Natalie Morris (3:10)

Actually I think that's not even her real name. It's like a political stage name.

Clayton Morris (3:14)

But who?

Natalie Morris (3:14)

Paulina Luna.

Clayton Morris (3:15)

Yeah, Luna. Paulina Luna. They're preventing this. We urgently need disclosure. Well now we're learning from FBI whistleblowers that part of the evidence being destroyed is related to the Epstein files. Remember folks that Epstein was an FBI informant. Here it is. Here is the FBI informant information right here. And you can see here on your screen. Epstein was also provided information to the FBI as agreed upon. Case agent advised no federal prosecution. So Epstein was of course an FBI informant and Dominic Trippy, you know. So the question is what are they hiding? Dominic? Michael Trippy posted this just about two hours ago and said if Epstein client list isn't released by Friday, Attorney General Pam Bondi should resign. I love Dominic's work. That might be a little harsh. I mean you guys, what do you guys think about this? You know, we only know what we know from the outside on all of this. Like what is Pam Bondi know about this? Pam Bondi seems set to release these files. This is something she promised she would do. But what is being destroyed? What is being kept from us? What is the FBI actively destroying right now? Here's Shadow of Ezra. Donald Trump's Attorney General Pam Bondi may now possess video and audio evidence from Jeffrey Epstein's properties exposing celebrities, politicians and royals in compromising situations with minors. Surveillance footage from Epstein's property properties was retrieved by the FBI with mainstream sources now finally confirming it was passed to intelligence agencies like Mossad. The most damaging revelations are expected from IRS Files which could unveil the financial backers of a global child trafficking network. So, look, I'm not defending Pam Bondi. I like Pam Bondi a lot. I consider her a friend. But if this is that massive, you don't just, like, rush it out, because a couple of people on X are demanding that you do it. Like, I hope that this is thorough. And they're taking every possible precaution to make sure that the information out there.

Natalie Morris (5:12)

Also the people who have been hiding it are presumably still powerful people. So how do we know that the people who release it will be kept safe? That's also a relevant question.

Clayton Morris (5:23)

Well, let's ask FBI whistleblower Garrett O'Boyle was placed on unpaid suspension after legally coming forward to report the agency's abuse to Congress. He's an American hero, in my opinion and a lot of people's opinion. Oh. Boyle was told that he was being transferred to a new, new field office. Then he moved, picked up his family, and they screwed him over. Garrett O'Boyle, former FBI special agent and congressional whistleblower, joins us now. And I have to say, Garrett, I'm honored to have you here on the show. I think you're an American hero. Thank you for being here.

Garrett O'Boyle (5:53)

Absolutely. Thank you for having me. It's been quite an interesting journey, but as fellow FBI whistleblower Steve Friend pointed out the other day, we're doing more from outside the FBI than we did even when we were in it.

Clayton Morris (6:05)

Right, but that's amazing. Yeah. So, I mean, I just want to say, when you look at this, you were the first person to break this story to Michael Shellenberger. Can you maybe elaborate on the sources you were hearing inside the FBI, what they were doing, what evidence they're destroying, what is it related to, Epstein files, et cetera? And have you learned more in the 48 hours since you first brought that to Schellenberger?

Garrett O'Boyle (6:26)

I haven't learned any more, and I won't elaborate too much. I was asked by my legal team to hold off, to give Cash Patel and others in government some more time to sort out what's going on here. But they are people in a position to know and in high levels at the Bureau, and I was able to pass on additional names and information as well to. To the Director. It's funny saying that now as I wear my fight with Cash. Yeah, it's an interesting time, but hopefully they. They root out some of this subversion, which they've been aware of, you know, really, since the election. We started hearing. Me and Kyle Seraphin and, and Steve Friend started hearing from people immediately about this type of behavior that was going on. And then I got it from a source very close to the matter who, who said that they are destroying files. To clarify, I don't know precisely the type of files, and I'd imagine that a lot of it's classified, but which is probably why they wouldn't tell me exactly what they were. But there are, especially with Cash as the director now they can make disclosures to write to him. He's a. He's a designated authority for whistleblower disclosures. So I'm confident that they're going to hopefully get to the bottom of this. And they also, you know, have other names that were provided to me that I passed along as well. So they can certainly be looking into these bad actors who we know of.

Natalie Morris (7:51)

Can you tell us a little bit about the infrastructure? Because yesterday we had an FBI veteran on, Chris Payoto, who said, well, the upper echel of the FBI, they don't know how to get to the servers or do anything to the servers. The, you know, lower ranks, I guess if we want to use that term, they can't delete things off of servers. They can delete things off their local. But we saw the Obama administration just raw dog it with hammers. So, like, can you tell us anything about how that would be possible?

Garrett O'Boyle (8:23)

Right. So one of the great moves, if you want to use that word, that the FBI does, is they keep things compartmentalized. They do that on purpose. It's a. A mechanism of control that they use. So not everybody is read in on every case, not every case is available to anybody in the FBI to pull up or to, or to look at. As far as these standalone servers, I had never heard that before, but that's what. What the person who came to me told me was that they have these standalone servers that we can only speculate what type of information is on them. But in the regular filing system, the computer system that every normal employee has access to, you know, for me, I was a special agent, so all of the cases that I was assigned to, you had what they call case participants. So typically it would be your entire squad that's listed as a participant. And then if you get into certain different types of cases, they might be more restricted if they're designated a sensitive investigative matter. For instance, not a lot of people have full access to those. But they do this all by design. Some of it makes sense because you don't want certain information necessarily being spread all around the FBI for Some reason. But as far as higher ranking officials in the FBI, I would imagine when they're spending 15, 20, 25 years there, they know where a lot of the bodies are buried. And at a minimum, they know the, the experts in the Quantico lab or whatever other technical experts they have who have access to these files. And in an agency that's being run correctly, they would at least know the parties to go to and ask. So yeah.

Clayton Morris (10:00)

Do you think so do we know the substance of the files that are being deleted? You know, there's been other information now that part of these are related to.

Natalie Morris (10:09)

Epstein or January 6th?

Clayton Morris (10:11)

Yeah, January 6th we know. And can you also clarify, you mentioned these individual servers that you learned about, from, from internally at the FBI. So are these internal servers, like not networked, like not connected to the other servers at the FBI? These are sort of standalone islands, if you will. I almost picture like Battlestar Galactica, you know, where this thing. There's a reason that ship, you know, survives is because it's not networked, it's not connected to anything else. So we know that the CIA also has similar stuff. Is that what you're referring to? And what do you think these files are?

Garrett O'Boyle (10:43)

Right, that's what I'm referring to is that I was told that they are separate from, from the main FBI system. So I can only speculate as to what's on there. But I would speculate that some of the most sensitive material that the FBI has and potential cases are, are being stored on there or also perhaps historical cases or information that they didn't want connected to the main server for some reason. And another way to help people understand how to look at this is in the FBI, you've got three different, what I'll say normal systems. You've got the yellow side, which is your top secret side, you've got the red side, which is your, your regular standard secret side. And most things are done through there. And then you have your green side, which is your unclassified system. But the way it works is most often you're signed in, you're logged into to the red side and there's, there's different ways to access the green side through there. Now, when you already have systems like this that have their own classification levels which can, which incorporates what type of information is stored there, I speculate that just some of the most damning information would be stored separately because what other reason would an agency like the FBI have for having a system like that in an alleged land of the free? I don't think any government agencies should have something that's disconnected from the main server. Where even according to your guest, you had on yesterday, Chris, if even the highest ranking officials in the agency don't know where to look to find that stuff, that, to me, that just seems insidious on its face.

