A (6:45)

Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, as you rightly point out, GE deals with nuclear reactors. Scotiabank has your financial information. Tell us, of course, telecommunications and, you know, Air Canada. Yeah, the baggage handlers were in on the single largest terror attack that was orchestrated largely on Canadian soil. It would appear that in their efforts, sometimes, I think, to be woke or to express their diversity credentials, these companies are throwing the safety and security of their clients and customers by the wayside.

B (7:25)

That's a very important point, Sheila. Identity politics play a huge role in this. If somebody who looked like me wearing a red MAGA cap was saying something about Muslims and, and going to mosques, not only would I be fired, but I have no doubt the police would be knocking at my door for criminal charges, you know, and, and hate crime charges. So it is a double standard. And I think we have seen a theme here that all these companies, they've had these employees spewing this venom for weeks, sometimes months. And it's almost Sheila, like this. Let's just hope nobody notices and it'll go away. Cause you know, it might be a little culturally insensitive. And then once we expose it, guess what? They're terminated. And I have to tell you, the media relations departments of some of these companies have been great in getting back to us. I speak of Telus and the Royal bank and they've been horrible in terms of other companies. I speak of Scotiabank and General Electric and who have never gotten back to us. But we did learn that those vile anti Semites are there. And in the terms of Air Canada, I think there was so much blowback from our original report, Sheila, they had no choice. I got a response to my original email for queries. I think it was 12 days, 12 days after I sent it. And it's almost, I think that some of these media relations department, they think that, you know, if we don't get back to him, the story dies on the vine. No, it doesn't. We just say you were too cowardly to say something. And even the way Air Canada. And there was no name in the media relations department, just a, like a blanket statement. It began with words. The effect, Sheila, of Since this seems to be a concern for you. A concern for me, what about you?

A (9:35)

Concern for you?

B (9:36)

Yeah, I mean you've got the most to lose if you know, God forbid somebody plants a bomb on an Air Canada passenger aircraft and it blows up over the mid Atlantic like what happened to Air India 40 years ago. I mean it, it's astonishing.

A (9:54)

And you know, it's an interesting strategy to have a media relations department that relates in absolutely no way to the media. It's, it's unhelpful and as you say, it causes the story to catch fire because you know, it shows that they're not serious about doing something. And I think you are right to point out that these people saying these things, calling for the death of Jews, they feel like there will be no consequences, social or economically speaking for them. Like they're very Open about it. They're not posting under fake names. That's how we know who they are. They just think in Canada's current political climate, where you have hate marches on the streets of Toronto every single week and yaya sinwar cosplays in Jewish neighborhoods, that this is the acceptable discourse taking place.

B (10:47)

Sheila, we are of two minds on this. You hit the nail on the head. You're right. They have looked at the pro Hamas reprobates that for more than two years now, they have trespassed into restaurants and bookstores and shopping malls. They have uttered death threats, including to police officers. They have used vandalism. They have shot up Jewish businesses and. And private schools and synagogues. They have displayed swastikas, as you said, cosplaying as terrorists. And what have the Toronto police done? Stand down, stand down, stand down. And as a matter of fact, if there's any independent journalists or peaceful counter demonstrators offending the Hamas holes, as I like to call them, well, throw the book at them, Arrest them. So what I'm getting at, if I'm one of these reprobates online, I look at that, I look at the lack of criminal charges, I look at the envelope constantly being moved. No blowback. And I say to myself, there's no consequences. You know, they're actually acting out violently. If I spew my hateful rhetoric, nothing's going to happen to me. So I understand their entitlement. And to your other point, these weren't private text messages uncovered, Sheila. Oh, no, no, no. They were saying it loud, saying it proud. So I think they are. What is generating this is the lack of political and law enforcement blowback against what we've been seeing happening in the streets for more than two years now.

