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Natalie
Plus, Iran is saying, look, you escalated the war during the ceasefire. United States, and they are vowing to retaliate. So what will the US Do? What would their response be? Because we just can't help ourselves. We just need to be bombing someone at all times or else we cease to exist. It's like, you know how a dinosaur can't see you if you stay still? Like, if we're not bombing people, we don't exist in the United States. We're going to go over the history of how the United States has in fact brought terror to the region in Iran. So anyone who says, oh, Iran, they sponsor terror, I would like to turn the mirror on those people and we're going to show you the long and bloody storied history of our attacks in the region for at least the last 30 years. Not an exhaustive list.
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Meanwhile, of course, the other day we highlighted the attack on the girls school or the girls that were killed at the college inside of Russia and devastating those 21, 21 young girls killed at the Starbolesk College there. Journalists were invited to come, by the way, from anywhere. They were invited to come and see, unlike what happens in Israel, of course, you're not, you know, journalists are not invited to see. Their IDF selectively picks where they're going to be sending people. But journalists from all over were invited to come. CNN turned them down, of course, to see the terrorist attack on this college. Also, the BBC turned them down. However, CNN just released a brand new report highlighting the, highlighting Ukraine's own drone program and how they're able to strike deep with inside of Russia. Because, you know, cnn, of course, is just part of the, you know, just a mouthpiece of the CIA. So watch this report. The hypocrisy here is amazing. Watch. President Trump once said Ukraine had no cards, but now they've built themselves a new deck. We're now with perhaps Russia's most keenly sought target in the war. A deep strike. Ukrainian drone unit launching this night a wave of 200 attack drones into Russia. The issue here is the scale. Potentially 20 drones being launched just from here and three or four other locations around here also involved in tonight's attack. The sheer number overwhelming, it seems, much of Russia's air defenses and causing persistent embarrassment to the Kremlin. Yeah, persistent embarrassment and the slaughter of innocent civilians as well. So CNN made their bed. They don't want to go and see what the terrorist attack, what those drones have wrought. Instead, they'd rather cover that side of the story embedded with, you know, the CIA gets them embedded there with it, with this Ukrainian unit unit. Okay, who's calling the shots? Who's doing the satellite telemetry? Maybe you could cover that in your report as well, like which intelligence units are actually responsible for the targeting of all of this? Is it Ukraine? No, we want to bring in Colonel Douglas MacGregor right now because things are escalating at a rapid pace right now inside of Ukraine. And where do things Stand. We want to talk about this. And then Iran after the break. Colonel, great to see you. Welcome back to the show. Where do things stand right now? You and I were emailing yesterday about where things were moving in what direction you think things are happening on the Russian side. There seems to be pressure, obviously enormous pressure on Putin to end this thing. And he has been methodical, to say the least, over the past few years. But given this escalation that we're seeing over the past 24, 48 hours, where do you think we're headed?
Colonel Douglas MacGregor
Well, I think we have reached a so called strategic inflection point in Ukraine. The Russian population is very strongly behind President Putin. I think the latest polling data I saw was 83, 84% approval. There are people who are critical, but not very many. And I would say that the majority of people have come to the conclusion that let's end this thing, let's get this over with. No more irritating strikes that kill innocence, no more strikes that destroy refineries. Let's put an end to this regime in Kiev. And I think you heard that from the foreign minister, from Mr. Lavrov, who effectively said, look, we're coming and you'd better get out of the way. If you're a foreign diplomat, get out of Kiev. We're going to launch more than the usual punishing strikes. These are going to be annihilating strikes. And the implication is that the Russian army is coming as well. I think the Russians have concluded, not that they needed to learn this, they know this from experience through many, many wars. But I think they recognize that this war will not end on the basis of strikes alone. You're going to have to go in on the ground. We've always known that Odessa and Kharkov, those two cities are Russian speaking cities, historically Russian, that they would have to become Russian again and the only way to do that would be to seize them. So I think those two are on the agenda. The last piece of course is Kiev. If you look at the distribution of forces right now, the size of forces up in Midorussia, that is white Russia north of Kiev, the size and concentration of forces in the north and the south of eastern Ukraine, it's pretty clear that these operations are going to commence and they're going to commence soon. And I think that's one of the reasons you asked me yesterday, what do you think about these so called special operations forces from Great Britain, France and other countries that are now moving into southern Ukraine, in other words towards Odessa. And I think they anticipate this is going to happen. And I think that's what you're hearing from Zelensky. Zelensky is actually quite desperate. He knows he's on the final leg of his existence and he's asking for whatever anybody's willing to give him. The good news is that most of the people in Europe that have been listening to this man are no longer interested. I mean, that's probably the best news of all from Germany. Elise Weigel, the leader of the Alternative for Germany, spoke very frankly when she said, if we gain power and authority here in Germany, the first thing we're going to do is end the war. We're going to stop sending money that's going to be stolen or wasted in Ukraine. That's number one. Number two, we're going to go back to Moscow and we're going to arrange to buy energy, buy fuel, buy liquefied natural gas because it's cheaper. We're not going to impoverish ourselves by buying from the United States. So I think these things are coming. It's always been something that was just over the horizon. I think it's very close now. And as a result, I think Mr. Putin has decided it's time for the pedal to the metal. And he has an almost inexhaustible supply of reshniks, Iskanders and other missiles. And I think that they're going to do an enormous amount of damage, particularly in and around the center of Kiev, where the government is located. It's not something they've wanted to do because Kiev is a special place in Russian history. But I don't think they see any alternative to it. And they also have made it clear that they will now strike at train lines and logistical storage points and so forth deeper in Ukraine and all the way to Lvov if necessary. So that's what's coming. And it'll start very soon.
