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David Icke
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David Icke
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Hot Honey sauce is here. All right, welcome in, everyone, on this Wednesday. So glad to have you here on redacted because we are going to dive deeply today into the pedophilia satanic ring. You know, most people saying, oh, Epstein is. He was like the tip of the spear. He led the international pedophile sex ring. But it goes much, much deeper than that. And we're thrilled today to have special guest David Icke is going to be joining us here in moments to deep dive all of this. There's no one, there's no one that we would rather talk to on this subject.
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Host 1
Right, right, exactly. And if you've noticed the conversation online, it's, oh, my God, this guy and this guy. And what about this? Like, it's all connected. It's just one piece of it. We have to look at it from a little bit higher. And that's a challenge when you're so in the minutiae of it. So we're going to try and go higher, see it from a higher perspective and hold on to your butts. As I like to say.
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Well, the Epstein files release on Friday and the press suddenly pretends that they're learning about these things for the very first time. Like the fact that Robert Maxwell was a Mossad asset, that he was murdered on a boat. This is the Epstein files document dump. Of course this is in there. And people are saying new information is suddenly released about this new information. But of course the media is lying, running cover once again, all of this information was written about years ago by David Icke in his books, the satanic rituals, the pedophilia network, the CIA, Mossad connections, the international network. And now we get to witness all of these so called MAGA influencers. You know, those same guys that had the binders that then suddenly went silent after these documents got dumped. Now they're running cover for Trump, of course, forgetting his deep associations with Epstein, of course. And then Trump comes out and says, yeah, I never really was really that friendly with him. Of course the videos tell a different tale. Of course the emails tell a different tale. The eyewitness testimony tells a completely different tale. The partying, of course, all of it. And then of course, one of the mainstream media is running cover in a larger way, saying that all of this pedophilia and Satanism is just something from a bygone era. Of course. And David Icke posted this on his X account. The most ridiculous thing I've heard about Epstein is that he ran the world's biggest pedophilia pedophilia ring. Not even close. He ran a Mossad CIA blackmail operation that is just part of a vast global pedophilia satanic network that goes back into the ancient world and on which the very existence of the global cult is founded to this day. And he goes on, of course, about all of that. So this idea, as the New York Times points out, that the Epstein emails reveal a bygone Era.
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Host 1
It was just one of those things, a one off.
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Thank God it's all over now. That was like, he's gone.
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Host 1
Great Gatsby, you know, it's gone now.
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David Icke, the great David Icke joins us now to talk all about this, his research and this vast sort of Satan pedophilia ring and how deep this actually goes. David, welcome back to the show. Great to see you.
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David Icke
Thank you very much. Yeah. Have you noticed how whenever a scandal breaks, the official response is oh yeah, but new checks and balances have been put into place and it can't happen again. It's always the same story, but actually it is happening again because it's a fundamental part of how human society is controlled.
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Well, can you explain that? Because I think if someone is averse to conspiracy theories, they think, well, that was just a one off. That was awful. I can't believe it happened. It can't still be happening. We, what is it? How do we know it's still happening? And why would they do this? I guess a big question is the pedophilia ring is just one part of other heart of darkness. Can you paint that picture for us?
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David Icke
Yeah. You see, to understand the resistance to what is going on is to understand that from cradle to grave people are programmed to believe in a version of normal. Now this normal may change what they call the Overton Window, the limits of public debate and considered real world, it may change. So we have a new normal, but there's always a normal. And that normal never encompasses the extremes of what's actually happening. And you know, one of the greatest forms of mind control and perceptual limitation is to control the public's perception of the possible. There was a, a great quote from a guy called Arthur Schopenhauer, a German philosopher, who said words to the effect of every man. It's not actually every man, but it's, it's getting there. Every man basically views the world, the limits of the world, by the limits of his own field of vision. And that's what normality does. It gives people a certain view of what is happening. And therefore, when people come along and expose what is really happening beyond the normal, beyond the walls of normal, then they're immediately mad, bad, crazy, or all of them. And so to grasp what this is all about and how it all fits together, Demanding from the start is a blank sheet of paper in terms of preconceived idea, so that we let the information be our guide rather than preconceived idea, which is from the Normal. And we have the normal ingrained in us through the education system which this global cult that I talk about and this pedophilia and satanism is all this cult is founded on, that it created the so called public education system. It created and owns the sources of communication, the great majority of them anyway. In other words, it controls the sources from which people form their perceptions to grasp a perception of normality. So first of all, that has to go, ladies and gentlemen, the preconceived normal has to go. Just let the information be your guide. And so to put this into perspective and to explain why satanism and pedophilia are fundamentally connected, we have to start to realize that this global network, which I call the global cult, which is the generator and the orchestrator of this global pedophilia and satanic network, it is not the origin of, of human control. It is the player out of that control, it is the servants of that control. The origin of it is not in this dimension of reality, which is merely a band of frequency. That's all it is. If people realize, as I said in our other chat, if people realized just how little they can actually see, they'd be staggered. We can only see something called visible light, which is so tiny it's ridiculous. The rest of infinity exists in the set in the same space, but we can't access it visually because this biological computer, as I call it, will only decode, literally decode a certain tiny band of frequency. So in the same space that we are experiencing are other dimensions of reality. And there's one very close to this one, but outside of visible light, called the astral frequency. And that's where the, the origin of human control is coming from. Now to again grasp why we have to realize that to this non human force, this astral dimension force, humans are a source of energetic sustenance. Every time we think, every time we feel emotion, we are generating a frequency. This is well known in mainstream science. We're generating energy. We can't see it because it's outside of visible light, but we can feel it. You know, we talk about good vibes, bad vibes, all horrible vibes. That's, that's because we're