BREAKING! Biden COVER-UP is WORSE than we thought, Epstein death video exists! | Redacted

Summary

Redacted News: Episode Summary Title: BREAKING! Biden COVER-UP is WORSE than we thought, Epstein death video exists! Host: Clayton Morris & Natalie Morris Release Date: May 30, 2025

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1. Biden Cover-Up and Secret Power Structure

The episode opens with Clayton and Natalie Morris delving into escalating revelations surrounding President Joe Biden's administration. Clayton introduces the topic by highlighting new developments in the so-called Biden scandal, questioning, "Who was actually running the Biden White House over the last four years?" [00:34].

Key Points:

• Jared Stepman's Investigation: Clayton references journalist Jared Stepman's article, "Biden's presidency is a scandal of historic proportions," which alleges that a secretive group has been controlling the White House due to Biden's purported mental incapacity.

• Project Veritas Revelation: Recent footage captured Representative Eric Burleson discussing with Project Veritas Vice Chair David Hogue reveals insights into the inner workings of Biden's administration, suggesting that key decisions were made by individuals other than the President.

Notable Quotes:

• Clayton Morris [02:34]: "Joe Biden's chief of staff... wielded an enormous amount of power in the White House."

• Kyle Seraphin [03:15]: "He was like a shadowy figure... I can't stress to you how much power he had in the White House."

2. Interview with Representative Eric Burleson

Representative Eric Burleson from the House Oversight Committee joins the show to discuss the purported misuse of the auto-pin system for executive actions within the Biden administration.

Key Points:

• Auto-Pin Scandal: Burleson confirms concerns that high-ranking officials were issuing executive orders without President Biden's direct involvement, potentially circumventing standard protocols.

• Call for Accountability: He emphasizes the need for accountability among cabinet members who allegedly witnessed Biden's decline but failed to act, suggesting that they should have invoked Article 25 of the Constitution.

• Focus on Future Policies: While acknowledging the severity of the scandal, Burleson advocates for Congress to prioritize forward-looking policies to rectify the administration's perceived missteps.

Notable Quotes:

• Rep. Eric Burleson [07:58]: "They should have invoked Article 25 of the Constitution... if they cared about the country."

• Rep. Burleson [10:37]: "The American people deserve to know who was actually running the government during that time period."

3. Jeffrey Epstein Death Video Claims and Counterpoints

A significant portion of the episode addresses the controversial claims regarding Jeffrey Epstein's death, with discussions featuring claims from Dan Bongino and counterarguments from former FBI whistleblower Kyle Seraphin.

Key Points:

• Dan Bongino's Statement: Bongino asserts that there is video evidence proving Epstein's suicide, though it does not capture the act itself. He hints at forthcoming disclosures but lacks specific details.

• Kyle Seraphin's Skepticism: Seraphin challenges Bongino's claims, pointing out inconsistencies such as the absence of vigilant surveillance during Epstein's incarceration and the questionable nature of the alleged video footage.

• Autopsy Discrepancies: Discussions highlight conflicting autopsy reports, with one pathologist suggesting suicide and another, Michael Baden, indicating signs of homicide.

Notable Quotes:

• Dan Bongino [19:57]: "There's video clear as day. He's the only person in there and the only person coming out."

• Kyle Seraphin [24:21]: "I just keep seeing more and more questions and not good answers."

• Kyle Seraphin [32:40]: "All I know is that the autopsy results are inconsistent with a simple suicide."

4. HHS Cancels Bird Flu Vaccine Development

The hosts discuss the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services' (HHS) recent decision to cancel a substantial contract awarded to Moderna for the development of a bird flu vaccine.

Key Points:

• Contract Cancellation: Natalie Morris highlights that the Biden administration terminated a $5.59 million contract with Moderna, originally intended to prepare for a potential bird flu pandemic.

• Contrasting Views: The episode contrasts this decision with a recent 60 Minutes report warning of an imminent bird flu pandemic, suggesting possible motives behind the cancellation, such as concerns over gain-of-function research.

• Expert Opinions: Former FBI whistleblower Kyle Seraphin criticizes the move, arguing that the cancellation could leave the country unprepared for a viral outbreak and reflects deeper governmental dysfunction.

Notable Quotes:

• Natalie Morris [46:47]: "If we're not doing gain of function, then maybe we don't need a vaccine for the hypothetically manipulated virus."

• Kyle Seraphin [49:04]: "They always use the excuse that it's to make us more prepared... The reality is this is very dangerous research."

5. Democrats' $20 Million Spend to Understand Men

The episode critiques the Democratic Party's allocation of $20 million towards understanding and communicating more effectively with men, framing it as a misguided attempt to engage with a demographic they allegedly misunderstand.

Key Points:

• Project Description: Natalie Morris refers to a New York Times report about Democrats investing heavily to better connect with men, questioning the efficacy and intent behind such expenditures.

• Toxic Masculinity Debate: The discussion pivots to "toxic masculinity," with the hosts and guests arguing that Democrats unfairly stereotype men and fail to recognize their contributions and challenges.

• Cultural Disconnect: There's an emphasis on how Democratic strategies may alienate men by condescending to them and failing to appreciate their real-world experiences and needs.

Notable Quotes:

• Natalie Morris [56:15]: "What interests overlap between a man whose main interest is to protect and provide for their family and that person?"

• Jared Stepman [65:33]: "If the Democrats are gonna spend $20 million to try to figure out how to win men back, it's the most misogynistic thing I'm going to say."

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Conclusion

In this episode of Redacted News, Clayton and Natalie Morris tackle several contentious issues, including alleged cover-ups within the Biden administration, the mysterious circumstances surrounding Jeffrey Epstein's death, the cancellation of critical health contracts, and the perceived missteps of the Democratic Party in engaging with male constituents. Through interviews with political figures like Representative Eric Burleson and former FBI whistleblowers like Kyle Seraphin, the hosts aim to unveil hidden truths and challenge mainstream narratives.

Disclaimer: This summary reflects the discussions and viewpoints presented in the podcast episode and does not endorse or verify the accuracy of the claims made therein.

Transcript

[Clayton Morris]

And wake up, everybody. Welcome into Redacted. I'm Clayton Morris.

[Natalie Morris]

I'm Natalie Morris.

[Clayton Morris]

We're live from the Rocky Mountains. Good to see all of you. 2:00pm Mountain Time, 4:00pm East Coast Time. We've got a busy, busy show for you on this Thursday. Representative Eric Burleson is gonna be joining us from the Oversight committee because. Wow. New revelations about the Biden scandal. The Biden cover up. Who was actually running the Biden White House. The auto pen scandal, it just got way worse. And President Trump weighing in on that. So will we get answers in testimony in front of Congress? Who was actually running things while Biden was Weekend at Bernie's.

[Natalie Morris]

We're also gonna talk about the FBI saying, oh, no, Epstein killed himself. We have proof. Oh, you have footage? Not exactly.

[Clayton Morris]

There's a video.

[Natalie Morris]

Yeah. Okay. This continues to smell fishier and fishier, so we're gonna look at that. Also, the Health and Human Services Department has canceled the bird flu vaccine. Do you need to panic about this? Because remember, just last month 60 Minutes said that this is going to be bigger than Covid. This is worse than. Should keep you up at night. We're gonna let you know if you can sleep tonight or not. You'll hear it from us.

[Clayton Morris]

Also, Democrats are spending $20 million to figure out how to communicate better with men. Here's an idea. Maybe not hiring men who dress up in women's clothing pretending to be women. Maybe that's a good place to start. We'll talk about that. Also on today's show, I should mention today is our Rumble Premium days. So you'll have a free show. The whole show will be free. But at the end of today's show, we're gonna hang out because it's Rumble Premium afternoon. We're just gonna, just for Rumble Premium subscribers, gonna hang out a little bit. And yes, that is behind the Rumble Premium subscription. So if you're, if you're one of those people, join us and we'll hang out after the show. But we've got a lot of news to get to on this Thursday, so let's jump into it, shall we? We wanna talk about this Biden cover up because it's getting worse by the minute. Why? I mean, who was really running the Biden White House over the last four years? Earlier this week, we had on journalist Jared Stepman, who wrote a great piece called Biden's presidency is a scandal of historic proportions. The secret group of people who were running the White House, the executive branch, because the, the. Because the president was essentially Brain dead. A weekend at Bernie's style. Well, over the past 24 hours, it just got worse because DNC Vice Chair David Hogue was caught on camera by Project Veritas over lunch or dinner or whatever. It was basically spilling the beans on exactly who was running things at the Biden White House Watch.

[Eric Burleson]

Ultimately, the bigger issue was, like, the.

[Jared Stepman]

Inner circle that was around Biden.

[Kyle Seraphin]

That's it. And I came strength. I came strength to see you.

[Clayton Morris]

Enough.

[Jared Stepman]

Joe Biden's chief of staff, like, had.

[Kyle Seraphin]

An enormous amount of power.

[Clayton Morris]

Joe Biden, Joe Biden's chief of staff.

