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Clayton Morris
Wake up, everybody. Welcome into Redacted on this Thursday. I'm Clayton Morris.
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Natalie Morris
I'm Natalie Morris.
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Clayton Morris
And on this show, we cover the stories the mainstream media largely ignores. Of course, they largely ignored everything related to the Russian collusion hoax. And now there is a groundswell effort to have Hillary Clinton arrested. New bombshell revelations being dropped today from Senator Grassley's office around her direct involvement and approval in the Russian collusion hoax. We're going to show you the documents. And does this rise to the level of her being arrested in and maybe serving the rest of her days behind prison walls?
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Natalie Morris
I'm gonna tell you, this is the biggest smoking gun we have seen. Even if, you know, the Russia gate collusion, it's amazing to see this in writing. I'm. I'm shocked by it. So stick around for that.
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Colonel Douglas MacGregor
Maybe she could be cellmates with Ghislaine.
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Natalie Morris
There we go. Two peas in a pod.
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Clayton Morris
One of them will get out. Yeah.
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Natalie Morris
All right. We're also gonna talk about how many people have died in the war in Gaza, the war in Ukraine, because that is exceedingly hard to pin down. Clearly, clearly they're lying to us. We're gonna talk to Colonel McGregor about that.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah. We're also gonna talk about this crazy deal that Trump just did with the eu. Many are saying, how in the world did the EU totally bend the knee to President Trump? There's like, nothing beneficial to the EU in this whole tariff trade deal that President Trump just laid out. This seems like a huge middle finger to the European Union. What is going on here with this? We're gonna dive deep into that and so much more. And by the way, how did Canada suddenly become really an anti Christian country? We're going to talk about all of that and more on the show today, but we don't want to waste any more time. We want to get right to what's going on with the wars. And an update here. It's time to get an assessment of the war in Ukraine and the genocide in Gaza. How many people have died From a military perspective, what's next in Russia? Like, we talk about 30,000 foot level discussions about these wars, but militarily, like on the ground, what is next now? What's next for Israel in their Greater Israel land grab project, which of course has been rolled out since 1948. During yesterday's interview with Professor John Mearsheimer, Tucker Carlson sort of echoed our frustration here at Redacted when he asked this question about the number of dead Ukrainians and Palestinians. Watch. It's weird that in 2025, we can.
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Colonel Douglas MacGregor
Measure everything from your heart rate to sunspots that we don't know. How many people were killed in Russia.
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Clayton Morris
Ukraine or Palestine, we can't even get.
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Colonel Douglas MacGregor
I've never met anyone who can give me a hard number on Russian casualties, Ukrainian casualties or dead Palestinians in Gaza. That's weird.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah, it's weird. Yesterday we reported how Ukraine is now allowing grandfathers to fight in the war. Zelensky signed a law allowing citizens over 60 to join the military during wartime, recruiting over 60 year olds, a clear sign the Ukrainian army has been decimated. Colonel Douglas MacGregor has warned us for years that the US is backing the wrong wars, losing credibility by the day. Let's take a look at the scoreboard in Ukraine and Israel where our tax dollars are being funneled. Right now in Ukraine, the much hyped counteroffensive failed. NATO is fracturing many people calling for it to be disbanded. Now With President Trump's 10 day deadline looming over Russia, Kiev is scraping the bottom of the barrel right now, drafting men in their 60s. Russia isn't retreating, they're advancing. So why would they blink at all with this 10 day threat from Trump? Meanwhile in Gaza, we're watching the unthinkable become routine. Ralph Nader, remember Ralph Nader, former presidential candidate, says the death toll is approaching half a million. And now Israel has moved to annex the so called buffer zone. Land that was once Palestinian. This isn't defense, this is conquest. So what are we really witnessing here? Two wars, both sold to the public as moral crusades, but both spiraling into something far darker. Colonel Douglas MacGregor is here to help make sense of all of this. Colonel, good to see you. I just wanna, I really wanted to get an assessment of where we were in both of these conflicts right now. Is there an end game here and can you think, do you think you have a hard and fast number on Ukraine? Let's start with Ukraine first we get to Gaza. How many Ukrainian soldiers have been killed in this? Do you have a close to a hard number of that in this war?
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Natalie Morris
You're muted, sir.
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Clayton Morris
Oh, you're muted.
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Ralph Schoellhammer
I have a visitor right now and she's interfering with it. She's to arrival.
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Natalie Morris
So cute.
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Ralph Schoellhammer
What I was going to say is that. Yeah, my sources that are on the ground largely in Poland, to a lesser extent in Ukraine and inside Russia, they tell me 1.8 million dead is a good number for the numbers of Ukrainian soldiers who've been killed. And if you look at that number, you've got to also assume that there are at least as many wounded, probably more, and most of those wounded will never return to duty. In other words, they're so severe that they're permanently invalids, they can't contribute anymore, which explains why they're now scraping the bottom of the barrel, literally, by bringing in 60 year old, 65 year old men. It's a catastrophe. Now why is this the case? Because for the last, I would say six months, easily, the Ukrainian military, particularly its army, but the military in general, has been failing badly against the Russians and they are in a state very similar to the German army as it disintegrated at the end of the Second World War. If you go back to 1944 and 45, most of the heavy casualties that the Germans took came in the last six to nine months of the war. That's when things are falling apart and you have large numbers of people who are trying to disengage, retire to new positions, or simply fall back to what they hope will be safety. And as that happens, you're seeing all the things that are being broadcast on your screen now fall on them by the thousands. I think last night it was 700 plus drones in Kiev, I don't know how many missiles and rocket artillery. But you're talking about a world in which there is no rest, a world in which there is no hiding, there is no peace, there's no concealment. And so 1.8 million is, is, I think, very accurate. Now some people insist they're more dead than that. That may well be the case, but.
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Clayton Morris
Certainly not less 1.8 million. I mean, I just, just dwell on that for a second because what the Ukrainian numbers are right, like Ukraine has told us, like maybe 200,000 if we're lucky.
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Ralph Schoellhammer
I mean, well, Clayton, Natalie, we've been dealing with this narrative that's just based on lies created by MI6 in London and CIA in Langley. They of course are joined at the hip with the Mossad. So you're talking about this large intelligence complex that has a media that's willing to cooperate. So what you hear in the mainstream media, of course are also lies because that media is supportive of these policies. So, so when you look at the street banks and their, their owners, the private equity gurus, the, you know, the oligarchs that have billions plus the media and Hollywood, obviously you put those together and now you have the intelligence apparatus which is penetrated and full of what we used to call neocons, I don't know what you call them now. Globalist maniacs. I have no idea. But they are 100% behind what's happening. And you have a Congress. And I would say, on average, they all have a cocktail level of familiarity with reality. So they. They actually believe whatever they're reading in the mainstream media, and they believe whatever the assessments they're shown from the CIA and others. So the truth is dead. The only place you get the truth is to go to alternate media. Again, as I said before, people like you out there are actually searching for and finding the truth. But most people just repeat whatever the narrative is, it comes down to the sources I just named.
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Natalie Morris
Now, what about Russia's military strategy? Because they are not losing. They are not being pushed back along the battlefront. And in fact, when you look at the maps, it shows that Ukrainian troops are not even there to push back. They're centered along the border with Russia, not in the contested region. So why would Russia respond to a threat from President Trump? And do you think Russia has any qualms now about going up against old men? I want to ask you. Maybe you can ring in on this as well. You've had experience in the Pentagon. What would you do with elderly men in your ranks?
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Ralph Schoellhammer
I would give them a chance to surrender, and I'm sure the Russians will. The Russians have not being as bloodthirsty and barbarous as claimed, they've actually been very receptive to people on the Ukrainian side that wanted to surrender. And the Ukrainians that have surrendered have all reported that they've been treated well, they've been well fed, cared for in most cases. I was reading a transcript of a radio transmission recently where a Ukrainian officer in command of what was left of his company, which was very small, decided to surrender to the Russians because he said, there's no way the. The injured men that have survived with me are going to be cared for by the Ukrainians. They have no medical infrastructure. They can't evacuate anybody. So when you go forward to the front, you fight there, and that's where you die. So under those circumstances, what are you going to do? They'll surrender. I'm sure they will. And the Russians will be happy to take it, because the more people that surrender, the fewer people you've got to fight. But I think it's important for us to understand that we have lied so prolifically for so long to the Russians. They don't believe anything we say anymore. And they certainly don't pay any attention to President Trump's threats. President Trump is like the weather. It depends on which way the wind is blowing is what he's likely to say or not likely to say. And his threats, what are they? That they're going to add sanctions. And in order to add sanctions, you're threatening the rest of the world if it does business with Russia or business with China or somebody else. It's absurd. This is all going nowhere. And unfortunately, most Americans, they just turn on the television. They all. Well, he's a tough guy. That's right. Let's get those guys. They don't know what they're listening to, and they don't understand it. Because right now, I can tell you the Russians are prepared for World War Three. They said it. As far as they're concerned, it's already begun. We don't understand that A lot of these sanctions that we're talking about are the equivalent of warfare. You know, when you, when you sanction countries, when you steal $300 billion of sovereign national wealth from the Russians on the, on the assumption that you're somehow or another morally superior and could do whatever you want, you're effectively declaring war on the Russian state and its people. And that's where we are. We don't get it. Recently, I was talking to some people inside the Beltway. They said, well, you know, if this doesn't work, you know, we'll have to use Tomahawks.
