
Today, we're looking at comments criticizing Albertan separatists and the province's potential to succeed on its own, along with former prime ministers Jean Chrétien and Stephen Harper weighing in on the issue. Plus, newly released Jeffrey Epstein emails show the convicted human trafficker had a conversation with a Harvard scientist about the benefits of turning children transgender.
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Sheila Gunn
Foreign.
Lise Merle
Oh, hey, good morning. Good afternoon everybody. Depending on which part of this beautiful country that you're in, you're watching Rebel Roundup. I'm your regular host, Sheila. Gunry Knit is Tuesday, so I am joined by my real life best friend in the whole wide world, Lise Merle from Regina, Saskatchewan, Lisa. How's it going?
Sheila Gunn
Well, I am your irregular guest, Sheila Gunn and I'm, I'm, I'm coming in colorful today because did I or did I not write a best selling book about a rainbow unicorn?
Lise Merle
Exactly, exactly that color. Now some of you have written in to tell me yesterday that we were off the rev limiter. That might have been the case. But we're gonna try to keep it in our lanes today. Maybe not swear on camera. We'll see how it goes. Though I, I might be making promises that I have no ability to keep. I should tell everybody what we're doing around here real quick because we got a super packed show. I think you know already I'm regretting even making that promise because this first one is probably going to put lease into orbit. Our first topic. If I know my best friend, and I believe I do, this one's really gonna just grind your gears. But if you are watching us on Rumble, thank you. That's a great free speech platform. If you want to get involved in the show, support the work that we do wherein we give you something back and that's your say, you can leave a Rumble rant. If it's over the five dollar US cutoff, it's obligatory that we read it on air. If you are watching us on YouTube, the paid chat over there is called a super chat. Same rules apply. If it's over the five dollar US cut off, we'll read it on air. If it's under that, we'll do our very best to get to it. And if you miss the live version of the show, YouTube has an additional way that you can support us and that's by leaving a super thanks. That's their paid chat and let's get into it, shall we? So I like the entire Internet I believe have been on the Epstein files. Rabbit hole, but it's more of a rat hole. Ant farm everywhere.
Sheila Gunn
Snake pit, A den of snakes.
Lise Merle
Thank you. What do they call that? A habituary or a hibernaculum? A snake hibernaculum. There's your new word of the day, people where the snakes all tangle up and go to sleep, but they also wriggle and writhe all the time under the ground. You know, they're there. You don't want to pick up that old sheet of plywood because you know they're there and then they'll just come out. That has been the Epstein files. And I think you can put it in like multiple categories. So there's like the weird sex stuff and then there's the weird influence pedaling stuff, and then there's like the weird science stuff that he does and then there's like. Then the weird science stuff sort of tracks over top of the weird sex stuff. Anyways, I've been. I've been doing my best to make sense of it all. I don't think I can. I don't like these rich people, man.
Sheila Gunn
We are going to need a whiteboard for this Sheila gun read. And about 48 hours in a hotel room. They are. There they are a post it whiteboard. Yeah. Really quite staggering. I've only. I just got to be really careful because I find it so disturbing. Like I find the whole thing so disturbing that I got to be really careful about what I. What I chased down. What I'm still interested in, though, is how the CBC was related to Jeffrey Epstein and the relationship there.
Lise Merle
Friendly as all get out. Yeah, it's been weird. And you know what's been revelatory in all of this is that the trans madness was never an organic thing, was it?
Sheila Gunn
Of course it wasn't.
Lise Merle
It was these rich weirdos talking about it years ago and then infecting other people's kids with this suicidal ideology. And so this is from Gays Against Groomers. And this is shocking. Ep. Jeffrey Epstein spoke to a Harvard scientist about the sexual benefits. Oh, I hate even reading this. Of turning children trans and spoke of doing so as young as three years old. And I'm just gonna. Can we dig in the. There's the screenshot there and then there's a picture of Jeffrey Epstein, which, by the way, I was watching the. A video of him and what's his face. Formerly of Breitbart, Steve Bannon. You'd think that this guy, for all of his wealth and connections, would have done something to correct his horrible New York accent and his insufferable voice. Yeah, can we just listen to a little of this? It's.
Sheila Gunn
Please.
Lise Merle
Revolting.
Sheila Gunn
Please.
Lise Merle
Like, straight up creep show. He's got all the money to have somebody come and train him not to talk like this. Like, I look, I know I sound like an Albertan. Two Michelob Ultras. I'm up in my nose and I've got to stop saying for sure you know, like, I know I don't fancy.
Sheila Gunn
Deadly.
Lise Merle
Deadly and right on. Like, I. I know. Look, it happens to me one time. I did it around a very. I did it around Conrad Black and I was like, my God, what have I done?
Sheila Gunn
That's where. That's where I like my Saski to come out is in polite circles. I like ask you to just. Oof. I like to make it fancy circles.
Lise Merle
These people know what they're getting out of me. But yes. Anyways, let's listen to just a little bit. I know. Olivia, thank you for finding this. This is totally off topic, but this I find very strange. His voice, right? Like, he could have fixed this. There are vocal coaches to have done this for you, especially in the circles.
Sheila Gunn
Dialect coaches. Yeah, yeah.
Lise Merle
Just. Let's just listen to a little bit of it.
Sheila Gunn
Okay.
Jean Crèchen
In business terms, you should never lend to. But what we'll do is we're going to. I'm going to form an agency called Fannie Mae and Ginnie Mae, another agency, names. They'll guarantee your loan. So don't worry. Don't worry. You don't have to pay it back anymore. Even though you. And maybe you don't even have to work as hard anymore. That's probably a harsh statement. But these players, these two big firms. Fannie Maege will guarantee the fact that that bank will receive its money.
Lise Merle
Just the way he talks feels like my inner ears being licked out by an anteater.
Sheila Gunn
He sounds exactly like you think a con man would sound, like a molester.
Lise Merle
He talks like a molester. Right?
Sheila Gunn
Like an alleyway flasher. You know what I mean?
Lise Merle
Like trench coat flasher. Yes, for sure.
Sheila Gunn
One of those public menaces. Like a sex pest.
Lise Merle
Sex pest. Sex pest voice. Completely. Anyway, let's go back to Gays Against Groomers. This is from 2018. This is the email that they dug up. And so this is sort of when the trans madness was really popping off.
Sheila Gunn
This was. This was. I mean, this was the. This was right in the thick of it. This was right in the lead up to it. I'm trying to. Go ahead. I'm trying to. So, so basically what is claimed here. And Jeffrey Epstein had a lot of relationships within.
Lise Merle
I can't read this on.
Sheila Gunn
No, do it, please.
Lise Merle
Do some of it. I have to skip over. But yeah, he had a lot and he was very. He wanted to make like a super race.
Sheila Gunn
Hey, guys, screen cap this and read this later. Okay.
Lise Merle
This is. Sheila can't read all of this on TV because we said some untoward things. Yesterday. So I'm going to be. Try to be careful. He very simple. I will compare male to female with female to male. With greater molecular control over development. We are increasingly capable of producing novel phenotypes. More feminine men by blocking testosterone receptors or castration. Really? Really. And at the same time increasing estrogen production. The one I guess, blocks male features. The second encourages female features. More masculine women. Heavy testosterone dosage, incredible external effects. Heavily bearded men. You would never guess they had a female bone in their body, except their bones are actually female. If they die and you dig them up, that's how you tell first kind. Male. Female is four times more frequent than female to male. The first is attractive. Okay, I'm going to stop here. You can read this yourself.
Sheila Gunn
Just go a little bit down to that highlight. There's a high highlighted part. There we go.
Lise Merle
Olivia.
Sheila Gunn
Yeah, yeah.
Lise Merle
By the way, you can read this. Yeah.
Sheila Gunn
We are now pushing the intervention earlier. So you notice your 3 year old son has trans tendencies. So now you intervene with hormones. I would be frightened to do that, but who knows?
Lise Merle
But we do know.
Sheila Gunn
We do know. This entire, this entire operation is driven from the top down. It was funded by Fortune 500 companies. It, it was forced upon the public as a way. And children were included to validate the extreme fetishes of a very, very small group of men. This entire movement was born out of forums for men that fetishized about castration mutilations.