Natalie
Wow. Now, can you talk to me about what Ukraine has left to fight with, what kind of defenses? Now Zelensky is just costuming himself, pretending that they're going to continue. But what do they actually have? And what do we know? Well, we know that President Trump said we got to get some of that back because we want to have a war in Iran. So we can't be sending that much. We've sent them old stuff. Okay. Today the European Union promised 28.3 billion Euro, saying that they really want to focus on air defense and drones and anti drone cap capabilities. But that just feels like you're trying to defend a house with Sticks and stones. What do you think?
Colonel Douglas MacGregor
Well, most of the air and missile defense capability that they're talking about doesn't even exist. It has to be built. So you're talking about a long lag time. Most of these things will never arrive in time to make any difference to the survival or defeat of Ukraine. Secondly, when it comes down to numbers, it depends on what you want to believe. I've heard reports that there are as many as 25, 30, 40, 50,000 so called mercenaries. These are people from the Middle east, from Europe, some from the United States, some from Latin America who are being paid to come over and fight for Ukraine. Now beyond that, 25, 30, 40,000, 50,000 mercenaries. Are there 100,000, 150,000 human beings out there sitting in trenches and positions? Probably. Are they able to undertake anything? No. When they're really challenged, they tend to retreat and that's the wise thing to do because they face certain death if they don't. So on the ground, Ukraine has not much to offer. It's very, very low in terms of missiles. And so what you were seeing that CNN showed you is kind of the last gasp. These are long range unmanned systems, drones and the components are largely produced in Western Europe than they are assembled in Ukraine. Now the so called first person drones, the FPVs, those things can be built from scratch inside Ukraine and they're useful on the tactical battlefield but they're not a war winning, war changing outcome by any stretch of the imagination. And these drones that they're assembling and firing have reached a point now where quite frankly the population in Russia is angry and the population of Russia wants action and I think President Putin agrees and his general staff does. So I think you're going to see enormous destruction meted out to the sources of these drones. And I think that's why the Europeans are especially worried right now, because there is a distinct possibility that the Russians may choose to target selectively places in Germany and Poland and Lithuania and perhaps other countries. Even in Great Britain they could do so if they wanted. In Denmark, in the places where some of these components are being produced. Now I'm not saying they will, but they have the capability, they have the targeting data, it could be done. Now that may seem to many of the globalists in Western Europe as a great thing. They would love to provoke the Russians and then stand there and say see, see these Russians really want to invade Europe. But of course it's patently obvious the Russians don't want anything to do with that, but they will cross The Dieppe river. They will go down to Odessa. I think they will ultimately go into Kiev because I think they understand they don't have any choice anymore. This thing is going to end unless they end it on those terms.
Clayton Morris
A couple of things to unpack there on Odessa. I mean, you have said on our show repeatedly that if, if Russia takes Odessa, for all intents and purposes, Ukraine ceases to be a country. I mean, you're forcing them into a landlocked position where they have no port and therefore, for all intents and purposes, they're not really a country anymore.
Natalie
Worth pointing out that the regions that Russia has annexed are their mining regions which were highly intensive in natural resources. They don't have those anymore was one of the greatest fears of Ukrainian government for decades. And they're gone. They didn't have to lose it.
Clayton Morris
So on the Odessa question, I mean, is this, what will these mercenaries, what will France, what will the uk, what will the US do in response? Can they do anything in response?
Colonel Douglas MacGregor
I can't imagine anything of substance happening. And if they put anybody down there, they're going to get killed. We have to remember that on the ground in Western Ukraine, there are thousands of people who are agents for Russia. What that means is that someone can walk up to a building in Odessa where, say, French officers or British officers are meeting with Ukrainian opposites. They can listen, they can then open their cell phone, they can send that data straight back to Russia. Then they get in their car, they drive away, and six or seven minutes later, the building ceases to exist. That's the kind of capability the Russians have right now on the ground in Western Ukraine. But we have to look at this from two different vantage points. Odessa has been important as a port of entry for a lot of equipment, a lot of mercenaries, a lot of sensitive technology, ammunition, as well as food and other implements. This has to stop because it's a lifeline for the war in Ukraine. The only alternative at that point then is to go through Poland. And that's a lot easier for the Russians to interdict, frankly, whenever they want to. Getting, getting into Odessa and controlling that is vital because you can't do that as easily from a distance. That's the short term advantage, strategic advantage of seizing Odessa. But long term, it's much more important to the Russians. That port didn't even exist 300 years ago. It was founded by Russians, Russian armies led by generals that Catherine the Great sent out to the field to destroy, defeat the Ottoman Turks and the, and the Tartars, and ultimately bring Under Russian control, Ukraine, historic Ukraine, is further north, much further north. And historic Ukraine is not known for mines or valuable minerals. It's known for its farmland, its black earth. That is still there, and that is still very, very valuable. Which is why I think people like Kushner and others have been trying to make side deals to get control of as much of it as possible as a way to enrich themselves and expand their business opportunities. And Unfortunately, I think Mr. Zelensky has been only too willing to sell everything and anything he can to people like Kushner. So at this point, the two things that are most important is, number one, this is a Russian city of enormous strategic importance and historical value. It must return to Russia. The only way to do that is to cross the river and invade it. And they'll take it from the north. They'll come down, presumably, from the bridge, bridgehead over the Dnieper river from Zaporizhzhia and go south and get control of the port. Then the rest of it is a different matter. But once that occurs. You're right, Clayton. Ukraine as a country is effectively cooked. It's back to being what historically Ukraine has been. Not a nation, not a nation state or an independent country, but a region inhabited by people who call themselves Ukrainians or Ruthenians. That's real. That's there. But it is seldom, if ever, been treated as an independent state. Not by any means.
Natalie
Are you surprised that Vladimir Zelensky still hanging on? I am. I mean, at this point, yeah. I mean, we're over a year past the confrontation between President Trump and Vice President Vance. You know, he really has no effective power. He's just a social media influencer. He's a war influencer, basically. And he's still sitting in that office. It's perplexing to me.
Colonel Douglas MacGregor
Every time I see him, I think of Rick James. Remember Rick James? Cocaine is a hell of a drug. Yeah, well, it's obvious that he's on a lot of cocaine, because when he talks, it's pure, unadulterated nonsense. And that's the last refuge of somebody as corrupt and despicable as this man Zelenskyy. He really is. I seldom say that about somebody, but you have to know the sad state of affairs inside Ukraine to really appreciate that. We don't get any real news or information from inside that country. But the Ukrainians themselves have had it when they tried to take people and put them in uniform. Now they're met by armed gangs. People in western Ukraine want nothing to do with this. They Want an end to this war.
Clayton Morris
They're pulling people off of farms. I mean, there's videos this week now, now they're taking farmers going. These conscription goons are grabbing those people and throwing them in. And how many people have died? You know the numbers. Months ago or maybe last year, you were reporting, I think 1.3 million dead on the Ukrainian side.
Colonel Douglas MacGregor
Actually, the latest ones I've heard are about 1.8 million. But it could be more of that. Could it be a little less? Maybe. But sadly, that part of the world has always had a problem with absorbing a lot of blood. And I'm afraid that large numbers of people have died there unnecessarily. The Ukrainian nation has been destroyed by these people, and I would argue by us and the Europeans who have enabled this nonsense. The best thing that President Trump can do is end this war. The bad news is that you're absolutely right, Clayton. We've enabled these long range unmanned system strikes. We've helped to plot, you know, the pathway for these systems, giving them the targeting data. We've had aircraft, surveillance aircraft come back from flights and turn over to the Ukrainians the location of every major refinery, every factory, every air defense battery, you name it, to the Ukrainians that are that are running the show in Kiev. All we've done is extend the life of this Sikh regime. It really needs to stop. And it's more evidence that President Trump doesn't even control his own government, because I know President Trump, and if he really understood this, I think he would stop it.
Natalie
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Colonel Douglas MacGregor
Well, the last time I looked, we established a government in Damascus that took control of Syria. That was essentially a group of ISIS graduates or Al Qaeda members and so forth. So this sort of thing has been going on forever in the region. The Mossad, as you implied, is very good at this. They know how to manipulate the various groups and turn them against each other. I think that's what we're trying to do now with Iran. But this is another measure of how desperate we are. I mean, this is not going to change anything. And the Iranians are eminently well equipped to deal with that. And remember that when they tried to arm and send over a group of Azeri Turks that were from just across the border, also along with some Kurds, the Turkish military intelligence actually warned the Iranians, and the Iranians were able to annihilate the group before it ever got into the country. I think the Iranians could handle this, but the problem is that this sort of thing reinforces the conviction in Tehran that any agreement reached with us is worthless, that we're not going to stand by anything. We can't be trusted. We lie all the time. And so what's the rationale for signing anything with us under any circumstances? That's the bad news. That's why this is a really bad idea.
Natalie
Well, but it's not unusual because the United States has supported MEK, which was a terrorist group designated until 2012, when Obama decided they weren't any longer, because they were designated as helpful. And so Iran must expect this. It's not. It's. It's totally in character, right?
Colonel Douglas MacGregor
Yes. That's why I say I don't think the Iranians feel particularly threatened by this. This is something they can handle. They know the region better than we do, and they certainly understand what they're dealing with in the Israeli camp. It's also reminiscent of what we did after World War II and the Carpathians in Western Ukraine. We armed all of the people that were called banderites, that had been part of the sort of rogue organizations loosely associated with the Nazis. And some were directly, but a group of nationalists who were willing to fight to the bitter end. So we armed them. And in fact, it was Jarozielski, who is a Polish officer at the time, young officer, who endeared himself to his Soviet masters by going into the mountains, rooting them out and killing them. This is not new. We've done this. The Israelis have done it. The British are very good at it. The problem I have with it, though, is that if you're really interested, and I don't think we are, frankly, but if you're really interested in coming to an agreement that has any chance of lasting about the Persian Gulf and in our relations with Iran right now, this is not something you do. You can't conceal it. Everybody finds out.
Clayton Morris
Right. All over the newspapers now. It's pretty obvious. So just a few minutes ago, Colonel President Trump said that the Strait of Hormuz will be open to everyone. It will not be controlled by any country. Under any deal reached with Iran, there will be no discussions about easing sanctions on Tehran. So that was. That's, of course, a huge piece of the Iranian part of their deal, removing of the sanctions and that they will control the Strait of Hormuz. So. And then Iran also Of course, saying that they will respond, retaliate for these recent attacks over the weekend. There doesn't seem to be any. Any end in sight to this.
Colonel Douglas MacGregor
No, I haven't heard or seen anything that I would describe as meaningful. I mean, how do you follow these tweets and come up with some sort of coherent strategy or policy? If you're a schizophrenic, maybe you understand what he's talking about, but the rest of us, with normal minds, no, we can't figure it out. And his policies change from tweet to tweet, as you just pointed out, and it's ridiculous. First of all, somebody said somewhere along the line that possession was 9, 10 of the law. Well, here's a blinding flash of the obvious. Iran controls the Strait of Hormuz. We don't. So I don't know who he's kidding. Secondly, and we've talked about this before, we have something called the Montreuz Convention, which was signed in 1926 after World War I by the various belligerents. Co. Belligerents. And they decided that Turkey should control the Strait. And everybody agreed to the conditions under which the strait would be governed. Turkey signed up for it. We've never had any problems with the Dardanelles. The Turks have done an excellent job of conducting ships in and out of it. I think something similar is going to happen in the Strait of Hormuz. And I imagine that Iran will end up, if it's not the majority factor in it, it'll probably be de facto the controlling authority. And that's not surprising. They control most of the coastline that is on the Strait of Hormuz. And again, they have an incentive to keep it running and keep it flowing because they too, want the oil and the gas and all the other things that are missing now. Fertilizer, sulfuric acid, hydrogen, nitrogen. So forth from. From being. Everything is being kept inside the Gulf. They want to get it out, so I don't see a problem. But this, this doesn't have anything to do with rationality. There is no rationality involved in this. You're dealing with two, two serious problems. Number one, Israel. Israel has veto authority over anything that President Trump decides to do. He is not in charge. He is responding to Netanyahu. The demands he sets forth in front of the Iranians and says, these are the things you must do. They're not our demands. Those are Israeli demands. So somehow or another, how do you break the hold that Netanyahu has on President Trump and the United States government? Nobody in Congress is going to stand up and jeopardize their income if they oppose the Israel lobby and effectively say no to Mr. Netanyahu. So that's problem number one. Problem number two, his President Trump and his personality and his fear of being castigated and humiliated for having done this, done this stupid thing and attacking Iran was a very dumb idea. Anybody with any sense knew that. And there is nothing that justifies the total mobilization for war that it would require for us to take control of Iran. We're not going to implement a draft and bring over a million people to run all over the countryside and control Iran. It's ridiculous. Nobody wants to do that. Nobody will support it. So how does he get out of it without embarrassing himself? I think that's a serious problem. And if you turn to Mr. Netanyahu and his agents inside the United States, the billionaires that put Trump where he is, and you tell them, well, I'm sorry, guys, I can't go any further, this has to stop. So I'm pulling the plug. They're going to look at him and say, well, then we're pulling the plug on you, my friend. We're, we're taking away the billions of dollars that we've helped you get. We're subtracting those from your side of the ledger. More important, we're not going to protect you anymore from the attacks that you're going to sustain from Congress. Congress will eat you alive without us. So if you don't do what we say, you've had it. Those are the grim facts.
Clayton Morris
And also we will release the compromat and whatever is hidden in these Epstein files that we've enabled you to hide from the rest of us and the millions of documents that we still are not allowed to see as a result of it. I think you're absolutely right. What do you think happens next here? I mean, are we heading back to a full scale hot war?
Colonel Douglas MacGregor
I feel like Richard Nixon. I'm glad you asked that question because there are some other things that we don't usually mention that we really do need to talk about. A lot of people don't seem to understand that inflation in April jumped from 3.2 to 3.8%. Projections for the next quarter or two suggest that we may hit 6% inflation. Well, if you go up to 5% or 6% inflation, that means that your interest rates should be fixed at 6% or 7%. Right now, they are fixed at 3.75% below inflation. Now, what does this mean? This means if you try to Fix it and suppress the inflation and you raise those rates, our financial system will collapse. The economy won't survive it. You know, we now have. The President is also dipped into the spr, the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. Remember when Biden did this? And this was during COVID and Trump spoke out and raged against it, saying this was irresponsible and so forth. Well, I found out yesterday that he sold something in the neighborhood of 17.8 million barrels of oil, just this within the last week, as an effort to suppress the prices of oil, to keep it below $110 per barrel. Well, the problem with this is at this rate, our Strategic Petroleum Reserve will probably be exhausted by the end of July, beginning of August. Especially since he's also sold below market price, unknown quantities of oil to some of our Asian friends. Now, doubtlessly this was done because after all, he never bothered to ask them what they thought about his dumb idea of attacking Iran. And this has tried to ease the damage, but this is not a long term solution. This is all short term thinking. What happens when you hit bottom on this Strategic Petroleum Reserve? What happens when you can't skirt or skate away from the consequences? You know, right now people think that when all the chickens come home to roost, and I'm talking about everything, the loss of oil around the world and the gas and the minerals and everything else, we could see as much as a 36% reduction in the size of the global economy. Now why is that important? Because during the Great Depression, the world economy was reduced by 20%. However, we had an advantage, believe it or not, during the 30s in the United States. And one advantage that we had was that all of our allies during World War I owed us lots of money because we'd sold them not just weapons and bullets and so forth, we also sold them a lot of food and a lot of other mineral resources. And we asked that they pay for those things in gold. So we had a lot of gold pouring into our country. And then finally, our debt to GDP ratio was so small it was hardly worth mentioning in the 1930s. Today, our debt to GDP ratio is 125%. Some people say it's higher. It's actually 130, but it's certainly climbing. It's not by any means being reduced. You put all of that together and he's sitting on top of a very large ticking time bomb. Politically, socially, culturally, financially, economically.
Natalie
I mean, it's really hard to imagine that Americans support this and most of them don't. And so you continue to see these Market perversions such as the 50 year mortgage, which will only increase the price of a house and enslave Americans for longer various sort of band aids. But it's all a perversion of a natural financial system in order to rage these wars. And I think Americans are seeing it so that is both the silver lining for us and the curse, the poison pill for the administration. It has to come to a head because we have to, we have to start to reject it. Is there any way we can do that other than just complaining here unprotected?
Colonel Douglas MacGregor
Well, someone sent me a chart this morning showing that 90% of the spending inside the United States is a function of 10% of the American population. Right. And if you look at the distribution of wealth, it's almost the same. And normally when you see that kind of thing, the word revolution springs to mind. Because when things collapse, when things fail, that's when people finally take to the streets. When you can't buy gas, when you can't get the food that you want, when the supply chains break down, that's when chaos breaks out. And that's when things change. I don't know how else to put it, because this sort of maldistribution of wealth gets worse with each passing day. And if you look at the White House right now and the people surrounding President Trump, they are a microcosm of what I'm describing. That's what you're seeing. Every time they manipulate the markets, what do you see happen? People walk out with wheelbarrows full of cash, all by shorting something, usually oil. So there is no easy way out, Natalie. I'm afraid the only way out is the hard way. And at some point we're going to see it. I don't know when it happens. I mean, you got to bring on Nassim Talib, you know, who invented the Black Swan, and maybe he can give you a better assessment there. But the black swan is definitely going to take off. And when it does, it's going to be hell to pay. And I don't think right now most people in Washington are aware of it. I, if anything, they're delusional. They look at the markets, they don't see the danger. How you could is beyond my imagination. But they really don't.
Clayton Morris
No. And I saw a report today saying we could see the markets going up 20, even 30% this year in the midst of all of this. So the rich will get richer and the average Americans will get totally squeezed. And so, so many people in our chat room right now Say the Colonel is spot on, 100%. I've been saying this, Someone said, I've been saying this, goddammit, in our chat room about a second American revolution that we're facing right now. It's unsustainable. It's gonna fall on some president's lap at some point, whether it's Trump or the next person. But $39 trillion in debt and an unsustainable path. We're on a collision course for disaster.
Colonel Douglas MacGregor
Yeah. The bad news is that I think President Trump, with his decision to go to war with Iran, has actually accelerated this process. So I think it's going to land in his lap whether he likes it or not.
Natalie
Well, thank you for that, Colonel. It's great to talk to you.
Clayton Morris
Yeah, thank you.
Natalie
I do. But only on a personal level, not about the subject matter. I just. I just happen to like you that much.
Clayton Morris
What I love. Yeah, what I love, what I love about you is you're able to just cut through the bs, I mean, and just, you know, and whether it's not. You're not trying to sugarcoat anything. Just give it, give it straight. And that's what we need right now. So I hope people are paying attention. And whether J.D. vance decides he's not gonna run at all, he doesn't wanna be a part of it, he doesn't wanna be handed this mess. So I don't know. Something very interesting is happening right now in Washington. I think we are at a tipping point moment. So thank you, Colonel, as always, for your assessment and your analysis. Second to none. So thank you, sir. Great to see you.
Colonel Douglas MacGregor
Okay, thank you all. Bye bye.
Clayton Morris
Thanks, Doug.
Colonel Douglas MacGregor
All right.
Natalie
All right, coming up, we're gonna talk about the terrorist attacks you're not supposed to know about. Some of the bloodiest in recent decades. Guess what? It was not done by Iran. You want to know who paid for it? Got a mirror around. If you're a US taxpayer, it was probably you. We're going to go over this because these are the terror attacks. You are not supposed to feel, you are not supposed to see or remember. We'll do that in just a second.
Clayton Morris
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Natalie
Well, we keep hearing that Iran supports terrorism. Instead of refuting that, I would like to turn the mirror on the people who say that the warring class repeats these things, but they have blood on their hands too. And that includes both political parties in the US by the way. Now here's a short list of mass killings linked to US power in the last at least 30 to 40 years. And I filtered these by at least 100 deaths in a single day. Now if I expanded this to dozens, I would need, I don't know, dozens of screens. I'm just gonna focus on these today because they're horrific and they're things that were speed bumps in American consciousness but inform how people abroad think about us. Now each of these were funded by US taxpayers and no one was really ever held accountable for them. Now Iran has never launched anything close to this magnitude of terror on the U.S. we may even add a city to this list and a date today because Israel has launched deadly attacks on tire Lebanon and the surrounding regions. But we don't know the death count yet. Reports are still coming in. We know that Israel issued evacuation orders overnight. People were buried in their home. It probably is going to be a hurricane, so hold on. But we need to wait to see the extent of it. So for now let's rewind the clock back to 1988, less than a decade after the Islamic Republic of Iran was established when the United States committed one of the deadliest acts ever carried out on Iranian civilians. The victims families are still alive and still remember this. This was July 3rd, 1988. It's the wreckage of Iranian Air Flight 655 on July 3rd. I just said that. 1988. It was conducted by the US Navy warship called the US Vincennes. Now this was a civilian plane flying from Bandar Abbas headed for dubai. There were 290 human beings on board, all killed in a second by bombs. 66 of them were children, mothers holding their babies, grandparents, students, workers heading for their jobs in Dubai. The plane was presenting no threat to the US warship. It was following a normal commercial flight corridor over the Persian Gulf, climbing normally. It had a civilian transponder on board. It was not diving towards the ship. It was quite Simply a normal 28 minute commercial flight until missiles tore the aircraft apart. And bodies fell into the water. Body parts floating in the surface. Now why did the US do this? The official explanation was not even an apology. It was kind of an oops. They say that they mistook the civilian Airbus for an attacking Iranian F14 fighter jet during a tense naval confrontation in the Persian Gulf. But there are problems, of course, with that excuse. The flight was broadcasting a civilian transponder signal. It was flying a known pattern. Multiple military personnel aboard the U. S. Vincennes reportedly had data indicating that it was a commercial civilian craft. And here's another detail that Americans rarely hear. This happened during the US Aggression on Iran. It was called Operation Praying Mantis. Just months earlier, President Reagan had authorized Praying Mantis, which was the largest US naval combat operation since World War II. Their mission was to attack Iranian oil platforms and naval forces during the Iran Iraq war. Why were we involved in the Iran Iraq war? Well, because the US Was backing Iraq in order to topple Iran, which they did for decades. Just a few years earlier, the United States was politically aligned with Iran. But foreign policy shifted on a dime and the US Decided that Iran was the enemy. Used Saddam Hussein to launch an Iraqi war on Iran until we decided we didn't like him anymore and get rid of him. Now it's worth remembering this is all happening during the same period that Iraq was using chemical weapons against the Iranian troo with the help of the CIA. That's where they got these chemical weapons. This happened from 1980 to 1988, killed between 50 and 100,000 people. The 50,000 number is reported by the CIA. So we know that we helped Iraq kill Iranian civilians and troops en masse. Now it's notable that Iran had the technology to use chemical weapons back then and they chose not to based on their Islamic principles. But back to the downed plane. Did the United States ever apologize for downing that plane of almost 300 civilians? They did not. And in fact, President Reagan at the time called it proper defensive action, which was clearly a lie. A few weeks later, Vice President Bush said this.
Colonel Douglas MacGregor
I'll never apologize for the United States of America, ever. I don't care what the facts are. I will lead her. I will do my level best to stand up for freedom and democracy around the world by keeping the United States of America strong and by keeping our eyes wide open as we welcome change
Natalie
in the world by keeping our eyes wide open. Okay, so he said he would not apologize. He didn't care what the facts are. You killed 300 people on a civilian plane. I don't care. Basically, was The US Official position. Now, the media did condemn this for a short period of time, but there were very small consequences for the United States. There was demand for the United nations to condemn the incident. They did not. Instead, the United nations passed Security Council Resolution 616 where United nations member states said that they were deeply distressed and gravely disturbed by the incident. Wow, big words. Iran did bring a case against the US in the International Court of Justice, but the US settled that case in 1996 for 131.8 million plus two new Airbuses. And that was the end of that for Americans. We have largely been allowed to forget it. Oops, sorry, didn't mean to do that. Actually, not even that. Not even a sorry. But for Iranians, it became a part of the emotional foundation of their trust of the United States. It was proof in the Iranian worldview that the United States talks endlessly about terrorism and civilian protection while excusing its own mass civilian killings. And in fact, as you can see, this memory was crystallized in Iranian culture. Here was a stamp that was issued by the Islamic Republic after the attack. It was memorialized as an American attack on innocent civilians. That was in character with American foreign policy. Now I ask you, if something had happened like this to us, wouldn't it be for decades a part of our collective national trauma? I submit that it would. Think about the pain that we still feel over 9, 11, Columbine, any mass shooting. It's solidified in collective pain experiences and informs our global worldview. And when you combine that with later events and such as just from this year alone, the February 28th bombing of the girls school, you begin to understand why most Iranians cannot think of the United States as a force for peace, democracy and civilian protection the way Americans say that they see us? Sure. Would you be able to, in any form or fashion after this collective pain, think of the United States as the force to save you? And again, look at this short list that I compiled of US backed terror attacks in the region. And here I am again only collaborating single day events with over 100 killings. And even this list is not exhaustive. If you'd like to add to it, please do let me know. But if I were to expand it to U. S backed military attacks with at least 10 deaths per day, I would need dozens of slides. We'd be here for an hour. But each of these events again is a collective memory in the region to the tune of October 7th to Israelis, 9, 11 to us. But they don't even get a date. We don't even say 2 28, which is the day that we bombed that Minab girl school, or 4, 8, which is the day that we killed hundreds in Beirut while Israel launched those attacks with our money and weapons. I do include here the Mariah shelter bombing because no justice ever came from that attack. On February 13, 1991, the United States dropped two precision guided bombs on this shelter in Baghdad, where hundreds of civilians were sheltering from air raids. The blast sealed people inside, ignited an inferno so intense that entire families were burned alive, while many bodies were later found melted into the wall of the shelter. We did that same story for the 1996 Khana massacre. On April 18, 1996, Israeli artillery shelled the United nations compound in Kana, Lebanon. Hundreds of civilians had taken shelter there. During fighting in southern Lebanon, more than 100 civilians were killed, including women and children. Bodies were torn apart in what is believed to be what was at the time believed to be a safe house. Now, the United nations later concluded there was evidence suggesting that the shelling was deliberate. And of course, Israel disputed that finding. But 30 years later, Kana, Lebanon, is again being attacked by Israel. That's still happening. In April, Israel killed at least five people and wounded dozens in an attack on that city in the middle of the night. So I just wonder, I just bring you this historical truth to ask you again. When people scream about the Iranian regime supporting terrorists, do they have a mirror? Do they remember these things? Do they know who the real terrorists are, who has actually shed blood and who has not? So you should think about this very short, not exhaustive list the next time someone says Iran is a terrorist state or Iran supports terror. If we were victims like this, what would we do when someone says, oh, they really want to, you know, they want to hurt Americans? Maybe they want this to stop. Maybe that's what they want when they say, death to this system. And again today, Israel launched an attack on Tyre and the surrounding areas in Lebanon. After issuing evacuation orders in the middle of the night, they bombed an entire residential building, including a Palestinian refugee camp with civilians inside. Children, women, men, entire families now buried in the rubble of their homes. It is another massacre we will be invited to forget. So will we participate in this charade?
Clayton Morris
You know, it's interesting to think about the quote, unquote, terror attacks that happen against America and how we don't have terror attacks happening against America because we have to create them. 9, 11, the false flag in order to provoke us into war. They keep pushing this charade on us. People like Mike Pompeo and Lindsey Graham that Iran for 47 years has tried to kill Americans and shout death to America. Really? Have they actually attacked us? Have they killed Americans? Pearl harbor, another false flag attack that we needed to be dragged into a war from. So again, where are these terror attacks that the United States is having to suffer through? No, we are the perpetrators of these terror attacks in order for us to carry out this warmongering agenda around the world.
Natalie
Well, in fact, when Victoria Nuland was asked over the weekend to debate on this war, she asked, I believe it was John Mearsheimer. Do you believe Iran is a terrorist state? It's a bad place. And they're like, no, not really. She didn't come up with facts to support her world vote view. She just kind of laughed in a demonic way and said, it must be nice to think that. But we don't have the luxury of feeling that way. You know, we have the neocons that are responsible for this in the Republican Party, but Democrats have neocons too. They're called liberal internationalists. They sell you this idea that we need to promote peace while ignoring the bloodshed that we promote while promoting that peace. And, you know, I wish nothing but hell for those people.
Clayton Morris
True. I mean, we were in Serbia not too long ago and talking to the people of Serbia and, you know, just they remember. They remember the NATO attack on them. They remember the. Was it 100 or 79 nights of being, having to, you know, shelter in place while their city is being bombed by NATO bombs. Yeah, it's endless. It's endless. The NATO stay behind armies, Operation Gladio and all of the NATO stay behind armies that carry out terrorist attacks in order create this chaos so that we can have this perpetual state of war. And it's bombing in Bologna, Italy that kills all these people. I mean, on and on and on. Who's attacking us again? Who's it? No one's attacking us.
Natalie
Yeah.
Clayton Morris
The attacks are coming because of our own either provocation or when President Biden says we've got 50,000 troops in harm's way in the Middle east and it's only a matter of time before they're attacked.
Colonel Douglas MacGregor
Yeah.
Clayton Morris
You think you put bases in their countries and in their backyard and then you carry out provocations through Operation Gladio style murders and assassination attempts and government overthrows and killing of children and arming of militants. Like in the case of Syria, of course.
Natalie
Right. Well, I might submit that the Orlando nightclub shooting was an attack for those attacks. It had nothing to do with homophobia. It was A Middle Eastern man. I believe he was Afghani. I could be wrong on that. Who said, I just want you to stop attacking my country. So that's why I'm attacking yours.
Clayton Morris
So he shot up. Yeah. So he shot up the Orlando nightclub.
Natalie
Right. It had nothing to do with homophobia. Don't let them sell you that lie.
Clayton Morris
But they couldn't even tell us that on its face value. Wouldn't it have been amazing if, like, the news reports about the Orlando nightclub shooting were honest and they're like, yeah, he was an Afghan national. He was tired of the killing of his family and people in his country. So he shot up this nightclub in Orlando. No, they didn't. They lied to us.
Natalie
Yeah.
Clayton Morris
And they said that this guy was a homophobe and he shot up a gay man.
Natalie
He gave gay rights on that. Right? Absolutely. That wasn't the case.
Clayton Morris
So Obama. Obama rallies around that. He's like, how can we use that to our advantage?
Natalie
Yeah.
Clayton Morris
He's like, oh, I'll use something from Rahm Emanuel's playbook. Never let a good, you know, disaster go to waste. Let's do that for gay rights.
Natalie
Right. So, again, I just want to remind you, you know, these are things that we're not supposed to remember when we promote our attacks on Iran, but we do. And you're here on redacted, and you do. So I wanna thank you for listening to that.
Clayton Morris
I could go on. Or the USS Liberty. Or how Israel was literally planning to target and kill Americans in Cairo using Israeli morons.
Natalie
Right.
Clayton Morris
You know, I mean, come on. Like, literally. To provoke us into a war. We don't even have people attacking us. Stop attacking other countries and stop pretending that they're attacking us.
Natalie
Yeah. Attacks. Well, again, we could talk about, you know, attacks in Ukraine on this. The girls in their college dorm, we could talk about. Yes. That was funded by.
Clayton Morris
That was technically Russia. Was in Russia.
Natalie
I'm sorry. Yes. The attacks on the Russian girls in their college dorm. Yeah. We could go on and on about
Clayton Morris
this, but it's a laundry list. Yeah. Forever and ever.
Natalie
Yeah.
Clayton Morris
But thank you to all of you who watch, because. Thank you. You are rooted in reality and you realize that we are living in a clown world and they are trying to sell you this propaganda. But thank you for coming here to try to navig through all of this propaganda and BS and all of the fake history books that they've forced down your throats over the years. So there seems to be an awakening, because when you talk to people about Pearl harbor now, people are like, oh yeah, you mean that false flag attack. People are aware, like, oh, FDR knew about it ahead of time, got us into this war, didn't tell us about what was happening in the Philippines, like intentionally leading us into the war. There's an awakening and at least I'm happy about that. So.
Natalie
Yeah, well, we're here. We're talking about it. Hey, if you want to add to my list of, you know, again, I just filtered by like things I could remember in recent years that the U.S. funded that single day, 100 plus deaths. But I'm sure I'm missing plenty. So help me add to the list. I'm listening.
