Judy Trinh (4:33)

For three and a half years, they.

Ezra Levant (4:34)

Work for Doug Ford. They don't work for Mark Carney or Justin Trudeau.

Judy Trinh (4:37)

They'll let Ford off the hook anyways.

Ezra Levant (4:40)

Today in the sentencing neither of the two accused were given a custodial sentence. In plain English.

Drea Humphrey (4:50)

Well, for my point's comment, he respects the judges.

Judy Trinh (4:57)

Not appealable in terms of.

Drea Humphrey (4:58)

The sentence are conditional sentences. He gets house. Yes, yes, he. And in terms of his reaction in court, does he feel any regret in terms of what has happened in terms of his role in the state of public. I'll let him speak to that when he's due and ready to do that.

Judy Trinh (5:15)

Are you surprised by the verdict sentence today, Ms. Nugus?

Drea Humphrey (5:17)

No, I'm not. It was expected to be in the realm of sentences. The sentences that were provided to other members or leaders convoy.

Judy Trinh (5:30)

So it was expected.

Drea Humphrey (5:48)

Can you tell me what kind of message this may send to a other individuals who may want to protest. Given if it's another protest against over government overreach. We see something going on in the ostrich farm right now.

Ezra Levant (6:00)

What.

Drea Humphrey (6:00)

What message does the court send in terms of other mass protests? I think the message from the judge was really clear that the my client and Ms. Leach had the best intention when they came to Ottawa. It was a lawful protest. She found that it turned into unlawful because of the blockage of the streets.

Judy Trinh (6:19)

And that's what the message is like protest.

Drea Humphrey (6:22)

But don't block street.

Ezra Levant (6:23)

Don't.

Drea Humphrey (6:24)

Don't interfere with other people's enjoyment of their property is the clear message. I think the judge wanted to make sure in her decision today and even in their decision on conviction that protest is allowed. That's not the issue, it's the manner of the protest.

Ezra Levant (6:40)

Do you think there's a double standard with how Hamas protesters are really unmolested by police? None of them are being jailed. There's no three year prosecutions like this for mischief, whereas trucker protesters have been jailed and the enormous amount of resources thrown at them.

Drea Humphrey (6:56)

It's hard for me to comment on.

Judy Trinh (6:58)

Another protest that I don't know the.

Drea Humphrey (6:59)

Facts of each of the protests. So it's.

Judy Trinh (7:03)

I can't comment on that.

Drea Humphrey (7:04)

Unfortunately. I can tell you that this trial.

Judy Trinh (7:07)

Took very long to succeed complete. But I can't comment on the other ones.

Ezra Levant (7:26)

Harbor having a bit of a scrum. One of the questions I think it was CTV who asked it was is there any lesson here for the ostrich farm? Isn't that interesting? That's what's on their mind.

Drea Humphrey (7:39)

Man Stand.

Ezra Levant (7:39)

I'm just keeping my eye pes here. I didn't realize that scrum was happening but I tried to jump in front of it. I'm going to keep my eyes peeled for when Lawrence Greenspawn comes out. A little bit of hollering between you're.

Judy Trinh (7:56)

Not entitled to any citizen journalist. No, you're not. You're not entitled.

Ezra Levant (7:58)

And the regime journalist.

Judy Trinh (8:00)

No, you're not. You don't get.

Ezra Levant (8:01)

Let me get back to the story at hand. The headline news, the big news right now is that Chris Barber and Tamara Leach have been sentenced for their role at trucker thons. Why neither of them has been sent to jail, but both of them have received enormously long house arrest in both cases. 18 months of house arrest or 18 months conditional sentence, excuse me, of which 12 months is house arrest reduced somewhat in the case of Tamara Lee because she's already spammed the legal equivalent of 74 days in jail. So 15 and a half months of house arrest, during which time they are not allowed to leave other than for medical emergencies, five hours a week for shopping, legal medical and dental appointments and other things that they negotiate with their supervisors. In the case of Chris Barber, he's a trucker, a long distance trucker, so obviously his employment would count as an exception to that. But I have not heard of such a strict house arrest. I'm trying to think of a political protest that yielded such a brutal sentence. And you could compare it to Omar Khadr, the Al Qaeda terrorist who didn't have any of these conditions. In fact, he was given ten and a half million dollars of taxpayer money. He was given the red carpet.

Judy Trinh (9:28)

He had a, you know, he was.

Ezra Levant (9:30)

The golden boy of Justin Trudeau. I asked Ms. Magus, that's the lawyer for Chris Barber, if there's an evident double standard these truckers are being treated and how the Hamas protesters are being treated. I don't know of any Hamas protesters who've been jailed for months. I don't know any of them who have been prosecuted. With the obsession that Doug Ford is prosecuted for Mayor Leach or the Alberta government has prosecuted the Coots protesters. Her answer was fair enough, but I think it was a tiny bit of a cock up. Familiar with those other protests. I don't know the facts. I suppose that's a proper lawyer's answer, but it's pretty easy to say there's a two tier standard for protests in Canada. All right, I'm going to extend. I'm sort of in the thick of it. I hope you don't mind. I tried to film the scrum. It's a little bit hard when I'm using a selfie stick.

Judy Trinh (10:21)

As you can see, there's a ton of folks here watch this video and there's so many cameras similar from more official looking sources.

Ezra Levant (10:33)

Many of them are citizen journalists like myself. I'm going to keep my camera rolling because I do expect Lawrence Greenspan, the lawyer for Chimera Leeds, to come out and I'll try and put some questions to him. He's very knowledgeable, he's a very senior lawyer and I know that even the regime deferred to him because he's very progressorial, he teaches what he asked questions and I'm pleased to say that we.

