Reclaiming with Monica Lewinsky: Episode Featuring Director Jon M. Chu
Host: Monica Lewinsky
Guest: Jon M. Chu
Release Date: March 25, 2025
Podcast: Reclaiming with Monica Lewinsky by Wondery
Introduction
In this engaging episode of Reclaiming with Monica Lewinsky, host Monica Lewinsky sits down with acclaimed director Jon M. Chu. Known for his work on blockbuster hits like Crazy Rich Asians, In the Heights, and the recent sensation Wicked, Jon delves deep into how his identity influences his storytelling. The conversation uncovers personal anecdotes, professional insights, and profound reflections on reclaiming one's narrative amidst public scrutiny and cultural expectations.
The Oscars Experience: Behind the Scenes
Jon shares a memorable experience from the Oscars, offering listeners a rare glimpse into the celebration and the emotions tied to such a prestigious event.
Jon M. Chu [04:18]: "It was amazing. I mean, it was a huge celebration... Seeing everybody dressed up with their spouses or their families at the Dolby Theater reminded us that every little work is part of a giant history of storytelling."
He reminisces about sneaking into the Oscars in 2000, illustrating his early passion for the film industry.
Jon M. Chu [05:16]: "I put my little thing on a lanyard and walked in pretending to be on the phone... I got backstage and even snuck into the Governor's Ball. So that was my first experience."
This story highlights Jon's dedication and the lengths he went to immerse himself in the world of filmmaking.
Wicked: Exploring Identity and Public Humiliation
A significant portion of the conversation focuses on Jon's work on Wicked, particularly a poignant ballroom scene that captures themes of public humiliation and identity.
Monica Lewinsky [08:54]: "It captured public humiliation in a way that’s hard to do... It’s a healing moment to not feel alone."
Jon elaborates on the creative process behind this scene, emphasizing the authenticity and emotional depth he aimed to achieve.
Jon M. Chu [09:53]: "We always tried to do in a musical, bring truth to artifice... Movement and posture can express so much more than dialogue alone."
He discusses the nuanced performances of Cynthia Erivo and Ariana Grande, highlighting how their portrayals convey vulnerability and strength.
Jon M. Chu [14:03]: "Anthony Ramos is a standalone figure now. He talks in his own way... You have to be yourself."
The scene serves as a metaphor for reclaiming one's identity amid societal pressures, resonating with many personal and collective experiences of shame and acceptance.
Early Filmmaking and Cultural Identity
Jon delves into his early years, exploring how his cultural background shaped his approach to filmmaking and storytelling.
Jon M. Chu [21:22]: "Having a camera in my hand allowed me to observe... It was an access point for me."
He recounts the challenges of navigating his Asian American identity in a predominantly Hollywood landscape, touching on moments of racial realization and the desire to tell authentic stories.
Jon M. Chu [35:25]: "When you make your work, it’s not just your company assessing you. It’s the world assessing you."
This segment underscores the intersection of personal identity and professional ambition, highlighting Jon's commitment to representing his culture accurately and powerfully.
Filmmaking Philosophy: Process and Authenticity
Jon shares his filmmaking philosophy, emphasizing the importance of the creative process over the final product.
Jon M. Chu [47:38]: "It's about finding our collective magic and putting that in the bottle."
He discusses the balance between maintaining artistic integrity and meeting industry expectations, advocating for authenticity and collaboration.
Jon M. Chu [54:32]: "Absolutely. I poured everything into In the Heights. It’s the best craft I could do on camera."
Jon's approach centers on leveraging personal experiences and cultural narratives to create meaningful and resonant films.
Future Projects: Britney Biopic
Looking ahead, Jon touches upon his upcoming project—a biopic about Britney Spears—and the responsibilities that come with portraying a public figure.
Jon M. Chu [64:58]: "We have to use our power to get movies made that can be seen around the world."
He expresses empathy for young celebrities navigating fame and the invasive nature of public scrutiny, aiming to depict Britney's story with depth and sensitivity.
Jon M. Chu [65:32]: "How do you bring an audience in as wide as you can, but say something meaningful... so they don't feel alone?"
This project reflects Jon's ongoing commitment to reclaiming narratives and providing a platform for underrepresented voices.
Personal Reflections: Reclaiming Time and Family
In the concluding segment, Jon discusses the personal side of his journey, particularly the challenge of balancing a demanding career with family life.
Jon M. Chu [68:09]: "I'm always trying to reclaim time because all I want to do is give my time to my children and my wife."
He emphasizes the importance of finding balance and the profound impact of dedicating time to loved ones, even amidst professional pressures.
Jon M. Chu [69:08]: "I want them to see working hard is a beautiful thing... find that balance."
Conclusion
This episode of Reclaiming with Monica Lewinsky offers a multifaceted exploration of Jon M. Chu's life and work. From his early endeavors and cultural struggles to his triumphant moments at the Oscars and his thoughtful approach to filmmaking, Jon provides listeners with an intimate look at how he reclaims his narrative and inspires others to do the same. The thoughtful inclusion of personal anecdotes and professional insights makes this conversation both relatable and enlightening for anyone interested in the intersection of identity and storytelling.
Reclaiming with Monica Lewinsky continues to deliver honest, wide-ranging interviews that delve into the personal and often messy ways people find their way back to themselves. To listen to this episode early and ad-free, join Wondery+ on the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify.