Sloppy Rooftoppy

Summary

Red Scare Podcast: "Sloppy Rooftoppy"

Date: July 5, 2026
Hosts: Anna Khachiyan (A) & Dasha Nekrasova (B)

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Episode Overview

In this characteristically rambling and incisive holiday episode, Anna and Dasha catch up on a sweltering 4th of July weekend, blending bleak humor and cultural critique. The discussion swings from digestive woes and sunburns in Spain to the Taylor Swift–Travis Kelce “lavender” wedding, the viral Russian “rooftopping” couple, Zoran Momdani’s “bummer” July 4th speech, and Catholic splinter groups. Throughout, the hosts dissect online discourse and personal aesthetics with the pod’s signature blend of irony and intimacy.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Chaotic Catch-ups and Expat Alienation

Timestamps: 00:25–04:00

• Anna and Dasha open with 4th of July greetings (“Happy America’s 250th birthday”), discuss the absence of BBQ plans, and commiserate about the oppressive heat.
• Anna is stuck in Spain and losing weight due to repeated foodborne illnesses:
  • “I’m actually losing weight because I keep getting foodborne illnesses.” — Anna (01:00)
  • Dasha wonders, “Do you think that you have norovirus or heat stroke?” (01:04)
• Both express a sense of alienation from the American holiday, especially while overseas:
  • “No, I feel remote and alienated. If I was there, maybe I’d feel... I mean, 250 seems good.” — Anna (03:51)
• The physical discomfort segues into ruminations on travel, aging, and sunburns:
  • “I’m taking the short term gains of being tan, but I’m obliterating my collagen.” — Anna (01:31)
  • “It looks like you did, like, a TikTok tutorial… sunburnt girl.” — Dasha (02:05)

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2. Pandemic Paranoia & Nostradamus Moments

Timestamps: 04:01–05:29

• Dasha jokes about a New York Post headline regarding a “parasite that gives explosive diarrhea,” connecting it to AIDS conspiracy research.
  • “In it [Randy Schultz’s book], he speculates… AIDS came to US shores on the bicentennial… 1976.” — Dasha (04:31)
  • Anna calls it “the 50th anniversary of AIDS,” playing with the paranoid tone.
• The hosts’ blend of morbidity and humor sets the stage for more bleak cultural commentary.

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3. Davy Chase’s Tragic Decline

Timestamps: 05:29–08:27

• The conversation shifts to actress Davy Chase’s death:
  • “She walked away from it all to be an addict on skid row with her boyfriend. Yeah. Based. I wish.” — Dasha (08:03)
• Anna describes it as “not dishonorable, honestly, in this day and age,” sparking a comparison to more “dishonorable” literary pursuits.
• “There are sadder fates, unfortunately.” — Anna (08:23)

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4. Taylor Swift & Travis Kelce’s “Lavender” MSG Wedding

Timestamps: 08:38–17:36

• Anna and Dasha deconstruct the highly publicized Taylor Swift & Travis Kelce wedding at Madison Square Garden, finding it both cynical and bizarrely asexual.
  • “They did a whole, like, light lavender haze, which I guess is a Taylor Swift song… It’s just a lavender wedding.” — Anna (08:54)
  • “They both seem gay.” — Anna (09:21)
  • “He definitely seems like a bulky dyke.” — Anna (09:28)
  • Dasha jokes, “He’s a tight end. I just learned today that his position… means he’s a gay.” (09:31)
• They note the lack of bridesmaids, Adam Sandler officiating, and the parasocial hysteria among Swifties:
  • “She always has to do the worst, most cynical gay nerd, greedy, evil, evil thing.” — Anna (11:56)
• Commentary on the exploitation of the fan base and taxpayer-funded security:
  • “Her brand and persona is exploiting the parasocial bond people feel with her.” — Anna (12:36)
  • “Hasan Piker accuses her of tastelessly… exploiting the taxpayer.” — Dasha (12:45)
• Critique of influencer and young male “gay, low IQ” fashion trends:
  • “They dress like gay guys before the AIDS crisis hit.” — Dasha (15:29)

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5. Betting on Trump’s 4th of July Speech

Timestamps: 16:00–17:16

• Anna discusses gambling on whether Trump will say “Founding Fathers” in his Mount Rushmore speech.
  • “The probability is apparently very low. I stand to win big if he says it… That would be a nice dopamine hit for me, and you know, I need it.” (16:37)

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6. Russian “Rooftopping” Couple: Real Romance or Low IQ Stunt?

Timestamps: 17:36–26:43

• The viral Russian couple (Angelina Nicolau & Ivan Kuznetsov) scaling the Empire State Building become the pod’s folk heroes:
  • “They’ve become kind of the real folk heroes.” — Anna (17:50)
  • Dissection of their circus-like, carny, erotic parkour aesthetic:
    • “Not exactly that, but basically, yeah. It’s like erotic parkour.” — Dasha (18:25)
• Endearing details and the underlying low-IQ take, shown in couple’s video bickering atop the building:
  • “She’s like, why are we doing this if it’s not gonna be perfect?” — Dasha (19:41)
• Public’s overwhelmingly positive—even envious—response, paired with hosts’ contrarian cynicism:
  • “They’re clearly, like, promoting their joint brand… but who’s to say scaling the Empire State Building is romantic?” — Dasha (21:44)
  • “To me, it’s like they clearly are probably sub-100 IQ, but just barely together. Together they break a hundred.” — Anna (22:29)
• Reflection on Russian fatalism:
  • “They love daring feats of, like, urban mountaineering because they understand that, like, no lives matter.” — Dasha (32:11)
• Digression into genetics, AIDS immunity, and “race realism” in Russians:
  • “Some, like, Northern Russians… are more immune to AIDS…if you have both pairs of some gene or something, you’re totally immune to it.” — Dasha (33:00)

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7. Zoran Momdani’s NYC 4th of July Speech—Winning by Losing

Timestamps: 34:48–45:00

• Dasha recaps Zoran Momdani’s short, “bummer” speech reframing the founding of America as just another moment in a lineage of immigrants:
  • “In his retelling, these white Anglo settlers… were not so much the founding Fathers as just another group of immigrants…” — Dasha (38:50)
  • “Our country, it’s like, it’s not your country, dude. You came here like 15 years ago and applied for citizenship like seven years ago.” — Dasha (41:55)
• The hosts express skepticism about this narrative and annoyance with his divisive tone.
  • “Honestly, I think we should celebrate being with someone even if you don’t love them also.” — Anna on the limits of idealized love, responding to Lindy Man (30:41)

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8. Inside Catholic Schisms: SSPX Excommunication & Trad Trends

Timestamps: 45:00–50:47

• Dasha explains the excommunication of SSPX:
  • “They’re a kind of ultra-conservative splinter group within Catholicism that practices the Latin Mass. And they were excommunicated… because they ordained some bishops without papal approval…” — Dasha (46:32)
• Ramble through the quirks of set of vacantis, the trad surge, and Catholic group chats, with jokes about Mel Gibson’s status as a “set of probationist.”

