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Clayton
Welcome everybody to redacted on this Tuesday. So glad to see everybody here. We got a very busy show for you today as we talk about the Iran war and the very latest moves. We heard from President Trump yesterday saying, you know, this thing is very close
Natalie
to complete, we're almost done, we want a few more wins and then, you know, kind of like a buffet, like just maybe one more round and then we're going to be done.
Clayton
Well, that's what he says. But then of course, Iran on their side saying, no, no, no, we're not done, we're not negotiating and we will have an eye for an eye. And reports are that the IRGC is ramping up for a massive attack. So what will phase two look like? We're going to unpack all of this, plus the American war wounded. Well, we now got a report from the Pentagon confirming what we first reported here yesterday on Redacted. We'll tell you about that.
Natalie
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Natalie
Well, I guess Fox News likes to support the troops until they get hurt.
Clayton
So Reuters comes out and reports this exclusive. As many as 150 US troops wounded so far in Iran war. They just published this Today, this Morning, March 10th. That's remarkable. Exclusive. Just curious how that's an exclusive when we reported it yesterday. Yesterday. Whatever. Hey, Reuters, bite me. Anyway, this war is clearly not winding down, no matter what the messaging says. President Trump is saying the war could end very soon. But Iran says talks with the United States are off the table for now, that Tehran is prepared to keep striking as long as it takes. And they're vowing an eye for an eye. So what does an eye for an eye actually mean? Well, that's a great question. Does it mean you, hey, you killed our leader, we kill yours. Does it mean, hey, you killed all these girls who were the daughters of members of the Iranian navy at a girls school? Do we also do that to you? Like, what does actually an eye for an eye actually mean?
Natalie
Does it mean we took out your water infrastructure or you took out ours? So we do that. Your gas infrastructure, civilian infrastructure, that's a war crime. But we did it.
Clayton
Your oil infrastructure, we do that. Like, what exactly does that look like? Meanwhile, the Strait of Hormuz is getting worse by the minute. US Intelligence tracking Iranian military mine laying threats now as Gulf energy infrastructure there is taking a major hit with about 1.9 million barrels per day of refining capacity across Bahrain, Iraq, Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the UAE all down. CBS now says shipping through the Strait of Hormuz has ground to a virtual halt. Nothing getting through. That's of just a few minutes ago. And Israel is hammering Beirut's southern suburbs and Lebanon. So they've essentially invaded Lebanon. It's a shitstorm. And then there's the neocon political class in Washington saying the quiet part out loud. Senator Lindsey Graham, your favorite warmonger, is now openly talking about, you know, going back to South Carolina to tell the sons and daughters in South Carolina, you know, you got to send your loved ones to the Middle East. That's what I'm doing here in South Carolina. I gotta tell them to go fight in the Middle East. And he's calling on other Middle east countries that have been sitting on the fence that we've supported over the years as allies. Get off the fence. Go bomb Iran. Help out with Iran. And oh, by the way, Spain, we're pissed off at you because you don't want us using your air bases or airspace to bomb Iran.
Lindsey Graham
Listen up to our allies. Step up. Get our air bases out of Spain. They're not reliable. Move all those airplanes to a country that would let us use them when we're threatened by a regime like Iran. To our friends in Spain, man, you have lost your way. I don't want to do business with you anymore. I want our basesour air bases out of Spain into a country that will let us use them to our Arab friends. I've tried to help you construct a new Mideast. You need to up your game here. I can't go to South Carolina and say we're fighting. And you won't publicly fight. What you're doing behind the scenes, that has to stop. The double dealing of the Arab world when it comes to this stuff needs to end. I go back to South Carolina, I'm asking them to send their sons and daughters over to the Mid East. What I want you to do in the Mideast. Our friends in Saudi Arabia and other places step forward and say, this is my fight too. I join America, I'm publicly involved in bringing this regime down. If you don't, you're making a great mistake and you're going to cut off the ability to have a better relationship with the United States. I say this as a friend.
Natalie
Ugh, he's an odious friend.
Clayton
Say this as a friend.
Philip (alternate commentary)
Pick up a Gun and go fight yourself, you coward. Yeah, I freaking hate that. But just calling so like bluntly for somebody else to go die for his stupid cause, Go fight it yourself.
Clayton
I would love that.
Natalie
Right. And I am so curious about this. I mean he's a liar, but how many people in South Carolina are really walking up to him and saying, who are we gonna get to fight with us? Who are we gonna get to fight Iran? Worried about this? My son can go, but who's going with him? Let's make some war play dates. Who does that?
Clayton
Larry Johnson is a former CIA analyst, NRA gun trainer and he's been looking at all of this and doing some incredible writing over at his website, Sonar21. Larry, thank you for joining us. Great to see you back on the show.
Larry Johnson
Hi guys, good to see you.
Clayton
So I want to talk about the American war wounded first because I know that this is near and dear to your heart and of course something that you've been watching closely and the lies of course that are coming out about this again, I spoke to sources over the past 48 hours that were telling us here at redacted about 137Americans wounded. And then the Pentagon comes out and then confirms about 140. So right, pretty much right on the nose. And does that number sound low to you or does that sound about right?