Lise Merle
The seeds were planted. The seeds were planted from way above. And we were our children. Not our children, but our. As a society like the royal. We. The children, the children were just their social experiment in their own perversion. And they, they literally don't care what. As long as their perverted needs are met. They don't care how many kids kill themselves along the way. How many parents are devastated.
Sheila Gunn
I mean, it's how many, how many, how many families have been really upended and, and thrown into chaos over this issue? This is, this is what Tamara Kronos is defending. Yeah, this is at the heart of it. This is what Tamara Cronus is defending. Yes. Is the fetishization of children.
Lise Merle
This is a deeply sinister, biblically evil thing. And it. They put it in emails. They put it in emails. Like I think we all sort of knew, like if you really genuinely thought about this, you all sort of knew that this had to come from somewhere. This just didn't happen on its own. For the first time in human history. Like you had to, you had to have known that this was grown and percolated in some petri dish somewhere.
Sheila Gunn
Where.
Lise Merle
Now we're seeing. Now we're seeing.
Sheila Gunn
It came. It. It did come out of academia. It did come out of psychology. It did come out of the. The top down funding that. That people. People like you and I weren't even aware of until it was so overarching, you couldn't avoid it. Yeah, but this is definitely not something that is. That is good, you know, that. That children are just discovering, you know, that they're born in the wrong body. They were told that they were lied to and we have to roll it back.
Lise Merle
It was like an infection that was released by these weirdos into the world.
Sheila Gunn
It was. It was a social contagion. Like the statistics actually back that up.
Lise Merle
Sure. Now we're seeing that. We're on the downside of it.
Sheila Gunn
Well, let's help. Let's help that.
Lise Merle
I believe so. Despite what we saw over the weekend, I truly believe so. But as I frequently say, moloch always gets his babies right. Like, this is a deeply perverse biblical evil. You know, with a. Every generation, there's always people willing to serve their children up on the altar of moloch. And this is it. This is it, man.
Sheila Gunn
Not me.
Lise Merle
Not me. Not me. All right, on that grim note, let's move ahead to alberta, USA stuff. Things we didn't get to as much as we wanted to yesterday because we were so occupied by that. The one vote at the conservative party convention that didn't pass. Okay, the business leaders are in alberta. And when we say business leaders, we don't mean your small business. Who knows that a free and prosperous, prosperous alberta with lower taxes would be good for you and your small business and your welding company and your small oil field services company or your mom and pop restaurant. They don't mean you. They mean big business with ties to liberals.
Sheila Gunn
Yeah, they mean the. They mean the. The businesses that attend big, swanky galas take selfies with liberals. That's who they mean.
Lise Merle
So. And this is according to the edmonton chamber of commerce, who I don't want to hear from because they didn't say anything when businesses were closed during COVID So I don't want. I don't want to hear from you people ever again.
Sheila Gunn
You.
Lise Merle
You showed yourself. I was going to say something a little bit more colorful during COVID about how you actually care about businesses. You didn't actually lobby for businesses to be reopened. You lobbied for more money from the government to keep them closed while people lost everything and their jobs, too. So they say the separatist Math doesn't add up, warns Edmonton business leaders. Don't care. An independent Alberta would start off $60 billion in debt and take decades to recover economically. Says Edmonton Chamber of Commerce. Absolutely not. They say if Alberta separates and accepts US President Donald Trump's offer of a line of credit, then the new country I like, I just like seeing that in writing. The new country will be starting off $600 billion in debt. Take back. Who cares? They're issuing a stark warning and says it's already driven away investment in Alberta and the province. I'm. I absolutely do not believe that to be true.
Sheila Gunn
Absolutely not.
Lise Merle
But this is Project Fear. For those of you who don't know. Project Fear was a campaign driven by the federalists in the last days and months before the Quebec referendum and it was to scare people about outward flight of business and a brain drain and wildly fluctuating interest rates and basically becoming uninsurable. If Quebec were to separate now, that could have been, at least in part, some ways true in Quebec, but it's definitely not the case here. We're in a better financial state, we have better trade relations with the Americans. We have something they need.
Sheila Gunn
That's right.
Lise Merle
And a lot of it. And our own federal government won't let us produce it. Imagine if we were not bound by the federal emissions targets and we could ramp up coal fired electricity and drill, baby drill and build export pipelines and, and strike trade deals without having to go through the idiots in Ottawa. You really think that we would have be in a crippling financial state? Really? Absolutely not.
Sheila Gunn
Yep. Same goes for Saskatchewan. We have all the food, we have all the fuel and we have all the fertilizer. So what, what exactly are we doing here? What they're doing is they're scaremongering and they're not giving Albertans or Westerners, the independence minded Westerners, the benefit of the doubt that we would be able to find a way. What they're operating from is, is. Is. Is within the idea of the constraints of Canada. Let us loose, unshackle us from the burden of the dying star of the nation of Canada and watch us go. Watch us go.
Lise Merle
Yeah, it's. They say if Alberta does move to a separate state, it's going to take decades for people to come back to seeing Alberta as a great place to invest. If you look at Scotland or Quebec, sure there's a lot of different examples where a separatist movement had massive impacts on the economy. Except we are not doing this for cultural reasons. I mean, we are doing it for cultural reasons. But we are doing this for economic reasons. Right. Because we don't see an economic future or where we are allowed to attract investment as long as we stay in canada, where we have some of the most onerous business restrictions, Especially on natural resource development on the entire face of the earth.
Sheila Gunn
And we're thinking what kind of place we want for our great, great, great grandchildren.
Lise Merle
Right?
Sheila Gunn
Do we want. Do we want them to still be fighting the battle that we're talking about today? We. Or do we want a clean break of it and give them a chance at success? This is what we're pondering, and that's. I. I don't think that the edmonton chamber of commerce is quite tapped into that yet.
Lise Merle
Yeah, these are the guys who are perfectly fine with the temporary foreign worker program Artificially depressing wages in this country and unemploying an entire generation of youth. I don't want to hear from them. Like, I don't want to hear from them. You. You're fine with indentured servitude. We're not going to do that in the new country. When. When I'm the christy gnome of the new country. When.
Sheila Gunn
When we actually get to get a. Get a say in who moves here. Yeah.
Lise Merle
No, No. I don't want to hear from these people. I don't care. You guys are the pushers of the temporary foreign worker program, so thank you. No, thank you. You were fine when our businesses were closed during COVID and people lost their jobs, their houses, their family, everything. Don't want to hear from you. Zip it. Zip it. Also, don't compare us to quebec and. And scotland. We've got something they don't have, and that's quite literally everything else. Right?
Sheila Gunn
Like, everything.
Lise Merle
Anyway, now I love Marco navini at the haltane institute.
Sheila Gunn
Oh, me, too. Oh, just a.
Lise Merle
If you're not following his substack, you must. He does. He's done some great work on debunking the myth of, oh, you're gonna be landlocked. And he, like, draws on other places in the world where states became independent and were able to get access to markets. And one of the places that he routinely points to is kazakhstan. Why is that important? Landlocked and oil rich. And they have figured it out.
Sheila Gunn
They made a way. They made. They negotiated. They negotiated. They got a good deal, and they're doing okay. And that's going to be the same for the west.
Lise Merle
So I guess we're gonna. He points out a video, and this is what he says. Marco says, this Video embodies the condescending progressive Laurentian attitude towards Albertons. And then we're going to watch this together. But don't scroll down. I want everybody. We'll, we'll do the reveal together because the person looks exactly the way you think. Okay. You're not going to be surprised at all by this Justin Bieber looking woman. It features an Ontario teacher mocking our premier and Albertans for wanting to secede from Canada but allegedly not knowing what secession means. The teacher is wrong on every one of her seven points but is hardly, it is hardly worth refuting them individually until you notice that she cannot even spell the key world word she's pontificating about. Alberta separation. Ontario education for the win. So let's hear from lady Justin Bieber, shall we? Together. Okay.
Ontario Teacher (Lady Justin Bieber)
So Danielle Smith, premier of Alberta, is leading about 275 Albertans to think that separation from Canada is really a plausible idea. Time to get the board. If Smith would just sit in on my grade eight class, all of this would actually be easier for her to understand.
Lise Merle
There we go. Ignore the glare.
Sheila Gunn
It's gonna work out.
Ontario Teacher (Lady Justin Bieber)
Don't worry. Don't worry. It's new, but I like the picture in picture thing we got going on here. Stand by for the markers.
Lise Merle
I'm already.