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9. All About “Hip Dips” & Online Aesthetic Rage Bait

Timestamps: 50:47–55:53

• Anna and Dasha talk body image, focusing on the “hip dips” meme:
  • “Even as a pretty… highly aesthetically observant person, this is not something that I’ve ever thought about…” — Dasha (51:08)
• Dissection of how these beauty micro-anxieties circulate online and act as bait to provoke women into self-objectifying debate.
  • “It just makes people, i.e. women, think too much about themselves, which is bad.” — Dasha (55:14)
• Jokes about anatomical preferences, dealbreakers, and the true meaning of online discourse:
  • “You know what’s an absolute dealbreaker for me is attached earlobes.” — Dasha (56:04)
  • “I like things that most people don’t think to think about but probably subliminally notice, like wrists, clavicles, that sort of thing.” — Dasha (56:39)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On American patriotism abroad:

  • “No, I feel remote and alienated. If I was there, maybe I’d feel… I mean, 250 seems good.” — Anna (03:51)

• On Russian rooftoppers:

  • “It’s like erotic parkour. They’re like circus freaks and carnies. It’s like in their blood.” — Dasha (18:25)
  • “They love daring feats of, like, urban mountaineering because they understand that, like, no lives matter.” — Dasha (32:11)

• On Taylor Swift’s wedding:

  • “It’s just a lavender wedding. Like you’re just admitting it.” — Anna (09:05)
  • “She always has to do the worst, most cynical gay nerd, greedy, evil, evil thing.” — Anna (11:56)
  • “Her brand and persona is, like, exploiting the parasocial bond people feel with her.” — Anna (12:36)

• On political discourse:

  • “He reframes American exceptionalism as belonging to the hard work of immigrants… The truth, my friends, is that America is exceptional because here nothing is fixed into place.” — Dasha summarizing Zoran Momdani (38:50)
  • “Our country, it’s like, it’s not your country, dude. You came here like 15 years ago.” — Dasha (41:55)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:25–04:00 – Holiday greetings, alienation, and catching up
• 04:01–05:29 – Parasite panic and AIDS conspiracy theorizing
• 05:29–08:27 – Davy Chase, the tragic ‘90s child star
• 08:38–17:36 – Taylor Swift & Travis Kelce’s wedding
• 17:36–26:43 – Russian rooftopping couple and viral spectacle
• 34:48–45:00 – Zoran Momdani’s 4th of July speech deconstruction
• 45:00–50:47 – SSPX Catholic splinter group and excommunication
• 50:47–55:53 – “Hip dips,” body image memes, and online rage bait

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Closing Vibes

The episode ends with Anna and Dasha spiraling out on minor anatomical features, plans for travel, and the ongoing value of Catholic identity (with a classic deadpan: “In Spain, they say if you’re not Catholic, you’re nothing.”). They bid each other a hesitant adieu, with the usual air of affectionate nihilism.

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Summary:
A humorously bleak, sharp-edged holiday episode where relationship memes, subcultural satire, and current events swirl together in the unmistakable Red Scare register. Essential listening for fans of their uncensored and acerbic commentary on cultural spectacle.

Transcript

[A]

Hello there.

[B]

Hi.

[A]

Happy 4th of July.

[B]

Happy America's 250th birthday dasha.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

250. Chin chin.

[A]

Do you have plans?

[B]

Nope.

[A]

Are you heading any BBQs today?

[B]

No, I might. I don't know. I don't really feel like doing anything.

[A]

It's hot as fuck there, right?

[B]

I have to, like, fly to Spain tomorrow, so.

[A]

Oh, yeah, you're.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

See ya. See you at the treatment center.

[B]

Yeah, I am.

[A]

I know. It's. I'm actually losing weight because I keep getting foodborne illnesses.

[B]

Yeah. Do you think that you have norovirus or heat stroke?

[A]

I don't think the heat's helping, but I do think it's a food issue.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But some other people have gotten sick and they think everyone has, like, different theories.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But I'm not. Like, I'm vomiting more than the alternative, but I'm kind of better. I think I'm in the clear.

[B]

Yeah, that's. Well, you look great, so.

[A]

Hey, thanks. I'm eight. You know, I'm taking the short term gains of being tan, but I'm obliterating my collagen and I'm gonna.

[B]

You're getting the vitamin D? Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. But I don't. I'm gonna age rapidly once you're all sun exposure.

[B]

Yeah, eventually, I guess. Like, how true is that, though? I guess people need like 10 minutes of sun a day. I don't know.

[A]

The jury's out. Whatever I feel they say, like, you shouldn't be like. Like, my face is burnt.

[B]

Yeah, I know. It looks like you did, like, a TikTok tutorial, like, putting, like.

[A]

Oh, yeah, I didn't like sunburnt girl. So you are coming to Spain?

[B]

I guess so. Yeah. It's.

[A]

Maybe you'll like it.

[B]

I mean, I've been to Spain before. I have, like, a very faint recollection of it. Yeah. I don't know. We shall see. I think it'll be fine. I'm like a happy traveler, as I said. There's really one place that I really realized.

[A]

What?

[B]

Austin, Texas. My least favorite place in the world. But other than that, like, whatever.

[A]

That sucked. Yeah. No, everything else has, like, novelty.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I've just like, been at this point in Spain longer than I've ever been anywhere that I haven't lived.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which wouldn't have been my choice, to be honest. I'm making the best of it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. So you don't have any plans? I'm at a pool party right now, actually. Okay.

[B]

So you have to get back out There. Yeah.

[A]

Woo. My God. We gotta. Yeah. We don't have much time. Yeah, I gotta. I gotta man the grill.

[B]

Do they have. Did they actually have food up in there?

[A]

We made hot dogs and burgers.

[B]

That was fun. Yeah.

[A]

And that was really. I like almost cried, honestly, eating a hot dog because I hate Spanish food so much.

[B]

I know. And I like hot dogs and hamburger

[A]

because I'm a patriot.

[B]

Do you feel any type of way about it being America's birthday?

[A]

No, I feel remote and alienated. If I was there, maybe I'd feel. I mean, 250 seems good.

[B]

That's solid.

[A]

That's like Lindy territory.

[B]

Yeah, well, you know, did you see those like, New York Post stories, Daily Mail stories or whatever of the parasite that's been going around that gives people explosive diarrhea? So I was right.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because yet again, I'm like, deep in the AIDS research and apparently. What prompted this? My turn. I don't know. Why are you for.

[A]

Sorry, it's like breaking up.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

So I didn't hear what you said.

[B]

Oh, no, I didn't say. No, I didn't say anything. No, I was just reading. I'm like rereading the Randy Schultz book and in it he speculates. So I don't know how accurate this is though. This is one theory that AIDS came to US shores on the bicentennial on the 200th birthday of America in 1976, which would explain why all the cases hit in the early 80s. So I like, I was being like. I was putting my like Nostradamus cap on and thinking like, well, we're like, about due for another super bug.

