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Episode Overview

Title: EZRA LEVANT | Steelworkers axed as leftists reject steel pipelines — Make it make sense!
Date: December 3, 2025
Host: Ezra Levant, Rebel News

Ezra Levant discusses the recent mass layoffs at Algoma Steel and the paradoxical approach of left-leaning Canadian politicians who refuse to approve steel-intensive oil pipelines while bemoaning job losses in the steel sector. He critiques government handouts, "green" economic best practices, Liberal policy contradictions, and ties in the broader context of Canada's resource economy, national politics, and North American geopolitics. The episode also features on-the-ground interviews from the Alberta United Conservative Party (UCP) convention, with a focus on Alberta’s energy policy, education, and municipal affairs.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Algoma Steel Layoffs & Failed Government Bailouts

• Main theme: Algoma laid off 1,000 workers after receiving a combined $500 million government bailout just two months prior (00:00-03:00).

  • $400M from Ottawa (federal government), $100M from Ontario (provincial).
  • Total workforce was 2,500; layoffs represent approximately 40%.
  • Ezra’s critique: “That works out to $500,000 per job. And it wasn’t enough to save it.” (02:15)

• Levant accuses the government and Mark Carney (now a senior leader/Liberal cabinet minister) of not understanding how real business is done.

  • Focus on central planning, handouts, and “baffle-gab” instead of sustainable policy.
  • “Now, I know it’s nuts since Carney is an economist… but I’m not sure he actually knows how businesses work, how money is made.” (03:40)

2. Mark Carney & The Liberal Attitude to Industry

• Ezra plays several clips/interviews highlighting Mark Carney’s dismissive attitude toward traditional, heavy industry.

  • Quote: “How much steel are you using these days, Todd? I mean, not as much.” (Carney, 04:32)
  • Carney is “bored” by pipelines and uninterested in building block industries:
    • “He uses made up words like advantaging, but essentially he’s bored by oil and steel and things like that.” (06:07)

• Focus shifts to Carney’s preference for futuristic, data-centered, and green ventures over tangible infrastructure:

  • Carney: “What some in the room will unlock on the data center side… will have a much bigger impact on productivity in this country… It’s an easy conversation to have about a pipeline because it’s one thing we can see, but the reality is that there’s much, much more to the Canadian economy and there’s much, much more to the future.” (05:15)

• Government pressure on Algoma and other manufacturers to use “green” methods (electric arc/battery-powered steel vs. coal) is scrutinized and dismissed as impractical by Ezra.

3. Contradictory Policy on Pipelines & Jobs

• Core argument: Pipelines use Canadian steel; blocking pipelines is bad for steel jobs.

• Ezra notes that the Northern Gateway, Keystone XL, and Energy East pipelines — all blocked/cancelled — would have entailed billions spent on steel, supporting Canadian industry and private sector jobs.

  • “There are two ways you could try and save a Canadian steel company. One is through endless loans and grants… The other is to actually, you know, build things with steel.” (13:20)

• “Mark Carney has a choice. Really? Does he love steel more than he hates pipelines? And the answer, of course, is no, he doesn’t.” (13:52)

  • Carney and the government prefer centrally planned, “command economy” schemes over market-driven infrastructure.

4. Policy Baffle and First Nations Veto Power

• Discussion of the recent government MOU (Memorandum of Understanding) for a future pipeline:

  • Construction could be delayed till 2040 and remains subject to numerous vague preconditions.

• “Anything that goes to the major projects office to be referred has to have the consent of the jurisdictions in question, has to have the consent of First Nations. And right now, you know, these are all we have, an MOU that is an outline, a roadmap to have a further conversation.” (Government spokesperson, 17:02)

  • Ezra questions the logic and feasibility of such arrangements and the uncertainty it injects into major projects.

5. Geopolitical Context — Venezuela, Oil, and U.S. Foreign Policy

• Ezra pivots to the global oil market, focusing on potential regime change in Venezuela and its implications for North American energy flows.

  • “Venezuela is the biggest [oil reserve holder]. It’s bigger than Saudi Arabia… they barely produce a million barrels a day compared to 10 million for America, Russia, Saudi. That’s what socialism and corruption will do to you.” (24:45)

• Speculates that post-Maduro, U.S. oil interests will re-enter Venezuela, rapidly increasing oil production and exports.

  • “Which do you think is going to happen sooner? That new Venezuelan oil coming up to the United States by tanker ship… or a Canadian oil pipeline to the coast… by 2040?” (26:47)

6. Alberta UCP Convention: Education, Immigration, Homelessness, Energy Policy

Education & Teachers’ Union

Interview with Demitri Nikolaides, Alberta Minister of Education (27:38–31:22)

• ATA (Alberta Teachers’ Association) accused of politicization beyond core education concerns.
• Reiterate government focus on traditional basics — literacy, numeracy, balanced with student expression.
• Criticizes federal government for “irresponsible” immigration policies straining provincial services, especially school class sizes.
  • “There’s no question the federal government has been completely irresponsible with immigration policies. Not just my opinion… that’s putting a significant amount of strain on our education system.” (29:47)

Homelessness & Housing

UCP representative responds (31:22–33:54)

• Alberta government rejects large encampments; instead provides “navigation centers” for those experiencing homelessness.
• Asserts homelessness is primarily a symptom of addiction and mental health issues, not just economic hardship.

Municipal Affairs

Dan Williams, Minister for Municipal Affairs (39:00–43:06)

• Emphasizes that councils should “stick to their knitting” — basic services, not climate politics or “woke” policies.