Ontario Teacher (Lady Justin Bieber)
This could be messy. Nobody really knows Alberta separation. Oh, that's pretty. Come a little bit closer so you can get a front row seat.
Lise Merle
I'm gonna give this little band of.
Ontario Teacher (Lady Justin Bieber)
Potato men trying to make deals with down south seven legitimate stuff. Significant reasons why secession is a bad idea. Oh, can somebody explain to them what secession means?
Lise Merle
I don't have time.
Ontario Teacher (Lady Justin Bieber)
Number one, economic devastation.
Lise Merle
Capital will leave.
Ontario Teacher (Lady Justin Bieber)
Corporations will leave. People will leave.
Sheila Gunn
We're going to be rich. Devastating.
Ontario Teacher (Lady Justin Bieber)
Wildest dreams and in all fairness, collapse your housing market.
Lise Merle
Is that what you're looking for?
Sheila Gunn
Okay.
Ontario Teacher (Lady Justin Bieber)
Oh, you think taxes are bad? You're going to try the whole tariff thing as well.
Lise Merle
Are you gonna explain to the people.
Sheila Gunn
And still them paying the tax?
Ontario Teacher (Lady Justin Bieber)
Number two, land locked.
Lise Merle
Oh God.
Sheila Gunn
This person influences kids as a land law.
Ontario Teacher (Lady Justin Bieber)
Newly independent Alberta, you're gonna lose guaranteed access to pipelines and Tidewaters instantaneously.
Lise Merle
We don't have Tidewater pipelines rest of.
Ontario Teacher (Lady Justin Bieber)
Canada to pick up the slack and make you guys economically solvent. Interesting. Or were you gonna rely on the potato down south to swallow and rescue you?
Lise Merle
Enough.
Sheila Gunn
Enough. Like, honest to God, I can't say this is. This is exactly the reason why I want to leave. Yeah, I want to leave because of people like this.
Lise Merle
Yes. Yes.
Sheila Gunn
Poster child for see you later. Oh look, she can't even. It's so funny. Like when she didn't have spell check. Me and my bride Acre. I. I am the leader of a bunch grade 8 activists in Ontario. No, they can't spell. No, they can't do math. But they will be activists.
Lise Merle
I just want to. Olivia, I'm going to drop this in here because our friend Peter McCaffrey at the Alberta Institute did a pretty good job of debunking some of this. I'm too annoyed by the condescending nonsense of this teacher that can't even spell separation. Talking down to our premier who is. Look you, you can say a lot of things about Premier Smith if you're on the left. You might not like her policies and stuff, but that is one sharp cookie. That woman can rattle off numbers like nobody's business. Like she's the Premier, but she's got her thumb on every single portfolio out there. You can talk to her about youth unemployment numbers. She doesn't just know youth unemployment numbers in Alberta. She knows where Alberta sits across the board with relation to the other promise provinces.
Sheila Gunn
She's extraordinarily engaged.
Lise Merle
It's so smart. Like you can ask her about a specific project and like an obscure project like you could ask her about. And I realize Coral Lake is not obscure if you're from the industry, but that's. If you're from the industry, she will rattle off numbers out of whatever project you're talking about, you know, and, and she's so smart on this stuff. So to say that she doesn't understand when you can't spell separation, that's quite something. This is one heck of a self own actually when you think about it. Like that teacher lady, Justin Bieber, grade.
Sheila Gunn
A teacher, detention, extra tutoring.
Lise Merle
She watched that video, edited it slightly, you know, because you can see there's jump cuts and stuff and thought post in this banger Unlearn. Indeed.
Sheila Gunn
This, the Unlearn the Unlearn label tells me everything I need to know. Like, like that's a, that's a, a kind of study that promotes the anti colonialism, the climate change, the you know, across the board. This is, this is what unlearning means.
Lise Merle
Right? But these are also the sorts of people who don't have children of their own through self sterilization or because they see kids as a plague upon the face of the earth causing climate change, whatever. So in a couple generations these people are indeed a self fixing problem. So that's the moral of the story here. But because they don't have children of their own. Okay, so look, Lisa and I, between the two of us, have nine children.
Sheila Gunn
Yes.
Lise Merle
That's how we are going to change the culture. We. We will pass along our values to our children. That's how it should be. But this person, like a zombie or a vampire, has to bite your children and infect them with their bad ideas because they don't. They won't do the selfless thing of actually having their own children. But anyways, getting back to the point, Peter McCaffrey. He says literally every single point of this lesson from someone who is apparently a real teacher is factually wrong. Separation is spelled wrong. There's no reason for businesses and capital to flee a wealthy province. Businesses fled Quebec because Quebec separation would have meant Quebec getting poorer from not receiving subsidies anymore. Bingo. An independent Alberta would need permission to transport things across from. From the exact same people and governments it currently needs permission from. It would need permission from only the US instead of the US and Canada to transport things south. Excellent point. And they want market access to our product. It's. It's in their strategic interests to have access to Alberta oil. Which is why we'll never have to worry about anybody invading us or harming us. Look what they did for Kuwait. Oceans away. And they're like, nope, that's a strategic asset. We can't have Hussein meddling in that. You think someone's going to look at us wrong? Someone's going to scowl at us wrong. And they're going to get black bagged into a blackhawk. Anyway. Let's keep going. Some things have fixed costs. That's true. But the savings on things with variable costs would outweigh this. Albertans currently pay for all of these things already. The federal government just acts as a middleman and takes a cut which spends in other provinces. Bingo. Bingo. Indigenous rights would stay exactly the same as they are now. Now, yeah. We might even actually meet the obligations under the treaties. You might get clean water and drug treatment on reserve.
Sheila Gunn
I do believe the quality of life for first nations people would drastically improve without the federal government of Canada getting involved.
Lise Merle
Also. We already do these things. The feds wouldn't build out drug treatment beds on reserve. It is their responsibility. They failed to. Indigenous people are dying of opioids. And you know who stepped in to help? The provincial government. Because the Feds wouldn't. So you. We'll take it from here. Thanks.
Sheila Gunn
Sure.
Lise Merle
Alberta is entitled to our share of the CPP funds. Pensions are provincial jurisdiction in the constitution. And the Formula is clear no matter how many times you lie about it. Also, we paid into those pensions as Canadians. Even if we are no longer Canadian, we still paid into those. It's like people retiring to Arizona. They still.
Sheila Gunn
Exactly. This is such a silly argument because we know that there are Canadian expats that are living clear across the world. Okay. In. In every country across the world. And guess what happens to their pensions? They get deposited into their bank accounts no matter where they're living. And the same will go for the people of Alberta. Your pensions aren't going anywhere.
Lise Merle
Yes, Alberta's oil exports are greater than all of Quebec's exports. Not just Quebec's oil exports, all of Quebec's export. So our one sector export outweighs the entire export economy of Quebec. So again, that's not potash. That's not natural gas. That's not food. That's not lumber. That's not all the other things that we do.
Sheila Gunn
No.
Lise Merle
No one pipeline is worth more in GDP than Ontario's entire auto sector. But like, just digest that for a second and look what they are doing to protect the auto sector. One pipeline is worth more than that and they won't let us build one.
Sheila Gunn
Unreal.
Lise Merle
And then Peter goes on to say, if this is what they're teaching people in the rest of Canada, no wonder they have no idea what's happening in the real world. Bingo. No wonder they don't understand why we want to leave. Like, this is. These are the people that are being called in as experts.
Sheila Gunn
Well, and. And it just goes to show how different we are. Like, we don't identify as whatever that is. We don't identify as whatever that is. We have different ambitions. We want to do big things. And as long as we're shackled to Canada, we're never going to be able to do them.
Lise Merle
Look, and I. I'm going to be slightly unkind here, but. And I. I'll preface this by saying, once again, as I always say, I'm not winning any beauty pageants, but this person has some real sallow skin. Like we're not eating enough to fuel our brain. Like, we're not. There's something wrong here. Like that. Those eyes are wild. Those are crazy eyes. Crazy, crazy eyes. Anyway, look, just. No, this is sallow skin.
Sheila Gunn
This is a person that I would cross the street if I was walking towards them.
Lise Merle
Oh, to avoid completely. Yeah.
Sheila Gunn
100. Yeah. No. Frightening.
Lise Merle
Imagine leaving your kids with that person.
