Laura Day (2:12)

way, that was the one difficulty I really had with the name the Prism, was that, although now I see it is human architecture. It's a prism. But it really isn't about feeling because feeling is so misleading.

Monica Lewinsky (2:24)

Okay.

Laura Day (2:24)

And it's about how do you use your actions to interface with the world? In a way, you get the response you want. And it's to some degree mechanical, because our reality is to some degree mechanical. Which is a strange thing to say from an intuitive. Nice word for a psychic.

Monica Lewinsky (2:46)

Yes, exactly. Well, I think what's interesting is when you think about the sort of trajectory of your seven books, starting with Practical Intuition in 1996. Right?

Laura Day (2:56)

Yes.

Monica Lewinsky (2:56)

Yeah. So you Think about that trajectory in the middle there you have the circle. And is that right?

Laura Day (3:04)

Yes. But the circle was actually. Which is the precursor to. This was the first system that came to me because I was in a terrible situation. And the great thing, the bad thing about being an intuitive is you remember nothing and you walk into walls and you can't remember enough to have big, good table conversation. The good thing is when you ask a question, you get information. And I was in a terrible situation, and my question was, not even how did I get here? But how do I get out of it? So the circle came, and the circle led me to practical intuition.

Monica Lewinsky (3:41)

Okay.

Laura Day (3:41)

So I knew the circle. Practical intuition was an instant New York Times bestseller. And I knew the circle wouldn't be. It's a little too esoteric, at least for the time. For 1996. We live in different times now by decades. So practical intuition, though, which was really based on the scientific study of me by universities, and adapting that so people could find their own intuitive ability, I knew that that was the one that would do well. So that I did first.

Monica Lewinsky (4:13)

Oh, interesting. I didn't realize that I was thinking about. Because I loved. I listened to you on Elise Loonan's Pulling the Thread, who's a friend that we have in common and a bestselling author. Exactly, exactly. And she had talked to me about you. We actually.

Laura Day (4:29)

It's the Women's Champion network.

Monica Lewinsky (4:31)

Right, I know, exactly. And so it's interesting because I had this weird thing happen with my trusty little interview map, which is that I normally have a really strong sense of where I want to go into a conversation, and I didn't have that here. I kept hitting roadblocks. And so I didn't know. Not in a Putting you on the spot intuitive. Right. But I was like, is there something you needed to tell me, or is there somewhere you feel you want to start this conversation today?

Laura Day (5:08)

I think that the prism actually is your book. And that's true for many people in that especially incredible, capable, smart, successful people have a system that works for them. But they also have systems that. Because the system works for them and there is no crisis to slam them into rearranging it, they get stuck in their habits. So there are little categories in life that are chronically absent. And so what the prism does is it says, okay, what is it that's absent? What do you want in your life right now that really just doesn't appear? You keep thinking you're doing it differently, but you're not. And we don't have the answer inside. We're a closed system. The answer is always outside with a catalyst in Interact. So you would pick the issue and then you'd go to that section and you'd change a rule. And the idea of the prism, because intuition opens up so much information that we're all capable of, but lots of information often just isn't that helpful. What the prism does is it gives those small mechanical actions that you do that create a change that are outside of you. With a great myth, I think there are a bunch of myths. One of the biggest myths is that the answer is accessible inside. Our habits keep us together, but our habits also keep change out. And so we can't find that inside. And I think there's a lot of looking at our trauma, looking deeply within. And the reality is all that looking replaces action. And a tiny action makes a huge change if it's the right one.

Monica Lewinsky (6:57)

And sort of, Mary, for me, what you just said, with the concept of an idea of intuition, like, I've been aware of intuition for a long time and I've struggled, I think, myself, with the sense of how do I know when something is intuition? How do I know when you don't? Okay. Okay. Interesting.

Laura Day (7:18)

You know, people, I love my beginning students because they come equipped with their meditation practice and breathing and a crystal and whatever, unless they're bankers, in which case they come equipped with, well, let this prove this to me, which actually is a better position of attention to be able to do it. And they over complicate a super simple process. They want something, they want to get to that intuitive state, and then they want to know they're right. That's the opposite of intuition. You're intuitive all the time. And really, in order to get the data and be able to identify it in that messy place that is our inner being, you just need to know what your target is, what your question is, what your goal is, and you need to minimize them so that it's not just a morass of confusion. So you need a goal, and you also need to not prep a state the way you know your intuition is right. Is that what you predict happens? The conversation telepathically that you've been having that you think is in your head? You check it out and find out that actually the other person has been engaging in it too. Your remote viewing, you know, you practice looking at someplace you will be going that you've never seen before. You take good notes because again, memory is tricky and you verify it and what happens, happens. After a while, you never Know you're right, because that's reason. But what happens after a while is that you train your perceptions so that when you're looking metaphorically in a certain way, you get something that can be verified or disproven. And it's just as helpful to be able to disprove something. But again, we go into that realm of feeling. When you say, well, how do I know that's really a feeling? Knowing is actually a feeling in that context. And you don't. What happens is you realize you get a process. You apply that process over and over, and it becomes extremely reliable. The least reliable person for you to get intuition about is yourself. Because you know what you want, you know what you avoid. You are a prism. And until you evolve that structure that was put in place when you were a tiny child, you can't really have any perspective. And intuition's about data. You know, people think intuition's about goodness and spirit and all that stuff. No, it's about data. It's about knowing when, where, what, who and why.

