition that George W. Bush put together a generation ago for the war in the Middle east, but this is a coalition of countries that can actually do something. So Israel has a very powerful military, the United Kingdom is sending air assets, and the little Gulf states in the region, at the very least are allowing the United States to operate. I wonder who else, if anyone, will participate. I know that Canada will not because we literally can't. We don't have modern jets that could operate alongside these very modern equipped American and British and Israeli jets. But our guy Mark Carney is doing very important things. I mean, Donald Trump might be about to free Iran, topple the hostile regime, dump their nukes. He'll move on Cuba imminently to. Donald Trump is reshaping the world. But Mark Carney is busy doing very important things, putting together a global anti Trump coalition. And believe it or not, that's what I want to talk mainly about today. I don't know if you saw this tweet, it was in Politico Europe, so my guess is you didn't see it. I'll read it to you exclusive. The European Union and a 12 nation Indo Pacific bloc are opening talks to explore forming one of the largest global economic alliances. Multiple people with knowledge of the talks told police Politico Canada's Mark Carney is spearheading the discussions. Are you proud that's what Canada is known for? It doesn't surprise me actually. It's what Mark Carney's been doing for a decade. He's been crisscrossing the world not just as Brookfield Asset Management's chairman, but as the head of the global financial alliance for net zero, as the UN's climate ambassador. He had all these jobs at the same time. And he would spend all this time just crisscrossing the world, going from conferences and Davos and meetings and the un. In a way, I think he actually knows more world leaders and vvips than maybe anyone else in the world other than perhaps the playboy Alex Soros, who had inherited those connections from his father George. Now, I think a lot of this is. I think a lot of it is bs. It's just for show. It's propaganda, like the liberals making a big fuss about their trip to Mexico. Let me read to you from Dominic LeBlanc, who's supposed to be in charge of the Canada US relationship. Remember that? Carney said he's the grown up. Dominic LeBlanc is busy in Mexico saying it was an honor to meet with the president of Mexico, Claudia Sheinbaum, to advance the Canada Mexico Comprehensive Strategic Partnership. This Team Canada trade mission to Mexico is a testament to our shared commitment to generate prosperity, security and sustainability for both our countries. But Mexico doesn't really buy much from Canada at all. Canadians export to Mexico a grand total of $8.9 billion and that's down. But Canada imports from Mexico, I don't know, five times as much, $46 billion worth. It's like when Mark Carney went to China. So he agreed to buy 49,000 Chinese electric vehicles. And what did they do for us? Exactly what did they? Isn't the whole idea to sell more, to have them buy our stuff and give us their money? Mexico is fivefold lopsided. We buy their stuff. How's that helping Canada again? But it's anti American, isn't it? Like the whole Greenland escapade of setting up a consulate in a country where there's only 16 Canadians. Greenland. But look at this response to Marco Rubio's big speech in Munich the other day. Widely praised, very well received. Marco Rubio went there to explain the United States foreign policy and in ways that were much less acerbic than J.D. vance's speech last year or than a Trump speech can be, like the one that Trump gave at Davos. Here I want to show you a couple of clips from Marco Rubio's speech. These are chosen almost randomly. It was such a good speech. It was so densely packed. I think Marco Rubio is great. I got to say, I'm. I would love it if he were to go on to become president. He's so thoughtful. He's a master of foreign relations. I think he deeply believes in freedom and he articulates things so well. Take a look at a couple of clips.