Judy Trinh (11:01)

Have crowdfunded his legal fees.

Ezra Levant (11:03)

Him and he has had two junior lawyers. He's been working on this case for two years and I know from my previous conversations with him and Tamara Leach, that Tamari Leach intends to appeal her convictions. So I don't know if they're going to appeal the sentence as well. When you appeal the conviction and if you were successful, then there would be.

Judy Trinh (11:26)

No need for any hints at all. Of course, if you found not guilty. Anyways, I'm just going to turn this.

Ezra Levant (11:31)

Camera around a little bit so you can see there is a pro protest. And you can see inside there are a lot of cops, which is a bit, A bit, A bit rich. I think the Ottawa Police Service has some psychological trauma from the truckers. If they're literally sending 16 cops, and those are just the ones that I counted, I, I think they haven't got over it. I think the Ottawa police were disgraced. According to the Federal Court of Canada.

Judy Trinh (12:02)

The invocation of the Emergencies act and the conduct of police in its aftermath.

Ezra Levant (12:07)

Including the arbitrary search, seizure and shutting down of anyone who was there, including the spouses.

Judy Trinh (12:15)

A lot of people, of course, share.

Ezra Levant (12:17)

A bank account with their spouse. And imagine you're a mom at a grocery store and suddenly none of your credit cards work because your husband was at a protest and some liberal politician said, hey, shut down this guy's bank account. He's a trucker. Absolutely abusive. The Federal Court of Canada itself found that to be illegal and unconstitutional. I think the Ottawa Police Service has some explaining to do, but they don't really ever explain now, do they?

Judy Trinh (12:43)

So anyways, I'm out here with this huge crowd.

Ezra Levant (12:47)

I would say it's fair to say.

Judy Trinh (12:48)

That in addition to the regiment, independent.

Ezra Levant (12:52)

Media got a lot of people who are just plain old Samara Leech and Chris Barber supporters. I think that if you were to ask me, where are Tamar Leach and Chris Barber right now? I think they're actually doing paperwork, looking with what they call the supervisor. I think that may be a newfangled way of saying parole or probation officer. So they're doing the paperwork and one of the things the judge said is that responsibility for enforcing this house arrest will be shifted to their respective homes. Oh, I see Lawrence Green is on his way out. He's the lawyer for Tamara Leech. Then we'll do our best to lay some guys. Come on, back it up.

Judy Trinh (13:43)

The door. Lawrence Greenspan here. Mr. Greenspan, how many people do you think the Freedom Convoy positively impacted? Well, in our submissions, I said thousands, if not tens of thousands. But we received letters of support from hundreds of people. We've received messages. Tamara has received messages. So this was one of those rare cases is where I was able to say to the judge, there was some very positive things that happened as a result of this, what was found to be an offense. And the positive is that there are a lot of people who were inspired by Tamara's example. A lot of people who were lifted up and given oath by what she did. Are you satisfied with the verdict or the sent scene today, sir? Yes. The main objective was to make sure she, she didn't spend one more day in jail and that was achieved. So yes, in, in that sense we are still very seriously considering an, a meal of the conviction.

Ezra Levant (14:49)

A little bit of an.

Judy Trinh (14:50)

As far as the safety go, we're, we're pleased that she is not going to be spending any more time.

Ezra Levant (14:56)

Do you think there's been a double standard with how the truckers have been treated with jailing, prosecution, enormous resources compared to the pro Hamas protests that block streets in Ottawa, Toronto, Montreal and elsewhere. Is there a double standard on the streets?

Judy Trinh (15:13)

I think that this case on its own demonstrates the conflict between freedom of expression and peaceful assembly. And as contrasted with some of the other protests that you're referring to, the pro Palestinian, Palestinian protest, there's, there's definitely a different way that those are being treated as opposed to the way that this peaceful assembly and freedom of expression was treated in this book.

Drea Humphrey (15:41)

Lawrence, was a balance struck by the judge in this case in terms of freedom of expression, in terms of the rightful protest?

Judy Trinh (15:47)

No, no, there was none. And in Canada, constitutionally protected freedom of speech which encourages peaceful assembly must prevail over the rights of property owners, the enjoyment of property. That's, that's not a, it's not an equal balance. And that's the, the primary basis that we're considering for an appeal of conviction. What do you think the post effects will be? I mean even if you might be happy with the results or as of now, what do you think this takes? The feeling of free speech going forward, the process, of course, the pre trial custody. I'm concerned that going forward individuals who advocate peaceful assembly, and that's all that Tamara did was talk about peaceful assembly and encourage people to come to Ottawa to assemble peacefully and lawfully. That's all she did. And if that becomes, and as at this point it remains criminal, it's been found to be the offense, sense of mischief. If that's allowed to stand, then I'm very concerned about the future of freedom expression in this country.

Drea Humphrey (16:54)

Law is more appealing.

Judy Trinh (16:58)

We're seriously considering an appeal of the conviction for mischief. What about the impact on the piece of riders the jet girls know Significant impact there. There was, there is definitely and that was something that we were prepared to admit right at the beginning of the trial, that there was an impact on the people and businesses in the core of the city of Ottawa. Freedom of freedom of expression and peaceful assembly do not come without some price. And in a, in a contest between the two, peaceful assembly, freedom of expression that encourages that should win every time. Mr. Greenspan, nowhere in the constitution are the property rights or the enjoyment of property to be found. Freedom of expression, peaceful assembly are fundamental freedoms that are supposed to be protected by the charter. Mr. Greenspan, were you surprised by the sentence today, the duration given, given the rain absolute discharge to seven years? There was really, there's really nothing that could surprise me. What, what surprised me was that in 45 years of doing this work had never been this far apart apart from the Crown in terms of a sentencing position. The judge. The judge made comments about the Crown sentencing position and I'll, I'll leave you to that.