Monica Lewinsky (10:01)

Right. And your background. I know you prefer not to use the word psychic and intuitive.

Laura Day (10:06)

I'm fine at this point. I'm gonna be 67. It's all.

Monica Lewinsky (10:10)

Well, I use intuitive, too, because I think. I mean, I fall very much on the woo woo scale. So you will get a crystal at the end of our conversation. Are you serious? Yeah, I give everybody a crystal.

Laura Day (10:23)

You are so funny.

Monica Lewinsky (10:24)

Because it's an exchange of energy. Yes, but so is this, Right? But that's the point, is that for me is. I think when people, you came, you drove here, you showed up, you put your makeup on and your clothes, and you're giving to all of us. You're giving to me for this show. I want to give something back.

Laura Day (10:41)

I love that.

Monica Lewinsky (10:42)

So I give everyone a crystal, but I fall into that space. But I also very much fall into the science and the physics and the quantum physics and the belief around, I think, time being circular, not linear. Which I think is some of what you talk about too, right?

Laura Day (11:01)

Absolutely. Except that I almost jump over all of that and just say, this is what works. What's really important is what works. Because what we underestimate is that in ourselves and with everyone else is that life is complicated and we don't really know how to do it. If we want to make a change, we know how to recreate the things we've created all along, but we don't know how to do it differently. So I'm really very much about your chess pieces. This piece Moves that way. You want to get here, you're going to want to use your rook. You want to get here, you're going to want to use your pawn. And just those very simple acts of doing it. Intuition though, is amazing because we live in a synchronous world. Meaning people are always looking for signs. Like Penny, heads up, everything's a sign. Every single piece of your life is an example of, of that inner blueprint that you are creating and you are the creator. What I've loved about my career with intuition is when I started, which was the early 80s, only like freaks with lots of cats on 5th floor walk ups did this. However, I was being studied by scientists and probably military funded, but no one ever knows. A lot men who have come out of accident, you know. I didn't come into intuition through any kind of spirituality. I came, although I think everything's spiritual, but I came to it through really being a test subject for research on what are the capacities of human consciousness. Consciousness, not meaning, you know, some elevated concept. But can you view this military target that's being built and what's going to happen? Can you look inside a human body? Can you find oil if I give you a map? You know, really very data heavy work. And I like that because I come from, as my son says, a bat shaped crazy family. And that little line between psychic and psychotic. I really, even, even at the age of 20 when all of this started, I wanted to make sure that I, if I, if I cross that line, it was with a pinky toe, not with my whole foot.

Monica Lewinsky (13:28)

Were you scared when you sort of started to realize that you had these abilities? Even though I know that so much of what you teach is that we all have these abilities. But as you're saying, did that freak you out in any way?

Laura Day (13:43)

No.

Monica Lewinsky (13:43)

Okay.

Laura Day (13:44)

I was, first of all, I was so happy. I mean, you know, go back, I'm 20, 21, I've had a disastrous childhood.

Monica Lewinsky (13:54)

I mean, if I remember correctly, you were at the age of five, you were raising your 3s.

Laura Day (14:00)

I was living alone in an apartment with three younger children, with my parents next door, unconnected, you know, big steel door between us. It was a kind of a crazy upbringing and it was one actually that gave me this system. Although it didn't solidify for me until 15 years ago.

Monica Lewinsky (14:23)

Okay.

Laura Day (14:24)

When after the deaths of my siblings, suicides of my siblings, I thought, why did I survive? I mean really, the honest truth was I was not that pretty. I was skinny. I hadn't really developed. I come from a Family of absolute geniuses. You know, Harvard, Stanford, Columbia. Geniuses. I was not that. I mean, I had add, so even if I was a genius, there was no way that I was going to

Monica Lewinsky (14:53)

be able to academically Genius.

Laura Day (14:55)

Yeah. I was not an academic genius.

Monica Lewinsky (14:57)

Okay, but I think you're.

Laura Day (14:58)

And I was in a school.

Monica Lewinsky (14:59)

You're a genius.

Laura Day (15:00)

I was in a school that academically was all about math and science geniuses. And I was just so happy that there was something, albeit a little weird special about me. That's really how I felt. Because none of this was a revelation. Like I didn't, you know, think of yourself at 20 or 21. You think you're weird in every bad way, but also that the whole world can do everything you can do. It never occurred to me why I was so unpopular at the third grade lunch table that most people don't know that someone's grandmother is going to die two days before it happens. And so it put in a serious sense, it put in context for me a lot of things that I thought were social flaws that really were just, oh, I see. You don't know. You see that? And it comes out of my mouth and that can be a little intrusive.

Monica Lewinsky (16:04)

So take me through a little bit, just the timeline. I know you're talking about your family. Your dad was a doctor, right? Or is a doctor. Was, Was, was. What kind of doctor? My dad's a doctor.