feeling the frequencies, but we're not seeing the frequencies. They're outside visible light. And those frequencies are actually an astral phenomenon. Every time we feel emotion and we think in various ways, we are putting this energy, this frequency, into that astral dimension. Now, by their very nature, and demonic is a very good term, by the very nature, this demonic force in this astral dimension is in a low frequency state. It's in a higher frequency state than we are because this, this human realm is so unbelievably, energetically dense. It's unbelievable. But they are in themselves a low vibrational state. And therefore if they're going to absorb human energy, it has to be within the band of frequency that they're operating on. And it turns out that that frequency band relates to what you might call low vibrational human emotion and thought. In other words, the emotions of fear, of anxiety, of depression, of hatred, of regret, of resentment, of conflict, of war, all these things generate or trigger people to generate these low vibrational frequencies. So first of all, There is no benefit whatsoever in this astral force of entities which are talked about throughout human history to have a human world that is based on love, on joy, on peace, on harmony, on balance, none, because that's not the frequency they absorb. So when you had the Morpheus character in the Matrix hold that battery up and say the, the Matrix which is this is a simulated reality created by this astral force, held up the battery and said the, the Matrix is a computer generated dream world built to turn humans into one of these. It was a very profound truth in an apparently fictional movie. We are an energy source, but only if we're in a low vibrational state. So you have this, this astral force, these entities, this demonic entities, and they have in service to them, within the human reality, this global cult of secret societies which are fiercely compartmentalized. So most people in them haven't got a clue what's really going on. It's the inner core I'm talking about. And the role of this global cult is to generate events and happenings in the human realm that are going to trigger in human response to these events, that low vibrational energy. So if you look at the, the world, it's a generator of that low vibrational energy all the time in many and various ways, whether it's this background anxiety that people feel and worry about the future, or whether it's an outright war which generates phenomenal amounts obviously of this energy. This is a, a loose farm as I call it in the, in the, my book the, the Roadmap, it's a loose farm. And loose is the word that's, that's given to this low vibrational energy. So if we then look at the connection between pedophilia and Satanism and why it's so prevalent and why this global cult has literally a global network of a satanic pedophile Network of which the Epstein network was a, a part, but only a part. It's to do with energy and it's to do with this low vibrational energy we call louche. So and this is what I put together over the years in the books, over now 36 years of full time research. So as I mentioned in the chat we had, the longer chat we had, I started to realize when I was putting this global cult together in the early 1990s and how it worked and how the people in positions of power like presidents and prime ministers were just here today, gone tomorrow. Assets of this cult, many of which didn't even know the cult existed. But the cult itself is always there. And I started to realize that major players in the public arena that were playing the role of advancing the gender of this cult to more and more centralization of power and human control. They were involved in satanic ritual. And you go what? Why? And then you realize that in the ancient world they were doing openly human sacrifice rituals to the gods. The gods? Who are the gods? Who are the gods? Through the ages that these rituals are done to, still done to these non human entities in the astral dimension that interpenetrate this one. So you had these ancients doing these rituals and they were sacrificing people. And often you hear the term about sacrificing young virgins to the gods. Well, young virgins is code for children, kids. And there's a reason for that that I'll come to. And so what is happening in a ritual, whether it's the ancient openly done ritual or the secretly done now as humanity reached a point of, of maturity where it weren't having their open rituals anymore, whether whatever time you're talking about, the question is what is the gift to the gods that these rituals, these sacrifice rituals are doing? And so you then realize that it comes down to this loosh, this low vibrational energy because the rituals, and I've been given chapter and verse by this, by people who've taken part over the years, some against their will, some who've seen the light eventually that these rituals are designed specifically to generate maximum terror in the victim. And what terror does, or what terror is, is a phenomenally powerful low vibrational energy which these entities feed off. And as I said in our chat, you know, you can look at someone and you can see from their facial expression and their body language that they're in an emotional state, terror, whatever, but you can't see the energy that they're giving off as a result of that very powerful Energy of terror, because it's going into this astral dimension and they're feeding off it. These entities are feeding off it. That's the gift to the gods. And then the, the, the Satanists within the human dimension who are orchestrating the ritual. They then drink the blood of the victim. And it's by that time laced with a very powerful adrenaline generated by the, the energy of terror. And it gives them a high, it gives them, it's like a drug, it's like an elixir to them. And, and, and then you look at pedophilia, that's adrenochrome, by the way, that people talk about. And then you look at pedophilia. Now I've been given chapter and verse on this over the years. I've talked not only to people in the western world about this, I've talked to shamans in different parts of the world as well that carry the ancient knowledge. And there's this tremendous synchronicity of, of explanation between the two. First of all, there's a particular energy that these entities want and it's the energy of, of children before puberty. We look at puberty as a hormonal chemical change. But actually what's happening is there's a vibrational change, there's a frequency change in the energy field of the children and that expresses itself in the so called physical world as a chemical hormonal change. At puberty. They want that energy overwhelmingly before that happens, if possible. And so pedophiles are basically possessed people. You know, throughout human history there has been this, this constant story, this theme of possession. Well, what is that? We have a physical body, what we call it physical. It's not really. But that's another story. We have this, this physical body because it allows us to interact with this frequency we call human. As I said in the other chat, I can pick up those spectacles because I have a vehicle that is resonating within the same frequency band as the spectacles. Therefore I can interact with them. My consciousness, which is a field of energy awareness that overrides the body that is vibrating so fast. I couldn't possibly interact with this dimension and pick those glasses up. So we have this vehicle, but that electromagnetic field that you might call the mind or consciousness can be, there can be a connection made between these astral entities and that human electromagnetic field. Some people call it the auric field, whatever. And through that electromagnetic connection, then the perceptions of the possessed person can, can be controlled. And so this whole idea of possession is to connect with the electromagnetic field of, of human and take control of perceptions and behavior. And you know, when you see these, these satanic, these satanic themes where literally someone's face changes into some grotesque entity, right.
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Host 2
People report seeing the facial shape shifting.
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David Icke
I've seen it, I've seen it, I've seen it. It's real. Now the question is, what's going on? It can be very simply explained. Most possession, it like connects powerfully with the person when it wants to impose itself on, on the behavior of that person. Otherwise it's one step back. And this is why you can, you can talk to people and they say, oh, I met so and so. Who I know is a Satanist. Always a nice chap. He's very, very pleasant. Yeah, okay. But you want, you want to see him when, when the entity comes in. So you've got this like schizophrenia between, in personality. Between when the entity imposes itself and when it takes a step back. And because it doesn't really have to control behavior in the intermediate time. And so you can have possession where the entity is influencing the perception through the subconscious overwhelmingly of the target person. But it doesn't reach the point where this facial change takes place. However, what the entity is, is a field of information that relates to how that entity looks and what that entity is. And what happens when the possession gets really, really powerful and intense is that so much of the entities information is poured into the possessed entities field, that the possessed entities field starts to reflect the entity. At which point the facial expressions and the facial look of the possessed person starts to change in line with the infused information from the entity. Thus you have this exorcist type look of people and you think, oh my God, their face is changing. I've seen it. It's real. And so the pedophile is basically a possessed entity. And the charge, the urge to have sex with children is, is infused by these entities. It might be that.
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Host 2
Do they have agency? David, do they have agent?
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David Icke
Say again?
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Host 2
Sorry, I was gonna say do they have agency? I mean, because what I'm trying to understand too, at these parties, these events, these Epstein parties and events. And you saw the, you know the event that was happening in Mexico where the woman runs out. We've shown the video where she says, you know, they're eating humans, they're eating humans. And then she disappears afterwards. Do they have agency? Like if they're a part of this process, are they giving, can they get out of it? Yeah. Are they giving themselves willingly to it? What sort of mechanism is happening there?
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Host 1
Well, If I may follow up on that. Because we see how these low vibrational vessels are finding each other. Looking out in email, who's game to do this bad stuff? But we do have an archetype, we have Norm Finkelstein who tells them all to F off. So it seems like they put out their feelers and this vibration comes together. If there's always already a weakness, what do you think of that?
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Host 2
But Elon Musk was trying to get to the island. He's like, can I, can I come please? Can I get there? I want to go there, I want to go to the island. I want to go to the island.
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David Icke
All, all of the above, basically. But if you think about it, these are low vibrational entities. And if you're in a high vibrational state, if you're full of love and joy and peace and harmony, they can't attach to you because your frequency is incompatible with theirs. Your perceptual frequency, what we call, the, what I call the electromagnetic field, it's incompatible. What they want is to pull you in to low vibrational states. So the, the, the, the, the, for instance, the, the, the real abuse of alcohol, the, the abuse of drugs, all these bring you into a low vibrational state which allow possession. You look at these apparently bizarre secret society rituals. But what, what, what these rituals are and, and I've talked to some Freemason. So what's all this ritual about that you do? Oh, just lost in the, in the midst of antiquity. Well, actually it's not, but you think it is because you know, most Freemasons haven't got a clue what's actually going on. But these rituals are locking you in, they are tuning you in to the, to these, these entities, this, this, this non human force. And then what happens? And my God, just look around the world that people who are running this culture, they start to reflect the mentality of these entities. They basically become vehicles for them. So in terms of pedophilia, and this has been, I've been given chapter and verse by this over the years in different parts of the world when the child is being abused, the overseeing entity that's possessing the pedophile is drawing the energy of the child off and, and, and absorbing it. I remember talking to a shaman in South Africa who was, and, and others have said the same in different parts of the world that some of these, these children, these abused children, their energy is basically so absorbed, so drawn off that only just enough to survive is remaining. You know, there was a Central American shaman who talked about this Wonderful energetic field that children have and how these entities draw it off. And so the pedophile is the vehicle, it's the, it's the conduit to, for this energy to be drawn off, which is, which is how pedophilia and satanism connect. It's all to do with these entities feeding off of human energy. And so you've got to go to this level, this astral level, because at that level everything connects at this level within the human world. Yes, these cultists can fight among themselves, yes, they can battle to get up the top of the greasy pole instead of their mate who's also part of it. All this goes on. But if you go to that level, that astral level where it's being orchestrated from, suddenly the left in politics and the right in politics become the same right. Islam and other religions and Hinduism and all these different religions, they all become the same religion. Because what do religions do, what does political ideology do? If both are without question and if they're rigid in their belief and immovable, they create a belief system that limits where people will go. They create their own normal within the societal normal. So you have a Islamic normal, you have a Christian normal, you have a Hindu normal, you have a Jewish normal. And these normals are smaller than even the, the Overton window of the, of society in general. What you're doing is you're limiting their perception. You're holding them in basically boxes of the mind. And so they're all serving the, these, they're all serving the goal and the agenda of these entities. And once you have these rigid belief systems, different ones, political, religious, whatever, cultural, you've got the perfect environment, play them off against each other. So, so your target population is fighting among its itself which divides and rules. So they don't focus on you, it's controlling it all. And also what are they producing in their fight and their, their cussing and their, their conflict with each other loosh low vibrational emotional and mental energies. So to understand what's going on, you have to go here. You have to go here. And most people won't go there because they don't think there is a there. And that's what perceptual control has done.
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Host 2
So when you see the uniparty, when you see these boxes as you describe it, even being narrower than the Overton window, and you see this battling back and forth and giving cover for trees Trump and giving cover for Elon Musk or whatever it is, it's all just operating within this sort of narrow band and it's so much bigger than all.
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David Icke
Of these people, all of it. And the other thing about the Epstein files, the drop that's just happened and the previous one come to that, is that it shows how this global cult works in terms of connecting the. In the public arena, apparently unconnected. So you have documents, emails, whatever, that connect Epstein to Putin, but he's also connected to the CIA. He's also connected to Mossad, he's also connected to Trump. He's also connected to endless other world leaders and former world leaders. And he's connected into the AI oligarchy, which is massively relevant to current events. And how many people would realize that Epstein was manipulating on that level and interacting at that level? But Epstein was just one guy. This is how it all works. They're all connected in the end. You know, there's a Jewish area of Judaism called Shabad Lubovitch, and that connects into Putin, connects into Zelensky, connects into Trump, connects into Lutnik, connects into Jared Kushner, connects into Netanyahu. There are these networks everywhere. Not just Jewish ones. No, not at all. Not just Jewish ones. But they seem to be very prominent at the moment, to say the least. And back through history. But this cult is encompassing all these different belief systems, just that some are more dominant than others. But there are these networks which connect people that, in the public arena, are unconnected. So you look in Britain, you look at Keir Starmer, the Prime Minister. Well, his Svengali is Tony Blair, and Tony Blair is owned by Larry Ellison, who funds him, who's massively active in AI and the media in the United States and is the biggest private funder of the IDF in Israel, and who was appointed US Ambassador by Starmer, a guy who was a very close associate of Epstein and has just now resigned from the British Labour Party of Keir Starmer because of his Epstein connections. And this same guy was the Svengali again of Tony Blair, who was the spin doctor that brought him to power as prime minister. So you see these connections everywhere because there is the public face, everything's unconnected, everything's random. And then there's the real level where everything is connected and they're all protected.
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Host 2
Right? I mean, yeah.
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Host 1
So if I may just see if I'm understanding the picture you're painting is that these evil demonic forces that are driving this human behavior is a part of a spectrum. So as we see, we're like, why does Epstein love war so much? Why does he want to provide weapons to a murderous government? Why does he want to have these demonic pedophilia rituals. It's all the same because war, you can feed on souls in the same way as pedophilia. So that behavior is just expansive. Do I understand correctly?
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David Icke
Yeah, and by the way, the, the guy I was talking about, just Lord named Lord Mandelson, I was going to.
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Host 2
Say I couldn't remember his last name. Lord.
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David Icke
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Lord Mandelson. Yeah. They're trying to get into, to, to drop the Lord and be thrown out of the House of Lords now. But you know, what you've just described is, is yeah, that's the kind of foundation of the way works. But you know, every, everywhere has its Epstein. So you have the Epstein through that period in, in the United States and further afield of course, as we're now seeing. But we had our own Epstein in Britain called Jimmy Savile. Jimmy Savile was a, a BBC entertainer. And in the 1960s I remember him coming to the, to prominence. He was known as a, a disc jockey, which was a new term in those days. And he was a frontman host for BBC programs and he, he was on, you know, playing discs on the radio and all that stuff and. Yeah, playing discs. They'll show my age. But then in the late 1990s, I, I published a book called the Biggest Secret and in which I talked about this non human element for the, not for the first time but in detail. And part of it was that I met. One section of it was I, I met a lady who was a close friend of Princess Diana for nine years. I've still got our chat on one of those reel to reel kind of audio tapes and she told me a load of things about the British royal family which had been told to her by Diana. And she had other sources as well, but she told me about this guy, Jimmy Savile and how he was a paedophile and was in the heart of the British royal family. And how Prince Charles, then Prince Charles, now King Charles, had used Savile, this disc jockey, as a go between with Diana during their, their marriage breakup. Bizarre you would think, right? And, and Savile became a very, very close friend of Prince Philip before they had a big fallout. And well, virtually to his death, if not to his death, was a close friend of Prince Charles, now King Charles. So I started to do kind of research into this guy and what you find by his own admission is that he was invited into the, the bosom, the inner circle of the British royal family by a guy called Lord Mountbatten. Lord Mountbatten was a known pedophile. In fact, there are FBI files on him to that effect. And so this pedophile, Lord Mountbatten, who was a close associate of the Queen, invites this pedophile, Jimmy Savile, into the. Into the bosom of the inner circle of the Royal Family. And he stayed there pretty much towards the. For much of the rest of his life. And then after he died in 2011, a year later, there was a. A television documentary by Independent Television here. It's not really independent, but it was on that occasion, thank goodness, and it exposed Saville as a mega, mega paedophile. I mean, historic levels of pedophilia. And it was a big furore and what have you, but the Royal Family were never questioned on it. Hold on a minute. This Jimmy Savile has been in your inner circle since the 60s. You didn't know what he was? Well, of course he was in there, because they did know what he was. Because although his pedophilia and indeed his Satanism came out as more and more women came forward to describe how Savile had abused them as kids, what didn't come out, but I established and I put it in my books, is that he was a procurer of children for the rich and famous. Not only was a pedophile himself, he was procuring kids for the rich and famous, including people like the British Prime Minister, Ted Heath, Edward Heath. Edward Heath was the man who took Britain into the. What became the European Union, the Common Market at the time, in the early 70s. And he was, he was Prime Minister for a time. And in the biggest secret, which came out in 1998, when he was still a Member of Parliament, I, I named him as a pedophile Satanist. And in the week of publication, the journalist, or passes for one, contacted him and read the passage to him. I mean, he's an mp, he's extremely rich. He could have taken that book out, but he would have to go to court to do it. And all he said was, david Icke must be mad. And that was the end of it, and never heard another thing. Seventeen years later, when various people came forward making accusations about Heath as a paedophile, Wiltshire Police in England did an investigation. He was dead by then and decreed that if he was still alive, he would definitely be brought in for questioning. There was enough evidence to bring him in for questioning on these allegations 17 years later. And I'll tell you something about Ted Heath, right? I, I was in television. I, I finished in 1990, when I had my head explosion and. And. And I was launched into this. This life for the last 36 years. But during the 19. The late 1980s, I was also a national spokesman for the British Green Party. It didn't last long because I saw politics from the inside and I thought, I'm out of here. But anyway, different. Different rosette, same, same techniques, same nonsense. Anyway, as a result of. There was a European election, I think it was in 1989, and the Green Party had never done very well at all. Very, very small votes and really no mentions in the media at all, really. But during 1998 and into 1989, suddenly the support for the Green Party started to grow and grow and grow. And it was proposed in the polls, or said in the polls, that the Green Party was going to do extremely well in the European elections of 1989. And so I was invited by Sky News to go to their headquarters and comment live on the show as the election results were coming in. Okay, So I turn up and I'm met by this lady at the door, and she says, oh, I'll take you into makeup. So she takes me into makeup. And when I went into the makeup room, the door was. Was. Was out, was open there. And I walked in, and to me, the place was empty. And she said to me, there'll be someone coming to see you in a minute. So I go and sit down, and I'm looking at the mirror thing. And then something caught my eye to my. Right. Now, let me emphasize at this point, I had no idea of any of this stuff that. That we're talking about now. None of it. That. That started about a year later. So something caught my eye, and I looked across, and sitting behind the doors, why I couldn't see him was Ted Heath, then the former Prime Minister of Britain, who'd just been interviewed on the live show and was waiting to have his makeup taken off. So, being a friendly bloke, I said, all right, mate. I couldn't stand his politics, but, all right, mate, how are you doing? And what happened next, I couldn't explain, but I could. Now he's looking. He's looking at the mirror when I said hello, and he sort of turned in the chair and he looked at me. Never said a word. Not a word was spoken this entire time. And he looks at me, kind of an inquisitive look on his face, like, what's this? That kind of look. And then his eyes started at the top of my head, and then they went down to my feet and then went back again. And then he turned and looked back at the mirror. Never said a bloody word. Now what happened while the, what I would call the scanning was taking place? The entirety of his eyes, including the whites, turned jet black. Jet black. And I'm looking at this and I've described it as like looking into two black holes. It was like, you know, when you, you, you're, you're having a conversation with people, you have eye contact. There's, there's eye contact between you, right? But he had no bloody eyes. They were black holes. And so it was like looking, I would say now, like looking through his eyes into another dimension. And what happened later was I was in America. It was 1996, and in a, a 15 day period, I met 12 different people in different cities because I was, I was talking to nobody, but I was traveling and talking every day. Who told me how they'd seen a, a human, apparently a human turn into a reptilian figure and then go back again. And you're like, what? But what you don't do is just dismiss it unless you know it's nonsense. You think, I'll wait and see if other information comes on this. And it did, massively. Anyway. I had an appointment after I came back from America to meet a lady who said that she was the former wife of a guy who was the steward of an area in the west of London called Burnham Beaches. It's an area of cops and clearings and woods and it's owned by the city of London. And anyone who does research into the city of London, you know how, what an absolutely, not only financial center that is, but an unbelievable satanic center that is, I mean, yes, horrific. I talked about all that in the books over the years. So I was meeting this lady who's going to tell me about her time with this guy when he was basically organizing Satanism and satanic rituals in those woods. So anyway, we have the chat and I'm writing all down and all that stuff and I had a cup of tea, I just finished me tea and I, and I, I said, well, thanks ever so much for talking to me. That's kind of incredible. I've got to just kind of digest all that. And I put me tea down and I turned and as I turned I said, you know, I'm having some strange experiences recently. I said, I keep meeting people who say they've, they've seen people turn into reptiles. And I was turning away and all I heard was behind me. And I turned back and she's going, she says, oh my God. I weren't going to tell you that bit. She said, I thought even you'd think I was mad. And she told me of this experiences she had in that wood of reptilian type figures. But what she told me, there's this major experience is that she was out one night, walking, it was dark, and she saw a light through the trees. And she. She crept up and looked, looked through the trees at this light, she said, and, and. And this woman knew nothing about my experience with Ted Heath. Nothing whatsoever, she said, and I saw a. A satanic circle and they were in the robes. And she said it was led by Ted Heath. Here we go. Right. And she said next to him was actually his Chancellor of the Exchequer when he was Prime Minister, called Anthony Barber. And then there were these other people in the circle, in the robes. And she said, I was. First of all, I couldn't believe it, but I'm watching, she said, and then there came a point where suddenly Heath transforms into a reptilian figure and grows about 2ft. Now this, when they shape shift, they grow about a foot. Two foot is such a common theme all over the world that I've been told by so many people that that's what happens in a shapeshift. They basically grow. And she said that. Then Heath starts talking, she said, like the old transatlantic phone phone calls, where there's gaps between the words. People have to be of a certain age to remember the transatlantic phone calls and what they were like. And she said, what shocked me more than anything is that when it happened, nobody in the rest of the circle reacted as if it was the most natural thing in the world. And they've experienced it many, many, many times. And it turns out that paedophile Procure of Children for the Rich and Famous Jimmy Savile, inner circle member of the British Royal Family, was a great mate and associate of Ted Heath, who was he also a great friend of Margaret Thatcher and the Margaret Thatcher cabinet. In the 1990s, there was lots of revelations about, about the pedophilic nature of some members of her Cabinet, significant members of her Cabinet and all, of course, the lid was put on because you've got the cult that is orchestrating the pedophilia and orchestrating the