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Thomas Keller
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Clayton Morris
And wake up, everybody. Welcome in to redacted. I'm Clayton Morris.
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Natalie Morris
I'm Natalie Morris. Welcome back to the live show. We're glad to be with you.
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Clayton Morris
So glad to be back. You know, we leave and the world goes to shit. Like, what the hell is happening? I mean, the White House. The White House has totally had the biggest fumble of their presidency so far. Like, what in the world is going on?
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Natalie Morris
It's like we walk through a portal and Trump is Biden now. We are somehow back in the Biden administration. We have big, bloated bills. We have war with Ukraine, full on war with Gaza. No, stop. So, yeah, that's where we are.
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Clayton Morris
No Epstein. No Epstein fawning.
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Natalie Morris
No Epstein. That was the Democrats, apparently. Okay?
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Clayton Morris
And then you have fawning, fawning, frickin sycophants. You have fawning, frickin. Yeah, fawning, fricking sycophants all over, like, social media. They're like, stop talking about it. Stop talking about it. Trump. Trump posted a post on Truth Social telling us not to talk about Epstein anymore. Well, that blew up in his face. I mean, talk about giving. I've been enjoying all of the. I've been enjoying all of the. Is this you tweets that, you know, that people, like, they're coming out saying.
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Colonel Dan Davis
We can't be talking about this.
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Clayton Morris
And then, then somebody's like, is this you? And it's them saying, we need to know this. You know, like, come on, man.
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Natalie Morris
Right we're through the looking glass. I don't know how we got here, Clayton. We came back to a whole other reality.
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Clayton Morris
I know. I feel like I'm in a bizarro universe. You know, you have Ben Shapiro telling us, hey, don't worry about it. Just believe what the government tells you. I mean, you have Dinesh d' Souza saying that. It's like, what. What happened to these people? Anyway, we've got a lot of news to get to on this Tuesday. We're glad to be back. We are gonna talk about war in Ukraine. Why is the White House now about to send billions of dollars in weapons purchased through NATO into Ukraine? Zelensky just gave himself another 90 days of dictatorship. Power shouldn't talk about that. We're also gonna talk about the Epstein files and will Ghislaine Maxwell actually testify? Why is the Trump doj, like, stepping in and saying, no, no, no, we don't, you know, petitioning the Supreme Court, like, we don't want her to testify. Like, we want to keep this quiet. Again, what the hell is happening?
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Natalie Morris
Makes no sense. Also, Israel is admitting to shooting children there. This makes no sense. Here's how they say. They say that the bombs fell dozens of meters from the target. They were, in fact, aiming at terrorists, but the bullets fell away from the target. Clayton. Is that how guns work?
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Clayton Morris
Bullets just fell out of the gun?
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Natalie Morris
We were aiming for that, but they fell over that way dozens of meters from the target.
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James Robbins
Yeah, I have actually seen that happen.
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Colonel Dan Davis
On, like, Bugs Bunny and stuff, where.
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Clayton Morris
Bullets will be flying and they just stop and fall. Yeah, it shoots out with a little flag on it, and then it falls to the ground.
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Natalie Morris
Yeah, exactly. Is that what we're dealing with?
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Clayton Morris
They think, these morons. They think we're freaking idiots. I'm just sick of it.
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Natalie Morris
Raise your hand if you buy this. What idiot would say, oh, makes sense. That happens. Sorry about that.
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Clayton Morris
We're also gonna talk about Europe today, because I don't know if you've been watching what's happening in Spain. You probably haven't, because cnn, Fox News, the mainstream media in the United States is just worthless. They haven't been covering what's happening in Europe at all. I mean, riots over the weekend throughout Spain. You have citizens in Spain. Just saying, enough is enough. We want our country back. We want these illegal immigrants out of our country. It all started after an elderly couple was attacked by these Moroccan immigrants. So this is happening there. Of course. We're seeing in France. You're seeing it in Germany. You're Seeing it in the uk. The uk New statistics out. UK is now the rape capital of Europe. Thanks to all. That's great news for the uk so we got a lot of stuff to unpack here.
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Natalie Morris
We went and. Okay, we came back unraped so that, that was our experience.
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Clayton Morris
Speak for yourself.
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Natalie Morris
Good for us.
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Clayton Morris
All right, we're not fooling around. It's Tuesday. Welcome back to redacted. So great. Thank you guys so much for subscribing. Thank you guys so much for seeking the truth here. We have no agenda. We're not paid for by investors. We're not paid for by big pharma. We are supported by you and the few sponsors we have here on the show. So thank you guys for subscribing and being part of our community. Colonel Dan Davis is going to be joining us in a minute to talk about Ukraine and then we will be talking about Epstein. Come up right after that.
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Natalie Morris
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Clayton Morris
Bucker Bill in our chat says, are we gonna talk about Trump being a Zionist? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, certainly a Zionist supporter. I mean, I don't know. I mean. And a lot of people question, like, did he convert to Judaism secretly? I don't know. I know he went over and kissed the wall. So anyway, we're not talking about that right now, though. We're gonna talk about Ukraine. We're gonna talk about Epstein in a minute, though. But hey, the war in Ukraine, it's back on. Like if you thought it was off and you're like, done with it. Sorry, it's back on fully now and, oh, man, people are excited about this. President Zelensky changed the law once to stay in power for at least another 90 days. So your little troll, troll dictator is gonna stick around for another 90 days, even though people didn't vote for this. But, you know, supporting democracy. Right? So this is martial law and general mobilization continuing to throw young men into the meat grinder so they can die for this globalist agenda. President Trump, though, on Monday announced that he would send billions of dollars worth of weapons to Ukraine, including what's, what's included on this.
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Natalie Morris
Everything.
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Clayton Morris
Everything he said we'd like. Are you going to send them, you know, the long range, long range missiles? He's like, everything, everything's on the table.
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Natalie Morris
Does that include nuclear?
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Clayton Morris
I don't know. I guess everything's on the table, Natalie. So, yes, even long range weapons are on the table that were previously off the table. So now you can just, you know, attack Moscow if you want to. I guess when asked directly about the limits, he just said, you know, everything's on the table. Senator Lindsey Graham. I mean, this guy just had a wet dream over the weekend on this news, saying, Trump's new weapons sales, it's good for America. Listen to this douchebag.
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James Robbins
He has been trying to get Putin to the table. He believes Putin is playing him and he changed the game today. What did President Trump do today? He's selling weapons to NATO to benefit Ukraine. It is good for the American economy. These factories that exist in America that make weapons that will be selling those weapons to NATO, Europe will be paying for it and Ukraine would benefit. But he also told Putin, I'll give you 50 days to end this war. And if you haven't come to the peace table to end the war by 50 days, in 50 days, I'm going to put 100% tariff on all the countries that buy your oil and gas and defund your war machine.
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Colonel Dan Davis
Yeah, sure.
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Natalie Morris
That doesn't make any sense.
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Clayton Morris
Shut up, Lindsey Graham.
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Natalie Morris
I have a problem with that because it's still the US Budget that pays for NATO, despite the NATO conference where Europeans said, In the next 10 years we will pay more so the US is selling weapons to NATO, which we pay for. So basically it's a big money laundering.
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Clayton Morris
It's one, as the kids will say, it's one big circle jerk. No one better to talk about this, this whole weapons shipment and the craziness in Ukraine right now than Colonel Daniel Davis, great American patriot, and here to call out the bullshit on all of this. Colonel, great to see you as always, my friend. Welcome back to the show.
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James Robbins
Always a pleasure to be here. Thanks for inviting me back.
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Clayton Morris
So what the hell's going on? I mean, I thought we were gonna have a peace agreement. Now we're doubling down and sending anything is on the table, long range weapons. So we're fully back in this, Colonel. But hey, don't worry, it's good for the military industrial.