Laura Day (16:15)

He was a nephrologist. And then when the young guys did diocese in the office, just became an internist. But he was a very violent, narcissistic man. And my mother was a manic depressive who you had to remind to put clothes on to go out when she was manic. You know, I think in a lot of parts of Society There are 5 year olds who know how to take care of children, but in ours there wasn't. I mean, we were surrounded by wealth and yet lived in an apartment that often didn't have food in it for three days. So it was a very. That's not a confusing childhood because children adapt. I mean, that is the amazing thing. We forget about children. They adapt. It twists them for the future, but they adapt in the moment. My entire family have what people like to call unique neurology. And with my brother, it made him a brilliant mathematician and physicist. With my sister it made her a brilliant lawyer. And the other one's also an artist and mathematician. And with me, it was completely being the oldest folk on survival and my work, you know, I always tell my students, your Pathology can become your potential. You know, keeping us alive, figuring out which neighbors had big dinners and we could drop by their houses. You know, all of that intuitive knowing what was beyond my senses was such a life saving ability for me. And ultimately I think that's why I survived my siblings. Yeah, but we don't know we're different and we certainly don't know we're special. I was so happy that there was something special.

Monica Lewinsky (17:59)

That's really interesting, really interesting to me. I don't know that we talk enough about the sort of the import of that feeling of specialness. I think in some ways that's part of what got me in a lot of trouble in my early 20s of looking for and wanting to be special and feeling that feeling of specialness, of validation. And when it came, I fell into that, making bad decisions a lot of times, not just in D.C. a lot of different ways.

Laura Day (18:31)

But I also think bad decisions are, you know, they are part of the road test. I mean, I am still making some bad decisions. And you know, I used to want to smack her for this. But my friend Demi Moore, who's so much more woo woo than I am.

Monica Lewinsky (18:50)

Yes, she's amaz, so amazing.

Laura Day (18:53)

I mean, that goes.

Monica Lewinsky (18:53)

She has goddess energy.

Laura Day (18:55)

She's not just goddess, but supreme commander and sage of the world energy. But she would say to me, laura, don't ask why is this happening to me, Say, what is this doing for me? And at first I was very nasty to her about it. Like, oh please, you know, I'm calling for some compassion here. And then I thought about it and I thought, oh, wow. And now I use it in all my workshops because it is, why is this happening for me? Even if not everything happens for a reason. It's our job to give it reason if we don't want to be victims. And you know, being a victim is making someone else the hero of your story. In welcome to youo Crisis, which is a book I wrote with all of these psychiatrists I had done favors for. I wrote Mud in youn Face is a symbol that you're doing right, you're going in the right direction because you're doing something that isn't part of your history. You're doing something new. And if you do something new, you know, a snake is most vulnerable when they're shedding skin. Between old skin and new skin. It's important to walk into those walls. And it's unfortunate. I mean, I do think, you know, I work with a lot of well known people, not just in Hollywood, but You know, people who run huge corporations. And it's unfortunate when your walls are documented for the public. I've had a little of that too, even though I shouldn't have. But it's part of the process and often it's the quick way.

Monica Lewinsky (20:32)

What do you mean by the quick way?

Laura Day (20:35)

Because as mammals, we don't like change. So when we have no choice, when we really create that disaster, it forces us to change in ways that we would have taken so long to change if it had just been an evolution. Sometimes revolutions are great. Most of the time evolutions are better because they don't disrupt, which is really what the prism is about. It's how do we, you know, how do we evolve? And I think you were speaking about knowing that we're unique. We are. It's a very confusing, especially as an intuitive, where you have a sense of the one. We are one with everyone and everything. But it's our job to be individuals. It's really our job to be an I and to stand up for it. I believe, I want, I hate, I love, I choose, I build everything. That's an I is your separateness, your individuality, your ego. Although ego is such a dirty word.

Monica Lewinsky (21:44)

Well, right, but there's a lot about the ego in the prism, right? I mean, you're sort of.

Laura Day (21:48)

Because the ego's the only way you create. I mean, if you think of it, if you're omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent, you're not changing much. You know, you don't have to. We change. And when I get, you know, I have a tendency to be a tiny bit irritable, I'll do my best not

Monica Lewinsky (22:07)

to irritate you today.

Laura Day (22:10)

And I remind myself, wait a sec. Every single person is doing my job for me. We all, as individuals are changing that whole, that world we live in, that energy that is all of us, that all the sciences are now agreeing that this field is unified, if not actually just one energy. And it contextualizes things for me.

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Laura Day (25:11)

that's really an interesting question, and I really don't know the answer to that. I think my sense right now in retrospect is that I normalized an experience we all have. And on one hand people like to have the knowing that intuition gives you because it gives us a sense of control. But the actuality, the reality of intuition, the fact that feeling something that someone else is feeling at a distance is not always pleasant. Viewing locations that are scary, that take you out of your immediate environment is not always safe. Feeling knowing the future and Trying not to know what you know so you can live the moment. Not always that nice. You know, hearing what someone's thinking can be very confusing. People say, did I start the conversation or did they. No way of knowing. So, you know, I think that it normalized an experience people are having.