A (12:33)

Yeah. And it's not just a lack of political police action. The police, in some instances, aid and abet these people. We, you know, we saw them delivering coffee and donuts to the protesters who were blocking the overpass on I forgot which Jewish neighborhood it is, Bathurst and Shepherd. And then we've seen other instances where the police are quite literally escorting the mob.

B (13:01)

Yep.

A (13:02)

Into the Jewish community. So, yeah, if you work for one of these sensitive companies, you would feel completely justified in taking your hate online using your own name, because there are no tangible consequences when it's on the street. Why would it come at you when you're online?

B (13:23)

Oh, and. And what's behind the unspoken strategy? And by the way, she'll plug a report I got coming in the next couple of days. Allegedly, it's the senior legal counsel for the Toronto Police Service, who oddly enough is now on leave. Falconi Debnath.

A (13:42)

It's almost like that happened after some of your reporting.

B (13:45)

Correct. Not only the reporting. Bringing our big beautiful billboard truck to police headquarters. And that was so funny. Evidently she flipped her wig. Our boss Ezra had a call from a senior police officer saying, you know, she's very upset. Can you move the truck? She's threatening to resign.

A (14:04)

That's the world point. Success.

B (14:09)

But the point is, is that this story goes back to Mayor Olivia Chao saying that police Chief Myron Demke told her that the reason they're taking a kid gloves approach to the pro Hamas reprobates is because police of legal counsel saying that these charges won't hold up in court. Which is absolute rubbish because we're not just talking about hate crime, Sheila. We're talking about crime crimes here. Right, and you had Dem Q saying that the mayor was lying about this. And I'm not a fan of Mayor Olivia Chao, but I believe the mayor on this file, Sheila, because it comes down to this. What would the mayor have to gain about lying on this file? So I think we found out the source of the lack of policing. And going back to the issue du jour, the five Islamist bozos having their options online. They take their talking points from that. And you know what, Sheila? Let's hope moving ahead as news of all these people getting terminated. And in the case of the GE employee, I never heard back from ge, but I heard back from Ontario Power Generation that he is prohibited from going to nuclear sites in Ontario. Yeah, I mean, I don't want to. I don't even want that guy near a gas station. Okay, Right. But, but let's hope as word gets out, you know what, we might not be so immune if we're, you know, espousing death to the fill in the blank group. So we'll see in the, the weeks and months ahead if, you know, the. The water ceases boiling and it's brought back to a normal level.

A (16:01)

You know, on the flip side though, I kind of don't want these guys to shut up because I do want to know who they are. I want to know who they are so that we can expose them and then they can face the personal and socioeconomic consequences for their bad ideas.

B (16:17)

You know what, that's an excellent point. And you know what, Sheila? They are exposing themselves. These are self inflicted wounds. Like I said, we're not relying Leviathan or any other source. They're not hacking into a phone and getting a confidential email or text message. And these guys are openly posting this. And hey, you reap what you're sow, as they say, out in your neck of the woods. Right?

A (16:43)

That's exactly it. They're reaping the whirlwind. And you know, you look at the treatment of these guys, their names should be everywhere because remember when there was a swastika in the freedom convoy and that guy was clearly a fed, like, oh yeah, you know, everything about everybody involved in the freedom convoy. If you are a MAGA grandma in Pennsylvania, you're going to have CNN on your front lawn. But they could never figure out who that guy was who only once walked through the Freedom convoy in front of some very prominent photographers and then disappeared. Nobody chased him down, nobody followed him, nobody tried to get his name, nobody saw where he went versus how people are completely fine apparently to walk around the streets of Toronto with their swastikas and their other symbols of hate.

B (17:42)

100 and I think Shelley almost forgot Canadians having their bank accounts by for all line Freeland and you know, using a hacked list.

A (17:50)

I never want us to forget that they used a hacked list, turn it over to the banks and then the banks complied. So everybody was bad in that and nobody came in.