  • “If you want to declare climate emergency… you should quit your job, go run to be MP or MLA… Until then, core services like garbage pickup, fixing water mains…” (39:13)

• Push to innovate in municipal services without simply raising taxes, and the province will “step in” if municipalities stray from core responsibilities.

7. Alberta Premier Danielle Smith’s Perspective on the Pipeline MOU and Economic Path Forward

Danielle Smith, Premier of Alberta, speaks (34:00–38:36)

• Smith hails the MOU as hugely beneficial for Alberta’s economic certainty, electricity cost savings, and as a strong signal to the world to invest.

  • Quote: “It’s the biggest thing that happened in Alberta in at least 30 years. It’s a very good thing for Albertans. It’s going to save them a ton of money. It’s going to give a great signal to the international community…” (34:00)

• Confirms the agreement is not just about pipelines but also nuclear energy opportunities and the reversal or change of several “bad laws” such as the tanker ban.

• Asserts pipelines (specifically to the northwest BC coast and Asian markets) are essential for long-term prosperity, job creation, and poverty reduction in BC and Alberta, especially for Indigenous communities.

  • “This should bring the people in northern B.C. out of poverty… I only hope that for the rest of the people across this route and on the coast of B.C.” (36:24)

• Returns are “staggering” — estimates $5 billion a year for both Alberta and Canada.

• If Ottawa (or Mark Carney as PM) renegs, Smith expects broad interprovincial cooperation for pipelines and energy projects.

8. Listener Feedback and Final Thoughts

• Ezra reads and responds to several listener letters, reflecting skepticism about Ottawa’s follow-through and support for Alberta’s resource sector.
  • “Until we actually see some progress on this file, we will never believe a thing coming out of Ottawa.” (Listener letter, ~44:30)
  • Observes a double standard: steel workers get bailouts and sympathy, oil and gas workers get scapegoated and asked to pay for expensive carbon capture initiatives.
    • “The only way to make steel is with coal… this environmentalist attempt to have electric arc coal manufacturing… it doesn’t work… it’s the steel industry’s analogy to carbon capture.” (44:45)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “A thousand unionized steel workers lose their jobs, but leftist politicians refuse to build an oil pipeline made of steel. Make it make sense.” — Ezra Levant (00:32)

• “It wasn’t some centrally planned scheme. It was the innovation of the automobile and the free market…” — Ezra on the success of Detroit in 1925 (03:02)

• “He uses made up words like advantaging, but essentially he’s bored by oil and steel and things like that.” — Ezra on Mark Carney (06:07)

• “What strong tools are you talking about? Are you talking about the half billion you just gave two months ago didn’t work? Are you going to use that tool again?” — Ezra on Patty Hajdu’s comments (09:04)

• “Mark Carney has a choice. Does he love steel more than he hates pipelines? And the answer, of course, is no, he doesn’t.” — Ezra (13:52)

• “Anything… for major projects… has to have the consent of the jurisdictions in question, has to have the consent of First Nations… these are all we have, an MOU that is an outline, a roadmap to have a further conversation.” — Liberal MP/Government Spokesperson (17:02)

• “If you personally had billions of dollars to invest in oil… would you choose the 10 to 15 year, heavily politicized plan that Mark Carney has for you? Oh, if he’s not too bored by it already.” — Ezra (26:47)

• “That’s what socialism and corruption will do to you.” — Ezra, about Venezuela’s oil sector collapse (24:45)

• “We already gave them a half a billion dollars to the corporation to save the jobs. And the statement she gives doesn’t even mention that.” — Ezra on Patty Hajdu (08:30)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:00–03:00 – Algoma layoffs breakdown and government response
• 04:20–06:07 – Mark Carney audio clips showcase “boredom” with heavy industry
• 09:04–11:15 – Government’s empty rhetoric, Trump comparison
• 13:20–15:19 – Pipelines as the missing link for steel industry jobs
• 16:21–17:44 – First Nations/ Environmental consent hurdles for pipelines
• 24:45–26:47 – Venezuela’s oil potential, U.S. military posture, and comparison to Canadian pipeline prospects
• 27:38–31:22 – Alberta Education Minister on union politicization, immigration, teacher pay
• 31:22–33:54 – Alberta government approach to homelessness and housing
• 34:00–38:36 – Premier Danielle Smith’s breakdown of Alberta-Ottawa agreement, effect on energy
• 39:00–43:06 – Dan Williams, Alberta’s Minister for Municipal Affairs, on municipal priorities, immigration, “woke” politics
• 44:30–end – Listener mail and wrap-up: “Steel gets bailouts, oil and gas gets blamed.”

Tone and Style

The episode maintains Ezra Levant’s signature blend of polemic, skepticism of central authority, and strong advocacy for resource sector jobs. His language is direct, colloquial, and often sarcastic, with repeated use of rhetorical questions, allusions to Canadian/US political history, and realpolitik.

Summary Takeaway

Ezra Levant frames the Algoma Steel layoffs and broader government indifference to pipelines as emblematic of a fundamentally flawed, anti-industry elite consensus in Ottawa, led by Mark Carney. The refusal to back infrastructure that sustains Canadian heavy industry (such as pipelines) is, in his view, both economically and morally incoherent. The episode reinforces perennial themes of Alberta alienation, government overreach, and the primacy of practical, market-driven decision-making over ideological or “green” experiments. The UCP convention interviews reinforce the provincial government’s contrasting approach: defense of practical economic development, attacks on left-wing symbolism, and direct answers to material issues facing Alberta.

This summary provides an in-depth, structured companion to the podcast for those seeking a clear understanding of its content, positions, and policy debates.