Monica Lewinsky (26:22)

Yeah.

Laura Day (26:22)

And. And so. And also, in all fairness, I had an amazing editor who is now a multiple New York Times bestseller, Craig Nelson. I also had Demi Moore go on to Oprah with me, and Oprah have me on for an hour on her fabulous show. I was literally shaking so much before that, because again, I'm an introvert. They both. They sandwiched me. They put their arms around me, and Oprah looked at me and said, don't worry, honey, we'll do this for you. Which they did. Thank God, because I was just like, now I love being in front of an audience. They're part of me, and I'm having a conversation with them and I'm enjoying it. But then I, you know, I didn't even like going to the grocery store.

Monica Lewinsky (27:14)

Right. Right. Well, I mean, so much of. I think, like, I find you fascinating, and I like you, and I think you're brilliant, but I also wanted to have you on the show, too, because, you know, just this idea around that we all have intuition that we don't necessarily. We haven't honed that skill. We've lost it. So it's about getting it back in a way.

Laura Day (27:37)

Absolutely. And it's also about directing it, because, you know, I have so many shoes in my shoe closet that I can never find a pair of shoes. You know, there's so much information that comes in intuitively, but it's useless. And the fact of the matter is, life is fabulous and amazing and really, really, really complicated and hard. And we just. Intuition will give you the shortest route. It's a wormhole, the shortest route between you and what you want, and it comes from outside of you. It's new information. And we all have access. And a miracle takes a moment. And we forget that we think we need to look inside and change our behaviors and do this and do. No. If you change how you walk to work by a block, you're already opening up a new door to new people, to new experiences. It literally takes a moment. And a tiny bit of sun will make your plants grow. Too much sun causes a drought and kills them. And we all think we need to make these massive changes. But actually, what I have found in teaching tens of thousands of people, not all celebrities, I have taught in homeless shelters is that we all have that capacity to create that miracle in a moment. But we need the right small move. And that's what's missing, is having someone give us that right little catalyst, that little extra bit of sun that will make us grow and not fry us.

Monica Lewinsky (29:10)

I've always thought of my intuition or experienced it as a whisper that comes through.

Laura Day (29:19)

It's a club. Intuition will club you until you make a change, and then it will bring in all kinds of crises, and it'll have you interface with the world in a way that you hear it, which is why it's smart to listen. It's the same reason we follow rules. Because if you don't, you're punished if you don't listen. Because what is intuition? Intuition is your subconscious knowing your future, trying to get you to perceive the data, to make a choice that's gonna allow you to thrive. Cause your subconscious job is actually to keep you alive.

Monica Lewinsky (29:58)

Right?

Laura Day (29:59)

And so it will put a disaster in your life, to make you change in a way that you will thrive.

Monica Lewinsky (30:07)

Right.

Laura Day (30:08)

You know, a lot of people use intuitives as therapists, and they're not. You know, the data doesn't give you the process, right? Doesn't hold you through the experience. It's not coaching. It's, if you do this, this will happen. If you do that, this will happen. This is what's coming up. If you do this, it will change. And they're data points, and they're not. They're not. You know, you need to deal with your sense of unworthiness. You know, it's not that. And I think it gets dressed up as that. You know, I think the scary part of intuition is a. We have a million monitors that we wear all the time to tell us how have we slept and what's our heart rate. And you are your own monitor. If something doesn't. One of your five senses, Some of us feel, some of us smell, see, hear. But if something's not right, that is the sensor you need to trust and not to lose touch with. It's not a feeling. There's a difference between a feeling, an emotion, and a data point. And the data point is you're about to leave for a meeting and just doesn't seem right. And if you take that to the next beat or call an intuitive friend and say, what's going on with this meeting? I'll tell you. And then you prepare, and you prepare in practical ways. You know, there's so much that goes on with. I go on Instagram and everyone who's Been out of neurology school for 10 minutes or out of therapy or psychiatry. So for 10 minutes has some kind of deep way for you to look into your trauma. Research shows that looking into trauma re. Traumatizes when you do something different, that trauma's gonna come up and you find tools to deal with it. Yeah.

Monica Lewinsky (31:57)

It's interesting. I found it very helpful. My therapy. My therapist is a trauma psychiatrist, and I think that there was a period of.

Laura Day (32:08)

It probably focuses on neurology. Yeah.

Monica Lewinsky (32:11)

And so I think that what was interesting. And she's also. She brings in a lot of different perspectives. Eastern medicine, I mean, a lot of different ways of looking at things. Parts therapy. And I think that what was interesting to me was as my life started to change publicly, so that I think, as people started to see me understand my true self a bit, that there were layers of history and trauma that I was shedding. And what that ended up doing was bringing up a lot of other things that had been hidden and masked because of the big trauma from 1998. Right. And in the course of that, what was interesting to me was there were a whole bunch of narratives that would start to come through, but without a lot of detail. And she felt, you know, she said, you don't need to know exactly what happened to you to move forward. It's really just absolutely. I think that's what you're saying is.