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For five centuries before the end of the Second World War, the West had been expanding its missionaries, its pilgrims, its soldiers, its explorers pouring out from its shores to cross oceans, settle new continents, build vast empires extending out across the globe. But in 1945, for the first time since the age of Columbus, it was contracting. Europe was in ruins. Half of it lived behind an iron curtain and the rest looked like it would soon follow. The great Western empires had entered into terminal decline, accelerated by godless communist revolutions and by anti colonial uprisings that would transform the world and drape the red hammer and sickle across vast swaths of the map in the years to come. Against that backdrop, then as now, many came to believe that the West's age of dominance had come to an end and that our future was destined to be a faint and feeble echo of our past. But together, our predecessors recognized that decline was a choice. And it was a choice they refused to make. This is what we did together once before. And this is what President Trump and the United States want to do again now, together with you. And this is why we do not want our allies to be weak, because that makes us weaker. We want allies who can defend themselves so that no adversary will ever be tempted to test our collective strength. This is why we do not want our allies to be shackled by guilt and shame. We want allies who are proud of their culture and of their heritage, who understand that we are heirs to the same great and noble civilization, and who, together with us, are willing and able to defend it. And this is why we do not want allies to rationalize the broken status quo rather than reckon with what is necessary to fix it. For we in America have no interest in being polite and orderly caretakers of the West's managed decline. We do not seek to separate, but to revitalize an old friendship and renew the greatest civilization in human history. What we want is a reinvigorated alliance that recognizes that what has ailed our societies is not just a set of bad policies, but a malaise of hopelessness and complacency. The alliance that we want is one that is not paralyzed into inaction by fear. Fear of climate change, fear of war, fear of technology. Instead, we want an alliance that boldly races into the future. And the only fear we have is. Is the fear of the shame of not leaving our nations prouder, stronger and wealthier for our children. An alliance ready to defend our people, to safeguard our interests, and to preserve the freedom of action that allows us to shape our own destiny. Not one that exists to operate a global welfare state and atone for the purported sins of past generations. An alliance that does not allow its power to be outsourced, constrained or subordinated to to systems beyond its control. One that does not depend on others for the critical necessities of its national life. And one that does not maintain the polite pretense that our way of life is just one among many and that asks for permission before it acts. And above all, an alliance based on the recognition that we, the west, have inherited together. What we have inherited together is something that is unique and distinctive and irreplaceable because this, after all, is the very foundation of the transatlantic bond.
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You know, I should probably go through the entire speech because although it's a few days ago now, it's so important. But my point is, the speech was great. It was well received. It was proud and historic, and it was a good pep talk to the West. Sometimes I think JD Vance and even Trump can make people feel down because he's so bombastic. But Marco Rubio was encouraging people to feel great with him. Sort of the opposite of Mark Carney's whiny anti American speech at Davos, where he basically called for all the little countries to join together to take down the evil usa. Oh, excuse me, all the little countries, plus China.
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We understand that this rupture calls for more than adaptation. It calls for honesty about the world as it is. We are taking the sign out of the window. We know the old order is not coming back. We shouldn't mourn it. Nostalgia is not a strategy. But we believe that from the fracture we can build something bigger, better, stronger, more just. This is the task of the middle powers. The countries that have the most to lose from a world of fortresses and the most to gain from genuine cooperation. The powerful have their power, but we have something too. The capacity to stop pretending, to name reality, to build our strength at home and to act together. That is Canada's path. We choose it openly and confidently. And it is a path wide open to any country willing to take it with us. Thank you very much.
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And on that same trip, he went to China and he told China he wanted to be part of a China led New World Order. Look at this clip. And Scott Moats reaction. I'll never get tired of looking at that. Take a look.
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Mine is the first visit of a Canadian Prime Minister to China in nearly a decade. The world has changed much since that last visit. I believe the progress that we have made in the partnership sets us up well for the New World Order.
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So Marco Rubio's speech was a rejoinder. It was a rebuttal in a way to Carney's speech about being demoralized and being anti American. And I think Mark Carney just couldn't stand that in. Honestly, I don't even know if Marco Rubio saw Mark Carney's speech, but it just was the opposite. So Mark Carney had to respond like he's a pundit or something, like the world is a debate club or something where it's about scoring points as opposed to securing your national interest. So Mark Carney said this. Here's a little clip that Rebel News reposted yesterday.
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Rubio, Ilia and cement. Munich.
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American.
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The Tanson tempal. Then the necessity. Nationalism, creation. Okay, okay, so say. Nationalism. Canadian. The nationalism Canadian. Say nationalism. Civic nationalism. The culture. Divert. The that diversity. Le nationalism.
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Hang on a second. Did Marco Rubio actually say that? Did he really call for Christian nationalism, which to liberals has a certain meaning? It's code for, I don't know, racism or prejudice or something. That's how it's used typically by the Canadian left. Marco Rubio did not say that. In a 22 minute speech, Rubio mentioned the word Christian precisely three times. Let me show you all three times and I'll give you some sentences before and afterwards so you can see I'm not hiding anything. Here. Take a look at this first clip.
