I went to Nova Scotia to find the new Canadian spaceport

Summary

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Episode Overview

Title: I went to Nova Scotia to find the new Canadian spaceport
Podcast: Rebel News Podcast – The Ezra Levant Show
Date: April 24, 2026
Host: Ezra Levant
Guest: Marie Lumsden (local resident and citizen journalist)

In this episode, Ezra Levant travels to the small town of Canso, Nova Scotia, to investigate the controversial Canadian "spaceport" project. Levant interviews Marie Lumsden, author of a widely-shared investigative article and local community member, to uncover the reality behind a $200 million government contract, claims of national space ambitions, and allegations of mismanagement and corruption.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Federal Spaceport Announcement ([00:39]–[02:29])

• Government's Justification:
  A Canadian Government Official (not named) outlines the importance of domestic space launch capability, citing sovereignty, security, and economic benefits.
• Contract Details:
  • Maritime Launch Services awarded a 10-year, $200 million lease for the spaceport.
  • $180 million to be spent in Canada; purported jobs and economic stimulus for Nova Scotia.
• Location: Near Canso, Nova Scotia, described as ideal due to geography and proximity to the ocean.

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2. On-the-Ground Reality ([02:29]–[07:55])

• Levant’s Investigation:
  Levant describes traveling to Canso, motivated by skepticism over the existence of a functioning spaceport.

• Findings:

  • The so-called facility is essentially "a slab of concrete on a bit of a field of gravel" (Ezra Levant, [02:29]).
  • Maritime Launch Services leases the land from the province for ~$13,500/year, but receives $20 million/year from the federal Department of Defense.
  • Only two launches occurred: both low-level, hobbyist or educational in nature (including a meter-and-a-half high rocket from York University students).
  • No infrastructure, no buildings, and certainly nothing resembling NASA or SpaceX facilities.

• Stock Price & Financial Questions:

  • Before the government infusion, Maritime Launch Services was "basically a penny stock" ([02:29]).
  • The government contract instantly inflated the stock price, raising questions about who benefitted from this windfall.

“It's the craziest thing I've seen. A $200 million military lease for a spaceport that doesn't have anything on it, but some concrete slab.”
— Ezra Levant ([02:29])

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3. Local Concerns & Community Opposition ([07:55]–[11:12])

• Marie Lumsden’s Perspective:
  • Received news of the project in 2019 with "approval with conditions" from the Nova Scotia government.
  • Major worries included threats to homes, way of life, and the local environment.
  • Geography: About 1,100 people live within 5.5 km; Lumsden’s own home is just 2.8 km from the site.
• The “Airport Model”:
  • The company proposes an "airport model" where clients bring their own rockets for launch, but builds nothing themselves.
  • Levant and Lumsden find this highly implausible.

“It makes no sense. Let's find out, you know… It just didn't make sense.”
— Marie Lumsden ([08:18])

• Lack of Community Presence:
  • “They have no office here… There's no presence in the community." ([10:56])
  • Hostility and skepticism among locals; community not widely supportive.

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4. Allegations of a Scam & Regulatory Issues ([12:02]–[14:47])

• Red Flags:
  • Lumsden and collaborators drew on anti-corruption expertise (e.g., consulting Don Bowser, with experience in Ukraine).
  • Project originally involved a Ukrainian rocket, now abandoned.
• Financial Discrepancies:
  • Federal lease is about $54,000 a day for empty land, backdated a full year (“$35 million for doing nothing” — Levant, [13:27]).
  • The land is leased from the province for only $13,500/year, leased back to Ottawa for $20 million/year.

“That, I think, is a form of money laundering, because no one pays historically for a lease they didn’t use. Unless they're just trying to shove money to some friends.”
— Ezra Levant ([13:27])

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5. Media Coverage, Community Manipulation, & Political Ties ([15:52]–[23:07])

• Community Division:

  • Lumsden explains how companies manipulate local support by forming strategic “liaison committees” that act as advocates—even when true support is low.

• Petition Controversy:

  • Evidence that non-local names, repeat signatures, and pressure tactics were used to manufacture support ([16:40]).