[A]

That's interesting. Yeah, too. So it's the 50th anniversary of AIDS also.

[B]

Yes, exactly.

[A]

Of the first AIDS super spreader event.

[B]

Yeah. So if we can just get off with like a mild explosive diarrhea parasite, that's probably good. I mean, it's a little anticlimactic. Yeah.

[A]

Anyway, well, you saw Davi Chase that.

[B]

Oh, yes, yes, Chase. She died in all determinism strikes again.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yes, she did. Wait, are you breaking up again?

[A]

Well, she wasn't bug chasing. She was a drug addict.

[B]

Oh, what?

[A]

I'm gonna leave and come back because it kind of worked last time. I'll be right back.

[B]

Wait, I can see you.

[A]

Is that any better?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, I can see you and hear you.

[A]

Yeah, you're sounding kind of bad.

[B]

Can you hear me now?

[A]

Weird. I can hear you, but it's. Are you using just the mic?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, that's all I have. That's it. That's the podcast.

[A]

Oh, God.

[B]

That's the best we can. Can you not hear me?

[A]

That's it. That's the show. We fucking tried. I can hear you. It's just laggy. So it's hard to talk about the aids.

[B]

Yeah, well, I'm done. I've done my spiel. We can move on to the doll kit.

[A]

Maybe if I do. Okay. Maybe. Do you think if I close some of my other programs, it'll work better? What, Give me a fight if I close some other apps. Oh, yeah.

[B]

True. Maybe I guess I could close some tabs. I don't really need all these tabs open, though. I don't know if that even does anything.

[A]

I mean, it's. It's kind of on. It's kind of a me problem because I'm in a third world country.

[B]

What's. Yeah, Okay.

[A]

I think it's working. Whatever. Whatever. Whatever.

[B]

Yeah, that's fine.

[A]

It is what it is.

[B]

I did some, like, picture in settings, so now the tabs switched and you were on the left and now you're on the right.

[A]

But whatever.

[B]

I can cope.

[A]

I think it's because I left and came back. But that's good. It keeps people guessing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That way they don't get too comfortable.

[B]

But, yeah.

[A]

Super sad about. I don't know how to say her name, actually.

[B]

Davey. I think it's just Davey.

[A]

Davey Davy Chase. I actually was, like, wondering. I, like, think about her sometimes because I am such a big fan of the Ring and Donnie Darko and Lilo

[B]

and Stitch, of course.

[A]

And she did have such a problem.

[B]

The best movie ever. Yeah.

[A]

And that's what she's kind of known for, is makes her death seem more bleak.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And apparently she had millions of residuals.

[B]

Yeah. Sitting in a bank account. She walked away from it all to be an addict on skid row with her boyfriend. Yeah. Based. I wish.

[A]

It's not. It's not dishonorable, honestly, in this day and age.

[B]

So true. Yeah,

[A]

there's. There's sadder fates, unfortunately.

[B]

That is true.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like penning tell essays, as I said. But anyway, we can get to the docket. What are we talking about?

[A]

Okay. Taylor Swift got married at msg.

[B]

Oh. Yeah. Weird choice. But okay. I mean, I guess. And Travis Kelsey. It's like a mega blockbuster event.

[A]

Well, she. They did a whole, like, light lavender. Light lavender haze, which I guess is a Taylor Swift song. Yeah.

[B]

It was like a lavender relationship, but I'm like.

[A]

So it's just A lavender wedding. Like you're just admitting it.

[B]

Yes. Yeah, I guess lavender is big in Spain, right? Not my fave. I don't really love lavender. Are you.

[A]

I like it. I like lavender. But it's like she. They both seem gay.

[B]

They do.

[A]

He definitely seems like a bulky dyke.

[B]

Yeah. And he's a tight end. I just learned that today that his position on the team is tight. I don't know what that means, but it means he's a gay.

[A]

What's his position? The tight end.

[B]

He's a tight end. He does have a tight end.

[A]

I'm sure he is a bottom.

[B]

And she's finally tied the knot after three years of dating. And there was no. Yeah. There was no bridesmaids or groomsmen. And her brother was the man of honor and his brother was the best man. And Adam Sandler officiated. This is just what I read in the book.

[A]

His daughters put him up to that.

[B]

I'm not like a big Taylor Swift fan, though. You know what's so random? I've been listening to that song Blank Space a lot lately in the weeks leading up to their wedding. She has some hair. She has a lot of bangers. Yeah. I mean, I think she's a beautiful girl with a beautiful voice. She's just like weird and asexual and like a little too cerebral. She's like the Erica Kirk of pop.

[A]

I think she's like, well, Vicky thinks she's a witch. And I kind of agree. Honestly,

[B]

I could see that for her. Yeah.

[A]

And I think. I think if as a man, if your girlfriend or wife is a swifty, you'll never, like. She'll do whatever Taylor Swift says before she listens to you.

[B]

That's true.

[A]

She's gonna be like, you can't have any.

[B]

She's going to be constantly testing your authority and disagreeing with you.

[A]

You can't have masculine authority. Yeah. If you're in a relationship with a Swiftie.

[B]

And I guess, yeah. A bunch of swifties showed up ahead of time because they were sleuthing around and they noted that some events company took out a permit for msg. A thousand person event. So they put two and two together. I can't imagine, like being a die hard Taylor Swift fan and like following her around the east coast in a heat wave. And it's like there was like a mother daughter duo that they interviewed and they're just like camped outside of the premises.

[A]

They were like wearing veils.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's just. She knows, like, it would have been obviously she would never do this, but, like, the classy thing to do would be to have, like, a discreet, cool wedding. But she's, like, incapable of ever doing the cool thing. She always has to do, like, the worst, most cynical gay nerd, like, greedy, evil, evil thing.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, but what's the play here? Just to have, like, a total black box wedding that you then release, like, images and videos from for tabloids? Is that the idea? Yeah, I mean, I guess. I guess I don't find that too. Too cynical because it's, like, very in line with her brand and Persona.

[A]

Well, her brand and Persona is, like, exploiting the parasocial bond people feel with her.

[B]

Yeah, I guess. Hasan Piker accuses her of tastelessly and classlessly exploiting the taxpayer who's, like, footing the bill for our security. Yeah. Because there was, like, there was street closures and crowd control involved. Allegedly. But I think she's. Yeah. Like, more obviously like, just exploiting her fan base, which is, like. I don't even. I wouldn't even call it exploiting because, like, they're your fans, and so you, like, tug at their little strings and stuff.

[A]

And if they come to New York, they're both, like, you know, it's like saying, like, a sports team is exploiting taxpayers by winning a basketball game because of, like, the unrest and celebrations that follow. It's not. Yeah, but he's been really. I. Yeah.

[B]

Hassan.

[A]

Hasan's worse than ever.

[B]

Hasan seems like a guy Taylor Swift would marry, frankly.

[A]

I know.