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For the United States and Europe, we belong together. America was founded 250 years ago, but the roots began here on this continent. Long before the man who settled and built the nation of my birth arrived on our shores carrying the memories and the traditions and the Christian faith of their ancestors as a sacred inheritance, an unbreakable link between the old world and the new. We are part of one civilization, Western civilization. We are bound to one another by the deepest bonds that nations could share, forged by centuries of shared history, Christian faith, culture, heritage, language, ancestry and the sacrifices our forefathers made together for the common civilization to which we have fallen heir.
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That's really nice. Actually, that is not Christian nationalism as meant by the left, the anti Christian left. That's just talking about our heritage. And it is true. And by the way, especially in Latin America, it were it was Christians coming to be missionaries to save souls. That is how Western civilization spread to the Americas. That's just talking about our history and our heritage. So those were two of the three mentions of the word Christian. And here's the third word, Christian.
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So in a time of headlines heralding the end of the transatlantic era, let it be known and clear to all that this is neither our goal nor our wish. Because for us Americans, our home may be in the Western hemisphere, but we will always be a child of Europe. Our story began with an Italian expression whose adventure into the great unknown, to discover a new world, brought Christianity to the Americas and became the legend that defined the imagination of our pioneer nation. Our first colonies were built by English settlers to whom we owe not just the language we speak, but the whole of our political and legal system, our frontiers were shaped by Scots Irish, that proud, hearty clan from the hills of Ulster that gave us Davy Crockett and Mark Twain and Teddy Roosevelt and Neil Armstrong. Our great Midwestern heartland was built by German farmers and craftsmen who transformed empty plains into a global agricultural powerhouse and, by the way, dramatically upgraded the quality of American beer.
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Yeah, this isn't a hateful speech. This is friendly, diverse, upbeat, historically accurate. Mark Carney says that that's not who Canada is. We're not Christian like that. And he says we're more diverse. Are we really more diverse than America? I'm not sure. But are we really less Christian? Maybe nowadays that we are after a century of, I don't know, Marxism being deployed against our institutions. But does Mark Carney even know the history of Christianity in Canada? Does he know that our Constitution mentions Christianity, specifically Protestants and Catholics, and guarantees rights to those groups several times? Does he know that the very first sentence of our Charter of Rights and Freedoms, even before Section one, the Preamble, refers to the supremacy of God? Does Carney know that the King of Canada, King Charles, is also the head of the Church of England? I think he may believe this is a non Christian or post Christian country, and he's certainly working on that. But by the way, he's making tweets about Ramadan. Even if he's done with the Christians, Mark Carney is the most anti American Prime Minister in the century, and that's his right. And it looks like a lot of Canadians agree with him, especially in Ontario. But just don't pretend that disparaging the United States and sucking up to China and Qatar and declaring Canada unchristian. Just don't pretend that any of that is in Canada's national interest in Carney's interests. As someone trying to whip up votes, sure. As someone who hates the US World order and prefers China, sure. But he is making our country anti American. And don't think that won't add fuel to the fire of Alberta independence. Stay with us for more.
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The most important thing is that the Liberal government is one step closer to majority. I think we're going to be in election season sooner rather than later. As someone who previously denied ever crossing the floor and in fact was going to resign to spend time with family has now crossed the floor to the Liberals. And that is Conservative MP Matt Gennarou from Edmonton, Riverbend. I guess I'll throw it to the guys first. Stockwell Day Comments well, thanks, Sheila.
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I can tell you it's disappointing to see not just obviously as a supporter of the Conservative Party but just from a democratic point of view. When you run to get elected locally you tell people you're going to serve them under a certain party banner and frankly you either were lying at the time or your judgment capabilities are so out of line that maybe you shouldn't be serving. So this is disappointing. Certainly it causes people to be cynical about the process it's going to. It obviously puts pressure on the Conservatives. Now we're in a place I believe there's three liberal by elections coming up all in previously liberal held riding. So will Carney have to go to an election? Maybe, maybe not. But this is very disappointing from democratic process and I hope there will be a robust recall campaign that gets launched to make life at the very least to make life difficult for the MP who has done this.