• Media Misreporting:

  • Outlets repeated inflated population figures and project claims without fact-checking; Lumsden’s group had to repeatedly correct the record.

• Political & Business Connections:

  • Former Premier Stephen McNeil, who enthusiastically endorsed the project, is now on Maritime Launch Services’ advisory board ([23:07]).
  • Links to Ukrainian partners and individuals with controversial backgrounds.
  • Some company figures reportedly fined by NASA, “defrocked” as investment dealers.

"They are all sketchy and I think there's a lot more that we haven't uncovered."
— Marie Lumsden ([22:14])

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6. Skepticism About the Spaceport’s Reality ([18:20]–[19:14], [19:45])

• Lack of Infrastructure:
  Both Levant and Lumsden stress there is no sign of real construction, rocket assembly, or actual launch capability on site.
• Absurdity of the Situation:
  The entire setup remains a slab in a field, with no observable progress.

"It's not funny for us, though. We've had to—I mean, it's absurd that we've had to fight this for seven years. It's disgusting. The whole thing is disgusting, really.”
— Marie Lumsden ([19:48])

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7. Calls for Accountability & Next Steps ([23:55]–[24:36])

• Requests for Investigation:

  • Lumsden has contacted the Auditor General, urging an investigation into the financial and political dealings around the project.

• Ultimate Wish:

  • "I want the event to be, I want them to pull the plug on this ridiculous project, and I want it to be investigated." — Marie Lumsden ([24:19])

• Host’s Summary View:
  Levant closes with appreciation for Lumsden’s efforts and hopes increased attention will prompt action.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the project's reality:
  "There is no spaceport, but there is a $200 million lease ... It's just a slab of concrete on a bit of a field of gravel."
  — Ezra Levant ([02:29])

• On the airport model:
  "You BYOR—bring your own rocket to Canso. Needless to say, the local people here sense a scam afoot and they also have questions."
  — Ezra Levant ([02:29])

• On government spending:
  "The Department of Defense paid for a year's lease, $20 million retroactively that they didn't use ... $35 million for doing nothing."
  — Ezra Levant ([13:27])

• On community impact:
  "We've had to fight this for seven years. It's disgusting. The whole thing is disgusting, really. We're being treated like, you know, something on the bottom of someone’s shoe."
  — Marie Lumsden ([19:45])

• On political connections:
  "The Premier of Nova Scotia, former Premier Stephen McNeil gave a glowing endorsement ... and surprise, surprise, he’s on their advisory board now."
  — Ezra Levant ([23:07])

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Important Timestamps

• 00:39–02:29: Official government announcement and contract overview
• 02:29–07:55: Levant's description of the site, financial oddities, and local context
• 07:55–11:12: Marie Lumsden on project origins, environmental/community concerns
• 11:12–14:47: The slab photo, regulatory vacuum, and explosive financial disparities
• 15:52–18:09: Manipulation of local support, petition controversy, media issues
• 18:20–22:27: Absence of infrastructure, skepticism, personalities behind the project
• 23:55–24:36: Calls for investigation and hopes for accountability

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Summary

This episode of The Ezra Levant Show dives deep into the story behind the so-called Canadian spaceport in Canso, Nova Scotia. Far from a hub of technological progress, Levant and Lumsden paint a picture of an empty field and a $200 million federal outlay, raising serious questions of accountability, transparency, and community impact. The entire project, as revealed on the ground, seems less a leap into the future and more an example of government largesse and questionable corporate benefit—with local residents and taxpayers left in the dark.

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For listeners and readers:
If you care about public spending, transparency, and real technological progress, this episode is essential listening—and a warning to dig deeper behind the headlines.

Transcript

[Ezra Levant]

Foreign. Tonight I'm in small town Nova Scotia to look for this liberal government spaceport. It's April 24th and this is the Ezra Levant Show. Shame on you, you Sensori.

[Canadian Government Official]

A fully interconnected system from Yellowknife to Trenton, to ships and submarines at sea and to fighter jets in the air. Canada needs its own space capability. But it's not only satellites that are critical to the defence and security of Canadians, its access to space itself. It's why we're taking steps to strengthen our space capabilities so that we can launch from right here on Canadian soil. Simply put, every investment we make in space today and every technology that we develop is an investment in our economy, our people, our security and our sovereignty. That's why I'm thrilled to announce that the Department of National Defence has signed a 10 year, $200 million agreement with Maritime Launch Services as part of Canada's sovereign launch program. This agreement will support the construction of a launch pad for use by the Department of National Defence, the Canadian Armed Forces and the wider government of Canada. Maritime Launch Services will build this spaceport facility at a site near Canso, Nova Scotia. It's an ideal location for operating safely and efficiently, thanks to its natural geography and proximity to the open ocean. Under this agreement, Maritime Launch services must spend 90% of the $200 million here in Canada, which means $180 million is going back to Canadian businesses. This investment not only supports our national defence, it will create high value jobs and contribute to the Nova Scotia economy.

[Ezra Levant]

Ezra Levant for Rebel News. I am in the small town of Canso, Nova Scotia. We flew to Halifax and then drove three hours here. And we came because of a picture. A picture of a port, not a seaport, but of a proposed spaceport being built in tiny Kanso, Nova Scotia. And this spaceport recently got a $200 million contract from Canada's Department of Defense in the form of a 10 year lease. Canada's military is spending $200 million leasing this spaceport. But there is no spaceport. It's just a slab of concrete on a bit of a field of gravel. There is no spaceport, but there is a $200 million lease over 10 years. That's $20 million a year works out to $54,000 a day for an empty plot of land for the company Marine Launch Services that they actually rent from the province for less than 15 grand a year. It's the craziest thing I've seen. A $200 million military lease for a spaceport that doesn't have anything on it, but some concrete slab we had to come out to investigate. And as we were making the journey, we studied more of what we saw and all the irregularities. How this company, Marine Launch Services, was basically a penny stock until this massive financing came in, in which the holders of the stock instantly became millionaires. The stock price jumped from a few pennies to $0.70 as all that government cash came in. Who were the people who profited? And more to the point, is there any space port at all? The Marine Launch Services has had this spaceport for years, but there's only been two launches. And they're not into outer space. They're more like toy rockets. In fact, the first one was by some students at York University whose rocket was a meter and a half high. It's the kind of thing that kids would play at. It's not a real place. And unlike, say, Elon Musk's SpaceX or NASA, there's no infrastructure there, there's no buildings at all. We were unable to get to the slab. We'll try another day, I'm sure, but there's simply nothing there. The idea, which is so bizarre, I've never heard of it before, is that companies that want to launch a rocket will bring their rocket to Canso, Nova Scotia and launch it from this slab. So they're not going to build any rockets here, they're not going to house any rockets here. You byor bring your own rocket to Canso. Needless to say, the local people here sense a scam afoot and they also have questions. For example, environmentalists, will this damage the fisheries safety? There are houses within just a couple of kilometers of the spaceport. I suppose on the one hand, the fact that it's so obviously a scam that we'll never actually shoot anything into outer space is a relief. But the whole thing is so bizarre we simply had to check it out. We were motivated largely by a deeply researched piece on this spaceport, not by a regime journalist at CBC or ctv, but by a citizen journalist who simply started to document the crazy things she saw and heard and what she found online about this very strange company, Marine Launch Services, that started off as a Ukrainian space project that would have a Ukrainian made rocket, abandoned that idea and is now a spaceport in Kanso. Follow me as we talk to Marie Lumsden, the author of that article. Ezra Levant here for Rebel News. I'm in Canso, Nova Scotia. What a beautiful place. Few hours, about three hours drive from Halifax. This is the hometown of Stan Rogers and his family. He wrote Barrett's Privateers. He was a great songwriter and really had the culture of Nova Scotia and just looking around, it couldn't be more beautiful. Oh, I ache with nostalgia for a place I've never been before. That's how beautiful it is. But I'm worried about this place because I just read an article in the Halifax examiner, which is a left of center publication. But I read an article that was so meticulously researched, I came out here with my videographer, Lincoln J. Because just down there amidst all the beauty is this cockamamie scheme, and I'm going to call it a scheme to build a spaceport. You heard it right, a spaceport. And the government of Canada just signed a $200 million lease for an empty plot of land there. And they say they're going to rival SpaceX. I'm talking with Marie Lumsden who wrote the article in the Halifax Examiner. It was meticulously researched. It was enough that we got up and flew and drove all the way here. That was very powerful. Tell us a little bit about this spaceport that you've been studying.