[Kyle Seraphin]

That was like an open secret at the leftmost. Like, I would avoid him. Like, he was scary. What was his name? Anthony. I've never seen him exactly. What do you mean? He's just like, he's like a shadowy, like, Blizzard of Oz type figure. That's what made him so, like, I knew how he looked, but I'm like, the general public wouldn't know how this man looked, but he wielded any, like, an enormous amount of power. And I can't stress to you how much power he had in the White House.

[Clayton Morris]

I can't stress to you how much power he had in the White House. So he was like a shadowy figure. Didn't really want to be on camera, didn't want to really be interacting with anyone, but he was really running the White House. And it makes a lot of sense when you think about the conflict that we heard, the fighting that was taking place between Jill Biden and the Obama team, which was essentially trying to push Biden out, trying to make sure that he wouldn't run, that he would actually say, I'm not going to run after all, writing this letter, submitting this letter, saying, I'm going to do what's right for the country, what's right for the party. I'm going to step aside. And then in subsequent interviews, Biden almost seemed to, like, not even really know about the letter and almost, like, not even really admit that he wanted to drop out. Like, he was sort of forced to. And there was fighting inside the White House, reportedly at the time. We covered it here. Jill Biden sort of screaming matches with, like, Team Obama.

[Natalie Morris]

Is there any way that we could could see this? Because we have so few answers at this point. Is there any way that Jill Biden was only protecting her husband and that there was someone else manipulating her? Is there any way we could give her a pass? That's a possibility. We really don't know. Right. That she was only protecting her husband. I Have no idea. But we do know we had Joe Biden early in 2024 saying, I am running. So there were clearly people in power who wanted to keep it, who felt like Joe Biden's name and body was the only way, in fact, to do that.

[Clayton Morris]

Well, and it's a brilliant strategy, right, because if he's still there, just in body, but not in mind, then the wife can control things. I mean, this is exactly what happened with Woodrow Wilson. I mean, he was essentially in a coma and the first lady was running the United States of America. And so because he was there, he was still alive, she could call the shots. She was basically able to play defense and say, well, here's what the President wants here. I'm speaking on behalf of the President. I mean, in many ways, this is a constitutional crisis. But you had a group, as Alex Thompson wrote for just reported and told Jeffrey Goldberg from the Atlantic, what a group of guys this is, that basically that there was a politburo running, secretly running the Biden White House, and his aides were basically willing to do all sorts of undemocratic things to stop Trump. He co authored that book, the Original Sin, President Biden's Decline. He wrote it with Jake Tapper. To me, this was like maybe the most revelatory piece of this reporting that's come out because we knew all the stuff that Jake Tapper has been talking about. It seems like he's the one that didn't know about it.

[Natalie Morris]

Right? Oh, it's been super fun to make, you know, watch his revelation that politicians and the government lies. That. That's super fun for you to Learn in your 50s after a lifetime of journalists journalism.

[Clayton Morris]

But Alex Thompson, his reporting actually is pretty interesting here. He asserts that a secret cadre of AIDS ran the White House like a shadowy politburo that concealed President Biden's failing mental health. So this group of aides was essentially calling the shots. And therefore then what does that mean for the auto pen piece of this? Like, you're gonna pardon these individuals? You're gonna. Do you think Biden was sitting there saying, calling up his staff, I really wanna pardon these individuals? He said, no, he wasn't. This group, this secret group of aides running the White House was calling the shots and then choosing who was gonna be using this auto pen and how they were gonna push this forward for all these pardons.

[Natalie Morris]

Now, look, these are professional criminals. They must have known that what they were doing was wrong, which means they will have a professional way to have hidden this. Now, just a Few hours ago. Senator Ron intends to subpoena Jill Biden to ask questions about the President's decline in order to surmise who was doing what, when, who was covering up with who. So you have to imagine that we're not going to find a paper trail. Let's say, oh, you pardoned this person. What aide was in contact with this person? Who told you to do it? How can we possibly know this? I'm feeling very pessimistic about it.

[Clayton Morris]

Well, let's, let's be glass half full with our next guest, Representative ERIC I.

[Natalie Morris]

Cannot commit to that.

[Clayton Morris]

Representative ERIC Eric Burleson is on the House Oversight Committee. They are demanding testimony from at least four high ranking Biden staffers that might have changed since I wrote this, including the man you just saw being talked about there, Anthony Bernal, Jill Biden's chief of staff. Representative Burleson joins us now. Good to see you, Congressman. Welcome back to the show.

[Eric Burleson]

Great to be back.

[Clayton Morris]

So President Trump just posted on Truth Social that the real story here is the auto pen scandal. Basically, these aides secretly using the power of the presidency. They weren't elected. These individuals weren't elected. He says whoever has control of it is involved in a major crime. Is that how you see it? These people are criminals.

[Eric Burleson]

Yeah. And I do think that they need to take responsibility for their actions. I also think the cabinet members need to take responsibility for the fact that they all witnessed his decline and yet they did nothing about it. They should have invoked Article 25 of the Constitution and the, if they cared about the country, what was in the best interest of this country? Which is why I think that the public, the press need to be asking those former cabinet members, including people that some of that are running for president right now, Pete, Buddha, Judge and others, why they didn't invoke Article 25. Why didn't they when they knew that he was mentally incapable of running this country.

[Natalie Morris]

Now I see some conversation online with people saying if Joe Biden didn't know what he was doing, which seems to be clear, then some of what he did should be unwound. How can you unwind four years of hell? And where would we even start? You can't undo the illegal immigration, you can't undo aid to Ukraine. You can't undo, I mean, I guess maybe you could undo ev mandates. The president seems to be doing that. But is that even a productive conversation or is that wishful thinking?

[Eric Burleson]

No, I do think that we need to evaluate whether or not the executive orders that were signed with an auto pin, particularly when the President wasn't even in the country, have carried the same weight that the President's signature carries. I don't think that a staffer using the auto pin has the same weight of the President. And look, there are moments where the speaker of the House, when he would meet with Joe Biden. This is a story that has become somewhat, it's been repeated again and again that when Johnson, and I believe McCarthy, when he was speaker as well, met with Joe Biden, they asked him about particular executive orders that he had, quote, unquote, signed, and Biden knew nothing about them. So I think that there's, there's enough testimony and anecdotal stories out there that, that Biden was not, that he was not in the loop or clued in or even capable of understanding what was being signed.

[Clayton Morris]

Your colleague, James Comer, also on the Oversight Committee, you're going to bring these people before the Oversight Committee to demand answers on this. Who are you hoping to see? What questions do you specifically have for these individuals?

[Eric Burleson]

Yeah, I think that, I think we need to know what do they know? When do they know it? Who was actually the ones running the government during that time period? I think the American people deserve to know. But I'll be honest, I think that for me, while we need to get to the bottom of this, to me, this is a tangential issue. We need to focus on moving forward on a lot of, a lot of the policies, which is why I think that, look, he did a ton of damage to this country. And I don't want the history books to ignore all the damage that Joe Biden did and to ignore this scandal. But what's done is done, to your point. And I think that we ought to make it a priority to focus on where we go from here and how do we make things better for the United States, how do we correct some of the damage that the Biden administration has done? But I also think that we can do both. We can spend time on this. It just, in my opinion, shouldn't be the number one priority of Congress right now.

[Clayton Morris]

But, yeah, I mean, there's always, there's always a. Sorry, you're right, Congressman. I mean, there's always the phrase, right, you don't want to step over. You don't want to step over dimes to pick up pennies. Right. And you're constantly focusing backwards on, on these crimes. However, to your point, like, what can we do to improve things? My question, I guess, is how can we make sure this never happens again? Right. Can Congress Pass certain laws, whether it's a yearly sort of mental capacity checkup or something like that. Is there any way that we can ensure that this sort of thing doesn't happen again? Again, I mentioned Woodrow Wilson off the top of the show. We know that this has happened before and it just happened While we have 24 hour social media and 24 hour cable news channels that happened right front of our faces 100 years after Woodrow Wilson.

[Eric Burleson]

Yeah. And I think that we do have the constitutional amendment in place. It's just, it has, it wasn't utilized and we had no help from the press in this. I think that one of the groups that needs to be brought forward are, you know, officials of the press who absolutely knew and were covering up this scandal as well. Because look it, you know, you're part of the press. But. And I think that you understand that you hold a responsibility for keeping this republic alive and keeping it, keeping our rights and our freedoms. And that means you have a sacred honor as well as the people who are elected like myself. I think our press let the country down in this moment. And I think that also those officials who were, whether it's the Vice president or members of the Cabinet, let the country down. And the question, to me, the law is in place. The question is how do we now make it so that if it ever happens again that a future cabinet will, will be, will be compelled to take action as opposed to just sit on the sidelines and try to ignore it.

[Natalie Morris]

It's also, people go to jail all the time for taking advantage of elderly people. I have a friend who runs a nursing home and they have to have high security children and grandchildren. Don't come in and ask grandma to sign away money that they then are the beneficiaries of. This happens at a very low level all the time. So how can it happen at the upper echelon of our country? And how can we criminalize people for doing it in small measure when it clearly happened in large measure? So, you know, I think that we want to see some people who were manipulating an elderly person held account, don't we? I mean, Congress doesn't have the power to punish anybody. All could do is refer to the Justice Department.

[Eric Burleson]

Yeah, refer to the Justice Department and then hopefully the, the D.C. district Court Judge or you know, the prosecuting attorney, Janine, will now be able to take action on that. But, but at the end of the day, I think Congress needs to investigate and then refer it to the Justice Department for, for action. So I, I think that there's an opportunity here. There is a possible. I shouldn't say opportunity. It's a possibility that people might face criminal prosecution. And maybe that's the stick that we need in order to make sure that this doesn't happen again.

[Clayton Morris]

Representative ERIC Burleson, good luck with this. I mean, we'll be watching to see what kind of answers these guys are forthcoming with.

[Natalie Morris]

And once again, I bring up that this is the exact plot of the movie. Dave. I cannot let this go until every single one of our audience members watch. Watches the movie. Dave.

[Clayton Morris]

She's trying to push this movie on every one of our guests.

[Natalie Morris]

Congressman, have you seen this movie?

[Eric Burleson]

It has been so long since I've seen it, so I've forgotten the plot.

[Natalie Morris]

You must rewatch the movie because we again had an independent press pushing back. I'm sorry. I'm gonna tell everybody, watch this movie as a template because we were warned.

[Clayton Morris]

What with an incapacitated president while people on AIDS were running the White House around everything. Yeah, it's exactly. It is exactly the plot of that.

[Natalie Morris]

Yeah. And it's a delightful movie, but it's not supposed to happen in reality.

[Clayton Morris]

Right. It's supposed to be a comedy, and this was not a comedy. Congressman, great to see you as always. Thank you so much for joining us. We appreciate it.

[Eric Burleson]

Thank you. God bless.

[Clayton Morris]

God bless. And now you have your movie watching for the weekend.

[Natalie Morris]

Congressman, I can't let it go.

[Clayton Morris]

I know.

[Natalie Morris]

It's just too. Because you had these nefarious people who then were in fact indicted by the Justice Department because of what they did. No. Okay. So. No. All right, we have more news to get to. What are we going to talk about, Clayton? We're going to talk about Epstein.

[Clayton Morris]

Yeah. Because Dan Bongino on Fox and Friends, you know, the. These guys, by the way, they only do FOX News interviews. They will not do any independent media interviews anymore. It's very odd. Who's like guarding the hen house right now. It's kind of crazy. Anyway, they were on Fox News saying that, yep, Epstein did kill himself. There's video. What kind of video?

[Kyle Seraphin]

Really?

[Clayton Morris]

Well, we have a lot of questions about that. And so, by the way, does the brother of Jeffrey Epstein as to why certain people weren't investigated, like the EMTs, the, the hospital staff, all of those individuals left out of the DOJ investigation. So we're going to speak with a former FBI whistle, whistleblower about all of that on the show. But first, cocoa flavanols. I don't know if you guys have. You guys know about this have insane health benefits. I'm talking about boosting nitric oxide, improving heart health, regenerative brain cells. Listen to world renowned scientist from Harvard, Dr. William Lee explain this. Watch.

[Eric Burleson]

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[Kyle Seraphin]

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[Eric Burleson]

Is cacao or chocolate. It turns out that studies have been done where if you take high flavanols and make a hot chocolate out of.

[Kyle Seraphin]

It and you drink it just twice.

[Eric Burleson]

A day, two cups a day for 30 days, you can start by measuring your stem cells. And this is from 16 subjects. And you can make the stem cell levels go up. This is two cups of hot chocolate, of high flavanol hot chocolate just twice a day. By the way, all of these patients had cardiovascular disease. They had documented blockages in their arteries in their heart and they could get more stem cells going. A larger study, 20,000 people in Germany showed that those who ate seven and a half grams of chocolate per day lowered the risk of heart attack or stroke by 39%. It's not the dairy in the chocolate, it's not the sugar in the chocolate. It is that natural chemical in cacao. And that's what we need to be able to do is, you know, the final product that we're served up by companies isn't necessarily what's good for us, but we need to be able to discern what it is that is actually in the food that might be doing us a favor.

[Clayton Morris]

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[Dan Bongino]

I'm just telling you what we see in the file. I am. I just want to be crystal clear on this. I am not asking anyone to believe me. I'm telling you what's there and what isn't.

[Clayton Morris]

Right?

[Dan Bongino]

There is nothing in the file at this point on the Epstein case. And there's going to be a disclosure on this coming shortly. We are working through some. There is video. That is something the public.

[Clayton Morris]

There's video of him killing himself.

[Dan Bongino]

No, no, not. Not the actual act, but the entire MCC Bay, it was only one camera. There were other. There's video that when you look at the video. And we will release. That's what's taken a while on this. We are working on cleaning it up to make sure you have an enhanced and we're going to give the original. So you don't think there were any shenanigans. You're going to see there's no one there but him, right? There's just nobody there. So I say to people, if you have a tip, let us know. But there's no DNA. There's no audio. There's no fingerprints. There's no suspects. There's no accomplices. There's no tips. There is nothing. If you have it, I'm happy to see it. There's video clear as day. He's the only person in there and the only person coming out. You can see it.

[Clayton Morris]

Okrask it.

[Natalie Morris]

So Fox saying, okay, yeah, there's video of every bit until he actually kills himself. We used to have video of him at every moment, but just not for whatever reason. But we have it up until the point. And the journalists are like. Nothing else for me to say. Then I guess the case closed.

[Clayton Morris]

This is why you only do Fox News interviews like that. You get no personality.

[Natalie Morris]

I accept this unequivocally, sir.

[Clayton Morris]

Yeah, just do. That's why again, you won't go on independent Media do any kind of interviews. Like, they're totally guarding these people from doing interviews. Outside of Fox, absolutely 100% grass guy in our rumble chat says, I really hope Bongino has absolutely no choice but to lie. Zeril in our rumble chat says, dude, what about all the evidence? And then Tucson man says, he's talking shit. I love that. Thank you for that. In our rumble chat.

[Natalie Morris]

Put it simply.

[Clayton Morris]

So we have lots of questions and still no answers. And here are just a few of my questions. Why did the medical examiner who wasn't at the autopsy rule it a suicide? Again, the medical examiner who ruled it a suicide didn't do the autopsy. Wasn't there at the autopsy. Isn't that kind of important? Why did the medical examiner who did the autopsy along with Michael Baden, world renowned medical examiner, Michael Baden, friend of the show Michael Baden ruled that said that it was a homicide.

[Natalie Morris]

He says his injuries were inconsistent with the ability to self inflict. Yeah, like you can't really break your own bones in this way if you hang yourself.

[Clayton Morris]

And he later said, this is consistent with a homicide. Why were none of the EMTs or hospital staff interviewed by the DOJ? They were first on the scene. They also saw the body when it arrived at the hospital. Right. Seems like an important group of people to interview.

[Natalie Morris]

Why was he taken off of suicide watch just days before? Why was his roommate moved out? And it was decided he was not only not a suicide risk, but a okay to be alone from now on. Was he coerced? These are all questions that Fox News should have said. Okay, wait, no. Like we can't just say he walks into a room and no one's. And we accept that no one was there and that's the end of it. No. Right.

[Clayton Morris]

Why was no one watching his cell at all? Former FBI agent turned whistleblower Kyle Seraphin is not buying it. He's here with us now. Kyle, great to see you again. Welcome back to the show.

[Kyle Seraphin]

Hey, y' all. I like the movie Dave a lot, or whatever it's worth. And it's an Ivan Reichman film, which makes it even better. Just saying.

[Natalie Morris]

Yes, we watched it with all three of our children, ages 8 to 14, and everyone loved it.

[Kyle Seraphin]

And it's a fantastic movie.

[Natalie Morris]

Exactly what happened during the vine years.

[Clayton Morris]

It is.

[Kyle Seraphin]

And you know what would not be a good movie is a movie where a guy goes into a cell, they kill the camera, and then everybody just says he killed himself. And so we have to trust you. And that's the end of the movie. That's the roll crack.

[Clayton Morris]

No one would believe that's not a good movie if you were pitching that in Hollywood. It's like, come on. No one's gonna buy that. Wait a minute. The cameras are conveniently turned off. Everything. The, the, you move the. You moved his roommate out a few days earlier. You took him off of suicide watch a few days earlier. No one was there. The guards were sleeping. You didn't interview any of the EMTs or hospital staff. Like no one would buy that in Hollywood.

[Natalie Morris]

The check logs, my wife were false.