[B]

Like, I consider being a power couple. Yeah.

[A]

Inter class, you know, Class.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. But the aud. I mean, I guess we do this in our role as podcasters, where we, like, recap and summarize, like, various things that have happened in the discourse, but, like, the gall. The audacity of him to, like, chimp out about how Taylor is, like, an exploitative capitalist. That's crazy.

[A]

He streams all day.

[B]

That's true. That's all he does. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, I'm good. I'm good. They wore Jonathan Anderson for Dior Haute Couture. Sounds awful. I'm sure they. Sure. They both look like. I saw this picture of. Hold on, I'll show you a picture that really. That he looks really gay in, and I'll hold it up to the screen so people can get.

[B]

Yeah, that. Yeah. I mean, he. He looks like some, like, Alpine. It's like German folk.

[A]

Not the.

[B]

Look at the Gucci leader. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

He looks like a guy they're not even paying him to.

[B]

Yeah, well, he looks like a guy

[A]

they're not even wants to wear that.

[B]

Yeah, I know, I know. That's why I mentioned Hasan Piker, because I, like, kind of have the same taste level. Yeah.

[A]

No, true and slow. IQ squint.

[B]

Yeah. Like all young guys now love to do the low IQ squint handlebar mustache thing and wear, like a knit polo with shorts. Like, they dress like. They dress like gay guys before the AIDS crisis hit. This is like.

[A]

That's another red flag. Yeah, it's. Things are lining up in the timeline and sartorially, yes, we're prime.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

For a Neo. Neo.

[B]

We are.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, I've been betting on Call She.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

You won $60 because I got nothing. I won. I actually won more than that, but I'm. Tonight, I'm betting on. I guess Trump's going to make a speech at Mount Rushmore.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[A]

Oh, yeah. I haven't heard from him lately, and so people are betting on, like, what he'll say, what phrases he'll say.

[B]

Okay, that's fun.

[A]

And I made. I guess by the time this comes, it's not gonna matter, but I wish Donald Trump, if you can hear me

[B]

say Founding Father, he's gonna say Founding Fathers, I'm sure.

[A]

I think he will. The probability is apparently very low. I stand to win big if he says it, because it's not really in his lexicon. I understand why people think he won't, but I think with Mount Rushmore, Fourth of July. Huh. I think it could happen. And that would be. That'd be nice. That'd be a nice dopamine hit for me, and, you know, I need it.

[B]

They should recarve Mount Rushmore, and it should be Hasan Piker, Travis Kelce, Bad Bunny, and Jacob Elordi.

[A]

There we go. Perfect.

[B]

The Four Horsemen of the gay Apocalypse.

[A]

We can do it to celebrate the 50th anniversary of AIDS.

[B]

Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Any. Any other remarks? I don't really like, have. I don't have anything riveting to say about Taylor Swift's wedding.

[A]

No. God, I don't care. No. I mean, you know who really kind of. This is a good segue. Here we go. Taylor Swift's wedding, overshadowed a little bit by that Russian couple that climbed the Empire State Building.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, true.

[A]

And they've become kind of the real folk heroes.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

That's what's in the news. That's. We're just trying to. We're just trying to get through the news.

[B]

The couple. Yeah. Angelina Nicolau and Ivan Kuznetsov, AKA Beer Kiss. Do you know anything about these people?

[A]

Did you see the video? No. I guess there's a documentary about. They're like renowned climbers of landmarks.

[B]

Yeah. They're just. They're doing, like, parkour. Russians love that shit.

[A]

Not exactly that, but basically, yeah.

[B]

Yeah. It's like erotic parkour. They're like circus freaks and carnies. It's like in their blood.

[A]

They love, like, affinity for them to soleil.

[B]

Yeah. It feels very like, eroticism. Yeah.

[A]

But also so I'm like, yeah. Like I'm endeared to it, but repulsed by it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I think that's the contrarian in me. When people. When people are responding to. Effusively to it. I'm like, can't you see? They're just low I.Q. criminals. Them.

[B]

Yeah. This is a cynical. For attention. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's hard. It's hard to argue.

[A]

But then when I saw the video.

[B]

Yeah, what were you saying?

[A]

When I saw the video of her yelling at him about. He was like.

[B]

He was like, they're, like, bickering up

[A]

there about, like, getting the perfect shot.

[B]

Yeah. She's like, steuta, the choir. No,

[A]

That did warm my heart.

[B]

Yeah. He's doing the classic guy thing where he's like, what? This is a totally nice picture. Shut up, bitch.

[A]

And she's like, that's not the shot.

[B]

And she's like, why are we doing this if it's not gonna be perfect?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Why did we go this way? Yeah. I guess they scaled the Empire State Building and then unfurled a banner with a Jimi Hendrix quote. And then he proposed to her. Is that what happened? I didn't watch.

[A]

That's what that is.

[B]

Yeah. And I guess the quote is, when the power of love beats the love of power, the world knows peace and everybody's, like, losing their mind over. How romantic.

[A]

When the love of power repeats.

[B]

In Soviet Russia, love falls in power beats you.

[A]

They're up there listening to dubstep.

[B]

Yeah. Dietzel. They're, like, charged with multiple colonies also, I guess probably like, breaking and entering, trespassing. I don't know what.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. But then, did you see the air traffic controller clip?

[B]

No.

[A]

It's like the audio of them being

[B]

like, two, oh, two genius.

[A]

These, like, New Yorky air traffic guys being like, oh, two geniuses climbed the Eiffel Tower. They've got some kind of sign and. Oh, he just proposed to her, so. Yeah, he proposed to her up there.

[B]

Well, and then they interviewed her dad, who was like, well, they've been married for Years. This is just a stunt. Oh, they have, apparently. Yeah. So they're just. Obviously they're probably self producing some documentary about their hijinks. And like every. Like, I saw people being like, you know, if. If you have a cynical take on this, like, you're clearly resentful of hot people and you're resentful of people in love and you're like anti white and all this stuff and blah, blah, blah. But I literally didn't see a single person being mad about it. I think most people agreed it was heartwarming. And they are both pretty sexy and have those like green nat Geo eyes.

[A]

They. Yeah.

[B]

Which they look like siblings. Yeah, she had a glow up. Yeah. Yeah. I. I really didn't see anyone having like a negative opinion. So I'm gonna be the one to do it. I'll have the negative opinion. I'll be the hater and the cynic, which is like, not even that bad. It's like, yeah, they're clearly, like, promoting their joint brand, like Tay Tay and Travis. Like, obviously there's some of that going on, but who's to say you think scaling the Empire State Building is romantic? Have you ever driven to a remote part of French Canada to visit the grave of AIDS patient zero gay Ton dugas together?

[A]

I mean, it is like. Well, to me, it's like they clearly are like probably sub 100 IQ, but just barely together.

[B]

Together they break a hundred.

[A]

Together they break a hundred. But they, like, just aren't scared of height. It's not like, it's impressive. They are doing the feeds. But like, if you're not scared of heights.