Larry Johnson
It sounds a little low. So on March 4, let's go to Germany. Stuttgart, just north west of Germany there is a hospital called Landstuhl Regional Medical Center. Landstuhl's primary mission is to handle American war wounded. On March 4th they issued a memo telling all the pregnant women that were about to give birth that, sorry, don't come here, we're not birthing any more babies. We gotta focus on our main mission. So that was the first clue that there was a lot of casualties inbound. I know without mentioning his name, somebody who was involved dealing with the combat casualties during the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. And he dealt with the personnel at Landstuhl and he called, called someone up and said, I can't say anything but there's a lot of casualties. Then 13 miles to the east of Landstuhl is an army base called Kaiserslautern. Kaiserslautern in the stars and Stripes issued for that base had an appeal, a blood drive appeal. Hey, we need lots of people to show up and donate blood. So those. That was on March 5th. So I wrote about this March 6th. I wrote about this four days ago that yeah, we had a lot more casualties and more and there are More coming because Iran's not going to stop. You know, this right now, we're getting signals that the Trump administration is reaching out, trying to, oh, hey, let's, let's talk. Let's talk cease fire. Iran's having none of it. Not. They've been betrayed twice by Donald Trump and his group of clowns.
Clayton
Right.
Larry Johnson
And so they're not running. Saying no, no, they've got the world by the testicles is the polite way of saying it. Withholding the Straits of Hormu, the Strait of Hormuz, they've shut down the movement of not only oil, liquid natural gas. They're the supplier of about 25%, 25 to 30% of the world's liquid natural gas and about 30%, 30 to 35% of the world's urea, which is used for fertilizer. Now, that may not, I just learned that that may not be as important as I once thought it was because most of it comes out of Oman. Oman, you don't have to worry about things going through the Strait of Hormuz. But on oil and liquid natural gas, huge. 94% of the Philippines depended upon the flow of gas, both liquid and the petroleum oil out of the Persian Gulf. India, 80%, Japan, South Korea. So this is going to have a major impact on certain economies in the world. Now there I've said this ironically, I think Vladimir Putin sitting there going, maybe Donald Trump really does like me. Because what he's done is he's making Russia rich again in a way. I mean, they're getting, you know, they were selling, they were forced to sell their oil previously under sanctions at like $55 a barrel. Now they're getting 88, $90 a barrel.
Clayton
Well, and they just opened it up to India. I mean, that story over the past 48 hours, like, so they, the United States has eased its restriction on Russian oil flowing to India. I mean, talk about an absolute disaster.
Larry Johnson
Well, yeah, remember what had happened there is India was playing a double game, too. You know, brics. India is the eye in brics and Iran is the new eye in brics. And so what was India doing? Well, India was pretending to play along with the United States, but then going to Russia and saying, hey, Russia, yeah, we'll buy, we'll buy your oil, but we need a discount because we're going against the sanctions and we need to cover ourselves. So Russia said, okay, as a BRICS partner, we'll let you have it at 55, you know, is normally selling 59. They let him have for 55 barrel dollars a barrel. So they got a discount.
Natalie
So. Oh, sorry, go ahead. No, please finish.
Larry Johnson
So now when all of a sudden the oil tap is turned off, including the liquid natural gas, India goes running back to Russia. Now, remember on February 25 and 26, and India was in Israel, buttering up the rear end of Bibi Netanyahu, kissing rear end all they could. Oh, man, it was a love fest. Were partners with Israel and then Israel attacks their BRICS partner. And what does India say? Nothing. Zero. They don't say a thing about the murdered girls. So now all of a sudden, the oil's turned off. It's nine days now with no oil coming out of there for India. They go running back to Russia. Hey, buddy, let's, let's get back together. And Russia says, sure, that's great, but it's going to cost you $89 now a barrel. No more friends and family program. You're going to get market conditions. And so, so Russia's, Russia's playing some diplomatic hardball, but, you know, being friendly about it. But they sent India a message on this. India, of all the countries in the world right now that are most damaged by this war, it will be India and its economy.
Natalie
Now, I want to ask you about President Trump responding to CBS News reports that there may be mines in the Strait of Hormuz. That doesn't make a ton of sense. He says, we have no indication that they did, but they better not. But they are picking and choosing who gets to go through and their allies can go through. So why would they mind their allies? What do we make of this? Do we need to respond to this at all?
Larry Johnson
Yeah, I don't think they've done it yet. But let's recall the last time Iran mined the Persian Gulf, they didn't mine the Strait of Hormuz. They mined farther up. It was 1987, 1988. Why did they do that? Well, in September of 1980, when Jimmy Carter and Zbigniew Brzezinski were still in office, the United States encouraged a guy named Saddam Hussein. Don't know if you've ever heard of him, but they encouraged Saddam Hussein to launch a war against Iran. And then Ronald Reagan comes in with Donald Rumsfeld and Cap Weinberger and by 1983 had provided chemical weapons or the precursors that Iraq needed to build chemical weapons. And Iraq started using chemical weapons against Iran in 1983 and continued to do it in 84, 85, 86. During that entire time, Iran never retaliated with chemical weapons. They were not going because they saw it as an act against God. They were serious about the religion. So 87, 88, they go to mine. They start dropping mines there in the Persian Gulf. Well, at that time, they didn't have all these missiles. So the United States Navy, a Navy seal, a good friend of mine, set up what was called the Hercules barge. And he had a Navy SEAL unit with him. And they fought off attacks by Iranian gunboats. He had some little bird helicopters from the 160th, the Special Operations Wing of the Air Force. And we ended up disrupting the Iranian plan to mine the Gulf back then. Well, we couldn't do that today. We do not have that capability because Iran would blow us out of the water with drones and with missiles, as we've seen has been happening over the last 10 days. So the United States would be in a real pickle. I agree with you, Natalie, that I don't, I don't think Iran's ready to start laying mines because they've got standoff weapons. They've got shore to ship missiles they can fire. They've got drones that they can fire. So they don't. They're not in a situation where they need to close it off so that nobody can get out. Because just yesterday, Arachi, it was either Arachi or Ali Larajani, announced that any country that would expel the United States and Israel, diplomats and military from their country, they'd get free passage, they'd get to take all the oil out they wanted.