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Clayton Morris
What?
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Ralph Schoellhammer
Tomahawk missiles. But have you lost your mind? You think the Russians are going to sit there and say, oh, well, look, that's a Tomahawk. Gosh, I guess these Americans are really upset. They're going to strike. First of all, they'll shoot them down. They're, they're, they're not supersonic. Well, some of them are, but they're not hypersonic. And they'll shoot them down and then they'll respond. And if they're shot from Germany or shot from Poland or Lithuania, I would expect the Reshniks to come in and obliterate the. The point from which they were launched. Is this what we want?
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Natalie Morris
We have a comment here that says, didn't you used to be pro Trump? We're not here to be pro any one person or administration. We're here to talk about the reality that we live in. So you very much could like President Trump and still not like what, how this is played, playing out in the battlefield. So people are confused by this lack of tribalism.
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Ralph Schoellhammer
Well, Natalie, you know, when I spoke to Trump privately, and this is back in November and then in April and November of 2020, I was a very different man. This was A man who felt strongly that we should withdraw our forces from Europe. The Europeans should ultimately be their own first responders. I think he's 100% right. I thought so then, I still think so now. He absolutely rejected the notion that Russia or China posed an existential threat to us. When I argued that the real existential threat to the United States emanates from the Caribbean basin and Mexico and the drug cartels as a result of the human trafficking and drug trafficking, he agreed. You know, that's, that's 2020. And if you go back to when he ran for office this time around in 2024, most of what he said tracked with what he's always believed in the past. But he's gotten in there and he's done 180, 80 degree turn. He is clearly the hostage or captive or prisoner of the big lobbies, whether it's the Israel lobby or the war lobby or the pharmaceuticals or anything else. And I think that's where we are. And so under the circumstances, what am I supposed to do? Continue to say I love Donald Trump? Well, I like him personally, but I think he's leading us down the path to destruction now.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah, you could be like these, like other conservative influencers who just want to do interviews with Trump administration officials. So they kiss his ass and they're.
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Natalie Morris
Or make excuses.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah. And you know who they are. You know who I'm talking about. But we're not gonna do that on this show. And because we don't have to answer to anybody and we don't have any big, you know, big backers financing us that we have to answer to that. So we're going to be critical and praise him when he does something great and criticize him when he does something like this. So I want to turn, before we get you out of here, Colonel, on to Palestine, onto the genocide in Gaza. Ralph Nader. Honestly, I haven't heard Ralph's name come up in a long time. But in an interview, he just posted this about that the death toll is approaching half a million. Because I'm trying to get real numbers here. You know, again, in Tucker's discussion with John Mearsheimer, this seems to be the big frustration. And Ralph Nader says 500,000 dead in Gaza. John Mearsheimer yesterday saying it's hard to get an accurate number because so many of them are just buried under rubble from the onslaught from the Israelis. Do you have a number assessment that you know of from your sources?
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Ralph Schoellhammer
I've seen some assessments that have ranged from 70,000 up to 450,000. I'm sure that Professor Mearsheimer is right in the sense that there are lots of dead, unfortunately, about which we know nothing. And we can't go in there without teams to verify or conduct investigations. That's not going to happen. As long as the Israeli state exists, they're going to cover up or conceal whatever the truth is. They. They long since abandoned telling the truth about anything. So at this point, and I have a lot of respect, by the way, for Ralph Nader, I think he's a. A man of real integrity, character and courage, even if I don't agree with him, whenever you listen to Ralph Nader, he's telling you the truth. That as he knows it, and he's trying to tell it in a way that makes sense. So I'm afraid that Ralph's number of a half a million is plausible. But my sources, obviously, in Israel have dried up completely, because unless you are 100% with them, you're against them as far as they're concerned, right?
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Natalie Morris
As he points out in this radio interview, even Israeli reporters are not allowed to see the truth. They're not allowed. There was a BBC reporter this week who was flying over Gaza and was forbidden from filming out the window of the plane. Ralph Nader says, you know, you have this tiny enclave the size of Philadelphia, 2.3 million people, and they're hit with everything you can think of. Bombs, artillery, sniper fire, denial of food, water, infectious diseases, destroying homes and apartment buildings. And yet we're supposed to believe that most of them are still alive, that 97 out of every 100 Gazans are alive? He says, what are they made of, steel and asbestos? No, they're flesh and blood. They're families like us. They're women and children and elderly and the likes. And so we can't get an assessment. But we have to remember that they're not superhumans. They're like us. So how could we expect a population to survive this?
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Ralph Schoellhammer
Well, you just brought up something that needs to be understood, and that is that as far as the Israeli are concerned, they are not us. They have nothing to do with us. In other words, these are subhumans, and they richly deserve to be exterminated. You can turn on the Knesset when it's broadcast or Israeli television, and Ben GVIR and others of his ilk will be happy to tell you that. So will Benjamin Netanyahu. Now, we need to understand something, that the elimination of the Palestinian population from both Gaza and the west bank is ongoing, and we are, unfortunately, accomplices in this thing, which. Which is pretty awful. And somebody said, well, we have a lot of people in this country that don't belong here and should be expelled. I said, well, of course, but the people you're talking about rounding up these illegal aliens, this is not their country. They weren't born here. They have no connection to it. But the people that live in Gaza and the west bank, well, their ancestors have been there for 2,000 years. They do have a right to live. There is a vast difference between expelling illegal aliens and trying to expel Palestinians. But this is ongoing. It's not going to stop. And it's part of the larger process. You mentioned, the Greater Israel Project that's pressing ahead in Syria. And in order to secure Israeli control of southern Syria, they plan on annexing the areas that belong to the Druze that run along the border with Iraq and all the way up to Iran. And, of course, they also have an area in northern Syria, Rojava, which is considered Kurdistan. And all of this borders Turkey. In the middle of this is this jihadist Sunni, you know, Islamist state that's emerged under this man, Jilani, that President Trump greeted and warmly embraced as a fine young man who is, as far as I can tell, just a war criminal and a mass murderer. And he's also trying to kill Alawites, Shiites, Christians, anybody else who is not a Sunni Islamist that bends the knee to him. So we have a catastrophe in Syria, all for the purpose of expanding Israel and encircling Iran. And this particular corridor that runs from Israel and its border all the way up on the far eastern and northern side of Syria reaches to Azerbaijan, which has now become a platform for attack against Iran. It certainly was during the missile strikes. It continues to be that. And it's being used also to split Iran from Russia. So now we're talking about 40, 50,000 Russian troops on the border with Azerbaijan. We seem to think that somehow or another, Russia is doing so poorly in Ukraine that it can't cope with Azerbaijan. I think we're about to get an education. That's not true. As you point out, that war is coming to a close. The difference is that in Ukraine, the Russians are moving like a giant vacuum cleaner. They're simply picking up every remaining Ukrainian soldier, and anyone that doesn't surrender is killed. Because they want to be sure when they move on Kiev, and they will, and south to Odessa, that there's nothing behind them that can interrupt or disrupt their operations taking them further west. So we have two things happening right now. They're anti Russian in the Middle east as well as in Ukraine. And all of this is bound up with the Greater Israel Project. And by the way, the Mossad is equally engaged along with the MI6 and the CIA in Ukraine and has been almost from the beginning.
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Natalie Morris
For goodness sakes.
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Clayton Morris
Real quick, we had a comment here from one of our viewers that asks this question. Is it true that drug cartels are being trained in Ukraine on how to use drones? Like, are they literally turning to the drug cartels now to be carrying out these operations?
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Ralph Schoellhammer
Well, I don't know that they've turned to the drug cartels as much as the drug cartels have asked to come in there. And remember that Ukraine is a, is an organized crime state, much like Mexico. Everything revolves around money, human trafficking, drug trafficking. That's another reason the Russians want to shut this down. It's another reason why we should be interested in shutting the war down. I don't know how many women and children are missing from Ukraine. I don't even want to begin to guess, but I'm sure it's substantial. And then the drugs that pass through there, and we know the black market for all of the equipment that we send over there reaches all the way down into Kosovo and all the way to North Africa and, and back to Mexico. So, yeah, the drug cartels are in there. They're trying to train their people how to use these first person view hand launched UAVs, or drones, as we call them. No doubt about it. Criminality, terrorism, corruption, all of those things go together. And Ukraine.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah.
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Natalie Morris
That's why we need what the Senate Appropriations Committee just approved, which is an $853 billion defense bill, because we know a lot of that is shifty. Money gets stolen, gets in the wrong hands. It includes $800 million for Ukraine, even though the Pentagon didn't ask for it. The Senate just said you're taking it. We love war. That's what we do. So, Colonel MacGregor, thank you for letting us know what really happens.
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Clayton Morris
Sobering as always. Thank you, Colonel.
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Ralph Schoellhammer
Natalie, Just keep in mind some of that money's never going to go to Ukraine. It's just going to be washed through the system into the Defense Department and back to the defense industries and show up as contributions to congressmen and senators. There's a reason everybody on the Hill, just about everybody's, a multimillionaire. That's something I would pay attention to.
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Natalie Morris
Well, that's why we have to work hard to be taxed to afford it.
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Ralph Schoellhammer
So, yeah, so we can Stop talking about beef jerky. Come on. Now. We got to.