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James Robbins
Yeah, well, as long as it's good for the military industrial complex, then there's going to be a lot of bombs and stuff and they're going to make weapons and money then cool, right? I mean, is that supposed to be the objective? You know, I'm not tracking with that. And you know, a lot of people voted for President Trump because he said he was going to end this in a day. He said, I know Putin, I know Zelensky, I know what their pressure points are and we'll get this thing done. And you know, he had that big speech in Saudi Arabia a month or two ago talking about how no more wars in the Middle east and all this kind of stuff, and he seems to be going back on all of them. So I don't really understand what he's doing here and what the intent is, because if he claimed that this is going to help bring it into the war, but there is absolutely no path to doing that. In a matter of fact, it's literally funding the opposite. So I don't know where he's, what he thinks this is going to accomplish, because even at face value, according to Axios, this was a total of about $10 billion worth of equipment. Well, you saw in 2024, Joe Biden had $61 billion of equipment, which absol. Just had nothing, no success whatsoever. In fact, Ukraine lost, and there's probably many reasons for this, but they lost faster after that, $61 billion was allocated. That is, it did not stop anything. So why does anybody think about one sixth of that amount is gonna do anything now except maybe make Ukraine lose slower? I don't get it.
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Clayton Morris
That's such a smart point. Such a smart point. Like the more money we put into this thing, the more likely it is. Ukraine loses.
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Colonel Dan Davis
Right?
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James Robbins
That's been the result because, and it really, it's not too surprising when you drill down a little bit, because it's the manpower. It's always been the men, not the machines, not the money, not the ammunition. It's been the manpower. And Ukraine is in a death spiral. They'll never be able to come up with enough men to offset what the Russians can bring to bear. I mean, they literally have millions more from which to choose. Ukraine is in a forced mobilization period where they get between between 20 and 25,000amonth. Russia is in a recruiting phase where they get between 40 and, or 30 and 40 and maybe even 50,000 in some months, et cetera. And you see, you can never escape the math of the, of an attritional war. This is what we're in. And so I don't understand why people at the highest levels of our government don't understand the basic math of it. Forget about your preferences or anything else. Doing this will not change the math and it will not change the deterioration on the battlefield. Ergo, it's going to facilitate Russia winning more Ukrainian land. That's the perverse bottom line.
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Natalie Morris
Well, here's something that may be a clue into why is the President doing it. When you look at the big beautiful bill, you notice that the estimates to the boost in the economy will be to due mostly to tax cuts and increased defense spending. That's how the President has budgeted increasing the economy in the short term through the big beautiful bill. And he needs that to happen. That's the same as what President Biden made the case, like, hey, we're gonna sell the weapons, we're gonna make some money, it's gonna be good for us. Right? And so now I see no daylight between the intention of the Trump administration and the intention of the Biden administration, which is expanding the war industrial complex. Now, we talked about before we brought you on how the administration and Lindsey Graham is saying, no, but we're selling them to NATO. But again, we pay for NATO. So do you see this as a big money laundering scheme when there's nothing's going to change with the outcome of the war, as you just said?
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Colonel Dan Davis
Yeah.
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James Robbins
I mean, whether it's intentional or just as a byproduct, I mean, that's the net result that we can't argue about. But listen, there's, there's bigger issues for our national security which need to be addressed and highlighted here. It doesn't matter so much who pays for these weapons. It matters the fact that we're getting them out of our inventory. And it's already been Bridge, Colby and several others talked about in the last couple of weeks how the reason we put some of these last pauses on the shipment going to Ukraine was because our stock were getting too low. They were getting below the critical need that we need should we need them in our own defense. And so instead of saying, yeah, we can't give anymore because our production capacity is so slow in comparison that we don't have time to replace. So now instead of saying no, we're going to not go down too low with our own stockpiles, we're going to go down faster. And I just don't understand why. We're literally playing with our own national security. And look at what happened with Israel, what's, you know, what's happened with Iran and now what's going on with the Ukraine, etc. Our THAAD missiles, for example, key issue here, we used about 15 to 20% of our entire arsenal in that last barrage that so called 12 day war that we engaged in of our, that means our national security is now at risk if we need theater ballistic missile protection anywhere in the world. And unfortunately that just doesn't get enough notice and I think it needs to get more.
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Clayton Morris
So can I ask you some tactical stuff here about Ukraine? Where do we stand in this war? I just saw someone in our chat room just saying, you know, guys, remember like over 100,000 people, 100,000 young men in Ukraine have now deserted. Soldiers leaving the front lines, running away if they can. Young men being conscripted, grabbed off the street, thrown into the meat grinder I don't know how many of these people they have left. Can you talk about the tactics here? What is the overall tactical strategy going up against Russia right now? They're being decimated.
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James Robbins
Yeah, the number that I've actually seen, the most credible number is about 225,000 have been deserted, not just 100,000, unless that was over a narrow period. I'm not sure. I haven't seen that figure. But in terms of the strategy, I had a pro Ukrainian person on my show a couple of days ago and asked the question because I pointed out the realities on the ground, that clearly they don't have the manpower, they don't have the equipment. These drones are going to continue to fly and the missiles from Russia, no matter what Trump does, you won't have enough to knock them all down. And I said, what is the path? Because you see that with enough time, an attritional War will eventually grind you to literal nothing, and you'll lose everything. And he said, we're just hoping for a miracle. We're just keeping fighting one day at a time, just hoping for a miracle, holding Russia back as fast as we can. But on the battlefield, what they're doing is they're trading time for space in the hope that something miraculous would happen, that there's no rational basis for that hope. But that is what they're doing, and that's why they keep fighting, just in this hope that something changes, which is a terrible thing to do, because that forestalls making a rational choice of, let's have a negotiated settlement that ends with ugly terms, and they would be ugly right now, but would stop the killing and stop the loss of any more territory, as opposed to hoping for this miracle. And if it doesn't come, you could literally lose everything.
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Natalie Morris
And one of my fears is that this gives, you know, inhuman creatures like Lindsey Graham the right to say, I told you so. You can't negotiate with Putin. So it is a stain on the efforts of diplomacy. So are we even gonna try this anymore? We thought that if diplomacy had any hope, it would be with President Trump, definitely over Kamala Harris. And now it seems like that's been deflated and the bad guys now have the narrative.
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James Robbins
I hate the way you put that. But it's hard to argue with any of it, because, yeah, I mean, I had really hoped, because Trump, I mean, was emphatic from 2023 on. He was always talking about, I'll have this war over in a day and, you know, no more dumb wars and all that kind of stuff. And I thought. I genuinely thought he would do it. But then all of a sudden, the days start turning into weeks, start turning into months, and every opportunity he had to use the leverage we have to compel a deal, the best terms that could come out for Ukraine, but it would force an end to this war. He just let it go. And then he talked, Remember, about 100 days? Kellogg said, we'd have this done in 100 days. And then it was in April. He said, all right, we are days away from walking away from this. If we don't get it, that's going to be it. And then the days turned into weeks and again started turning into months. And now we have 50 days. And I don't know what any of these numbers mean, because none of them have held. The only thing I can see, no matter what intent is, is that we're keeping it on life support the war, so that it continues on. And of course, that makes Lindsey Graham and all his folks really happy. And it just keeps the death toll climbing by the day in Ukraine, which is immoral and egregious, in my view.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah. Maybe we can push it to 20 years, like Afghanistan. Really enrich that. A military industrial complex. I think that'd be great. Really fantastic stuff. Colonel Dan Davis from the deep dive. Always great to see you, and we really appreciate your insights on this. I think you're right that hundred days have been squandered. Colonel Davis, great to see you. Thanks so much.
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Natalie Morris
All right, coming up, we're gonna. Oh, excuse me. I didn't mean to talk over him. That was rude. I need to get back into the routine, back in the flow. I apologize. My timing was off on there. But coming up, we're gonna talk about Epstein. Why? The Department of Justice has said we don't want the Supreme Court to hear the appeal of Ghislaine Maxwell. There was no client list, Clayton. There was no abuse that happened. It was only porn on Epstein's laptop. None of that happened. But Ghislaine Maxwell needs to be in prison. So that's weird, right? We're going to talk about that Also, we're going to talk about how Israel says that their bullets just fall away from targets. They're not targeting children, but children die because they just. Just fall away. That's how.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah, like when they're shooting, like when the Israeli soldiers are firing at aid workers, the bullets, like, miss the aid workers and then go and kill the children.