Laura Day (33:16)

And trauma therapists actually don't. They don't work with the story. They work with how the wiring, how the prism was damaged and continues to damage your life. Because it's not never the original trauma. It's how you re. Traumatize yourself now through changed behaviors and changed perceptions, that continues that injury. So it really is. You know, it's so much about wiring. And I think people are very disempowered by a lot of both technology and how information comes in from realizing that not only do you have the answer, although you may not have your answer, but I have your answer. You have my answer. We are useful to one another on a very essential level because of intuition. And that's where intuition is beautiful. I do these. Soho House has been very generous to me. Anywhere I go in the world, and I travel all the time. They give me a room, and they put up a little thing, and I do a free workshop. And in an hour, people who don't even believe in intuition, but, you know, they finish their martini, they have nothing to do between me and the disco at night. So they come by, they do amazing readings in an hour. You just have to give them the direction. And then the lesson there is, oh, wait. All the time I have known what someone else is thinking or what's happening in someone else's life, or what's happening in someone else's physiology, or what will happen to someone else. This wonderful journalist, her name is Danielle Lawlor and she did something for one of, like, the posh London magazines and she came to one of my Sohaus events in London and she sat with someone and, you know, she's a journalist, she's a critical thinker. And they were so shocked at how much information they got for each other completely. They didn't know each other, didn't know each other's lives, how detailed it was, and then how much of it happened precognitively, you know, they predicted that. They're still in touch. Oh, how interesting. They still read each other.

Monica Lewinsky (35:38)

I know you do a whole long workshop of what you're talking about, but, like, where does that start? If we were doing that here right

Laura Day (35:45)

now, where does that it start by? You know, I write down a goal and then I ask you, you know, to just notice where your attention goes. And, you know, you might let me think of one. So we can totally do this. I'm not going to tell you what the goal is, though, because it's private, because I actually want this. Okay.

Monica Lewinsky (36:07)

How do I close my eyes?

Laura Day (36:08)

No, no.

Monica Lewinsky (36:09)

Okay.

Laura Day (36:09)

Oh, I'm so glad you said that.

Monica Lewinsky (36:11)

Okay.

Laura Day (36:11)

There is no intuitive state. Your intuitive state is you cooking pasta, you on the toilet, you walking. Intuition's always a part of you. It's where your attention goes. And people who prepare with a state actually kill their intuition because their attention goes to preparing the state. So, for example, you don't close your eyes because, by the way, when you need your intuition is when you're being attacked in a meeting or when there's an opportunity in a meeting, on the road, in an argument. And there you're not going to go like this, right? You want to go to that place, you want to have the question ready. And learning to target, learning to ask the right question for everybody is really the first step in honing an intuitive skill. What is really the question? When will I be happy? Well, when you have a head injury, I mean, that's not a question, right? What are you actually asking? What is the actual target? Because. Because then when you refine that, you'll identify the data that comes in much more clearly. So when my students, I do something called boot camp, which is a training, and when they say Well, I see queen. I see love. Drink more water. First of all, drink more water. You've told me nothing I can prove. Why should I believe you? But also, those make no sense. And that's not actually how our information works. And I use C. We use our five senses. There is no. No sixth sense. It's your five senses moving around in time and space. So if we slow it down a little, and I. So I'm going to do. I'm going to have you do it. I'm going to ask. I'll do it for you in private. So I have the target. And it's always good to know that either you have a target, which you do by writing it down. And I like the exercise for those of you listening, of taking 10 index cards that are identical and writing 10 different targets.

Monica Lewinsky (38:06)

Okay.

Laura Day (38:07)

And then you have someone else put them in an envelope. You hold an envelope, and you write everything that comes.

Monica Lewinsky (38:13)

Okay. Just. Can you just go one layer deeper on what you mean by target?

Laura Day (38:20)

You know, what exactly is your question? So my question, will all my bags arrive in Rome safely on the 19th? Is this investment not a good one? Because then you have to define good. And the more you split attention, the less accurate you are. So is buying an apartment in France going to be profitable as an investment in the next 10 years? So I've really defined. Sometimes we can't define, but our information reflects that. So, for example, I work with. With four large companies. That's how I make my living, predicting the future. My first job, when they say, is this a good investment? Because yes and no doesn't have enough variables. We want a lot of variables. We don't want to know. We don't want to know what we're talking about. My first thing is I have to make a target out of it. So what are they really asking? Okay. My sense is that they have a lack of this industry in their portfolio. Is this going to be their strongest buy? And so, in a sense, you're doing a reading just to get the target.

Monica Lewinsky (39:33)

Okay.

Laura Day (39:34)

You pick a target. Do you have a very specific target?

Monica Lewinsky (39:40)

Oh, my God.

Laura Day (39:42)

And you're not gonna say what it is because that will skew your target. Okay. Do you have a target?

Monica Lewinsky (39:49)

Yes.