Satanism, but it's also controlling the political and administrative levels. It's also controlling the media, and therefore it not only has the ability to orchestrate what happens, it has the ability to cover it up and make sure it never comes out. And so what you have is the media will ridicule or it will dismiss, or it won't even bother reporting or investigating these things. And so many times I've come across people, you know, politicians and such who have sought to follow up reports of satanic activity and pedophile activity in their area of influence, who've had it shut down and have it shut down by the police. Now, this is another point. It's well known now and has been for a long time that the police knew what Savile was doing. They knew that he was a mega paedophile, but he was never collared for it, never collared for it because of his connections. So you had this guy who was a disc jockey in the 60s who was allowed to be a mega paedophile and procure of children for the rich and famous right to the end of his life, long after his media career ended. He had houses all over the place and massive cars and Bentleys with no perceivable seeable source of income because he was procuring children for the. For the rich and famous. But the police never touched him. Now, there is a special branch in the police, there is the Royal Protection Unit in the police that directly interact with the British royal family. They would have known what the police knew of what Savile was doing. You think the Royal Family didn't know? Of course they knew. And so as these connections constantly are able to be made, you have the Epstein connection to Prince Andrew, massive. And you then have Prince Charles, who is. Who's now taken the title of Prince Andrew away in a damage limitation exercise. Maybe there'll be more sanctions as a result of this. The latest Epstein dropped and he's like, oh, no, you know, Prince Andrew is bringing terrible things on the British royal family. He's been dispatched to a long way from London now to a house in the middle of bloody nowhere in Norfolk to try to, you know, get him out of the public eye. He doesn't do royal events anymore. He hasn't done for a long time because he was. He was ostracized. But the guy doing the ostracizing was a close mate of Jimmy Savile, right? King Charles, all those years, decades.
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Host 2
Can I ask you, David, you saw.
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David Icke
Known in the public arena and the pictures exist now. The guy who brought him into the inner circle of the British royal family, Lord Mountbatten, who was a close associate of Jimmy Savile. Hence he brought him in. He's known as the mentor of Prince Philip and Prince Charles. So it all kind of connects. And no media organization asked the royal families the Royal family. The obvious question, what is this paedophile doing in your inner bosom since the 1960s. One other thing finally on Saville, this lady, this friend of Diana told me that Saville was into pedophilia on a mega scale. Yeah. Turned out to be true. She told me that he was into Satanism. Turned out to be true. And she also told me that he was into necrophilia. Oh, he likes sex with dead bodies. Now, Jimmy Savile was famous in Britain for doing charity work. It was one of his fronts. And one of the things he did was volunteer ongoing over a long period of time as a porter in a hospital in Leeds in the north of England. Why? Well, we now know it gave him access to the mortuary. Oh. So, you know, and, and, and because Savile was so kind of famous and, and other reasons too, in the, in the background, of course, the politicians loved him and, and, and wanted to be photographed with him and. Oh yeah, Jimmy, such a good guy. And that's how he turned out to be. And so again, you have the, the public face and you have the real face, but you talked about.
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Host 2
Go ahead.
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Host 1
So I felt very strongly around the disappearance of Princess Kate. They're using a doppelganger, her re emergence having beat cancer, that there was something foul there and that the idea of using someone who wasn't even close to her appearance, it just really made me extremely uncomfortable. And now in the context of all of this secrecy, it feels like that, like we can feel it when there's some kind of institutional hypocrisy, when there's something transparent about it. And I don't want to ask you to re litigate that because she seems to be back in public appearance and I don't quite understand it even still the Royal Family's explanation, but it does again, feel like this is an institutional evil that feeds upon itself. I just.
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David Icke
Yeah. But I'll tell you something else. Over the years, things I've picked up in various ways and various sources. Well, let me, let me go back to, to the early 1990s when the top of my head blew off and I was launched into this, you know, I, my television career finished, I left the, the Green Party and what have you. And I went on this journey of trying to uncover what the hell was going on in the world. And various things happened to me. Extremely paranormal experiences happened to me in 1990, 1991, that, that, that launched me on this journey. And from the moment they happened, the synchronicity of my life was Just ridiculous. I would walk into people documents, personal experiences, books, whatever that were basically handing me puzzle pieces in an extraordinary synchronistic way. And one of the things that, that, that happened in the early 1990s is that I would keep meeting psychic people, professional psychics. I only went to one in 1990s story I told and that psychic told me I was going to go out on a world stage and reveal great secrets. And I thought you were having a laugh. Turn out to be true.
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Host 1
Here we are.
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David Icke
Yeah. But what happened was after that, after that one, I went to. I. The synchronicity of my life was like, if you wanted to meet a professional psychic, well, you should have followed me around for about a year because I was meeting them all the time. What do you do? I'm a professional psychic. Oh, well, not another one, you know. But what, what was. What they were, some of them were telling me synchronistically, was that there was a energetic change coming. And what it would do would have the effect of bringing to the surface all that had been hidden so that humanity could at last see what had been going on without them realizing what was going on. And for a long time, when I was subject to endless ridicule and abuse and what have you and dismissal, it didn't seem like that was going to happen. The first book I wrote actually in 1991 or 1991, was called Truth Vibrations, which was about this was the title was based on this energy of bringing to the surface all that had been hidden and the fact that it couldn't be stopped. And no matter how this, you know, manipulation was trying to stop it, it couldn't be stopped. And now I'm starting to look at it.
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Host 1
Yeah.