Sheila Gunn
For seven hours a day for a whole entire year. This is the reality of Canadian parents. You guys oh, like let's just bring this up. This is not a one off teacher. This is not a one off teacher. This is what Canadian parents are fighting in the public school system tooth and nail. Yeah.
Lise Merle
Okay, let's go to Jean Kren. They dusted off that old fossil to criticize Alberta. Stuff him back in his sarcophagus unless you're going to give him a hard time about residential schools, okay? Because he was the last guy who signed off on them. We got to listen to these jerks like that chronic house flipper Talib Nur Muhammad say that we're the Conservatives are denying a genocide. I believe Jean Kren is still alive. Apparently. We've got proof of life here. Go bother him about residential schools. I don't need to hear from him about Western separation, okay?
Sheila Gunn
Oh.
Lise Merle
Is he alive? I don't know.
Jean Crèchen
At this moment, our friend from the south has created a mood that a Canadian have never been so proud to be Canadian. You know, in my province of Quebec, it's still the same thing today. You know, the desire to have a referendum is very low in Quebec. Don't know what the hell is going on in Alberta, but I have to go there. I have 500 cousins.
Lise Merle
I, I didn't sign the petition.
Jean Crèchen
Any Tories did, I'm told not. Anyway, we have been fun. I will remain united. Don't worry.
Sheila Gunn
That was like Kent at Bernie's.
Lise Merle
So. He, you know, I said, he's still alive, but then I saw him and I'm like, I'm not so sure. Yeah, the reanimated corpse of Jean Cran can go back into its crypt for a while.
Sheila Gunn
It's weird how they could digitally remove those marionette strings, you know, in post production. My goodness. What? They can't.
Lise Merle
I don't know what the hell is. I don't know what the hell is going on in Alberta. I actually think he doesn't know what the hell is going on. A lot of times maybe, but that.
Sheila Gunn
Would mean for the past 30 years.
Lise Merle
Like, I don't, I don't want to hear from him on Western separation. Like, I just, you know.
Sheila Gunn
No, and you know, what I don't, I don't appreciate is like the standard old guard coming out to Rah Rah United Canada when, if, if you spent any time in Alberta or, or Saskatchewan and talked to anybody that lived here, the idea of independence is, is the first thing on our mind.
Lise Merle
The amount of people who wanted to talk about Western separation at that Conservative Party convention, like every single Western conservative and plenty of them who Weren't Western. Who said. I get it, you guys, I get it. And. And surprising from surprising places, but also, when you think about it, not surprising.
Sheila Gunn
Yes, Agreed. I was. I was. I. I noted just sort of just this morning, that the difference from the locals that were in attendance that Conservative convention and the people that were coming from far away were completely different. The topics of conversation. If you were from the west, you were talking about independence. If you were from far away, you were.
Lise Merle
You were.
Sheila Gunn
Talking about other things.
Lise Merle
Yeah, let's wrap that up. We'll hit an ad break, and then we'll go back to Liberals failing upward and yes, a couple of other things. Also the horrible state of the jail and bail system. And, oh, my cringe. I dug up the cringe.
Sheila Gunn
Is it? I can't wait.
Lise Merle
Good, because I'll. I just want you. Anyways, we'll talk about it. Let's hit an ad break. We'll come back on the other side. Gun bans make great distractions. Trudeau may be gone, but Carney has picked up his sane rhetoric. We will quickly, and I mean quickly, reinvigorate the buyback of hunters. Collectors, competitors and defenders of tradition are still being targeted while criminals run wild under liberal policy.
Sheila Gunn
But we are fighting back.
Lise Merle
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Sheila Gunn
Sam.
Lise Merle
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Sheila Gunn
So, and this is the appointment. The appointment of the High Commissioner for Canada in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is a plum position that the Liberal Party of Canada reserves for their most loyal foot soldiers. So Bill Blair is replacing Liberal Ralph Goodale. He's from Regina, Saskatchewan, my hometown. Ralph was in that role for the past several years. Didn't amount to a hill of beans. All I said, listen, I've heard nothing about what Ralph Goodale has done there except for his, his, his retirement, his retirement announcement. And you know what?
Lise Merle
I think that's the best, I think that's the best outcome when dealing with Ralph Goodale in charge of anything is if you don't hear about what he's doing, then he's not screwing it up. Because I remember when he was AG.
Sheila Gunn
Minister, it was, he, he did sort of like, he tried to do a cutesy video, like a goodbye video, answering questions from people. And it, it came off as so, it came off as so shallow and so vapid and like, like, I don't get me wrong, I'm. That Bill Blair is going to be a real long way away from Canada. You know what I mean? Like, let him go abuse some other nation's citizens. But, but, but still, that this is, this is the level of adoration that they will dump upon their loyal followers is crazy. I mean, this is, this, this guy should, should not be getting a plum position in Europe because of what he did to everyday regular Canadians.
Lise Merle
It's, he should be resigning. He should be resigning in disgrace. Over his role in the illegal invocation of the Emergencies Act. He should be resigning in disgrace for failing to protect us from foreign interference in at least the last two, maybe three elections. Yeah, it is three actually because we know what happened to Joe Tay. So it is three. He should be unable to show his face anywhere in this country and he should be hiding at home spending his golden years watching reruns of the Price is Right. He shouldn't be taking well paid patronage appointments where he's gonna go to the UK and pull the old Tom Clark and say this, you want me to stay in this multi million dollar dump. I will not bring me an $800 coffee machine.
Sheila Gunn
Like I have standards for my chalets and castles. Thank you very much Garcon Gar. I will be. I will be having the caviar for lunch.
Lise Merle
Exactly. Exactly.
Sheila Gunn
Kind of. This is a. Kind of. This is the kind of lifestyle that he is stepping into. Into this role. It is a gold plated lifestyle. It is being paid for by the Canadian public. Remember next time you have to step over a homeless person to go pay your taxes it that. That you are actually paying for. Bill Blair to have the most extraordinary, extraordinarily luxurious experience available to any person in the country. Like this is how they reward themselves.
Lise Merle
The man is the definition of old codger. You know. You think he's going to go over there with any sort of enthusiasm to do any work? I saw him during the Public Order Emergencies Commission tell and he looked like the. Like he had no business even continuing to have a day job. Like he just didn't look well or with it. And now he's going to be representing Canada in the UK and these Liberals. I'm telling you, I'm not making this up. Tom Clark moved into a Park Avenue penthouse and Tom Clark was the guy that asked Justin Trudeau what sort of shampoo you use when he was working with ctv. That was his big tough question. He got that gig, that patronage appointment. He was like this is not nice enough for me. So they, they went and bought him another more expensive condo to apartment whatever and fully furnished. It upgraded it and then failed to sell the other one. So then the Canadian government ended up with two residents for the, you know, official envoy to New York.
Sheila Gunn
This is.
Lise Merle
You're gonna pull this again?
Sheila Gunn
Yes. In the place that has some of the most.
Lise Merle
The most.
Sheila Gunn
The. The highest real estate. Real estate prices on planet Earth. And we were carrying this guy because the.
Lise Merle
Yeah.
Sheila Gunn
With two apartments, not just one, two. Remember that next time you take your yearly Annual two week vacation in your mother in law's basement because you can't.
Lise Merle
Afford to do anything else when what's his face? I forget his name. The guy who lectured people about taking road trips. Remember that when he gives you a hard time about taking a road trip in the used magic wagon. Okay.
Sheila Gunn
Was it Mark Miller?
Lise Merle
No. No. Who was it?
Sheila Gunn
It was. Wait, no. Oh, they're interchangeable. In my head I just.
Lise Merle
They're all idiots.
Sheila Gunn
Like in my head they're just paper dolls that I switched ahead off on. You know what I mean? Yes, I know. I can picture them in my head, but why can't I? Controversy.
Lise Merle
Mark Garrettson. No, the Garretson, was it. I don't know. They're all prone to idiocy.
Sheila Gunn
So it's like, put it in the chat.
Lise Merle
Yeah.
Sheila Gunn
If you know, please help. Help us. Help your sisters out. Put it in the chat. Who is the guy that crap talked.
Lise Merle
To road trips, Right. When that's all anybody can do. Like, like that's all we can do. That's all we can afford. Thanks. No, it wasn't Sean Fraser. No.
Sheila Gunn
Why can we not remember it again?