Clayton Morris
Few super chats real quick here. Independence, free media says, let's hope enough people wake up. Great show, you guys. Thank you so much. Thank you.
Natalie
Thank you very much.
Clayton Morris
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On 9 11. Unbelievable story. Of course.
Natalie
Yes.
Clayton Morris
And how the FBI investigated them and then what, flew them back to Israel? Don't forget the USS Liberty sailing prepper. Dark Secrets says I wear a hat on a regular basis. Of the USS Liberty. I'm happy to talk about it. Talk about it to anyone. Yes, on a regular basis. I will. And we of course, interviewed, if you want to go seek it here on the show, interviewed Philip Tuly, who was Tuohy, who was a survivor of the USS Liberty attack. He was on the ship that day when, you know, dozens upon dozens of his brethren were killed by the Israelis and the CIA. You can watch that interview here on the channel with Philip. Unbelievable. All right, that's going to do it for us here on redacted on this Wednesday. We do have a daily newsletter. We'd love for you to subscribe to it. It's free. It's delivered to your inbox first thing in the morning over your cup of coffee. Just go to redacted.inc and it's not.com, it's.inc. click on the newsletter link at the top there and then just put in your email address. You will receive a welcome email. You need to confirm it so that your email provider doesn't think it's spam. Click confirm that you want to receive the newsletter and you will receive it on Thursday morning in your inbox. And we cover like four or five of the big stories of the day, try to cover them outside of the narrative that they're pushing down your throats. So our thanks to all of you for subscribing being a part of our show here. We'll be back tomorrow at 4pm Eastern Time. Have a great night, everybody.
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Podcast: Redacted News
Hosts: Clayton & Natali Morris
Guest: Colonel Douglas MacGregor
Date: May 28, 2026
This episode centers on the rapidly escalating situation in Ukraine, with particular focus on whether Vladimir Putin is preparing a decisive, large-scale attack to end the war. Hosts Clayton and Natali Morris, joined by Colonel Douglas MacGregor, dissect Western and Russian strategies, the desperation of Ukrainian leadership, Europe’s shifting allegiances, and the broader consequences for global security—including U.S. involvement with Iran and a critical re-examination of Western narratives about terror and foreign policy.
(START – 13:00)
Zelensky’s Plea and Threats:
Claytor opens by discussing Volodymyr Zelensky’s letter to U.S. President and Congress demanding extra weapons and support, vowing a major response if Russia escalates.
Imminent Russian Offensive:
Col. MacGregor argues that Russia is at a "strategic inflection point," with public support for Putin at 83-84%. He predicts the Russian military aims to seize Odessa and Kharkov, Russian-speaking cities, with Kiev also likely a target.
Foreign Warnings:
Russia has warned foreign diplomats to leave Kiev, implying massive strikes and follow-on ground operations, per FM Lavrov's statements.
Europe's Changing Tune:
Col. MacGregor says European enthusiasm for funding Ukraine is waning—particularly in Germany, where opposition leaders have pledged to end funding and seek renewed energy deals with Russia.
(13:00 – 17:10)
(16:32 – 21:01)
(20:38 – 23:22)
(25:54 – 36:23)
U.S. Supporting Proxy Forces:
Reports that the U.S. is moving ISIS militants from Syria to Iraq to target Iran, and that such tactics breed deep mistrust in Tehran.
Stalemated Negotiations:
A proposed U.S.-Iran deal is described as a "non-starter," with U.S. demands Iran will likely never accept.
Israel’s Policy Influence:
MacGregor contends Netanyahu effectively "has veto authority" over U.S. Middle East policy; any concession to Iran risks instant backlash from U.S. political donors and the "Israel lobby."
Domestic Economic Ticking Time Bomb:
MacGregor warns of rising inflation, potential exhaustion of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, sky-high debt-to-GDP ratio, and the financial risks of continued war.
(40:01 – 43:11)
Growing American Discontent:
Natali and MacGregor highlight widespread U.S. frustration with endless wars and the extreme concentration of wealth, warning that social upheaval (a "second American Revolution") is likely if conditions persist.
War’s Domestic Price:
Unnatural financial schemes (50-year mortgages, etc.) are signs of underlying instability meant to sustain the war machine.
(47:46 – 63:40)
"We're not going to impoverish ourselves by buying from the United States."
—Douglas MacGregor on Germany's energy future (11:18)
"If Russia takes Odessa…Ukraine ceases to be a country."
—Clayton Morris (16:32)
"It's obvious he's on a lot of cocaine, because when he talks, it's pure, unadulterated nonsense."
—Douglas MacGregor on Zelensky (21:01)
"This sort of maldistribution of wealth gets worse with each passing day...revolution springs to mind."
—MacGregor (40:46)
"We are the perpetrators of these terror attacks in order for us to carry out this warmongering agenda around the world."
—Clayton Morris (58:38)
"I'll never apologize for the United States of America, ever. I don't care what the facts are."
—Quote from George H.W. Bush, referenced by Natali (52:36)
Throughout, the tone is blunt, adversarial toward mainstream Western narratives, and colored by deep skepticism about U.S. and Allied policy motives. The episode questions the sustainability of both military and economic strategies underpinning the current world order and urges listeners to reconsider the official narratives surrounding both Ukraine and Iran—and the broader practice of American interventionism.
Memorable closing observation:
"There seems to be an awakening...We are living in a clown world and they are trying to sell you this propaganda." (Clayton, 63:14)
For those seeking to understand the war in Ukraine outside the filtered narrative, this episode offers a forceful, controversial alternate framing grounded in realpolitik and historical grievances, challenging assumptions about who is, and isn't, the world's true aggressor.