[Kyle Seraphin]

My wife is yelling at the TV when that happens. She's like, no, they're gonna get him. You know, like she's yelling. She knows what's happening next. Listen, I don't know if he killed himself or not, and I'm totally open to that being the case. But what you don't want to do, and I don't know how to tell these guys to stop self inflicting. Don't go on television. They know like Dan knows better. He's a media guy. Don't go on television. And then imagine if I came on your show here and, and I just like every time I talk to you guys, I just looked away when I said things that were important and I just introduced novel information. Like there's a video. And you go, oh my God, is there a video of the death? And you're like, no, no, it's just a video. Not the video. There's a video. It's just. These are self inflicted wounds. Like if you're trying to gain credibility and you want to do that. I actually think he is trying to do that. I think he's trying to. I don't know what he's trying to say, but these are very imperfectly given and, and they are even less credible when you're doing it with a Fox News crew that's just going to, I mean, at one point in time they were like trying to hold his hand. He said he gave up everything and now he's living in Washington D.C. it's like, did you give up your, your multi million dollar stakes in businesses? Did you give up. Like, I, I don't want you to give those up. But like, are you saying that you don't have any money anymore and you're living on a government salary? Because I don't believe that. It's just. Don't.

[Clayton Morris]

Yeah, these are unfortunate.

[Kyle Seraphin]

You don't.

[Clayton Morris]

Yeah, yeah. If someone didn't see that part of the interview he was talking about how he's like, you know, he's like, I'm basically divorced from my wife. He's like, I'm not actually divorced because. But I'm, you know, I'm here in D.C. and I'm now dealing with this. I'm not divorced, but it's, you know, I'm not really. So it was, it was like sort of almost like a crying moment about this. It was about, you know, sort of himself rather than, you know, the nation. I. I'm always sort of bothered when, like, politicians turn or, you know, people like that sort of turn it back on themselves. You know, it's about me. The American people wanted these.

[Kyle Seraphin]

If you're getting interviewed about your story and you want to tell your story and why you did something, then great. But if you're someone who came out of an audience that had millions of people that listened to it every single day, and everybody knows your story and they know why you're there, then you don't need to make it about you. You're there as the FBI deputy director, who, by the way, doesn't do interviews. The FBI deputy director doesn't do interviews ever. Like, when was the last. Did you see Paula Bate doing interviews? No. Did you see David Bowditch do interviews? No. You didn't see these people because they don't do interviews. It's not the job of the deputy. The, the director does a couple interviews and they're almost always puff pieces and it's walkthrough. And this is how great our facility is. And we have the best people and the greatest people love to come here. And then that's it. And like, they're never hard hitting. They never have been. You know, it's strange to try to act like we're doing transparency. And at the same time, what I'm telling you is that I can't be transparent. And there's a video, but not the video. And you'll see it eventually. And we're gonna, we get body cam footage in days and those are way more sensitive, like shootings and people that have, you know, that are actively involved in this investigations. You get those videos. The FBI can't give you a video from a prison, from the BOP they've.

[Natalie Morris]

Had for five years where he's supposedly walking alone. So we need to look at this and clean it up, but we'll release the original. So you don't think we did anything to it. But it's literally only him alone walking into a room.

[Kyle Seraphin]

Yeah. What are you, what are you cleaning up?

[Natalie Morris]

This, this doesn't make sense. And Also, I, I want to ask you if you, you heard this dog whistle to those of us who don't believe him, saying, you don't have to believe me, but as if, like, I still understand your side, but I'm saying this.

[Kyle Seraphin]

It almost is argument to authority. These are not good arguments. Again, these are self inflicted. It's a, it's a bad movie plot. And, and you don't need to do that. You just don't like, you'd be, they'd be better off. I'm not a media consultant, but I can tell you who their media consultant is because I've dealt with her like, stop booking these interviews, stop having people come out and say, we're going to give you some information, but it's going to be in a little while you're not going to be able to run the clock out. Like this is a podcast and you know, coming up next week is going to be something really shocking. Make sure you subscribe. Like, that's not what's going on here. You're in charge of a federal law enforcement agency that also has intelligence problems. And we got real issues in that agency. And by the way, you can't go for eight years and tell me that you don't trust the people that work there and at the same time you trust the file that you've got that came from the people that work there and did the investigation. You can't redo it. You know, we talked about this last time. Have you exhumed bodies? Have you read on the toxicology? Have you had the eyes, you know, have you had somebody else look over the report? What is it that has convinced you? And you can make that argument. You actually could, you could say, listen, here's the things we did. Full transparency. We've won out and we've, we've, you know, exhumed a body, we've done a new toxicology report or we reevaluated the evidence that was existing. You know, we had these people look over it. We have fresh eyes. You know, we took in brand new recruits right out of the academy, asked them for the perspective so they weren't tainted by any, you know, whatever. Give me some reason other than I told you I saw the file. It's just, or don't say anything at all, which is also equally good, by the way. People will tend to forget. The sad thing is I saw Julie Kelly go out and say that the F scene files are irrelevant and this case is boring and she's over it and they all got away with it. And no one's going to be prosecuted. And I know how close she is with those folks. She was running that podcast circuit. She was on the radio shows. So is that. My unofficial statement is that we're never going to hear about it? Because that's what I got from it. And that makes me. That makes me cringe at every level. I just. I don't. I don't want this for America. I don't want this for these guys. Like, I actually want FBI reform, even. And if we don't get Epstein files, great. Give me prosecutions. I think we talked about that previously. Wouldn't it be nice if people stop, you know, stubbing their toes or putting their feet in their mouth?

[Clayton Morris]

Yeah. Yeah. I want to play this for you because this has been a few years old now, but not a few years. Well, maybe about a year. Year or so. So this is the brother of Jeffrey Epstein. When asked directly by our friend Tucker Carlson, do you believe the suicide narrative? And here's what he had to say. Watch.

[Kyle Seraphin]

Do you think your brother killed himself? Not now, no. When I first heard he was dead from suicide, I had no reason to doubt it, so I accepted that. But then after the autopsy and after Bill Bob made that asinine statement, I said this was not a suicide. But when you first heard the news, you were not. You thought it was a possibility that he killed himself? Yeah, I accepted it as a fact. I heard it on the news. The government didn't notify me, as they said. I heard it on CNN in the morning of the 10th. And you're his only survivor? You're the only surviving relative?

[Clayton Morris]

Yes.

[Natalie Morris]

Yes.

[Kyle Seraphin]

He has no children, and our parents are gone, and there's no other siblings. When did you start to think that he did not kill himself? Well, after the autopsy. And both pathologists, the city pathologist and Dr. Barton came out of the autopsy, and they said, this doesn't look like a suicide. It looks more like a homicide. So what did you do then? Well, I. Okay, I figured we have to look into this and see what's going on. Were you shocked that he might have been killed? It came as a surprise, yeah. So, as his only surviving relative, what did you do to find out what happened to him? Well, I started to inquire about what took place. You know, the Justice Department was supposedly investigating. The initial death certificate said pending when it said cause of death. Which means pending further investigation. Yes. So. But then a few days later, it was declared a suicide by the chief pathologist, who was not at the autopsy. And the questions became what?

[Clayton Morris]

So. So Kyle, what stands out to you about that?

[Kyle Seraphin]

The pending is interesting. Usually autopsies take a while. You know, in my experience with death investigations, which is only a handful, I worked on an engine reservation for a while. Even when you have open and shut cases, and it's very obvious. Like I had a case where we walked in and, you know, somebody had hung themself in a very kind of similar manner. But it was clear it was a closed and locked house in a closed and rock room with no way in. And the body was hung in such a way that actually blocked the door so there'd be no way to exit.

[Clayton Morris]

And.

[Kyle Seraphin]

And you go, okay. And. And also the person was sitting at like a pretty low height, could have stood up at any moment and was clinically depressed. I mean, that's one of the questions you asked. Did this person have a. A history of suicidality? Did they. Did they have that possibility in their head where they. Were they clinically. You know, in the mindset where they might do it? And when they say yes, then. And all the facts line up, then you have a pretty good answer. You can imagine very clearly that somebody who's fallen from being a billionaire and running around the world and having private jets and doing all kinds of scandalous stuff, and then suddenly not having any of that, not even being able to decide whether or not they had access to a bathroom, like that could be a debilitating scenario. I could see a spiral. That happens. But it.

[Natalie Morris]

They just.

[Kyle Seraphin]

I just keep seeing more and more questions and not good answers. When you want to go out and affirm and tell people the story, you lay your cards on the table and you play cards open. You don't need to play poker and keep things. The vest. There's no privacy issues there. The only person that would have privacy would be the family member. And, and if he wants to know the answer, I like, you know, I don't know that he didn't kill himself. And, and I don't know that it actually matters as much to anybody at the end of the day, because all of this stuff ends up being. I think it's like a laser pointer where we're. We're attacking the red dot on the, on the carpet, like the cat. And the hand that's moving it around is, is keeping us away from the fact that this guy was theoretically involved in sex trafficking of, of minors and a blackmail operation of people who are really powerful. And none of those people have been highlighted. And that's really the issue at the End of the day, for me, like, I just. People commit suicide, and it's sad, and it happens, and we. We lose far too many veterans and people that have, like, chosen an easy out for or a permanent solution to, you know, to a temporary problem. I don't think Jeffrey Epstein had a great life to look forward to if he was convicted. But I would really like to know the people that he was involved with, because that seems far more important. And I'd like to hear, like, listen, we may not ever show you all this stuff, but we're gonna get some indictments on the people that were involved in working with this man. That would have been the right answer.

[Natalie Morris]

And so instead, we continue to, like you said, get these weird media narratives that we just feel like don't add up. Now, a couple weeks ago on our show, you said the FBI doesn't have, like, rooms of boxes, but they keep now saying, oh, we found these boxes in rooms, in rooms that James Comey had hidden. I immediately, immediately thought of the room of requirement in Harry Potter. Like, this exists, right? Obviously. Watch this clip and then tell us again, is it possible? Or is this again, fiction, or is.

[Clayton Morris]

This like the hand with the laser pointer? Exactly. Yeah.

[Kyle Seraphin]

It's my ongoing analogy. Go ahead.

[Dan Bongino]

Wait till you read the stuff that's coming out.

[Clayton Morris]

But does he still have a loyalist in the building? Because when I hear the FBI director saying, you guys are finding boxes that are hidden. Okay, how does that happen in the Bureau?

[Dan Bongino]

Well, we were there a couple of weeks, and luckily there were a lot of people up there who grabbed us by the arm the minute we came in and said, thank you for being here. You know, we need to talk. There are people there who are really horrified at what happened. And there was a room, and we found stuff, a lot of stuff.

[Clayton Morris]

A hidden room.

[Dan Bongino]

I wouldn't call it hidden, but hidden from us, at least, and not mentioned to us. And then we found stuff in there, and a lot of it's from the Comey era, and we are working our damnedest right now to declassify, just so you know, because I get the public. I totally understand people saying, we'll do it now. The process is not all the information is ours to declassify some as other intelligence agencies.

[Kyle Seraphin]

It's not.

[Dan Bongino]

We literally can't do it. Once that gets done and that gets out there. And you read some of the stuff we found that, by the way, was not processed through the normal procedure. Digitizing it, putting in FBI records. We found it in bags hiding under Jim Comey. Yeah. You're going to be stunned.

[Natalie Morris]

Okay, Jim Comey hasn't run the FBI in a very long time.

[Clayton Morris]

Hidden rooms. So what do you make of that?

[Kyle Seraphin]

I have so many questions. Number one, somebody came up. You're trying to tell me that somebody came up at the J. Edgar Hoover Building, the FBI headquarters, and grabbed you by the arm and said, I'm so glad you're here. Like the people that are in the middle of Washington D.C. like the worst part of the FBI, it's the. It's an abominable building when you walk into it. I used to have key card access when I worked in D.C. i hated going there. You're just waiting for someone to sell you out. And like, not like the way that your shirt is worn or something like this. It's just full of people that are D.C. people. Somebody in that building came up and grabbed you by the arm and said, thank God you're here. That doesn't ring true to me. By the way. I had an FBI employee reach out to me today after seeing that interview you and said 0 out of 10 chance that that happened. Nobody reached out and grabbed him by the arm and said that they were excited to see him because that wasn't the attitude. And this person's been working there for over a decade in that building. So I don't know. I mean, I. I feel like Dan is telling like an apocryphal type story. Like people were excited to see us, but like, where those people were. If you're trying to tell me they were in the Hoover Building, that's really hard for me to believe. You're also talking about people that have a vested interest in lying to you, in deceiving you, in putting you down rabbit holes. I've had people call and tell a mutual friend of mine who's a whistleblower attorney, say things like they're letting them run out rope on things that do not matter and they're laughing about it and texting in the middle of like, their meetings and briefings. So the people that are. Are trying to keep the FBI director and the Deputy Director busy chasing their tails are sitting in the same meetings where the Deputy director and the. And the director are getting either advice and, or laying out their priorities and they're being mocked while it's happening in those rooms. I can't validate that, but that sounds true because I've been in the FBI and there's a lot of really nefarious actors. I've had people come and scream at me for doing things that made perfect sense, like asking why people took a knee for BLM and I was the bad guy for it. So in, in an office and an agency that's particularly in D.C. that's full of those types of people. I don't, I don't buy the ARM story. The second thing is, is like, what are these boxes of files that were not properly put into the process? First of all, what grasp do they have of what is or it is not the proper process? Are these things evidentiary? Are these things, you know, items that were waiting for a sh. And they just didn't get shredded because they got thrown in a. In a room because somebody is too lazy? Which is very probable. How did they get created? Are these made on a typewriter? Because they weren't digitized. Like, what are they? What kind of. Like what kind of documents does anybody have laying around? I worked in an old building when I was working for the Bureau out in, in Manassas. So I was on an off site and we had an old building. It had been there since like the 80s. And I remember going through some of the cabinets and finding old things. You know, you find like, like gyroscopic binoculars. I told my friend they were like 18 inches long and they were made for looking out of planes. They're really weird. So you find some stuff like that. I found a box of cassette tapes that were unopened. You know, I found like a Rolodex that had no. It had like a bunch of empty Rolodex spots in it, which people used to have. Like, you find old things in FBI buildings for sure, but are they of value? Are they specifically from Comey? And then like, if they're not digital, seriously, how were they generated? Where were they generated? Why are they just printed with. No, if they were printed off on any government computer and they are classified, they were. There's a record of them at another agency. So what are they talking about? Like, none of that makes any sense. I just. There's so many holes in that story.

[Natalie Morris]

It just seems like a weird place to go knew, you know, like some kind of plant as well. Like, how do you know the authenticity of it? And over the weekend, and I know that if there is an AI crisis, there will be a room full of people typing out our history to remember on analog tape. Right?

[Clayton Morris]

They're going to be.

[Kyle Seraphin]

I couldn't find a typewriter at the Bureau. They used to actually have what's called a steno pool. So there used to be people. The FBI agents would come in on cassette tapes. I have one of those old machines because they told me they didn't want it. And they put in, like, a regular cassette tape, like we remember from the 80s. And you hit record and you would record your interview notes or like your field notes from surveillance. And then you would give it to a lady. It was always a lady who would type it up on a typewriter and then give it back to you. And then you would go back and correct it for grammatical errors with a red pencil, and then you give it back to them. And then they'd retype it up like.

[Jared Stepman]

Like.

[Kyle Seraphin]

Is that what we're talking about? Because why. Why is there an analog system of anything in 2025? And Jim Comey came in. In the modern era. I typed all my P papers in high school and in college. Right. And so did Jim Comey. So what was he generating? Are they handwritten notes of stuff? And why are they declassified? Like what. What made them classified? All this stuff is just like. More questions than not.

[Clayton Morris]

Don't worry, Kyle, though. Ne next week, just trust us. We're going to have some big bombshells that we're going to release next week. How many weeks in a row have we now heard that, by the way? We've heard that every Ash Patel, we were told he did an interview like, yesterday again. Next week. Next week, Next week. Trust me, bro, it's.

[Kyle Seraphin]

It's Thursday. They said in the next one to two weeks, you're going to see a wave of transparency. Today is the second. The end of the second week. I have not been overwhelmed by the wave of transparency. I'm. I'm not encouraged by that. My buddies have this little inside joke on our group chat, and they're all former FBI guys and they heard that the new Bongino rule, which came from Dan's old producer, is that you have to wait six to eight months before you're going to get anything. That's the new Bonjino rules, to be patient. And it's going to take six to eight months. The joke that we have is that it's six. The number two. The number eight months. I don't know how many years 628 months is, but that's a lot of years. That's about how long it took for the JFK file. So we're probably in for a long haul.

[Clayton Morris]

75 years.

[Kyle Seraphin]

I hate being snarky, but like what?

[Clayton Morris]

Like what I think you can be.

[Natalie Morris]

All of us are willing to eat these words. We are willing to. If we. Yeah. None of Us here is we will all eat this happily if we do get this wave of transmission. We just want to answer donations.

[Clayton Morris]

Yeah, I want answers on the sex trafficking operation. I want to know who these people were, these high powered millionaires and billionaires that were paying for children to be shipped to their homes. Like, I want all of that. And I will gladly eat my words. I'll come back on here and I'll wear a dunce cap if I have to.

[Kyle Seraphin]

I'll wear one, too. I'll make my own. All my kids make them. I got little kids, they love making a hat for. For. For dunce purposes. Nothing would make us happier than being wrong about all this.

[Clayton Morris]

Right?

[Kyle Seraphin]

I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah. It just doesn't look like that's the way it's. Can I chime in?

[Natalie Morris]

Can I chime in real quick?

[Kyle Seraphin]

Because I, I just. I.

[Natalie Morris]

What I want to know.

[Kyle Seraphin]

So, like, they've got these boxes, these.

[Clayton Morris]

Like, smoking gun boxes he's mentioned.

[Kyle Seraphin]

But if they're that important, why is there anything in there that's actionable? Why aren't you doing anything?

[Clayton Morris]

Like, I don't care if you can't.

[Kyle Seraphin]

Release them to me, but use it. At least let me know you're using it. You know, you found new information.

[Clayton Morris]

Go do something with it.

[Kyle Seraphin]

Let me know that, you know, that's.

[Clayton Morris]

That's my hang up.

[Kyle Seraphin]

This is the worst situation this morning is I, I had to play a kit from a clip from Jim Comey, and he went on Wolf Blitzer show and he said, you know, the, the top marshal at the Supreme Court is the one that's charged with looking into what happened to the Dobbs decision leak. And the Secret Service is tasked with finding out the situation with the, with the cocaine at the White House. And the FBI never closes an investigation that's open particularly into something like a weapon of mass destruction, like a pipe bomb with the pipe bomber on January 6th or January 5th. So who was the odd. Like, who's the audience for that stuff? Stuff like who? I actually, I actually agreed with Jim Comey, which makes me want to puke. I don't like when you have to go like, Jim Comey is right. Like, those are actually true statements. What is the audience for. For saying, we're going to bring out these new cases and we're starting from scratch and all this other kind of stuff. You don't need to start from scratch. Just get new people on the same file. The file never closed, I guarantee it. So it's like, yeah, we got fresh eyes on It. Maybe that's the case. Who haven't been told to run away from whatever the truth was. But some of these things, they just don't ring true. If you've ever done investigative work, like, nobody's gonna just like, you don't take the cold case and throw the cold case file out and say, we're gonna start from. I'm gonna go to the bowling alley from 30 years ago where the shooting happened. Like, you just don't do that. You just take the crime scene photos and give it to new eyes.

[Natalie Morris]

Yeah.

[Clayton Morris]

Kyle Seraphin, great to see you as always. Thank you for this perspective. And, yeah, we'll welcome you back. We'll. We'll do a dunce cap Wednesday on the show. If all of this comes to pass, we'll gladly eat our own words and we'll gladly wear some new hats here on the show and celebrate this transparency, this overwhelming wave of transparency.

[Kyle Seraphin]

We need to do it with red, white, and blue, so we'll get color coded.

[Clayton Morris]

All right, I like that.

[Kyle Seraphin]

Yeah, Sounds good.

[Clayton Morris]

I'm not afraid. Kyle, great to see you. Have a great one.

[Kyle Seraphin]

All right, y' all have a great one.

[Natalie Morris]

I don't like to wear white, so.

[Clayton Morris]

Then you can wear the.

[Natalie Morris]

Yeah, I'll be one of the other colors. All right, Coming up, we're gonna tell you about whether or not you need to lose sleep over the bird flu vaccine because HHS Secretary Kennedy canceled it. He's canceled a billion dollar deal with Moderna. They're crying in their vaccine soup. But we're gonna talk about that also. We're gonna talk about the Democrats trying to reach men. Clayton, we're gonna. We're gonna ask if these cast of characters are really inspiring you and your. And your toxic masculinity.

[Clayton Morris]

Okay.

[Natalie Morris]

If we can finally break down that toxic masculinity you got going on which Democrats really hate everything about issue.

[Clayton Morris]

They do. They hate that I'm wearing my dad tax T shirt that my kids bought me.

[Natalie Morris]

Yeah. You know, from Buc EE's.

[Clayton Morris]

From Buc EE. They got this for me, like, because the dad, you know, dad always has to take a fry or, you know, try some of the ice cream, making sure it's. It's not poison.

[Jared Stepman]

That's right.

[Natalie Morris]

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[Clayton Morris]

I just want to thank the tens of thousands of you that are watching right now. And I know it's funny, it's actually like many of you have now pretty much moved over to Rumble because you're tired of the censorship on YouTube. So thanks to the tens of thousands of you that are watching us right now over on Rumble, we really appreciate that. I seem to, I see this movement really moving now away from YouTube in droves and it's kind of exciting. So anyway, thanks to all of you and thanks to those of you that remain with us on YouTube. Good to see all of you.

[Natalie Morris]

All right, well, the Trump administration canceled a contract for Moderna to build out a bird flu vaccine. This is something the Biden administration had awarded. They took 5,590 million dollars of your tax dollars and told Moderna, you go out there and build us a bird flu vaccine. Now, should we panic then that we might be unprepared for bird flu? You decide if you're going to panic or not. I'm going to give you some facts for you to decide on that. Number one, bird flu is currently not transmissible from human to human. The fact that they think that it may start to become so would tell us us that that is a result of manipulation of the virus, which is known as gain of function, which the Trump administration shut down a few weeks ago with this executive order. Now, last year, we spoke to Dr. Keller Kelly Victory. She is one of the few doctors who spoke out during the COVID pandemic with what turned out to be true about therapeutics and about the vaccine. She said that the development of a bird flu vaccine told us a few interesting things. Number one, we already know how to treat bird flu with therapeutics like hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine. Number two, she said that making a bird flu vaccine is dangerous and possibly not worth the risk. Here's how she put it.

[Kyle Seraphin]

They always use the excuse that it's to make us more prepared, to make us, you know, ready with an antidote or a vaccine. The reality is this is very dangerous research because not only can something get out of a lab by nefarious intent, meaning purposeful spreading of it, but simply by object incompetence or, you know, people makes mistakes and lab errors happen. They happen far more often than people want to believe. There are over 100 serious lab errors, lab leaks reported every single year. So the idea that someone is weaponizing or manipulating a virus in the laboratory to make it stronger, stronger, more transmissible, more capable of causing serious disease, more resistant to treatment is frankly, unconscionable in my mind.

[Natalie Morris]

All right, well, last month, April of 2025, 60 Minutes did this terrifying report about how bird flu is poised to be the next pandemic. We can't show 60 Minutes pieces because they always copyright strike our videos, but here is the transcript. This virology said that it's not just the number of human cases that's alarming, but that the virus is jumping to more mammals. Every new spillover, she says, gives the virus a chance to evolve from person to person. That it would just magically do that on its own, not by gain of function, but just. It would, even though we know right now it doesn't. Okay. She says she can't sleep at night and we need to be actively testing for bird flu all the time before it explodes into a pandemic before our very eyes. Bill Whitaker said that this would make Covid look like a walk in the park. Well, HHS is apparently not as concerned as 60 Minutes is, because they may surmise that without gain of function research, we wouldn't need a vaccine to vaccine vaccinate against the virus that was manipulated in the lab. It is like shampoo and conditioner. Do you know what I mean by that? Like conditioner solves the problem that shampoo creates.

[Clayton Morris]

It dries your hair out and then you. I've learned this because I'm married to a woman.

[Natalie Morris]

Right, exactly like that. So maybe if we just don't do the shampoo, you know, we won't need the conditioner.

[Clayton Morris]

Maybe that's why men. Yeah, we throw it all together as body wash, shampoo and conditioner all in one thing.

[Natalie Morris]

This analogy is off the rails. That's not. Okay, let's get back to bird flu.

[Clayton Morris]

I just brought that up because my 13 year old daughter, she's like, men are correct. Men will. Men will just get one thing of body wash. Toothpaste, toothpaste, shampoo and conditioner powder in one bottle. She's like, men are crazy.

[Natalie Morris]

Okay, again, if we are not doing gain of function, then maybe we don't need a vaccine for the hypothetically manipulated virus. Unless. You knew there was going to be an unless or a but a private company funds. Funds the vaccine because Trump's executive order only applies to government funded research. A private company decide to still go ahead and make a bird flu vaccine on a gamble. Like a company maybe owned by somebody with a name that rhymes with schmillmates. You get what I'm going here?

[Kyle Seraphin]

Yeah.

[Natalie Morris]

Yeah. So are we glad that our taxpayer dollars will not fund a bird flu vaccine? I am. You decide how you feel. Do we feel comfortable that nobody else will be mucking about with the bird flu? I don't, but that's. Again, I'm just giving you some facts. You decide how you feel. All right. I'm only going to allow you to decide how you feel for a little bit longer because I'm going to switch sides now and pretend that I'm a liberal and I want to tell you exactly how to feel. That is the new Democratic strategy is, Clayton, everything you feel as a masculine person is toxic. You need to stop it. And I'm going to tell you exactly how to feel. That's the new Democratic strategy we're going to talk about in a second. It's not learning from each other, but really talking down to you. I'm gonna have to practice because I don't do that in my normal life.

[Clayton Morris]

Right. This is gonna be a stretch.

[Natalie Morris]

I'll try to see where I can go.

[Clayton Morris]

Hope you don't hurt yourself with all the bending over backwards.

[Natalie Morris]

Immensely. I never talk down to my husband ever.

[Clayton Morris]

All right, we're gonna get there in a second. But I don't know if you saw what happened, of course, in Florida, because the declining US Dollar, I mean, we are seeing, we are seeing a declining US Dollar. We're seeing JD Vance coming out the Bitcoin conference saying, look, even my government, the United States of America, like, I really wouldn't put your faith and future into US Dollars or any government currency to support your family. Like, that's from J.D. vance, that's from Eric Trump, who was also there. Like, yeah, you should be investing in other things, not US Government dollars. And that's why gold and silver have been surging, because these government currencies are collapsing. The US dollar is no different. In just the past 12 months, gold has surged to more than $3,200 an ounce. Goldman Sachs sees it over $4,000 an ounce in short order. I just spoke with Gerald Celenty from the Trends Journal. He says he sees it over $4,000 an ounce. By the way, he was predicting the gold surge for the past two years and it's now come to pass. So what's behind this historic move? Global currencies are collapsing. Big money is in panic. That's why big banks, billionaires are buying gold in record amounts right now. As long as the dollar keeps falling. I want you to give our friends over at Lear Capital a call today. They can help you start investing in gold. And like someone said the other day in the chat room, they're like, they're like, I buy gold, I buy silver, but unless you hold it, you don't own it. And I like that philosophy. So actually buying gold and silver that you keep safe and secure in your home somewhere, or I don't know where you keep it somewhere, it's up to you where you want to keep it. Or you can store it off site in a 24 hour guarded facility. That's totally up to you. You do you. I know people that store it in their gun safe. Other people store it off site, but whatever makes you comfortable, you do that and Lear Capital can help you do that. They'll ship it right to your door. Gold coins, silver coins, silver bars, all of it. Or you can store it off site and they will facilitate that as well. But just call them, get on the phone with them. They're an American company. Human beings will actually answer the phone. [phone] is the phone number. Write that down, give them a call or just go to the website learedacted.com and they will help you get started investing in gold and silver. And they're just an education company first, so there's no pressure at all. Just have a conversation with them. You're not going to be pressured into buying anything that you don't want. But if you've got a few thousand dollars sitting in US Dollars in your savings account, now is the time to seriously think about converting that over to precious metals to protect yourself, just like J.D. vance was talking about. I mean, you can, you can do whatever you want with it. You can convert it over and buy Bitcoin, you can buy real estate. But I just would not have my family's future sitting in US Dollars or any government currency for that matter. And that's my personal view. But you do you again, call Lear Capital, 1-800-613-3557 or go to learredacted.com well.

[Natalie Morris]

The Democrats are really struggling to understand the American mail, so much so that they need to spend $20 million for this project, project reported by the New York Times called Sam Short for speaking with the American men a $20 million because they just don't understand half of the population. This is yet another reason not to donate to the Democrats unless you really don't understand men, which I guess maybe you could learn something. Now, this morning there are reports that this is one of the people that they have chosen to lead this. This is 22 year old old queer plus sized Olivia Juliana. She confirmed this in Responses on X and then sort of reposted this picture of Biden to tell us exactly what she stands for, which is that a.

[Clayton Morris]

Weekend at Bernie's movie prop? Yeah, that's what she stands for.

[Natalie Morris]

Serious question, though, not meant to condescend. What interests overlap between a man whose main interest is to protect and provide for their family and that person? And don't tell me, abortion. No man is hoping their daughter has an abortion one day or needs one. Here she is talking about white men. Not to them. Now, now, notice her demeanor in that I have nothing to learn from white men whatsoever. Although she presumably lives in a house probably made by men and drives a car probably. But no, she has everything to teach them. What? Well, I also, I also think it's.

[Clayton Morris]

Just so abundantly clear that the people who say these things don't actually spend time talking to young men. You know this because we know each other in real life.

[Jared Stepman]

But I spent a lot of time.

[Clayton Morris]

On college campuses and I spent a.

[Kyle Seraphin]

Lot of time with young men.

[Clayton Morris]

I love young men. I, I, I love frat guys. And in that I realized, like even the ones that identify as Conservative are almost always pro choice. They're almost always pro gay marriage. You'd be surprised at the number of them who support a Black Lives Matter. And so I feel like people just kind of lump them into this box when the truth is, again, a lot of them are with us on the issues. They're just not part of our coalition because they feel like they're not welcomed in it.

[Natalie Morris]

So she can really bring these people in by condescending them. I believe it has become so comical that the Democrats don't understand the American male, that the Babylon Bee hit this one out of the park. That Dem's plan to win back men is having a gay guy grow a beard. Why can't they see this clearly? What is so hard to understand about men? Kenny Webster is a talk radio personality and a producer from Texas. His X feed is Black Pill all the Way. And he joins us to react because when there are just no words, words. We gotta talk it out now you're a man. Is this doing it for you?

[Clayton Morris]

Guilty.

[Jared Stepman]

By the way, before we start, I just want to plug my 5 in one real quick. It's a shampoo, a conditioner, a body wash, a toothpaste, and the bird flu vaccine. You could get it on my website. And I don't think. I don't think Olivia and Giuliani could take it because, you know, they say that these things cause blood clots. We won't even go there with it. I love that you guys used her, of all people, as an example. Of course, the Democrats did, too. In Houston, right now, at my gym, standing with men in the background who are, not coincidentally, used to be Democrats. They watched the Joe Rogan podcast. The Democrats are having this discussion right now about how they can find the liberal version of Joe Rogan. And, you know, I'm not the first person your audience has heard say this, but it needs to be said. They already had a liberal Joe Rogan. It was Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan was the liberal Joe Rogan. He was a block of the Democrat. And at some point, the Democrats moved too far to the left and they lost Tulsi Gabbard and RFK Jr. And Elon Musk. And ideologically, none of those people were really the same. They were just somewhere left of center, and now they're right of center. And so the Democrats are going to spend $20 million to try to figure out what exactly it is that American men want. We don't want to be called a Nazi. We don't want to be called hanging out in A gym is toxic. Or that consuming testosterone is a product of what's destroying our culture, that protein shakes are somehow destroying America. And weirdly enough, in the liberal media and academia, these are all things that they've told us over the past few years and with very predictable results. Men don't like being told that they're terrible. Do you know what I mean?

[Clayton Morris]

Right. Well, we've seen this in young men. I mean, I see this in my 14 year old son with his group of friends. They have no tolerance at all for WOKE bullshit. They can't stand it. And they all in their friends group, their WhatsApp group. And these are young men who maybe 20, 30 years ago would have been like Bill Clinton Democrats. Right. But now they've completely moved away from it. Is she right though, when she says these people are just like us? That they would have supported Black Lives Matter? They support gay marriage, they support all of these things. When she said that, I didn't buy any of that. Did you?

[Natalie Morris]

No.

[Jared Stepman]

Look, Olivia, Giuliania is not being used to recruit men, despite what you may have heard. That's just not the case. That's not what she's being asked to do.

[Natalie Morris]

Oh, you cut out there for a second. One of the things that I constantly think about is that this is religious talk. Because a lot of times when you think of men in this way, you think, well, they're smart enough to understand about abortion rights and Black Lives Matter and things like that, but it's their toxic masculinity that gets in the way of this. And so this idea is toxic masculinity is just like Satan. It's, you know, the one thing that religious zealots can throw to, to explain anything. And when I, you know, swallowed this bullshit, it was always, well, you know, these male shootings, these, these mass shootings, it's just toxic masculinity or any kind of, you know, crime statistics. It's toxic masculinity. That's literally the answer for everything. And so in which case, how can they ever understand masculinity if it's always toxic?

[Clayton Morris]

Yeah, I mean, it's ridiculous. And they think, and this is how you're gonna spend, you need $20 million to like to focus group this stuff. And you need to figure out that these people don't want wars, that these people don't wanna be talked down to, that these people don't wanna have your agenda forced down their throat on a regular basis. You've invaded everything that these young men like, like from gaming to sports You've tried to ruin all of it for them. You're gonna have to push transgender characters when they want to play dragon the veil guard. Now you have to be told you have to choose these characters that don't have a penis or. I mean, it's just ridiculous the kind of move that they're making on this.

[Natalie Morris]

And there's a lot of narcissism that goes into speaking to people this way, because when I was a graduate school student in very liberal university, and I really did think that there was a white male privilege that white men themselves could. Couldn't see. Oh, it. I'll just finish this point and then we'll ask him again. This idea.

[Jared Stepman]

He's back.

[Clayton Morris]

He's back. Okay, if you want to take him or.

[Natalie Morris]

No, I don't actually.

[Clayton Morris]

You don't want to? Okay.

[Natalie Morris]

No, I would like to, but I don't hear him.

[Jared Stepman]

Oh, hey, everybody. Hi. Hello.

[Clayton Morris]

Okay.

[Jared Stepman]

Hey. Sorry.

[Clayton Morris]

Yeah, we're back. Good to see you.

[Jared Stepman]

One of the fun things about live broadcasting is you never know what's going to happen. So sorry, I got disconnected, but I'm back. Sorry about that, everybody.

[Natalie Morris]

Oh, it happens to us all the time. So the point that I was making. Are we able to take his camera.

[Jared Stepman]

Tech one too?

[Kyle Seraphin]

You guys don't hear me?

[Clayton Morris]

Yeah, we're working on it.

[Kyle Seraphin]

So just keep going.

[Clayton Morris]

Keep going.

[Jared Stepman]

In an audio based medium. You know, I'll make this point. This is what I was about to say. Liberals have come up with all these words to explain why we're terrible, right? Like toxic masculinity. What does that even mean? It just means you're a guy and you're being a guy. Mansplaining something is a word they invented to explain when we're explaining a things. I'm mansplaining right now. How is this any different than a woman explaining things? Heteronormative is a word. They came up to explain that you're a straight, normal person. Cisgendered means you've never snipped your penis off or gotten involved in hormone therapy. They invented all these words to push us away. And because they built up these barriers, they're surprised that we left them. You know what I mean?

[Natalie Morris]

Yeah.

[Clayton Morris]

Yes, exactly.

[Natalie Morris]

Right, exactly. And I think that the lack of humility really strikes me because. Because when I subscribe to this sort of, you know, woke academia where you can fetishize these academic words and think that you know better than a white male who cannot recognize his own privilege, and then you go into a Pep Boys or You go somewhere in a contractor who actually knows how to fix things in the world, and you think, well, that's useful that you did that to me for me. But you don't understand your own white privilege. And I understand it's a very condescending way to go through the world. And if you. Unless you humble yourself and realize these white men must. Maybe they know something that I don't because I don't build houses or fix cars. How do they live in a world based on the skills of these people but really feel like they have nothing to teach us men?

[Jared Stepman]

It's remarkable, right? Isn't it kind of amazing, too, the word chivalry. Chivalry is a word we use to describe how we expect men to behave in a public state setting. There's no female equivalent of that word. What's the female equivalent of the world? Chivalry? There isn't one. Men are still expected to adhere to the same gender and sex roles we had in the late 1800s. Women can be a girl boss. Men are still supposed to pay for the date, but we're supposed to accept the fact that women own more homes now. They go to college at a higher rate. But it's not enough to just stop vilifying men, because we know Democrats can't do that. The other thing they probably need to do is actually acknowledge our problems. Men are more likely to go to prison. Men are more likely to get murdered. Men. There are so many problems that specifically and uniquely affect men. And that brings us back to the whole root of all this. They argue. What are men doing for women?

[Kyle Seraphin]

Literally everything.

[Jared Stepman]

Men would live in a cardboard box and play video games all day on a cot if it wasn't for women. All of this is for you women. Air conditioning, airplanes, private jets, limousines. We did all that for you. Is that not good?

[Natalie Morris]

That's true.

[Clayton Morris]

That's true. And we. Yeah, we wouldn't be able to organize our lives without your help with spreadsheets that you keep. All of that. Like, we'll go out and make the money. We'll go out and build the bridges. We'll go out and build the houses. Just keep, you know, just keep it organized for us. It's not so bad, right?

[Natalie Morris]

How about a little stinking appreciation for whatever it is you. Is around you that was built by men? Maybe that's where you start.

[Jared Stepman]

All we did was build the modern world, and then we gave it to you. We'll hold the door and hold the umbrella. We're happy to do all of that. And we'll lift weights, generally speaking. And this is the most misogynistic thing I'm going to say all women have to do to be attractive is not overeach.

[Kyle Seraphin]

Right? That's really it.

[Jared Stepman]

Look at what these men are doing behind me right now, lifting weights. That guy's going to lift 500 pounds in a few minutes and nobody cares. And he did it all to impress women. He hides his emotions and his muscles. That's what he does, people.

[Clayton Morris]

That is true. All you need to do is just not overeat to be attractive.

[Natalie Morris]

Isn't that crazy? Well, and also be pedantic and condescending. That's probably pretty bad, too.

[Clayton Morris]

No one wants to be henpecked either. Would you add that into the mix, Kenny? I mean, because no one wants to be picked on. Saw a meme the other day that says, what was the meme you showed me the other night where it said, hey, I'm no marriage counselor, but, honey, have you tried just making him a steak and being quiet?

[Jared Stepman]

Men are very simple to entertain. Obviously, sexual gratification is true. We don't need much.

[Eric Burleson]

Right.

[Jared Stepman]

But at the same time, men haven't invented all of these words to put women down. And I think at the end of the day, if the Democrats are gonna spend $20 million to try to go out and figure out how to win men back. And this is the thing that I would never want them to hear me say out loud because I don't wanna give them free advice.

[Kyle Seraphin]

Really.

[Jared Stepman]

Just go back to what you were doing 15 or 20 years ago, which, incidentally, is now what Trump is doing. And they're calling him a Nazi for doing that. If he's a Nazi today, what were you guys 15 years ago?

[Clayton Morris]

Exactly. That's why I said that these young men many years ago would have been probably supporting Bill Clinton, Al Gore, remember Al Gore went on David Letterman's show with goggles on and a hammer and an ashtray, and he said, the government waste we spend. There was hundreds of millions of dollars to see how many shards will break off of this ashtray when I hit it with a hammer. Government. So he was basically doing Doge before Trump was doing Doge. And we were. You know, people would have supported that back in the day. Keep us out of wars, cut government spending, balance the budget. They lost their way. They lost their way.

[Jared Stepman]

Yeah. I mean, RFK Jr. Was never supposed to be a Democrat. Right? Tulsi Gabbard. This is a woman who talked about how toxic the intelligence agencies are in the 20th century Democrats were obsessed with telling you the FBI was horrible. Now they worship the FBI, the CIA. These are now all pawns of the Democrat Party. You know, Elon Musk is another great example. Tech Bros. 20 years ago were some of the most liberal people in existence. What is it that pushed them to the right? Probably repeatedly telling them, you're a Nazi, you're evil, you have sexual urges, that makes you a bad person. Vote for us, you Nazi. There's actually a book about this. It's about borderline personality disorder. And the book called I hate you. Don't leave me. I think the Democrat Party actually has borderline personality disorder. They just don't realize it.

[Natalie Morris]

So. But some of these issues, obviously, most Republicans don't care if gay people get married. They want the best for everybody. A lot. Most Republicans, they do want the same thing for black people as they want for any color of family, which is safe job, jobs, upward mobility. Right. Education for their kids. Is there any way that the Democrats could communicate that to you two dudes who have been constantly condescended by them? Is there anything the Democrats could do, any dude they could pull out that would inspire John Wick? Like, what is it? Tell me. I'm taking that 20 million.

[Jared Stepman]

I mean, imagine how much time they've spent pushing us away. That's how much time it's going to take bringing us back, right? I know a lot of men in the city that were Democrats their whole life. I live in a very liberal city, a liberal enclave called Houston, Texas, and I come from a city called Chicago. You might have noticed Olivia Giuliani, the woman in that clip you played from Houston, was wearing the Chicago flag on her shirt, which is also the home of Rahm Emanuel. And I can remember when we thought Rahm Emanuel was too far to the left. Now people like Rahm Emanuel and James Carver are out trying to tell the Democrats, rear it back in, come back to where we were, back to the middle again, which really honestly is probably where Trump is at. He's not that far to the right. Democrats simply cannot do it. They want AOC to be their leader. They want Bernie Sanders to be their leader. They're on a fight, the oligarchy tour, flying around the country on a private jet telling us that carbon fuel is destroying the planet. It's too much hypocrisy. It's too much double speak. And I think that they see that, but they don't want to acknowledge it. They're looking at the world through Democrat colored glasses and it's causing Things to be very skewed for them.

[Clayton Morris]

Kenny Webster, thanks for taking out some time in the gym where men like to hang out.

[Jared Stepman]

I was gonna be here anyway when they told me that, when they told me what the topic was, I thought, that's perfect. I'm already gonna be at my gym. You guys can hear me on dozens of radio stations all over the country. Find me on X. I'd love to connect with somebody. I love the jacket. I love what you guys do and I'm a big fan of both. I love that you two do a TV show together. I don't know how you guys do it. If me and my ex wife did a show together, we'd just be arguing about how to load a dishwasher.

[Clayton Morris]

Yeah. People often ask us, how do we pull this off? I don't know, to be honest with you. Kenny, great to see you. Thank you so much, man. Great to have you on the show. And we'll let you get back to it. We'll hope you have you. We'll have you back on real soon, America. Thank you, Kenny. Great to see you.

[Natalie Morris]

If our techs get hacked by the NSA or something, they'll realize how much we just argue in commercial people breaks, so. But mostly we do okay, right?

[Clayton Morris]

Yeah, it's just like fun stuff. That's what I've often said. Like, if somebody ever, like, you know, I don't worry about people like taking my phone or something like that.

[Kyle Seraphin]

It's like all you're really going to.

[Clayton Morris]

Do is find out how just genuinely boring. I typically am.

[Natalie Morris]

Like, that's.

[Clayton Morris]

Good luck with that. I hope you enjoy your time. You'll also learn for me, like, how many family chats I just ignore. He does this because, you know, she'll be going back and forth with the whole family about just this random little stuff. And I'm just like, you know, just hang. I lurk in the background, background. I'll jump in occasionally and give a thumbs up or a heart.

[Natalie Morris]

Yeah.

[Clayton Morris]

On something.

[Natalie Morris]

It's just do run the carpool. When I tell you too, that's when you need to know.

[Clayton Morris]

Pick up our daughter at this. At this location. I don't need to hold. I don't need to hear the whole preamble.

[Natalie Morris]

But that's why this happened the other day when our middle daughter came down, she's like, where's daddy? He's supposed to take me to dance. And I called you, I was like, where are you? And he goes, I'm at the dance studio. He heard, pick her up from Dance. So he left without.

[Clayton Morris]

So I was there.

[Natalie Morris]

The details matter.

[Clayton Morris]

I was like, is she here? I don't see her. I don't see her anywhere. Yeah, I'm here waiting for her. Oh, you're supposed to take her to dance. Oh, I got it. Okay.

[Natalie Morris]

Oops.

[Clayton Morris]

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[Natalie Morris]

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[Clayton Morris]

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