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Natalie Morris
I mean, if that's true, if there were any plausible way to accept that as truth, maybe we would talk about competence of the people we send weapons to. Right. Maybe that's a discussion. So we're going to talk about that in just a minute. But first.
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Clayton Morris
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Colonel Dan Davis
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Clayton Morris
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Thomas Keller
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Clayton Morris
Well, the white House is in full damage Control at the beginning of this week. Apparently, the White House is now going to perhaps start releasing more Epstein information, according to sources. But why are they walking this back? I'll believe it when I see it. Meanwhile, Ghislaine Maxwell. To me, this is the biggest story. On Monday, the DOJ asked the Supreme Court to deny Maxwell's appeal of her sex trafficking conviction. But just last week, in a separate case, the DOJ claimed there was no Epstein client list, no evidence of ongoing trafficking, no basis to pursue charges against the powerful men who frequented the homes, islands, private planes, all of that. So which is it? If there was no trafficking network, no clients, no names, what exactly was Maxwell convicted of? Why is she in prison? Why is the DOJ pushing the Supreme Court to deny all of this? We wanted to ask Viva Fry, who's been following this, as close as anybody. Get your legal mind wrapped around all of this. And he joins us now. Viva, great to see you. Welcome back to the show.
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Colonel Dan Davis
Thank you very much for having me. Yeah, it's the. It's the saga that's not going away anytime soon and the change in messaging is only causing people to have more questions. But, yeah, I revisited a vlog that I did six years ago in August when I was on the coast of New Brunswick on a road trip and Epstein had just allegedly taking his own life. Everything I said in that video six years ago could have been said yesterday. It's an amazing thing. Like, six years later, we have no more answers and unfortunately we just have more questions.
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Clayton Morris
It's really disturbing. Why would the DOJ ask the Supreme Court to deny this appeal? What do you make of that?
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Colonel Dan Davis
Well, I don't. The bottom line, the argument that is being presented now, or the theory is that the sex trafficking wasn't for third party, unindicted co conspirators. It was just sex trafficking for Jeffrey Epstein and his sexual predilections. And so they were trafficking young girls in for his massages with the method that he enjoyed the ending of these massages. And so the argument now, as far as I understand it, is that the trafficking for which Ghislaine Maxwell was convicted and, you know, Jeffrey Epstein was charged was just for the two of them, just for Jeffrey Epstein. And that there were, in fact, if there ever existed, such evidence of, you know, powerful people who were being blackmailed or partaking in the trafficking. The evidence doesn't exist now. And, you know, Trump has come out and said the file was cooked, deleted, tampered with, which is, incidentally something I've sort of been suggesting from the very get go that the FBI coming in now and relying on the very same FBI file prepared by the very same criminal FBI that they are now pursuing criminal investigations into was about as reliable as a, you know, a $3 bill. So to say that we've definitively concluded he killed himself, there was no blackmail material, no Epstein client list based on the file prepared by the FBI that we're now investigating for criminal corruption. It's not reliable. So how could they assert that as a matter of fact and not as a part of the conspiracy itself? So, I mean, that's a long winded answer. I think the argument now that they're presenting is that the trafficking was for Jeffrey Epstein alone, for his own personal pleasure. The videos that he had were for his own personal pleasure. There was no network involving Prince Andrew, other prominent political figures and the people who visited the island might just be caught up in this. And we don't want to release their names cuz they'll be dragged through the mud just by guilt through association. People aren't buying it, unfortunately.
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Clayton Morris
No, I think this is the biggest fumble of Trump's presidency so far. And this idea, this narrative that started unfolding over the past few days from the Trump administration that there's nothing to see here, stop talking about Epstein, move on. Then you had, I guess, some mag influencers like Ben Shapiro and you have others like Dinesh d' Souza who are out there saying, yeah, all right, let's just move on. Like we're just gonna take this. But you and I and millions of other people are not taking that as the answer. And I think this is, they're on damage control now. The White House is now basically saying Lara Trump in an interview saying, yeah, they realize that people want more on this. They're gonna start to release more information here and they're kind of backtracking on this. What do you expect we're going to see from Pam Bondi from the doj?
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Colonel Dan Davis
Well, I mean, we're going to see hopefully Benny Johnson reporting that there's going to be a change in tack, a change in strategy, that they've heard the voices of the people. And you know, I'm saying this clearly not from a position as being someone who's anti Trump. You can see from my backdrop, you know, one of the more vocal supporters of Trump. I think his presidency was a necessity, an existential necessity. That's here. That doesn't mean us too.
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Clayton Morris
No, I feel the same way. We feel the same way.
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Colonel Dan Davis
I don't think I Don't get called anti Trump by any, any serious people. I think it's. And I'm not trying to be demeaning. It's like trolls, because nobody who knows my history could possibly say that. You know, I'm not a sycophant in the sense that I believe the people you like need to be criticized when you. They're making an objective mistake. When Ben Shapiro came out and said, who cares about the JFK files, he got lambasted. And so the idea come out now and say, who cares about the Epstein files? Everybody cared about. Pam Bondi cared about it. Bongino cares about, Patel cares about it. Trump. It was a. Not central election issue, but it was, it was a key campaign issue to come out and come out with that truth post, which I think, and I tweeted it, I think it's the biggest mistake of his presidency, including first term, to say, who cares? This guy's been dead. We've talked about him enough. Move on. And then to have people just almost like 1984, Orwell, change the script mid script, like, yeah, Epstein, Epstein, Epstein. Oh, who cares? Move on. It's a big, big gaslighting. It's gaslighting. And like, you're dealing with, like, betraying people who are the most salt of the earth, diehard Trump supporters. It would have been one thing to say, holy crap, I've looked at it. It's a national security issue. We can't release this. That would presuppose that it's true. Some people are saying it's not a national security issue. Unfortunately, there is just no there there. Based on a file that came from the FBI that is a corrupt criminal organization under Biden. People are still asking the question, okay, fine, the FBI file might be empty because Comey and Brennan and whoever, you know, destroyed it. What about the, what about the intelligence file? Like, what does intelligence have on Epstein? You have Jim Acosta allegedly saying, I was told Epstein is intelligence. Leave alone, I don't care that the Daily Beast reports that these are, these are meaningful things that you can't just say Volta fast out of blue. Who cares? Move on. Especially, you know, contemporaneously with Netanyahu visiting the States a number of times, what many people believe was the first misstep of Iran. So you're trying to make people believe the unbelievable. And had the messaging just been different, like a, we can't release this now. We're very sorry. Would have been different. National security issue would have been different. People could say, I knew it. And now, you know, we can move on, and when it's time, we can release this. But to come out and say, who cares? And then have big accounts browbeat the people who put Trump in office into silence. Shut up. You're anti Trump if you push this issue. Shut up. Your anti pedo if you push this issue. It's the most insane 180 brow beating, gaslighting you can imagine. And Trump needs for the midterms and for 2028, and it's not the best way to go about this. So hopefully they change tack, but my goodness, it's an unforced error of the highest order.
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Clayton Morris
I want to circle back on Ghislaine Maxwell here in a minute, but I want to kind of play off a point you just pointed out about, like, where do these members, you know, where do people sit on all this issue? House Republicans rejected an amendment demanding the government release all Epstein files on Monday with every GOP member of the House Rules Committee, except Ralph Norman and Chip Roy, if I'm not mistaken, opposed this proposal. So. And Roy didn't vote. Norman, I think, supported the measure. Congressman Ro Khanna is out there. He's the one that pushed this. He basically said, I want to know where you guys really stand on this. We should all be able to, as members of Congress, put our names on this. Do you support this or do you want to continue to hide this? So House Republicans rejected this amendment. It's. What, what do you make of that?
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Colonel Dan Davis
Ro Khanna has been the only Democrat that I've ever seen who's mildly reasonable. I went through my Twitter feed, and I've never. I've never taken a shot at him because he's. He seems to be reasonable. Lord knows I hate to play the what if game. Had this been a year ago and the Biden administration done exactly this, people would be screaming bloody murk. Like, no doubt. So you do give your friends and your allies the benefit of the doubt that you might not give to demonstrable criminals like the Biden administration, like the Biden's FBI and DOJ, Merrick Garland, etc. But my goodness, it would be. It would be, you know, feigning disbelief to say, well, it's okay now because my side is doing it. Obviously, the people are not buying it. The people that Trump needs to vote them in. And people, I mean, if it's a 4D game of chess and Trump has successfully got the Democrats to try to get the release of the Epstein documents and that when they're released, well, then they asked for it, it would be great. But, you know, you don't get to deceive your. Your supporters. Even in this attempt to try to get your enemies to demand the release of the information that you want released, but for whatever the reason, you can't release it. So it is wild. Had the tables been turned, people would be screaming bloody murder. And it is the ultimate irony in all of this. Now you got Kevin Spacey on Twitter saying, release the files, and you've got Republicans blocking it with no explanation. National security issue. Okay. If the explanation is that we don't want to release cp, CSAP into the public, you know, I don't know if I guess child sexual abuse material, cp, Everybody knows. Nobody wants that. Like, nobody is asking to release child pornography. And for anybody to make that argument, oh, now you want us to release it. It's a disingenuous, gaslighting argument. Nobody wants that. The questions that people have, are the people involved in the csam, cp, was it only Epstein? Was it produced by other people? If it was produced by other people, who were those people who was featured in it, other than the victims? When you have Bondi coming out in February with a memo to Patel saying the FBI Southern District of New York field office is not respecting demands for communication of the files to me, and I want everything, including a list of Epstein and his clients. This was in her letter to then come on, say there's no clients, nothing to see here. Who cares about it, move on. And we're blocking any requests for the release of the documents. Oh, and you don't get to see CP as if anybody ever wanted that. I mean, it is bizarre. My only hope is that there's a national security reason, there's a strategic reason why this is happening, or that Trump hears and says this is going badly and not going badly because people are stubborn and they just want their cake and eat it too. It's going badly because people are losing faith in Trump to go after the deep state. And if the excuse is there's nothing there because they destroyed the evidence, great. Appoint a special counsel, see who destroyed the evidence, see who cooked the books, see who wrote the memos, and then go right back to Acosta's in, you know, a warrant, arrest, sweetheart, plea deal of Epstein, and start from scratch. If the entire file has been tainted, start from scratch, even if it doesn't result in criminal convictions or even charges because of the statute of limitations.
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Clayton Morris
Right.
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Colonel Dan Davis
Get an independent voice in there and start from scratch and make the file that is clean as clean could get now and at least, you know, name the names of the people who were involved in Epstein's orbit of sex trafficking of minors.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah, interview the victims. Actually interview Les Wexner. I mean, for crying out loud, why was he never part of this process? Why was he never interviewed? Now we have this appeal from Ghislaine Maxwell. I mean, what do you. Will Ghislaine actually testify before Congress? And if not, why is she still behind bars? Given what the DOJ has said about Epstein, why is she still sitting there?
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Colonel Dan Davis
She partook in sex trafficking. The only question is, was it only to Jeffrey Epstein? I don't think anybody believes that. But if that's the case, then you need to provide the evidence to satiate what are absolutely legitimate questions from the general public. Now, Ghislaine Maxwell coming out and testifying. This is the. I mean, first of all, there's nothing that she can't say by way of her lawyer. Now the question is, what access to evidence does she even have? If the evidence has been tainted, whatever Ghislaine Maxwell is going to say now is either going to be unsubstantiated. Unsubstantiated or contradicted by whatever evidence or lack thereof exists within whatever files left. So. But it is, unfortunately, it's just implausible that you have Prince Andrew directly implicated in all of this, and yet we're told there was nobody else involved because it was only trafficking for Epstein. You have a lot of, call it circumstantial evidence, but it's not circumstantial evidence. When you have Epstein after he's a convicted child predator, whatever the hell you want to call it, you know, involved in business with Ehud Barack, who's visiting him 30 some odd times and claimed not to know of his criminal background. Incidentally enough, the business that Epstein was investing a million dollars in, that Ehud Barack was running, was involved in online video streaming and geolocation services for security. But that's kind of an interesting dot if you choose to connect it. You got Glenn Maxwell sister involved in this company called Killion or something, which is about aggregating online data for the purposes of whatever one can only imagine, surveillance or, or other activities. So, but everybody, after 20 years and 10 years of this being in the political limelight, I said a while back this was a litmus issue test for the Trump presidency to come out. Now, after promises made and being told there's nothing there and you're the problem for asking for it, is a, is a very, very big slap in the face. I don't know how you make up for it with the people, but you have to because a, you need their votes. If you want to get. Don't want to get demolished in the midterms in 2026, and you need their votes in 2028. And the. The argument that some people have been pushing and imposing on the Internet, well, you better accept it, because the alternative is worse. You know, that's not the most compelling argument, because what happens is people get browbeaten into silence, and you don't win elections with a silent majority minority, whatever, that doesn't turn out to vote. So people have been slapped in the face with this.
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Clayton Morris
And then, yeah, I'm not going to sit back. I'm not going to sit back and take that. You know, shut up. You know, you're not allowed to ask questions about Epstein anymore. Like, this case is closed. There's nothing to see here. He was just a creepy guy. Oh, okay. What about his intelligence connections? How does this guy have billions of dollars from tax advice? Like there's, you know, a laundry list of questions. Why wasn't Les Wexner ever involved in any kind of questioning? Why is Ghislaine Maxwell still behind bars? If she wants to talk, as the Daily Mail is reporting, come on out and talk. We'd love to have her testify in open car. This is ridiculous that you're just gonna sweep this under the rug and. Shut up. Go back to your life. Ignore Epstein. You've got more important things to worry about, like your gas bills and your cost of eggs in your house. Shut up.
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Colonel Dan Davis
Although the reality, infuriating, they might be right. You've got more important things to work, worry about. And this is going to tank all of that because it's a sufficiently big issue. But, you know, the, the left, you know, the meme is everybody I. Everybody I disagree with is Hitler. Now it's turned into like everybody I disagree with. There's a people. You have people saying, I care about child sexual abuse and I'm not dropping the Epstein case. And then you have people trying to flip the argument to say Trump and the FBI has done more to combat child trafficking than the Biden men, which is true. But if you keep pushing the Epstein case, then you're the one who's actually supporting child pedos and whatever. It's really, I mean, it is a form of psychological abuse to have the people who have been legitimately, consistently concerned about this for nearly a decade now have the very same people who put it on blast say, no, you're the problem. If you continue with your insistence on the importance of this story. I do think, happily and luckily, Trump does listen to his base and he listens to the replies on truth. And there was no way for Trump to ignore the, what I think was nearly unanimous condemnation from that truth post in the replies on truth. And when you have people saying, I voted for you three times, but this is breaking my heart, I mean, that's almost worse than saying f off. I'm never, that's people saying, you're actually hurting me with this. I've supported you. I've been through thick and thin. I've lost friends, I've lost, you know, I don't know, jobs potentially. And now I feel absolutely betrayed by this about face. I think he's heard and they've got a look at the excuse also. I want to make sure I'm right about this. But the excuse that it's under court seal from various court orders, I'm fairly certain the AG has the power to do something about that. And so they're using arguments that they had never raised before. A, that, that, that it's sealed and they can't unseal it, or B, that it's been doctored by the prior FBI. You know, doj, they never used those excuses before. And it's only in the face of them saying, who cares? Move on now that they have to say, well, I can't, I can't unseal it anyhow because courts have sealed it. I think that's wrong. I think the AG has the power to do something about that. And, you know, it's, it's just, it's bringing up new excuses that were never brought in the first place that are causing people to question things. And it's, it's a, it's, it's such a terrible thing because it was the week of, you know, July 13, Butler failed assassination attempts, the miracle that Trump is still alive. They should have been celebrating that, you know, successes in the judicial front, successes in the economic front, they should have been celebrating that. But instead, an absolutely so unforced of an error that I question whether or not there was some sort of sabotage to divide the base and sink the Trump's second term. Because releasing an unsigned, undated memo in the dead of night to Axios, uploading it to the DOJ website the next day, not speaking to that memoir for the better part of a week, when rumors and controversy is swirling, then having Todd Blanche say everyone signed off on a memo that nobody signed off on, literally, if you were trying to sink the successes of the Trump presidency, I don't know what you would have done differently.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah. Now, well said. And there's so many, so many other things that I'm just furious about with all of this. I could spend an hour talking with you about it. Viva, great to see you, as always. Thank you so much for your, Your sharp legal mind on all of this. Thank you. And thanks for sticking with this story.