Natalie Morris (12:23)

Right. And then what is missing will be informative of who took it, where did it go? I was actually just reading this book about the McCarthy era and the Klaus report from the State Department. The most damning thing that led McCarthy's investigations is missing from the National Archives. So we know that is a smoking gun, right? And so will somebody be able to reverse engineer what's missing and make inferences, you think? Shouldn't a good detective be able to do that?

Garrett O'Boyle (12:53)

You would think so, yes. But the information I was told was that, and I don't know because I wasn't a tech person or a cyber agent, but the information I was told was that even Elon wouldn't be able to retrieve what's being destroyed on these, on these systems. So I don't know if that's true. I hope that's not true because also why, why are people, as soon as the election went for Donald Trump, why then were we learning information like this, that the government, the FBI, is destroying this type of information? What are you trying to hide? What could possibly be so bad that you want, you don't want the new, you know, we had a peaceful change of authority in this country and now you don't want the new regime, the new administration to know this information. Why. That's something that, and why did you.

Natalie Morris (13:42)

Keep it during the Biden administration? Like what, what leverage did it prevent?

Clayton Morris (13:47)

Hubris.

Natalie Morris (13:47)

What leverage did it give you in the event of a Kamala Harris presidency? That's another smoking gun question.

Garrett O'Boyle (13:53)

Absolutely it is. And Clayton, you nailed it. I think hubris that, that is what, what me and the other suspendables from the FBI always point to is the consistent hubris in a place like the FBI. And you, you can see it, you can hear it in the voices of Jim Comey or an Andy McCabe. And they have fallen error to the fatal sin of pride. And so now they are scrambling. I'm sure they didn't think Donald Trump was going to win. You had Peter Strzok texting Lisa Page. We will stop it. Last time Trump won, they weren't able to do it then. Then we had a brief intermission where they, you know, I'm, I'm not, I'm speculating again, but I'LL say they. They were able to stop Trump from winning, and now they didn't this time. And so the type of information, again, I can only speculate, but it's got to be absolutely damning if people who work in the FBI are like, okay, we gotta destroy this now.

Clayton Morris (14:49)

Yeah, it's unbelievable. What sort of honeypot information are they destroying as it related to trying to capture Donald Trump in Russia, collusion, hoax, or anything else that they were trying to do as it relates to Jeffrey Epstein? I don't know. I'll just get you out of here on this. Garrett, do you think Cash, I mean, he's walking into a mess. I know Pam Bondi the other day said the DOJ is worse than she possibly imagined. So I'm sure you speak to Cash like, is it as bad as we expect it to be?

Garrett O'Boyle (15:14)

I think it's worse. And that is what me and the other guys have essentially briefed Director. Now, Director Patel on before is once you start and he's in a position, hopefully, if he can avoid all the viper's nests that are around every turn, he is in a position where he's going to be able to learn some of the most damning information. And I think even someone with him and his background and all of his work on Russiagate and everything like that, I think even he's going to be shocked at the type of skeletons that eventually will get uncovered. Hopefully.

Clayton Morris (15:48)

Yeah. Unbelievable.

Natalie Morris (15:50)

Well, I'm sorry you've made such a dangerous enemy of the FBI, and I appreciate all that you're offering to the rest of us for a glimpse into. I mean, this is our information. We collectively own it, so we have the right to know about this. Thank you so much for coming on redacted and sharing this with us.

Clayton Morris (16:06)

Yeah, thanks, Garrett. We really appreciate it.

Garrett O'Boyle (16:08)

Yeah, thanks for having me. Appreciate it.

Clayton Morris (16:11)

Unbelievable.

Natalie Morris (16:12)

Well, so, yeah, that's Director Patel to you, sir.

Clayton Morris (16:15)

Yes.

Natalie Morris (16:16)

You're calling him Cash. We do not know him. On Director Patel.

Clayton Morris (16:19)

I know I need to get.

Natalie Morris (16:19)

I know I need to get strange now. Right?

Clayton Morris (16:21)

Yeah.

Natalie Morris (16:22)

Yeah. Even today, we are doing a story in the newsletter. It's Director Tulsi Gabbard.

Clayton Morris (16:26)

Yes. It's crazy to think that.

Natalie Morris (16:28)

Yeah.

Clayton Morris (16:29)

Okay, we've got more news to get to here on your. What is it today? Wednesday?

Natalie Morris (16:34)

Today's Tuesday, sir.

Clayton Morris (16:35)

No, it's Wednesday.

Natalie Morris (16:35)

It's Wednesday.

Clayton Morris (16:36)

Isn't it Wednesday?

Natalie Morris (16:37)

Today's Wednesday.

Clayton Morris (16:37)

Am I asking you for.

Natalie Morris (16:39)

I don't know.

Clayton Morris (16:39)

I just show up one of our viewers who's an op, an optician, optometrist an optometrist wrote in and said, love your show and watch you guys every day. Can I tell Natalie, she wears these red glasses that they're slightly askew when she wears the blue ones sometimes on her face. And she said, you know, you can take those in and get them fixed from time to time.

Natalie Morris (16:57)

You know what happened? I was walking up the stairs and I tripped on my skirt and I dropped the glasses and stepped on them. But they're my favorite, so I just keep wearing them. So thank you.

Clayton Morris (17:06)

I love that. Sweet message, though, from Shannon. Shannon, Yeah, I have my.

Garrett O'Boyle (17:12)

To wear around at home, like wireframes.

Clayton Morris (17:14)

That are all just, like, bent to.

Garrett O'Boyle (17:15)

Hell because I constantly, like, drop them, step on my.

Clayton Morris (17:18)

I just bend them back into a usable position.

Garrett O'Boyle (17:20)

Then I've got my presentable glasses.

Natalie Morris (17:21)

That's exactly what I did. Yeah. Okay. You can tell I am not a diva because I'm like, they're fine. Just keep going.

Clayton Morris (17:31)

All right, we've got more news to get to here. In a moment, we're going to talk about this unbelievable story out of Israel and why the family, the Bibas family has sent a cease and desist letter to Benjamin Netanyahu. Basically, the lies that are coming out of. Do you think Benjamin Netanyahu is a liar? Oh, we've got an investigative journalist on next who's going to blow the lid off of this investigation. Unbelievable. So we're going to get there in a second, but first time seems to be going very, very quickly lately. Oh, my God. It's just amazing to think, you look at pictures of your kids, you think, oh, my gosh, how quickly they've grown up. You know, gone to the beach when they're little and all of that. How time flies. But it's never too late to make progress in your life. If you're saving up for a big purchase like a home or a car, you need to build credit fast. Well, that's where Kickoff can actually help. They're the number one credit building app in the App Store, and plans start at just $5 a month. No credit check, no hidden fees, no interest. So it's unbelievable. And helps you. Kickoff helps you build credit fast. I mean, you know, it's really amazing because if you. A lot of people struggle for years and unfortunately in the United States, people live and die by their credit score. And that's really sad. I hope that we can actually make some changes in that in the United States. But Kickoff can actually help you change your credit quickly. So if you need a new rental reporting feature. Whatever it is, you can check it out right now. If your credit is under 600, you could jump like 28 points in their first month. Month kickoff is a smart legit credit hack with no catch, no credit check, no hidden fees, no interest. It's simple. You make one time payments. Credit bureaus see your good behavior and your credit grows quickly and it's really affordable as well. So right now, if you want to check it out for just the first month for just $1, go to getkickoff.com redacted again that's getkickoff.com redacted and you must sign up via the link. It's getkickoff.com redacted to activ the offer offer applies to a new customer's first month only subject to approval. Offer subject to change terms and conditions may apply. Point stat Based on Equifax VantageScore 3.0 changes for kickoff users starting under 600 who made their first one time payment between January 21st and March 2024. Payment and credit activity outside Kickoff can have an impact on your credit. Individual results may vary. We'll have a link in the description as well. All right. Well, a bombshell investigation reveals evidence that Benjamin Netanyahu and his wily band of military bombed the BE family and then hid their deaths to collapse the November 2023 ceasefire agreement. Now, before your biases run wild, just sit and listen to this investigation we're going to have on the journalist who broke that story in just a second. So the Bibas family was buried today in a private funeral, but Benjamin Netanyahu is making wild claims about how exactly they were killed.

