Stop Wasian Hate *TEASER*

Summary

Red Scare: "Stop Wasian Hate" TEASER
February 28, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this teaser episode, Anna Khachiyan and Dasha Nekrasova riff on the media frenzy surrounding two high-profile "Hapa" (mixed-race Asian) female Olympic gold medalists: Eileen Gu and Alysa Liu. Against a backdrop of contemporary cultural and geopolitical tensions, the hosts unpack how these athletes and their backgrounds become vessels for broader anxieties and narratives, from Chinese-American identity to the politicization of parentage and surrogacy. With characteristic irreverence, the hosts question official narratives, point out the "psyops" feel of elite success stories, and probe societal discomforts around East-West relations, surrogacy, and the nature of the soul.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Eileen Gu and Alysa Liu: The "Perfectly Opposed" Wasians

• The episode kicks off with observations about the two athletes, whom the hosts call, “two beautiful princess Hapa Weijun, Olympic gold medalists. Eileen Guessa Liu.” (00:02)
• Anna points out, “Kind of only have one because Eileen Gu plays for China.” (00:12), noting the symbolic divide between the athletes.
• Dasha dubs Gu a "defector": “She’s playing for the wrong team. She’s kind of a defector.” (00:16)
• Anna elaborates on how their family backgrounds are mirror images: “One’s got an Asian dad, one’s got an Asian mom.” (00:33)
• The two note the eerie balance in their stories, and Anna jokes, “Kate made a really good point that it does have this like psyops quality. Yeah. Where they’re almost too perfectly like geometrically and geographically opposed.” (00:27)

2. Parental Mysteries and Rumors

• The segment dives into the question marks surrounding Eileen Gu’s parentage, with Anna speculating: “Unclear if she’s an IVF baby.” (00:38)
• Dasha references public knowledge about Alysa Liu’s father: “Arthur Liu was a guy who fled China as a defector during Tenement Square because he hated communism and he established a successful law practice.” (00:44)
• Anna adds controversy: “But he was also part of this like proto Falun Gong type cult.” (01:10)
• The hosts note conflicting stories about Gu’s father, referencing media speculation – “The Chinese media reports that he’s a Harvard H man and possibly a boyfriend. Not a donor. Though there are no photos of Eileen Gu’s mom visibly pregnant.” (01:51)

3. Cultural Differences in Childbearing

• The hosts pivot to surrogacy and Chinese-American family-building, referencing a recent New Yorker article: “Their victories come in an interesting moment because a couple weeks ago there was this article in the New Yorker about these Chinese people. The Chinese people seem very bullish on surrogacy.” (02:31)
• Anna and Dasha debate, noting the diaspora vs. mainland difference because “Chinese people don’t be doing that because they have a one child policy.” (02:55)

4. One-Child Policy Trauma and Dark Humor

• They consider the “traumatized” legacy of China’s one-child policy, with a blend of seriousness and black humor:
  • C: “I traumatized from drowning girl child in Yangtze River. CCP say no second child I make into handbag.” (03:08)
• Anna and Dasha respond, not missing a beat, as the laughter punctures the gravity of state intervention in family life.

5. Broader Reflections: Chinese (and American) Attitudes toward Creativity and Risk

• The hosts riff on stereotypes and cultural narratives:
  • Dasha: “They just have like a weird insectoid alternate universe approach to like childbirth and child rearing.” (03:31)
  • Anna: “Well, I don’t know enough about, I guess, Confucianism. That’s like. I don’t know enough about their metaphysics to really understand, like, where your average Chinese person stands vis a vis, like a soul.” (03:51)

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• On the strategic visibility of Olympic starlets:
  “Kate made a really good point that it does have this like psyops quality. Yeah. Where they’re almost too perfectly like geometrically and geographically opposed. One’s got an Asian dad, one’s got an Asian mom.”
  —Anna (00:27)

• On Olympic allegiance:
  “She’s playing for the wrong team. She’s kind of a defector.”
  —Dasha (00:16)