Drea Humphrey (18:11)

Has Ms. Leech ever expressed any type of remorse for her role in this, even though as he did not advocate for violence but it resulted in $65 million of police costs?

Judy Trinh (18:23)

You heard the portion of the, of the letter that she wrote and she recognized, as did Mr. Barma that there were many people in the downtown Gore and businesses that were affected by the Freedom Hardware. She doesn't deny that that the question, the question of that. Was there remorse for what she did? No. She pled not guilty. She's been found guilty of mischief and we're seriously looking at appealing that. You think Tamara actually said Judy, go down a little date.

Ezra Levant (18:54)

Stop.

Judy Trinh (18:55)

She may have, she may have seen why. She may have. One, one thing we know is that there were many lies, many people that were inspired by her example, but in how she did it, there were lies that were changed as a result of her standing up on behalf of many thousands of even tens of parents. So her life same? I don't know, but they well have been. May well have been. Absolutely.

Ezra Levant (19:48)

No, I know it doesn't.

Judy Trinh (20:17)

Do you have anything more to do with James Bowder's representation? No. Finish with him. I'm done. Done with James B. Will Judge Richard Many different examples of different trials, different judgments. Do you think that was curious prophesy? No, I think she, she canvassed all of the protest as many of the protest cases that we're familiar with. The antifa protests generally involved violence. Yes. And damage to property. So there would have been no point in her, you know, mentioning those and then saying. But they don't apply in this case. Did mention something I would been teaching a remorse. What did you say to her? What I said is no, she has.

Ezra Levant (21:10)

Not.

Judy Trinh (21:12)

Indicated to the court that she's remorseful for what she did.

Ezra Levant (21:20)

Well, I'm going to take a few steps away from this drum. Lawrence Grispont, certainly the man of the hour outside the courthouse here. What I learned from his remarks is something he said before is that in our Canadian Constitution, property rights do not trump freedom of speech. Now, we love both property rights and freedom of speech. But he does have a point. The Charter of Rights mentions freedom of speech, does not mention property rights. And in a protest situation like the trucker convoy, don't be surprised if some dainty people are put out by some noisy protests. The second thing which he said clearly is that the they have not yet officially decided whether to appeal the conviction, but they're seriously considering it. I had understood previously that they were going to appeal. If that's the case, we'll certainly crowdfund it through the Democracy Fund. It's a little bit crowded there and I managed to sort of get beyond hearing range but it shows you the tremendous interest in this case. So I'm going to try and film just a little bit more.

Judy Trinh (22:27)

You some question that things happen in case it happens in first year.

Drea Humphrey (22:40)

I'm not I saw that you made.

Judy Trinh (22:43)

That where they were directed to go to have been an issue and clarified that this meeting of trucks to reduce the footprint was something that was stopped not by the spirit of convoy organizers but rather stopped by the chief. We're not doing as badly as they are south of the border but of the the decision to convict Tamara Leach for mischief for what she did in the name of peace for assembly and freedom of expression is something that we're. We're looking at very challenging. Further on, Mr. Greenspan, there's been a lot of misunderstandings in misrejimation about this entire process. If there's one thing it communicates with the people of Canada that may have not been properly communicated, maybe lost in the weeds, what would that be? It's this message.

Ezra Levant (23:42)

It's that.

Judy Trinh (23:46)

Freedom of expression has to mean something when it is encouraging peaceful assembly. And those two things are both constitutionally protected fundamental freedoms. That has to mean something and it has to mean unfortunately for some that it prevails over the right to enjoyment of property which is nowhere to be found in our charter price and readings. Good job, Larry.

Ezra Levant (24:12)

Thanks. Thank you Mr.

Judy Trinh (24:13)

Beast.

Ezra Levant (24:14)