[B]

Are you scared of heights, then?

[A]

It's not. I'm. I'm not trying to climb up anywhere. No, I. I don't Like, I went to like a creek.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't like, you know, it's.

[B]

I'm not like, not my fave. Yeah.

[A]

Phobic, but I was like, down in a creek the other day in the. In the countryside where I live now, and I was like. I didn't have, like, water shoes, you know, so I was barefoot and there was like, I was like trudging through and I was like, you know what? It's just a matter of time before I fall, so I'm just gonna stop.

[B]

Well, that's like.

[A]

There's nothing for me, I guess that's

[B]

like the implied risk that one or both of them might, like, trip and fall and die, which makes it romantic. It's like. It's like raw dogging. Right there's a risk that's been taken out of love.

[A]

And they're. Yeah, they're raising the stakes. It's probably. Yeah, it probably is. Like, but is it. If you. If you truly, like, don't have the part of your brain that makes you scared of heights, then is it even, like, exhilarating?

[B]

Yeah, I guess it's like. I'm sure.

[A]

Yeah. You have cognitive awareness that.

[B]

Yeah, well, I don't know. You never know.

[A]

Like, what's the documentary called? I don't remember. Skywalkers.

[B]

Yeah, it's called Sky Fuckers. It's a Netflix documentary that people probably are going to tune in for. I mean, them being, like, young and attractive has.

[A]

On Wikipedia, it says her. It says her occupation is rooftopper.

[B]

What's his?

[A]

Oh, she's a rhythmic gymnast like my mom.

[B]

Oh, wow. Did your parents have a take on this? He's.

[A]

I haven't talked to them, actually. They probably think it's cool, honestly. He's also a rooftopper, obviously, but I don't think he has, like, a gymnastics background the way that she does.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And he makes NFTs. Oh, she makes NFTs?

[B]

Well, I guess.

[A]

Photographs. It doesn't say they're married on Wikipedia.

[B]

Oh, her dad.

[A]

They live in East Orange, New Jersey. Anna.

[B]

Wow. Jersey strong. Yeah.

[A]

Her.

[B]

Her dad, Dimitri Nicolo, claims that they are married. I don't know why he would talk to the press, but why would he

[A]

be shady like that and mess up and mess with her bag?

[B]

But Russian people love being married. They get married really young and they just, like, are all married and some of them are separated, but the Russian people are always married.

[A]

Maybe he doesn't. Maybe her dad doesn't like him because he's encouraging his daughter to do these perilous risks.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't know. There's nothing like that to say about this cute young couple that's, like, trying to raise their profile, I guess. Yeah, it was, like, relatable and humanizing that she was, like, yelling at him about taking bad pictures on, like, a dangerous part of the building. Yeah, yeah. And he's like, Yeah, like, I guess it is kind of cool that they.

[A]

Honestly, even if they are married.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Even if they're married, getting proposed to again is still cool.

[B]

Yeah, they're, like, renewing their vows.

[A]

Whatever. I'm gonna give it to him.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, it's cute. Fine. It's cool that they're, like, wrenching the. The joy of pride from the gay community, but with this, like, forcefully heterosexual act, I guess. Mad Taylor is right. That heterosexuality is back.

[A]

It's July. Gaze to the back. You know, time for us to shine.

[B]

It would be funny if two gay guys scaled the Empire State Building and had barebacks and gave each other AIDS up there.

[A]

That would be cool. I've been putting sun in. In my hair blob.

[B]

What does that do? It gives you, like, more highlights.

[A]

It's. It's like, lightens your hair. But my hair looks pretty. You can't really tell, but it looks pretty orange. It's like lemon. It's like lemon juice and bleach and stuff.

[B]

But it's okay.

[A]

I'm gonna sort it all out when I get out of here.

[B]

What else did I jot down about this couple? Blah, blah.

[A]

I wrote low IQ Criminal.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I have a feeling this episode's gonna be kind of. Kind of bad. But the video does a lot. Yeah.

[B]

Poorly received. It does. Yeah. I wish it was colder in here so I could have hard nipples, but sadly, no. Yeah, yeah. You could just say anything if there's video.

[A]

I'm gonna. I'm gonna get another cruise Campo. I'll be right back.

[B]

Yeah. What's that?

[A]

It's a buzz. It's a Spanish beer. I can hear, like, people talking.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Hi. Hi, all. Okay, I'm back. If I was in Reno, why would I be drinking all these beers?

[B]

I mean, I assume that was the Coke Zero, but Spain apparently is the capital of non alcoholic beers. They drink more non alcoholic beer per capita than any other.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Didn't see that coming.

[A]

It's also the bald, and they're balder than any other.

[B]

Yeah, they're bald as. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah.

[A]

Checks out my. Yeah.

[B]

I think I said surveying the situation.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

No, it's true. There. I've never seen more bald men than in Spain, and they all kind of look the same, like little old men, but. Yeah, I think I said this on the last one. There's like, two types of Spanish guy. There's like, the Spanish guy with, like, the lion's mane of, like, thick straw, like, blondish hair. And then there's like, the bald in a polo.

[A]

I sure are. Yeah. Honestly, if any listeners live in Hornachuelos, I'm not that far horny. Twelis hit me up, honestly.

[B]

Yeah. And if anyone listeners want to give me, like, Spain, Rex, I'll take those two. Yeah.

[A]

I mean, I have some Spain wrecks, but I don't know where you're going.

[B]

I think mostly, like, the south of Spain. We're gonna hit the muzzy cities.

[A]

There's a mosque in Cordoba. Yeah, yeah. There.

[B]

It's.

[A]

The Moorish towns are quite cool, actually.

[B]

Yeah, they seem like it. I've never been to that part of Spain, so I'm relatively excited. It's hard to.

[A]

I think you'll have a good time. It's nice probably to bop around and not be so trapped.

[B]

Yeah, I think I'm gonna do that, I guess. There was that Lindy Mann tweet about how he shouldn't promote. Sorry, what were you saying?

[A]

No, go ahead.

[B]

No, like, you shouldn't promote expressions of love because true love is extremely rare and you're getting people's hopes up. But I actually, like, don't agree with that because, like, those rare displays are what give people hope and enthuse them. I think everybody understands, like, love is rare. No one's, like, laboring under the delusion. I mean, everybody. Yeah. Holds out the delusion that it might happen to them. And it does once or twice in your life.

[A]

But, like, sometimes I can see both sides. I do think Lindy man's onto something. Glad he unblocked me, I guess. Maybe. But I think we should celebrate, like, being with someone even if you don't love them also.

[B]

Yeah, I guess duty.

[A]

And we put too much emphasis on, you know.

[B]

Yeah, well, yeah, this very, like, feminine, narcissistic conception of love where you're like, a pretty princess who's, like, coddled and pampered and everything goes your way. And it's like, realistically, it's not like, even if you have, like, a happy, loving, long lasting relationship, one of you is gonna get sick and die before the other one. So you have that a lot with the root.