B (17:59)

Woman more giddy than when she was announcing it. It was gross. And I want to on the issue of double stand Scotiabank, which I mentioned earlier never got back to be about their senior exec spewing all kinds of vile messages. Isn't it funny, Sheila? I've covered two stories. One of an individual in Grand Prairie, Alberta and another of a senior citizen lady here in Toronto who were debanked. Why? Well, in the case of the Grand Prairie individual, he was just asking. I believe it was the month of August and the Scotiabank app on his phone was still the rainbow colors. And he was asking somebody at the bank, not making a scene, when does it go back to the normal, you know, red and white logo. A manager overheard and bingo, he's debanked. And the senior citizen went into her branch and there was all this DEI stuff, all these rainbow flags. And she simply said, when are you going to celebrate senior citizens debanked. Debanked just for those statements. And meanwhile you got a guy saying, you know, kill the Jews, bomb Israel, I love Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis. And nothing to see here, folks, until there is something to see. And then you throw them under the bus because of the publicity black eye, you know.

A (19:22)

And I want to leave on a positive note because we're filming this before the live stream. But. But I guess the positive note in having so many vicious genocidal antisemites in corporate Canada is that there's a big difference between their corporate public relations strategy and how the public feels about this. Because the public is outraged by this. I know, because they cc me on the emails that they send to these businesses demanding action, saying what are you doing? I'm taking my business elsewhere or I don't feel safe on your airline. And so I guess that's the good news is that while these companies only seem to take it seriously once we get involved, once Leviathan exposes them, the public feels entirely different. And that heartens me.

B (20:24)

You know what, that's a great point. And let's be honest, the only reason these people are getting terminated, Sheila, is because the cat is out of the bag. As I said, it's a PR black eye. And now it's not about doing the right thing. It's about damage control and crisis management. And I want to ask you a question, my friend.

A (20:44)

This is my show, David. I'll ask the questions. No, I'm kidding. Go ahead.

B (20:48)

But does this not make the case for independent media such as Rebel News? Wouldn't you think given the severity of all these stories, especially the Air Canada one, which I think is the most egregious one, wouldn't you think that would be the proverbial media snowball? But no, we break the story. The mainstream media has an easy job. They just crib from our reports. But people, because it's us, they won't, you know, so it's kind of like if a tree falls in the forest and nobody hears it. It never really made a sound. That is despicable.

A (21:22)

Right? I mean, and don't expect, you know, a remark from Mark Carney on this sort of stuff. Remember Justin Trudeau with the hijab hoax? You know, he gave a big statement, but it was a hoax. You know, somebody, you know, sneers at a mosque. And every single politician has to prostrate themselves and self flagellate about the state of. But they never remark on this stuff. And we know it's because of how our liberal government feels about the state of Israel. And you have your theories and I have mine. I think it's because Israel is a very American country. But they never really remark on it the way they would remark on other things. And you know, to see this in practice, we saw Laith Maruth, vicious anti Semite, getting all kinds of money from the government. So you Know this. This is the case of the main. This is a. A condemnation of the mainstream media. But we also know how they feel about Israel. They're happy to call Canada a genocidal state over residential schools, but when we have people actually calling for genocide working in corporate Canada, they have, you know, what is it? Cor. What is the guy I see say nothing. I do nothing.

B (22:41)

Sergeant Schultz, thank you.

A (22:43)

He said it to me 20 times and I still forget. Yeah, Sergeant. They go all Sergeant Schultz. They just don't care. But also, it's because some of. They don't like us either. Right. The reporting has the cooties of the rebel on it, so they just can't touch it, even though it's an important story that a public needs to see.

B (23:01)

These are good points, Sheila. And I would add one other. Isn't the idea of the media and the political class and even law enforcement and senior executives of the companies we mentioned ignoring this? Isn't this almost an example of the racism of low expectations?

A (23:19)

Yep.

B (23:20)

The idea that, well, you know what? He's an adherent of Islam. As though all adherents of Islam, every Muslim thinks about this. If I was a Muslim that subscribed to Western values, I was a proud Canadian. I'm peaceful. I hate the idea of terrorism. I support Islam going through a reform movement which it has yet to do. So I would be outraged. How dare you cover for those people because you think you might offend me.