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Natalie Morris
The colonel logged in and we were having a discussion about beef jerky. Talk a blue streak about it.
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Clayton Morris
In our pre show we were talking about like low carb, good snacks. Yeah, that was our pre show.
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Natalie Morris
Also, I'm a big fan of pork rinds.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah. Colonel, great to see you. Now you're making me hungry. Thanks, Colonel.
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David Crayton
Bye.
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Ralph Schoellhammer
Bye.
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Clayton Morris
All right, coming up on the show, we're going to talk about the EU Why did they bend the knee to President Trump? They're literally getting seems like shafted in this new deal. But why did Brussels bend the knee? We're going to talk with Ralph Schoellhamer about that in moments. And we're also going to talk about Hillary Clinton and should she be arrested. New revelations, bombshell revelations about that coming up. We're going to go in detail about all of this new. This may be the largest smoking gun to date and we've got the receipts. We're going to show you on Hillary Clinton in just moments. But first, I just found something wild about stem cells. Stem cells are like tiny repair crews in your body and they go to fix things and need to be fixed. This is Ronnie Coleman, eight time Mr. Olympia man who squatted 800 pounds like it was nothing, sharing how stem cells helped him when nothing else could. Show this. Watch this. When you went on Rogan, he wanted to refer you to stem cells. For the last two years I've been.
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Ralph Schoellhammer
Getting stem cells and it's been the best thing that has ever happened to.
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Clayton Morris
Me in my life. Really? Yeah.
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Ralph Schoellhammer
But you gotta go out of this country to do it because they don't really allow the real stem cells that comes from the placenta, you know?
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Clayton Morris
Yeah, they don't allow that here in the United States because politics. What exactly is stem cells? So my understanding is that they're like blank cells that can transform to anything you surround themselves with.
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Ralph Schoellhammer
They'll turn into that. So if you inject them in your.
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Clayton Morris
Leg, they'll turn into leg cells.
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Ralph Schoellhammer
It wipes out the pain I go.
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Clayton Morris
Through because I have a herniated disc.
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Ralph Schoellhammer
In my upper back still. Soon as I get the stem cell injection, it completely goes away.
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Clayton Morris
And how much is it?
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Ralph Schoellhammer
2800 per injection.
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David Crayton
Where do you go?
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Ralph Schoellhammer
Puerto Vallarta, Mexico.
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Clayton Morris
Well, the thing about stem cells is they are expensive. You have to go to Mexico to get these. You don't want to go there to get them. Stem cell treatments have the potential to generate, regenerate joints, repair spinal injuries, even reverse organ Damage. But in the US most of these therapies are restricted not because and safe but because they threaten the big profits of big pharmaceutical companies, insurance companies, hospital systems, all of that. If people could naturally get this without surgery or prescriptions, those industries would lose billions. So here is doctor, here's Harvard's Dr. William Lee talking about using similar supplements that Black Forest supplements have developed with their alternative with their cocoa flavanols. So listen to this. And this is how they're going to get the same benefits without having to go to Mexico. Watch this. If you take the really dark chocolate, like 73% cacao, the really dark chocolate and you make it into a high flavanol hot chocolate drink and you have it twice a day. This was the clinical study they found in people who wound up actually having drinking the hot chocolate twice a day over the course of a month, they doubled the number of stem cells compared to the people who didn't drink hot chocolate. Right. So when you and I are growing up, right, in grade school, we learned from our teachers that starfish can regenerate, salamanders can regenerate. Regenerate. But people can't regenerate, right?
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Ralph Schoellhammer
Can't grow a new arm.
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Clayton Morris
It's true, you can't grow a new arm. But we do regenerate. We regenerate every day. We know that we regenerate because our hair falls out and grows back. Our gut lining grows back, Our livers can grow back. If you actually remove part of your liver, it'll grow back. Our skin grows back. You know, our bodies possess the ability to regenerate through stem cells. So this isn't your average cocoa. It's a stem cell power up. Mix it in coffee, protein shakes. It tastes fantastic and the benefits are real. No sugar, only 20 calories. If you're experiencing, experiencing significant aging, slow recovery, weak immunity, or just feeling off, blame your lazy stem cells. But guess what? Cocoa flavanols activate them like a fountain of youth in a scoop. So go to our description or our pinned comment blackforestsupplements.com redacted Try it out. Get 40% off for the next 48 hours. Scan the QR code there on your screen.
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Natalie Morris
Blackforestsupplements.com redacted well, Europe secured itself a truly krapolka crapola. I wanted to say that didn't come out. It's crappy crapola. Crappiest. It's a terrible economic deal with President Trump. Ralph Schoellhamer is in Austria, which is already an Expensive place. And we would like to congratulate him because his life is going to be more expensive. But first, let me catch you up on why European Commissioner Ursula von der Leyen announced this economic deal with President Trump over the weekend. Here is a bit of a summary that Europe will invest some $600 billion in the U.S. spend 750 billion on American energy because they don't have their own and commit to purchasing US made military equipment. And AI but didn't von der Leyen just push through a 2 trillion, 2 trillion, no, 2 trillion euro budget which promised to invest in European made military technology. So they're doubling down in Europe on weapons purchases. And how are they gonna pay for this? Well, obviously the budget shows they're going to tax their citizens heavily. Even though most EU countries are already above the Maastricht Treaty, 60% debt to GDP limit, they're just going to take on more. They're just following in American footsteps. Charge it up, folks. Ralph, thank you for joining us. Let me know, how do Europeans feel about this? Do they understand just how expensive this will be for the European worker?
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Mike Krupa
Listen, coming on after Ronnie Coleman, something to cross off my bucket list and adjusted a piece of chocolate cake so my stem cells are also. So you know, I'm splendid. But on a more serious note, well, there are two things that are important. One is that, yes, I think this was a clear sign that the United States have the upper hand. So that's one. Number two, we don't really have a written document here. All of this was agreed, but it's at best verbally and some things like the 750 billion in US energy, the United States don't at the moment produce energy of that value. And the European Union, they would basically have to give up everybody else whom they're buying from and then some to come to that number. So these numbers I think are more symbolic if you want than going to have a real effect. However, and I think that's important. This is a clear signal by the United States to tell the Europeans, we've never said it, but now it's obvious you guys are weak and we take advantage of the weakness. And to be quite honest, I think this is potentially a good sign if Europe wants to get serious, if Europe wants to be a player of the game and not just a piece on the board. This was a warning by the United States. We will see whether or not we're going to take it seriously.
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Clayton Morris
Some people have called this the Suez moment for Europe, a clear sign of imperial decline for The European Union handing over the Suez Canal. This is. And this is exactly what Europe has done. Do you buy that argument that this is like a major capitulation now for Europe?
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Mike Krupa
Politically? Yes, politically, I think that is correct. On the other hand, and you guys know this better than I, because you lived in the United States and you lived in Europe, it's a little bit odd when I read these articles that say that Europe is now a vassal or has been enslaved, as some commentators say, by the United States. The average European has five weeks of paid vacation, gets 14, not 12, gets 14 monthly salaries. We work fewer hours. We have more paid sick days. So if we are the vassals and the slaves and you are like the masters who make it, you know, comfortable in their hammocks, this picture, I think, is a little bit an exaggeration. The reason why Europeans are economically weak, the reason why we are not a geopolitical power, is because we didn't do anything. And Natalie pointed this out. If Europeans want to arm up, whether or not that's a good idea is a separate question. We no longer have the industry. So the only place that we can buy weapons would be either China or the US and what Trump accomplished is he made absolutely clear, if you guys gonna buy a gun, you're gonna buy a gun that is made in the United States. So from the American perspective, I think this was a victory. This was America first in action. Well done to President Trump.
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Natalie Morris
Now, you're right in that all we have is this press statement from Ursula von der Leyen on the agreement. We don't have it in writing, which we do have, though. The 2 trillion euro spending plan that was outlined in the. On the EU's website. It's called Europe's Budget, and it has all kinds of nonsense, which makes me really concerned for European life because now they're going to tax your. They call it own resources. Right. Which means we're going to put taxes on the resources that Europeans already have. That means you, as a European, own it. We're going to take it all kinds of fees. Carbon emissions on tobacco uncollected E waste was one that really put my spidey sense up. Because if you don't, if they don't know that you've recycled your iPhone, they're going to charge your country and your country will tack that on to your prices. So they're already doing crazy things, and so there's no reason to think that they won't do the same crazy things with this.
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Mike Krupa
No, they can't let go. I Mean, we had this conversation. I think the first time I came on redacted was now almost three years ago. They just can't let it go. There is in the document to talk about, Natalie. There is this idea they want the tax for every company that has a turnover of more than 100 million per year, but not profit turnover. So you can imagine if you run a company, this is insanity. If you want tax somebody, tax their profit, that's also mad. But to tax somebody's turnover is completely insane. Insane because they don't have the money. So they have to find all kinds of new creative ways to sluice it away from the little or the least things that remain that are still productive in Europe. And I don't know if you or your viewers have seen this, but the German auto industry is collapsing in front of our eyes. All the major car companies, Mercedes, BMW, Audi, vw, they all had horrible numbers that came out over the last couple of weeks. It's really, really bad and it's only going to get worse.
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Clayton Morris
What's this going to mean for countries like Germany, I mean, who rely on these massive exports to the United States, these sort of luxury brands? We've already seen you and I have cataloged this on the show over the years. All these German businesses closing down as a result of their own energy policies and other failed. Now it's like this, is this going to be like the nail in the coffin for a lot of these businesses?