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Colonel Dan Davis
I don't, I'm not. I'm stubborn. You know, I've been on it for six years since it was, you know, being demonetized on YouTube because YouTube didn't want you talking about it. And I want Trump to succeed. I, you know, I think from a personal perspective, I need Trump to succeed. You know, it would be disastrous, not just for America, for the world. If this goes to the Democrats in 2026, he can potentially get impeached, convicted and removed from office or 2028, in which case, you know, America is going to look like the same Canada that I've had to pack up and leave from.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah. Oh, it'd be deeply disturbing if Nothing changes by 2028. I hope you're right about that. Viva, great to see you. Thank you so much, as always.
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Colonel Dan Davis
Thank you very much.
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Clayton Morris
Thank you. Yeah. And someone in our chat just says, graphics nuts. Says nothing is more important than stopping our children from the kind of monsters involved. Yeah, absolutely. It's the heart of it. You know, the other piece of this is like, well, Trump's on the list. Trump's on the list. I don't know, maybe he's in this, you know, in a larger capacity. We know that he's, you know, he's friends with him in some kind of capacity. But, you know, they had to invent the Russia collusion hoax. They had to invent a story to push a fake story. If Democrats had this story back then, they would have run with it. But you know what's really interesting, I was thinking about this today. All these Democrats in power are just so quiet about the story. Bill Clinton's not saying a word about it. Hillary Clinton's not saying a word about Epstein. Obama's not saying a word about it.
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Natalie Morris
If you need any other clue that they're a uni party. Right.
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Clayton Morris
Or that they're involved somehow. So they're staying quiet. They're really staying quiet about this whole thing. And it's. Something very nefarious is going on here, and we need answers. We're not going to shut up about it. Ben Shapiro These other morons want to tell us to shut up about it.
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Natalie Morris
It's like grassy knoll, like, oh, you're jfk, conspiracy theorist. Well, that one panned out. Right. And so they're saying, you're still on this. You're that kind of person impugning the kind of people who are still curious if there are, in fact, sex trafficking rings that exploit powerful people in order to give them position in our zeitgeist. Yeah, kind of still want to know about that one. Kind of do.
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Clayton Morris
Well said. All right, coming up, we're going to talk about. Oh, go ahead.
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Natalie Morris
Oh, David wants to say something.
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Colonel Dan Davis
I was just going to say, I feel like, like with Trump's truth social post, that he was basically setting up.
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James Robbins
To blame the Biden administration so that if his name did come out, somehow he could say, oh, no, they added.
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Clayton Morris
That like, they, they doctored that all.
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Colonel Dan Davis
It was the Bidens and Obama.
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Natalie Morris
I don't think that's possible. If you look at previous cases, when at the very least we had messages, proof of messages from President Trump's own personal number to Epstein through his assistant, that's really the only solid proof we've seen thus far that I've been able to see. But if you have something else, let us know.
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Clayton Morris
Frankie, the voice in our chest says, reduce the red orange in your settings. You guys look orange. I know the lighting. We're working on the lighting. Dave's gonna, we gotta, we gotta tweak this. But we're dealing with, like, some Windows settings and craziness with it, so in our new studio here. So we're trying to get to the bottom of this. I know it's frustrating. It frustrates me. So I hear your pain. It frustrates me. I get it. We're working on it. Don't worry.
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Natalie Morris
Can I fix that with the foundation?
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Clayton Morris
No. Coming up. Coming up on the show, we're gonna talk about Israel admitting to shooting children. But just. It was just they were trying to probably aiming at medical aid workers with their guns and the bullets just went the opposite way and hit children. So that's what these sick bastards are now saying. We're going to talk about that. What's going on in Gaza today. We're also going to talk about what the hell is happening in Spain, by the way. I don't know if you've been seeing it, but they're furious about the amount of immigrants that are just taking over their streets. UK now is the rape capital of Europe, so way to go, uk. You won that award. Like Elf. You know, the movie Elf is like, congratulations.
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Natalie Morris
Way to go, everyone. You did it.
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Clayton Morris
You did it.
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Natalie Morris
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Clayton Morris
World's rape capital. Europe's rape capital. The United Kingdom. Way to go on that. By opening up your borders and descending into chaos. All right, but first, we all know the cost of war. Cities being leveled, families shattered, lives lost. But here's what's not being said loud enough. We can wipe out our financial future as well. Right now, the US Is on a dangerous path. The US Dollar is teetering on disaster. President Trump this week and the whole crypto week right now, sort of trying to save it by trying to tie the US Dollar to stable coins. We'll see if that. See if that boondoggle actually works. I don't know. $37 trillion in debt. Good luck. So I was teaching my son. My son. I took a nice long walk the other day. My wife, Natalie, she said, miles, go walk with your dad. He wants to talk to you about silver. That's the perfect conversation for a teenager, right?
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Natalie Morris
He was into it.
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Clayton Morris
He was. Because he wants to understand he has a little money in his savings account, and he wants to start investing. And he's like, how can I start being smart about it? He's 14 years old. He's about to turn 15. Starting to do his driver's training, all that stuff. And he's like, I need to understand this. I want to understand this. So he took a long walk with me, and I was explaining to him the benefits of investing in precious metals. So, like mommy and daddy do, and I was explaining why silver is so powerful. It's not only, you know, currency. It's a commodity. It's used in everything, you know, and so it's. And it's. There's a silver shortage right now. And he's like, all right, well, how can I start doing that? I said, you know, silver, relatively speaking, to gold, is less expensive, but it's A lot of experts believe it's the one that's going to explode in value. And I said, all right, well, we'll help you out. We'll help you out, son. And so we hooked him up with our friends at Lear Capital. That's where we get our gold. That's where we get our silver. And so he's going to use some of his savings to start investing in precious metals so he can get his money out of US Dollars and be smart about it and start putting some of his allowance money when he does chores, all that kind of stuff. Mows lawns, everything. He's going to start actually buying precious metals, starting them off right. I don't want him to be like me when I was young and I was in debt and I had credit card debt. I really screwed up until my until I was in my 30s. So I want to start him off right. Anyway, if you want to start investing in precious metals, you want to start converting some of your US Dollars into precious metals, give them a call. They're American company. They will take care of you. Get on the phone with them. 1-800-613-3557. Get your free precious metals guide. They'll send it right to your door for free. There's no obligation. Just have a conversation with them. So go to learredacted.com, the website, or I prefer just getting on the phone with them because again, they want to talk to you. They're an American company. They're not going to outsource it to India. 1-800-613-3557 we are $37 trillion in debt in this country. The US dollar is collapsing. Protect your family, protect your loved ones, and start being smart about your financial future.
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Clayton Morris
All right.
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Natalie Morris
Your son was waiting for the birds and the bees and got the silver.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah, son. I want to talk to you about ladies.