Clayton Morris (20:30)

Listen, who can murder babies?

Clayton Morris (20:36)

Who can do this?

Clayton Morris (20:39)

The Hamas monstrous, that's who. They slaughtered SHI before her own children.

Natalie Morris (20:48)

Then they strangled Ariel. And fear.

Clayton Morris (20:53)

They crush their tiny skulls.

Natalie Morris (20:56)

With unspeakable cruelty and barbarism.

Clayton Morris (20:59)

What monsters. Their evil knows no bounds. How can the world witness such horror and remain silent?

Natalie Morris (21:09)

You know Edmund Burke, who said for evil to triumph, the good need only remain silent.

Clayton Morris (21:15)

And I say we will not remain silent.

Natalie Morris (21:19)

Don't remain silent.

Clayton Morris (21:21)

Israel will not be silent.

Clayton Morris (21:26)

Chris Cole in our chat says, ah, the Hannibal Directive. There we go. Investigative journalist Dan Cohen says Netanyahu is attempting to upend the ceasefire and actually covered up the deaths of the Bebas family all the way back to November of 2023 to destroy the temporary ceasefire back then. And Dan Cohen joins us from Uncaptured Media to break all of this down. Dan, welcome back to the show. This is an unbelievable story. You know, we've been following your work on this and there are people in our chat room will say, no, it's impossible. You guys are, you're fallen for it. But you have the evidence, you have the receipts, and it might be uncomfortable to talk about, but break it down.

Natalie Morris (22:07)

Well, maybe let's start here because something that Dan's been reporting is that the Beavis family is rejecting what the Netanyahu government has, has said. Can you break that down for us? Let's start there.

Dan Cohen (22:18)

Yeah, I mean, let me just first say there is no conclusive evidence of how the Beavis family died yet. We are awaiting an independent forensic analysis, which apparently the family is, has on order. But it's all, of course, very fresh and today was the funeral, so hopefully we will be seeing that in the days to come. But Benjamin Netanyahu, as you saw there, that was at AIPAC on Tuesday, he said that not only that Hamas actually killed them, that Palestinians killed them with their bare hands, he claims to know the order in which they were killed. He says, first these Palestinians strangled the mother, Shiri, and then killed in front of the children. Four year old Ariel and baby Kfir killed the mother in front of the children and then killed the children. Now, Israel had no intelligence, did not tell the family anything about where they were all along. And now Netanyahu claims to know exactly how they were killed and even in what order. So Shiri Ofri Bibas, the sister of the father, Yarden, who survived and was released by Hamas on February 1, she took out a, she got a cease and desist letter to Netanyahu and to several Israeli government ministries saying, stop spreading this information about how our family supposedly died. I mean, it's incredibly insensitive, for one thing. And this was after she took out the letter on Sunday when Netanyahu was speaking at an Israeli army officers graduation ceremony and held up a photo of the children and said that they were killed by Hamas with their bare hands. So two days. So then she puts out the cease and desist later letter and then the next day ignores the cease and desist letter they put out and says, oh, and then this is the order of how it was done. So.

Clayton Morris (24:22)

So it sounds like there's exploitation going on here, like Netanyahu is using this for propaganda and exploitation. Am I wrong?

Dan Cohen (24:30)

Yeah, that's exactly what he's doing. He is right now trying to upend this ceasefire which the Trump administration, well, actually when Trump was still president elect, forced Netanyahu to agree to finally just said, you have to agree to this ceasefire, sent Steve Witkoff to Qatar to meet with Netanyahu and demanded that he do it and agree to the ceasefire that Hamas had actually already agreed to several months before, but Israel agreed to and rejected when Hamas agreed to it. So, so this is, it's just constant hijinks from Netanyahu to destroy the ceasefire. But the Bibas family, I mean, okay, so we have to go back to November of 2023, just several weeks after October 7, when there was a temporary ceasefire that lasted several days. And as the ceasefire was nearing its end, Netanyahu wanted to blow it up. He wanted to go back to war or else his cabinet was going to collapse. Ben GVIR and Smotrich, the guys more to the right of him, would pull out and leave the government, and then Netanyahu would be in trouble because he would be able to be prosecuted for a variety of corruption crimes. So he wanted to go back to war. And much of the public, the Israeli public did as well. And so what he did in order to, he made a demand to Hamas saying, release all of the females in captivity. Well, that included many female soldiers who are legitimate prisoners of war. These are not, you know, little girls or old ladies. These are prisoners of war who were taken into captivity. So, of course, Hamas rejected that and they made a counter proposal saying, listen, we will release a number two prisoners, two live prisoners, as well as the bodies of the Bebas family that was killed in Israeli bombing, and that includes the mother, Shiri. They laid out the names, they said, Shiri Kaffir and Ariel Bibas. And the family didn't know what to believe. Is this Hamas propaganda? Is this psychological warfare against. And the Israeli government completely dismissed it and said, no, no, no, no, this is, this is, these are Hamas lies. And they went back to war. And then, you know, tens of thousands of deaths later. Finally, Trump enforces the ceasefire. A few weeks later, Yardan Bibas, the father of the two children and the husband to this woman, he's released. And then the bodies are handed over. And so the big question is, well, who, who, when did they die? Who killed them and why? The thing is, Hamas didn't have any reason to lie back then because Hamas wanted a ceasefire, because a ceasefire means an exchange. And Hamas whole goal with October 7th was to get a whole bunch of Israeli captives and trade them for their prisoners. There's several thousand prisoners and hostages inside Israeli prisons. So Hamas wanted a cease fire, Israel didn't. And Hamas was also releasing all of the hostages and captives that were children and and you know, underage or elderly or civilian women those are who were being released, which is exactly what the Bibas family was. A mother and two little children, including a nine month old baby. That looks bad for Hamas's pr. And it's not easy to take care of a nine month old baby versus a grown adult man, which is what they wanted. So it doesn't make sense for Hamas to one of to have killed them. They wanted to actually send them back to Israel in exchange for something.

Natalie Morris (28:28)

Can we talk about this parading of the bodies that worked up so many people on X? I don't know if you saw last week we had Ramsey Barud on Palestinian journalist and he said this was a military funeral. And, and what Hamas was trying to do was show that the way we hand back bodies is respectfully or what have you, but the way that Israel gives us back our dead is in big mutilated piles and we have to sort through body parts. And so how do we know looking from the west, what that actually was? And then Netanyahu, if I could tack on this question, came back and said, oh, but the way you gave us back our prisoners was in this parade. And that also was propaganda. When I watched it, I saw an Israeli hostage kissing a Hamas member and saying goodbye to him friend in a friendly manner. So I don't know what propaganda, who's calling what propaganda? Can you explain that?