Hi everybody. Ezra Levant here. I'm in a Cab headed from the Ottawa courthouse to the airport. I just want to give you a quick update super quickly on the case of Tamara Leach and Chris Barber, the two co accused who were charged with mischief and other offenses in relation to the trucker convoy in early 2022. They were found guilty a few months ago and today, finally the judge, Justice Heather Perkins McVeigh, issued her sentencing. Now the Doug Ford's prosecutors, remember it's not Justin Trudeau or Mark Carney who's prosecuting, it's Doug Ford. Doug Ford's prosecutors wanted seven years in prison for Tamir Leach and eight for Chris Barber. The defense wanted what's called an absolute discharge, which is basically we all walk away. As if, you know, you know, we just walk away. I mean, of course, Tamara Leach has already spent 49 days in prison. The judge rejected both of those, but came much closer to the defense proposal. Neither Chris Barber nor Tamara Leach will spend another minute in jail. Unfortunately though, they'll have a conditional sentence for 18 months of which a year will be under house arrest. And it's brutal. They have to stay on their property unless they're working, going for legal medical or dental appointments, five hours a week, allowed for shopping and a handful of other exceptions. Now I suppose it's possible to get a job that permits them to travel widely, but this is a very suffocating house arrest. And I think by comparison to the terrorist Omar Khadr who didn't have any conditions when he came back to Canada. In fact, he got a ten and a half million dollar check from the government. And in fact, one of my questions that I put to Lawrence Greenspan in the scrum afterwards, actually I put it to both defense lawyers was can you comment on the double standard between how these peaceful trucker protesters are being abused by police and prosecutors versus how the pro Hamas protesters take great liberties every day. And I think both realized I was right, but they didn't want to dive into that pesky issue. Anyways, I'll have full reports later on rebelnews.com and if you want to help people part of the Solution, go to helptamera.com and you can chip in to help cover her legal fees for defense. I'm sorry it's so bouncy. I'm in the back of a car on the way to the airport. But I promise you my report in the main will be a lot more steady. Once again, that's helptamera.com we gotta help her fight back. Just in the cab on the way to the airport, it's a bit bumpy and a bit rainy. I had two more thoughts that I don't think I expressed in my little commentary outside the courthouse. The first is the judge repeatedly talked about how much the city of Ottawa spent, including on policing. I think she said $55 million. As if that were all attributable to two truckers, Tamara Leach and Chris Barber. And had they not been there, the city wouldn't have had to incur those expenses. Well, the first response to that is it's a city. Police is an expense. And when you're the capital city, expect to have protests from time to time in your capital. If you don't like it, go move somewhere else. Go move out into the country. Part of the price of a capital city is that is a place where people are allowed to come protest. But if that's the argument, oh, my God, that cost enforced and foisted on taxpayers. What was the cost of the lockdowns? What was the cost of the you're not allowed to work orders, you're not allowed to go to school orders in the billions, maybe in the hundreds of billions, maybe even in the trillions, I don't know. But the idea that this trucker convoy harmed the economy is a laugh. I was here, as you remember, for a few days at the beginning of the convoy, and it was the first time that many convenience stores and restaurants had any customers because the truckers were not afraid to go out for a bite. The second thing, and I don't know if I emphasized it, but I think it was Judy Trinh from ctv. She asked a question if the sentences here would deter other protesters, like at the ostrich farm in bc. And I thought, look at how the regime connects the dots. Look at how they're thinking already as if the ostrich protesters are evil people who need to be prosecuted, jailed. They haven't done a thing wrong. In fact, the only people who have done anything wrong who have engaged in any violence, to be quite literal, is the Canadian Food Inspection Agency, which has killed at least one, maybe two ostriches without legal right. But imagine being a regime journalist based in Ottawa, thinking, how can I blame the ostrich people? How can I whip up some mania against them? Can we perhaps get the idea of police brutality and prosecutorial vendettas against them, too? Just a very interesting visit. Anyways, I'm on my way to the airport. Got to get back to Toronto. News keeps happening all across this country. I'm delighted to have the privilege to report it to you. And in some cases, to be part of the solution. As you know, we have helped Tamara Leach in a number of ways. We published her excellent autobiography called hold the Line. And if you believe in crowdfunding or legal fees like I do, you can do that@help Tamara.com. all right, I'm going to sign off now. Talk to you later. To me, the most ominous part was when Judy Trinh of CTV asked in the scrum outside, is there a warning here? I forget her exact words. Something like, is there a warning here for the ostrich protest? And I thought, oh, my God, they're trying to develop a narrative that the people standing against the senseless slaughter of 400 ostriches are somehow criminals because we were at a criminal trial. It was so crazy. And you could see the maliciousness, the malice of the regime media in that moment. Now, speaking of ostriches, our friend Drea Humphrey, who I call the queen of the ostriches, she is still on location along with other rebels, including Sheila Gun Reid, who has just arrived on the scene in Edgewood, British Columbia. I tell you, I really enjoyed my brief visit there. I feel like I'm busy, so I have to keep going. But if I had more time, and let me say this, if you are in British Columbia or Alberta or even more adventurous from further afield and you want to get an interesting feeling of populist activist, grassroots Canadian freedom lovers, you should consider going to the farm. I was there fairly briefly, but even in my brief time there, I loved the feeling and it did indeed remind me of the festival feeling, the unity feeling that I encountered when I was at the trucker convoy in early 2022. So. So I know it sounds sort of unusual, but if you have time and if you are political and if you've got like a camper van or, I mean, some people are even sleeping in their cars. There are porta potties. There's a sort of a group kitchen. Like, there are some amenities. They're not much. It's pretty. I mean, you want to bring your own stuff, but it's something that I would encourage you to consider doing. I certainly enjoyed my time there and I think Drea is too. Anyways, Drea was out there at the ostrich farm and, and she did streeters asking people there what they thought of Tamara Leach. I should say Tamara was recently at the ostrich farm. In fact, she played a rock concert there. Here's Drea's report.

Drea Humphrey (31:34)

Drea Humphrey here with rebel news at Universal Ostrich Farms. I Want to speak with some of the supporters of the farm's plight against the Canadian Food Inspection Agency who remains on their property over there trying to call their healthy flock. I want to get the supporters opinions on the news that's come out on the Freedom Convoy leaders. Tamara Leach, Chris Barber receiving no jail time but very, very stiff conditions. It's actually breakfast time out here. There is an overlap to the Freedom Convoy, so I'm told when it comes to the food, the donations that are coming in and the hard working people that make sure everybody here is fed. Now the farmers don't know when donations are coming in so if you come to camp, they of course still ask you to be prepared to feed yourself. But so far it's been good. Can I ask you your opinion? Did you hear the good news? I did. It's good news. As far as jail time, what were your thoughts? Both Crisp Harbor, Tamara Leach not having to go to jail again.

Judy Trinh (32:41)

Again, I love it.

Ezra Levant (32:42)

I, it, it's a step in the right direction.

Drea Humphrey (32:46)

Yep, absolutely. I can't be more happy for them.

Jim Kerr (32:50)

And, and now we're on this one.

Drea Humphrey (32:53)

What do you make of the stiff sentences though? They're still getting a lot of conditions to Mary Leach on house arrest for complete year. Chris Barber has his conditional 18 month sentence. What do you make of that and how long this, this whole mischief trial has gone on?