Laura Day (39:50)

Okay. The first thing I sense is it's almost a little hard for me to breathe into my chest. So I feel a lot of anxiety around that right now. And in order to move forward, to not feel the anxiety. Oh, it's interesting. I get a sense that something crystallized in February around this. Although didn't resolve. And I move forward, and I move forward, and I move forward, and I move into the summer and. And around July, all of a sudden, I'm feeling a very important connection. And I'm seeing a water. And maybe I'm seeing, like, big body of water around where this happens, not as some symbol for something. So you just report everything you say. You know, I'm seeing an interesting thing where something comes back to you around that time, but also something new. And it's going to be a very interesting time of choice. This is going to begin, I think, around the middle of June. And I see these two competing situations. One you thought you hoped for and wanted, but then there's something new that is much more viable. I don't give advice. That's not what intuition is. But I think you're gonna know what the right move is. And I think the challenge is gonna be to not make the wrong one, which will be really tempting. And you'll begin to know what that wrong one is as soon as May. And I think you know about it. I think there's some occasion or there's something you would know. I think now where there is going to be a connect in May around this. It's interesting because this is, you know, this is not what you need to resolve for things to move forward, however, because I think sometimes a whole other really exciting thing is happening over here that has nothing to do with this question, which is really helpful for you because it gives a structure to something that otherwise would become a little fanciful. Okay. So anyway, I could go on for hours and hours and hours and hours. And I'm trying to. To be vague enough, but enough that you understand what I'm saying, but vague enough that nobody else does, which is the trick of a public reading.

Monica Lewinsky (42:41)

Yes, of course.

Laura Day (42:44)

And all I'm doing is following my attention. What's my attention? It's my five senses. So initially I felt it was, like, a little hard to breathe. Now, most people would say, oh, this is me. Like, I didn't notice that I had some anxiety here and that I was like, like. But I know now I'm reading. If I weren't reading, it would be about me, but it's about you. And then I notice where I am in time, and then I move. Then I saw February. I thought it was next February, but then I realized, no, no, no, no, no. It's something that kind of sparked this. So I just. I just notice and I don't reason it. It doesn't make sense to me. I Don't know. I have no idea what I'm talking about. But if someone takes notes. So what my companies do, and I've had two of them for over 30 years. Two of them have retired. So I've onboarded two new ones, and I only take four at a time. So I wait till one ends to take another. They have basically, I guess it's not books. I guess it's on computer. But they take and they check it off as I. If I make a mistake, believe me, they let me know, which is also very helpful. But it's. And it's the way I know that I'm psychic and not psychotic. And that's why I work with companies. For that reason. I also work with companies because. Because my boot campers, I am coaching, which means I'm also reading them as they're learning to read. So they're owning that power in themselves, and I'm helping them with my own ability. But I think that the difficulty with intuition in kind of the popular market is your intuitive is not a doctor. My pro bono work is working on new drugs and working with doctors with their patients. But I would never say to a person, I might say I go get a blood test just for the heck of it when I see something, but I would never say to somebody, you have or do this, because practicing medicine without a license, I think still, even under this administration, is a felony. And it's not. You want for your client the best, right?

Monica Lewinsky (45:09)

I have a question. So have you ever found yourself with your four client companies, have you ever found yourself that there's conflict between what you see, like there's a crossover of somehow something that you might see or information that you're giving to one company is then detrimental to another?

Laura Day (45:30)

No, because that's why I work with four completely different industries that have. Absolutely. And I also have no memory. I mean, that's. You know, I had a neuropsych eval 10 years ago because I thought at my age, if I don't know what year it is, they're gonna think dementia and not add. But I was that way at 11.

Monica Lewinsky (45:49)

Right.

Laura Day (45:50)

So between the fact that I don't remember anything, I don't usually. I don't know what I'm talking about. You know, my clients don't call me and say, well, we're having a negotiation with blah, blah, blah, and what do you think is gonna happen? They say, what's gonna happen? That is the question. So I have no idea what I'm talking about. So, for example, yesterday a Client called me and said, gave me a company name and these are companies that aren't public yet. And I just, they said, do you think this is a good company? And I said, well, you know, this is what they do like. So I give first data to prove that I hit my target. Not just prove it to them, but prove it to me because I don't know what I'm talking about. I have no way of checking information. And when you train people in intuition, the hardest thing is to get them to not check out their information in the usual ways. Same thing with changing behavior. A lot of times when I do an intensive, someone will say, well, that doesn't resonate with me. And I'm like, yeah, because the problem resonates with you, the solution won't.

Monica Lewinsky (46:59)

You know, I think it was just interesting to me that you know, with the company work and that you had been given this sort of the psychic of Wall street, right, of having seen 2008 coming, right, the 2008 financial coming.

Laura Day (47:12)

And that was due to an accident by the way, because I never predict publicly because a what if I'm wrong and some pensioner puts all their money on my prediction? Like that's one of the reasons I don't to want work with civilians as I don't want that responsibility. You know, I work with people who run billion dollar companies. They are so much more skilled than I am. If I make a mistake, it's their mistake.

Monica Lewinsky (47:33)

Right.