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Mike Krupa
Oh, absolutely. I mean the car industry in Europe is still a main pillar of the overall industry and the overall wealth and living standards in Europe. So if they go under, this is going to be horrible for the rest of the continent. Listen, I don't enjoy being a doomsday sayer, but you just hit the nail.
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Ralph Schoellhammer
On the head, Clay.
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Mike Krupa
The Europeans had a very specific economic model and this was a kind of neo mercantilist model. We wanted to be the champions of exporting stuff. The United States for a long time were the champions of importing and consuming stuff. And Donald Trump justifiably so said, listen guys, we need to find some balance in the future because and he's right about this. If you guys think celebrate being exporters, that means that being an importer apparently is not that great. Or if you say that running a positive trade balance is awesome, that having a negative trade balance apparently is not so awesome and he wants to counteract this a little bit, which is absolutely fine. But the Europeans are not prepared for that. The Chinese, by the way, on the other hand, and this is why the negotiations with the Chinese now have again been pushed back. The tariffs have again been pushed back by 90 days. Is the Chinese have been playing their cards much better because they export stuff to the United States. The United States States actually need. The Europeans export stuff to the United States very often that are not required for American industry. Those who are, by the way, are exempt from the 15% tariff. But other things like Gucci bags and Italian cheeses and French wine, yeah, you're going to have the tariffs because America doesn't need that to survive, but European industry and European companies need to export it to survive.
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Natalie Morris
Right. Well, Ralph, thank you so much for ringing in on this. I mean, I just don't see. I feel really badly for the Europeans who are there, who life is just gonna get more and more expensive, more and more restrictive, and what are you gonna get from it? I mean, the language is very much, you know, we love innovation, we love our companies, but the actions are just the opposite. So I feel sad for, you know, the cost of living for working class people.
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Mike Krupa
The issue is, this is the problem. We were a little bit spoiled by the 90s and early 2000s when everything seemed to run on autopilot. And if everything runs on autopilot, it doesn't matter if you have incompetent politicians now that the world is in a new great power competition on whose ever side you are. But now you actually need competent people to play the game. And Ursula von der Leyen, unfortunately, is a good example. We don't have competent politicians at the moment. And this is why you then end up with deals like this, because the Europeans could have anticipated Trump returning to power. Trump made absolutely clear during his campaign starting in 2023, what he's going to do. None of this should be a surprise for anybody who listened to his campaign, but the Europeans, they put their fingers in their ear, believe that Kamala Harris or that Joe Biden is going to win. And now they have to live with the consequences of their decisions.
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Clayton Morris
Ralph Schoellhammer, host of the hammertime podcast. Check it out. Always great to have Ralph here. Ralph, what time is it there in Austria right now?
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Mike Krupa
It's half past ten.
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Clayton Morris
Half past ten at night. So thank you for staying up with us late as always. Great to see you anytime. Appreciate it, Ralph. Have a great night, my friend. Thanks so much. Okay.
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Natalie Morris
All right, Coming up, we also have Mike Krupa, who's in the same time zone, so we'll get to him so he can hit his bedtime.
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Clayton Morris
Well, we're going to talk to Mike in a second here, Dr. Krupa out of Poland to talk about these protests that have erupted in Poland over Ukrainian refugees and the violence there. There was actually an attempt to bomb a tenement house in Warsaw. Ukrainian national was attempting to do that. What is separating Poland from the rest of Europe right now? Both on their currency, economic numbers, everything else. So we're going to talk about that in a second.
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Natalie Morris
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Clayton Morris
Well, Poland is reaching a breaking point. Across the country, massive protests erupted as Polish citizens citizens demand an end to the unchecked flood of Ukrainian refugees. What started as temporary wartime hospitality has turned into a long term crisis. Now in that country. And many polls say they've had enough. Just in the past week, a Ukrainian national was caught trying to bomb a tenement house in Warsaw. So why is Poland being forced to bear the brunt of Ukraine's war fallout? And how close is this refugee crisis to boiling over? Joining us now from Warsaw, Paul, Poland, is Dr. Mike Krupa, political scientist, columnist, expert on Polish national policy. He's been sounding the alarm long before the mainstream Media caught on. Dr. Krupa, welcome back to the show. Great to see you.
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Colonel Douglas MacGregor
Great to see you guys again. Good evening from Polska.
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Clayton Morris
From Polska, from Warsaw. Yeah, late night there. Thank you so much for joining us. So I want to talk about these protests first. What are we seeing? What are they exactly protesting across Poland against Ukraine or Ukrainian refugees?
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Colonel Douglas MacGregor
So the majority of the protests that you showed in that clip there against the refugees basically began arose out of a frustration because what we were seeing at the German Polish border was in essence the German police trying to literally deport across the open border because we are in the Schengen zone directly into Poland. There are several bridges across the Polish German border in the west. And literally trying to force Poland to accept people who got into Germany from places such as Somalia, Afghanistan, north Central Africa, Syria, basically majority Islamic countries from the Maghreb in the Middle east that got into Germany but were deemed unwanted and therefore they were sort of forced onto the Polish population literally by the Germans. So the local populace started taking notice that, you know, these guys are just walking across the river, they don't look German by any chance, and they just walk straight into Poland. So there was a grassroots organization, it was called, well, it is called Brune Granitz, basically the movement to defend borders which started bringing in citizens to basically enhance the security at these former border checkpoints between Poland and Germany to not take in these so called refugees or engineers as they call them in Poland. And this transpired into a political crisis in the current coalition because the border guard, the police were deemed ineffective in doing their job. We heard also from the police itself and from the border guard that their hands were tied, that they couldn't do anything, that these were political decisions. But once the news came out that a lot of these Afghans or Germans or Somalis were crossing literally into Poland and being driven by the German police to the former border checkpoints, that's when the prime minister, Donald Tusk actually said that he had a discussion with Chancellor Mertz and he apparently, excuse me, made it clear to the German leader that this is unacceptable, that Poland won't be taking in these refugees, but the milk already spilled, so to say. So this then transpired into massive protests all across Poland, which addressed mostly the illegal immigration that we saw happening coming in from Germany, because this was in fact an illegal act. But there were also, at least I saw in several of these demonstrations, the issue, in my opinion, the larger issue of mass legal migration to Poland, which is something very critical and I think at this juncture, much more critical to the, to our future, to our internal labor market, internal security, and a host of other issues that were also brought up. So what you see is basically a confluence of two issues coming together. The illegal immigration issue that was being exported to us mainly from Germany, and the migration crisis that we are experiencing. Poland, due to mass legal migration, that we are bringing in more and more people from places especially first and foremost Ukraine, but also Bangladesh, Nepal and recently even South America.
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Natalie Morris
Well, what are some of the ways that this has affected life for Polish people? Is it unemployment? Is it increase in taxes? Is it, you know, rising rates of crime? Can you lay that out for us exactly what they're protesting in terms of how it affects their families?
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Clayton Morris
Well, sure.
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Colonel Douglas MacGregor
I think the most important issue that I, that, you know, solidified the, the protests all across Poland that we saw over a ago was the issue of security from the perspective of Western Europe. We've obviously, you know, seen the jihadi inspired terrorist attacks. We don't want that in Poland. But we're also seeing that people who have nothing to do with jihadist ideology that come to Poland from, for example, the Caucasus or former Soviet republics such as Ukraine, are bringing their own unfortunate criminal habits also into Poland. And these are not necessarily illegal immigrants, but legal migrants. And if you look at the Polish statistics recently, you'll notice that the majority of criminals in the foreign based statistics in Poland are Ukrainians. We have basically a phenomenon that we haven't seen since The Crazy Early 1990s in Poland of Georgian gangs stealing cars, beating up people, harassing people. And Georgians tend to be very, well, very aggressive when they're organizing into gangs. Something that Ukrainians haven't caught up onto in Poland fortunately yet. But unfortunately, the Georgian menace is, is pretty dangerous. It's pretty aggressive. The police in Poland are unfortunately understaffed. But there is a realization that we have a huge problem that not only stems from what's coming from Western Europe, but as of today, I would even say mostly from what we have opened up our borders to coming from the east. So as I said, the Caucasus, Georgia especially But also Ukraine. So internal security, the safety of families and basically people on the streets I think would be the, the fundamental issue that was brought up during these protests and that's why they were so radical in their messaging. But there is also obviously another host of issues such as the influence on the labor market and wage suppression of Polish workers that would demand a serious rethink of the current migration policy. Such as introducing what I'm advocating for at least in the last couple of months and years, a five year immigration moratorium to Poland.
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Clayton Morris
That'd be amazing. Well, maybe Poland be out in front on this. I want to get your take on this. Zero Hedge published this piece by the market ear the other day and it really talks about how Poland is winning. Postcard from Warsaw. Bullish Poland, a city that feels like a breath of fresh air. Warsaw specifically. All in Europe. Clean, safe, beautiful people, untouched by the urban decay and social tensions plaguing cities like Paris or London. Dare I say that Poland's refusal to bend on migration has kept its capital orderly and confident. And it goes through and kind of talks about how Warsaw is winning. Polish stocks have more than doubled since 2022. The zloty, the currency is strengthened versus as the US dollar. Donald Tusk saying we're not going to accept a single migrant, saying that in early 2024, with a strict no tolerance policy towards illegal immigration. Buying gold. Poland continues to buy as much gold as they can. And polls also know that in order to succeed you have to work hard. So all of this sounds great. Do you take umbrage with any of this?