Ezra Levant (33:10)

It's, it's, it's ridiculous. It's bad. I don't agree with it. Again, overreach with the government and I don't think they should have got any. Nothing.

Drea Humphrey (33:26)

Nothing at all. Do you think there's any overlaps between, between your stand here at the Freedom. See, I'm calling it the Freedom Farm, the Ostrich Farm and the Freedom Convoy. And if so, what are those? They're people standing up for what they believe in.

Ezra Levant (33:48)

Freedom of speech, asking for your rights.

Drea Humphrey (33:52)

Both of them are.

Ezra Levant (33:54)

And they're both being unjustly punished by for the government's own ideas of the way things should be. It's not right. It's not right. It's horrible that people both sides Freedom.

Drea Humphrey (34:13)

Convoy and these guys have to go.

Ezra Levant (34:17)

Through so much pain and every. Everything to bring to light how corrupt our government is on all sides.

Drea Humphrey (34:27)

A lot of government overreach. I mean we thought, thank you very much. We thought during COVID we had constitutional rights. One of those was the right to peacefully gather. And in many ways we saw that wasn't true during COVID but it was the ultimate, you know, test when we saw the Brutal force and immortal impact that the officers did. But the injustice of the overlap I'm seeing here between the ostrich farm and the convoy is the injustice of the tax dollars being sent to go after peaceful people. Again, if you haven't been following this, there is a standoff that's been going on for two weeks as the Canadian Food Inspection Agency sits and seizes the herd of nearly 400 ostriches that they want to call who are not sick based on an illness that swept through the farm 10 months ago. And they're here on the taxpayers dimes. They've got tons of cops here every day, shift chains, all of that. And that reminds me of this mischief child trial. In a way, this is the longest mischief trial in history. Now, of course, our founder, Ezra Levant, has been on the scene reporting every second of the way. I'm going to read his exact reporting of the conditions. First, the decision, which was made by Justice Heather Perkins. I'm going to move away from the generator. Heather Perkins McVeigh. The first ruling came in for Chris Barber and Ezra says this. There are terrorists out on bail with fewer conditions than what he received. Also, to Merrill Leach. What a gross, sloppy, whiny judge carrying out errands for the political establishment. That's what this whole thing has been. So he says Chris Barber must remain on his own property during the first 12 months, except for employment of traveling to and from any legal medical or dental appointments or religious services. Once a week for up to five hours, he can go shopping. Isn't that nice? For what? Honking horns and feeding the homeless? Or by written permission. Tamara Leach. I'm just going to swipe over here. Justice Perkins. Ma says same thing. Conditional sentence of 18 months, less time already spent in custody. So that makes it 15.55 months. And remember, they spent a lot of time already. It's ridiculous. So conditional sentence, as we said, first 12 months, house arrest. So we saw Barber had some exceptions for working. It looks like house arrest, except to and from court. Oh. Oh, so nice. That's so nice. Medical emergencies. Well, I should hope so. Appointments and religious services. Services. So can go for that five hours a week for shopping. Can go to her grandchild's birth. So she's a grandma. That's right. Who took a stand for Canada and has been paying the price ever since. Remaining 3.5 months of curfew will be 10pm and 5am except for medical emergencies. And of course, Chris Barber also has, you know, a curfew for his remaining sentence, too. They're getting some wood together here. Over here. Can I ask you about the news with Barber and Leech?

Ezra Levant (37:55)

Very happy that Chris is not being sentenced and most likely will be free.

Judy Trinh (37:59)

Let's hope that tomorrow will be next. Absolutely, yeah.

Drea Humphrey (38:02)

Oh, so he hasn't heard. Yes. Tamara Leach got no jail time.

Judy Trinh (38:06)

Really?

Drea Humphrey (38:06)

Yeah.

Judy Trinh (38:07)

Tamara got no jail time. Yeah, yeah, none.

Ezra Levant (38:11)

Both of them.

Judy Trinh (38:13)

Hopefully they're coming here. We need all the support.

Drea Humphrey (38:16)

Right.

Judy Trinh (38:17)

You're more than welcome, Kristen.

Ezra Levant (38:18)

Tomorrow.

Drea Humphrey (38:19)

Well, they can't. That's. That's the second part I want to ask you about. They can't come here.

Judy Trinh (38:25)

Get in there and help them. God damn it.

Drea Humphrey (38:27)

They actually can't come here because they have really stiff conditions. So. Tamara Leech is on house arrest for and it's entire year.

Judy Trinh (38:36)

Oh no.

Ezra Levant (38:41)

He's taking the day off.

Drea Humphrey (38:44)

And the jail they already.

Ezra Levant (38:47)

Well, it's just to me it's not an offense that he deserves a sentencing of that length.

Judy Trinh (38:52)

There's bigger criminals out there following for example stuff and he might be only getting four years.

Drea Humphrey (38:58)

Right.

Judy Trinh (38:58)

So he's done obviously worse things than tested in convoy. So we need to get our justice system sorted out. I mean go after real criminals. And even the funding here. I think it's 500000 a day for the cops and all that.

Ezra Levant (39:10)

I'm not sure about that. But that could be used for. For fentanyl. For real criminals.

Drea Humphrey (39:15)

Exactly. That's overlap. I see. Tell us a little bit about what you guys are doing here.

Judy Trinh (39:20)

Oh, this is from 247 Firewood in Flora. They just donated us a couple cords of wood for free.

Ezra Levant (39:25)

Oh wow. Oh yeah.

Judy Trinh (39:27)

Just came out, made our day. And we're just stacking everything. We're just working in the kitchen and getting camp sorted out and we watching the gate one more day and keep the fight up.

Drea Humphrey (39:37)

That's awesome.