Lise Merle
It's because, like, interchangeable idiots. The only, only thing that makes Christy Freeland different than them is that she's a woman and she cackles. But they all say the same dumb stuff.
Sheila Gunn
Well, sometimes in my paper doll brain. In my brain with paper dolls, I put Christopher Elin's dress with. With a different, like a male head on it, just for fun. Like that.
Lise Merle
Same damn dress in different.
Sheila Gunn
The red one.
Lise Merle
Red, white. She even has it in purple. Yeah, it didn't look good in red. Don't get it in white.
Sheila Gunn
Yeah, with a boat neck. We all know the one.
Lise Merle
That boat neck hits her arm in the wrong places. It's hit her on the thigh in the wrong place.
Sheila Gunn
The chest is all wrong. It's all bunchy. Like it's all Frenchy up in here.
Lise Merle
Yeah, dress for your body type. You know you can do that.
Sheila Gunn
It would be a troll for her, like Moss.
Lise Merle
Do we have that? I can't see it now. It looks like it's been taken down. The crack dealer. The judge grants leniency for Toronto crack dealer because of his nine children in his race. Olivia, do we have that article? What? Looks like it. Okay, let me pop it open. Oh, I see it. Okay, thank you. Maybe we can put this up. Judge Grants this in the National Post today. Judge grants leniency for Toronto crack dealer because of his nine children and his race. This is. This Has Bill Blair's fingers on it though. This is Bill Blair's fingers, right?
Sheila Gunn
He couldn't. Lloyd Williams couldn't prove his Micmac ancestry, but the judge was satisfied he'd established connection to indigenous ancestry.
Lise Merle
He just said he was. And the judge is like, well, good enough, good enough. In my courtroom.
Sheila Gunn
I'm indigenous to Saskatchewan, okay? I'm an indigenous Saski.
Lise Merle
A Toronto crack dealer.
Sheila Gunn
Insane.
Lise Merle
Caught back in business three times over the course of 10 months. I thought it was going to say 10 years. Managed to convince a judge that he deserves some leniency because putting him behind bars would mean hardship for his nine children.
Sheila Gunn
How many baby mamas are there?
Lise Merle
Also I want to know how much child support this loser's paying because I guarantee you it's zero.
Sheila Gunn
Be honest.
Lise Merle
What are they basing it off? His income? He's a crack dealer. You think he's reporting that to the cra? My God. Lloyd Williams pleaded guilty in Ontario's court of justice to three counts of possession of cocaine for the purposes of trafficking. In what justice. Andre Chamberlain. Remember that name. Described as the deeply troubled neighborhood surrounding the intersection at Dundas and Shelbourn for streets for rest from March 3, 2024, October 25, 2024 and January 4, 2025. This guy was on a tear. Williams, this gets better. Williams, who was released after each arrest. Of course he was twice on bail and a third time on the promise he wear a GPS tracking device. Also pleaded guilty to one count of possession of proceeds of crime over $5,000. Oh, he's probably going to pay the baby mamas and two counts for under that amount. And failing to comply with the release order on February 5, 2025. The Crown wanted six and a half years. That still seems low. William's lawyer argued for two years less a day in jail. So he is going to like provincial jail and not. Oh, Nigel Clink.
Sheila Gunn
Two stepchildren and seven biological.
Lise Merle
The young 10 months old, nine year.
Sheila Gunn
Old twins, two 10 year olds. Okay, so this is. Oh, there are more than one baby mama.
Lise Merle
There's multiple baby mamas. This guy ain't paying child support for them.
Sheila Gunn
Oh my word. Oh, you guys provide support as a father to his children and that any length absence would be. Listen, this is. Wow, this is just. Well and, and talking about, you know, his neighborhood, you can, you could just claim that, that because you, you come from a bad neighborhood. That, that this should sort of absolve you from the crimes that you commit in it. What William, he. He identifies as. Oh you guys, this Makes sense, actually, because, look, he qualifies as 2. 2. Two checkboxes on the hierarchy of oppression. He checkboxes both the black and the First Nations.
Lise Merle
Though he couldn't prove the latter, the judge was satisfied Williams had established a connection to indigenous ancestry. Oh, so they're just taking him at his word. He's a repeat crackhead drug dealer. Baby mamas all over hell went on such a crime free that he was arrested three times over 10 months. So again, that's just what they're catching him for, because he was doing it every single day. Released, breach, conditions, failed to comply, proceeds of crime. And the judge is like, you know what, fella? I like the cut of your jib. I'll take your word for it.
Sheila Gunn
This your.
Lise Merle
You.
Sheila Gunn
Your circumstance. Circumstance must be. Must be related to intergenerational trauma.
Lise Merle
That's what they said.
Sheila Gunn
It is.
Lise Merle
This is from the judge's ruling. It is not unusual for indigenous people who have struggled under the yoke of colonialism in this country and its intergenerational impact to have lost connections to their roots and community.
Sheila Gunn
Okay.
Lise Merle
And then they go on to say, further markers of the effects of intern intergenerational trauma, including poverty, familial addiction, struggles with education and mental health, and overrepresentation in the criminal justice and child welfare system, are often present when identity. Indigenous identity is confirmed. Okay, but it wasn't confirmed. Right, like we should start there. It wasn't. It was just claimed. It wasn't confirmed. He's probably Buffy Saint Marie, the judge here. I was just gonna say the reason people are addicted. This is the whole. That's driving me crazy.
Sheila Gunn
But we're learning. We're learning a real lesson in this, in that it is if you are ever, ever having to defend yourself, that's the first thing you should say, is claim your indigeneity. Okay. I'm an indigenous Saski. That's where I'm starting with my defense. Because we see that, oh, he's diagnosed with epilepsy at age 3 and continues to have seizures. Okay? So the safest thing for the community and this man's actual children would be for him to be behind bars. A separation between him and any influence over the community or over his own children.
Lise Merle
Okay.
Sheila Gunn
I am sure all of the baby mamas were absolutely shattered when they learned that he would be let out right away. I think probably looked at these arrests and went, thank God he's going to get thrown in, you know, thrown in the slammer for a couple months. Give them a little bit Of a break, but not here in Canada. No, sir.
Lise Merle
What's driving me crazy about this story? Besides the fact that you could just roll up and be like, I'm indigenous, trust me. And you have a history of crimes of moral turpitude and lying to judges to get out of trouble. And the judge is like, I got you, bro. Yeah, Indigenous as the day is long. But he gets credit for being a victim of the things that he has own behavior is doing to the community. Right. Like you're doing that. The phone call, good sir, is coming from inside the house.
Sheila Gunn
Yes.
Lise Merle
Intergenerational trauma. He's inflicting that on his kids right now by being just plague upon the community. Crackhead. Right. Poverty. You're not taking care of them kids.
Sheila Gunn
He's causing absolute chaos in other families in the community that he was. Exactly, exactly.
Lise Merle
He's causing intergenerational trauma on his kid.
Sheila Gunn
Imagine the ripples. Imagine the ripples of chaos coming out of this guy alone. Imagine that going in from his family outward into the community. Nine traumatized kids and all their. All their baby mamas and then all of the people that he's supplying with with drugs, like just wild destruction. And yet this is a guy that. That our justice system in Canada says, yeah, no, no, you can go. You. You can. You get a jet get out of jail free card.
Lise Merle
Yeah. Like, the judge points to familial addiction. This guy's probably getting entire families addicted.
Sheila Gunn
That's right.
Lise Merle
That I can't get over how the judge is giving him credit for the thing. Like, he's the victim. No, he's the perpetrator. And certainly he's doing those things.
Sheila Gunn
Certainly after three arrests, he would be aware that what he was doing was illegal and wrong and he had an opportunity to go do something else. Yeah, he could have gotten.
Lise Merle
Yeah. A lot of opportunity to get right with the Lord there, and he never did. The judge said Williams deserves consideration for the reduced moral blameworthiness associated with these challenges. We. This is why we want to go. This stuff just like this. This guy should be under the jail. Instead, the judge is like, you know what? Right on the old wrist.
Sheila Gunn
Pretend it hurts. Say owie.
Lise Merle
Ow. Yeah. Ouch. Ridiculous.
Sheila Gunn
I learned my lesson.
