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Leaked Audio EXPOSES AIPAC's Shocking Grip on Trump's National Security Team and Inner Circle
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Clayton Morris
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Natalie Morris
I don't care, because they're right. Go to sleep and sign up for Ramp in the morning. Jerry.
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Clayton Morris
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Jerry
Go to sleep, Jerry.
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Clayton Morris
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Natalie Morris
I'm Natalie Morris.
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Clayton Morris
And on this show, we follow the truth wherever it leads us, even if it's incredibly inconvenient, which most of the time it happens to be my challenge your worldview. But we've got a lot of news to get to here on the show today, but first, I just want to say thank you to our audience, both on YouTube, on Rumble, on Twitch, on X. Just got some new numbers in over the last 28 days and I just want to share to the 12 million of you who've tuned in over the last 12, 28 days here on YouTube, thank you so much. And to the over 6 million of you on Rumble as well, thank you guys so much for your support and seeking the truth. Really, really appreciate it. So we got a busy show for you on this Thursday. We're going to talk about this new APEC leaked audio that the gray zone got their hands on. And it shows really disturbing things. I think a lot of us probably knew this. If you watched this show, you're probably aware, maybe you're new here, maybe you don't. Just how deep this control goes inside. Maybe the Trump administration and members of Congress. We're going to talk about that coming up here in just a moment.
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Natalie Morris
Also, we're going to talk about how the baby boomers are screaming the loudest about the tariffs, the market reaction. Why is that? You think we're going to have a little deep dive? We're also going to talk to David. David Crayton. About Mark Carney and his continued election and how he's the worst basically.
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Clayton Morris
Right.
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Natalie Morris
That's the premise, right?
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Clayton Morris
Well, his cozying up to China and how, why President Trump is actually aligning himself with Mark Carney who is really, it's kind of actually stunning here. He's actually been lying about meetings that he's had with, with, with, with the Chinese. He lied right to the press about this. We're going to talk to David about that. So we got a lot to talk about on the show today. So let's dive into it. Let's get to the news. So the gray zone managed to get their hands on some shocking newly leaked audio from a private APEC meeting. Now, apec, if you've been living under Iraq, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee and is a pro Israel lobbying group. Now what this audio shows is a group of apex member APEC members, including the leader of apec, boasting how they have special access to Trump's national security officials, including the now head of the CIA. Listen to this. Bob is talking about the people who will get appointed into some of these jobs. Look at the top level, we can talk about Marco, Ramon, Elise and Michael Waltz. Those three people have something in common. They all serve in commerce, they all have relationships with key leaders in their communities. So the lines of communication are good. Should there be something questionable or curious that we need access on the conversationship, you never doubt. One of the first candidates I ever met with is an APAC professional. In my job to meet the candidates.
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Max Blumenthal
For Congress was a guy named John Ratcliffe.
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Clayton Morris
He was challenging a long time member.
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Max Blumenthal
Of Congress in Dallas.
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Clayton Morris
This guy looks like he could win the race and I go talk to him. He had a good understanding of the issues and a couple of weeks ago he took the oath as the CIA director for crying out loud. He was the guy that had a chance to speak. So there are, there are a lot.
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Max Blumenthal
I won't call lifelines, but there are lifelines in that.
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Clayton Morris
Lifelines. So that's a nice way of saying, yeah, we have basically roots, connections into the administration. They call them lifelines. That's a new word. I haven't heard that before. We have lifelines into these people and we basically get, you know, get to control them.
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Natalie Morris
Oh, question. Are those people registered as foreign agents then given that they have this now conflict?
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Clayton Morris
No, because of course they can dance around that by saying that they're American. And that's sort of the caveat here in all of this, right? Laughing about their influence over our, our CIA director And members of the national security team. Max Blumenthal is the journalist from the gray zone that broke the story. Got his hands on this leaked audio and Max joins us now. Max, it's been a long time. Great to have you back on the show. And stunning story here. Max, great to see you.
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Max Blumenthal
Thanks.
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David Crayton
Great to see you both.
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Clayton Morris
So I was struck by the sort of condescension of this guy, Elliot Brandt, sort of laughing. I mean, he's in front of a whole audience of APEX supporters, of course, and he's sort of laughing over Apex and APEX influence over our CIA director. Almost like we guided this guy. We sort of took this little baby bird out of a nest, we sort of guided him and now he's our guy at the CIA. I mean, am I reading that wrong? How did you read it?
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David Crayton
Yeah, exactly. Anybody who comes from Congress into a national security position will have been groomed and vetted and briefed by apac. That's the message he was sending. And that's why they prefer people to come out of Congress. Marco Rubio, at least Stefanik was going to be the UN Ambassador. This lady's not even Jewish, she's Catholic and she sounds like a settler from the West Bank. They pulled her nomination because they needed to shore up their majority in the House. Then you've got Mike Waltz. You know, this is directly connected to Signal Gate, or at least indirectly because we're at war. The United States is at war with the Yemen on behalf of Israel to provide freedom of navigation for his, for Israeli shipping. And Mike Waltz organizes this Signal group and was clearly the one on board with it. He's the one, as I understand it, inside the Trump administration pushing for war with Iran. And here you have the CEO of APAC who says that Mike Waltz is one of their guys. And it's not just the CEO. It's not just a top down operation guiding these national security officials and, and checking in. It's the local legislative director in their district. What Representative Thomas Massie was referring to when he said everyone in Congress has an APAC person and he was attacked for that. Called a conspiracy theorist. But here's the APAC CEO in his own words, in an unguarded setting where he thought that there were no recordings taking place saying exactly what Thomas Massie said, that everyone in Congress is pretty much controlled by a foreign influence operation which is unregistered.
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Natalie Morris
Are there any competing interests, any country that has anywhere near this amount of influence on American policy?
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David Crayton
Well, like the Israel lobby likes to say, Qatar does. And they Pay a lot of think tanks on K Street and try to inject a lot of money in the U. S. Political system, but it doesn't really.
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Clayton Morris
It.
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David Crayton
It doesn't compete. And everything Qatar does is governed by Farah. The think tanks will report these donations. APAC gets around all of this by saying we are just a Jewish American organization advancing pro Israel interests. But these are Americans. But the fact is APAC was once known as the American Zionist Committee. It was founded by someone named Isaiah Kennan who was himself an Israeli agent in the United States acting on behalf of a foreign power. And there was a massive battle in 1964 on registering his committee, and the United States government lost, and that was the end of it. It's sort of like how Israel's allowed to have nuclear weapons, over 250 warheads, and it's completely secret, and the IAEA doesn't even inspect their facility at Dimona. So there's this entire kind of zone of exception around everything Israel does in the United States. And I think that if the American public knew what was really taking place not only in these meetings, but in Congress and in the Pentagon. We had a Pentagon official in this audio who sounded like an Israel lobbyist. There would be massive espionage investigations taking place. Because as we know, through the Larry Franklin scandal in 2004, 2005, AIPAC was an avenue for spiriting classified information out of the Pentagon about Iran and sending it to Israeli intelligence and who's. There's no reason they're not doing this today.
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Clayton Morris
Clearly someone in our chat, John B. Says redacted is pushing this on purpose. Redacted is owned by who? Yeah, we're literally doing a story about it.
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Natalie Morris
What is the corporate interest that wants us to break down Israeli influence? I can't think of who that might be.
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Clayton Morris
Who are we owned by? I'd love to know that. It's hilarious. I want to ask you about this by just laughing my ass off seeing that comment here second ago. But anyway, another moment here, Max. Was this leaked audio? In this leaked audio is an APEC panelist that you guys were unable to identify. Maybe you've now identified this person, but I don't think I've just checked a few minutes ago. I don't think you did. But anyway, this person, you don't know who it is, he's speaking on stage at this APEC conference. He says his greatest concern is social media and that, quote, we're losing the war of ideas. Listen, imagine five years from now, a staff, a congressional staff types into AI Claude, GPT at that point, GPT 14, whatever right says, is supporting Israel bad for American national security? The answer that they get back is going to be informed by the information that's on the Internet today, which is wide. Punching back in the information sphere becomes so important. I would argue exactly the wrong impulse. Because when you disengage, you leave an.
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Natalie Morris
Open playing field for precisely that sort.
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Clayton Morris
Of incision that's going to inform national security decisions five years ago. Yeah. So if you disengage, you've gotta be on the playing field talking about these things. Max, everyone knows, even mentally handicapped people know that supporting Israel militarily hurts America, makes us more vulnerable. It has for decades. As John Mearsheimer writes in his great book the Israel Lobby, there's zero evidence. Zero evidence. And if there is, show it to us. But John couldn't find it. I've never seen it. Zero evidence that supporting Israel militarily helps the United States of America, makes us more vulnerable, more of a target in the United States. So what he's saying here is you've got to be out there on social media because people are going to be saying we're, you know, we're losing, we're losing the war of ideas here. You've got to be pushing this narrative that this is good for America and you've got to basically attack people who say it's bad for America. Am I reading that right?
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Max Blumenthal
Yeah.
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David Crayton
I mean, I don't know if this isn't something they wouldn't have said publicly, but I threw it in there because it's indicative of the anxiety that permeates all Israel lobby activities right now and animates that activity. And it's the fear of the public, fear of public opinion. Israel, he is his speaker, admits he's not a speaker. This Israel lobbyist admits has lost the battle of ideas. And academia is where they think the bad ideas about Palestine being colonized originate from. And that's why the Trump administration is waging this all out censorship war on academia. It's why they're attacking green card holders and permanent residents, trying to remove them from campus in American society. ICE Immigration and Customs Enforcement today just declared that it is aiming to stop illegal ideas from crossing the border, which is completely destroys the concept of the First Amendment. And what the speaker is saying is the reason that these ideas are so threatening is if they start getting into the bloodstream of American culture and in the intelligentsia and they start becoming mainstream, then they're going to get picked up by AI systems. They already are. And if national and AI is going to be like the Oracle in five years, it's going to replace Google and all other search engines and as well as Wikipedia. And if national security advisors to a member of Congress or think tankers start consulting AI for information and research, they're going to get the wrong idea and influence their member of Congress to maybe vote against a military package to Israel or impede arms shipments to Israel because they'll realize what you just said, Clayton, that American and Israeli interests are not actually aligned.
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Natalie Morris
You know, the Bush era wars in the Middle east were obviously led by Israel interest as well. And we had really good propaganda and we had no independent media to push back against it. How the hell can they sell us on a war with Iran now? The President said just this week, you know, other countries have nuclear weapons that shouldn't, but really it's Iran that shouldn't. And that's where we're focused right now. Why do they get to decide who should and should not have nuclear weapons? France, the uk, North Korea, Israel. How are they going to sell that? How do you think that it's possible to sell that to us? Because the rest of us are like, no, you promised us no wars in your inauguration speech. You said, I'm going to be known for the wars I don't get into, but here's a war. Take this one, guys. What do you think the narrative could possibly be beyond a false flag?
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Clayton Morris
Bibby asked me, so I'm going to do it.
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David Crayton
That was a great question. Where is the salesmanship? Is Trump even making the same case? The Bush administration went out there and put forward all these phony narratives about weapons of mass destruction, Saddam and Al Qaeda being on the same side. They had the shock of the 911 attack, so they had a, a period of time in which they could act with total public or majority of the public's consent to attack just some random Arab country that had nothing to do with the attacks, which was consistent with the Ledeen doctrine. And so they did it. But Trump doesn't have some 911 attack, what Paul Wolfowitz, weeks before 911 called a catastrophic and catalyzing event which would be necessary in order for the US to dominate the Middle east again. So what's going to happen? I mean, after the tariffs it does. Trump lacks credibility, including among the capitalist class that helped get him in office. He is seen as untrustworthy by other countries, by the whole world. Will Saudi Arabia and the UAE even trust him to defend their assets if Iran strikes back? So the United States is in a much more weakened position. But you have Israel with its. It has so much more influence over this government and over the U. S. Government as a whole than it even did after 9, 11. Remember, Benjamin Netanyahu testified before the Senate that he was sure that Saddam had wmd. Israel was egging the US on to do that attack as well. So it's really a question of whether Trump just, and his team just decide to unilaterally attack Iran without the consent of the public. The American public is opposed to this, and they're not just opposed to this. They're deeply suspicious about Israel's role in American society and what Israel is. If you look at this new Pew poll that I'm sure you all have covered, most Americans view Israel negatively for the first time. Overwhelmingly. A majority of Democrats, the boomer Democrats, view Israel more negatively by 15% than they did two years ago. And Republicans between 18 and 45, the kind of Republicans who watch this show and who are on social media now, view Israel negatively 50 to 50. So I don't know what, how Trump is even going to sell this to the public. He's not going to go to Congress, and there won't be committee debates. It's just going to be. It would be a disaster for his administration and it would tank the world economy.
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Clayton Morris
What about Jewish Americans? I saw you posted this. I was laughing because, you know, someone in the chat says redacted, hates Jews. Max, I believe you're. I believe you're Jewish, right? And I believe you just got an award and they labeled you a Jew who shouldn't be allowed into Israel. Max Blumenthal, to which you said, I have finally arrived. So how are Jewish Americans? Where do they come down in this polling, by the way? Do they want a war? Do they want to support Israel in a war in the Middle East?
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David Crayton
Well, I got to jump off after this, but there was a poll earlier, last year in the. The midst of the Gaza genocide on what, how Jews felt about that. About 35% of American Jews believed Israel was committing genocide in Gaza. That's a stunning number.
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Clayton Morris
Wow.
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David Crayton
It's. It was almost a plurality if you consider that most Jews still identify as Zionist. And if you look at the polling among Jews who are younger, they're edging closer and closer to my position. I'm a trendsetter. And it's because, you know, there are different kinds of Jews. There are Jews who are raised to believe that never again means never again only for us and that we should be allowed to commit A holocaust against anyone who threatens us or this self proclaimed Jewish state. And there are Jews who believe never again means never again to anyone. And that the lesson of the Holocaust is it should not happen to anyone, including Palestinians. And if it's being committed by us, then we have a special obligation to get in the way and stop it. There's the universalist perspective and the segregationist perspective. And more and more Jews are taking on in the United States where we're living through a golden age, where we are much safer and prosperous and freer than in the state of Israel, are taking on the universalist perspective. So that's what I was raised on. That's what I believe in. And I believe we're witnessing the holocaust of our time in Gaza and that the reputation of Judaism as a faith community is on the line and that Zionism aims to destroy that reputation in the eyes of the world in order to justify Israel as a sanctuary where all the Jews will have to run after their lives in Europe or the United States were destroyed by anti Semitism. So Zionism actually aims to make people more anti Semitic to justify this spartan little settler colony that it's established, this nuclearized settler colony in the heart of the Middle East. So I think if Jews want to fight anti Semitism, they have to first confront Zionism.
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Clayton Morris
Hallelujah.
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Natalie Morris
Thank you, Max. It was great to see you as always. Yeah, great to see you both on Redacted. You're, you're doing the good work. So follow Max on X and at the Gray Zone and all of, all of their fantastic work.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah, thank you so much, Max. Great to see you.
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David Crayton
Thanks for everything you guys are doing and we'll meet soon.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah, thanks, Max. Great work. Yeah, I encourage all of you guys to go over to thegreyzone.com and read this piece. It's really unbelievable. All right, we got more news to get to here on your Thursday. We're going to talk about the boomer. The boomer generation and did they make America great or did they destroy America? And specifically who in that boomer generation? We're going to look at the data here in moments because it's actually pretty specific people.
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Natalie Morris
Clayton's not just specific people.
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Clayton Morris
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Natalie Morris
I don't care, because they're right. Go to sleep. And sign up for Ramp in the morning, Jerry.
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Clayton Morris
Ramp is the corporate card that handles all your tedious financial operations, automatically integrates directly with your ERP and gets. Gives you complete control over every transaction. Ramp gives you everything you need for bulletproof books and a better night's sleep. Wow. That is exactly what my company needs.
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Natalie Morris
Yes.
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Clayton Morris
And exactly what I also need.
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Jerry
Go to sleep, Jerry.
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Clayton Morris
Upgrade to Ramp for free today and get $250@ramp.com that's ramp.com r a m p.com cards issued by Sutton bank members. FDIC terms and conditions apply. How many people do we piss off today? I always like to check in on that. We're just getting started.
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Natalie Morris
Too much.
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Clayton Morris
And we're just getting started. Yeah, I love it. If you get uncomfortable, that means we're doing something right. If we're actually covering stories that make you uncomfortable. If you want. By the way, if you just want sort of like the. The mainstream narrative, you could flip on any of the mainstream news stations and you could see, like, Kristi Gnome, you know, getting her butt kissed over on the. The Jesse Waters program, that kind of stuff. We don't do that here, so if you. If that's what you're into, you can certainly watch.
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Natalie Morris
No, I gladly talk to Kristi Noem, but not to. Yeah, not to kiss any. I don't kiss any butts. But I'm a nice person. I think all of her, you know, role playing in her social media. She looks very pretty. The blowout is really nice.
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Clayton Morris
I love.
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Natalie Morris
I'll do that.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah.
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Natalie Morris
But I will also ask hard questions about whether or not we are complicit in another Guantanamo Bay. So, yeah, we'll do that. She's. She's welcome.
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Clayton Morris
All right. Well, you know, history has a funny way of sorting people out. Some generations build amazing things. Some generations defend freedom, and then some, well, they destroy everything their parents fought for. So I wanted to talk today about the worst generation in American history, the baby boomers. And if you're a boomer watching today on our show, I'm not talking about you because you're awake. You're a part of the solution, not a part of the problem. But let's start with some comparisons here and some context. The greatest generation came home From World War II after defeating fascism, and what did they do next? They built. They built things. They laid down roads. They created jobs. They invented the American suburbs. They gave us the interstate highway system, NASA, the booming middle class. They forged a real economy where a single income could actually buy a home, raise a family, put kids through school. Imagine that. In other words, the greatest generation actually created the American dream. And then the baby boomers showed up. The liberal baby boomers, mostly liberal, or rhinos as well, showed up and basically destroyed everything. They inherited greatness, and then they burned it all to the ground, you know.
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Natalie Morris
Well, in their defense, liberal universities did that to them on purpose.
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Clayton Morris
Well, and also, yes. I mean, if Bill Clinton was a part of that process of putting America, you know, you know, teach for America in place and these activist teachers. And so it was all part of a plan. It was all part of a plan. They inherited this greatness, and then they burned it to the ground for some stock options, some book deals and beachfront homes. They didn't just squander the American dream. They sold it off to China, sold it off to Vietnam, sold it off to Mexico, and more. Want proof? Just look at nafta, for crying out loud. Signed by boomer in chief himself, Bill Clinton in the 1990s. They're surrounded by Republicans. You know, you had George H.W. bush there, you had Al Gore there. You had a lot of different, you know, it was the uniparty, the unit party of boomers. They're all there signing that. In 1990s, it was sold to us, of course, as a pathway to prosperity in the United States of America. In reality, almost immediately after Signing it. America lost over a million manufacturing jobs from NAFTA almost immediately. Millions of jobs going south of the border to Mexico. Ross Perot, of course, wasn't a boomer. He was born in 1930, during the Great Depression, before NAFTA was signed. Ross Perot warned all of us on the campaign trail when he was running against Bill Clinton and George H.W. bush. And he was winning, by the way. He warmed. He warned all of us that if we signed NAFTA that we'd hear a giant sucking sound going south. Watch.
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Max Blumenthal
To those of you in the audience who are business people, pretty simple. If you're paying 12, $13, $14 an hour for factory workers and you can move your factory south of the border, pay a dollar an hour for labor, hire a young 25. Let's assume you've been in business for a long time, you've got a mature workforce, pay a dollar an hour for your labor, have no health care. That's the most expensive single element, making a car. Have no environmental controls, no pollution controls, and no retirement. And you don't care about anything but making money. There will be a giant sucking sound going south.
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Clayton Morris
Oh, boy, was he right. They all laughed. They all laughed at him. They all made fun of him. Dana Carvey made fun of him. Sadly, he dropped out of the race. That was 1991, during the race for the White House. Clinton signed NAFTA, of course, in 1992, after he became President of the United states. And since 1997, we've lost over 90,000 factories in the United States. That's according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics in the United states and the U.S. census. 90,000 factories closed, entire towns completely gutted. And as Steve Isman pointed out yesterday, the free trade baby boomers were dead wrong about nafta.
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Max Blumenthal
What's going on here is you have to go back to the 90s when.
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Clayton Morris
Clinton was pushing NAFTA and China entering the WTO.
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Max Blumenthal
And he basically made two arguments that free trade would improve GDP growth and would create a lot of jobs.
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David Crayton
And he was right on the former.
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Max Blumenthal
And he was dead wrong on the ladder. And, you know, if you travel this country, there are parts of this country that would have been devastated over the last 25 years because of free trade, because they didn't just lose their jobs.
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David Crayton
They lost their towns.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah. This is what's happening to America right now, okay? America is being gutted. America is being destroyed, and it's all by our own doing. We better pay attention, folks. Like, we better wake up and pay attention. This is the primary concern for the United States of America right now. The real dirty story is that the boomers got rich off of all of this, made a lot of money off of it. They called it free trade, but it was economic treason. Even some boomers are starting to admit it. Back in 2017, former Clinton aide Paul Begalla unexpectedly wrote an essay highlighting the destruction of America at the hands of baby boomers. It's published in Esquire magazine. Here was the COVID story. There's his boy, Bill Clinton, right on the COVID And then if you just scroll down a little bit here, as we panned down the article the Worst Generation, or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Hate Boomers by Paul Begalla, they acknowledged it. The worst generation. In it, he confessed the truth. The baby boomers are the most destructive generation in America, he wrote. Wow. Bigala didn't mean it as an attack, but he nailed it. The boomers inherited a global superpower and left us with a broken nation, rising debt, disillusioned youth. I mean, do you talk to, like, young people at all out there who, you know, maybe are in their 20s right now, are trying to make it in their career? Like, do they? They're just. They're completely disillusioned. You wonder why? They voted for Trump in overwhelming numbers. They're sick of it. And now these same boomer elites are whining on social media about how Trump is ruining their stock portfolios. One of the most viral moments happened this week on X the past few days. This sums it up perfectly. Tim Wise writes. Hey, for all you MAGA cultists who keep saying the market slump doesn't matter because 20 and 30 year olds, plenty of time to make up losses. Seriously, what is your answer for people retiring now who thought they were good until your guy effed it up? What's your answer? Tough. To which this younger person writes, my favorite response of all time. Yes, my answer is tough. Just like your generation's answer to millennials and zoomers who were unable to get a job, buy a home, have a family, or save for our own retirement was, quote, tough shit. This is your karmic reckoning, carefully curated. From the moment you abandoned the unwritten obligation every generation always had to leave the world a better place for the next generation, you stole our jobs, you stole our houses, you stole our pensions, you stole our rents, you stole our futures. You made the world infinitely worse for us in every way. Also, you could have a boost in your portfolio and spend a historically unprecedented 20 years at the end of your Entitled lives sitting on a beach in Florida. You know why millennials and zoomers don't care about what's happening right now? It's not because we think we'll make it up later. It's because we've already accepted we'll never make it up. This is a normal day for us. This has been our reality our entire effing lives. Welcome, enjoy. Pull yourselves up by your bootstraps, skip the avocado toast and print off a few resumes. Ouch. So boomers sold out our jobs, our wages, our future to China. And now they want sympathy because Trump put America before their investment portfolios. And Trump loves the stock market. Sorry, no tears here. But let's talk some real numbers. In the 1980s, the national debt was 907 billion. Imagine that. Wrap your heads around that. The national debt, 907 billion. In America today, it's over 36 trillion. They ran up credit card. The credit card debt and handed us the bill. The average student loan debt right now, $37,000 for college in the United States. And what does it get you? By the way, tuition is up 1,200% in the US since the 1980s. Boomers paid out $1,000 a year for college education. Did you guys know that? College education for boomers. Thousand dollars. We get a 30 year debt sentence just to get a job that they already outsourced to Mexico and Vietnam. And it doesn't end there, by the way. In 1980, the median home price was $47,000. Today, $431,000 in the U.S. somebody says, I'm out.
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Natalie Morris
This anti boomer rhetoric. This is not anti boomers the generation. This is anti boomer leadership.
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Clayton Morris
Yes.
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Natalie Morris
It's what they did while you were working your ass off and you didn't know. So if you're a boomer, this is not to you.
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Clayton Morris
And I said that at the beginning.
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David Crayton
Yeah.
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Natalie Morris
So this is what they did behind your back. And my generation now is saying we're going to watch them for what they did to our parents and us as the children of boomers.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah.
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Natalie Morris
So that's not for you. Don't, don't start crying about this. This is not you.
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Clayton Morris
Yes.
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Natalie Morris
And unless you're Bill Clinton, then it is you.
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Clayton Morris
Okay. It's the liberal boomers and Rhino boomers, by the way, who are part of the Unit party that got us into this mess. And it's those who were born after World War II that tore down the Greatest Generation. So in 1980, the median home price was $47,000. Today, it's over $431,000. How are young people supposed to be able to work a job, buy a home at that price? It's nearly impossible. How are they going to do it? Boomers bought homes with single income, no college debt, one spouse, stayed home, raised children. Not anymore. We're drowning in inflation. Gig work, and then we rent. Rent we can barely afford. According to the New York Fed, credit card debt in America just passed $1.13 trillion for the first time ever. So not only can't they afford it, they're swimming in mountains of debt. Right now. These younger generations are not living lavishly. They're putting groceries on credit cards. Meanwhile, baby boomers own 53% of all the wealth in the United States. That's why there's so much crying this week on national television by people like this Jim Cramer. These boomers are the TV anchors. They're the TV guests that you see all the time. They own all the wealth in this country. So no wonder Jim Cramer is crying. And millennials, they own just 6% of the wealth. Only 6% in the United States. That's why this shirt is going viral today, because millennials don't give a shit about baby boomers losing money in their stock portfolios. I survived the Trump recession from the 7th of April to the 9th of April, 2025. And just when you thought they couldn't mess up anything else, boomers even destroyed our showers and told us to use paper straws. They wanted to condescend and tell us all how to live our lives. In 1992, under Bill Clinton, boomer regulators passed federal regulation rules that restricted how much water could come out of your shower head. And then President Biden doubled down on it. Even Seinfeld mocked it at the time. Watch. Hey, the super's in my bathroom changing my shower head. Have they changed your shower head? No, he's doing mine next. They're low flow, you know, low flow. I don't like the sound of that. Jerry. Jerry, you too?
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Natalie Morris
Yeah. These showers are horrible.
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Clayton Morris
That's right. Boomer tyranny rejected your own bathroom. I mean, reached your own bathroom. The tyranny reached your own bathroom. And President Trump yesterday signed an executive order getting rid of it, by the way. So, low flow nonsense. Weak pressure. You need 10 minutes just to rinse shampoo out of your hair. So President Trump ended that yesterday. So the worst generation in American history, the baby boomers, destroyed everything, even showers. But the worse than that is that boomers became the. The. The generation of War how did this happen? They became the generation of loving wars. Boomers used to chant make love, not war. Now they wave Ukrainian flags from their homes on Martha's Vineyard and beg for World War Three. They gave us endless foreign wars, really, starting under Bill Clinton and into the Obama era. The Patriot act, surveillance under George W. Bush. Another rhino, not a true conservative. Wall street bailouts. No one went to prison. Drag shows in elementary schools across the country, Pornography in our libraries for children, and fentanyl crisis killing hundreds of thousands of Americans a year. That's what they gave us. They didn't just ruin the economy, they destroyed the culture of America. Younger Americans, especially the working class, have had enough. We're not falling for these boomer lies anymore. We're not joining their wars. We're not chasing their degrees or paying for their broken system anymore. So President Trump has tapped into a generational fury right now that I think is getting worse, getting worse by the minute. These younger generations are fed up with what these boomers did to us. The same boomers who are now spending their days going to pay George Soros protests against Doge. Imagine being so clueless that you're upset that Doge is eliminating waste, fraud and abuse in our government. It's all baby boomers showing up at these rallies. Or largely, overwhelmingly, baby boomers showing up here. Very few young people. I love this one young liberal who went to a rally and was shocked that there were no young people, only seniors. Listen to this liberal upset about all of the seniors at these rallies. Watch. Can I chime in real quickly? Just want to make sure I did.
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Jerry
Not censor this so the original language.
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Clayton Morris
Is still in it. Okay, I forgot to do that.
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Natalie Morris
Okay, so you got a language warning.
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Clayton Morris
Language warning. Everyone listen to this liberal's dirty mouth. Watch. I'm at the protest right now in New York City. Anti Trump, anti fascist protest.
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David Crayton
And I have one question.