Ezra Levant (39:38)

Never quit.

Drea Humphrey (39:38)

Yeah.

Judy Trinh (39:39)

I'll give you guys Ostrich patriots.

Drea Humphrey (39:41)

Yeah, she's Dick Van Djk from. That's pretty awesome. You see everybody working together to keep people people warm. And also you know what he said about Diddy? I haven't been following that case anymore. He claims that there he only might get four years. I should point out that with Chris Barber, the prosecutor was asking for eight years. Eight years for what exactly? Let me see if I can bug these guys who are working hard too. We've got Jim Kerr here. What do you make of the news so far? The big news of today. Why.

Jim Kerr (40:20)

I was really concerned that if you got jail time it would be really bad. So I'm really glad that didn't happen. But the fact that these people who didn't do anything got charged for what they did, and now they've got to spend 12 months under house arrest and six months probation, three months. That. That's ridiculous. Like, it's. I'm glad and I'm happy that. That they're not gonna spend the time in jail.

Ezra Levant (40:41)

Yeah.

Jim Kerr (40:42)

But, you know, it's. It's kind of. It's kind of hollow.

Drea Humphrey (40:46)

Yeah, I'm the same way. I thought, you know, maybe they're going to throw them in jail just to prove a point. But the point is already proven. What they're saying, you know, don't go against the state. What do you see here, Jim? I know you were involved with the trucker convoy in some ways supporting that. And now you're here with the ostrich farms. What do you see any overlap connection between these two? And if so, what is it?

Jim Kerr (41:07)

It's remarkably similar in so many ways, specifically the spirit that it evoked. Do you know when. When you were at the trucker convoy, the thing that you couldn't kind of tell on the news was how everybody was just so happy and generous and loving. It's kind of like a wood, stocky feel. Like a winter wood stocky feel.

Ezra Levant (41:24)

Yeah.

Jim Kerr (41:25)

It's not winter stock and wood, but yeah.

Ezra Levant (41:27)

Oh, there.

Drea Humphrey (41:29)

Stock and wood, dude.

Judy Trinh (41:31)

So I'll get to you, Colin.

Jim Kerr (41:33)

It's. It's got that really positive, peaceful vibe.

Ezra Levant (41:37)

There's.

Jim Kerr (41:37)

There's. As much as I saw people praying at the. At the trucker convoy, it's prominent here now. Wasn't always right and the vibe wasn't always what it is right now.

Ezra Levant (41:46)

That's.

Drea Humphrey (41:47)

That's a good point.

Jim Kerr (41:47)

You know, but now it's meditative. Like, it's like we're not. At first we were shocked and angry.

Ezra Levant (41:52)

And crying and all that.

Jim Kerr (41:53)

We still cry and stuff, but now it's more peaceful.

Drea Humphrey (41:56)

Yeah.

Jim Kerr (41:56)

And it's. It's just more. And everybody just wants to help. Our prime directive here is twofold. One is to save the ostriches, and the other is to support the family. That's it. And anytime the camp or anybody else gets off track, it's because they forget one of those two things.

Drea Humphrey (42:11)

Yeah.

Jim Kerr (42:12)

And as long as we remember it like people are remembering without having to be told, it's beautiful. No, it feels like the trucker convoy in so many ways. And I've said this right from many, many months ago, that this has the.

Drea Humphrey (42:23)

The.

Jim Kerr (42:24)

The potential to impact more than the Trucker convoy. Just because it crosses boundaries, it's.

Judy Trinh (42:29)

It's not left.

Jim Kerr (42:30)

It's not right. It's life, death kind of stuff.

Drea Humphrey (42:32)

Yeah. It's busting through the echo chamber because you can't vilify ostriches. You can't say they're mega. You can't say they're far. Right. We saw Elizabeth May, you know, take a dig at it, but even she's like, no, why aren't they testing these birds? And so you're right. I think it has bigger reach. And also, it still has the same elements of going after Bigfoot pharma and saying, hey, there's a to the story on that side. And it's incorporated trade issue into all of this, which, of course, has been the biggest thing this year in 2025, the trade tension. So it is quite remarkable how much is at stake with that flock where the farmers and supporters are fighting for.

Jim Kerr (43:12)

It's amazing.

Drea Humphrey (43:13)

Thanks, Jim.

Jim Kerr (43:14)

Thank you for everything you do, girl. You're amazing.

Drea Humphrey (43:17)

Now this is. I want to get you say your name. I don't want to say it wrong.

Judy Trinh (43:22)

Hi, everyone. I'm Chief White Buffalo. Manny Feathers. That's just my name I got in the ceremony years ago, so I guess.

Jim Kerr (43:31)

I earned that name.

Drea Humphrey (43:32)

Yeah. What do you make of the big news so far today about Tamara Leach and Chris Barber? Have you heard it?

Judy Trinh (43:39)

I heard it last night.

Drea Humphrey (43:40)

You heard it last night. It just happened today. You heard it. You heard it up here. Here.

Ezra Levant (43:44)

Right.

Judy Trinh (43:45)

No, we were talking and told Nate.

Ezra Levant (43:48)

Everything'S gonna be okay.

Drea Humphrey (43:49)

Right?

Ezra Levant (43:49)

Everything's switching now. Yeah.

Drea Humphrey (43:51)

The way it's supposed to be a turning point.

Jim Kerr (43:53)

Yes. Yeah.

Judy Trinh (43:55)

And they're going to be free and stuff like that. We knew it.

Drea Humphrey (44:00)

Yeah. So you knew it. Any words about seeing it, you know, come official? No jail time, but very, very stiff conditions.