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Colonel Douglas MacGregor
Well, I think if you were to stay in Poland a little bit longer, I think you would see some of the negative tendencies that we polls living in Poland on a day to day basis. See, obviously if you're in Warsaw, things might look a little different because Warsaw is the capital, Warsaw is shiny. Warsaw is nice. However, if you travel across Poland, you would see that we're not a monolithic country in this regard and we do have many, many problems that are alien to the typical latte sipping liberal in the capital of Poland. Obviously, I think if you come as a tourist to Warsaw, obviously you will notice that it's not London, it's not Stockholm, it's not New York. There's no rats doing, you know, you know, running around in the subway system. Exactly, exactly. You know, the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle vibes there. But, but yeah, if, if you stay longer, however, you do get accustomed to the problems that we're facing here in Poland and many of them Stem from mass legal migration. I keep repeating this because, you know, you mentioned Tusk saying we're not going to accept one migrant. Yeah, okay. But he was referring to illegal immigration, which in Poland right now is a very easy issue to sell because nobody likes illegal migrants. Everybody understands that the ones coming are usually coming from Islamic countries. You think Islam, you think terrorism, you think bombs, and so on. But the bigger problem is mass legal immigrant immigration, because in terms of culture, I'll give you an example. Just in the last couple of days, the Polish Ministry of Education has decreed that in grades seven to eight, Ukrainian will be now taught as a second language. So this is the direction that we're going.
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Natalie Morris
And I think that or mandatory from.
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Colonel Douglas MacGregor
From what I understand as an option, the current options right now were German and English for obvious, obvious reasons. But bringing in Ukrainian basically signifies that you're building a sort of parallel society because, I mean, we don't have a mass of Germans in Poland or a mass of Americans. You learn the language because you want to understand the world, but why would you want to learn Ukrainian, for example? So those language courses are obviously offered to Ukrainian pupils, Ukrainian students. A lot of people got ticked off at this because nobody, even people from the left and the liberals who live in nice, you know, gated communities and send their kids to fairly good public schools. But they notice, for example, that there are enough spaces in those public schools for Polish peoples because there's so many Ukrainians. And now we're giving them the option of studying their own language. Well, hello. What about assimilation? I thought we were a melting pottery building a multicultural society. Those are issues that haven't been brought up in the context of, as I said again, legal immigration. And I think things like this are going to have a much bigger, a much more significant impact on the future of a cohesive Polish society than the few Afghans and Somalis that are trying to cross the border from Germany, which obviously has to be stopped. But in terms of the mass and the scale of legal migration to Poland, we have to have a moratorium in the near future.
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Clayton Morris
Poland would be a shining beacon on a hill if they did that. Mike Rupa. Dr. Mike. Rupert, but great to see you from Warsaw, as always. Thank you for staying up late with us there. We appreciate it. Great to see you again.
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Colonel Douglas MacGregor
Thank you, guys. Take care. Hope to see you soon.
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Clayton Morris
You bet. Thanks, Mike. Appreciate it. All right, coming up on the show, we're going to talk about Canada. How did Canada become an anti Christian country? Popular Christian singer, worshiper, just there came Back to America kissed the ground when he returned, saying he couldn't believe how anti Christian that country has become. Also, the freedom convoy truckers in that country, they've been awaiting their sentencing now that they've been found guilty of mischief. And guess what? Could they be facing eight years behind bars thanks to the liberal Mark Carney government that wants to shame those who stood up to the tyranny of the Trudeau government. We're gonna talk about that in Canada in moments. But first. Well, you guys know I've been railing against these huge tech companies that want to own everything about us. They don't just want our money. They want to know everything about you. These sort of shadowy data brokers making a living compiling detailed profiles of your online activity, everything that you are doing. And they're selling them to marketers and other corporate interests. And it seems like the US Government is in lockstep with these companies. But there is a way to keep your browsing history truly private so that they cannot snoop on you. And I use it every day. I've got it on my laptop sitting right here in front of me. I have it on my Mac in my office. I have it on my iPhone. It's an app called Express vpn. One of the easiest ways for data brokers to track you is through your device's unique IP address, which also reveals information about your location. When you have ExpressVPN turned on, your IP address is hidden. That makes it much more difficult for data brokers to monitor, track, and monetize your private online activity. Now, I use it all the time, every day. We wouldn't be able to do our show because there are so many news websites that are blocked in certain countries because they don't want you to know the truth. Well, guess what? I jump on using ExpressVPN. I'm able to jump into a different country, use a different IP address, and able to get access to that information. So just one tap to turn it on and you are protected. It's that easy. So, guys, right now find out how you can get four months free by scanning the QR code right on your screen, clicking the link in the description box box below, or simply by going to expressvpn.com redacted. Get four months free just by scanning that QR code right on your screen or clicking the link in the description box below or simply going to expressvpn.com redacted. All right, well, thank you guys, by the way, I just want to say thank you guys for subscribing to our show. If you're not already a subscriber, please do. It's free, totally free. We're able to cover these stories. Again, free to you. We're alternative media. We're not funded by big pharma, we're not funded by Israel, we're not funded by apec. We're not funded by anybody. We are supported by you and the few sponsors that we have here on the show. So thank you guys so much for your support. Again, if you're watching us on Rumble, thank you for subscribing or following us there. Whatever they call, I think on YouTube, they call it follow. Now, they don't call it subscribe. I don't know. Anyway, follow us still. Subscribe on YouTube and follow on Rumble. Follow on Rumble. Subscribe on YouTube on X, I think it's follow. So anyway, it's all free. It's all free. So thank you guys. Anyway, let's talk about Canada. Now is Canada Now. An anti Christian country journalist, David Crayton covered the recent trip of American pastor and Christian musician to Canada. Here is his piece that he wrote for the Blaze Media. And when that singer Sean returned home this weekend after the start of a short Canadian tour, he did something he'd never done before. He fell to the ground and then he kissed American soil because he was shocked at the hostility towards Christianity in Canada. When did this happen? Maybe it's happened. I've been blinded to it. I didn't know. Ottawa journalist, independent journalist David Crayton joins us now to talk about that and more. We're going to talk also about the Freedom Convoy here in a second. But David, this is a part of the story I hadn't heard. You know, we're seeing obviously the persecution of Christians around the world covering the bombing in Gaza of a Catholic church. This is happening all over the world but Canada. When did this start happening?
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David Crayton
I'm not quite sure when it started happening, but we saw this demonstrated in a very sinister way last week when Sean Foyt, who is a Christian musician and pastor, came to Canada. And immediately he was assaulted by the mainstream media as being MAGA affiliated, quote, unquote, as being a friend of Donald Trump, quote, unquote, as being extremist, as being divisive. And why? Because he's an evangelical Christian and he came to Canada not to talk about politics. He came to Canada to preach, to sing and to worship Jesus Christ as Lord. And that's exactly what happened wherever he went in Canada. Problem was Clayton, everywhere he tried to go from Moncton to Toronto. The mayors of those cities actively intervened to have his event canceled. So he was forced to seek the assistance of local churches. And that's precisely what happened. Local churches hosted him, so he was able to follow through in a six city. But in every Canadian city from Moncton to Toronto, the local governments, the local mayors, tried to intervene to stop the event from happening. And he's coming back in August and he's already been told by Winnipeg that he's not welcome at that city, Central Park. However, folk, the great premier of Alberta, a good friend, Daniel Smith, has already said, sean, you're welcome to come to Edmonton and sing on the stairs of the legislature of the provincial legislature, because in Alberta, we're not anti Christian, but apparently in much of Canada, anti Christian sentiment reigns supreme. Christians are now third class citizens in much of Canada. And this is a land that was founded by Christians, evangelicals, mainstream Protestants, Roman Catholics. That's who founded this country. And we're now being told you're not welcome in the public sphere anymore. You can't talk in the public space because you're too divisive. And why is he so divisive? Well, apparently he's pro life, as I am. He's against critical race theory, as I am. He is opposed to the LGBTQ agenda, as I am. So I don't think that makes him extremist in any extent. It just makes him a evangelical Christian who's principled enough to believe in the Bible. And that's what he's all about. And if you watched the concerts he staged across central and eastern Canada, there were no politics. He wasn't talking about voting for Donald Trump. He wasn't talking about how great the MAGA crowd is. He preached the gospel. And if you watch these concerts, they were just like anything you might see at a Pentecostal church throughout Canada or throughout the United States on a Sunday morning, there was no difference. And this entire episode, Clayton, has disgusted so many Christians to say, you know, we became conditioned to this kind of behavior from local governments during the COVID pandemic. We became used to the police invading our churches, arresting our pastors, clearing out the people from the church, saying, you can't worship here. It's not safe. Why don't you go to a bar or a strip club? It's safer there. You can do that, but don't go to church on Sunday. And we became conditioned to this. And I tell you the height of absurdity here Clayton is when he tried to perform in Montreal and the woke mayor, Mayor Plante, of that Valerie Plante of Montreal said, you're not performing in this city. You're far too divisive. Spanish Catholic church offered him a place to play. And the police invaded that church. They prevented people from coming in. They blockaded the front door until Antifa arrived. And then they decided to perhaps go outside and see if Antifa was causing more trouble. Antifa literally threw a smoke bomb in the middle of the concert at Sean Foyt. The police did absolutely nothing to protect him. And they said at the end of the evening, hey, you might have had your concert, but the city's gonna fine you people for this. And sure enough, Clayton, the city of Montreal fined that Spanish Catholic Church $2,500 for hosting a Christian pastor. Since when I ask you, do you need a permit? Does a church need a permit to host a pastor or a musician in their church? This is a complete outrage. And this is why I'm saying Canada has become demonic, not just anti Christian. This is incredibly evil. What happened here last week?