[Marie Lumsden]

So in 2019, we found out that this project received an approval with conditions from the province in Nova Scotia. And the first thing I wrote Minister Miller, who, she was no longer in her position anymore, and I said, you know, this is not the Canada I know and love. This is not my country.

[Ezra Levant]

What were you worried about?

[Marie Lumsden]

Really wrong? Well, first I was just, I was just shocked that it was. I was worried about our homes, I was worried about our way of life, I was worried about the environment around us. Everything about it I was worried about. But it took a while before we learned, you know, we started, first thing we did, we said, this is, this is crazy. This makes no sense. It makes no sense. So let's find out, you know, makes no sense. It just didn't make sense.

[Ezra Levant]

Like a spaceport in Canson, Nova Scotia. It's not the first place you would think.

[Marie Lumsden]

No. And it's, it's, it's very close to our community.

[Ezra Levant]

2.8 kilometers to your home, you were telling me.

[Marie Lumsden]

2.8 kilometers to my home.

[Ezra Levant]

And there's closer to even some others.

[Marie Lumsden]

Yeah, well, basically, if you look at it as a U shape where the open part of the U is the ocean. Okay. So you basically have three communities. We call them collectively Canso. There's Canso, there's Hazel Hill and there's Little Dover. And they're sort of go around the three sides of the U. So yeah. And you have, we have about 1100 people within five and a half kilometers of this. And when they first started this, they talked about this Ukrainian rocket, which is a 127 foot tall, untested Ukrainian rocket that they were going to launch within 3km of our community. So naturally, yeah, we were concerned.

[Ezra Levant]

Well, I read your article and I started learning about the company behind this, Maritime Launch Services. And it is close to the sea, so that's a maritime part. But they've had this property for about a decade. They've only launched two rockets.

[Marie Lumsden]

They haven't technically had had it. They, they needed to get a lease and I'm not sure which year it was. They didn't have. The Property wasn't leased 10 years ago. So they registered with joint stocks in 2016. And then all of this, you know.

[Ezra Levant]

So they've had two rockets, neither has gone into outer space. One was by some students, some kids at York University, and the other was a European rocket that sort of spun around and fizzed out.

[Marie Lumsden]

You have one spun around. The first one was only about one and a half meters tall.

[Ezra Levant]

Like that's almost a toy.

[Marie Lumsden]

Spun off and went, wouldn't have me.

[Ezra Levant]

So that's, that's, that, that, that big.

[Marie Lumsden]

It's pretty much a hobby rocket. And the only regulations they really have were for, you know, science for research and hobby rockets. And to date, the federal government still only has, as far as we understand. Well, they just did a consultation and they still don't have a framework for space or, or a proper regulations or requirements for launching into space, despite the fact that they've already, you know.

[Ezra Levant]

So this company, Maritime $100 million. Yeah, well, that's the thing. This. I was looking at the financials for this company and it looked like a, I'm not gonna say a shell company, but it wasn't.

[Marie Lumsden]

Well, you know, they have no office here. They have an office at Purdy's in Halifax. That's. I don't know if it's a satellite thing. There's no office in the community and they wouldn't have one because it would be egged and protested at and there's no presence in the community.

[Ezra Levant]

Well, the thing that really got us to come out here was the picture that you published of the so called launch pad. It's just a big GR with a bit of a slab in it, Frank.

[Marie Lumsden]

Originally it had three PVC pipes sticking out of it. At some point they shaved those off or I don't know if they've been filled or, you know, it's basically like A shed pad. It's not a. Yeah, I mean you couldn't launch anything into space from it or.

