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A (0:00)
I mean he expresses a kind of like good humored disgust. Normal. And does like affirm that he feels something is wrong. But he doesn't. Yeah, but I, I'm gonna, He doesn't take like a moral stance exactly right. And I think yeah, like unemployment Covid.
B (0:31)
All these like social ills, all these.
A (0:34)
Structural problems have like contributed the ubiquity of pornography, obviously technology. It's all, they're all like converging. But what I found lacking was.
B (0:46)
Like.
A (0:47)
There'S an issue of will. Like to quote my father, you know, some people permit themselves way too much. Well yeah. And there is like a moral issue where I think, I think people aren't even. No one even wants to think that jacking off is wrong. No one will eat like that. But which it is.
B (1:08)
Right.
A (1:08)
You should try not to. It's definitely like not good for you. Trad Cathman was a sin. No, I mean I, I, and that's broadly. But I think like, and I'm not on a high horse here.
B (1:21)
No, I agree with struggle totally. But I think that it, he, this is, it's almost like a return to form among liberal journalists because you're right, he doesn't load it with any like which he doesn't need to, but moral judgment. And that's actually good because it allows then people like us to come up with our own moral judgments. And so like all liberal journalists basically just like fray everything, inject their own moral judgment into everything now which you know, renders the field of journalism null and void. It's like cool how he's kind of like trying to be like impartial and indifferent, but also has like a meta commentary about how his own like psychic state and personal attitudes like change is well written, great essay but yeah. And of course like he comes to.
A (2:16)
This very like.
B (2:20)
Obvious but not so obvious conclusion in that like on one hand the act of gooning is incidental to the fact that the. We're talking about young men who have no prospects but who live in a relatively safe and comfortable society. And on the other hand, when you have no prospects and you live in a fairly safe and comfortable society, it is sort of inevitable that you turn.
A (2:49)
To gooning decadence of some. There's a good point where he's kind of like we're all kind of gooning if you think about it. Which resonated, you know, you're oh, I'll read that quote.