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Clayton Morris
Where the is Gen Z? These people are cheering. They're talking like it's just the 60s. It's just like the 60s and they're having conversations and walking slowly. There's no fight here. There's no youth here. It's all 30 somethings and their children and then seniors and God bless everybody who showed up up today. But I'm really disappointed in the youth turnout. Where is the youth turnout? This is your future that is going to be impacted by the actions of the Trump administration. Yeah, really, it's the Trump administration's fault. Yeah. You know where they are? Where, where are these young people? They're at their Jobs. They're probably working hard, actually. Probably working very hard to try to put food on the table right now to actually sustain a living while these boomers are out there protesting. Elon Musk, ask. Well, did you, Donald Trump. Go ahead. Did you see Doordash enthusiastically added financing to their. Like, you can order their food now through DoorDash and finance it. What, through, like, a firm and things like that. Oh, my God. That's how bad it's going to loan for a cheeseburger. Yes. Yeah, you almost need to. And I'm really thinking about how are young people going to be able to afford their future? I mean, yesterday we went for lunch, we took our son because he had a doctor's appointment. So we popped over and went and got got. We got a little lunch and just for the three of us for like a real basic, real simple, small lunch. It was like over $40. I was like, there's no way. And it wasn't. We didn't sit down, didn't have service tables, and it was just real fast. And it was crazy. $40. How are young people gonna afford their future? So they're working. They're not hanging out these, these George Soros funded protests, right?
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Natalie Morris
And think of who this, you know, this leadership class of the Bushes and the Clintons, who did they protect? Right? So they gave all of this lip service to, oh, we're protecting the elderly from frauds and scams while they let. While we were in college, we got predative predatory credit cards in our student union mailed to us ad nauseam with inflated educational prices. Who was protecting the young people then? Right? And it wasn't. And again, most of us just didn't know because it was done under the guise of so many, so many nonsensical logic, so much not, you know, we just were never told the truth. And the one thing that this generation of leaders was really good at was a bait and switch. We're doing great things here while we're doing things over here. It's taken years to unravel everything that they did.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah. And Instacart does it, too. Nathan says in our chat. Nathan says that Instacart does the same thing as Doordash does now, too. That's crazy. So. Yeah, and the thing is, it's like 30% interest, too.
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David Crayton
So you're buying a meal at 30% interest just to eat, like.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah. So get out there and protest. Elon Musk. Yeah, get out there and protest the $36 trillion in debt. No, no, don't do that. Go protest President Trump for cutting that waste, fraud and abuse. And look, I don't support President Trump on a, on a number of issues, specifically on the Middle east right now. You know, I've been very vocal about that. But on this actually trying to make America a manufacturing hub again and actually bring jobs back to the United States. Absolutely. And he's a boomer. He may be the boomer that actually can do something about this. I don't know. He was born in 1946. He is a boomer. He's like the ultimate boomer by the definition of a boomer. So the baby boomers will go down in history as the most selfish, destructive and short sighted generation America has ever seen. They inherited greatness and return debt, drag shows and dollar store towns with no factories. But the good news is there's a new generation is ready to rebuild what these boomers destroyed. And again, if you're watching this and you're a boomer, I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about the uni party boomers who destroyed this country. So that's all I have to say about that. But the data, the data is overwhelming and incredibly destructive. So anyway, we've got more news.
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Natalie Morris
Also, I don't think that it helps to feel smug about your generation getting it better. Right? That never helps because we can learn from our, from the boomers of what did they think was happening while the politicians were doing this? I think that that tends to be a very anti feminist message is like my mom, she just didn't understand sexual freedom or abortion rights or what, you know, the fact that she was a slave to her, that, that tends to be a destructive, there's always this destructive narrative of like my generation can do it better and then we don't learn. And so what we can learn from the boomer gener generation now is what did you think Bill Clinton was doing? What were you sold? Right. That's where we can come together right now.
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Clayton Morris
Well, we didn't have independent media back then who were able to sound the alarms on it. You had literally Larry King doing a debate between Al Gore and, and Ross Perot, you know, trying to sell it to the American people. And like who looked more polished that night on the show was the one that won the debate, Al Gore, etc. So that's all you had. You didn't have the independent media that you have now. And hopefully we can sound the alarm about it. Maybe that's why there's no young people showing up at these, these George Soros funded rallies because they're, they, they don't fall for it.
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Natalie Morris
Right.
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Clayton Morris
They're not watching cnn, you know, they're, they're plugged in. So I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. Leave a comment below. Thank you for the likes. By the way, you can smash the like button. We appreciate that. All right, we've got more news to get to here. On your Thursday, we're going to talk.
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Natalie Morris
About Mark Carney and his cozy relationship with China. We're also going to talk about now Texas is suing Kellogg while investigating Kellogg for all the poison in their food. And we're gonna talk to an expert about that as well. And will that continue to be a trend? Can we actually. Maha. We came here to. Maha. Can we. Maha. But before we do that, we wanna tell you about our friends over at Lear Capital because you might have noticed that as the stock market dances the tango, it's up, it's down, it does a dip, it does a twirl. Gold and silver have not been doing that as much because those are actual tangible assets and in fact, they're both, both up. That's why we always recommend that you stay proactive no matter what the market does and protect your hard earned money with physical gold and silver. Our friends over at Lear Capital can help you. They'll show you how easy it is to move some of your savings or your retirement account as well into gold and silver that holds its value and protects your wealth. Don't be complacent. You can call Lear Capital and they will have a very personal conversation with you and they will start from wherever you are. They don't rush you. It's a very personal experience by going over to Lear redacted.com or you can give them a call at 800-613-3557 and get your free gold and silver Wet Wealth Protection Guide. There's no obligation, just free information. You've seen it when we've had the founder Kevin Demerit on the show. This company is solid and it's all about education. With over 27 years of experience and thousands of 5 star reviews, $3 billion in trusted transaction and the only company with a 24 hour risk free purchase guarantee. You don't pay until you're 100% satisfied. So again, you can also ask how you get $15,000 in bonus gold or silver with a qualified purchase. So head on over to Lear.com or give them a call at 1-800-613-3557. Again, we recommend you do this. And again, get an education about precious metal. It's Lear.
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Clayton Morris
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Natalie Morris
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Clayton Morris
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Jerry
Go to sleep, Jerry.
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Clayton Morris
Upgrade to Ramp for free today and get $250@ramp.com that's ramp.com r a m p.com cards issued by Sutton bank members of DIC. Terms and conditions apply. Well, Canada's unelected Prime Minister Mark Carney has a plan for Canada that goes back years. Giving away Canada's sovereignty to a globalist cabal that's cozying up to China. Apparently, journalist Whitney Webb has called Carney a complete snake. Friend of the show, Whitney Webb, she said, because Carney has spent the last several years selling a new version of neocolonial debt slavery as, quote, sustainable development. So why is President Trump supporting Carney, a guy who can't even answer a question like this about China's love fest for him?
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Jerry
Watch from understanding. You know, some of the campaign was pushing positive narratives about you. Why do you think that China, the prc, seems to like you?
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Clayton Morris
Why are they praising you? I have absolutely no idea. And I, I. Yeah, I have absolutely no idea. And I think it. Well, I'll leave it at that. Okay, David Crayton just did a live stream today saying why Canadians must reject Carney, and he joins us now on this. David, great to see you from Canada, from Ottawa, Canada. So how is this resonating, the sort of cozying up to China, his sort of love fest about it, and frankly lying about how close he actually is to these globalists who support China. How is this resonating in Canada?