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Clayton Morris
Well, he called it, in fact, Sean, when he returned, he said he saw Canada as being run as a demonic stronghold. That Canada is now a demonic stronghold. I mean, those are his words, not mine. And you're right, I mean, it's unbelievable to see even like the CBN like reporting, but that $2,500 been hit with that $2,500 fine just for hosting the church service. It's unbelievable. And what are they saying? What was their reasoning for issuing the fine? Like it's in his. So his views on sexuality, abortion, government overreach, that's a problem for the Montreal government. So he's not allowed to have to perform in a church. Were like, what was their reasoning for the fine and shutting it down?
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David Crayton
They had no reason, Absolutely no reason. And this is a product of COVID reasoning, which is we don't have to give you a reason for coming into your church and throwing people out. During COVID it was for health reasons. During this instance, it was for security reasons. Oh, we're worried that his presence in the city is going to cause some sort of very divisive, controversial reaction. And my response to that was, well, why don't we start banning Liberal party conventions? Because they're just as divisive and controversial wherever they have a convention. So when did it become illegal to be controversial or divisive? That's really the nature, that's the foundation of democracy, is division, that people don't have to agree on a one party state solution. People don't have to agree on everything that government tells them. So there's. The nature of a democracy is inherently to some degree divisive. We're not always going to agree on things, but we have. We're supposed to have something called freedom of religion. And I'm sorry, that's evanescent in Canada today.
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Clayton Morris
No, you would think we would have this. Certainly we understand this on the big tech platforms like YouTube suppresses our show. YouTube suppresses Tucker Show. YouTube suppresses so many shows that are, you know, that my show have, you know, your show that run counter. Thank God we have Rumble because our. Most of our audience is now moved over to Rumble. So, like we're streaming live right now. We expect that sort of on the big tech platforms. But when you have a constitution, you have a law of the land for the government to come in there and just shut down, freedom of expression, free speech in a church. I mean, this is authoritarian level. And this, that's what this is to me, this is fascism. That's authoritarian level. They love to throw around the term Nazis. I mean, that's exactly what this is. And the Carney government is allowing and facilitating this. Another piece of this you mentioned, Covid, is the Freedom Convoy sentencing. So you just penned this piece at the Blaze Media freedom convoy sentencing straight from the anarcho tyranny playbook. And you basically say that basically Chris Barber and Tamara Leash, two of the main organizers of the 2022 Freedom Convoy, could be locked up for years now. They were found guilty on mischief, which I don't think anyone could even under describe what that even was. Mischief. But now they've been awaiting sentencing, I mean, for. It seems like forever at this point, and they're not up until October. But now, like, word on the street is they could face up to eight years behind bars. This is outrageous.
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Natalie Morris
What.
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Clayton Morris
What do you know?
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David Crayton
Well, that's what the Crown Council, and for your American viewers, the Crown refers to the prosecution, which is of course in this case, the Ontario government. It's not actually the federal. A lot of people think this is. This is. Justin Trudeau started this whole thing. He invoked the Emergencies act, but it was Premier Doug Ford, the faux Conservative, the Red Tory premier of Ontario, who has been pushing this prosecution. I was there at this trial from day one. And that was early September, two years ago when this trial started. By the time they get their sentencing on October 7th, it's going to be literally 25 months of lawfare. And of course, we had last week. I went to the trial because I was expecting they were going to have the sentencing last week. I was informed upon arrival that, no, this was a sentencing hearing. It was going to be two more days of legal padding to put Tamara Leach and Chris Barber through a little more lawfare, a little more hell. And that's what this is all about. But the prosecution revealed at this point their documents stating explicitly they think these people are guilty of extraordinarily criminal. Get this. Extraordinarily criminal behavior. And that Chris Barber deserves eight years in jail. Tamira Lee, seven years in jail. And this is the part that really smacks a Bolshevism. The Crown wants to expropriate Chris Barber's truck from which he gains his livelihood. But it also happens to be an icon of the freedom convoy. And it was nicknamed Big Red. It became symbolic of the whole convoy experience. And this is how vindictive the woke prosecution is. They want to take his truck away and put him in jail for eight years. And it's absolutely astounding because I tell you, on the same week that the Crown announced that Chris Barber should go to jail for eight years for organizing a peaceful protest, for cooperating with the police on every opportunity. Opportunity. A couple in Calgary received six years manslaughter when their. When their child was killed at their hands. Six years. So you get eight years, potentially eight years for mischief, but you're getting off with six years for manslaughter. And in some cases, murderers are getting that or less in this country. And this is where I say a narco tyranny, because that describes a political system that persecutes its political rivals, that persecutes people who dare to question the political narrative of the government. They imprison them, they convict them, they arrest them, but it leaves the real criminals relatively alone. So this is why we have car thieves going to jail for maybe a week and getting out on bail and never being seen again. This is why we have people guilty of various forms of assault getting less than two years. And this is why we have killers going to jail for six years.
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Clayton Morris
And it's right out of the United States justice system. We had thugs that beat up these, you know, concert goers in Cincinnati, go into jail, get out on bond, $400, they're out. And then other individuals spending years behind bars for incredibly small amounts mischief or misdemeanors or other things like that. Well, we'll be watching it. So October, we have to wait until the sentencing, is that right?
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David Crayton
Well, this is the astounding thing, is that when I spoke to Tamara Leach when the sentencing hearing began, I said, when do you anticipate you're going to get the sentence and how long do you folks have to wait? And she thought, well, probably by mid August. The judge determined after at the end of the sentencing hearing that there would be a two month. We're going to have to wait literally until October 7th. But in August, they're getting together again and the Crown is going to put forth arguments on why it should expropriate or as I like to say, steal Chris Barber's truck. And what possible motivation could they have for that besides sheer vindictiveness and just sheer absolute larceny? It just amazes me how this clown show of a prosecution has even gotten this far with their arguments. There was never anything presented in the courtroom that suggested there was any violence or anything except peaceful protest being wrought by Chris Barber and Tamara Leach. And I have been there virtually for every court date listening to the so called evidence from the prosecution. And I have marveled that they were convicted at all. But I marveled that this even went to court because this is clearly a show trial. This is a Stalin a show trial. And Tamara and Chris are clearly political prisoners. I've taken that line from day one with this trial. I've never treated this as a truly criminal trial. To me, it's a Bolshevik show trial by not only the Doug Ford government of Ontario, but by his good friend, first of all Justin Trudeau and now his very good buddy Mark Carney. They're all in this together.
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Clayton Morris
Clayton, David Crayton, you can read these pieces over at the Blaze. Thank you as always, David. And follow David on X. He does great reporting up there in Ottawa. Thanks for keeping Them honest. David, great to see you.
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David Crayton
Thank you so much, Clayton.
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Clayton Morris
You bet. Thanks, David. All right, coming up on the show, we're going to talk about Hillary Clinton in moments and how the the movement to get her arrested has grown. We saw the smoking gun that maybe the biggest bombshell of all today dropped by Senator Chuck Grassley's office. We're going to dive deep into all of that and we have the receipts and we're also going to talk about, Oops, sorry about that.
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Natalie Morris
I'm muted. We're also going to talk about how can you prevent a child sex offender from surrogate and fathering a child via surrogate? Well, the state of Pennsylvania did not do that. A convicted sex offender was able to father a child via surrogacy. Now the state doesn't know what to do. This raises some really uncomfortable questions and we're gonna talk about that in a second. But first.
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Clayton Morris
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Natalie Morris
It's, I never saw, we would, I never thought we would see such a smoking gun. But this is Literally an email showing that she wanted to use the FBI and weaponize it against her political opponent. And the FBI went along with it under a hoax they thought up. It's outrageous to think that you are just able to do this. The rest of us would not be able to do this.
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Clayton Morris
So Senator Chuck Grassley has just released a declassified annex, as it's called, from the Durham investigation. And it is a bombshell. This document contains verified emails that Natalie was just talking about, showing Hillary Clinton operatives, at her request, pushing intentional disinformation and lies to the FBI. They knew it was fake, crafting a fake story about Russian hackers and Donald Trump, just dated before the 2016 election. And guess what? The FBI knew it was fake, but they ran with it anyway. Why? Because it was politically convenient. Also named in this report. If you read through it, I did, you get George Soros, the Open Society Foundation, George Soros, names peppered all throughout it. You get DNC Chairman Debbie Wasserman Schultz, among others. Lots of names in here. How is this? This, I mean, basically is how a banana republic operates, folks. But no, it's the United States.
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Natalie Morris
Well, I'm so hubris, though, also to think that I'm gonna do this and the FBI, which should have its own intelligence and know better, will bend to my whim.