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Natalie Morris
No, he's my baby boy. Don't you talk about him like that.
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Clayton Morris
But I will talk to him about silver. Yes, it was an easier conversation. You know, like glad you didn't have tell me to have that conversation.
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Natalie Morris
No, I have not.
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Clayton Morris
All right, all right.
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Natalie Morris
He's just a small baby.
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Clayton Morris
He's not. He's a 14 year old.
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Natalie Morris
All right, okay. Well, let's move on. Small children were killed at a water distribution point in central Gaza over the weekend. Shot. These are people's babies shot while trying to get water because they are thirsty. Because their homes and infrastructure have been systematically obliterated as collective punishment to civilians for the actions of Hamas. Now, this time Israel admitted it. They say they were targeting an Islamic Jihad terrorist. But the strike, this is a direct quote, fell dozens of meters from the target. Now, I know a tiny bit about guns. I don't think they work like that. If you shoot in one direction, they don't fall dozens of meters away. That's not how weapons work. It feels to me like saying fell dozens of meters from the target is their way of saying we missed and civilians die, but trust us, we were aiming for someone else. Is there any plausible reading where that phrase makes sense, where we can accept that? Joining us today is James Robbins. He's the author of Blowing Everything Up Is Israel's Extermination of Gaza. Thank you so much for joining us. So, James, what is your read of this? Is there any way we could accept this as anything other than direct targeting of innocent civilians?
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F
Look, all militaries in the world operate under what's called a principle of proportionality. So that's how many civilians you're allowed to kill or you allow yourself to kill. Now, the IDF has given itself a proportionality principle of anywhere between 20 and 30 civilians for every low ranking member of Hamas that it targets. For even higher ranking members of Hamas, that number goes up to even 300. Now, to put this in context, when the United States took out Osama Bin Laden, they allowed a non combat casualty cutoff value of 30. So in a sense, even if the IDF did make a mistake with this strike, their rules and their guidelines and their rules of engagement really allow them to kill dozens of civilians at a time. And this has gone on for 20 months now. And this massacre is just one massacre on top of a giant mountain of them. Massacres like these happen almost every single day in Gaza. Some of them are accidents. Surely most of them are not, right?
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Natalie Morris
And so Israel is saying that the incident is under review, but after they killed 15 medics and denied it, and then video evidence showed that they did in fact execute them, they called it a, quote, professional failure. So given the propaganda spin on every civilian death, that's outrageous. What can we expect from this review.
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F
Very little. There's a very good human rights group in Israel called Betselem and they gave up referring cases to the Israeli judicial system, I think in 2016, which is almost 10 years ago now. And they stopped referring cases to the Israeli judicial system because the conviction rate for Israeli soldiers who had killed, who had abused, who had tortured Palestinian detainees, Palestinian civilians, whenever tried, the conviction rate is so low as to not matter at all. Look, the Israeli government, the Israeli military continues to carry out these massacres because they are allowed to do so by the United States. The only country in the world that could possibly stop what is going on in Gaza right now is the United States, is the American president, which is a slightly terrifying thing because that means that the whole system of international law, international norms, has been completely broken, being completely wrecked. It is as ruined as the Gaza Strip is right now.
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Natalie Morris
Now I think we should remind ourselves why the Palestinians don't have food and water. We learned from what I thought was a shocking report from a group called Breaking the Silence. A report called the Perimeter detailed how they systematically destroyed homes, agricultural land, factories and infrastructure along the Gaza border in order to make sure that the civilians could not ever fend for themselves or live independently. So this idea that they don't have water is no accident, right?
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F
No accident at all. It's a deliberate policy. That report from Breaking the Silence is an incredibly good report. It relies on the testimony of IDF soldiers who, given anonymity, have spoken about their experiences and not only the destruction and demolition that takes place within that buffer zone, but also the random killings that IDF soldiers are allowed to engage in. They can shoot anyone on site. If they are male, they are classed as a terrorist. And if they are female or girl or child, then who cares? It goes much further than just the demolitions and the ruining of farmland and so on. Greenhouses within that buffer zone, look, 80%, probably higher now, of Gans residential stock. Its houses and its apartment buildings have been systematically ruined. As you mentioned before, there was an 11 week siege in which no fuel, no food, no aid, no medicine, not even an aspirin was allowed into the Gaza Strip. And the world hasn't seen urban hunger this extreme and concentrated since the siege of Leningrad ended in 1944. That's pretty shocking. Now, when the Israelis lifted this siege, I think at the end of May, if I remember rightly, Bethel Al Smotrich, the Israeli Finance minister and the most extreme right wing member of the government, got up and said, look, we're not releasing the siege out of our own good graces. We're not doing it out of our own beneficence. We're doing it so that the world stops accusing us of violations of the Genocide Convention, crimes against humanity and war crimes. We're doing it so that the United States continues to act as our patron, as our armorer, and as our legal linebacker. When somebody in the Israeli government gets up and says that out loud, that that's impunity in operation.
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Natalie Morris
Right. I don't know if you've ever read the book Let There Be Water by Seth Siegel. He talks about how Israelis have been able to thrive in their water conservation efforts, and they actually have more water than anyone else in the Middle east because they have reverse osmosis. They have all kinds of really clever technology. So the just position here of the Israelis who have this amazing access to clean water and then babies being shot for it right next door is just terrifying. I don't know how we all are living under this constant assault on our psyche, seeing it and being told that it's okay. It's not a question, but would you like to respond to that?
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Clayton Morris
Sure.
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F
And it's part of the reason why I wrote the book Blowing Up Everything is beautiful because it's very difficult with this subject because it lives under a shroud of propaganda and lies and misinformation. And it's very difficult for people who think that they might be sympathetic to the Palestinians and their plight or just outraged in general that mass murder is allowed to happen in today's day and age. I tried to cut through all of that. And, you know, like the title is something that is almost a direct quote, came from the Israeli Heritage Minister, a guy named Amichai Eliyahu. And he said he posted on Facebook, I think, in November of 2023, alongside a picture of a bulldozer running over somebody's house. And a bulldozer is as much a weapon of this war as missiles or bombs or tank shells. And this guy posted on Facebook, north Gaza is a treat for the eyes. Blowing up and flattening. Everything is beautiful. And I'm sorry to harp on the point, but again, this is impunity at work, isn't it? There's no punishment for these people, for their actions. And when there is a trial at the International Court of Justice, when there are hearings for Israel's breach of the Genocide Convention, potential breach, alleged breach, we will have to have these hearings be a refoundation of international law. They will have to be as important as the Nuremberg trials were in 1946. Otherwise, we're completely at sea. And it will be the rule of the powerful, and they will be able to kill you with impunity. That's what the Israelis are proving at the moment, and it's the reality that we're very, very quickly heading towards.
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Natalie Morris
So I just picked up on a little note of optimism in what you just said, which was, when this happens, because I think to a lot of us, it feels like it never will. So where did you find that seed of optimism? Can you share that with us?
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F
Well, it's not so much optimism, but it's reality. I mean, all throughout last year, there were hearings at the International Court of Justice. South Africa brought a case against Israel for breaches of the Genocide Convention. And the court ruled on multiple occasions that there were severe. There's a severe possibility of genocide taking place. And the court issued what are called provisional measures. They're sort of court orders that said Israel should not do genocide, obviously shouldn't incite genocide, and shouldn't weaponize aid, which is exactly what is happening now with these feeding centers, these aid stations that have been set up by the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation. But, you know, In May of 2024, the court issued another one of these rulings ahead of Israel's invasion of Rafah, the southernmost city in Gaza, which no longer exists. It's been completely razed to the ground. It's gone. You can see the Mediterranean from the middle of what used to be a city. The court ruled that Israel should not go ahead with its invasion of Rafah. It did so anyway. So even if we do end up in a situation where there are. There will be a trial and there will be. This has to happen now in several years time. Again, we'll have to go through this intense battle, this court battle, in which the law that we're operating under, the Genocide Convention, sets a very, very, very high bar to prove intent and to prove that genocide has taken place at all. Now, that's counterbalanced by the fact that there is an abundance of evidence, not only of direct targeted killings on. Of civilians on a mass scale, and the deprivation of civilians of their means of existence, their means of life, their food, their medicine, their housing, their access to water, and then as well, evidence of intent, like the quote from the Israeli Heritage Minister that I mentioned before and at the beginning of the book, I have quite a long list of other statements made by Israeli ministers and military officers to this effect. Proving intent will be quite easy.
