Podcast Summary: "Leave Now Or Be Assassinated" CIA Backed Coup In Venezuela Has Begun | Redacted News

Date: October 27, 2025
Hosts: Clayton Morris & Natali Morris
Guests: John Kiriakou, Steve Baker, Dr. Pierre Kory

Episode Overview

This episode of Redacted News zeroes in on explosive claims of a CIA-backed coup attempt in Venezuela, the broader implications for US foreign entanglements, and overlapping pressures on transparency, accountability, and critical media scrutiny in several high-profile stories. The Morrises combine on-the-ground reporting with interviews from notable whistleblowers and independent journalists, pushing back against prevailing media narratives, exposing legal irregularities in the Charlie Kirk murder case, doubts about FBI transparency on the DNC/RNC pipe bomber, and growing skepticism about COVID vaccine headlines, especially as they intersect with the pharmaceutical industry.

Key Segments & Insights

1. Coup Attempt in Venezuela: The CIA, Oil, and Media Consent

[02:09–11:20]

Main Discussion Points

• Claims of CIA Mercenaries in Venezuela: Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro claims US/CIA mercenaries tried a false flag attack to trigger a regime change.
• Mainstream Media Support: US media, especially “60 Minutes,” is seen as echoing official narratives and manufacturing consent for US action.
• Oil at the Heart of US Motives: The US isn’t interested due to narco trafficking, but Venezuela’s immense oil reserves and the threat of Chinese (25% stake in Guyana offshore oil) and Russian influence.

John Kiriakou's Perspective (Ex-CIA Whistleblower)

• Pattern of US Interference: “It's like people got caught. What are you going to do? ...The Trump administration, the Biden administration, and the first Trump administration before that have used mercenaries repeatedly in Venezuela.” [04:18]
• Geopolitical Chess: “This regime change operation is not even really about Nicolas Maduro... It’s really about trying to keep the Chinese out of Central and South America and the Caribbean.” [04:59]
• Fumbling by US Planners: Attempts at coups in Venezuela have lacked preparation, failing to seize broadcast centers, the palace, or the power grid. “16 bozos who used to be, you know, in Marines or Delta Force or whatever and are working for Erik Prince now, they're not going to effect your coup...” [06:33]
• Open Covert Action: Trump’s public disclosure of CIA regime change authorization was “unprecedented since the CIA was created.” [09:00]

Notable Quotes

• Clayton Morris: “Let’s stop lying to people... we want to control Venezuela, let’s stop lying to people.” [06:10]
• John Kiriakou: “We trick ourselves into thinking that we are liberators who will be welcomed as heroes, and instead we're greeted as invaders and occupiers.” [07:47]

2. US-Israel Dynamics and the Ceasefire Question

[11:20–20:53]

Main Discussion Points

• Netanyahu’s Power Play: Discussion around Netanyahu’s statements that Israel isn’t controlled by the US, and vice versa.
• “Ceasefire Games”: Israel is accused of routinely violating ceasefires soon after they're agreed upon.
• US Political Posturing: MAGA-aligned Republicans are portrayed as rebranding to “America First,” attempting to distance themselves rhetorically from unwavering pro-Israel stances, potentially for electoral reasons.

John Kiriakou’s Commentary

• “It's an Israeli policy, frankly, to negotiate ceasefires and then immediately violate them.” [12:35]
• The personal relationship between Trump and Netanyahu is framed as manipulative, with Trump only recently realizing how he’s being used as political cover.
• Call for politicians to prioritize US interests: “...sometimes America’s best interests are not the same as Israel’s best interests. They're just not the same.” [17:36]

3. Charlie Kirk Assassination – Holes in the Prosecution

[22:19–35:44]

Main Discussion Points

• Opaque Court Procedures: Cameras are being banned from the Tyler Robinson trial, with delays and a new judge only recently appointed—raising concerns about transparency.
• Irregular Gag Orders: An exceptionally broad gag order affecting thousands, including future legal counsel and witnesses, is seen as suppressing independent scrutiny.
• Suspicious Behavior: The behavior of key figures (e.g., Michael McCoy, Charlie Kirk’s chief of staff, calmly walking away after the shooting) does not align with claimed narratives, raising further doubts.
• Video Suppression Allegations: Eyewitness Ryan Simmons discusses the FBI urging him to delete footage (“they had said...it’s best that you erase the video from your phone because it’s just going to give you PTSD” [36:05]). Others reported missing footage from their own devices after attending the incident.