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Oh good sir, I am working on it already. David, comments from you.
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Yeah, it's a betrayal of his constituents. I but you it's the last political thing you'll be able to do and I think it's very short sighted. I think moves like this by guys like this are so short sighted because it doesn't just violate a democratic principle of constituent representation. It also fundamentally undermines people at a time where they're hurting, they want to be heard, they want to be understood by government that's been kind of evading that and this is a card trick. I also think that basically it points to a likely election coming up. I think this is in so many ways is a big mistake by Matt.
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Yeah, I see former Conservative MP and I think generally a good guy. Rick Perkins has noted that Matt doesn't live in the riding and hasn't for quite some time and that he's already in British Columbia. So run in British Columbia if it opens up. I mean not only are you not now respecting the democratic will of the people of Riverbend, but you aren't even there and then you're going to cross the floor to the Liberals. Matt, I think he won by about six points. So he's held the riding since it was created in 2015 and you know, you sort of as demographics change you've seen sort of that huge gap between the Conservatives and the Liberals closed there. But he's still one handily and you know he's completely ignoring the message sent by those constituents.
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Ezra, you know, floor crossing this quickly after an election with no good reason other than hey I thought I would be more powerful and have a bigger, you know, salary that's an insult to the democratic process, no matter what. I mean, if there were a grand reason in, if they were an important philosophical or ideological reason, I think people would have more patience for it to switch to be a turncoat this soon after an election. And we saw the same thing happen in Nova Scotia a month or so ago. It's outrageous. But let me add one more layer to it, because right now Alberta is gearing up for a referendum on secession. And in fact, I think tomorrow night the premier is going to have an address talking about that. And there are people actively signing petitions to get out of Canada. And the people of Edmonton Riverbend did something positive. They say, no, we're going to vote for a federalist party because we think we can work with the system and elect someone to parliament to challenge the bad directions this country is going. All right, you said work within the system, so we will. So they vote in that district for a conservative. And I haven't checked, but I understand that conservative, that district has always been conservative.
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Yeah, it has.
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So in private backroom arrangements, some inducement, a secret inducement that we do not know, is proffered to this candidate who just ran months ago on being a conservative. What do you think everyone in that district, everyone in that riding is thinking now? They're thinking the obvious. The system is rigged when we do what we're told, when we play within the rules, it's rigged. They buy him off in a corrupt manner. The election was a sham. Imagine making the case for federalism in Edmonton Riverbend saying, hey, guys, no, no, don't lose hope. Just keep at her, guys. Just keep electing conservatives and if we need to, we'll buy them off. But just go through that gerbil wheel, keep running around. I think that Mark Carney didn't realize the separatist echoes of what he did because he just proved the system is broken for Alberta conservatives.
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Docwell.
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Well, I think that adds to it. There's no question. We'll see where the whole discussion goes. I think you want to talk about that in a bit. Relative to separation. I. I have to further what Ezra said. Maybe Matt and I say this charitably, maybe he needs, you know, some help in terms of just stability. Because a wise man once said this to me, and I'm being careful here, that when something happens in politics that completely makes no sense at all, somebody's getting paid off. And I'm not saying that applies here, but it's either that or something so overwhelmed his judgment as Ezra's pointed Out there's been a long standing seat here. And first of all, if there is something personal going on, you know, mentally with him, I hope he gets help. But there still is no excusing what he did. And constituents need to come down hard on this. And as I said, just said a minute ago, we need to see a really robust recall. Whether it works or not, it sends a message. Fighting a recall campaign is expensive, it's time consuming, it's emotionally draining and he should have to pay the price on every one of those. On every one of those fronts.
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Well, and it makes people so cynical because what has tangibly gotten better that you would reward the liberals with your support? I mean these are issues that Matt General campaigned on in the last election 90 seconds ago. So you know, has crime improved? Property rights improved, Firearms rights improved? Have. Have we dealt with illegal and out of control immigration or the cost of living? Have we repaired the trade issues with the Americans? No, no, no, no and no. So why are you rewarding the liberals with your support? It causes people to speculate on the things that Stockwell just mentioned. David.
