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A
Like I said, he's. I don't agree with any, like, anything really about him, but I find his, like, autistic affect funny.
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B
Huh.
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A
And I think he is. His celebrity is organic, which is more you can say than you can say about, like, Odessa A. Zion.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Any of these other, like, people. People.
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B
Well, she's Pamela Adlon's daughter. I didn't. Didn't know that. You know, like, the longtime Collaborator of Louis C.K. oh, yeah. Her name is Odessa Adlon. Oh, yeah. So she's like a Nepo baby.
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A
Okay.
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B
Yeah.
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A
But she, you know, like, a lot of these young celebs feel astroturfed and at least feels like I'm like. Yeah. I mean, yeah, it's like whatever.
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B
Somber Gracie. Whatever the. Her name is.
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A
Who?
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B
Somber musicians. Yeah.
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A
But, yeah.
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B
What's interesting about, like, looks maxing is this idea that, like, you don't have to be, you know, explicitly, avowedly right wing if you're committed to being attractive and fit, because that, on its own, is already implicitly right wing coded. That's the. That's the grain of truth to me, because the. This is like a reaction to.
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A
The.
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B
Left, which has made being attractive and fit, like, presumptively illegal.
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A
Sure.
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B
Like, you are frowned upon and criticized if you care about your appearance in.
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A
Theory, but not really in practice. That's why it's the black. You know, that's ultimately, like, people do treat attractive people much better.
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B
It, like, opens doors. It makes your life easier.
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A
Yeah.
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B
But it's logical to.
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A
I wish I had look looks, Max, when I was younger and less scrupulous.
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B
I know you've said this before, and I have, like, the same feeling, I guess, like, I did not think to look smacks at all through, like, the prime years of my life, like, my 20s and early 30s. And I regret it a little bit, but, like, not that much, ultimately, because then things turned out well, I think, had they not turned out well.
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A
Could have turned out better, though, if you had looked smacked.
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B
Well, could they have? I mean, that's the thing. Like, you think about somebody like this kid, clavicular. Like, what's going to become of him? I mean, he's going to get even more famous and wealthy for sure, for the time being. But. Well, where does he go from here? He doesn't want to be like, a soy like Brian Johnson.
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A
I think he'll plateau, and then maybe. I just don't. I don't know how much longevity he'll really have. But that's also why looks maxing, I think is a distinctly male phenomenon because women, especially when they're younger, don't. There's not as much of an incentive to looks, Max. Because just by virtue of being pretty relatively attractive, you'll get most of the perks. That. And for women, I think past a point. There's even like diminishing returns. If you're too attractive, then people don't take you seriously. Da da. You know.
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B
Yeah. And it. It also. I saw.
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A
But for men there's really no downside to being. It's like a zoom. If you're a young man.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And you can't really get a job.
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B
Yeah. You have no. You're living in your mother's basement. You may as well looks, Max.
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A
It really follows that that would be like the best thing that if you were in clavicular's position. That's. And he's probably been medicated since he was like a child too. He's like on meth. He's all like very right brained and autistic. Yeah. I think he's crunched the numbers and he is like doing the most advantageous thing for him.
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B
Yeah. For sure. Yeah.