Dan Cohen (29:26)

Well, the outrage that, yeah, I saw that on social media about Hamas handing over the bodies in coffins I think was totally illegitimate and at best overblown. I mean they were handed back in, in coffins in a pretty solemn ceremony and absolutely did. What did Hamas want to use it for? Psychological warfare to show Israel that this is, you know, we're serious, we are not going to be under occupation forever. You cannot treat us like this. Definitely there is a price to the occupation. They wanted to communicate that message. Absolutely. But to say that they were disrespected or something like that, I mean Israel returned, you know, took bodies and took their organs from Palestinians, took them into Israel, took their bodies and actually removed their organs and brought them back. And the Palestinians couldn't even recognize them, dumped them in mass graves. Yesterday there was a photo that went around of Israeli soldiers laughing. Well, sorry, it was a video of Israeli soldiers laughing while two dogs ate the corpse of a Palestinian they'd killed. There's another photo on social media of a, of an Israeli soldier playing soccer with a human skull. So for Israel to suddenly have this outrage about the sanctity of, of, you know, of funerals and all those things is just totally, totally disingenuous. And it's, and it's, it's just a total distraction from what actually happened there. That apparently, and I can't, we can't, again, I want to stress, we can't say 100% that they were. The Bebas family was killed by Israel. But I very strongly, the circumstantial evidence suggests that. And we're waiting to see the results of a real forensic analysis, unlike what Benjamin Netanyahu is doing.

Clayton Morris (31:31)

So, Dan, we'll get you out of here on this. Which is the circumstantial evidence of their death. Is it? And we have the father that survived. So what is the circumstantial evidence that points to the fact that Israel bombed and killed this family? I mean, also then of course, you have the sister of the mother who passed saying to Netanyahu, cease and desist. Stop spreading information about my family. So this is like, okay, even if you're like a huge, I stand with Israel and they can do no wrong. And you know, I, you know, you're totally in the tank for them. You have to look at like facts are facts. It might be uncomfortable, but what is the circumstantial evidence here?

Dan Cohen (32:13)

Well, I mean, one major piece of circumstantial evidence is the fact that Israel was bombing everything in Gaza. And you had Israeli officials saying, I mean, I quoted one Israeli official who was involved in the Gilad Shalit negotiations. The Israeli soldier who was taken captive in 2006 and released in 2010 or 2011. He said the whole of the Gaza Strip, Israel has applied the Hannibal Directive to the whole of the Gaza Strip. They were bombing everything in sight. So of course Israeli captives and hostages are going to be killed under those bombs. They're not magically be immune from them. In addition, I mean, there are, there are many others who were killed. And the Israeli government lied about the family of Ron Sherman, who in his, who was an Israeli soldier who was taken into a tunnel in Jabalia refugee camp with two other Israelis and Israel bombed them and poison gases actually killed them. And they lied to the family for months and said that Hamas killed them. And when finally the bodies were retrieved In January of 2024, the mother of Ron Sherman asked for, got a forensic analysis and found out that there was actually no damage to his body, but actually that he had died from poison gas that was released as a byproduct of Israeli bombs. There are many others who were killed there I mean there's there, this is well documented. There are many other Israelis who were killed in Gaza by Israeli bombs. And again, Israel had every reason to blow up the ceasefire. Hamas had no reason to kill this family as they were letting many other children, many other hostages who were children, who were elderly go during that week in late November. So it just makes no sense for Hamas to have killed these guys with their bare. Killed this family with their bare hands. So again, we're waiting for that smoking gun evidence, but everything is pointing to shocker. Netanyahu lying through his teeth.

Natalie Morris (34:29)

Okay, I do have one more question. Clayton said he would ask the last one, but I can't not ask.

Clayton Morris (34:34)

She can't not do it. It's impossible.

Natalie Morris (34:36)

You said that we're going to get an independent investig investigation which obviously sends.

Clayton Morris (34:41)

My spiders into the deaths of this family.

Natalie Morris (34:43)

Right. So how do we know who's doing that? I will say we did get a straight answer when the IDF killed Shireen Abu eh. That, that was a smoking gun. They killed her. We're pretty sure of that. And we got that through an independent investigation. Even though the United States was complicit in that. Who's doing this? Can we trust it?

Dan Cohen (35:04)

I don't know. Who is conducting the forensic analysis that the Beavis family has asked. Asked for? They haven't said publicly. But the forensic, the supposed forensic analysis that the Israeli military and Benjamin, Benjamin Netanyahu referred to. Actually the crazy thing is they refer to a forensic analysis this by a guy named Ken Kugel who is the top forensic. Israeli government forensic specialist. But this guy has been caught lying repeatedly. He lied about seeing beheaded babies on October 7, which did not, absolutely did not happen. He said not only did he see beheaded babies, he saw multiple beheaded babies. And there was only one baby that was killed on October 7th, Israeli baby that was killed on October 7th. And that was as a result of stray gunfire and it certainly was not beheaded. So he has repeatedly lied. And that's the guy that Netanyahu and all this guy said, Dr. Chen Kugel said that there's no evidence that the Bebas children and Shiri Bibas were killed in by bombing. That's all he said. He didn't say anything about them being strangled. That's just the Israeli military spokesperson and Netanyahu himself who have said that. And then of course Netanyahu took it to another level saying he even knows the order in which the, the family members were strangled. But who is going to conduct this independent analysis? I don't know. But Definitely there are capable medical professionals in Israel who are unaffiliated with the government or with the military. And, you know, we saw the same thing again with Ron Sherman, the soldier who and the two others who died from gassing released as a byproduct of Israeli bombing.

Clayton Morris (37:03)

So we have a lot of people in the chat that agree with you and a lot of people in the chat that think they know more than you, which is always the case. You've spent quite a bit of time in Gaza. You're one of the smartest journalists in the world. So I would encourage. Let's put up Dan's Twitter handle here on the screen.

Natalie Morris (37:18)

Take it to Dan. You're going to see what's.

Dan Cohen (37:20)

Examine me. Yeah, let's see.

Clayton Morris (37:21)

Yeah.

Natalie Morris (37:21)

If you gonna tell you you don't wanna do that.

Clayton Morris (37:23)

Cause there'll be people just write one word, they're like, he's a lion piece of shit. You know, Way more worse than that.

Dan Cohen (37:29)

I get way worse than that on a daily basis.

Clayton Morris (37:31)

No, I love it. Because I would love for you. You can say that. But then go to Dan's Twitter. There he is, Dan Cohen, 3000 on Twitter, and then have a conversation with him, prove Dan wrong. He's a journalist who spent more time there than you have, probably, but maybe a lot of people in our chat room have spent a lot of time in Gaza and they're investigative journalists. So the people that disagree with you, go talk to Dan and he'll have a friendly conversation with you on X and he'll just drop facts on you all day long. So if you bring. You gotta make sure you bring your facts when you talk with Dan.

Natalie Morris (37:59)

Yeah, no epithets.

Clayton Morris (38:00)

No epithets, no.

Natalie Morris (38:01)

Just random argue on the substance. If you're prepared to do that.

Clayton Morris (38:05)

I'm not.

Clayton Morris (38:05)

All right, Dan Cohen.

Natalie Morris (38:06)

I'm not gonna take over, by the way.

Clayton Morris (38:08)

Read. Go to Uncaptured Media, which is Dan's website. He's written a whole new article here called Did Israel bomb the Bebas family, then hide their deaths to collapse the ceasefire back in 2023? And if you trust Benjamin Netanyahu, I've got a bridge to sell you. Anyway.

Natalie Morris (38:22)

Yeah. Thank you, Dan.

Clayton Morris (38:23)

Thank you, Dan, for your bravery and doing great journalism. And I look forward to the conversation on X with people that seem to know more than you. So we'll see.

Dan Cohen (38:30)

Oh, yeah, yeah, it should be fun. I look, I look forward to it too. Thank you both for having me, as always.