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Clayton Morris
Can you imagine, like, sitting around an office and you're like, hey, I have an idea. We're gonna cook up this fake story. We're gonna push it out. Let's go to the FBI with a fake story, and you're gonna help us push this out there. I mean, yeah, it is incredible hubris. I mean, Mao level hubris.
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Natalie Morris
I have the FBI at the touch of a button. They will create an investigation under something that I make up. I can't imagine living under that illusion of power. But she had it. She had the power. The FBI did follow suit.
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Clayton Morris
Woojin says WikiLeaks already revealed this almost a decade ago. Well, yeah, big pieces of this, but not this particular piece of information. So let's look at this email that Grassley just released. July 27, 2016. Leonard Bernardo, Leonardo Bernardo writes, quote, that HRC approved, meaning Hillary Rodham Clinton approved Julia's idea about Trump and Russian hackers hampering US Elections. That should distract people from her own missing emails. Can you imagine? Let me read that again. HRC approved Julia's idea. So, yes, Hillary Clinton signed off on creating the entire Russian collusion hoax as a media distraction. The email goes on, even outlines exact talking points for the media to use including blaming the GRU and Russian VPNs, all designed to distract her from missing from her missing emails. Of course, the GRU is a Russian intelligence agency. They even name dropped CrowdStrike and Threat Connect as tools to feed this garbage to the FBI and the media. We know, we now know definitively that this wasn't an intel report. It was a PR campaign racked, wrapped up in a false flag. I mean, look at the bottom of this email on your screen here. In absence of direct evidence, quote, CrowdStrike and Threat Connect will supply the media, and GRU will hopefully carry on to give more facts.
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Natalie Morris
Facts should be in quotation mark. The part that really pisses me off as well is this. Say, something like a critical infrastructure threat for the election. So recall, we were not allowed to say things about critical infrastructure threats to the election in 2020, but in 2016, they used it as a host hoax, and the media ran with it. Not just called it a hoax, but called it real for years.
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Clayton Morris
When the Democratic national committee claimed in 2016 that their servers were hacked by Russians, they never allowed the FBI at the time. Well, I'm sorry, let me just go back a little bit here. Sorry. So, as I was saying, in the absence of direct evidence. Put that back up on the screen if we can. I mean, if we look at the bottom of this email, it says, quote, in the absence of direct evidence, CrowdStrike will supply the media. So what does that mean? Well, for context, when the Democratic national committee claimed in 2016 that their servers were hacked by Russians, they never allowed the FBI or any government agency to inspect those servers. Right. We all know that. Instead, the DNC hired CrowdStrike, a private cybersecurity company, to conduct the investigation. And then they released the bullshit facts that Russia had a hand in the hacking. The CEO of CrowdStrike, later, under oath, testified that there were lies, that these were lies. There was never any evidence that Russia did anything. He was forced to under oath. So they all knew it was a lie.
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Colonel Douglas MacGregor
I wonder how much Maddow got paid out of that.
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Clayton Morris
Because she was, like, the biggest proponent of it for what, three years?
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Natalie Morris
Oh, I mean, it. It unfolded like a documentary every night. As someone who was glued to it and absolutely convinced that because Rachel Maddow was so convinced, it must be a thing, and we're gonna see this fall apart any minute now. She never looked behind the curtain even once. Even a small peek behind the curtain would have told you that the Steele dossier was a sham. So.
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Clayton Morris
And she is. And she never apologized. For it either. But here's. Yeah, real quick, she's probably behind the curtain too.
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Natalie Morris
It's gotta be.
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Clayton Morris
Well, if it were media collusion, right? How much of the me, as they point out in this email. And the media will basically carry the water for us. So we'll just get right on the phone, we'll push this out. Remember, Hillary Clinton went on Rachel Maddow show, you know, multiple times.
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Natalie Morris
She did.
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Clayton Morris
And so you wonder how much collusion there was.
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Natalie Morris
And the impetus that that's being told to us here is because of the interest in the email scandal, the fact that she had her email on a private server and that is against government protocol and that just continued to gain steam. So they said we are doing this in order to divert attention, which it absolutely did.
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Clayton Morris
So they all knew this was a lie. But now take a look at this tweet that Hillary Clinton posted on October 31, Halloween, on 26, just days before the election. She writes, computer scientists have apparently uncovered a covert server linking the Trump Organization to a Russian based bank. She knew it was a fake. This wasn't speculation, it was her own campaigns fabrication. And then of course, at the bottom of this tweet, she attaches this long winded statement from Jake Sullivan, which is now Biden's national security advisor at the time, claiming that this was the most direct link yet between Trump and Moscow. This election interference. This is election interference at the highest level. And it came straight from Hillary Clinton's desk. But there's another big piece of this that is the CIA and the FBI's collusion in all of this. I'm more talking. We're talking Brennan, we're talking Clapper. So these two clowns just got together, Brennan and Clapper, you know, like, I don't know who's a famous like duo.
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Natalie Morris
Like Mutt and Jeff Abbott.
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Clayton Morris
Oh my God. I'm trying, I'm trying to think of a comedy dude. Abbott and Costello. Abbott. That's who I was trying to think of. My brain is fried. At the end of the week here, Brennan and Clapper, like Abbott and Costello, they get together and they just penned a piece in the New York Times and an opinion piece in the New York Times called let's Set the Record Straight on Russia and 2016. So this just comes out over the past 24 hours, these two disgraced intelligence heads get together and trying to rewrite history, pretending that they didn't play a central role in weaponizing this entire hoax. They claimed they were just reacting to intelligence at the time, only they were part of the intelligence laundering operation from the beginning, using friendly media like the New York Times and the Washington Post and Clinton allies to circulate these false stories.
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Natalie Morris
No, they were actively ignoring intelligence that told them. Them that this was a scam. So that's. That can't. It doesn't hold any water because, number one, they knew that it was coming. They had to know at the time that it was coming directly from hrc. And number two, if you look at the statement posted today by Tulsi Gabbard, Dni Gabbard, she points out how whistleblowers who were trying to warn that this intelligence was faulty were punished and threatened by the intelligence communities and, and their bosses where they worked. So, no, they were active. They were not just, oh, we just had to follow the trail. No, they were ignoring where the trail was leading, which would have shown that this was a hoax.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah. Oh, people are saying Beavis and Butthead. That's a good one. Beavis and Butthead, Laurel and Hardy. That's another good one here. So, so I love that the New York Times allowed them to use their platform once again to write another story.
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Natalie Morris
You know, doo doo heads.
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Clayton Morris
But also I love. Here, put this back up here because this is New York Times. I just want to show you guys, like, I don't pay. Like they, you know, I don't pay for the New York Times. And it, you know, you can clearly see when I log in here, this is my own screenshot. They want to get us to pay for it, literally. They want to monetize this story off of this whole catastrophe. So the New York Times is looking to make money for you to sign up just to pay for like a dollar just to get access just to this one article.
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Natalie Morris
Intelligence, lies.
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Clayton Morris
Intelligence. Beavis and Butthead, guys. It's unbelievable behind a page wall. So these are the same men who signed the phony Hunter Biden laptop letter in 2020.
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Natalie Morris
Oh, good point.
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Clayton Morris
Clapper and Brennan calling it Russian disinformation. They lied then, they're lying now. This is about a deliberate attempt to manipulate a US Presidential election using fabricated intelligence, government resources, and media collusion in the New York Times, Washington Post and elsewhere. And the woman at the center of it all, Hillary Clinton. Clinton. She knowingly peddled disinformation to the FBI, to the media, to the American people. And we now have the documents to prove it in email form. We had the testimony, now we have the documents. Arrest Hillary Clinton isn't just a slogan anymore, by the way. It's the number one trending topic today all over X, all over social media. Arrest Hillary. It's the only appropriate response to this level of, of corruption. Will the DOJ continue to look the other way? Will they actually go and make an arrest of her now, present this to a grand jury and indict her? Or will the American people finally demand full accountability for this, for this decades long lie and say, we demand that these people finally be held to account. So many people in our chat are like, ah, these people get away with it. They never get arrested. No one's ever walked away in handcuffs. Well, will Barack Obama, in his collusion with this, will Hillary Clinton finally be arrested?
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Natalie Morris
Can I just play a little devil's advocate here though? I just.
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Clayton Morris
Are you advocating for the devil, which is Hillary Clinton?
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Natalie Morris
I just wanna ask questions because I'm sure the FBI gets all kinds of crap tip offs about people who just hate their neighbor and want their neighbor punished by the government. And those people, do they go to jail? Is it illegal to provide a fake tip to the FBI? I literally don't know if that's illegal. And when we talked to George Papadopoulos the other day, who was prosecuted by the Russiagate investigation, the Mueller investigation, he kind of shrugged off Hillary Clinton's role in this because he said, well, she was a candidate, she was just doing all candidates lie. This was a political tactic, right? But she did in fact weaponize the justice system tape that took up, this took up American taxpayer dollars. So I'm just asking, I would like to know what about this is actually illegal?
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Clayton Morris
Okay? Under 18 US Code 1001, it is a federal crime to knowingly and willingly willfully making any materially false, fictitious or fraudulent statements or representation to the federal government, to the FBI with an intent to mislead or obstruct making false statements.
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Natalie Morris
And then here's another question.
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Clayton Morris
False reports up to at least five years in prison if national security issues are involved or like national election related issues are involved. So she could maybe serve up to five years, I guess.