[A]

I've seen that a lot in regards to, like, the roof toppers, the Russian rooftoppers that, like. Oh, he just raised the bar. Like, ladies, if your man isn't gonna,

[B]

like,

[A]

scale a building to propose to you, and it's like, well.

[B]

But it's like, well, you have to scale a building with him.

[A]

Yeah, they're special.

[B]

It would be funny if this unleashed a spate of, like, copycats and a bunch of people died because they didn't have the gymnastic training.

[A]

I mean, looking at the Wikipedia, it does seem like there are primarily Russian people doing this.

[B]

Yeah, they love daring feats of, like, urban mountaineering because they understand that, like, no lives matter.

[A]

What is it about them?

[B]

And, yeah, they're just, like, less precious about life, I think, probably.

[A]

And, like, I think they lack some genes. Some, like.

[B]

Yeah, surely. Yeah.

[A]

Running a fact check. Like, what's that gene that black people have or don't have that that makes them susceptible?

[B]

Oh, I don't know. I. I just think they have higher T, but, like. Yeah, they have, like, lower impulse control.

[A]

No, it's not just the T. There's something. No, there's something else about, like, building muscle mass. But didn't you tell me that Russian people are, like, less susceptible to aids?

[B]

Some are, like, northern Europeans in general. I think it comes down to maternal haplogroup. I know this because a friend of the pod aunt texted me recently and was like, hey, love your AIDS posting, by the way. You and I have the same maternal haplogroup that is at risk for quick, like, really fast degeneration from immunodeficiency. And I was like, oh, shit. I thought me being, like, part Russian would protect me, immunize me against it, but apparently not. But I think, yes, some, like, Northern Russians, like, 13% of the population is, like, more immune to AIDS, and if you have both pairs of this of some gene or something, you're totally immune to it. If you have one copy, you're partially immune. I don't know. Yeah, like, people of different, varying, like, ethnicities have different susceptibilities to this virus and presumably other viruses.

[A]

That makes sense.

[B]

That's why I'm a race realist, and I can say anything I want to say. Because there's a video.

[A]

Well, you can't, because I might post this on YouTube and I think it's really easy. I'm not gonna monetize.

[B]

I think we're in the bad.

[A]

I think we're in the clear.

[B]

I guess it is, like. Yeah, I mean, it is, mate. Like, I. I have to think about this, but it is admirable to train yourself to, like, not be afraid of heights.

[A]

I think they were never afraid of heights, I don't think.

[B]

Yeah, maybe. I see.

[A]

Yeah, I don't think they're doing exposure therapy up there. I think they, like, lack the capacity to have that experience of fear.

[B]

Yeah, possibly. Yeah.

[A]

Zoran Momdani. Oh, yeah. Or sspx. You don't. Trevor, obviously.

[B]

Well, I just. You're gonna have to mansplain it to me because I don't really get it, but the Mamdani speech was interesting. It was short. It was mercifully short. And they provided a transcript.

[A]

Yeah, I kind of skimmed the transcript and I watched some clips. I got the gist.

[B]

Yeah, it's.

[A]

He's kind of. He's. He's Doing a bummer thing.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

On the Fourth of July.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And I, you know, I want to come around to Zaron because I like winners. I like the mayor, like, you know, as a New Yorker. But I like, yeah. When he jumps in the pool in his suit and is like talking about the Knicks, you know, like, like, let's keep, let's keep doing stuff like that. Let's keep going to the, like hostile. Yeah.

[B]

Well, he's all, I also like immigrants. Yeah. And he's doing, he's. People are right, they're correct that he took a lot from Trump's playbook. So he's like a Trumpian figure or like post Trumpian figure or whatever. But like. And he's a winner, obviously.

[A]

And he's a fine enough mayor.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, he's fine. Like nothing that bad has happened. The subways seem clearer of rabble than usual. But, but he is winning by losing because he's doing this thing where he's reframing the mythos and legacy of the founding fathers. He talks about, he frames the American Revolution as a brave anti colonial struggle against colonial oppressors. And then he launches into this panegyric. I don't know if I'm pronouncing that correctly on immigration, beginning with Ellis Islands, the Jews, the Italians, the Syrians. And he's talking about how all these groups were.

[A]

When did the Ugandans get here?

[B]

I know. Yeah. He's like, well, I didn't see my family, didn't see the Statue of Liberty from the boat, but we saw it from a plane. And he's talking about how they're like fleeing pogroms and poverty from shtetls and slums. And it's like this whole textbook, pretty anodyne narrative of like overcoming adversity with an emphasis on all, like the oppression and discrimination these groups faced. Here's a quote, he says, each of these new arrivals. Downer, I know. Through portholes onto a city that was changing as fast as the nation. They saw merchants peddling their wares on the docks, streets being laid out in a grid, buildings rising into the clouds. They could not yet see the nativism they would face, the jobs they would be refused, the landlords who would not rent to them, and the abject labor and living conditions they would have to withstand. But no matter how much smog hung over the harbor, they still saw an opportunity to begin anew. And he refra, he like does this thing where he reframes American exceptionalism as belonging to the hard work of immigrants. He Says, the truth, my friends, is that America is exceptional because here nothing is fixed into place. So it's like the whole, like, America is an idea idea. And that idea is always, like, shifting our newest Americans, you hold the power to determine what America means. And then he. He says a funny thing. Division is the oldest trick in politics and the cheapest. Which is ironic because he's, like, trading on divisiveness. I guess the most interesting part for me, where is he? Basically, in his retelling, these white Anglo settlers to the United States who saw their independence from, like, the British crown were not so much the founding Fathers as just another group of immigrants in the chain of immigration. You know, like, they just happened to be the first ones.

[A]

We were a colony.

[B]

Yeah. And he talks about how, like, New York is, like a city of contradictions and a nation of contradictions. It's like the wealthiest nation in the

[A]

world,

[B]

but it's, like, bled dry by monopolies and oligarchs. It's built on the backbreaking labor of the undocumented who are now being raided by ice. Like, this is all in his speech. And he does, like, the classic, not

[A]

appropriate fourth of July.

[B]

I know, it is. It is divisive. Yeah. It's not inspiring or patriotic to talk like that.

[A]

I mean, it's rage bait once again.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, he's a rage baiter. He's divisive.

[A]

He knows what he's doing.

[B]

He does. Yeah. He doesn't. Like, he's. He's a well educated enough guy. He doesn't not know the story of the Founding Fathers. He. He strikes out against corporate landlords and the exploitative health insurance industry. But. And of course he knows, but conveniently fails to mention that all of these, like, globalist entities and policies that he's against that are, like, extracting profit and exploiting people. They're not in conflict with open borders. They're in line with it. But of course, he frames it as like. Like the, like, platonic ideal of the American idea is, like, opening, like, flinging the gates open for various new migrant groups. Like, that's the gist of his message. And it just feels very cynical and knowing.