Clayton Morris (38:36)

Thanks, Dan.

Natalie Morris (38:37)

Oh, it's already been brought. And again, I just want to Read you this statement from the Beavis family. Any publication of details, including references to the treatment of the bodies, is against the family's wishes. And we asked that be avoided. And Netanyahu went the next day and did exactly that.

Clayton Morris (38:59)

Screw you, I'm going to use that.

Natalie Morris (39:00)

Does he really care about the Beavis family? Make that determination on your own.

Clayton Morris (39:05)

He cares about himself.

Natalie Morris (39:05)

He wants you not to do it and you do it.

Clayton Morris (39:07)

He cares about himself and his own power and staying in power. That's what has been repeatedly true throughout this entire thing, that he wants to remain in power. And if he doesn't continue the war, then as Dame pointed out, his cabinet will collapse and he will lose power. So pay attention to that, you know. Anyway, yeah, have a conversation with Dan. All right. We got a lot more news to get to, if we can believe it.

Natalie Morris (39:27)

We're going to talk about these judges and they, how they are blocking the Trump administration's efforts to shrink the federal deficit, to shrink the size of the federal government. Are they activists? Should we get rid of them? Is that a bridge too far? We're going to talk to Lionel from the Lionel Nation YouTube channel in just a second. But before we do that, we want to tell you about our friends over at Hillsdale College. College. Because if your New Year's resolution was just to study more things for your own self enrichment, then look no further than Hillsdale because they are offering more than 40 free classes online. These are classes that you can look into, choose for yourself, take at your own pace, and just decide to expand your knowledge on your own with really credible professors. You can learn about the works of C.S. lewis, the stories in the book of Genesis, the meaning of the U. S. Constitution, the rise and fall of the Roman Republic. All of these are free online courses. Introduction to Western philosophy is a good one right now as we see it literally changing before our very eyes. Western philosophy now is becoming a multipolar philosophy, which is so interesting. Right. So this is a 14 lecture online course that you can just explore the works of, of Descartes, Nietzsche, Aristotle, Plato. So this again is a self paced course and you can start whenever and wherever. So go to Hillsdale. Edu Redacted to enroll. There's no cost and it's easy to get started. One more time. That's Hillsdale. Edu redacted. One more time, Hillsdale. Edu redacted. Well, two judges have told the Trump administration that they cannot freeze federal aid, they cannot shrink the size of the government. One was D.C. judge Lauren Akin and the Other is Judge Amir Ali. Both. Are you surprised? Are Biden appointees. Well, now, Elon Musk has raised the issue of impeaching corrupt judges in response to this because the president of El Salvador, President Bukele, has said, this is what we do. You can do it our way if you want. Is that a bridge too far? What are we to make of that? Well, Lionel is joining us right now from The Lionel Nation YouTube channel. A former prosecutor and the fieriest constitutionalist that we can find on the Internet.

Clayton Morris (41:42)

I prefer feisty.

Natalie Morris (41:43)

Feistiest. Yeah. So he's going to show us the. The way. Lionel, what are we to make of this?

Clayton Morris (41:51)

Oh, we don't hear glasses. Oh.

Clayton Morris (41:55)

Oh, there we go.

Dan Cohen (41:55)

Now I hear you.

Clayton Morris (41:56)

Now we hear you. Now we hear you.

Clayton Morris (41:57)

Okay.

Natalie Morris (41:57)

Yeah, my glasses are.

Clayton Morris (41:58)

I got muted by the way. Your glasses. That was just a joke. First and foremost, I love when I get the email or the text from you saying, can you believe. And I'm thinking, take it easy, take it easy.

Clayton Morris (42:15)

You know her very well. Yeah. Oh, my God.

Clayton Morris (42:17)

You need to block me. Clayton. I. You know, Clayton, I'm thinking the sedative for you. Anyway, so I sent you. I happen to do some research today, and I found some. Some wonderful pieces of. I think it was John Kennedy, the senator, and Josh Hawley interviewing Judge Ali Khan. This is Lauren Ali Khan and Amir Ali. They're not related. And you've got to hear this snide. Oh, just so you ask the question. Are they activist judges? Yes. Yes.

Clayton Morris (42:55)

What are you talking about? Do we have some sound of John Kennedy? Do we have that? Can we please.

Natalie Morris (43:00)

I didn't bring it. Okay, I apologize, but. Sorry.

Clayton Morris (43:06)

Well, let me do. Let me just do it for you. It went something like this. Now, now, Judge. Judge, are you a. Are you a communist? I mean, I love. He's funny, and it was like, if ever he haw comes back, he'll be like, you know, Foghorn Leghorn or whatever is. But anyway, it goes to this. Let me see if I can explain this to you. This is just a temporary restraining order. It's an injunction. Don't worry. They're just saying you can't shut down a billion dollars. I think Judge Ali Khan said it was unconscionable. It's ridiculous. How are they supposed to read through this? I never heard so much concern over people being inconvenienced by being paid for what amounts to illegal improper funding. Do you find. Folks, remember a guy named Bernie Madoff, he shut it down like that. They said this is a fraudulent transfer. Any money you have, you're going to claw it back. But we're a pension. We don't care whether you're a pension. You don't deserve the money. That's it. But for some reason, usaid, oh, no, no, we have to be careful. Oh, Lordy. We can't let these people be inconvenient. So, anyway, make a long story short. The bottom line is this is temporary. And President Trump says, I know, I know what's happening because this is the most incredible. Now, may I give you folks a couple of pieces of irony, which I love. This is kind of related. It Ms. DNC has this new thing basically, where they're basically firing everybody who's there, Rachel Maddows, producers Joe, Joy, Reid. They said that the cleaning lady, everybody's getting pink, slipped, fired, get the hell out of here. That's the way it goes. They then turn around and say, I can't believe to fine people that USA do. How does this president shut down? You just, you know, what canned the entire group. The hypocrisy, by the way, the same people who just as an aside said, how in the hell does Elon Musk go to a cabinet meeting when Jill Biden conducted one? I have to get that out. So this is why I'm losing my mind.

Clayton Morris (45:40)

Do you think, Lionel, that these, like the media organizations we know from USAID were making all this money, all these kickbacks now, now that the, now that the government teat has dried up, suddenly they're having to lay people off, like all these big contracts like Joy Reid. It's amazing how this is happening.

Dan Cohen (45:59)

It's.

Clayton Morris (45:59)

I'll never forget, years ago, there was this thing, it was a funny. There was a friend of mine, had all these oak trees, and he. And he chased. Chopped as a root. And this arborist or somebody said, you got to remember, if you cut a root here, it might be that, that tree way over there. So when you cut off USAID all of a sudden, you find out, hey, this studio closed up. Hey, where's Rob Reiner? No, I'm serious. Where's Rob Reiner? Where's Robert De Niro? Where are these people? You mean to tell me these, these, these media organizations, these blogs, these folks, these studios, Politico, New York Times, maybe, just maybe, USAID and that iteration of monies, maybe it just laid the groundwork for this entire propaganda unit. You know, years ago, while we're on the subject, there was this fellow, you might have known him, you youngsters. His name was Moby, or it still is this. He's a bald headed feller. That's my John Kennedy. Well, he reported how in 2016 or 2017, right around there, the CIA came to him and said, you know, we'd like to use your social media platform because you're very popular. They have been involved in this forever. So we're going to find out.

Natalie Morris (47:24)

But his music was used in the Bourne Identity, the Bourne films. Yeah.

Clayton Morris (47:28)

Which is like anti CIA.