[Ezra Levant]

And they've announced that they're gonna have what they call an airport model where you sort of. You're a customer, you bring your own rocket. You bring your own rocket and launch it. I didn't know that was a thing. I didn't. I mean, I guess these kids from York University brought their own rocke. But that's not really a spaceport. That's sort of a toy area. Model rocketry. Is this for real or is this just some financial scam?

[Marie Lumsden]

We think it's a scam. When we first got together, we did an event that was our sort of public forum and we brought this gentleman named Don Bowser. And Don Bowser was a friend of someone we knew, a journalist we knew. And he's put out a series of videos particularly about this Ukrainian issue.

[Ezra Levant]

It's a Ukrainian company because there's a

[Marie Lumsden]

long history of corruption. Okay. And this looks like more of the same. So he's, he, he's worked in anti corruption in Ukraine. And I would talk to him if I were you because he, he. The red flags were. It was pretty obvious to him very early on that this might be more of.

[Ezra Levant]

Yeah, there's environmental questions, there's safety questions. I don't think there's such a thing as an airport spaceport where people bring their own rocket.

[Marie Lumsden]

How ingenious. Right. Because it costs them. I think they have to pay insurance. You might want to look at that lease agreement because there may be a clause in there, but the federal government is willing to pick up, I don't know, insurance. The lease is a provincial crown land. So they. According to Department of Natural Resources. So we looked at that document, it's $13,500 to lease annually. So I mean, what a great deal. So this is provincial land, right. And they're leasing it for 13,500 and then they're leasing it back to the federal government for $20 million a year. So there's nothing wrong with that.

[Ezra Levant]

Well, that's the thing, is that this company was pretty sketchy on paper, was losing an enormous amount of money. Its share price was almost worthless. And then suddenly the federal Department of defense announces a $200 million lease for what is an empty pad. And here's the crazy thing, and I've never heard this before in my life, it's a 10 year lease, 20 million bucks a year. That works out too. I did the math. $54,000 a day. This MD pad, but they backdated it by a year. So the federal government, the Department of Defense, paid for a year's lease, $20 million retroactively that they didn't use it. So this year alone, this company, this sketchy company, will get 35 million bucks. The backdated lease, plus this year's lease, 35 million. It's right there in the lease. 35 million for doing nothing. And like you just explained, they're actually only paying 13,000 a year for the land. That I think that's a form of money laundering because no one pays historically for a lease they didn't use. Unless they're just trying to shove money to some friends.

[Marie Lumsden]

There has to be someone who can look at the. I mean, I'm no financial expert, but

[Ezra Levant]

I looked at the stock market because this is actually a publicly traded company over the counter.

[Marie Lumsden]

And.

[Ezra Levant]

And the stock went from like 2 or 3 cents, it skyrocketed to 60 plus cents. So the people who had their stock and converted it to stock at 5 cents, they multiplied their money by 10. Who are these people who got a sweetheart deal, a backdated lease, a $35 million bonus from this government? I've never heard of this before. I've never heard of. Have you ever heard of a backdated lease?

[Marie Lumsden]

Manipulative characters. Yeah, they really are. And they've done a lot of damage in this community already.

[Ezra Levant]

I don't believe they're actually ever going to get a real spaceport here. I don't think it makes sense.

[Marie Lumsden]

That's not the game. The game is to. I mean, once the gravy train is, they'll drag it on as long as they. As they can.

[Ezra Levant]

And then they'll.

[Marie Lumsden]

Money's going in there. That's what I believe.

[Ezra Levant]

And then they'll just vaporize and move somewhere else. Now, you said that the local community is opposed to the space park.

[Marie Lumsden]

Not everybody in the community is. So what we witness is before a lot of people were really aware of what this was or what was happening. Part of the EA process is to form liaison. That's the environmental assessment, is to form a liaison committee. So what happens? And this is all textbook. This happens everywhere. And the whole consultation, all of it is all textbook. So the company comes in and they strategically choose people from certain organizations. They form this group. And it's almost as if what happens is the liaison committee is sort of sold on the project. And then that liaison committee sort of works to be like an advocate. I mean, and this is where the issue with the petition, for instance, you know, what we saw happen with the

[Ezra Levant]

petition, I read about that, that people from out of town were signing petition, the same names on there 20 times.