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Natalie Morris
Okay, well, the book is called Blowing Up Everything Is Beautiful. Israel's Extermination of Gaza. James Robbins is our guest today. Thank you so much for this fantastic context. I'm going to pick up your book. I appreciate it very much.
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F
Thank you for having me.
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Natalie Morris
My pleasure. My pleasure.
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Clayton Morris
Excellent. Thanks, James.
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Natalie Morris
Fantastic. I think it helps us because we are witnessing such horror that a lot of times we think, I'm just seeing this through the Internet. Can this even be real? And you need evidence on your side to discuss this anymore? Because I'm overwrought by it. I think we all are. So. Yeah, the better informed. It's not just in the algorithm. There's more that we need to know about. It's happening on our watch.
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Clayton Morris
I just. Yeah, it's. I guess, I guess I kind of. I didn't, I didn't really get like, optimistic about the, the fact that there will be a trial, though, because, like, let's say that, you know, James was right, that it's like in a couple years, we get this, we get this trial, we get to go back and look at this genocide, but by then it's done. Everybody's dead. You know, like, so, so is the, Is the plan just to, like, what, like, like, erase Palestine, like all the Palestinians and then just Netanyahu can turn himself in and he takes the full blame, but the damage is done, right? Yeah, yeah. Even if he goes to prison. Even if he goes to prison, it's like the. There's still. Those people are all still dead. So it's just. That's not justice. I mean, I don't know. Yeah. And the sickos that wanted this, you know, this ethnic cleansing will then say, well, he was our sort of champion. Yeah, he, you know, he fell on a sword. Netanyahu did. He was a demon. You know, he might go down in world history as one of the most vile human beings of all time, but he fell on the sword. He killed two and a half million Palestinians, and now that land belongs to Israel. They've taken it over. And. And he just, you know, he rides off into the sunset right, as this, like, savior for these people.
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Natalie Morris
Yeah.
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Clayton Morris
Disgusting. All right, we've got more news to get to. We're going to talk about Spain. Someone in the chat said, now do Europe. Yeah. What the hell is happening in Spain? What's happening in the uk what's happening in France right now? Because the amount of immigrants have poured, you know, poured across their borders. The countries have, have intentionally let it happen. And it all came to a boiling point this weekend in Spain. Now Spanish citizens are taking their streets Back saying, get out. We want Spain to remain Spain. We are a Christian country. Get out of our country. We're gonna talk about that in a moment. But first, a close friend of ours just saved tens of thousands of dollars on Medicare and I want you to know how they did it. So if you've looked into Medicare, you know what a mess it is. And the more confused you are, the easier it is for the big insurance to steer you into overpriced. Overpriced plans that pad their profits. That's alliteration. Overpriced plans that pad their profits. That's what they do. And they take advantage. And it's, you know, they won't even give you the best plan. And that's why we trust Chapter. This is a fantastic company. Many of you have written to us and said, thank you guys for telling us about Chapter. We've signed up. It's free to sign up. And they will advocate for you, not the insurance company. They don't push high commission plans. They simply search every single Medicare option out there. There are thousands of them. And they'll find the right one that works for you. And again, it's free. Okay, Our friend made one simple 30 minute phone call, no stress, no sales pitch, and walked away, saving thousands with full coverage. And it's not just him. People in this audience have saved thousands working with Chapter. Thank you for, you know, thank you for your emails because we read them. This call is completely free. The average person who works with chapter saves over $1,100. So if you're turning 65 or already on, you know, or already on Medicare, don't wait. Call the number on your screen. Talk to chapter today. That's 202-655-5811 or go to askchapter.org redacted. Well, what the hell is happening in Spain? The mainstream media is worthless. They're 100% ignoring this story. Just go to CNN.com just go to Fox News.com go to any of them. Zero coverage of what's happening right now in Spain. Of course they're hiding it from you on purpose. So just take a look at some of these images. This weekend it all started with elderly Spanish folks getting attacked, beat up by a group of illegal Moroccan gang members. The illegals are now even setting up barricades, blocking streets. It's like they're going to war, taking over the streets, attacking local Spanish citizens. But now the police aren't doing anything about it. So what are the Spanish people doing? They're trying to take their streets back. They're forming their own groups to stop them. Here's. How would you say that? There you go. So this is their group, Spanish patriots taking to the street saying, spain is a Christian country, holding banners for reimmigration and chanting, spain as Christian, not Muslim. Basically, the Spaniards are now pushing for mass deportations. Like, get out of our country. You're ruining our country. Pensioners being attacked, old people being attacked just on their way home from a restaurant. It's an absolute disaster. I like this tweet. This kind of sums it up here. I love this person's screen name, by the way. Cleavage. Cleavage Crumbs. Cleavage Crumbs writes, this is not a breakdown in civility by the Spaniards. This is a reasonable response to continuing and escalating acts of violence by groups of. Let's call them what they are, invaders disrespectful of Spanish culture, religion, and people. These invaders are finally meeting resistance. True resistance can only come from the Spaniards themselves, as their government, so synchronized to the horrendous immigration policies of the eu, do not see the true danger posed by the invaders. The diversity is a strength. Bullshit is being seen for what it is. People unwilling to assimilate, unwilling to accept the culture of the land they are supposedly integrating themselves to, is not immigration. It's an invasion, she says, what do you guys think of this? I mean, Spain is in. Is in deep, deep trouble. I'm not surprised. The mainstream media is totally ignoring the story, of course.
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Natalie Morris
Maybe they just don't want to open up the complication of the Reconquista, that the. That the Moors actually ruled Spain for so many hundreds of years, and then it's coming back full circle. I mean, it's a complicated. You know, are we going to do this?
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Colonel Dan Davis
Yeah, that was.
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Natalie Morris
Go ahead.
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Colonel Dan Davis
That was my thought, was like, the.
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Clayton Morris
Irony didn't get lost on me that.
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Colonel Dan Davis
This is sort of like a.
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Clayton Morris
A reverse crusade.
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Natalie Morris
We're doing this again. Yeah.
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Clayton Morris
Yep.
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Natalie Morris
Okay. And, I mean, there's merit in discussing this, but do we want this blood again? Right? Is this what we need? Or. We had a country. Should we have that still, or what are we doing here?
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Clayton Morris
I'm okay with it. I'm okay with people standing up. I wish, you know, in America, more people would have stood up at our border and said, enough is enough. But we didn't have it. The borders were wide open, and it was facilitated by the Biden administration. And I kept asking him, like, well, where. You know, where are, like the. Where's the trucker? Convoy that we saw in Canada, like a massive trucker convoy at our southern border, saying, enough is enough. We don't want, you know, we don't want these violent criminals here. We don't want our elderly people being beat up by these Moroccan gang members here. Hey, here's an idea. I don't want my grandmother to be raped by a Moroccan gang member. I don't want that. Like, I want to be able to go out to dinner with my family. I want to be able to have, you know, and I want to be. I want the security of my country back and all across Europe, because they've bought into this, like, globalist narrative. I mean, it's happening in Portugal, it's happening in. And, you know, it's happening in Spain, it's happening in Germany, it's happening in France. But of course, the media is, like, hiding it, basically calling them, like, xenophobic. And maybe the worst spot right now is the uk, because a lot of times, you know, they're coming across, they're coming into France, they're coming into Spain, and they might not get the health benefits, they might not get all of the cushy benefits like free housing and things. So then they go across the English Channel and they go into the UK and they're getting all sorts of cushy stuff. So right now, you're seeing an exodus. We ran into a couple of really fantastic people when we were in Scotland the other day. And like Sean, for instance, who walked up to us, and he says, yeah, I got out. I think he said he lived in London somewhere in the uk. Yeah. And he's like, I had to get out and move to the countryside. He's like, it's. It's completely overrun. It's unrecognizable.