[A]

It's a lot of. Yeah, it's a lot of, like. I know. And. Yeah, like, flanked by the, like, dour, like, unhappy immigrants and sitting at George Washington's desk.

[B]

Yeah. Like, with his, like, Taliban stare.

[A]

I don't. Like.

[B]

It's.

[A]

The optics are so bad that he, like, has, like. I don't know what the play is because he has to have some awareness of how like, it's not going to go over well, but it's intentional.

[B]

I mean, I think it probably does go over well with his voter base, which is comprised of like educated immigrants like him, and also just like third world poor people and affluent white libtards. And they're like, yes, like America, you think? And he probably knows. I, I mean, I don't know.

[A]

250.

[B]

I don't know if it made a splash. But he knows he's probably gonna like get the conservators in a tizzy too, and they're gonna say something mean and racist and, you know, rinse and repeat.

[A]

Well, that's what I mean. Yeah, it's like, he's exactly like. It's like the hand in the biryani. He's like begging you to be upset about how he's a Ugandan guy to tell you about what America is.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He says our country, it's like, it's not your country, dude. You came here like 15 years ago and applied for citizenship like seven years ago.

[A]

You're brand new.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, it's my old country.

[A]

I came here 30 years ago.

[B]

Yes. Yeah. He, he has this line about how the powerful have always known that American exceptionalism is an arena of supremacy where only a select few are allowed freedom, where not all are created equal. America, if you ask them, becomes less the more people it welcomes. It belongs. It belongs only to those with the right accent or the right shade of skin. The rest of us, they insist, should be grateful for merely being allowed to.

[A]

Then why does everyone want to come here?

[B]

Yeah, but that's a direct nod to like right wing discourse where they're like, these immigrants are ungrateful and entitled, which they are. He's like kind of clapping back at that. And who, who are the powerful? Like, what does he mean?

[A]

Ungrateful and entitled?

[B]

Yeah. And then he, he goes on to say how they're so small and so original. He's doing like the classic like leftist thing. Like, that's so, so tiresome. But that's fine. It just like, it's kind of makes no sense. There's, it's like illogical and contradictory because the elites now aren't like angry rich old white men. They're like nameless faces.

[A]

They're not even Americans.

[B]

Ethno elites, like Mumdani. Yeah, they're. Yeah, they're like literally like Chinese and Indian people and who are like the cream of the crop of their society who are coming here and like, stripping American society. Like. Yeah, there's, like, an inherent irony.

[A]

I mean, and the Jews and. But he's never. That's why he. That's why he's paying lip service to the pogroms.

[B]

Yup.

[A]

He's very. Because, you know, he'd never come after a certain sect of beliefs.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So that's why he ends up just, like, trading in these, like, vagaries.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That are.

[B]

That are, like, vaguely. I mean, I guess they're like, vaguely what?

[A]

I guess he's, like, vaguely made his speech at Mount Rushmore. I lost my bet.

[B]

He didn't say Founding Father.

[A]

He didn't say found. He didn't say Founding father. I lost 60 bucks. What the.

[B]

Well, hey, I guess you, like, netted out at zero.

[A]

Yeah. Okay, I'll win it back. I'm gonna win it back. I'm gonna win it back.

[B]

I guess he can't come right out and say, like, the Founding Fathers were racist and sexist, because that wouldn't play well.

[A]

Well, no, I'm saying Trump didn't say Founding Father.

[B]

No, I know, I know. But Zo. Ron can't. Can't. He has to. Well, he has to basically kind of like, belittle and diminish the Founding Fathers by framing them as just another group of immigrants versus the immigrant group. Yeah. Versus the people who, like, made this nation. Because he can't say what he wants to say. But I guess, hey, it's like a masterclass in vague, nefarious, libtard speechwriting. So good for him.

[A]

Maybe I shouldn't be on call. She. Honestly, maybe this isn't a good. It's okay.

[B]

It's not that bad. $60. There's a lot of drop in the bucket, but I understand it's psychological.

[A]

I know.

[B]

Upsetting. Disappointing. Yeah.

[A]

Just. Yeah, it's okay. Honestly, I wish I could have voted on SSPX getting excommunicated, because I would have seen that one coming.

[B]

Wait, can you. Can you explain that? So SSPX is a set of acantists,

[A]

right? They're not. Well, no, they're not. No, they're not set of a Cantus because Sedevacantus wouldn't want to be in communion with who they consider to be the anti Pope. Okay, so they have, like, long been in this kind. They're similar in that they, like, are anti Vatican ii. Okay, but they, like, have been in this kind of. They've been excommunicated before by JP2 and then, like, reinstated. They're really, like, a kind of Like a. Because they're, like, ultra conservative. They're anti modernism, anti ecumenism. So they're kind of like a conservative splinter group within Catholicism that practices the Latin Mass. And they were excommunicated on the 1st. Because they ordained some bishops without papal approval, basically.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But they think the Pope is real. They like. Okay.

[B]

They acknowledge they're worse than set of a.

[A]

They think they could not. But they don't know. They're disobedient, but they think that he is the Pope.

[B]

Okay. So they're like, just.

[A]

They don't.

[B]

They're the setting, but they think within the Vatican. I see. They're not within. I mean, what are they.

[A]

Own thing.

[B]

Okay. But they're within the church.

[A]

And he told them, Pope Leo. Not anymore. Now they're excommunicated.

[B]

Okay. Do you think that they will pop?

[A]

Leo said. He said, don't do it. No, no, because.

[B]

But then I do think they. Well, I guess my question is, why pose a direct and incontrovertible challenge to papal authority if you don't expect some sort of serious punishment in return? Right.

[A]

It's a good question. I mean.

[B]

Yeah, they can't be.

[A]

They claim they had to do it. I mean, it's a lot. It's really. It's. They're so autistic that they're like horseshoe theory dumb again. And they don't. They've, like, lost grasp of, like, the fundamentals. Okay. And they're, like, trapped in, like, a labyrinth of, like, autistic legalese stuff.

[B]

So what will become of them?

[A]

But it's. People are saying it's the. They're gonna keep doing their thing,

[B]

and

[A]

if it, like, ricochets and we get a more conservative pope, he'll probably, like, reinstate their faculties. I mean, they've been around since

[B]

the 60s, I guess. Right.

[A]

Okay. Since Vatican II, they, like, splintered and created this, like, more traditionalist organization. But it is the biggest excommunication, I guess, of, like, laity since someone in my. One of my Catholic group texts said, like, since the Reformation. But I don't know if that's necessarily true, but they have grown a lot in number because of the.

[B]

Wait a second.

[A]

The rise of, like, trad Cast. The rise in traditionalism.

[B]

How many Catholic group chats are you in? Just kind of two.

[A]

Like, one. One to two.

[B]

Okay, what, like, what is this?

[A]

One on, like, Twitter and one, like, on my phone?