Natalie
Well, I guess, I mean, the president is responding to reports from CBS News and he's saying the military hasn't told me this. I just wonder, and I'm spitballing here, who at CBS News might feed him this kind of intelligence given that CBS is run by a proxy of the Mossad?
Larry Johnson
I'm just curious, Barry Wise, by chance. Oh, my.
Natalie
I'm suggesting exactly that. And I have no intelligence, but it would make ideological sense to me.
Clayton
We are cynical bastards around here, Larry.
Larry Johnson
Actually, Danley, you have a lot of intelligence connecting those dots.
Natalie
Thank you.
Larry Johnson
Got a lot of stupid people in Washington that aren't connecting those dots. You know, we're seeing, I've seen all the Washington symptoms and signs that they get a little nervous in the service here. The other day, they leaked out the results of the National Intelligence Council memo or assessment that had been prepared prior to the war warning, you're not going to get regime change out of Iran. Now, normally that remains secret. It's top secret, but that got leaked. And why did that get leaked because the intelligence community is now positioning itself saying when this thing turns, you know, turns into a floating turd, it's not our fault. You know, we told you not to do it. You did it. General Raisin Cain, Dan Kaine, he did the same thing after they tried to talk Trump out of doing this. And you know, one of his underlings went out and talked to three different media outlets. So you can tell things are start starting to come apart at the seams because this war is not working out as they planned. And the bottom line is this. They're wanting Iran to agree to some deal to cease fire Iran, mark my words, Iran is not going to agree to a cease fire. They're going to keep this war going until at some point, such point, the United States will negotiate with them and end all sanctions on Iran at a minimum.
Clayton
I want to ask you this, Larry. Reports from inside the Trump administration that there are war hawks inside the Trump administration that desperately want to take the island of Kharg.
Larry Johnson
I hope they're the first ones on the boat.
Clayton
Yeah, exactly. So let's just lay this out for our audience. Here's a picture of this island. Now for those in our audience that don't know, this is arguably one of the most important pieces of land in the world. This is where 90% of all the oil flows from Iran is out of Kharg Island. 90%. And I had to, when I saw those statistics over the past 48 hours, I had to do a double take and confirm 90% of all the Iranian oil flows from this little island, this airfield. To my mind, it's only about four, I think, four miles, four miles long, four miles long, two miles wide. And there are, and it's, and it is difficult to defend from an American perspective. So there are those in the Trump administration who want to take this piece of land from which to be able to launch attacks to prevent any oil flows out of the Strait of Hormuz into the rest of the world. This sounds like an absolute disaster if the Americans tried to take this. But what do you think about this?
Larry Johnson
Oh, yeah. I hope that the ones that advocate that put them in uniform, put them at the front of the front of the column. They go in first because, you know, they forget that one of the largest producers of drones in the world, one of the innovators, is Iran. And Iran got its drones thanks to the CIA. Most people don't know that, you know, that famous triangle drone we've been looking at, Iran brought one of those down 12 years ago, and then they copied it. And that was a CIA drone at the time. CIA was sort of the leader in it. So once, once you get US Troops on that island, they're not going to have any cover. They're not going to have time to build shelter, you know, that would resist all these drones. I mean, Iran wouldn't have to land troops on Kharg island to take it back. All they'd have to do is kill them with drones, as we've seen in the war in Ukraine. For God's sake. Are these people not paying attention? I mean, really, I'm insulted by the level of stupidity it is.
Clayton
Well, we've heard from the Trump administration the surprise about being like, attacking our military bases in the region. Like, where did the surprise come from? You've been on our show for three years talking about if we attack each other, Iran A B is what is going to happen. They are going to attack our military that are stationed in Bahrain, in Qatar and these other locations. And that's exactly what happened.
Natalie
And especially given the rhetoric of US War hawks in power for three decades, like, yes, they kind of had to prepare all of this time. Did we think that they weren't paying attention when we said it to the world?
Larry Johnson
Well, when we're writing our own press clippings and then reading them, there is a tendency to say, God, I am great. Can you see this, how good we are? So they really believed that our air defense, the Patriot air defense systems and the THAAD systems would be. They could shut down the Iranian missiles and drones. And what they discovered was, nope, they didn't work. And they worked at an even lower level than, you know, Pentagon kept over shooting down 90%. You know, they got, they got the same guy that's writing the press clippings for the Ukrainians now working for him. Yeah, we always get 90%. The reality was within four days, these two critical radars, one is called a. I think it was called a type. Tipsy was the nickname for it. And the other One was an FPS. One of them cost 500.
Natalie
Is that us or is that him?
Philip
That's just him. That's actually him, not us.
Natalie
Oh, not our Internet. Okay, so we're still live.
Clayton
All right, we're sorry. We'll try to get Larry back here and see if he comes back. Yeah, we'll try to get Larry back on here. Oh, there he is. Okay, so, Larry, you were just talking about the destruction of these two advanced US Radars. One is the FPS and the other is the TPS Typ.
Larry Johnson
I think it was. And so.
Clayton
I think Larry frozen up again. Okay, we'll see if we can get Larry to reconnect here. But yeah, I want to follow up with Larry on this point because what he's talking about is the loss of these high value assets and how difficult these things are to replace. I want to follow up with him and ask him more about these US military outlets and outposts and bases that were hit and destroyed. And of course now the damage is being hidden from the American people. And this could be a major reason why the United States is sort of backpedaling here and trying to ask for a ceasefire and some sort of agreement because all of these bases have been destroyed and the satellite imagery companies that were responsible for providing satellite imagery about above these bases on a regular basis have now gone dark. So that we're not allowed to see the imagery coming out of these bases that were destroyed.
Natalie
Yeah, exactly.
Philip (alternate commentary)
I'd also like to point out as far as that Kharg Island. I mean, I'm no military strategist or anything like that, but that's within artillery range because it's only like 16 miles off the coast. Which means like no matter how sophisticated their, their anti missile capabilities are, there's nothing to stop them just lining up a battery of artillery and just firing from the coast.
Clayton
Right.
Philip (alternate commentary)
So like how.
Clayton
All right, Larry's back. We were just talking about Carg Island, Larry. Philip was bringing up a great point about the, how close it is for artillery strikes. I mean you're, you're literally right there.
Larry Johnson
Yeah. You know, the, these radar were critical for detecting launches of missiles and determining also maritime threats to our ships. Those are down now. That's why Israel is now only getting a minute warning. It used to get a 15 to 30 minute warning. Hey, they're inbound missiles. Now they're only getting a minute, which will increase the likelihood.
Natalie
Well, we feel a little better that it's not us today with the Internet attacks. But you know, he, he had said some things that hopefully we all learned from quite a bit it.
Larry Johnson
Yeah.
Natalie
The minds and all right.
Clayton
Things. Larry, we got you back. Oh, there we go. A little bit.
Larry Johnson
Yeah.
Ben Swan
Okay.
Larry Johnson
Sorry, I'm getting attacked. That's all the, you know, I never had these problems. So the words getting out as far, look, we're in trouble in Iran and the bottom line is this, we're not going to get out of this easily.
Clayton
Yeah, Larry, we understand. We had a big attack on our network here yesterday. Caused our whole show to go down as we were reporting on the American wounded numbers. So, yeah, this is happening in real time. They do not want this information out. Let's see if we got you for a few more seconds. How bad? Before they cut you off again. How bad is the infrastructure attacks on American bases? There's been a total blackout.
Larry Johnson
Yeah, no, it's significant. We can't deploy troops there to have them safely there. So they got very, very limited presence. The Fifth Fleet in Bahrain, that facility is destroyed. Al Udid. The other critical one was Al Udid, where the Combined Air Operations center is located. What's known as the Chaok, that combined all that took matter and supervised all air operations throughout the region.
Natalie
Well, well, this actually is a good opportunity to tell you about the Trump administration and their new. What are they calling it? The cyber strategy. So it feels like this could be part of it. I'm not saying it is, but the Trump administration actually says that they will be targeting cultural subversion and propaganda. Okay. Our narrative here is not aligned with their propaganda, so maybe. Right. We don't know. We're gonna look at the document in just a second and we want to thank Larry for being here with us.
Clayton
Yeah, thanks to Larry for that. So I just will say, you know, speaking to.
Larry Johnson
I'm back, I'm back. And thank you. Sorry again. I know it's frustrating for the audience.
Natalie
It happens. It's more frustrating for you. We really appreciate your expertise.
Clayton
No, our audience is understanding and they're forgiving because they. They know, they know, they understand. So, Larry, thank you so much for this and thank you for telling the truth.
Larry Johnson
Yeah, keep. Keep you guys a prize. Stay well.
Clayton
All right. Thanks, Larry. Great talking with you.
Natalie
It is incredibly frustrating Clayton turns into the Incredible Hulk. It's just, you know, we work so hard on this, but we thank you for your.
Clayton
Well, I mean, if we were, you know, if we were the mainstream media, if we had, you know, if we were CNN or if we were any of those, that we wouldn't get these types, you know, of attacks. And so, you know, if we were spinning this yarn and narrative, then we wouldn't have to worry about that.
Natalie
Yes, but relevant to what we're gonna talk about is the new cyber strategy, which I think is a Trojan horse for eroding civil rights. But we're gonna take a look together. You decide if I'm being hysterical. I'm a woman sometimes I am. Right, darling?
Clayton
No.
Natalie
No comment.
Clayton
No, never. Never hysterical. Always even keeled.
Natalie
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Clayton
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Natalie
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Natalie
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Clayton
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Natalie
the Trump administration launched a cyber strategy recently because of the war with Iran. And what worries me as usual, is that war is usually a Trojan horse for government power expansion. How can this further erode our civil rights? So let's take a look at the parts of this plan that gave me heartburn. And then we will decide collectively. Are we overreacting or are we about to get censored on the Internet? Here's the document published late last week. The White House says that this is to protect. Protect the US from cyber crimes. Specifically, they're saying they will unveil an embarrassed online espionage, destructive propaganda and influence operations and cultural subversion. Okay. In my view, the government is guilty of the worst propaganda around this war right now as we speak. So really, are they the ones to be policing propaganda? And also, propaganda is legal. If I want to tell everybody to become a Muslim or whatever, I can do it. I'm an American. I can say whatever I want. You decide if that's propaganda. It's my right to cultural subversion also. That gives me pause. Here's one example of cultural subversion that I absolutely support. Now, this is a satire X account, so it can't be verified, but according to this document, even if this were true, that military officials are saying that their soldiers are yelling for Epstein while they're training, like, you know, the Gen Z craze or Gen Alpha 6, 7. Okay, this could, because of this document, be labeled cultural subversion. We want a war, the culture must support it. Any kind of subversion of government narrative would count it in my reading of it. Ben Swan joins us. He's been reporting on government censorship war powers for quite some time. Really good to see you again, sir. What is your take on this cyber plan and how it might affect everyday Americans?
