Reclaiming with Monica Lewinsky
Episode Summary: Mark Duplass
Release Date: September 16, 2025
Main Theme & Purpose
This episode of Reclaiming with Monica Lewinsky features writer-director-actor Mark Duplass for an open, deeply self-aware conversation about mental health, creativity, vulnerability, and the ongoing journey of "reclaiming" personal identity. Mark and Monica explore their respective experiences with anxiety, depression, and public scrutiny, offering practical insights, hard-earned wisdom, and plenty of compassionate humor.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. The Unexpected Power of Vulnerability & Online Connection (04:10–04:39)
- Monica expresses extra nerves about the interview, opening the conversation with vulnerability.
- Mark reflects on their origin as “internet friends,” noting that social media, for all its problems, created a meaningful connection between them.
“It allowed us a way to reach out to each other. So maybe it is. ...I find it always a little strange that I feel like I know you, but this is the first time I’m in the same room with you.”
— Mark Duplass (04:39)
2. Living with Depression & Anxiety: The "Woog" (05:06–13:22)
- Mark shares how unpredictable his mental health can feel, regardless of external circumstances:
- Sometimes, all systems are “perfect,” but depression still strikes.
- He copes by returning to basic mantras and body scans.
“I just tell myself two words. Relax, enjoy.”
— Mark Duplass (06:54)
- Monica and Mark discuss coping mantras (“relax, centered and expansive”), and Monica introduces somatic work for trauma.
- Mark describes his made-up word “the woog” as a catch-all for his depression and anxiety, which have been present since childhood.
- Both share funny but revealing family stories about inventing words as private language.
3. Family, Upbringing & The Stigma of Mental Health (13:22–18:36)
- Mark contextualizes his mental health struggles in his Southern upbringing—supportive, but lacking in language and tools for mental health.
- He reflects on the perils and power of willpower; his ability to “push through” ultimately led to physical breakdown and a major career pivot from music to filmmaking.
“As a Southern raised male with full confidence, no shame. That's the difference in yours and my path. I did not have that shame ... But because of that, I put so much pressure on myself to power through that it started to manifest in my body.”
— Mark Duplass (13:57)
4. Crisis, Medication, and Getting Help (18:36–26:17)
- Mark details his “nervous breakdown” in his late 20s, while career success masked mounting mental health issues.
- With warmth and humor, he describes being gently referred to therapy and antidepressants by an 80-year-old doctor, Murray Hykeman.
“I would love to say eventually I transcended my fear about all of that. But the truth was, I was just desperate. And I was like, I can't live like this, so I'm gonna have to try something.”
— Mark Duplass (23:34)
- Discussion on therapy as a "dating game" to find the right fit and demystifying the medication process.
5. Destigmatizing Mental Health—Using Platforms for Good (26:17–33:14)
- Mark recounts posting about his mental health struggles on Instagram, surprised by the outpouring.
- Monica notes the disconnect between public perception and private suffering, stressing the privilege and responsibility of using public voice for honesty.
“Anyone who has 386 followers and they go on a vacation and they post the best eight pictures of their vacation... someone thinks you're cooler, they feel bad about themselves.”
— Mark Duplass (28:38)
6. The Value of Facing Down “The Fear of the Fear” (36:42–39:17)
- Both talk candidly about suicidal ideation, the process of “surviving” the worst depressive periods, and how each episode of hardship subtly raises resilience.
“The bottom floor raises itself every time you come through a cycle...”
— Mark Duplass (37:13)
7. Accepting Our Limits & The Detective Trap (38:14–39:37)
- They examine the perennial “detective work” of those living with anxiety/depression—trying to pin down causes vs. learning to accept its mysterious recurrence.
8. The Struggle to Feel Pride and Joy (39:19–42:08)
- Monica voices difficulty in genuinely feeling proud of her achievements—a challenge Mark validates by highlighting her journey.
“If all you did after that was get up and get a job at Starbucks and watch TV at night to cope, you should be really proud of yourself if that was all you did—and then you've done this.”
— Mark Duplass (40:49)
9. Practical Systems & Daily Management (43:12–45:25)
- Mark emphasizes the basics: sleep, exercise, small daily gratitude rituals, medication consistency, and managing pharmaceutical variability.
- He points out the urge to make “tectonic shifts” when feeling bad, though usually the answer lies in small adjustments or routine.
10. Boundaries, Scheduling, and “Soul Points” (46:12–48:59)
- Monica reflects on over-scheduling and the need to accept personal limits, especially related to media and talks.
- Mark discusses “Soul Points”—his metaphor and nonprofit concept about emotional reserves.