A (23:52)

Right. I'll give you a good example of this. I can't stand Nick Fuentes. Apparently, he's a Catholic. I don't like them. I don't. I don't like his opinions on just about everything. And. And for someone to lump us all in together. Like, if somebody said, well, you Catholics are all like Nick Fuentes, I would be deeply offended. If somebody said that, I would be deeply offended. And you know, you can. As you say, it's the bigotry of low expectations. And they say, well, we don't want to offend our Muslim employees. Why are you assuming all your Muslim employees are raging anti Semites?

B (24:23)

Yeah.

A (24:24)

Bigot. Yeah.

B (24:25)

Unbelievable. But. Well, Sheila, all I have to say is we have another update coming in the days ahead, and I have been tipped off about another Air Canada.

A (24:36)

I bet you have.

B (24:38)

Not in Toronto. And I wonder if I'll get some condescending email from media relations of Air Canada, because this seems to be of concern to you.

A (24:49)

Everybody, like, everybody who takes your airline, but also, really importantly, all of you at Air Canada. Yeah. And I know Alexa is also working on a big story in this regard, too. It seems like it's a real problem, but as they say, sunlight is the best disinfectant. So, David, thank you so much for your hard work on this, but also on everything that you do. And special shout out to Lady Menzies for having to put up with you.

B (25:16)

Well, thank you, I think. But seriously, Sheila, it's always a pleasure. Anytime you want me on your show, I'm here for you, my friend.

A (25:23)

Great. You're a fan favorite. I'm going to get emails saying have him back on very soon. So I will. Thank you, David Menzies.

B (25:30)

Thank you.

A (25:38)

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He supports all of our projects, and we're just so grateful for people like Bruce. And because Bruce takes the time to write to me, I try to respond. Bruce has a cat named Delta. And Bruce writes to me on my interview that I did with Alexa Lavoie a couple weeks ago about her trip to Cuba. She and our head of production, Efron Monsanto, went to Cuba to tell the stories of the Cuban people, to actually speak directly to them about what they think about Donald Trump, what the Americans are doing around the world, and more specifically about the arrest of Venezuelan tyrant dictator murderer Nicholas Maduro, narco terrorist. Let us never forget that. And thousands, maybe tens of thousands of people around the world have died because of narco terrorism and the spread of pernicious poisons into our communities. And Bruce writes, what a great show you and Alexa Lavoie did yesterday. This documentary on Cuba must be shared around the world. People need to see the real situation of the Cuban people. And the next part is something that I remarked on on the live stream but also on the show that day. And you know, this is not a condemnation of the people who holiday in Cuba, but I would ask you to kindly reconsider going to Cuba as a tourist and staying in your fancy resort because your tourism dollars are propping up a regime that is all but imprisoning its people. And so if you want, like, look, it's minus 36 upstairs. That's without the wind chill. It's blowing snow that hell wouldn't have. I get the desire for a warm holiday somewhere. Have you tried Mazatlan or the Dominican? There are other places that are as affordable where you're not propping up communism. And I think as responsible small C conservatives, we really should consider our choices. In the same way that many of us, myself included, don't drink Bud Light anymore because of the political choices that that company made, we really should let our dollars do the talking. Okay? Those Canadian tourists wanting a few weeks in the sun have zero understanding of just how deplorable the situation is for the citizens. And now that the regime is starved of support and America has warships in the area, the leadership of that imprisoned island has no cards left to play. Also, we who believe in God must pray for a peaceful liberation of Cuba. Yours, Bruce Atchison. And then Bruce closes on a quote from Premier Daniel Smith, if you don't want to get beaten up, don't break into people's houses. Premier Daniel Smith. I think that's great advice. Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight. Thank you so much for tuning in. I'll see everybody back here in the same time in the same place next week. Maybe, maybe not. I mean, you will have a show. 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