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Max Blumenthal
Increasingly poorly, let's put it that way. The Globe and Mail reported today that during the leadership liberal leadership race, Mark Carney had met with executives of the Jiangsu Commerce Council of Canada. This is a front for the Communist Party of China and it is so pro China, it's incredible. But Carney denied he did it. This is how politically stupid he can be. He denied he was there. And of course, the Globe easily found photographic evidence of Carney glad handing it with these Chinese executives. Every week we have these things. It's the same thing.
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Clayton Morris
Let's put these pictures up here on the screen. We have these pictures right here. Take a look. So, yeah, he, in a press conference was asked about this. You know, did you meet with these guys? And he said, well, you can't read everything you. You can't trust everything you read. Certainly you can't read everything. You trust everything you read in the Globe and Mail when they reported that he actually met with them and then they posted the receipts like, here, Here he is in the photos.
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Max Blumenthal
Yeah, well, when they. When the mains. When. When Mark Carney and the liberals start to cry fake news in the mainstream media, you know, they're desperate because the mainstream media was very understanding of Mark Carney when he first came on the scene. Didn't ask any questions about his finances, didn't ask about the close relationship with China. In the last couple of weeks, it's all been coming out in a torrent, I must say, because now we know that Mark Carney has for years been advocating the replacement of the US Dollar with the Chinese yuan as the global currency. We know that Mark Carney met with Chinese central bankers last October while he was supposed to be in Beijing representing Canada. And he got a $276 million loan from the Chinese central bank. Came home with that. We know that WeChat. And that was what that question was about when you played that news conference at the beginning of this segment. WeChat was supporting Mark Carney from the very beginning of his liberal leadership race. Exactly the same talking points. It's incredible. It's like Mark Carney and his staff were writing this. It's exactly the same talking points Carney was using every day on the campaign trail, and he continues to use. He's got about five or six of them. This was all on WeChat. Go ahead.
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Natalie Morris
Sorry. Well, you report that he regularly draws inspiration from Marx and Engels and Lenin. And one of his main tenets is asking Canadians to live a smaller life for this purpose of globalism and this purpose of the environment and what have you. You know, don't fly, don't eat, whatever. Why. Why is that not painfully obvious to Canadians who are voters who are ready to go to the polls and support him?
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Max Blumenthal
Yeah, I think it's increasingly becoming obvious to voters. Because when the mainstream media begins to report this information, there's something definitely changing here.
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Natalie Morris
The.
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Max Blumenthal
The narrative is being challenged by not just people like myself and people like on Stacked and other new media and independent media. It's being challenged by people who would once upon a time, give Mark Carney all the benefit of the doubt that he asked for, the Globe and Mail included. And CBC has actually been asking impertinent questions about the fact that Mark Carney was funneling all of his profits from Brookfield Assets Management to Bermuda. So he didn't have to pay any taxes. They were all going to a bicycle shop in Bermuda. This sort of corruption is completely cutting into the reason the liberals put Mark Carney out there. And that was because he was supposedly a man of integrity. He had been a banker for most of his life. He had worked for these global institutions like the World Economic Forum and the United Nations. This was a man of integrity. And of course, the more we know about Mark Carney, the more we discover about his globalist leanings and the fact he's very much in the pocket of China, the less Canadians are liking this man and the more we realize he is completely lacking in integrity. And people are actually asking him at rallies now about what was Giselle Maxwell doing at the farm with you and your wife? Why were you in photos with a crony of Jeffrey Epstein? Why is your wife included in the Jeffrey Epstein contact list?
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Clayton Morris
Yeah. And then you write today or yesterday on the Blaze, you wrote this article about what does Trump see in Canada's pro China prime minister? And Trump has really aligned himself with Carney, which is surprising to a lot of us. I don't understand it. So what do you think? You know, maybe you can kind of walk through that a little bit here. Here, quickly. What does Trump see in Canada's Mark Carney?
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Max Blumenthal
All I can surmise is that Donald Trump is hoping for the complete collapse of child Canada through Mark Carney's election as prime minister. Because I can tell you this, one of the primary reasons Donald Trump first threatened Canada with 25% tariffs on all produce, all goods was because of the lax border security and the flow of fentanyl into the United States from Canada. And of course, Canadians said, what fentanyl? Well, we've since discovered there is horrendous amounts of fentanyl being dumped at the Vancouver ports from China. And is China directly involved in this? Is the government? Of course they are. This is very much a part of this. Now, does Donald Trump think for a minute that Mark Carney, who is so in the pocket of China, who is so beholden to Beijing, is going to stop this flow of fentanyl when the Chinese government and China wants it to come into Canada. Is he going to make any effort at all? I don't think so. I think Pierre Poliev is much more apt to do that. He has said that repeatedly. Mark Carney, I think, will be disinclined to take any action because he doesn't want to say anything that would be an affront to his relationship to China. It's sad, but I think if there's a silver lining to all of this information, Clayton and Natalie, it's that Canadians are finally discovering who this guy was who suddenly appeared on the scene after Justin Trudeau announced he was resigning as Prime Minister and Liberal leader. Canadians did not know this man at all. And he was sold to Canadians as not only the savior of the Liberal Party, but a savior for Canada who would rescue us from those 10 years of Justin Trudeau, which Mark Carney was intimately involved in as a senior advisor to that government. So this is all a charade. This is all camouflage. This is all about selling a man who has absolutely no business being Prime Minister of Canada, who was installed here by the globalists, who will be supported throughout any time he's in office by China. He stands behind a podium every day that says Canada Strong. It is a joke because Mark Carney's podium should read China Strong. That's who he's been fighting for for many, many years.
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Clayton Morris
Wow. David Crayton. I would encourage all of you to read his piece over at the Blaze Media on Mark Carney from yesterday and follow him on X. David, great to see you as always.
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Natalie Morris
David sent you so much a link on X to Mark Carney's book, because he's like, read for yourself. And I said, It's 500 pages. Hopefully this guy doesn't get elected. And I don't have to. I don't want to read it. I trust your analysis, though.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah.
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Max Blumenthal
He's a Marxist, Leninist. No question about it. Yeah.
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Natalie Morris
Can we just get him out and then I don't have to do the research, but if he gets elected, I will.
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Max Blumenthal
Nice talking to you both, Slayton and Natalie.
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Natalie Morris
Yeah.
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Clayton Morris
Thanks, David. Oh, boy. Well, coming up here on the show, we're going to talk with the food bank, Gabe herself, Vani Hari, about this battle over cereal. You know, of course, you guys know cereal is one of the worst things you can put in your body that's been sold to Us for generations, thanks to the folks at Kellogg's way back in the day. Like, get rid of the bacon and your fresh farm fresh eggs.
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Natalie Morris
Oh, it came from the Christian fundamentalist group. We're going to talk about this. Yes, it's a total propaganda. If by now you think cereal is a good thing to eat, we cannot help you. This, this information has been out there for a long time. But we're going to talk about whether or not states are actually going to legislate now to get this poison out.