Ben Swan
Yeah, thanks for having me on, guys. Well, I think a couple of things. First of all, you know, anytime that you start to see government talking about censorship or online activities or propaganda again, you know, I think you're making the point, calling the kettle black here, because obviously governments are the biggest purveyors of propaganda that exist. However. However, what I would say in this case is that I actually was. Was kind of glad to see some of the language that was in here because the Trump administration, I got a lot of criticisms. I mean, I can. I can go on and on. You don't even have enough time in your show to hit all those criticisms, especially over the last couple of months. However, one thing that this administration, I believe has done a good job of is standing up for free speech rights and dismantling a lot of the apparatus that was in place, especially under the Biden administration. But even before that, it was a growing apparatus of censorship. Trump administration has done a good job of battling that. Now, in this case, the language that they use here is that they will unveil and embarrass. Okay, they didn't say that they're going to prosecute, lock people up, throw people in prison. They're going to fine them. They Said unveil and embarrass. In the event that there are organized campaigns online that are not grassroots, that are being funded by outside groups or foreign governments. I don't know that it's a terrible thing that the government say, hey, we're going to point out that this is not authentic, this is not grassroots. And embarrass. Okay, you can embarrass people by saying, you know, these groups are working together, or this is clearly not, again, authentic or grassroots. If that is as far as it goes, I actually think that's a huge victory in terms of the way that government would be rolling back and walking away from some of where we were headed over the last couple of decades.
Clayton
How do you blow the lines seem to me pretty blurry though between like satire and, and as they say, low cost AI, and who's to say, like, I create like an X account that like makes fun of whatever and I put out like low cost AI and it's satirical. It's not grassroots. Is it now the government's responsibility to step in and like blow the whistle on me? Like, you know, or is it only for responsibility?
Ben Swan
No, I agree with you on that. This is not the government's job. Right. And it should not be a use of government dollars to say we need to figure out what is and what's not. And by the way, I think Community Notes does a much better job of that than government would anyways. Right? Whenever you have that hive mind of people who say an X has done a good job with this, you put Community Notes and say, by the way, now this isn't authentic. I'll give you an example that, that I don't think that this cybersecurity task force would go after though, is for instance, just what, a week ago or so when Candace Owens decided she was gonna put out her expose on Erica Kirk, Bride of Charlie. And then all of a sudden, the day her trailer dropped, all these right wing influencers all started saying the same thing, that she was demonic, she's evil. That's inauthentic. That's propaganda. Under this definition, it would say, right,
Clayton
well, they go after those guys because these are all like friends. These are all like MAGA friends. These are like the, you know, the inner circle, like the Laura Loomer types, the mark. These are all like that little inner circle. So will their little office of cybersecurity now go after those people?
Ben Swan
I don't know. And embarrass? Yeah, they do that. I don't know that they will now. Maybe they Will, but I seriously doubt it. I think the bigger issue is this. Whenever you were creating bureaucracy, bureaucracy needs a reason to exist. Therefore, if you create a bureaucracy, that sole job is to find propaganda or bad actors or inauthentic movements. Guess what? They're going to find them. Whether they're there or not, they're going to find them because their very existence depends on it being there. I think we saw this happen, especially over the last decade with all the Russia stuff, right? One of the fastest growing parts of the bureaucracy in terms of Farah enforcement, in terms of watching out for foreign actors of foreign entities. And why do they focus so much on Russia? Well, because they needed to find something. And so they spent a decade building these crazy cases about how the Russians were doing everything to the point where even now, Senator Richard Blumenthal, even today comes out and says, talking about Iran, he's talking about the United States, he's talking about war. And he had to bring up, oh, by the way, the Russians are doing this and that. Oh, my gosh, here we go again.
Natalie
Right.
Ben Swan
So it's just fascinating to me, but I don't think, I don't think there is an authentic move here by any bureaucracy to really say, listen, the truth is we found out we're not really necessary. This isn't really happening. And so you can do away with us if you want. They will justify their existence. And I don't think that's good for Americans.
Natalie
Right? So take a look at what FBI cash, FBI Director Cash Patel put on X today. He says, okay, we got our marching orders about cyber strategy. Here we go. What bothers me here is we're going to secure emerging technologies. So what does that say to me? What my worry is it there's an. Let's say there's a new AI. It's very forthright, and they can't have that. And it will tell you the truth that Iran never had a nuclear bomb or what have you. And now do we want the government securing emerging technologies? What do you think of that?
Ben Swan
Well, and again, to your point, I mean, what does it even mean? What does it mean, emerging technologies? That's not the government's job. In fact, the whole point of living theoretically, that we live in a capitalist country, we clearly don't. But theoretically, if you did, right, government has no, no say in emerging technologies. And they certainly don't have the right to secure it, unless what you're talking about is securing it from being hacked. But again, that's not a government responsibility. It's not the government's responsibility to protect the private sector from hackers or from ransomware. But the fact that nothing specific is mentioned, I think that to me is the most troubling part. And I was reading through earlier today, Natalie, where you had posted this, right. And I was looking for where's the smoking gun? And what I actually thought was the smoking gun is the fact that there is nothing a smoking gun. There's no gun that hasn't been fired, there's no bullets. There's nothing clear about any of this. It's very generic language. And it's so generic they just use the word cyber a lot. So it's so generic that you don't really know what it's supposed to mean. What concerns me is even if you're a Trump supporter and you say, I don't think the President's gonna use this in a bad way, fine. The problem with this though is you create, again, bureaucracies that are going to move into the next administration, whether it's Republican or Democrat, and a different set of leadership. And so these things always continue to grow.