Lise Merle
I'm so sorry. Let's go into this other story, please. This is my story from yesterday. The liberals said asylum hotels would end. Do you remember? Do you remember that? They're like, we're not doing that anymore. We closed the floodgates. So I got my hands on some documents that show that not only Were they not trying to end the asylum hotels? They were trying to expand them in cooperation with the Red Cross and another group. They were trying to institutionalize them.
Sheila Gunn
Interesting.
Lise Merle
So just more liberalized.
Sheila Gunn
So add. Add the hospitality industry into the great number of. Of sectors in Canada that the government is upholding with. With. With funding. It never stops from COVID Do you remember when they. When they took over the. The hot. Excuse me.
Lise Merle
The hospitals.
Sheila Gunn
The hotels in Covid held people, you know, against their will. In co. That never, ever stopped. They pivoted from having Covid hotels to having refugee hotels.
Lise Merle
This is a hospitality industry bailout to the two star hotels of the greater Toronto area. It totally is, like. And what a joke those Covid jails were. I don't know if you remember, but we convinced Kean Bexty to leave the country and then come back into the country so that he would have to be forced. Well, we said, just go willingly. And give us an update from the inside.
Sheila Gunn
Yes.
Lise Merle
Of the COVID hotels. And you would think that there would be. These would be, like, isolated hotels that you would. Because Covid's so deadly. You have to go into the COVID hotel. You can't just go to the general public.
Sheila Gunn
Sorry, I have to sneeze. I'm sorry.
Lise Merle
Okay, we'll take Lisa. She's got a sneeze. But they. These hotels, they. What they did was they only dedicated, like, one floor to the COVID jail, and the other floors were like, regular people in town for whatever. So floors one and two and four were just regular travelers. And floor number three was for the COVID jail. So you just. Everybody would pass each other in the lobby.
Sheila Gunn
Yeah, yeah.
Lise Merle
Taking the same elevator, using the same garbage cans, like, swimming in the same pool. Like, it's just the stupidest thing, which is the biggest scam.
Sheila Gunn
But I, I. Well, I just want you to know that if you want to send me to a hotel for two weeks, like, if Rebel News wants to send me to a hotel for two weeks to just, like, report on the things that we're reading here, I'd be happy to.
Lise Merle
Be like, I'm not sending you to a. An asylum hotel, Sheila.
Sheila Gunn
You forget that I. I sleep in. I sleep in worse places than that.
Lise Merle
No, that's not true.
Sheila Gunn
That's not true. I have perfectly, greatly luxurious, safe accommodations. Yeah, you do. But I have slept in worse places.
Lise Merle
What really interested me about these documents that I got was that they were planning a welcome hub at Toronto Pearson to welcome the asylum claimant. So remember when Justin Trudeau Said, oh, we're closing Rocksham Road. But they didn't close Roxham Road. What they did was they allowed people to make asylum claims at Pearson instead. So they didn't have to sneak across, they could just fly in. And then they were planning a welcome hub at Pearson. Like none of us would have noticed. A welcome hub for asylum seekers at Canada's busiest airport.
Sheila Gunn
Sheila, let us, let us do tell the people what Pearson International Airport looks like. The last time we were there, like it was so staggering. It looks like any airport in a third world country. This is what Pearson, like this does not look. It just feels like you teleport to another entire foreign land and that's, that's Canada's busiest airport.
Lise Merle
I, maybe that's a symptom of Toronto, I don't know. But I, you know, you go there and you're like, this could be anywhere in the world except Canada.
Sheila Gunn
Yeah, it's, it's really quite staggering.
Lise Merle
We've got. I don't know what I want to do.
Sheila Gunn
We're over time comments in the cringe.
Lise Merle
Okay, one more thing. This, this was very busy on X yesterday. Tamara Ualini wrote it up because this is definitely her beat. Health Canada is withholding the COVID vaccine injury files for 15 years. An order paper response confirms millions of pages on vaccine and adverse drug reactions are sealed until the 2000-40s. Echoing the US FDA's attempt to hide this is previous attempt to hide Pfizer's trial data for 75 years.
Sheila Gunn
You surprised, are you surprised that they're trying to cover their tracks?
Lise Merle
Wonder what they're hiding.
Sheila Gunn
Wonder if they're safe and effective. A 15 year hiatus on the release of documents is almost unheard of. Truly almost unheard of.
Lise Merle
Yeah.
Sheila Gunn
And if you, if, if they had any contrition or if they had any care for the people that were negatively impacted by this, they wouldn't have done this. But they're, I mean they're not, they don't care. They don't care why. They don't care why people died.
Lise Merle
They don't care or are injured, their hearts are damaged.
Sheila Gunn
Sure.
Lise Merle
After people. And I look, I don't begrudge anybody who took the vaccine. People took it against loneliness, people took it against unemployment.
Sheila Gunn
I took, but I took it.
Lise Merle
So I were injured. Blood.
Sheila Gunn
Yeah. Instantaneously. Yeah.
Lise Merle
So I don't begrudge anybody for that. But I do have a lot of ire for the government that made it so that people had to make that impossible choice. It's hideous. And now they're going to hide their culpability in damaging millions of people for 15 years. Ridiculous. This should. I hope this is being appealed to the Information Commissioner. There's no reason why these files should be hidden.
Sheila Gunn
It's got to be. There's got to be. There should be no secrets between the government and the citizens. There should be no secrets like this when. Especially when the citizens were so terribly, profoundly impacted by. I mean, a multitude. A multitude of different. Sort of. A multitude of different reasons because of this whole event. Yeah, it's. It's. It's sort of unforgivable. And it says a lot about how transparent and accountable this. This government is willing to be.
Lise Merle
People should be in jail. They should be in jail. Let's. I'll just talk about the Independent Press Gallery, of which I am the president. Yesterday we applauded the conservatives for their policy motion to force the CBC to compete in a free market. The Independent Press Gallery, again of which I am the president, it is an association of journalists from all across the country working across multiple platforms and different forms of media. We don't care if you're on the left or the right. Here's what we care about. Do you believe in the free press and do you believe in fully being independent and transparent? Do you believe in being independent of the government and taking government funds? If that's the case, you're welcome. In the Independent Press Gallery, we provide training. We will, like, we've done training on, you know, what you need to know to.
Sheila Gunn
It's just been awesome.
Lise Merle
Yeah. To prevent you from finding yourself on the wrong side of a defamation lawsuit, we've done training seminars on your rights as a journalist in a public place. Like, what is trespass? When can you be trespassed? Where can you film what's considered a public place? Things that you need to know as a. As a journalist out there in the world, Especially if you don't have the backing of an organization like Rebel News, where we're just like, call the lawyers, sue everybody. You know, if you're, if you're independent, we want to be there to provide. Okay.
Sheila Gunn
If you, if you see, if you see journalists holding one of these, I don't know, can you see this, this guarantee, this, this guarantees that. That that journalist is independent, is not being. Is not being paid by government and is not towing any kind. Of. Any kind of line. This is in stark contrast. You'll remember on yesterday's show, it was divulged on CPAC, that there are how many 180,000 journalists carrying water for Mark Carney, the Liberal Party of Canada 180000 Remember that there are a handful of independent of independent journalists that are. That are the voices countering that insane corruption. This is a. This is. This is a. This is a. Media and government rot together. This is what that is.
Lise Merle
So it's like a symbiotic parasitic relationship where the taxpayer is the one being suckled dry. If you are an independent journalist and your work is published somewhere, and what I mean by that is, are you publishing on X? Are you on YouTube? Do you have substack, do you have medium, whatever, and you want to join the independent press gallery, it's 10 bucks a year. You get a cool press pass and access to our trainings and supports and advocacy. I'm so frequently. I frequently issue press releases condemning the treatment of our member journalists. And sometimes not even our member journalists like our friends at Caliber magazine. I'm not even sure if he oh my God, I need a new headshot. But anyway, if. If we frequently just provide moral support to journalists who find themselves in harm's way, as opposed to the mean girls at the CBC who boohoo over unflattering photos and mean tweets. But anyway, this is what we said yesterday. For decades, the CBC has enjoyed billions in guaranteed subsidies while behaving like a political actor rather than a public broadcaster. It has been shielded from competition, insulated from failure, and allowed to posture as a moral.
Sheila Gunn
Oh, where did.
Lise Merle
Oh.
Sheila Gunn
Did we. Sheila Gun Reed? You guys, did we lose Sheila Gun Reed? She froze. I wish I could see that statement. Olivia, are you still there? Where's it? Please? We're just going to go to an ad break, everybody. Slight technical difficulties. Bear with us. We will be right back.