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Clayton Morris
But first, you know what else has been covered up? Well, the dark side of melatonin supplements. Since melatonin is a hormone, if we take too much of it, then our body stops producing it naturally. A lot of people rely on this to go to sleep at night. New studies have shown that kids who have chronically high melatonin don't get into puberty until a very late age. Melatonin suppresses puberty, messes with testosterone levels. It's horrible. To give you an inside idea about this, if you give melatonin to a Siberian hamster, its testes go from the size of a marble to the size of a grain of rice within a week. You don't want that, don't you? Thankfully, there's hope. Dr. Andrew Huberman, a neuroscientist tenured professor at Stanford University, recently revealed what he calls his favorite sleep cocktail. Watch this. My favorite sleep cocktail, based on really good solid peer reviewed science is magnesium threonate and something called apigenin, which is basically a derivative of chamomile. Those two things work really well. They essentially shut down the forebrain. Thinking, anticipating part of your brain allow you to drift off into sleep really well. I need that all day. Then if you could shut that down. Theanine is the third thing in the cocktail isn't theanine. That is also a nootropic. So theanine also turns on what's called the GABA system. It's like an inhibitory neurotransmitter and helps suppress anxiety and kind of turn off thinking. It helps you make the transition into sleep. I'll write all of those things down because I think I do need this. These are a game changer. I'll be amazed if it. Yeah, and I take it every night now, thanks to our friends at Black Forest Supplements. It's fantastic. I've been sleeping so good with it. Black forestsupplements.com redacted. You buy two, you get one free for the next 48 hours. They have all of These ingredients in there and more. And they're calling it Sleep X. It Takes an Average takes advantage of the latest cutting edge science to help you not only fall asleep sleep, but stay asleep naturally. Forget about destroying your ability to fall asleep with melatonin or using Big Pharma's dangerous addictive sleeping pills. It's fantastic. I'm telling you. Try it right now. Blackforestsupplements.com redacted buy two, get one free for the next 48 hours. Try their SleepX and their Sleep and stress reduction formula. It's fantastic. Their supplements are great, so try them today. This podcast is sponsored by Random. I can't sleep. What is it now? It's the company. It's chaos. What's chaos now? The numbers, the expenses, the books. What if we get audited? No one's gonna audit you at 3am Go to sleep. I can't sleep. You could if you used Ramp. Who said that?
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Natalie Morris
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Clayton Morris
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Natalie Morris
All right, well, the Texas Attorney General has launched an investigation into Kellogg over their use of dangerous food dyes and other chemical chemicals. They say that Kellogg has known that these products are dangerous for a very long time because they cannot sell them in Europe, but they willingly continue to sell them to Americans. Well, Vanny Hari has been covering this on her profile on X, which is at the Food babe or just foodbabe.com. one of the things she covered specifically is how big, big food gets in the way of the right decisions for politicians. And she joins us today to discuss. Thank you so much for joining us.
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Jerry
Thanks for having me. Good to see you.
- [60:20]
Clayton Morris
Welcome back. Yeah.
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Natalie Morris
So tell us why you're so excited about this investigation from Ken Paxton's office and what this may be the beginning of.
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Jerry
Yeah, he's, you know Ken Paxton. He's a new sheriff in town. He's going to lasso up Kellogg's like cattle and show them who's boss. Finally, Kellogg's is one of those companies that unfortunately has just been lying to the American public for so long. Back in 2015, they decided to remove artificial food dyes from their products like they sell in so many other countries like Canada and Australia, Korea, India, all of Europe. And instead of doing that, they actually started to create new cereals targeting the, the toddlers of today, using the most popular toddler songs like Baby Shark cereal and Disney's Little Mermaid and Peeps. It's coming up for Easter here, there's a Peeps cereal with all kinds of artificial food dyes in them. You know, these artificial food dyes are linked to hyperactivity in children. The way that they're produced from petroleum and coal tar, they become contaminated with carcinogens. So they're linked to cancer. This is one of the reasons why red number three, for example, was recently banned by the fda, because they looked at these studies and they saw that they caused cancer in animal studies. But this is something that's being inundated in cereals and all kinds of products across the United States. But our big food companies, PepsiCo, Kellogg's, General Mills, Coca Cola and others, have taken out these dyes for so many other countries, but continue to serve us this poison. Back in 2010, European regulators put a warning label, a cigarette type warning label on any product that had artificial food dyes. And instead of putting that warning label on their product, Big Food decided to remove these chemicals, reformulate their products using things like blueberry and carrot juice and paprika and beta carotene in their products in other countries, but didn't do this for their own American citizens. And I think that this is one of the most hypocritical double standards that exist within the food industry. And the reason I took on Kellogg's is because not only did they lie and say they were going to do this back in 2015, and they said they were going to do it by 2018, and they never did. But they're targeting little children. And when my daughter was just two years old in 2019 and she picked up a box of that Baby Shark cereal, I was excited. I was like, they've taken out artificial food dyes. Let me look at the ingredients. And I couldn't believe that they were creating new products with this. And now, because of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. S incredible leadership under President Trump and taking the voice of me and so many other moms out there and dads that have risen these issues up into the national conversation about how we are tired of the American food companies serving us a less safe version of their products to us here in America, when they've already figured out how to make their product better and safer for citizens in other countries. And when we look at the dire rates of disease in this country, the obesity, the cancer, the heart disease rates, and how we have the most out of any developing country, the fact that 38% of preteens are being diagnosed with pre diabetes, but we have Fruit Loops saying that there's, you know, Fruit Loops is low fat, healthy cereal, good source of vitamins and minerals.
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Clayton Morris
You know.
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Jerry
Yeah, yeah. Ken Paxton is going to hold these comp. This company accountable not only for the fact that they lied to consumers in Texas by saying they're going to remove these dyes, but the fact that they're saying that the cereal is healthy. This cereal is not only full of artificial food dyes, but it's mostly filled with genetically engineered corn and sugar that starts with a seed that's designed to withstand heavy doses of Roundup, which has glyphosate in it, which is linked to cancer and implicated in court cases across the United States to cause cancer. Then you've got not only these additives in it, but literally it's synthetic vitamins and minerals that they're adding to poisonous ingredients. And this is something that finally someone's holding Big Food accountable. And I have to tell you something. You know, when, when this came out, I was so excited because we took over 400,000 signatures to battle Creek, Michigan to give Kellogg's a clue like they need to do something about this. Instead, they showed us signs in their windows that said get off our lawn. Well, that didn't work because that, that took. Not only made me mad, but it made leaders like RFK Jr mad to the point where he said, the first thing I'm going to do is get food companies to remove these artificial food dyes. And this is exactly what he did in the meeting where he met with many Big Food leaders and asked them to do this. But what it's now doing is it's getting other important things to happen, like this new investigation in Texas. And, and the funny thing is, is when I saw the AG Ken Paxton announce his run for Senate, I thought, oh, he's, you know, oh, he's just trying to get popular by taking on this very popular issue with the Maha moms and all of that. And like, that's not the case. So when I went to go like, thank him on Instagram, he reached out to me back in September of last year. He must have heard my Senate testimony where I first talked about these issues and reached out to me and wanted to talk about this. And I just missed it. And so I missed it.
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Clayton Morris
Wow.