• On the shadowy origins of Eileen Gu:
  “Whether it was an IVF or a sperm egg situation. Unclear.”
  —Anna (01:39)

• On the impact of China’s family planning policies:
  “I traumatized from drowning girl child in Yangtze River. CCP say no second child I make into handbag.”
  —C (03:08)

• On cultural differences in risk and creativity:
  “They just have like a weird insectoid alternate universe approach to like childbirth and child rearing.”
  —Dasha (03:31)

• On metaphysical uncertainty:
  “I don’t know enough about their metaphysics to really understand, like, where your average Chinese person stands vis a vis, like a soul.”
  —Anna (03:57)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:02 – 01:10: Introduction of Eileen Gu and Alysa Liu, their “opposed” family stories
• 01:10 – 01:55: Deep dive into their parents and public speculations
• 02:31 – 03:08: Surrogacy, New Yorker article, Chinese-American childbearing
• 03:08 – 03:31: Black humor on one-child policy trauma
• 03:31 – End: Riffs on Confucianism, uncreative stereotypes, and existential musings

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Summary Note:
The episode exemplifies Red Scare’s signature mix of cultural criticism and sardonic wit, using the saga of Gu and Liu as a springboard for a larger dialogue about family, race politics, and the surreal theater of global identity performance.

Transcript

[A]

Well, so the Olympics.

[B]

Yes. And we have two beautiful princess Hapa Weijun, Olympic gold medalists. Eileen Guessa Liu.

[A]

Kind of only have one because Eileen Gu plays for China.

[B]

She's playing for the wrong team. She's kind of a defector.

[A]

She is.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Much like Alyssa Liu's father. They are. Kate made a really good point that it does have this like psyops quality. Yeah. Where they're almost too perfectly like geometrically and geographically opposed. One's got an Asian dad, one's got an Asian mom.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Eileen Gu. Unclear if she's an IVF baby.

[B]

Yeah. Steve Sailor makes the point that while Alyssa Lou's heritage and background are pretty much more or less known, her dad's open about it. Arthur Lou was a guy who fled China as a defector during Tenement Square because he hated communism and he established a successful law practice.

[A]

But he was also part of this like proto Fallon Gong type cult.

[B]

Yes, yeah, we'll get into that. But then Eileen Goo has a sexy and beautiful tiger mom who was a 40 year old single mom when she had her singer sing. Singer mom.

[A]

You're becoming wor.

[B]

We're going to be totally Chinese by

[A]

the time this episode's over.

[B]

Oh, right.

[A]

Who had a Red Fortune podcast. Some white sperm donor. Whether it was an IVF or a sperm egg situation. Unclear.

[B]

It's unclear. The Chinese media reports that he's a Harvard H man and possibly a boyfriend. Not a donor. Though there are no photos of Eileen Gu's mom visibly pregnant.

[A]

Well, that's so there's no photos of Michelle Obama pregnant either. Or Brigitte Macron.

[B]

But the Goos have been very tight lipped about her paternity.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

Yeah. And she's a freestyle skier. And then Alyssa is a figure skater. Just establishing the case.

[A]

And yeah, their victories come in an interesting moment because a couple weeks ago there was this article in the New Yorker about these Chinese people. The Chinese people seem very bullish on surrogacy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Chinese Americans and Chinese expats.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because obviously Chinese people don't be doing that because they have a one child policy. Yeah.

[B]

One child policy. And they're traumatized by the legacy of that where they were like taxed to

[C]

the guild 25 child policy. I traumatized from drowning girl child in Yangtze River. CCP say no second child I make into handbag.

[A]

That's okay.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So that. But also they, they. They just have like a weird insectoid alternate universe approach to like childbirth and child rearing.

[A]

Definitely.

[B]

Because they're risk averse.

[C]

And.

[B]

And uncreative.

[A]

Well, I don't know enough about, I guess, Confucianism.

[B]

Yeah, right.

[A]

That's like. I don't know enough about their metaphysics to really understand, like, where your average Chinese person stands vis a vis, like a soul.