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Yeah. Look, parties are an organizing structure for interest to be aggregated around real interests. And people vote conservative because they believe that freer markets and lower taxes and more autonomy will create more prosperity for them and their kids. And they mean it. And when you take away, when you disenfranchise the vote because somebody can do a backroom trade, you create a secondary market in being able to buy off, buy off representatives once they've been elected. And that's a really dangerous precedent for the country. I actually think that if there's one or two more of these, there's going to be a discussion around whether or not you have to have, you know, a waiting period. You have to sit as an independent. I actually think there's a fundamental democratic issue at stake here for the country that has to be addressed when the shoes on the other foot, and it will be soon, you know, maybe not sex election after if the conservatives did the same thing going the other way around and you had, you created this market for backroom trade that allowed it allowed you to just subvert the will of the people that had voted and just buy off those maritimers we're always hoping would go conservative. Right. And you create a super majority and you, you push through the entire conservative agenda based on our ability to buy off people that have voted for liberals, but we were able to buy their reps off once they had actually gotten into the house, you would have a huge scandal on your hands. And, and so I think there's going to have to be, this is going to have to be addressed beyond just our frustration because it's conservative crossing the floor. It's actually a fundamental problem and flaw. If this led to the community federalism.
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Well, and you know, you could understand it. I wouldn't like it. But you might understand it if there were some sort of touchstone issue that just exploded that would either drive someone to the liberals if the conservatives had did it, or drive a liberal to the conservatives going the other direction. But that hasn't happened. So again, it causes that speculation.
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Yeah.
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And look, we, we specifically make up for the potential for there to be issues of conscience by having votes of conscience.
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Sure.
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Right there, there are issues where somebody says, I know these are my constituents, but I have a conscience and on a particular issue I'm not going to just try and vote the popular will of my constituents or my party. I'm going to vote conscience. So we, we actually structure votes around solving for that specifically so that you don't create a second secondary market in buying off reps once they've already been elected. It's, it's a bad precedent. I think it's bad for him as a person and for his, you know, whatever career he wants in the future as well.
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I remember fondly that great debate he had with Keith Wilson at our sold out Red Deer event. That was a great event and it was foreshadowing the intense energy across the province to sign up for this petition. I want to talk just a little bit more because about that and I know that there are other, I mean, there are other things on our sort of news list here, but I want to make maximum advantage David's availability. David, I understand that tomorrow the premier is going to announce some details about the referendum process. And of course it's not just the independence question. I understand. For example, there's going to be an immigration question too. In fact, I see that the premier's chief of staff is tweeting to sort of foreshadow that. Do you know anything about some of these other referendums? And if, if so or if not, what do you think about this immigration question?
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F
Oh, really? Like the way that the premier is leading on these issues.
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B
Go ahead.
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I'm sorry, I thought you were frozen for a second. David, could you stand again?
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Yeah, I said I don't have any specific information about the questions, but what I do like is that the premier is getting in front of these issues and representing Albertans as she sees their interest and talking about them very openly. She's been unafraid to address what is actually a very tricky high wire act for a premier, dealing with an issue like separatism and dealing with something like immigration.
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Yeah, I think you're right. And it marks a sea change because until just really over a year ago, it was unanimous amongst the ruling class that you don't say anything critical of immigration. One of the most cringeworthy moments of the 2021 election campaign was when I think. I think I got my date right, was when Aaron o' Toole was asked if he has any difference of opinion with Justin Trudeau on immigration. And basically he said no. But it was sort of a moving whatever Trudeau said, o' Toole had the same answer. So it wasn't even that he had a belief in Trudeau's policy. It's that he was absolutely terrified of allowing Trudeau to criticize him on the subject. It's not that Aaron o' Toole was saying, this is the number I support. He was saying, whatever the other guy says, me too. Please just don't ask me questions about it. And by the way, in the previous election, Andrew Scheer, I remember the founder of the co founder of Rebel News, 15% share with my friend Hamish Marshall, has since bought him out. But at the very early days of Rebel News, we had a partner, Hamish Marshall, great guy. And he became the campaign manager for Andrew Scheer. So Andrew Scheer came by the office. It was super friendly. Hamish was there, we were all friends. And then I made the mistake of asking Andrew Scheer about immigration and he dodged it. But he was there in person, so he couldn't hang up. And I asked him four more times, and that was the last Andrew Scheer ever spoke to Rebel News. And I wasn't mean. I just said, do you have anything to say about the quantity of immigration? And do you have anything to say about the nature of that quantity? Oh, my God, those were like the third rail. It was like I was asking him to touch an electric wire or something. David, why has it suddenly become, I don't know, possible to talk about immigration, whereas a year ago that wasn't true?