“I have to be careful what I choose to make... I create a folder on my computer: these are the things I'm excited about doing. If I’m still so incredibly excited after a month, then you can go get it. And 98% of those ideas die there.”
— Mark Duplass (48:59)
11. Reclaiming Creative Joy and Artistic Freedom (50:44–54:36)
- Mark describes the “Room 104” experiment at HBO: an ecosystem created to nourish creative careers and diverse voices, with generous profit participation.
- Profound value placed on creative risk-taking, lifting up new talent, and making art amid structural industry problems.
12. TV Industry Realities & The Morning Show (55:02–58:20)
- Mark gives a behind-the-scenes look at his evolving role on “The Morning Show,” balancing artistic satisfaction, vulnerability, and financial realities in a changing industry.
- Praises the leadership of Reese Witherspoon & Jennifer Aniston for cultivating a rare, kind, and conflict-free environment.
13. Integrating Personal and Creative Growth (58:20–61:55)
- Mark articulates how his mental health journey "bleeds into everything," shaping both character interpretation and his presence as a creative leader.
- Discusses how performing as “Chip” has deepened his own self-examination of complicity and ethical complexity.
“Now [vulnerability] is front and center with me. That is almost subconsciously seeps in... That is vulnerability. 100%.”
— Mark Duplass (59:42)“I remember through playing Chip, being willing to look more at myself and my own complicity...”
— Mark Duplass (61:22)
14. What Mark is Reclaiming: The Lost Musician (62:13–64:49)
- Mark reveals he is trying to “reclaim” a part of himself—the passionate but frustrated musician. He wrestles with ways to include music in his life again without letting perfectionism or old wounds hold sway.
“What I do need to reclaim is this ghost of a musician who lives inside me... I need to figure out how to live with him and make him a part of my life in a way that doesn’t overtake me. And I don’t even know what that looks like.”
— Mark Duplass (63:54)
Notable Quotes & Moments
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On depression’s unpredictability:
“There can be times in my life where I am stressed and overworked and underslept and I'm doing okay... Then there can be times when I'm at my best. ...and then I wake up and I hit the deck. I don't know why.”
— Mark Duplass (05:06) -
On medication and stigma:
"I was so resistant. ...all these things that I was identifying as a man—would it harm my creativity, my libido? ...but the truth was, I was just desperate."
— Mark Duplass (22:03, 23:34) -
On sharing struggles online:
“The outpouring of people, not only support, which was lovely, but people finding a platform where they could talk about it. It was quite shocking to me.” — Mark Duplass (27:11)
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On public vulnerability:
“When I start to hear...after my TED Talk...a guy came up who told me, you know, he had been diagnosed HIV positive and that hit the talk had helped him there...you start to really realize the privilege of being able to help ease someone else's suffering by being vulnerable and being open.”
— Monica Lewinsky (31:29) -
On learning from breakdown:
“That first breakdown I had at 28, it took me about a month to pull myself out...Now, I'm not only more quick to catch the signals so that I don't drop as far, but I don't drop as far even when it happens because I know I have the skill sets.”
— Mark Duplass (37:18)
Timestamps for Important Segments
- 04:10–06:49 – Mental health routines, “catching the buzz,” and body scan practice
- 08:16–13:22 – Mark defines “the woog”; family language and early signs of depression
- 18:36–26:17 – Mark’s nervous breakdown, seeking help, medication journey
- 28:38–31:29 – Social media’s impact on vulnerability, public sharing
- 39:35–42:08 – Monica on difficulty with pride; Mark’s validation
- 43:12–45:25 – Mark’s daily systems and non-negotiables for well-being
- 48:59–50:44 – “Soul Points”, creative limits, and permission for creative “dates”
- 51:00–54:23 – The unique creative empowerment of “Room 104”
- 55:02–58:20 – Behind the scenes at “The Morning Show”; creative evolution
- 58:20–61:55 – Integrating vulnerability into creativity & learning from characters
- 62:13–66:24 – Reclaiming the unfulfilled creative self: music and imperfection
Tone & Feel
The conversation is candid, humorous, often self-deprecating, and suffused with empathy. Mark and Monica never shy away from darker territory, but always get there with warmth and relatability, weaving in quirky family anecdotes and gentle, practical advice.
Final Reflections
This episode is a genuine, illuminating discussion of the messy work of reclaiming oneself—be it through mental health recovery, creative risk-taking, or learning to show up imperfectly in public and private life. Mark and Monica model what it means to be “publicly self-aware,” offering validation and companionship for anyone navigating similar journeys.