Lise Merle
Big news. Rebel News now has premium memberships on X locals and right here on YouTube for just 4.99amonth. On YouTube, you'll get loyalty badges, custom emojis, and access to members only chats during our live streams. At 8.99amonth. You'll also unlock rebel news plus shows and our documentaries. But here's the catch. YouTube could cancel that premium tier at any time. That's why the best way to support us is@rebelnewsplus.com it's just eight bucks a month cheaper if you go annual. And you'll get exclusive extras like an ad free site, comments, access, and even the chance to submit op EDS wherever you join us. Thanks for keeping our independent journalism alive and strong. Anyway, I'm back. Elon Musk failed me. Starlink had a momentary glitch there. Anyway, if you want to read that statement, it's on the independent press gallery socials. But we just go through and rip CBC for being a political actor rather than a public broadcaster. Shielded from competition, insulated from failure, and allowed to posture as a moral authority without ever facing market criticisms. We said that CBC has enjoyed extraordinary advantages. Protected budgets, preferred distribution and political insulation. This era should end. It is time for the broadcaster to face the same discipline as every independent outlet in the country. And we welcome this policy motion as a necessary commitment against Canada's bailout driven media cartel in a step toward restoring oppressed that answers to citizens instead of politicians.
Sheila Gunn
Beautiful. Just gorgeous. And yes, the CBC should have to compete on the same playing field as everybody else. Of course they should imagine. Oh, I could just. You know what? That's going to be the best day of my life is when the CBC has to rely on the same level of hustle that we have to rely on here. Will explode. Just be awesome. Can't wait.
Lise Merle
Okay, I'm just sending you a message, Olivia, about the two cringes because one came to me from a friend last night and I thought that's a great one for Elise to react to. And then there's one about the Haitian immigrant and I just. It's so perfect. Like chefs kiss the left. Like when they're. You know how they're like, we can't deport all the illegals. My word. Who will cut the grass? I don't know, the 16 year old up the street. Like, what are you doing? Anyways, we'll get to that. Let's do the chats. And then the cringes. Okay, we've got a few chats. Cuddy 77, 599. Just spreading the love from my defunded gem account. The West coast is listening. Your defunded CBC gem account? They're still going to count that as an active account as long as they have your email address. I learned that at committee.
Sheila Gunn
Oh, interesting. Well, thank you for. Thank you for sharing the love. We love you back.
Lise Merle
Yeah, I think I learned that when Kevin Waugh, one of my favorite mps from Saskatchewan, he was Uncle. Uncle Kev. Just the best. Uncle Kev was given Catherine Tate at the cbc. Just the business. And they were talking about like the number of GEM subscribers. That's their like subscription service. And it's like subscribers versus active users are two very different things. And like they were counting active users as just people whose emails they'd captured Ah, interesting. Basically, they were as big as crave if you asked them, and it was like, no, I don't think so. Actually, Northern Lights i5Z gives us five bucks. Thank you for covering this. Evil is hard to confront, but confront it we must. I believe that's the gaze against groomers stuff.
Sheila Gunn
Thanks, buddy. Thanks, buddy. Appreciate you.
Lise Merle
It's our.
Sheila Gunn
It's our honor. It's our honor to do this work. And it ain't easy. I will tell you that for free. It ain't easy. Yeah.
Lise Merle
But grateful that we work at a company that allows us to.
Sheila Gunn
Oh, just.
Lise Merle
77. Just. Jack gives us 10 bucks. What's going on with pipelines is exactly what happened in the early 1980s with the national energy program. Yes, sir. Alberta threatens the power dynamic of the Laurentian elites. They hate us having any power to do to our wealth. Yes, yes. They also. The elites, with their pedigree last names and their social circles, they hate the idea that you can make a quarter million bucks a year in Alberta with your back in your hands and a little bit of hard work. They hate that.
Sheila Gunn
This is.
Lise Merle
You can graduate from high school and then have the wealth and life you deserve. They hate it.
Sheila Gunn
They. They can't stand us doing well. They literally want to see us, you know, in a. In a food line.
Lise Merle
Yeah.
Sheila Gunn
The only thing, according to them, the only thing that we should have is what they. You know, the crumbs that are swept off of their immaculately set table. Okay.
Lise Merle
Right. Yeah, Right. We're supposed to be table.
Sheila Gunn
Thanks.
Lise Merle
The drone underclass serving the queen bee. Slaves in this country.
Sheila Gunn
Yeah, Slaves. Slave class.
Lise Merle
It's Paul Newman. Gives us 6.99.
Sheila Gunn
I love him.
Lise Merle
I know. Frequent donor to the show. Frequent chatter. To be fair, Krechen has not known what's happening in Alberta going back over 30 years. Thank you. I think, generally speaking, perhaps I should cut him some slack because he did choke out a hippie that one time, and so.
Sheila Gunn
Oh, wasn't that. Didn't he get hit? Hit with a pie or something?
Lise Merle
Is that.
Sheila Gunn
Is that John?
Lise Merle
Is that Jean Did. They called it the old show. Win again. Handshake where he just grabbed that hippie by the neck.
Sheila Gunn
Right. Took him down.
Lise Merle
Yeah. Someday. Bradley Wilcox, 8604, gives us two bucks and says separation is the only way.
Sheila Gunn
Amen, brother.
Lise Merle
Okay, let's. Oh, gosh. Let. Oh, my word. That popped up and it shouldn't have. Okay, let's go to the York Regional Police. I don't know when this is from. I'm going to say probably from last June.
Sheila Gunn
Okay.
Lise Merle
But I regret to inform you that the York Regional Police are at it again.
Sheila Gunn
Is this, is this the cringe?
Lise Merle
This is one of the cringes. We're going to go. There's the. Okay, Lisa, this one's for you.
Sheila Gunn
Okay, I'm ready. I'm ready. I won't take my.
Lise Merle
Imagine being one of those cops in the background. Like you just want to die. You know.
Sheila Gunn
They have legs. They have. Each one of those guys has legs. I can see them.
Lise Merle
Girl is really getting into it. Look at.
Sheila Gunn
Oh, a drag hag all the way. Drag hag all the way.
Lise Merle
That.
Sheila Gunn
But, but this. How could you debase yourself? How could you debase your uniform like this? This is friggin embarrassing. You know what I. You know what the last thing I think of is? Oh, these guys are going to keep me safe.
Lise Merle
Right? That dancer.
Sheila Gunn
If that dancer came into the women's washroom while my daughter was there, who am I going to trust to keep my daughter safe? The guy. The guys beating their lips, beating the girl.
Lise Merle
Just like dancing.
Sheila Gunn
Like really getting into it, behind it. Gross. Absolutely gross.
Lise Merle
We got to do away with DEI and policing. DEI in general. But let's just start with policing.
Sheila Gunn
I just top down, top down in every, in every industry, in every ministry, in every publicly funded institution. Gone.
Lise Merle
Yes. You know, like I love summer. I like the summer weather. I like going on a summer toodle with my best friend. To all the cowboy zoos. I love that part of summer is pride season. I get. It's just a non stop, just optical abuse every time I open the Internet.
Sheila Gunn
Yeah. But now, okay, now you guys, now you have something. Now you have something really lovely to think about when you see those rainbow colors. Because the rainbow doesn't belong to any one category of people. It doesn't belong to just one group. And this is how we. Take it back, Savage. Take it back. You will not see me dancing on a stage like that. You just will not. But I'm reading little stories to little children. Yes.
Lise Merle
Yeah. Somebody points out that I think York Regional Police, their starting salary is 72, 000 a year. So 200 bucks a day. Five clapping cops for drag queen dancing is roughly a thousand dollars worth of wages. Not to mention that drag queen is not dancing for free. That's probably a five thousand dollar hit there. If you can call that dancing. What is that? Oh, this is.
Sheila Gunn
That's like. It's like the style, you know. Elon Musk's problematic son. If you watch Elon Musk's problematic son who's pretending to be a girl. This is. This is a style of performance this year. What you saw there. And you know, no, thank you. It's just not my thing. I don't want to be exposed to it.
Lise Merle
I don't know if you caught Linden and I Irish dancing the rebel whose after party, but we'll come do it for like half this much. Both of us.