Natalie
Right? And so when you think about the overly broad language, that's where the government hands itself the ability to do what it wants because of these nebulous terms. Now, when you about think, think about what are the biggest headaches for the war hawks? It's TikTok, it's X, and it's possible some AIs even grok, right? And so if they had secured them when they emerged, they would not have this problem. So maybe they're thinking we get control of the next TikTok, it's secured, we don't have to worry so much. That is 1984 level access in my mind. So that is my worry. I don't see, you know, I see it as a possibility because of the language of this document.
Ben Swan
Well, I would say the bad news, kids, is TikTok is now co. Opted.
Natalie
It's all they have secured that emerging technology.
Ben Swan
Yes, that they did that by claiming that China was a threat. And so they handed it off. Right, to two friendly forces that will enforce what they want. But I will say this. I think there is something interesting about the AI argument, Grox, specifically in the age of this war with Iran, because as you guys know, you know what's so crazy about this war is it's almost impossible to find video, right? There's a war happening on the other side of the world. We don't see almost anything out of Israel. They have it locked down there. It's Very hard to get video. We don't really have clear video of anything that's happened on U.S. bases. We have so many U.S. bases that have been rendered unusable at this point, destroyed. Zero video of this. And so one thing that I have noticed is when I will post a few things that come out, you'll see the people in Iran, for instance. They're massive crowds of people, possibly millions of them turning out, who are now supporting the regime there. Right. They've. All we've really done with this war is cement support for this regime and traded a Khomeini for a Khomeini. But the fascinating part of it is the immediate response from people on my feed will be, oh, you fell for a trick. That's not real, that's AI. One thing that GROK has been able to do is it's able to verify video. So it's doing the opposite of what a lot of AI does, which is we're going to trick you with AI and make you think things are real that are not real. And there's a lot of that out there. But one thing that GROK has been able to do is it verifies, actually, that is real. And for people who are saying, no, no, this isn't real, well, grok's saying it is. And then they're like, well, I don't know, maybe GROK was tricked. So there's this information bias that's there. And I agree with you, there's a goal there to get control of that. Because if you get control of the AI and the way it responds, you can call anything you like fake, and the public will say, see? Can't be trusted.
Clayton
So, Ben, I'm having flashbacks, though, with this cybersecurity infrastructure Task force or whatever the hell it's going to call. I'm reminded of the Disinformation Governance Board, and this is what I'm reminded of, who SHA sits when a huckster takes some lies and makes them sound precocious by saying them in Congress or a mainstream disinformation's origins are slightly less atrocious. Yeah. So I don't know if you remember Nina Jankowicz, the Disinformation Governance Board under the Biden administration. And then, I mean, concerns. Can I remind you that it went nuts.
Philip
That video is forbidden on this channel. I thought Women for Trump and that one.
Clayton
We did. Yeah. We did ban it on the show, but I thought Ben's presence here demanded that we bring it back. Yeah. Am I wrong to have flashbacks about this?
Ben Swan
So I would say this is a very different version of that. When I was trying to describe in the beginning, you know, when you. When you think about what the Biden administration was doing, what Obama was doing, even before that, they were building towards an apparatus that really was a lock you down and jail you for saying the wrong things. That's where we were headed. I don't see this administration moving toward that. But what I'm concerned with is there was such a whiplash reaction to the cringe factor associated with what Nina Jankowicz was doing and what the Biden administration was doing. It was so ridiculous and scary, by the way, because they wanted the power of law enforcement and to lock people up for saying the wrong things. What this might do, it could take us back towards that direction, but the truth is we're never going to stop moving toward that direction. Can we. Can we pull it back and can we create systems where we dismantle a little at a time? I would hope so. I don't think this gets us there. But does it point us back toward that direction in a much more palatable way? Possibly. Possibly. But I really hope that's not the case. Again. I really hope what's happening here is this is more of an effort to say, well, we can. We can point out things that are inauthentic, but again, it's. You know, as a. As a libertarian, I just don't believe that's government's responsibility. It shouldn't be doing that at all.
Clayton
Right at the heart of it. No, you're absolutely right about that. Ben Swan, great to have you here on the show. We know you got to run. Thank you so much. And sorry to make your ears bleed. With a little Nina Jankowitz, I'll be
Ben Swan
stuck in my head for the rest of the day.
Clayton
Sorry about that.
Larry Johnson
Thanks, Ben.
Clayton
All right, see you.
Natalie
Okay, well, let us know what you think of that.
Clayton
All right, we'll take some super chats here in a second. A lot of people. Some people. One person in the chat room says, oh, her chin just waved at me in a Jankowicz. Yeah, she does have a big chin. Did you know that she's.
Philip
I'm going to text every time I start singing that today. Every time I'm texting you. If I start singing it.
Natalie
Text just Clayton, not the group chat.
Clayton
I will send it back to you. I'm going to make a Nina Jenkow. It's meme for you. I know.
Philip
Please.
Clayton
All right, we'll take some super chats here.