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I think because Canadians have started to realize that it's okay to let people in the political class understand that you're not racist and you're not actually even against immigration, you're against open fraud.
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B
Yeah.
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I think the degree and the scale of the fraud in our immigration policies and our asylum policies, you know, when you see Six guys that have been extorting people and destroying the Sikh community, targeting these young Sikh boys to join criminal gangs, violating the pact of the, you know, the Canadian immigration social pact, the civil pact. And when they're caught and they're discovered to have been liars that should have had no place in this country. And the people that are the victims of those crimes are all Sikh people in the Sikh community. And these clowns get caught, arrested, arraigned, and what happens? They say, we want to claim asylum and they completely defraud the system again. And as more and more people see this, they start to realize, you know, this has nothing to do with whether you support immigration or not. This has to do with whether you support people that are openly defying what Canada stands for, all of our values, the security of the country. And the number one communities that are being destroyed by this open, violent, easily manipulated cartel and criminal syndicate dominated defrauding of the system are the minority communities that are new first generation immigrants and their kids. Right? So I think what's happened is reality is starting to mug this question in a way that's allowing people not only to feel like they can raise it, but to actually go further than that and say, I've absolutely had it with this, right? People coming in openly defrauding a healthcare system, an education system that's been letting me and my family down for the last few years because there's too many kids that can't speak English. You know, you've got classroom sizes that are blowing up, you've got hospital wait times that are extraordinary. And you've got people now that, you know, the, the recent one where they've got this guy that did the most sadistic things, they've caught him and they found out that the guy is now using Canadian benefits in healthcare in spite of the fact that he's a known terrorist. I mean, you can't. These things used to be the subject of like Babylon be irony or sarcasm, right? And it's actually Canada's current system is so broken that you can't even make up the headlines. It's not even dark comedy anymore, right? And so I think, Ezra, it's reached a point where, as with so many of these things, something had to break and now it's broken. So you've got billions of dollars the country doesn't have, that actual citizens and their kids have to pay back now for generations to fund an open defrauding of the system by people that are intentionally defrauding it, using criminal and terrorist syndicates to do so this has been known for years by people in the know. The fact that it, it hasn't been dealt with seriously by the government is, is a break in the trust people have with the government. People in CSIS have been warning about this. People that watch these things from a security perspective, been warning about it. It's people on the street that are sort of realizing just how bad it's gotten as they try and get basic public services and seeing they can't get them anymore. I think it's, it's now just kind of an open conversation, you know, and I'm proud of the premier that she's putting it on the table and raising it. Something that's normally the domain of the federal government. She's saying we've had it here in Alberta, we've got to address it. It's moves like that by her, by the way, that infuriate the, the, you know, the so called elites out east that are, actually have the best chance of maintaining Alberta as an autonomous, you know, province within a unified Canada. Without her making moves like that, this, this would start to break because people just had it with the complete mismanagement of the country by this stay at home bureaucracy that's now. Did you see this now? 80% more expensive a decade ago. Did you, I posted something on this. Do you know, do you know how long, do you know the performance of the cra, which is one of the very few departments that the Auditor General can audit against a set of measured metrics? They are unable to answer a phone call within 15 minutes 83% of the time. Average time that you spend on the phone waiting for somebody in the CRA to answer that call is 31 minutes. Then when they do answer, this is the kicker. So if you get lucky, if you're in the 17% of Canadians that can actually get your call answered and they answer your question, their error rate is 83%. In other words, 83% of the time they get the answer they're supposed to give you wrong. Now let's step back for a second. It's 80% more expensive to have people not answer the phone 80% of the time. And when they do answer it, they get it wrong 80% of the time. I mean, this is a postcard. This is a poster for AI taking over the federal government firing 40 to 50% of these people that are totally incapable. And then the kicker is, you see that they are absolutely outraged at the idea they have to show up in person at work four days a week. Again, you can't, you can't make this stuff up. This used to be the stuff of.