[Marie Lumsden]

I think what had happened is they, they tried to circulate it in the community and weren't getting, you know, this is the whole, I mean there was a whole, there was a whole issue, I think that RCMP recalled and there was, they were basically told, you need to leave the local cooperative store. Right this. Okay. So I think what had happened and we retrieved it from the legislature. So we, you know, what happened was, I think they just couldn't find the names locally and they started shoving it along, you know, into the next town and the next town in the, you know, and they just. Yeah, local supporters, not Was. So this company has claimed that everybody wants this. And you know, and, and I mean if you look at the. And we've tried to fight, I mean press, press have put, put things out and we've called, we contacted the editor and said this is false. The issue that the article with the Canadian Geographic was shocking. And the first couple of paragraphs they said there were 71, 000 people living in. And it all went downhill from there. So what happened is one of our group got in touch with them and said, you know, this is all false. This is not. You know, they take the article down, then they edited a little and put it back up. Eventually it was taken down. But we've constantly had to fight to get media to tell the truth about this because this company is constantly sending out press releases. You've probably seen the press releases and that. No one's fact checking anything. No one's. And we live in the middle of, you know, we're a small community and we're all Nova Scotia. So no one's listening to us and they're not.

[Ezra Levant]

Yeah, well, we're listening and I read your. It was an outstanding article. Are you a professional journalist?

[Marie Lumsden]

No, no.

[Ezra Levant]

Boy, it was, it was rigorous.

[Marie Lumsden]

I'm a graduate of Canso High School and the University of King's College.

[Ezra Levant]

Well, you're a pride to those organizations. I have a dumb question because I'm not an expert in rockets, but I know a tiny bit about SpaceX. That's Elon Musk. And I know a tiny bit about NASA. And one of the things I know is that where you launch the rocket is often where you assemble them, build them. Because these rockets are huge, like the size of a skyscraper really. Some of those new ones that Elon Musk is so how on Earth if, if there's no vehicle assembly, like rocket assembly, if there's no factory, how can a rocket come here to be launched? I don't understand that.

[Marie Lumsden]

Oh, gee, we don't understand it either.

[Ezra Levant]

I don't understand how is, how do they pitch it? I've.

[Marie Lumsden]

We've talked to people and they said. Another journalist, and she told us, she said, you know, in Toronto or in, you know, points further east or west, people actually think that there's buildings out there, that there's a barren.

[Ezra Levant]

It's a slab.

[Marie Lumsden]

There's nothing there. There's nothing there. Now we were, it's all talk.

[Ezra Levant]

We were going to try and go there because I wanted to stand on that slab and do my video standing on the slab. But it's a little bit hard to get to. Are they trying to block people from seeing it or is it just so remote?

[Marie Lumsden]

It. It is remote and, and, but like I said, there's people with ATVs that go through there routinely and don't seem to care about the. I don't know. I'm sure they do. They did not want the photograph that I shared.

[Ezra Levant]

Yeah, that was all over the place.

[Marie Lumsden]

I mean, sure of that, right?

[Ezra Levant]

It's shocking. But it's also funny, basically, that it,

[Marie Lumsden]

it's not funny for us, though. We've had, We've had to. I mean, it's absurd that we've had to fight this for seven years. It's disgusting. The whole thing is disgusting, really. We're being treated like, you know, something on the bottom of someone's shoe. Honestly, our politicians are. They don't. We've sat with them. They don't listen to us. They're all. I think they've all been either been manipulated or they're complicit in this. I don't know.

[Ezra Levant]

A lot of countries have a space program because it's kind of a national pride thing and it's sort of a bragging thing. And by the way, there was recently a Canadian astronaut on that NASA Artemis flight. So Canada is in space. Remember the old Canadarm on the shuttle? Those are real things.

[Marie Lumsden]

Lots of bright people in Canada, right?