Clayton Morris (47:31)

No, it's not. No, it's not. Not at all. That did more. Let me tell you something. This was a psy up. This goes. Remember Tom Clancy? This was a psyop stuff. This is awesome. Anyway, so, so what's happening right now was. But let's just go back to this. As far as activist judges, we're here in New York, okay. Now we have a guy, Eric Adams, who is our mayor, who is basically retired it but he is, for whatever reason he has aligned himself apparently with President Trump. They've gone to him and said, now listen, Tom Homan was on a show and said, you know why Tom Holman speaks? You better understand something. If you don't do what I say, I'm going to come back here and crap your ass. This is on tv. And the mayor says, okay, Tom. So anyway, to make a long story short, the DOJ filed a motion to dismiss. There's a rule called, I think we talked about this. There's a 48A rule. Make a long story short, this federal judge, normally Judge Ho would say, I don't give a damn whether you want to dismiss it. I've got cases out there. Fine. One less case for me to offer. It's your case, doj. If you want to dismiss this against Eric Adams, that's fine. What did he do? Oh no, I'm going to make sure everything's on the up and up. I'm going to hire basically an amica is kind of a friend of the court, so to speak, to make sure everything's on the up and up to dismiss a case. Now if this was Trump, no problem. This is.

Natalie Morris (49:02)

Yeah.

Clayton Morris (49:03)

If now you're not going to impeach these people, you're not going to go back and you're not. They haven't broken the law.

Clayton Morris (49:10)

They were they answering to who are they answering to these activist judges? I mean are they answering the dnc, The Senate senators are calling them up and say, hey Judge, Senate put a block to this.

Clayton Morris (49:21)

The Senate's in charge everything. You know the Senate, remember years ago, they create basically the Entire court system. There was a time years ago when the Supreme Court tried cases. I mean, this has all evolved, my friends. This is one of the beauties of this balance of power. You mentioned Israel Prior. You know, they have basically two tiers, the Netanyahu and the Supreme Court, and that's it. We have so many layers. The House and I love it. I love it. The House can overrule the Senate, The President can veto this. We need to get the voters. So we have such a balance. Sometimes our balance of power is so great. We have these morons and these people who are in there. But I want you to go back and listen to this. There used to be. Let me tell you this fiction. I like the way they say, you know, it's federal judges are the best because you see, they're appointed for life and they don't have to worry about running. And they're the purest form of nonsense. If you get some idiot, you've got them for life. It's like herpes. You can they. They may calm down for a while, but they're there forever. Give me sometimes a judge who is elected, who says, I can't do this. This is nuts. I'll never elected again. I kind of like that. But we're stuck with that. But, but here. Here is the thing, what the President is doing, and this is the political I. Every single day. And I'm sure you folks are doing the same thing. Do you remember? Because you've been in the business. I think we've all been where sometimes you got a slow day and you may say, clayton, what the hell are we going to talk about? I don't know. Can we. You. You want to read?

Natalie Morris (51:06)

Not anymore.

Clayton Morris (51:08)

Oh, are you kidding? I can't even. I can't say as I'm talking, it's coming down. There's. There's. Elon, there's this, there's. Oh, my God.

Clayton Morris (51:18)

And this is Epstein files.

Clayton Morris (51:20)

Yeah, yeah, it's a month. It's okay. But can I say something about Epstein when you get a chance, please call me back for that one. Does that go? Go ahead.

Natalie Morris (51:28)

Okay, yes, we'll do a whole separate thing. But I do want to circle back to this, though, because what you've been saying repeatedly every time I hysterically text you, which, yes, you should block me, is this is a roadblock. The Trump administration's gonna keep going. This will not stop the effort to shrink the federal government and the deficit and all of those things. But what of this idea that Elon Musk put forward of, yes, we must impeach judges to save democracy. That's a little scary. What do you think of that?

Clayton Morris (51:58)

It's a waste of time. Impeach me, first of all. Anybody you want to get together, you're going to. We don't have enough time to do this. You're going to get, you need 51 whatever votes to impeach high crimes and misdemeanors. What did he do? He didn't do anything wrong. Listen, you can. If you were. Clayton wanted to be a judge, a federal judge. You could go so far. You could be crazy. We had a case. We had the Supreme Court Justice William Mo Douglas, who came up with the notion of privacy in the Griswold case regarding contraception. That was certifiably insane. That was okay. He didn't take money. He was just crazy. You could be crazy. You could be stupid. Did Justice Taney and Dred Scott get impeached? No, you make stupid. Put it this way. We are a country where we had Justice Ketanji Brown, Jackson or Jackson, anyway, when they ask her, can you define what a woman is? Now listen to this. Can you define what a woman is? And she has a daughter or two, I don't know what she refers to them. She says, I can't define that. She should have been impeached before she even got in there. And say, you're an idiot. So anyway, that was okay. You don't know what a woman is. So, so listen, my friends, the, the, the. It's like, I hate to say it, may you never involve yourself in the case of medical negligence or medical malpractice. This you will not believe how much doctors can screw you up and still not depart within the reasonable bonds of medical certainty. You can, I mean, there is an art form you can commit, you know, judicial malpractice, medical malpractice, and not be removed. But what I'm saying is, either way, Judge, President Trump is saying, that's okay, we'll wait. I never believed, going back to usaid, that this, for the longest time, this was the taproot of the corruption that all of the money. Now you know where these people were getting their money from. Now you know where. Samantha power, she's making 30 million. From what? And by the way, remember Samantha Power's husband? Remember Cass Sunstein? Cognitive infiltration. This guy's sick. They have had these lunatics from day one. Now, do you know why these, these Hollywood types have been living high on the hog? They haven't had a film since the 80s you're going to find out a level of corruption where. And we'll call it usaid. But. But this funding source funded everything.

Natalie Morris (54:37)

Everything.

Clayton Morris (54:38)

Joe Biden.

Natalie Morris (54:40)

Yeah. All right, well, there's. Okay.

Clayton Morris (54:43)

The best thing about you is I like when you have on your phone. I'm not taking your calls. You have a little half moon, you call me, you get me upset. Oh, yeah, you do that all the time.

Clayton Morris (54:51)

See, you fired him up.

Natalie Morris (54:52)

Okay.

Clayton Morris (54:53)

Fired him up. We want to thank Lionel from Lionel.

Natalie Morris (54:56)

On my contacts that can text me around the clock.

Clayton Morris (54:58)

We want to thank Lionel from Lionel Nation. He's the author of the book.

Clayton Morris (55:03)

That's me.

Clayton Morris (55:03)

To make a. To make a long story short, that's his new book and. All right, Lionel, great to see you as always.

Clayton Morris (55:12)

Very good.

Clayton Morris (55:15)

If you ever write a book, that's going to be the. Your next book.

Clayton Morris (55:18)

No, it's very simple. It's called make way for Mr. Nobody. It's coming out. And by the way, there's a starring part in there for you, my friend, so don't worry about that.

Natalie Morris (55:24)

Love it.

Clayton Morris (55:25)

Love it.

Clayton Morris (55:25)

And our. Our chat room loves you, by the way.

Clayton Morris (55:29)

Limitation. Sorry.

Clayton Morris (55:32)

All right, well, Lionel, thank you so much.

Clayton Morris (55:35)

Thank you so much.

Natalie Morris (55:36)

Okay. All right. We have more news to get to. We're going to talk about what the heck's going on with this Fort Knox audit, are we? He broke Clayton.

Clayton Morris (55:44)

Is there any gold there actually broke?

Natalie Morris (55:47)

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Clayton Morris (57:21)

So what happened to all of the gold at Fort Knox? Is it there? Is it perfectly secure? Has it been stolen? Has it been sold off? No one seems to know about it. And President Trump is demanding answers. Here's what he had to say. Why we're actually going to Fort Knox.