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Natalie Morris
Okay, but what if she wasn't lying to the FBI? She was literally telling them, I want a fake investigation and they gave it to her. Is that, is there something illegal? Because it does not seem like anyone in the entire intelligence pushed back. They all said, roger that hrc, we will do it. So what if they just did a lie for her? I'm just saying, like, she seems really stinking slippery. And I want to know what about this? Because are we all allowed to do it? Then? Should we all just call up things on the neighbors if they don't take their trash in, in time. Like, what Here is the precedence that needs to be punished. I hate it. I absolutely hate it. But I wanna know what is the ironclad law that can actually be prosecuted?
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Clayton Morris
I don't know. I mean, if there's a collusion with the FBI, I mean, that's like a whole other level of treason. I don't know. I mean, and then again, James Brennan or Clapper and Brennan, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, like all of them are criminals in this. Clearly. I keep coming back to the election interference. I mean, that's blatant election interference. Like, oh, I guess that doesn't come up as a, as a potential.
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Natalie Morris
If Stormy Daniels is, you know, that we were denied the right to know that Trump had had sex with Stormy Daniels, that is what they called election interference, then that's possible. That's possible, yeah. I think we'd need a lawyer to tell us what, a constitutional lawyer to tell us what is the actual crime here?
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Clayton Morris
Because, well, especially if Obama's involved and there's. It rises to the level of treason, you know, to conspiracy, then he's not protected. And that's where I think maybe the other shoe is about to drop in all of this. So anyway, arrest Hillary Clinton. We'll be watching it closely.
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Natalie Morris
All right, we're going to end with this. It's not a great story, but we're going to get your, get your feedback on it. So two gay men in Pennsylvania posted a video celebrating the birth of their surrogate baby. And it went viral when viewers discovered that one of the men is a registered child sex offender. This man in 2016, the one, I was gonna say with the chubby cheeks, but they both have chubby cheeks. The one with the, the beard was arrested for trying to solicit sex from a 16 year old boy, one of his own students at the high school where he taught chemistry. He sent the boy thousands of texts, solicited the boy to send him news photos. He also wanted the victim to watch him pleasure himself. Sent the victim 20 or more nude photographs of himself. This went on for over a year. Police also recovered hundreds of other sexually explicit videos on the laptop. And he pled guilty to felony child pornography possession and one count of corruption of a minor. He was sentenced to up to 23 months of incarceration, but court records show that he was granted parole. Part of his conditions included that he had no unsupervised contact with minors and that he surrender his teaching license. So I ask you how did this guy get a baby? Well, it was through a surrogate, not an adoption agency. An adoption agency you would hope would have caught this. But surrogacy doesn't have the circumstances, Same safety checks in place. A surrogate is when you pay a woman to rent her womb, she will carry the child for you, and then you get full parental rights when the baby is born, presumably, although we don't know which one of the dads donated the sperm to create the baby. But it's not clear which. But it doesn't matter in the state of Pennsylvania, because once the woman hits her third trimester, you register that child that's in the womb like you register a couch. That one's mine. And so those two men had full parental rights by the time that baby was in your utero third trimester. But just like how any sex offender can father a child biologically and get someone pregnant. Right. The same is true for surrogacy. How do you prevent that? They, even if you don't go through the official surrogate channels, you could always just hire your friend and say, I want a baby. Let's do this. How do you stop this? And now that baby has this. This dad. Now. Pennsylvania Senator Doug Mastriano responded, saying that the couple acquired the child through what appears to be a loophole in the legal system. He says here lawmakers are working to ensure that every authority is doing its part to protect the child and uncover exactly how this could happen. What he does doesn't say here, and what I think he is conspicuously avoiding is whether the child is still in the custody of the sex offender. It seems to me that the way he write, wrote it is that the child is. Because they can't take it, can they? Is there any way they can take this child given that they have full parental rights? I. I don't know. And it's not clear. And they're not saying. And I think they're not saying on purpose. Now, the couple crowdfunding the surrogacy through GoFundMe without disclosing to donors that one of them was legally prohibited from unsupervised contact with minors. And so this case exposes a massive gap in surrogacy oversight. It's not, again, like adoption. So how do you prevent this any more than you can prevent a sex offender from fathering a child biologically? So a surrogacy advocate legacy group told Redux that this is not the first case of a sex offender procuring a child from a surrogate. And we don't you know, what can they do? Now, Senator Mastriano said we're going to do something and close up that loophole. But I ask you, how can they possibly do that? You know, it's. He says he's drafting legislation, so let us know what you think. How can this. It raises really uncomfortable, uncomfortable questions about surrogacy and parental rights.
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Colonel Douglas MacGregor
And also the, the guy's partner obviously knows what he did and, and decided to still have a child with him. So that means maybe he's the same way.
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Clayton Morris
Like, that's a scary, poor child.
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Natalie Morris
Yeah, right?
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Clayton Morris
Yeah. It's unbelievable. I want to know how many other states have this same kind of loophole then? Because, I mean, Pennsylvania allows this gestational surrogate, that's hard for me to say, surrogacy, gestational surrogacy contract and this pre birth parentage order, and there's no law prohibiting that. So how many other states allow this, have this same kind of loophole?
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Natalie Morris
Well, I guess you're pointing out a good point that, you know, if you're a surrogate once, but this is, this is tricky. So let's say, you know, you and David are gay men and you have rented my womb, and then I'm in my third trimester with a baby, and we go to the state and we say we're going to register this baby as Clayton and David's baby. Maybe at that point the state can run a background check. The problem is that, what if it's, you know, let's, let's use fictitious, because I don't want to call you guys perverts. Let's say it's, you know, Draco Malfoy is the pervert.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah. Because this show, this show's making me uncomfortable all of a sudden.
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Natalie Morris
I know.
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Clayton Morris
And so I love you, Clayton.
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Natalie Morris
And, and he is the biological donor. Now you can't say, oh, I'm sorry, this baby that's gonna be born in the next few weeks, you actually can't have it. The child exists. Where does the child go now? Right. Yeah.
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Clayton Morris
It's crazy that CPS exists though. Like, CPS exists though. So, like, if somebody gets married, like if they have kids from a previous marriage and they get married and they marry a sex offender. I mean, cannot CPS come in and say, this is. We're taking the children out of here.
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Natalie Morris
Yeah.
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Clayton Morris
Is that kind of one of the things they do?
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Natalie Morris
Yeah.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah, but who's gonna call? Yeah, but it relies on.
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Natalie Morris
Well, at least there'd be this process where you go to register the baby. And they say we need background checks before you take ownership of the baby that that woman is carrying. Then that's possible. Sure, that's. There we go. We just came up with one possible possibility.
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Clayton Morris
But again, is background checks enough?
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Natalie Morris
I mean, but then you have these babies, it's like they're in the assembly line already and they don't go where they in they're intended. Does that put the onus on the surrogate mother? Like, oh, but actually I don't want this child.
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Clayton Morris
It's just in me because she's paid. She was probably paid like $10,000.
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Natalie Morris
Oh, it's way more than that now.
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Clayton Morris
Is it?
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Natalie Morris
That was like decades ago. It was back.
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Clayton Morris
Back when I was renting your room. It was like 10,000 back. Back when. No, back. I remember hearing those stories back then. It was like 10,000. Right.
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Natalie Morris
Long time ago.
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Clayton Morris
Long time ago.
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Natalie Morris
I had a distant family member who did it for 10,030 years ago.
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Clayton Morris
Oh, okay. That's where I heard the story.
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Natalie Morris
Right now it's what I would imagine. It's upwards of 50.
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Clayton Morris
Jeez.
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Natalie Morris
But the couple crowdfunded for 50. They only made two. What a dummy. You were to have donated to those two. Right.
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Clayton Morris
All right, so here are the. There's 16 jurisdictions that allow for this. California, Colorado, of course, Connecticut, Delaware, all liberal states. Idaho, yeah. Maine, very liberal. Maine, Massachusetts, liberal. Michigan, liberal. New Hampshire, liberal. New Jersey. Nevada, Vermont, Washington State, Washington, D.C. allow for this pre birth parentage order.
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Natalie Morris
Yeah, I guess so. Other states are going to have to take a look at this. Now. There's a case right now in front of the courts in the UK where two convicted pedophiles or child sex offenders, they were some kind of like known perverts. That was a gay couple that adopted and sexually abused the baby so much that it died. And the autopsy is the stuff of nightmares. It died within two months at the age of one with all kinds of proof of penetration and other horrors. Stuff of nightmares. So in the UK there has been a lapse of, you know, because there's this idea that all gay people must be wise and brave and so, you know, you don't stop them from whatever they want in a liberal democracy that we've been living in. And so how long until we have to see that happen before there are real? I mean, obviously you don't care about children. You care about the optics of being a progressive person if you are here in a society. So how then do we absolutely protect children first before people's sensibilities and identities. I'm asking.
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Clayton Morris
It's a great question. So what I'll do is. Yeah, why don't we hang out with people and talk. Talk with everyone about this as part of our Rumble Premium. Let me just pull up this document if I can find it. I don't know where it is. Just trying to dig for it here. But why don't you tell us about our.
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Natalie Morris
Ever heard a search?
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Clayton Morris
It's not that simple. It's not that simple. Okay, I'm just gonna find that. Why don't you tell people about our. Our. Our newsletter?
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