Laura Day (47:33)

You know, if I make a mistake with a human, it's my like, it's heartbreaking. But, but I, I was tired and so by accident on an Irish radio show. And I also thought, well, it's an Irish radio show, who's going to listen to it? I mean, you know, Irish people will, but nobody in my milieu is going to. But I got sloppy and he was so charming in that adorable accent and I made the prediction on air by accident. I slipped and then once the cat is out, you can't put it back in. And so normally I would make a prediction like that and nobody would know about it except my companies and my broker because I sold all my stocks after that radio show. But it became very public and, and actually I only take one Wall street client because I can only take one client from each industry.

Monica Lewinsky (48:26)

Yeah, do you look at that sort of what you're calling a slip up because you retired now. And do you think that there actually was the benefit that, that had a,

Laura Day (48:36)

there was a synchronicity? I mean, I am as you know, because I mean I guess, luckily for me, there's been a lot of interest in how my brain works by groups that have tested me. I know that, for example, I'm as introverted as you get on the Myers Briggs scale. And so anything public for me is always a mistake. It's always a synchronic. Not a mistake, a synchronicity, putting me out there. And at the time that I made that prediction, I really did not want to be out there. It was actually a very difficult time in my life, and I really didn't want to be out there.

Monica Lewinsky (49:19)

What was going on, if you felt comfortable.

Laura Day (49:21)

Yeah, yeah. I was realizing that a relationship had run its course, and I was also just exhausted. You know, there was too much going on, too many fronts. But also, you know, we don't see what we don't see. And that was a year where I hadn't seen a lot. And then all of a sudden I saw it, and I was like, okay, how do I not. How do I unsee this?

Monica Lewinsky (49:50)

Now, when you learn that one, teach me, please.

Laura Day (49:54)

Right? You know, how do I unsee this? How can I repress this again? And I just. By nature, I had the only press contracts in the book industry that had. That had clauses that I didn't have to do any press.

Monica Lewinsky (50:08)

Right.

Laura Day (50:09)

Demi dragged me onto Oprah, which I'm so grateful both to her and OPRAH for in 1996. And Diane Sawyer is the most lovely human on earth, and Mark Roberts and her producer. So that was always easy. I mean, literally, Mark would carry me to the show, you know, and give me my coffee and wrap me up and, you know, but, you know, I really. I'm an introvert, and that made me become part of the world. And that was wonderful. Not just because of work. It was wonderful because I was about to leave a relationship unbeknownst to me. And it put me in a world that was different, you know, because I stayed as an introvert. I liked my own four walls. Same four walls I had always had. I live in the same apartment I lived in at 23, both here and in Rome. That's how much I like change. I now am changing my slipcovers. At 30 years old, I met my husband because I went out of that comfort zone.

Monica Lewinsky (51:10)

And didn't you. Is that when you sort of created. Really reflecting what you were just saying a few minutes ago about what resonates? You know, if it resonates, it's because it's familiar. Not so much that it's a good match, but that the. That you need to go on three dates with somebody and kiss them.

Laura Day (51:28)

Well, no. What I asked because I knew I didn't know how to do this right. So I asked two girlfriends of mine who had had successful, who had successful marriages, long successful marriages, to set me up with men. And those are the only men I dated. And they gave me rules because I had no, I mean, obviously mine didn't work. They gave me rules. And the rules were you have to go in three days and if you can stomach it, you have to force one kiss if the person's willing to kiss you. Not everyone wanted three dates with me or a kiss. So I did the three date, one kiss. And when I first met my husband, I mean, he had no deep seated rage. He had good family relations. There were no interesting dark tangles. He was employed, which is still inconvenient. I mean, there were so many things going against him. I was just not interested. And he was so calm and rational and, you know, he just wasn't interesting. And I went on the second date and I went on the third date and on the third date, because he was going to be a girlfriend or I wasn't going to see him again, I had that one kiss. And we'd been married 14 years.

Monica Lewinsky (52:40)

Oh my God.

Laura Day (52:40)

We've been together 14 years. I think we've been married twice. Hopefully he doesn't hear this and realize I don't remember how long we've been

Monica Lewinsky (52:47)

married, but I'm, we can edit it.

Laura Day (52:49)

I'm very happy I married him.

Monica Lewinsky (52:51)

Yes.

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Laura Day (55:30)

don't have to be weird. I am weird. I'm a psychic, for God's sake.

Monica Lewinsky (55:34)

But I was thinking about, okay, if you and I had met, I just gotten out, this would have been almost 30 years ago. I just graduated college. I said to you, I'm on my way to Washington D.C. to do an internship at the White House. If you had stuff coming in about what was about to happen to me, would you have felt you ethically needed to tell me no or wouldn't if you were, because I needed that to happen?

Laura Day (56:06)

If you were no, I don't believe that. I always think there's an easier way. And what happened to you was. You know, it's funny, you're one of the few people I remember because even at the time I thought, wow, this is so unfair. Like, this is so not okay. And thank you. You know, it had such an impression. I have no memory. And I remembered that I don't remember the details of it or the time or whatever.

Monica Lewinsky (56:27)

We'll just leave it that way.