[B]

Is it. Wait, is this the organization that Mel Gibson belongs to? Or is he, like, a straight up set of a. Cantist He's a set

[A]

of probationist, which is. But no, he's not. He would. He, like, would go to sspx, but he's more like properly sighted and has his own thing that he's doing.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

That's more like out of communion with Rome, probably.

[B]

And are most of these people based in the United States or are they, like a global organization?

[A]

They are based, Anna. Most of these people are based.

[B]

Well, I don't really get it because of, like, knowing nothing about this. I would just be like a straight up. Like, I would just be a set of a cantist if given the choice, like, if I had issues.

[A]

Yeah, it's the more like, logical kind of thing to do. And they want to inhabit this, like, gray area where they don't want to be separate from the Magisterium, but they don't want. They're really big in France. France. In France, they have, like, an actual church. In America they have, like. They're more disparate. And I went to, like, some. I went to an SSPX mass in Tokyo and in New Zealand because they, like, barely even have Catholics in New Zealand, but they're like. They're. They are all over, but they have, like, kind of smaller missions. But in Spain and France, where they have just more like, Catholic people in general, they're more substantial.

[B]

That makes sense.

[A]

And I hope they work it out. I know no one really cares. I'll stop. Yeah, we could wrap it up.

[B]

No, I'm interested. I'm like. I'm just. I'm like. I mean. Yeah, I guess we could wrap. How long have we been going. I guess we could talk about hip dips, but I have nothing. I have nothing to say about that either.

[A]

Oh, yeah, I forgot about hip dips. Do you have hip dips?

[B]

I think so. I honestly don't know. I feel like anyone does.

[A]

Me too.

[B]

I've been trying to.

[A]

I've been studying my body, trying to figure it out.

[B]

Yeah, there's.

[A]

I feel like you could take a picture of any woman and, like, she would have hips.

[B]

I mean, I think. No, some women really don't. And they have, like, perfectly round hips and, like, gotta give credit where it's due and, like, speak the truth and that's just like, more aesthetically pleasing. It looks good when a woman has, like, the hourglass thing. But I've never. It's like, even. Even as like, a pretty. Like a highly aesthetically observant person. This is not something that I've ever thought about, but I don't like originally when people started talking about hip dips, I assumed they were talking about like an exercise because I think hip dips are an exercise. Right. It's like when you, when you do hip thrusts. Yeah.

[A]

You know what? Let's. Let's both pull down our pants right now on camera and see. Just see what we're.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And I don't know, we'll let you, the fans, decide.

[B]

Yeah, yeah,

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I. I guess I saw somebody saying that if you have hip dips, it means that you have a narrower, A narrower pelvis that's more recessed, so that would make it harder to give birth. But I don't.

[A]

You got that baby out.

[B]

I got that baby out in, like, record time. I don't know. I mean, I don't think I've like, particularly pronounced. Yeah, I don't have like pronounced hip dips to my knowledge.

[A]

No. I think maybe at certain angles it might look like I have them, but my body's fine.

[B]

I think realistically, also, like, the skinnier, like the skinnier you are, the more dip you would have because you just have like less fat on your hips. And then it comes down to also, like, where how your fat is distributed. If you're like top heavy or bottom heavy.

[A]

I'm. Well, that's why this is really just about waist. Waist to hip ratio is the only thing that really matters, right?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And arm to boob ratio.

[B]

Arm to boob ratio. Yeah. Another big one. Yeah. I don't know. This feels like one of those things that's like a strictly online thing as I understand it. I don't think this is even true. This seems like elaborate and far fetched, but it was like a response to women mockingly and dismissively talking about male height, like under 6, one need not apply type thing.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So like, God can't help and. Yeah, so they were like roasting females. And this led a lot of women to take it personally and get really mad. What was interesting to me about it, which was the point. Yeah, it was, it was like, like doing the classic thing of like trolling women into revealing their, like, preoccupation and narcissism, whatever. But like, this is like one of those things that like, nobody notices or cares about in real life. And even if they do pick up on it, they don't bring it up to you.

[A]

Maybe like on a subliminal level. It's something people have awareness of. But yeah, I don't think, obviously it's just more rage bait.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. And it's. I I guess the interesting part of it for me was it's not like they were, like, cruelly targeting individual women with hip dips. You know, unbeknownst to them, women were literally, like, raising their hand and volunteering and being. Coming out of the woodwork being like, I have hip dips and no, I'm not unfuckable. And then you just, like, put. You put yourself out there.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You get there. Like, you get mocked and ridiculed. Yeah, yeah. Which is stupid. Yeah, yeah. It's like driving people out of, like, the nest, the cave to, like, chimp out.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And, you know, I like, like, I enjoy talking about aesthetics and all this stuff, but, like, I question the utility of turning everything into, like, a meme because it's not so much that it makes people feel bad and self conscious, because maybe you should feel bad and self conscious about certain things, but it just makes people, I. E. Women think too much about themselves, which is bad. So now that all these girls are like, yeah. Going around being like, do I have hip dips? Like, panicking. I wonder what. That's a good call. She betting thing. Like, what's going to be the next thing that women are mocked and ridiculed for that they can't control?

[A]

I wish they had more granular stuff like that. It's really. It's not. The markets aren't there for that kind of thing yet, but I hope they get there because I love gambling and I want to keep doing it.

[B]

Yeah. You know what's an absolute deal breaker for me is attached earlobes.

[A]

Deal breaker.

[B]

Yeah. Wait, I don't think you have attached earlobes. No. You don't? No. You have. You have detached earlobes.

[A]

No, I don't.

[B]

Yeah, I don't.

[A]

I think. Yeah. Deal breaker. Really?

[B]

No, I'm kidding. Obviously not. But it's not my fave feature.

[A]

Yeah. I do like a nice ear.

[B]

Me too.

[A]

Underrated feature. Yeah.

[B]

I like things that, like, most people don't think to think about, but probably subliminally notice, like wrists, clavicles, that sort of thing.

[A]

I like the nape of a man's neck.

[B]

True. Yeah.

[A]

You know, that's kind of like a tender zone. And ears also are weirdly, like, intimate.

[B]

Yeah, they are. Yeah.

[A]

And to really love someone and to like, have. Be familiar with their ears is something special.

[B]

Yeah. That's well said.

[A]

Anyway, I gotta get back to the.

[B]

I gotta go to this back area. I guess I gotta go out and return some videotapes before the stores close for the evening. So I'm gonna do that.

[A]

Okay. Safe travels.

[B]

Thank you, Dasha.

[A]

Maybe I'll see you in Spain.

[B]

Yeah, maybe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll probably hit you up.

[A]

We'll see what happens. I'm gonna. Maybe we'll keep in touch. We'll try to connect.

[B]

Yeah. In the Catholic group chat.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, happy birthday, America.

[A]

You know, in Spain. In Spain, they say if you're not Catholic, you're nothing.

[B]

Do they?

[A]

Okay, so I will see they do that. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Yeah.

[B]

Anyway,

[A]

okay. See you soon.

[B]

Hell,

[A]

Sam.