[Ezra Levant]

This feels fake. It feels like it's a. I can't help but saying the word scam. It's not real. This is not a national pride thing. I don't know how they managed to get 200 million bucks for it. That's what puzzles me and that's why I care.

[Marie Lumsden]

Lobbying, the. I mean, it's almost as if maybe the Fed Said, you know, just take this and go away. We're sick of listening to you. I have no idea.

[Ezra Levant]

200 million including back pay. I've never heard of paying back pay for. At least you didn't use it.

[Marie Lumsden]

It's beyond surreal. I think people don't. It's so insane. I don't think people really. They can't even consider. It's hard to believe, honestly. But this is what's happening here.

[Ezra Levant]

I think your article lit a fire. I saw there was a story in the National Post. Tristan Hopper did that and he used that slab photo, which is hilarious on social media. Twitter has just taken. Taken off. That's why we came here, because we saw that slab and I just thought, that surely can't be it. So you say they just don't even have a presence here. They're just not even hearing office here or anything.

[Marie Lumsden]

They come once in a while and they go to the local. One of the local little restaurant there and they, you know, but they meet with the liaison committee.

[Ezra Levant]

You know what, in their promotional materials, they talk about the. They talk about the infrastructure, they talk about services. There's no infrastructure. There's no services.

[Marie Lumsden]

No, there isn't.

[Ezra Levant]

I really.

[Marie Lumsden]

They're servicing themselves. Right. This is all. Yeah.

[Ezra Levant]

You know, because they're publicly traded, they're under strict scrutiny by regulators for. For investment. In fact, one of the bosses was defrocked from. As an investment dealer, wasn't he?

[Marie Lumsden]

Yeah, he was.

[Ezra Levant]

And you did a good biography of all the people involved. They're all sketchy.

[Marie Lumsden]

They are all sketchy and I think there's a lot more that we haven't uncovered. I think there's going to be. There may be some whistleblowers around who have something.

[Ezra Levant]

People were fined.

[Marie Lumsden]

Hard to believe that this is it. It's too dirty.

[Ezra Levant]

People involved with this spaceport have been fined by NASA for failing to live up to their promises. They've been defrocked as investment dealers. There's. There's so many. There's been corruption in other countries.

[Marie Lumsden]

I wrote to.

[Ezra Levant]

I feel like we're a soft touch.

[Marie Lumsden]

I wrote to Minister McGinty and we explained all of this. Right.

[Ezra Levant]

Did he ever write back?

[Marie Lumsden]

No. McGinty never responded. Let me ask you, Prime Minister Carney's office respondent said, you know, we'll be sure to read the sort of stock, the same email they give to everybody. Right.

[Ezra Levant]

I understand that they've been informed. Yeah. Well, maybe, maybe they're in on it. Let me ask you, the Premier of Nova Scotia, former Premier Stephen McNeil gave a glowing endorsement of this when he was premier. And surprise, surprise, he's on their advisory board now.

[Marie Lumsden]

Yeah, well, you have to wonder. Surprise. Savann Laporte, they signed a deal with Ukrainians in 2017 to cooperate in space. Despite all of this dirty, you know, the corruption, the Ukrainian space agency. And Zavan Laporte is on the team, right? I don't know. I can't, you know, I can't outright say it's corruption. I don't know. But it needs. I wrote the auditor general yesterday, I think, and said, can you please, you know, Karen Hogan, can you please look into this? Because there's something terribly wrong with this. Yeah. Yeah.

[Ezra Levant]

Well, this. I'm so glad that you have taken a public stand, and I'm glad the story's going viral because of those photos. Hopefully that we can add to some of this discussion. Is there anything else that you'd like to tell us about? Because there's so much information about this. Is there a moment, is there a milestone or an event coming up that, that we should be looking at?

[Marie Lumsden]

The event. I want the event to be. I want them to pull the plug on this ridiculous project, and I want it to be investigated. So, you know, I mean, we'll keep doing what we're doing and we'll keep digging, but this needs to be looked at because it's wrong on every level. It's wrong. Yeah.

[Ezra Levant]

Great to talk with you. Thanks for your time.

[Marie Lumsden]

You, too.