Laura Day (56:28)

Yes. But I remember I had such a sense of outrage and I don't follow the news at all. And I also don't remember I had such a sense of outrage that it remained with me. So you had a champion even before. But no, unless someone is a student. My students find me very intrusive but they're also very grateful for it most of the time. But unless you're a student or a client, I have learned to keep my mouth shut. There are rare times where at a party I'll see that someone will come up to me and we'll get an intimate conversation and I'll see. Or in a gathering, I'll see something and I'll say, you know, I'd like to share something with you. But I do it very vaguely and very carefully, especially if it's a physical thing. I'll do it very carefully and I won't again. I don't do medical information, but I'm like, wow, have you had a chest X ray lately? Because my doctor really recommended it because I find a way to do it in a social way. But no, I don't feel like I'm Guhu Maharaji Day. I'm someone with a weird brain who can get too much information that I hope is always accurate, but every once in a while it's not. And I don't feel that I have permission to barge into people's lives. Although I will say, honestly, if you ask my husband, I'm very intrusive if you do sit down with me. It's almost. I can't help myself.

Monica Lewinsky (58:10)

Right. But I just, I think it was, I just was thinking about, it's like,

Laura Day (58:17)

do you need permission to do a reading? And that's a question students ask. And I say, well, you're reading all the time without permission, so that's completely up to you. If you need to have that artifice to do great.

Monica Lewinsky (58:30)

Well, I just, I think too there's the, there's something. Okay, so like the financial crisis that has such a big impact and I think in.

Laura Day (58:39)

I could be wrong. I always assume I'm wrong. That's why I love working for these companies that track how accurate I am because they'll fire me if I'm wrong.

Monica Lewinsky (58:49)

Will you ever publish those, do you think, like a version of. Because I think it would be so interesting to see.

Laura Day (58:56)

So here is what. Oh, you mean publish the predictions? They have them. I don't have them.

Monica Lewinsky (59:00)

No, no, I know, but I just like it anonymous.

Laura Day (59:04)

They're publicly traded companies. They will definitely never publish it. And actually around 2008, 2009, in an article, a couple companies that I had worked for came out of the closet and I told them not to, but they were grateful and they were generous, really generous and it was not good for them. So now I exchange non disclosure agreements because I don't even want their general. Because it's my job as a professional to be an advocate for my students, for the companies I work for. If I lecture, for the people, I'm like, it's my job to be an advocate. If I want something, I'll ask for it. So I'll ask a celebrity. I won't ask companies because they're publicly traded. It could damage it. But I'll ask someone, hey, would you post me? Would you do this for me? Would you write a quote for me? You know, I'll ask somebody to do that, but I do it very, very directly. And I'm really careful. And I love taking no for an answer. And I really. I'm so careful how I do that. Because actually, you know, especially for a company, my use is that their consultants are in their prism, have the same block. I can tell them what will happen. That's outside of that, but it makes them look stronger. It helps their image. If they're using a psychic, which is, by the way, much more accepted now, that doesn't help. And it's a real ethical question. So I have no ethics around can I do a healing without the person knowing, or can I read someone without. You're doing that all the time. You're. Your subconscious is reaching out, is looking, is doing that all the time. But where I am careful is where is it my job to serve, and where is it someone's job to serve me? So my therapist serves me. Every once in a while, I slip and serve them because I see something that's going on. One of the things that I've been doing that I love, I go on Instagram almost every day and have people do readings for each other without even knowing who the other person is.

Monica Lewinsky (61:20)

Okay.

Laura Day (61:20)

And one of the things that I've been doing that came to me in using the prism is doing these activations on YouTube, and I forget what my YouTube is. Lara Day Circle, I think. And they're just things that engage your intuition, give you a behavior and solve a problem. And they're just literally activations. It's like flipping a switch. So I'm so excited to see how people experience that.

Monica Lewinsky (61:45)

Oh, I'm gonna check it out for sure. So the question I ask everybody at the end is if there's anything you are currently working on reclaiming. And we use a very elastic definition here, so it can be, you know, a place or an emotion, hobby.

Laura Day (62:04)

You know, I realized last year I'm a really good caretaker, and I love caretaking. I mean, that's really what I get my identity for self solving people's problems and making things good for them. And when my husband's out of town, unless I go out or someone comes to my house for dinner, I completely forget to eat until he comes back.

Monica Lewinsky (62:23)

Oh, my gosh.

Laura Day (62:24)

And I realized that what I need to do is be a human being. You know, not love me. Cause that whole love for yourself. There are lots about me that's not that lovable that I'm working on. So it's not loving me. It's about actually considering me doing something for pleasure because it pleasures me, not because it's something to share. So, like the prism is the book for me. I'm working on being an I. Having an identity separate and apart from my interface with other people or with the world. Because I really do. You know, the joke about me is you leave me in a corner of a couch, you come back a year later, I'm in the same corner in my happy place. I want to be alive before this life is over. So I'm trying very hard to be mindfully present and comfortably present.

Monica Lewinsky (63:19)

I love that. That's really beautiful. Thank you, Laura.

Laura Day (63:23)

Thank you. Oh, I'm so glad this happen, Sam.