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Natalie Morris
Right.
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Clayton Morris
We talked to a nice. We talked to a nice older couple that lived in Nottingham, and they said, we don't recognize our country anymore. Our country has been overrun. And now instead of pensioners being taken care of, you're having these immigrants being given mass amounts of money. And now a bombshell story over the past 24 hours out of the UK about this new data breach you guys hear about. This story shows that the UK government has been secretly sneaking in upwards of 24,000 Afghans after this data breach came forward that kind of revealed their personal information. These were Afghan soldiers who were working with the British government, you know, over the past 20 years in that horrible war. So basically sneaking them into the uk, and now we know that they've been doing this to the tune of 7 billion British pounds. And they kept it hidden from the UK's residents. Like you don't know about it. The only reason we now know about it is because this story leaked and because the data breach happened. So so far, apparently they brought in about 4,000 of these Afghans. 20,000 still ready to come in to a country that's already at its breaking point. And by the way, I find this incredibly hypocritical when you think about Keir Starmer. So he's a liar because he knew about this, he knew about this plan to bring in these Afghans, but here he was on social media a few months ago telling us that we have to close our border down, we have to protect our people.
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Natalie Morris
Yeah. Feigned outrage while acting exactly opposite of what he was.
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Clayton Morris
So he's a liar. Shocking, I know. Anyway, here's the Sky News report this morning as they were breaking this story. Watch. To bring you now, thousands of people are being relocated to the UK after personal data leak of Afghan citizens. Thousands will be relocated to the United Kingdom. It's part of a secret £850 million scheme set up after a personal data leak. It's of Afghans who supported British forces. We can report this to you now that the data set contained the personal information of nearly 19,000 people who had applied for the Afghan Relocations and assistance policy ARUP. It was released in error in February 2022 by a defense official. The breach resulted in the creation of a secret Afghan relocation scheme. It's called the Afghanistan Response Route. It was developed in April 2024. The scheme, it's understood, has cost around 400 million pounds so far. It's projected to cost once it's completed, around £850 million. And of course there will be the legal costs and compensations to come too. So it's expected millions of pounds will be paid out in that.
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Natalie Morris
Now, you notice when you visit the UK that any native born UK citizen is struggling. It's really expensive there and the government continues to make any kind of investment unaffordable and unattainable. And so you are always going to be a slave to that government that will not act, actually advocate for you. And so it's natural to ask, why is it easier for recent immigrants and refugees from other countries when we have to work late, we get no social benefits. We're pensioners, as they call themselves, and their lives are harder. And as we were discussing this with a couple from the UK who were, you know, still working age but elderly and they had Younger daughters. And they started to talk about, well, immigration is a problem. And their daughters were like, oh, let's racist, let's, let's not.
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Clayton Morris
And I thought, don't talk about this.
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Natalie Morris
You two are useful idiots. You are the ones who are manipulated by the mainstream media to think that the hard work of your father and his taxes that go into supporting other people is a racist thing to discuss. So they have been told that because dad is concerned about this, but he's worked so hard, that makes him a racist. And they have basically swallowed that bait hook Lang and Sinker, making them these probably well intentioned young people who have not worked decades in their lives and will probably care about this once they have. And I thought, you don't realize that you two are media tropes. You make yourself look so stupid by shooting down the experienced person who has legitimate concerns. I just felt so sorry for them to be a pawn of a media narrative. It just, you know, like this working class dad who has worked to support his kids, who is being told he's hateful in front of strangers. I couldn't take it.
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Clayton Morris
Well, also this guy, I mean, this guy was paying for their dinner too. So, you know, he's the father who took these kids on a vacation. They were like traveling at the time. So I'm sure the father was paying for this trip. And on top of that, I overheard the daughter talking about how she, you know, she's been trying out using only fans as a way in order to like.
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Natalie Morris
No, she didn't.
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Clayton Morris
Yes she did. That's just like a little side nugget. So you want to talk about like a media trope. Like she's, she's complaining about her dad who's upset about how his country has changed and she's like talking about how she's going to become a streamer and start trying only fans.
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Natalie Morris
Yeah, I missed that part.
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Clayton Morris
Well, it helps them.
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Natalie Morris
She was with her lesbian partner.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah.
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Natalie Morris
And that's what they're up to.
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Clayton Morris
But anyway, it wasn't just this couple. I mean, we talked to a lot of different people and they're saying the same things all across the UK right now. It's a, it's an unrecognizable. It's unrecognizable. So so many of them are moving out to the country, trying to, you know, get a better life. And it's, the cities are overrun. Whether it's Edinburgh to London, it's, you know, it's unrecognizable. So again, I think it's unbelievable. And here's one of the benefits of that is rapes. This new statistics out here we have the brand new statistics for 2025. These are the rape statistics by country. And you'll notice the United Kingdom is now the European leader in rapes. 73,000 a year. Unbelievable. You're wondering, oh, there's the United States over there in dark blue, like, what's the U.S. i was talking about Europe specifically, but you can see France. But here's the US 141,000. So we still lead in rapes, but United Kingdom, 73,000. A tiny little country territory there the size of like New Jersey has that high. It's unbelievable.
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Natalie Morris
You know, it's Scotland. The sun never goes down. How do you rape someone in broad daylight?
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Clayton Morris
I don't know if they're in Scotland specifically that. I mean, I just think maybe in the dark. Yeah, I guess. I don't know. That's a good question.
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Natalie Morris
You would think that that's a crime of the night.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah.
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Natalie Morris
And that maybe you'd be a little safer in the summer.
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Clayton Morris
I mean, it is still.
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Natalie Morris
I haven't thought through how to go.
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Clayton Morris
About the time of the day committing this crime, but. Yeah, but I mean, you know, happens like. Oh, yeah, but I mean, goes down.
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James Robbins
And the majority of.
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Clayton Morris
The majority of rapes aren't getting grabbed by a stranger. That's actually like a fairly rare occurrence. It's usually, you know, like on dates or things like that where it's going to happen. So it's usually somebody they know. So it's, you know, daylight. Doesn't mind matter. Remind. Yeah, Philip, you and I. Remind. Remind us. It's note to self, like, let's not go on dates in the uk okay.
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Natalie Morris
Okay. The both of you. To keep yourself safe.
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Clayton Morris
We're going to keep ourselves. I got you covered. I got you covered.
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Natalie Morris
Okay.
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Clayton Morris
All right. We take some of your super chats here in a second.
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Natalie Morris
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Clayton Morris
It.
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Natalie Morris
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Clayton Morris
Thank you for your two pounds. Super chat says most Republicans were against this bill.
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James Robbins
Yeah.
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Clayton Morris
Against the Epstein or the Big beautiful bill.
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Colonel Dan Davis
Right?
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Clayton Morris
Yeah, I guess.
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Natalie Morris
Well, yeah, the big beautiful bill. You would think.
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Clayton Morris
I think. Yeah, I guess you would think that. Or unless that thing, the Epstein thing. Yeah.
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Natalie Morris
In the newsletter today, which I hope you're subscribed to, this is something that we write as a companion to this show. You can find it at redacted.inc the newsletter. Today we talked about the Wharton School of Business, which is a bipartisan think tank, and the way that they break down the big beautiful bill is damning. So seek that out either in the newsletter or through the Wharton School of Business themselves. It's a really interesting subscribe to their newsletter too. You get a lot of really bipartisan ways to look at the economy. It just feels like the big beautiful bill was the infrastructure bill in red. That's how it feels to me.
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Clayton Morris
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