Judy Trinh (44:08)

But that's. That's okay. We still got a. Still a win for us.

Drea Humphrey (44:13)

Yes.

Judy Trinh (44:13)

And it's amazing that, you know, that they even looked at it.

Ezra Levant (44:16)

Right.

Judy Trinh (44:17)

So that's. That's a big, huge step for us.

Drea Humphrey (44:19)

All right, Big bear, come over here. You heard the good news, obviously.

Judy Trinh (44:24)

Yeah.

Drea Humphrey (44:25)

And you were part of the convoy, too. So first, tell us about the news of the day. What you think about it.

Judy Trinh (44:30)

Okay, so everybody, Tamara Leech and Chris Barber are not going to prison, but there's still conditions. 12 months house arrest, I think for Tamara. 18 is it for Barber. He's not even allowed to leave Saskatchewan. To me, that's kind of a joke. You know, they were a symbol of freedom I was a big part of the Freedom Convoy right along with them. Me and Chris Barber are actually friends. You know, I've touched base with him here and there throughout the whole thing. I didn't meet Tamara actually, till not that long ago, but she was a lovely soul, you know, and yeah, I think, I think the politicians would have been committing political suicide if they honestly would have thrown them in jail. You know, looking at our economy, the drug addictions, the overdose, the mental health, people going broke all over the country, going homeless, you know, encampments everywhere, you know, people are at their breaking point. And I think if they would have thrown them in jail, they probably would have tipped people over the deep end to an extreme level. So they probably made that choice to, you know, let them not go to prison, you know, out of their best interest.

Drea Humphrey (45:38)

But, and, and what, what reason would they have to give the eight year sentence that the prosecutors were asking for? Tell us why you're here, why you've been coming back and forth at the farm and, and what it, how it connects to the Freedom Convoy.

Judy Trinh (45:55)

Well, it's, it's government overreach, just like which was happening in Covid with the.

Ezra Levant (45:59)

Mass and the mandates and all the chaos. Right.

Judy Trinh (46:03)

Like it was madness, you know, and then you have a government body coming to this family farm and stepping over on overreach, and we can clearly see the birds are healthy, you know what I mean? So, yeah, we can see the birds are healthy and obviously they don't need to be killed, you know, and there's, there's something not right about this picture.

Ezra Levant (46:24)

Just like there was something not right about COVID Right.

Drea Humphrey (46:27)

No, that's the key. Government overreach. That's what we're seeing. And again, thank you, Colin. Yeah, thank you again.

Judy Trinh (46:34)

Congratulations, Chris and Tamara.

Ezra Levant (46:35)

Definitely love you guys.

Judy Trinh (46:37)

And I'm just, I'm happy you're not going to prison.

Drea Humphrey (46:39)

Yeah, hopefully you see this. I saw some evil person saying they should take their Internet away too, like just demons. But you know what the narrative was that they were actual terrorists. But as Ezra said, even terrorists are getting lesser sentences. Can I ask you guys, what you think about today's big news today? Chris Barber, Tamara Leech. No jail time, but very stiff sentences nevertheless.

Jim Kerr (47:06)

Yeah, I mean, I think any sense, any sentence is preposterous, honestly. However, it's a lot less than, I think what was threatened and what it was kind of made out to be. And I think big picture, I'm sure if you asked them, they would say it was absolutely worth it. And they'd do it again.

Judy Trinh (47:25)

Oh, yeah.

Jim Kerr (47:26)

Right. And so I think, like, I know several people that, through Covid, were asked to make big sacrifices that went against their conscience. They decided not to. And every single person that I know who did that personally greatly rewarded for taking a stand for themselves and following their inner guidance. I think it's just really big picture. I think more and more and more, it'll just reinforce that. That it's always worth following your conscience.

Drea Humphrey (47:49)

And it's freeing. I mean, it really sucks that they're not technically free right now. And, of course, they were already in prison, but I know taking the stands I've did and gotten the consequences and everybody else, it sets you free. It really does. To San Andrew. So why are you both here today and for how many days at the ostrich farm?

Judy Trinh (48:08)

I'm probably here for another day. Yeah. I'm here to help fight the fight for the ostriches.

Ezra Levant (48:12)

Yeah.

Judy Trinh (48:13)

So I think what CFA is doing is wrong.

Ezra Levant (48:15)

Definitely.

Judy Trinh (48:16)

Should be other ways to help fight the virus. So. And if the healthy birds get killed today or tomorrow or the day after.

Ezra Levant (48:27)

Then who knows what they can come after?

Judy Trinh (48:29)

They can come after your farm animals at any other point.

Jim Kerr (48:33)

So there's got to be some policy change.

Ezra Levant (48:35)

Yep.

Drea Humphrey (48:36)

And you've been here for a while, coming and going. You were here the day that the CFIA and all of those cops descended on the farm, and they're still here two weeks later. What do you make of that? Even though there's a stay order, they're still here.

Ezra Levant (48:53)

Like, what?

Jim Kerr (48:54)

I mean, gosh, what to even say about that? You know, I think it just goes to show how much of a battle is really going on here, because it's clear. There's a few things that are incredibly clear for anyone paying attention. One, they want those birds dead. They want those birds dead.

Drea Humphrey (49:10)

Yeah.

Jim Kerr (49:10)

Right. They're not, as a natural agency for animal welfare and for the integrity of the. Of the food industry. If they were doing that, then while there was a state order, they would act in integrity and show, like, compassion to the animals and treat them as though they possibly have a life to live when this is all said and done. That's not what they're doing. They're making mockery of the justice system. They're just bulldozing ahead as if they planned it to kill those birds and showing not just incompetence. But I think what this is really revealing is the theatrical nature of a lot of our federal agencies.