Sheila Gunn
Okay, I'll hired.
Lise Merle
Hi, I'm in York regional. Please call me.
Sheila Gunn
Do you have. Do you have friends and family pricing? Like, what's my. What's my rate? What would it take for you guys to be in my living room doing that dance?
Lise Merle
Lyndon will do it probably for a pack of cigarettes.
Sheila Gunn
Done, bro.
Lise Merle
Get here.
Sheila Gunn
Leave now. Leave right after the show.
Lise Merle
I'll do it for free. You know that. Let's go to that. The cringe of the lady who adopted a Haitian migrant illegal.
Sheila Gunn
A designer baby. She got herself a designer baby.
Lise Merle
Okay, let's look sort of on the like 40th trimester. Okay.
Sheila Gunn
And it's really fun having them.
Ontario Teacher (Lady Justin Bieber)
What I realized is there's so much prejudice against refugees.
Sheila Gunn
Mostly it cuz people don't know them.
Lise Merle
Lisa says she feels like she has her own personal chef.
Sheila Gunn
As Will Donde loves cooking. And it's really fun having them.
Lise Merle
What I realized is, ma', am, slavery is illegal. What are you doing? She took in a Haitian refugee and makes her cook.
Sheila Gunn
Yep. That's what. That's what. That's what was just said on the news. Could you imagine. Could you imagine calling your local news and being like, now listen, I got me some designer adoptive kids who are really quite handy around the house.
Lise Merle
Around the house. They're cooking, they're cleaning, they're wearing uniforms.
Sheila Gunn
Since they've arrived, I don't have to get out of bed until 11. And even then they bring me my eggs. It is quite the splendiferous. Everybody should try this.
Lise Merle
Not a great look. The rich white lady with the black lady doing all the cooking and the cleaning. I thought we were against that.
Sheila Gunn
A little bit tone deaf. A little bit tone deaf.
Lise Merle
But.
Sheila Gunn
But again, liberal women. Absolutely.
Lise Merle
Oh, she thinks she's the best. She'll be out there protesting ICE tomorrow. Right.
Sheila Gunn
Because she gets virtue points from all of her friend group. The friend group would be like, how, you know, you really sacrificed a lot to bring these poor Haitian kids into your house. Meanwhile, right? We got Cinderella in the background scrubbing corners. Like she's like having a personal chef. Hello, I'd like. Excuse me. Are there any children to adopt that are really great at scrubbing toilets and folding laundry? Those are the two jobs I hate the most. So I was just hoping for. For. For. For an adoptive child that would fit well into our family. Just let me know. Okay, bye.
Lise Merle
Yeah, she adopted a refugee or a child on the 40th trimester or whatever it is, like. And she just thinks she's the most morally superior woman. It's like, ma', am, you have a slave in your house. Okay, we've got a couple more chats. Alex Greer, 7700, because it's 279, says Krechen is the best recruiter for separatism.
Sheila Gunn
Amen. Listening Weekend at Bernie's. Don't forget, every time I see him now, I just want you to think that they're trotting them out with two people under each. Under each underarm. And then there's marionette strings that they take out.
Lise Merle
He looks like he does. Like he. Remember when I was in Brazil and I sent you all those photos from the local cemetery and the crypts were open and I was like, I guess we have vampires. That's where they put Gretchen back to bed at night in a.
Sheila Gunn
In. In a slendiferous. In a vast mausoleum. Yeah, it's true.
Lise Merle
Into the mausoleum with him.
Sheila Gunn
Yes, a fast mausoleum.
Lise Merle
Okay, one more. Silver feet. 1280 gives us five bucks. Albertans. The first Trudeau destroyed you. The second Trudeau demolished you. What are you waiting for? The third Trudeau. Yeah, we don't need Hadrian to come get us.
Sheila Gunn
Could you imagine Ella, Grace, Justin or the rapper? Could you imagine the. Which one is the rapper again? Oh, it's the Z. Xavier. Xavier. Could. Could you imagine taking orders from Xavier Trudeau?
Lise Merle
Like, we gotta go, man. We gotta go. We gotta go. Arra Der Canada. We're out. I think that's a show for today. Thanks so much for tuning in, guys. We're back tomorrow with the Buffalo Panel. Because it's Wednesday. Three straight days with Lis Merle on the show. We don't deserve this.
Sheila Gunn
Well, I'm going to be. Thursday. I'm going to be napping.
Lise Merle
Okay.
Sheila Gunn
I'll be recovering from this. Actually. My voice is having a hard time keeping up to this week, and so thanks for bearing with me and my croaking and my coughing and my. About Warner. I'm a Chatty Cathy, as you all know, and I think I about blew my vocal cords this week, so. No, tomorrow's going to be awesome. Tomorrow's my favorite day of the week. It's hump day. Okay? Hump day. Western Wednesday. This is where all the westerners come together to have important conversations. Can't wait, you guys. Wait till you see who we have on tomorrow. Just you wait and see.
Lise Merle
Wait till I see. I don't know. I don't know we're all going to see together because I didn't even look at the schedule for tomorrow. Olivia, thanks so much for putting the show together. Olivia and Efron bringing up the things when we ask for them. I know we. We sort of take it out of order sometimes, and I throw to things that we don't have on the list. So I know that you guys have to find that stuff real quick. Thanks to those of you who kicked in a little bit of money here to keep the lights on at Rebel News, and for those of you who I. I realize that the government is making you more poor than you've ever been. It's real cheap and easy to just engage with the content, leave a comment, share it with somebody. The more it our content is interacted with, the higher it is on the algorithm and served up in front of more eyeballs, which is really our mission here at Rebel News is to change hearts and minds and be happy warriors. I think that's it for the show. And as Lisa and I always say, if you find us offensive, maybe don't find us at all.
Episode: Laurentian elites smear Alberta separation, Epstein's ties to trans ideology
Date: February 3, 2026
Hosts: Sheila Gunn Reid and Lise Merle
This jam-packed episode sees hosts Sheila Gunn Reid and Lise Merle tackle explosive topics at the intersection of politics, culture, and media. The main themes include the alleged influence of elites like Jeffrey Epstein on the trans rights movement, scathing reactions to criticisms of Alberta separatism by Canada’s "Laurentian elite", and a critical look at recent political appointments and criminal justice decisions in Canada. With frank, informal banter, the hosts react to viral news clips and reader comments, maintaining their signature critical (often sardonic) tone.
[00:47–12:20]
Epstein Rabbit Hole: Both hosts react to revelations unearthed by Gays Against Groomers, suggesting that billionaire Jeffrey Epstein discussed with Harvard scientists the sexualization and medical transition of children as young as three years old.
Disturbing Science: The hosts read from leaked emails outlining medical manipulation for "novel phenotypes" — transitioning children with hormones or surgery.
“Biblically Evil”: The hosts use powerful language to describe what they see as the sinister motives behind the mainstreaming of trans issues among children.
[12:53–35:22]
Business Leaders Smear Independence: The Edmonton Chamber of Commerce and Laurentian elites are accused of fearmongering (i.e., “Project Fear”) — arguing Alberta would be economically devastated by separation.
Comparisons with Scotland & Quebec Apt?
“Lady Justin Bieber” Ontario Teacher Responds
Debunking Economic Arguments:
[31:54–34:38]
Chrétien’s appearance to "rah-rah United Canada" ridiculed.
Sheila: "If you spent any time in Alberta...the idea of independence is...the first thing on our mind." [34:14]
[37:50–44:52]
Appointment Criticized: Ex Toronto police chief and Liberal minister Bill Blair is attacked for "failing upward," being rewarded for allegedly disastrous decisions and leadership.
Extravagant Spending:
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Policing & DEI: Critique of York Regional Police officers participating in a drag event.
Virtue-Signaling and "Designer Babies": Outrage over a viral story of a white woman adopting a Haitian refugee and boasting that she now has a "personal chef."
Throughout, Sheila and Lise maintain a brash, sarcastic, and highly opinionated style. There is heavy skepticism toward government, mainstream media, and left-wing cultural trends, interspersed with humor and occasional digs at public figures.
This episode offers a deep dive into alternative perspectives on current Canadian political events, controversial social movements, and the relationship between Western provinces and the Ottawa "elites." With plenty of critical commentary, viral video reactions, and lively banter, it’s a robust showcase of the Rebel News style — unapologetically oppositional, populist, and combative.
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