Natalie Morris (57:35)

To see if the gold is there.

Clayton Morris (57:37)

Because maybe somebody stole the gold, tons of gold.

Clayton Morris (57:41)

So President Trump is going to Fort Knox along with his treasury secretary and a whole group of individuals to see if the gold is actually there. I hope someone actually does a full scale audit on that gold. Brings a knife to actually cut into the gold and see if it's real. Maybe have a few of these senators bite into it and see if it's actually real or not. Right after Trump made those comments though, the price of gold shot through the roof again, hitting new all time highs. It's now almost hitting $3,000 an ounce. Holy smokes. So we wanted to ask our resident gold expert, Kevin Demerit, he's the CEO of Lear Capital, knows all about Fort Knox, what's going on with the gold supply right now, and maybe the devaluing of the US Dollar in all of this. Kevin, welcome to the show. Great to see you again.

Natalie Morris (58:21)

Yeah, thanks for having me back, Clayton.

Clayton Morris (58:23)

So what did you make just over the past few weeks? I mean, it was kind of like I've sent messages to members of Congress, like Congressman Thomas Massie of Kentucky, where Fort Knox sits in his backyard. And I said, hey, Congressman, I'm like, have you invited to go and see the gold? He's like, no, I have not. Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky has been trying for 10 years to go and see the gold at Fort Knox. And there's always been some excuse put up as to why he couldn't get there. So what did you make of this discussion about Fort Knox over the past few weeks.

Natalie Morris (58:51)

First of all, well, geez, if it turns out that Fort Knox gold reserves are a sham, Clayton, then whether it's missing gold or fake gold or exaggerated inventories, I think the consequence for the US Dollar would be absolutely catastrophic. And really, the last audit of Fort Knox Gold occurred in 1974, so about 50 years ago. And really, it wasn't a real audit. It was a carefully selected visit by a handful of select members of Congress and some journalists, and they were only allowed to see a fraction of the gold. So really no real verification process took place. There was no full inventory, no assay of the purity of the gold like you were talking about, or certainly no independent forensic accounting of reserves. So for 50 years, everybody's been kind of holding their breath, you know, when is it that we're going to actually get an audit here? And if it was really there, wouldn't you proudly verify it? And instead we have the government, you know, with statements and, you know, blind faith that we've been living on. So it's. It's going to be great to have somebody get in there and really figure out if this is real or if we have a problem.

Clayton Morris (59:56)

Well, I mean, I think the fact that we haven't had an audit, I mean, like you point out 50 years ago, that was really a fake audit, like a full forensic accounting audit, every piece of gold, to know if it's legitimate. They just went in and took some photos and just glanced at it. Senator Chuck Grassley the other day said, yeah, I was one of those junior senators at the time that went there. And he's like, nothing to see here. The gold's fine. I saw it. No, you didn't, Senator. I mean, with all due respect, you're lying. You didn't see all the gold.

Natalie Morris (60:25)

Yeah, and you can see gold. But China had a huge problem about eight or nine years ago where in their central bank when they went and did an audit of their gold, they found that the gold wasn't the purity that was sent to them. So it's not just an audit. Is. Is I'm looking at gold. It's, did you weigh the bars? Did you assay the bars and are they real? That's completely different. It isn't just, you know, walking in and looking at barrels of oil and saying, okay, yes, there's barrels of barrels of oil there. We have to actually assay those bars and make sure that the, the value or the. The quality of the gold is actually real as well.

Clayton Morris (61:03)

I want to come back to that Point in a moment because I'm an investor of gold. I have been for many, many years. I think I bought gold when it was like $1,800 an ounce. Now it's like $2,900 an ounce. Bank of America saying we could see it going over $3,000 an ounce very soon here. I think it's heading in that trajectory. I want to come back to the purity and how you store gold and all of that. But what would happen, Kevin, if this gold isn't there or if it's not all of the gold is there? What would that mean? Would that mean the Fed has essentially been lying to us for all of these years? And what does it mean for the US Dollar?

Natalie Morris (61:40)

Well, I think you're going to see if even a decent portion of the gold is missing. I think you're going to see four different things. You're going to see a collapse of the US Dollar confidence. The US Dollar is a fiat currency, meaning it has no intrinsic value other than the trust people place in it. And if it's revealed that the government has about the gold reserves for decades, then that trust would shatter almost overnight. So I think we'd see a huge jump in potential inflation as investors in foreign governments, you know, flee the currency. Number two, foreign governments would probably dump U.S. treasuries. So these countries hold massive amounts of our debt obviously. And if they sudden suddenly believe that the US Government has been operating on a fraudulent financial claim, then they could start selling off those bonds and masses and collapse the treasury market. Market. Number three, I think you'd see a massive spike in gold prices because if the golden Fort Knox isn't there, then gold prices would explode in my opinion overnight. It would expose the Federal Reserve's manipulation of the gold markets and the physical gold holders would become ultimate winners while the paper dollar holders probably get wiped out. And lastly, I think it's going to cause a shift, a quicker shift to a new global reserve currency. So you'd probably look at alternative currencies like crypto or even the gold backed currencies like brics. So I think it would really accelerate something like that.

Clayton Morris (63:02)

I mean a devastation for the United States dollar. Tucker Carlson just sat down just the other day with Luke Groman to talk all about gold and he says the CIA doesn't want you to own gold. And he says as we say on the show all the time, all government currency has collapsed. And he said on Tucker's show that's why he's gone all in on buying gold.

Garrett O'Boyle (63:24)

Watch this Gold on some level is a hedge or an insurance policy against the existing system as it has been allowed to evolve over the last 50 years. And so once you get to a certain level of wealth, power, influence within that system, you clearly understand the Achilles heels and the risks and how that system will at some point, mathematically certainty, it could be next week, it could be 50 years from now, will at some point need to be reset in some fashion. You understand that. And it is not in your interest socially, financially, etc. To advocate or advertise that you are hedging or ensuring against the collapse of that system.

Clayton Morris (64:16)

So, Kevin, when, when Luke says that he's all in on gold, and then President Trump has been hinting around the idea of maybe putting the United States back, back on a gold standard, what would that mean? I mean, do you think he's going to do that? What would that mean for gold prices and just the stability of the US Dollar?

Natalie Morris (64:33)

Well, look, we got off the US Dollar because the government wanted to print money willy nilly. I mean, if you have to back every dollar that you print by some portion of gold, that slows down the printing presses. And so if you go back on a gold standard, what portion of the dollar are we going to back back with gold? So Trump's been talking about possibly revaluing gold. You know, if you look at the Fed reserve or you look at Fort Knox and say, okay, if all the, if all the gold in Fort Knox is valued today, which it is at $42.22, that's about $11 billion. There's 261 million ounces in Fort Knox.

Clayton Morris (65:09)

Wait a minute, hold on a second. Just so I understand, like I buy the gold that I own right now is worth, I think the price of gold today is like $2950, right? Give or give or take. So the gold sitting in Fort Knox is valued at $42.

Natalie Morris (65:27)

That's right. So if, if you go all the way back in time, Just a little history lesson. If you go all the way back in time to 1933, US citizens were able to own gold. They actually used gold as money. The government came in in 1933 and confiscated gold at $20 an ounce. The reason was that we had to pay debt in Europe and the Europeans didn't want our paper currency. They wanted something more stable, gold to pay off those, those debts from the war. And so the government confiscated gold at $20 an ounce in 1933. You were not able to own gold legally from 1933 to 1974. And in 1934, they revalued that gold up to $35 an ounce and then paid that gold at $35 an ounce to those governments in Europe to pay off our debt.