Judy Trinh (49:43)

Right.

Jim Kerr (49:43)

That the people who have been hired aren't actually experts in the field, they're bureaucrats. And the prerequisite is will you follow orders and toe the line? And it's actually the opposite of what we were just talking a few minutes ago, which is like following your conscious, listening to, listening to that inner knowing of right and wrong. The prerequisite for this kind of work is someone who will override that system themselves.

Drea Humphrey (50:05)

So that's going to play out. That's a perfect thing. Thank you so much. Yeah, just follow the rules. Even if the rules make zero sense. This agency is all about government overreach. So was the Freedom Convoy. I know. I've spoken to Tamara Leach and Chris Barber. They were expecting the worst and I think the gentleman there who said I think they'd still do it again, I can't put words in their mouth about this but they know that they did what was right and they fought for our country and the way that they did in a way that should have been just peaceful. The Prime Minister should have come out to that Freedom Convoy, shook their hands and spoke to them and heard what they were asking. Not only representing the hundreds of thousands of people that showed up there but the millions across the country. And that's not what happened. And so we're seeing the longest mischief trial unfold and we are definitely seeing the longest CFIA standup on unfold on the taxpayers dollars against Canadians, against our freedoms, against what is right. I'm Drea Humphrey for Rebel News bringing you lots of reports from the farm at save the ostriches.com My friend Sid Bitzard who's my coworker as well came out to help me. He's leaving today and we are expecting Sheila, Gun Reed and Lyndon to arrive here because we don't want to miss this a second. We're hoping another good news comes and the Supreme Court says get out of here cfia. We're going to let them take this to Supreme Court. And oh my gosh, wouldn't that be a beautiful sight to see. The CFIA officials have to take this big super safe blue fence down and have to file out of here the way they came in. I, I hope and pray, pray that's what Rebel News is going to be bringing you. But if not, if the worst happens and they are going to be instead we believe shooting those healthy 300 pound ostriches whose eggs the farmers say are part of research that's life saving research that competes with big pharma, not MRNA technology, antibody research. If they shoot those, those birds down, Rebel News is going to be here to show you that great atrocity, just like we did. We had our foods on the feet, on the ground during the trucker convoy. We showed you everything that what was happening. We'll do the same here. And so all of that is @save the ostriches.com if you want to be a part of making our journalism possible, just like we did in the trucker convoy, having multiple rebels here, having team back home, back east east running things sometimes through the middle of the night when there's emergencies here, please do so at our special website called savetheostriches.com.

Ezra Levant (53:04)

Well, Dre is doing such a great job. When I say she's the queen of the ostriches, that's just sort of a fun little joke I have. But actually it felt like she's the mayor of the whole area there. She's been there so much. She's done so many reports. Last I checked it was like 60. And I think she has a lot of responsibility for the fact that so many people around the world have heard the story. Anyways, let me read some of your letters to me about my visit to the ostrich farm. Wayne Venables commented, rcmp protecting criminals. Par for the course. Take them ffs. The cops are corrupt. Remember Coutts, when they vandalize private equipment on private land, they do not work for us. On a letter, note them telling Ezra he could get a ticket for using his cell phone while driving. And he says, come get it. If it wasn't for Rebel, well, I just don't know where we would be. God bless you all. I will admit I was a little bit rude. You know, I actually, I recorded a lot of stuff and I sent it back and I was on the go. So I haven't watched actually the final version of the show and I'm glad that made the cut. I admit I was a little bit lippy, but I was in mood to be talked to by a massive police operation designed to cover up what the CFIA is doing. I want to tell you that I read Robert F. Kennedy Jr. S letter again and that, I mean, I had just read about it, but I actually read the whole thing through. It's a very well written letter where he says, look, these birds are of scientific and medical importance. They were sick and now they're better and they have herd immunity. We should study them because we could learn about natural immunity for avian flu. And these birds are very valuable. And he says in his letter, america stands by to help you with our most modern technology, we'll give you the infrastructure, we'll be partners with you, or even if you don't want to, we'll do it ourselves. So it was such a good offer and the letter really clarified for me why these birds are important, which helped me figure out my new working theory for why the government wants to kill them. But because you could learn about natural immunity, we could study these birds and how they got better from the avian flu. Or you could kill them, erase all trace of what happened to them, so Moderna and Pfizer could sell their MRNA vaccines. I think that's what's really going on. Peter Renshaw commented. Welcome Canada to the Great Reset. How do you like it so far? You know, there's so much World Economic Forum vibes in the police operation there. So starting with the fact that the Canadian Food Inspection Agency. What are they doing? They're not. There's no food here. These birds are not being farmed for their meat. It's a scientific project. They're going in with the public health theater of the Hazmat suits like they're in the Wuhan Virology Institute or something. There's so much baloney going on and I salute Robert F. Kennedy Jr. For trying to pierce through it. And I just keep coming back to that comment I heard today of Judy Trinh of CTB trying to draw a link between the ostrich protesters and the trucker protesters. And I suppose there is a link. Both of them believe in freedom. Both of them are opposed to government overreach. Both are sick of being told what to do by distant and partisan bureaucrats. To Judy, though, she sees something different. People who have to be smashed by the state. That's all from my report today. We had other journalists working on other projects, including Alexei Lavoie in Montreal. Today, as you may know, is the two year anniversary of the Hamas massacre that killed over 1200 people in Israel and took over 200 hostages, many of whom are still being held in Gaza. It's as I've said before, what happened in Israel was terrible, but I am much more worried about what's happening in Canada. Alexa will have that report, I imagine, tomorrow. Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World headquarters, to you at home, good night and keep fighting for freedom.