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David Icke
And I'm starting to see this, this, this bringing to the surface all that had been hidden from us. How. And this is why, as I said right at the start of our chat, that the normal is going to have to change because what's coming to the surface and being revealed is going to change people's sense of normal. And it's going to be very challenging to them as they see actually the world they've been living in compared with the one they thought they were living in. Completely different. So I think we're in for some, some very interesting times, not only negatively, although they're, you know, these, this global cult is going to throw the kitchen sink now because it's starting to be backed into a bit of a corner, but also good things in terms of information coming to light and people starting to see hey, this is real. Yeah. That they haven't before. So I, I think, you know, it's not all doom and gloom. Absolutely not. And where this goes from here depends on us.
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Host 2
Yeah, I think you're right. I think seeing the resurfacing of some of these on X, you've seen it over the past 72 hours. Oh, Princess Diana was right. She was telling us, she was telling us about these things. We had to wait decades to finally see these things. Michael Jackson, Michael Jackson, all these other pieces of these stories. But then you're also seeing people like Dan Bongino trying to go back and do his show. Show after lying, after lying to all of us. And then the comments just filled with thousands of people saying, you're lying, you're lying, you're lying, you're a traitor. So there's an awakening happening.
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Host 1
It must be incredibly validating to you who's waited so long and stood in your truth.
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David Icke
So yeah, talk about a relief. You think, you know, I'm told this is going to happen but I can't see evidence of it. But now suddenly you can. Another thing that's happening is that what I call the fake alternative media, present company not included, by the way, the fake alternative media, they're increasingly being exposed as well. What they really stand for is coming to the surface rather than what they said they stood for. And very, very quickly. And one thing in my mind I remember is when, when I talked to this friend of Diana for nine, over nine years. Another thing she said because Diana had died by then. Yeah, in the, the, the fake accident in, in the Pump Delma tunnel. Diana by the way was an ancient moon goddess and Pont Dalma means bridge or passage of the moon goddess. It's all symbolism. All symbolism. And, and, and so what, what she, this, this friend told me that Diana told them is about the Royal family. She actually said they're not human. And she wasn't talking about metaphorically, she was talking about literally. Wow.
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Host 2
Well, you've seen and I've studied some of the clairvoyance and remote viewing individuals who've remote viewed into Westminster and other and other places and talked of really nefarious things. We're talking cloning, we're talking all sorts of bizarre.
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David Icke
Oh yeah, of course Epstein was in, into that old cloning arena as well. You know the, the, you know a lot of people don't talk about this Zorro ranch that he had so many different aspects. Oh, by the way, Juliet Bryant who was one of the survivors of the Epstein ring, she comes from South Africa and she was taken to, to into the Epstein ring in America. She talks, as she says on a show on a iconic media platform, how when she was with Epstein on the island, that he turned into a dragon type figure. Very briefly, but very clearly to her it was a dragon like figure. And she said at the time, of course, I'd never, I thought, I thought, what the hell's going on? Because I'd never heard of any of it. And then later a mother, I think, came across my stuff trying to explain what happened. This world is nothing like we think it is. It's so important, as I said at the start, to have a blank sheet of paper where our perceptions and sense of reality earn their place on that paper by evidence, not preconceived idea, not what we've been programmed to believe all our lives, but on evidence and on basic common sense, often and to encompass the possibility that maybe we don't know it all. You know, there's a, an ancient Greek philosopher, Socrates, who talked about to know is to know, you know, nothing. That's the, basically the, the meaning of true knowledge. In other words, you realize that whatever you know, given, given this tiny band of frequency that we're able to see, and just imagine from this tiny band of frequency comes orthodox science and academia, all from this band of frequency where people glean their perceptions of academia and science. So one thing you can say without fear of credible contradiction is whatever we know, there's always more to know. And so the question is, what don't we know? And that question constantly expands your sense of the possible. And then you end up in the realm of realizing that the world is not even a smear like we thought it was.
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Host 2
And trying to navigate all of this, your new book is called the Roadmap. You can see it over your shoulder there as well. And yeah, your new book is called the Roadmap. And you have a brand new UK tour as well. Two of the dates are already sold out in Hull and Derby. Gateshead is still available at the end of February and Colchester as well. But I highly recommend. And after our last talk, so many of our viewers said they went and bought your book and bought the Roadmap to start to try to navigate all of this craziness.
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David Icke
Well, the Roadmap is about connecting the dots across all these different areas. You know, it deals with the here and now trump phenomena and goes right out into the afterlife really. So, but it all connects and you know, it's like if you don't, if you don't encompass this other level from which it's being orchestrated. And you only see this level. Well, this level will make it appear as if everything's about us and them. Us and them divide and rule. But when you go to that level and you realize that these us and thems are actually all controlled from this level, then the us and thems become a they. People say, so who are this they? Well, there you go. That's who they are ultimately orchestrating human, human society as a, a loose farm. And we don't have to be. That's the point. This is, this is vital to, to emphasize, you know, the whole point, the whole foundation of human control is to focus attention on this tiny band of frequency, visible light, as if this is all there is. I mean, you've still got orthodox science saying, oh, no, there's no, no other levels. It's only this one. Yeah, okay. And so all those, you know, endless, endless areas of, of unexplored space. There's no life there at all. And. Oh, no, no, no. Oh, I mean, just look at it. You know what I mean?
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Host 2
Right.