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Jerry
Yeah. I was so excited to see that he was on my radar back in September, way before all this momentum we've had on these issues. And so thank you, Ken Paxton, for looking at this. I'm excited running for the Senate. I think we need more people running for the Senate that are looking at that. Food is medicine and trying to hold big food accountable. Now this is just the first attorney general taking this on. I see in my future many other states start to do this too. Looking at their state laws, looking how Kellogg's has potentially violated that by not only lying to consumers, saying they're going to do one thing and they never did, but also, you know, advertising their product as healthy when it's clearly not, you know, Kellogg's.
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Natalie Morris
I think maybe most people don't know this and I'd like to tell this quick story. Is the original sinner in bringing the idea of processed carbohydrates into the American diet. And that came, maybe most people don't know this from Ellen G. White, one of the founders of the Seventh Day Adventist Church, when she had a dream that we should only eat like the Garden of Eden and eat no meat or animal products and only fruits and vegetables. The person who typeset her book was John Preston Kellogg, who then went on to use the Seventh Day Adventist Church to infiltrate the government in order to pervert the food pyramid and make Americans think that this was a convenience food. So they've been selling us this since 1863. So it's not just the processed, the ingredients, it's the processed food. It's the processed food at all from the inception, bringing us away from an animal based diet. So for me, I want all of that, not just these little components, but the history too. The problem is that a libertarian argument might be, well, then just Americans should see this for themselves, see their health declining and reject it. But if you look into how food is engineered to be addictive, like cigarettes, like alcohol, like drugs, a great book on that is the Dorito Effect, then that argument doesn't hold because of the predatory marketing and the engineering of the food to be addictive. Right?
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Jerry
Yeah. You know, you mentioned the Dorito effect. That's an incredible book. And it really uncovers this issue of the fact that the majority of foods in grocery store shelves, the processed dead food that you see in the middle of the aisles that are Packaged and can be left on the shelf for many, many months. That food wouldn't taste good if it wasn't for this specific flavoring ingredient called natural flavor or artificial flavor added to it. And you'll see it into, you know, 90% of packaged goods because when something sits on a shelf, it not only loses flavor, but a lot of times they're not using real food ingredients. And so they have to, they cover up all the man made chemicals that they're putting together and food like substances that they're putting together in this processed food. And so they're looking at these flavoring components that they can create in a laboratory. They can create the 1,000,000th best part of a taste to literally hijack your brain. What I want to ask is how, how, how can humans even compete against a robot that is that PepsiCo for example, has to mimic human taste buds. How can humans actually handle the science and go beyond that and like live a healthy life and eat these products? They can't. And that's why you have to go to real food. And this is, you know, this is one of the aha moments that a lot of people need to recognize is the tobacco companies unlock this flavoring component and how it can trick your brain. And how they got us addicted to cigarettes. Well, they started to use that same technology towards food when they started buying up the food companies several years ago. And so, so this is something that's inherent in creating addiction and getting us to spend more money at the grocery store on these products and eat more than what our body can handle. Because literally they figured out how to turn off our society and so that our stomachs become more full before our brain recognizes it with the technology that they're using. And one of the most sinister things that's happening right now is that because of the rise of Ozempic, they are concerned that people are snacking less and they think that is a huge threat to their profits. And so they've already, they're already conducting science on how to circumvent the GLP1 drugs in their products and what chemicals that they can put in the food and processed food products so that if you are someone who's taking Ozempic thinking you are going to get thin and continue to eat the way you you are. Well, think again because big food is going to figure out a way to hook you to their product.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah, it's ridiculous. And if you think about we lived in Europe for five years and you go to the grocery store, you don't see any of these American cereals on the store shelves for a reason. We think all these Kellogg's, it's a great American company, they probably have our Americans best interest at heart.
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Natalie Morris
But we should be careful to not romanticize European food. It is not the panacea that you think it is. It's just a rejection of certain components. They have their own.
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Clayton Morris
Oh, the dye, specifically yellow dye. Dye.
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Natalie Morris
Plenty of crappy Europeans.
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Jerry
Well, I mean, just looking at the sheer amount of chemicals that are allowed in our food system here. Over 10,000 chemicals allowed in our food system that the food companies have largely gone unregulated. They, they literally can bypass any kind of third party review at the FDA because of this grass loophole, generally regarded as safe loophole that allows the chemical companies that create the chemicals to introduce them into the environment and look at the safety data themselves or not even have any safety data. And that's the reason why we have 10,000 here, whereas in Europe there's only close to 400. We have to close that gap. And that is one of the things that Secretary Kennedy is looking at happening with this, this, this work that he's doing with the grass loophole in looking at closing that so that they can not only not allow chemical and food companies to approve chemicals for use themselves, but also go to post market research and look at the chemicals that have been introduced to our food supply and look at the safety data and using AI to see what can happen really quickly in terms of getting these additives out of our American diet that don't belong there.
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Clayton Morris
Vani Hari is the food babe. Well, you know, you got to check your DMs, I guess, more often. Ken Paxton's reaching out to you. You're not paying attention to him. Thank you for the great work that you've been doing. Thank you for educating all of us about this. And yeah, I hope like you, more of these attorneys General across the United States will, will take up this banner. Thank you. Vani, great to see you again.
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Jerry
Thank you. Take care.
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Clayton Morris
Unbelievable. Yeah, well, hopefully more of them will, will take this up. All right, well, hey, we are going to wrap up today's show. This is our last, last live show here in this temporary studio. We're building out our whole new studio over the next week or so. It's going to be a little crazy. So we'll have sort of some temporary digs for like the next week, but in the vet, you know, in the meantime, we're still waiting on, we're having to deal with some, some stuff with with some of the aluminum stuff that we're building.
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Natalie Morris
A little nerve wracking because to say goodbye to a set that works and then we're going to tear it down and move. We're pretty sure that we're gonna broadcast on Monday. We're gonna be here, but.
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Clayton Morris
But David will make sure that everything works flawlessly. It'll be on him to make sure it's all on me. Perfect.
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Natalie Morris
That's right, David. Make sure everything's your weekend.
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Clayton Morris
That's your no. So we will be in the temporary digs next week and then we're going to be building that out after that. So just hang tight with us. We really appreciate it. But today we have our special Rumble Premium only show which will follow here, our live stream. So we're going to say goodbye to everyone over on YouTube. If you are a Rumble Premium subscriber, we're going to hang out and just, you know, shoot the, shoot the bull for a little while. If you want to come over to. If you're not a Rumble Premium subscriber, then you can quickly just like join up and whatever and support free speech if you'd like to. But we're going to hang out here and do a little post show hangout for a while. So if you're on Rumble and you're a Rumble Premium subscriber, nothing will change. But if you're not, you won't be able to see. I think you'll just be able to hear it. I'm not exactly sure. But anyway, no, you can't. You can't.
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Natalie Morris
You can.
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Clayton Morris
Only you can still chat, but you can't do anything else. So. And that doesn't mean we're. The show's going away like people thought last week. This is just an after show premium little hangout. So regular show. We'll be back Monday as usual. Yeah, yeah, free always. But if you want to support Rumble Premium ad, free everything and support free speech over on Rumble, come on over there and join us. We're going to hang out. So. All right. Gonna say to Natalie's got to go pick up our daughter. So I'm gonna hang out.
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Natalie Morris
I am dismissed. Twist. Okay, everybody, we'll see you next week from the news in the new studio. Have a great weekend. Make sure you go on X and say no war with Iran.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah, no war with Iran. Let's see.
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Natalie Morris
Okay. Yeah, that's that. Okay, bye. Bye then.
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Clayton Morris
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