Natalie
Hey, I just want to point out the White House has just said that they have destroyed mine lane boats, which is really weird because an hour ago, they said they had no intelligence that there were such boats. So within an hour, not only did I discover that they existed, we also took them.
Larry Johnson
I died.
Philip (alternate commentary)
I thought we had already destroyed their navy. So where are these minelayer boats coming from?
Larry Johnson
Right.
Philip (alternate commentary)
It says, did we destroy their navy? Are they. Are they just that good at riding, rebuilding infrastructure in Iran that we can completely take out their nuclear capabilities, and two weeks later, they've got them right back up again and we can sink their navy, and they can build a whole navy in a week.
Natalie
Right. So the White House just 26 minutes ago said, yeah, we've destroyed a bunch of mine lane boats, but within the hour previous said, we don't know that there are any mines at all. So, gosh, we move fast. That's amazing. It's amazing. From going to not knowing they exist to getting 10 of them within 26 minutes. I mean, that is amazing.
Clayton
Well, I'm gonna go out on a
Philip (alternate commentary)
limb and say that they were. They were probably just boats. And somebody pointed at them and said, does that look like a mine laying boat? And somebody said, it does now.
Philip
Yeah, they're probably fishing boats.
Natalie
Well, I mean, why would a fishing boat. Okay, yeah, sure. I. I'm gonna go on a limb. I don't. I don't agree with Philip. I think none of that happened whatsoever.
Larry Johnson
Yeah.
Clayton
By the way. Right. Yeah.
Philip (alternate commentary)
I mean, the point I'm making is sort of like the. Is sort of like the Gulf of Tonkin where they, like.
Clayton
Yeah.
Philip (alternate commentary)
Where they're just. They're basically there. There was no. There were no mine laying boats. They just probably sank some boats and said, yep, those. That's what those were. No need to verify. Trust me, bro. Yeah, that's what my kind of point was.
Clayton
Well, I mean, apparently he's getting his intelligence, at least Trump is, from Jared Kushner. You know, he's basically telling him that. Jared. I heard this from Jared Kushner. That's. That's why I believe it. Like, that's where his intelligence is coming from.
Natalie
I know.
Philip
Well, and also, remember in Venezuela, we got all those, like, radar videos of every single boat destroyed. Why are we getting none of that now? Like, nothing.
Clayton
Right, right. And why are the American wounded numbers being hidden? And then, you know, again, why, according to this Reuters report, remember when under the Biden administration, a number of those American soldiers were killed in that pier explosion? Well, that was swept up, kept quiet. Why because, you know, Israel's involved in that. I'd like to know about that. Here is this report. Go ahead.
Philip
I was just gonna say, in my opinion, if they had destroyed the Navy, if they had done those things, we'd have seen it. Which tells me they probably haven't, because we haven't seen it. Because, like, they're going to show us their victories.
Natalie
Sure.
Philip
They're definitely not going to show us our losses. And we've need. We've seen nothing. So. Yeah, that speaks volumes.
Clayton
Take a look at this. This is a reporter. I want to play this sound bite here. This brave reporter. You just suggested that Iran somehow got its hands on a Tomahawk and bombed its own elementary school on the first
Larry Johnson
day of the war.
Clayton
But you're the only person in your government saying this. Even your defense secretary wouldn't say that when he was asked, standing over your shoulder on your plane on Saturday. Why are you the only person saying this?
Larry Johnson
Because I just don't know enough about it. I think it's something that I was told is under investigation. But Tomahawks are used by others. As you know, numerous other nations have Tomahawks. They buy them from us. But I will certainly, whatever the report shows, I'm willing to live with that report. Yeah, please.
Clayton
You just suggested that. So that's a brave reporter. As Glenn Greenwald said.
Natalie
He's a New York Times reporter.
Clayton
Yeah.
Natalie
Color me surprised.
Clayton
That's surprising. And his name is Sean McCrach. And. And Glenn Greenwald said, hey, thanks for actually doing journalism. Confronting a political leader with the evidence that negates that politician's false claim, forcing him to retreat from it. Yeah, we need to do more of this. But of course, you have this mockingbird media that surrounds the president, doesn't question him about anything like the mine laying boats. And why are we being hidden? Why are we not getting wounded numbers and the American dead numbers? Why are you keeping that from us? And no one's asking this question. I mean, we did yesterday on the street show. I'm still pretty furious about it. Kind of chapped about it. We reported it yesterday on the show. And then after that, the Pentagon acknowledges it. And then Reuters runs a report saying that exclusive. The Pentagon now confirms the wounded numbers. Okay, but where is the rest of the media? Why does it take, like, a little dinky show like ours to ask questions like that? It's infuriating, right?
Natalie
Exactly.
Clayton
I mean, where is the press? Where is the press that's sitting in that Pentagon room, like, asking these questions? They all want access. It's access journalism. So they don't wanna rub people the wrong way because they wanna have that press badge that allows them to get into the Pentagon. I'm a Pentagon reporter. You have to do your effing job. Yeah, like this reporter.
Philip
I'll bet we don't see his face in there again.
Clayton
Right?
Natalie
Good point. We'll see about that. And you know, it does feel very purposeful that the Pentagon cleaned house before they launched a major world war. In the press room.
Clayton
Monty Knight, thank you for your chat here. Says Monty Knight says not a dinky show. Clayton, thank you. Appreciate it. Well, I know, but I mean, compared to like, you know, like the money that like, the New York Times has or like all of these big apparatus, you know, we're just a. We're a small fish in that pond, to be sure.
Philip (alternate commentary)
Yep.