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David Icke
But the thing is that once you start to open your mind and let information be your guide, then a process starts to happen where you start to expand your awareness into greater and greater and greater swathes of consciousness beyond the manipulated human world, etc. And that's when you start to tap into insight, knowledge, awareness that you didn't, you didn't know before. You, you, you weren't aware of before. You have, you have these insights, you have these intuitive knowings that suddenly kind of, kind of come to you and end up being proved correct with, with evidence. And the key thing is to understand that level because what, what happens is if, if you, if you're only aware of, of this, this human level, if you like, then everything seems to be us and them. Everything seems to be random, everything seems to be unexplainable. But when you go to that level and you realize that actually that's orchestrating all these apparently unconnected areas of nations and people, then suddenly what appears here to be us and them divide and rule becomes here they. People say, who are they? Who's this they? Well, there's the they, and these are just servants to the they. And no matter whether it's left or right or this religion or that religion, they are ultimately in control. Even though the vast majority of people with these political ideologies and these, these religions have no idea that that's the case. And, you know, awakening is so much easier Than, than people realize. Well, I've looked at the, the, you know, they're kind of the spiritual side and the new age and all that, and, and it all seems terribly complicated. You, you have to go on these quests or you have to do this or do that to, you know, expand your consciousness. I, I think it's much simpler than that. I really do. I think all genius is simple. And I think we're, we're part of a, a genius reality in, in many ways. Well, more than many ways if you get further out. Total genius. And for me, all we need to do is to redefine our self identity. So if you are focused on your I, who you are being your, your body and the labels of a, a human life, like I'm a man, a woman, I'm this sexuality, this race, this religion, whatever, then you are self identifying with limitation. You, you're in a myopia of self identity and therefore you are, you are trapped in the pro. And what happens as a result of, of your attention being focused on the myopia of self identifying with the labels of the body is that your consciousness is also reflecting that myopia. And so you're, you're in the world and you are of it. All your information and insights are coming from the information controlled in the, the world that you're experiencing. In other words, the cult. But if you redefine your self identity to I am the consciousness having the experience that what we call human is merely a brief experience in a, what we call a human body to interact with this particular band of frequency. But who I am, the real I, is the consciousness having the experience. Then what happens is instead of your self identity being myopic, your self identity starts to expand and expand and expand it to the point where eventually you realize that you're an expression of an infinite state of consciousness. You are it basically all that, all that is, has been and ever can be having a brief human experience, which is a long way from Ethel on the checkout and Bill driving the bus that we told, we told to identify with. And as your sense of self identity expands and expands and expands, so does your consciousness reflecting that expansion, going deeper and deeper and deeper into the infinite realm of consciousness. And this is awakening. Suddenly you're going, I can see it now. Why couldn't I see it before? Because you were there before, that's why. Now you're here. Now you can see it. And the idea of the whole foundation of the conspiracy is to keep people so focused in their attention. And I'LL give you an example. Okay. I'm sitting here and I can see, I can see the room and, and basically all that's around me in this video, like frequency band. So now I do that and I focus on it. The room's disappeared. There is no room anymore. This has my finger and, and, and, and that's what myopia does. Myopia of perception, myopia of self identity. It does that. And awakening is going, oh, so that for a game of soldiers, I'm, I'm more than I thought I was. And, and suddenly you start to get insights, awareness. You see things you couldn't see before because your, your expansion of consciousness is expanding with your expansing self identity. I am consciousness, ultimately an expression of all consciousness. I am not Ethel on the checkout.
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Host 2
David. The new book is called the Roadmap. Again, the tour is available for people that want to go see you live. It's been really an honor. I mean, there was no one that I wanted to talk to more about all of this today to help us make sense of it. And so when you see this sort of myopic approach of people online, I hope people will share this far and wide. The great David Icke. Thank you so much for joining us, David. It's been an honor once again.
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David Icke
Well, it's been my pleasure. I can tell you. It's been great.
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Host 2
Thank you, David.
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Host 1
Thank you so much.
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David Icke
Thank you. Bye.
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Host 2
Wow. Thank you so much, David. Unbelievable stuff. Really, really appreciate him joining us. And again, like I said to him, I mean, there's no one I would have rather talked to about this.
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Host 1
It's a good reminder, too. Like, don't get caught up in the minutiae of this party, that party, this political figure. It's a good reminder for me as well, because the algorithm is designed to make you do that and you have to float above that.
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Host 2
Right. And when you watch like, Dan Bongino's of the World or like these other, like, you know, MAGA influencer shows that hold up, you know, Epstein Binders, and they're like, Trump's God, he's Jesus Christ. Like, yeah, give me a break. Give me a break on all of it. I just, I found it so hard to not, like, chime in. Well, because, like, he started getting into, like, close to the quantum field theory and all of, like, the physics nerd stuff that I really, really, really get into. And so, so, yeah, I'm going to be watching some, you know, some videos on quantum foam tonight, just, just because.
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Host 1
Okay, you need to do that.
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Host 2
Yes, I know there was like something in there for everyone. So thank you to David.
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Host 1
Right. And again, you know, the Princess Kate stuff, when we covered that story, there was a lot of people who were like, this is TMZ stuff. Absolutely. It's not, it's part of it. So I felt like vindicated, a bit of a victory lap on the fact that I was so obsessed with the prince and still am with the Princess Kate story. So.
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Host 2
Okay, well, even when I was talking about the cloning, the cloning in the royal family part, and you know, and he, you know, validated a lot of that part of it for us too, you know, it's like, okay, I know.
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Host 1
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Host 2
Bye everyone.
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Host 1
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David Icke
Hi everybody, it's Andy and James here from your next favorite podcast.
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Host 2
No such thing as a fish.
- [87:57]
David Icke
That's right. We do fun facts. Yes we do. James, give me a fact. Did you know that there is an extinct bandicoot whose official scientific name is Crash Bandicoot? Lovely. I didn't know that.
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Host 2
Did you know, James, that Upper Egypt.
- [88:10]
David Icke
Is technically below Lower Egypt? Incredible. Absolutely amazing. I would love to hear more about that. Well, all you have to do is go and listen to no such thing as a fish.
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Host 2
Where will I find it?
- [88:20]
David Icke
All over. Okay, bye bye.