Clayton Morris (66:17)

Gold.

Natalie Morris (66:17)

Through time and up until 1974, when you were legally able to own gold, the government then had revalued $42.22 again. And that's where it is on the Federal Reserves or on Fort Knox. And the Federal Reserve's balance sheet is $42.22 per ounce. So if they mark that gold to market, then that gold would be $500 billion worth of gold. And that's what Trump is thinking about doing, because that would help obviously increase the value of the asset side of our balance sheet.

Garrett O'Boyle (66:51)

Sheet.

Natalie Morris (66:52)

Some other people in the government are talking about potentially revaluing gold. The $5,000 an ounce, that would be a trillion dollars of an asset, and then the gold price would be $5,000 for everybody holding gold today. So this has happened in the past two different times, and it could potentially happen again now. And it proves the value of gold. I mean, that's why central banks want to hold it, is because it's the ultimate currency in times of a crisis that a lot of people are talking about right now. The dollar's getting killed. If you back it by a little piece of gold, then the value or the printing press needs to slow down and people have more confidence in the dollar. Clayton, this is exactly what happened in Russia. If you think about it. We put sanctions on Russia, the ruble crashed, and Putin came out and said, hey, look, I'm going to back a little bit of the currency with gold. And it immediately increased by 20%. That's the power of backing a currency with gold.

Clayton Morris (67:50)

The argument I hear from people all the time is like, well, hasn't the Fed just been manipulating the price of gold? So if I buy gold, how do I know it's not being manipulated? But I think what you're saying is that they've been basically manipulating the price down, so they've been keeping it artificially fake low where it should be actually way higher. Am I hearing that correctly?

Natalie Morris (68:11)

Yeah. If they're manipulating gold, they've manipulated on the downside, because if the gold in Fort Knox has been sold then, and that's supply coming onto the market, that would drive the price down. So if it's not there, the price of gold absolutely skyrockets.

Clayton Morris (68:25)

Wow. I'll get you out of here on this, Kevin, which is, how do we know our Gold. Like if we, you guys obviously at Lear Capital sell gold, you guys help people buy gold and they can hold it, I always say you can hold it at home in your gun safe if you want to, like your gold coins and stuff, or you can hold it off site in like a 24 hour security protected facility. But how do you know, like if you buy gold that your gold is legitimate? Like if we're having this discussion about Fort Knox, how do we know that the gold we buy, that's like guarded in a secure facility. Do we get like some sort of an audit on a regular basis? How does that work?

Natalie Morris (69:00)

Yeah, so when you purchase from us, we actually assay the gold, we shoot it with. It's just this gun you shoot it with and it tells you exactly what the quality of the gold is before we ship it out. And we do that for all the gold going through us. If you're holding it at some place like Delaware Depository, then you have two people valuing it. When I send it there, they're going to do an assay of that gold as well and make sure that it's all okay, and then send you out something called the depository receipt. Then you know that your gold is, is, is held there. And that receipt proves that the value of the gold that I sent there or anybody sent there is the value of whatever, you know, showed up. And then that could be gold, silver, platinum or palladium. They value it all.

Clayton Morris (69:43)

Yeah, and I can attest to that. We have those documents in our own personal files. Natalie and I both do. So this is crazy to me. I mean, I never thought I would hear like a President United States talking about Fort Knox and wanting to go and see if the gold is actually there. I think we, in the past 30 days, we've seen some of the most transparent moves in government that I've seen in my lifetime. It's really shocking to me. Final thoughts, Kevin, on what we might or may not find at Fort Knox?

Natalie Morris (70:08)

You know, I'm not really sure. You know, look, I kind of look at this both ways. If you don't find the gold is there, if you find some portion of it's missing, the price of gold goes up. If you do find gold's there, then I think Trump is smart enough to understand a balance sheet and how the Fed works and in the people around him, understand where. Let's mark the gold up to where it's supposed to be. Let's, let's, let's mark it back up or up to. Let's say 20, 20, 900, 29, 50. If he, if he does move it up to 5,000 and I think that's a real chance, and he backs the currency which he's been talking about for a long time, then the US Dollar goes up, but so does the gold price. I really believe right now there's a win, win, win. If you look at all of the gold plating coming into the United States from Europe and also Switzerland, we have the highest percentage of gold coming back into the United states. We have 162 tons from Switzerland and it was, I think 220 tons from England. All of that gold has been taken. Somebody's taken physical possession. That can't be your next door neighbor. This is billions and billions of dollars worth of gold that are coming back into the United States. It either has to be the central bank in the United States or it has to be two or three of the biggest hedge funds out there. They're getting prepared for something. And I think the gold price is going to go much higher than where we're looking at today based on the kind of demand I haven't seen for 13 years and I would have to go all the way back to the 70s and super high inflation to find another time that there's this much demand on gold. So I think, I think the gold price and silver prices are kind of ready to move much higher based on whatever we find in Fort Knox at this particular time.

Clayton Morris (71:45)

Well, you heard it here. Kevin just said something big is coming. I think so too. I think it's very clear what's happening in the markets and gold hitting all time high. So fascinating time here and this is really fascinating time. With the US Dollar. What does this mean for the future of this country? I don't know. I can't remember a time that's been more exciting to watch politics right now and what's happening with our financial system. Kevin, great to see you as always. Thank you so much for your expertise. We always appreciate it.

Natalie Morris (72:11)

Yeah, thanks for having me, Clayton. And you know, we always like to do something special for the redacted listeners. So today we have one thing we have is this phenomenal special report, Fort Knox and the gold revaluation. I think that's going to be helpful. We also have AI and is it the time to hedge with gold? Really interesting article about AI and why gold's important for that. But something special that I just purchased, which was a hundred silver Mercury dimes. So old pure silver Mercury dimes, we wanted to give them away to your audience. Anybody who calls or the first hundred people who give us a phone call, we're going to send one of those Mercury dimes out to the to anybody who calls. If they go online, they can go to learedacted.com we'll get the silver dime out to those people. Or they can give us a phone call at 8006-1335-5780-0613-3557. So I hope everybody enjoys that and I appreciate you having me.

Clayton Morris (73:08)

I'm going to call. No, I won't be allowed to call. That's cool. Kevin, great to see you. Thank you so much for that. Thanks for treating our audience as well. Always appreciate it. Thanks, Kevin.

Natalie Morris (73:18)

You bet. Thanks for having me.

Clayton Morris (73:20)

Thanks so much, Kevin. It's going to be crazy. It's going to be so fascinating to see what happens at Fort Knox and what President Trump and his treasury team find there. And I hope they're open and transparent about what they find find there. They have been so far. So it'll be really, really interesting. And good news for good news for gold prices, especially if they push it up to $5,000 an ounce. That would be absolutely insane. So anyway, well, thank you guys so much for watching. Hey, I should mention we have a daily newsletter. I'd love for you to subscribe to it. It's totally free. It's delivered to your inbox first thing in the morning. Natalie spends a lot of time writing and working on it and the team edits it makes sure that it gets into your inbox first thing in the the morning. So just go to redacted.inc put in your email address. You'll receive a welcome email. You just need to confirm that you want to receive the email. So it might go to your spam folder. Google Labels are our newsletter as Dangerous Apple now has their new like Promotions tab. They've got like promotions. So it might go into your promotions tab. Anyway, just drag it over to your inbox and then on Thursday morning, whatever the next morning is, you'll receive the newsletter in your inbox first thing. So just Redacted Inc. Is the place to go. All right. My thanks to all of you guys. Have a great evening and we'll see you back here tomorrow at 4pM Eastern Time. Have a great night, everyone.