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A
Comedy in a way. They're lucky that they don't get their phone calls. If you're waiting and you hang up in frustration, you just saved yourself a lot of money, sir.
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F
Yeah, that's exactly right. You don't want to win this lottery.
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Take your chances.
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F
Obese, sclerotic bureaucracy actually deign to pick up the phone on one of the days they're at work. You know, that's, that's when the nightmare starts. So, so yeah, I think, I think Canadians are feeling more and more confident that they can address these issues from a point of principle. You know, Ezra, you, you and I grew up in neighborhoods in Alberta. I played a lot of soccer, ended up playing soccer at the university. Almost most. The majority of the guys I played with, we were all first generation Canadians. Our dads had immigrated from. Our dad's parents had immigrated from somewhere else. Right. Everybody felt lucky to be there. Everybody. You know, my dad sponsored a Bangladeshi doctor and his family through the church.
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A
Right.
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F
And, and when you came in, you worked hard on these things. Your parents expect you to get great grade stuff. There was none of this defrauding the system. There was none of this magnet of benefits being offered to people. People came with a lot of risk and they had to make it. They relied on each other. They relied on their, their ethnic communities, their families etc to put it together and make it. Nobody was against immigration. Everybody was an immigrant. You know, and that in, in the communities I grew up in, people, people were working really hard as immigrants. What people are offended by, especially people that are immigrants, is, is when people defraud a system and they abuse it and, and they divine. That's a universal proposition.
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Hey, welcome back. Your letters to me. These are taken from our premium comments on our show. Colin Dialer says about Brett Wilson. Brett's a nice enough guy and all, but come on. Canadian provinces can't even negotiate barrier free trade and regulations. Collaboration is a pipe dream. You know, there's something to that letter. I mean, for all the talk about Team Canada and break down internal barriers, the biggest internal barrier I can think of is British Columbia blocking any oil pipelines from Alberta. Bruce Atchison said it won't work. Alberta and Saskatchewan do have a lot in common. But B.C. has Victoria blocking all good ideas. Manitoba is too leftist. Moreover, Central Canada and the Maritimes are stuck in 1867. We're just colonies out west. No, we must go. We'll never get a fair deal in that ball and chain system the east has set up. You know, someone said something the other day that I literally had never thought of in my 54 years and it was maybe Canada's too big. I'd never heard that said until about a week ago. And I've been thinking about it because part of the Canadian identities were so big. The vast north, which is 99.999% empty. There's. There's so few people living in our cold north, but maybe east and west, it's too big. Also, maybe people in Calgary have very little to do with people in Toronto and people in Vancouver have very little to do with people in Halifax. And it doesn't mean that we're hostile. It just means maybe it doesn't make sense to have them ruled by the same ruler, especially someone so authoritarian in Ottawa. Next letter, Silver feet said, I am not anti evil but pro good. Please, friend, you are delusional. If you can think, you can sit on the fence. It is obvious you are financially beholden to the current system. This is a letter in response to Brett. The same system that has destroyed the lives of so many people. So what should be the decision of Albertans? Vote for prosperity or side with the financial interests of some rich guy who doesn't care less about the common man? Save Alberta, save Saskatchewan, and by some miracle save BC See, I can see Alberta and Saskatchewan being a great country that would have. I don't know about. I'd have to do the math. About 7 million people. It would have an enormous economy from natural resources bordering with the United States, whose Secretary of the Treasury Scott Bessant has already said, oh, we'll take all the Alberta oil. Don't you worry about oil pipelines being blocked? So. And I would think that frankly, half of B.C. the B.C. interior would join too. That's a real country, by the way. Anyhow, I appreciate your letters. I think this is going to be the number one topic in 2026 as that referendum looms. I understand that tomorrow Alberta Premier Danielle Smith is going to have something to say about the subject that will certainly get the noggin jogging. Well, that's our show for today. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home. Good night and keep fighting for freedom. Shame on you, you censorious bug.