Natalie
Clayton does his own hair and makeup.
Clayton
That's right. I don't do any makeup, as you can tell. That's why I look like this, Like I just got beat up.
Larry Johnson
Okay.
Natalie
Hey, they used to make him wear makeup at Fox. Oh, yeah, he was a big baby about it.
Clayton
Used to cover me in that crap.
Natalie
They would use like a cake airbrusher. Anyway, he doesn't do that anymore.
Clayton
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Larry Johnson
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Natalie
All right. Well, we're gonna take a few super chats before we say goodbye. We will be back tomorrow. And should we tell them we have a big guest this week or.
Clayton
No, not yet. We'll let the cat out of the bag on Wednesday.
Natalie
We have a big guest coming up for you on Thursday, someone you're gonna like. I think that's all I'm gonna say.
Clayton
Yeah.
Natalie
Should we give. I'll give you a hint.
Clayton
Nope, I won't user Pepe says, haha, Clayton wears makeup like a girl.
Natalie
Haha.
Clayton
No, I don't. I don't wear. I don't wear any makeup. I don't wear anyway makeup at all. But when I worked at Fox, they used to. They used to do that.
Natalie
They made him.
Clayton
Yeah. All right, let's put this up here. All right. Four trees. Thank you for your two dollar super chat. Says this administrative, the, this administration, FBI is harassing people for online Israel posts. Yeah, they are. They're showing up at people's houses because you can't. You, you absolutely can't talk about our greatest ally and greatest friend.
Natalie
Well, we saw that very early with pro Palestinian people being deported who were legal residents inside the United States. So we had warning. We had fair warning. Thank you so much for Sultan Sierra 11. I love this show. We love you. Thank you so much for being here. Barbie is back. Thank you both for all you do. Thank you so much for being here. We appreciate it.
Clayton
So this was in reference to. Is Iran saying that we will attack and have an eye for an eye in our response to what the US And Israel are doing. And snow flakes as an eye for an eye means the world goes blind.
Natalie
Yeah, exactly.
Clayton
That's what I'm worried about.
Natalie
All right. And a gift membership. Thank you so much for. From gifting memberships. Yeah, thank you for doing that.
Clayton
Jimmy Faces. Clayton, lend me a couple thousand.
Natalie
Well, you can make it on Connect Invest, I suppose.
Clayton
Yeah. Awesome show as always. Fun chat. Nad's out. Nad Lander. Nad Lander says Nad's out.
Natalie
All right, well, Nat's going to be out in a second too.
Clayton
All right.
Larry Johnson
Yep.
Clayton
And that's about it, I guess, on the Super Chat. So thank you guys for the super chats and rumble rants. We really appreciate it. Hey, don't forget we have a daily newsletter publishes every morning, first thing in the morning in your inbox. If you go to redacted.inc you can sign up for free and then have it delivered to your inbox. Tomorrow morning when you wake up, it'll be right there. It's very, very simple. We cover stories like that, like what's happening in Iran. Just go to redacted.inc, put in your email address right at the top of the the page right there. Click newsletter and then you have to click the welcome email that we send to your inbox, confirm it, and then on Wednesday you will receive that newsletter. Natalie does a great job writing it. Four or five of the big stories of the day and you can read it over your cup of coffee in about five or 10 minutes to keep you informed from stuff the mainstream media will not want you to know. So check out our free newsletter.
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Episode Title: Iran War Updates: Iran Vows Eye for an Eye, IRGC planning massive attacks, American War Wounded Numb
Hosts: Natali & Clayton Morris, with guests Larry Johnson (former CIA analyst), Ben Swan, and commentary from Philip
Date: March 11, 2026
This episode of Redacted News delves into the latest on the ongoing Iran war and its broad geopolitical, military, and civil ramifications. Hosts Natali and Clayton Morris scrutinize official narratives, expose underreported facts about American casualties, discuss the potential for escalation (“eye for an eye” rhetoric), and analyze new government cyber policies as possible tools for censorship. The show prioritizes independent investigation and features expert guests for in-depth analysis.
Iran’s Stance: Iran dismisses negotiations and commits to proportionate retaliation—“an eye for an eye”—with speculation on what that might tactically or symbolically mean.
Phase Two and Escalation: Reports suggest the IRGC (Iran’s Revolutionary Guard) is preparing for a massive attack, potentially marking an escalation rather than a de-escalation, as claimed by US officials.
Destruction & Disruption: Shutdowns at the Strait of Hormuz have stopped nearly all shipping, crippling refiners across Bahrain, Iraq, Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and UAE.
White House Cybersecurity Plan: The Trump administration announces an expansive new cyber strategy purportedly to curb “online espionage, propaganda, and cultural subversion” (34:54).
Debate Over Government Role: Ben Swan notes the language currently emphasizes “unveil and embarrass” rather than criminal prosecution; however, he and the hosts caution that any new bureaucracy will eventually seek to justify its existence with ever-broadening surveillance and enforcement.
Emerging Tech & AI: Worry that vague mandates to “secure emerging technologies” could lead to government control of future platforms and censorship of dissenting narratives, especially on AI (Grox), TikTok, or X (formerly Twitter).
This episode frames the Iran war not merely as a regional conflict but as a global pivot with cascading effects, from oil prices to American civil liberties. It exposes the gaps between official statements and independent reporting, criticizes mainstream media’s shortcomings, and raises alarms about broad new government powers dressed as cybersecurity measures. Through interviews and sharp commentary, Redacted News underscores the need for vigilance—in war, media, and law.