Memorable Moment

• Natali Morris: “How do people lose their First Amendment rights just because they witnessed a crime? That’s highly irregular.” [27:21]

4. FBI Pipe Bomber Investigation – With Steve Baker

[43:18–54:10]

Main Discussion Points

• Withholding of Evidence: FBI refuses to release full, unedited DNC security footage, raising suspicions over manipulation (frame reduction) to sabotage “gait recognition” technology.
• Bomb Discovery Timeline: Numerous official sweeps (including Secret Service bomb-dogs, human patrols) failed to find the bomb, suggesting possible tampering or an inside job.
• Lack of Phone Tracking: Suspect’s movements remain untraceable, unusually so given widespread successful tracking in other Jan. 6 cases.
• Training Exercise Theory: Rumors swirl that officials might reframe the incident as a botched training exercise; yet this explanation is seen as highly suspect.

Notable Quotes

• Steve Baker: “We know that this was the one person using a cell phone that night that we've not been able to track... If this person is from the intelligence community... that device could be a burner phone...” [51:04]
• “It's absolutely impossible for those two counter surveillance officers to have the ability to go directly to the exact bush...without foreknowledge.” [54:24]
• Clayton Morris: “It's amazing that we can swoop in and within 33 hours we've got a lone gunman in Charlie Kirk's assassination... but here, suddenly we still can't [solve the pipe bombing].” [54:24]

5. COVID Vaccine, Cancer Headlines, and Pharma Spin – With Dr. Pierre Kory

[55:13–77:14]

Main Discussion Points

• Dubious "Breakthrough" Stories: The Washington Post and Nature claim COVID vaccines improved survival for cancer patients, but Dr. Kory slams the “retrospective observational study” for its weak methodology and premature conclusions.
• Weaponizing Weak Science: The study is non-randomized, limited to healthier immunotherapy patients, and doesn’t include standard chemotherapy patients—essentially self-selecting a group likely to do better anyway.
• Broader Trend of Narrative Control: Top journals (Nature, JAMA) are called out for publishing studies designed (via method or omission) to produce pro-pharma results—e.g., only counting live births in a pregnancy safety study to falsely show no fetal harm.
• Suppression of Alternatives: Vitamin D’s benefits are systematically downplayed through similar research manipulation. “You have any claim around it as being controversial because all of the data conflicts... it gets neutered.” [72:50]
• Calls for Skepticism and Health Autonomy: The show encourages listeners to recognize regulatory and media spin: “They do want us sick. ...If you had everybody with a healthy and robust vitamin D level, the amounts of illness and hospitalization would plummet.” [75:11]

Quotes

• Dr. Pierre Kory: “They’re sending messages that are timed around political endpoints. And it’s not subtle to me. ...You gotta try to find something positive to say about these vaccines, even on the weakest data. And they have absolutely no hesitation in doing that.” [62:07]
• “There’s a flip side to that. I also know what doesn’t show up in those journals. All these compelling studies showing the harms... never gets published in a high impact journal.” [70:05]

Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• “We trick ourselves into thinking that we are liberators who will be welcomed as heroes, and instead we're greeted as invaders and occupiers.”
  — John Kiriakou [07:47]

• “How do people lose their First Amendment rights just because they witnessed a crime? That’s highly irregular.”
  — Natali Morris [27:21]

• “It's absolutely impossible for those two counter surveillance officers to have the ability to go directly to the exact bush...without foreknowledge.”
  — Steve Baker [54:24]

• “They do want us sick. ...If you had everybody with a healthy and robust vitamin D level, the amounts of illness and hospitalization would plummet.”
  — Dr. Pierre Kory [75:11]

Summary Table of Important Segments

| Timestamp | Segment/Guest | Key Topics | |-------------------|----------------------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:09–11:20 | John Kiriakou (CIA Coup) | Regime change, oil, US/China rivalry, US media complicity | | 11:20–20:53 | Israel/US Relations | Ceasefire violations, MAGA’s “America First” rebranding | | 22:19–35:44 | Charlie Kirk Murder | Gag orders, witness behavior, suppression of evidence | | 43:18–54:10 | Steve Baker (Pipe Bomber) | FBI cover-up, evidence concealment, surveillance technology | | 55:13–77:14 | Dr. Pierre Kory (COVID) | Vaccine/cancer headlines, pharma journal bias, vitamin D suppression |

Tone & Closing

Throughout, Clayton and Natali Morris maintain a fiery, unapologetically skeptical tone—confrontational about media spin and unapologetically anti-war and anti-corporate. They urge listeners not to place party loyalty above the facts, focusing on factual accuracy, deep analysis, and a commitment to open discourse no matter whose narrative it challenges.

For Further Listening

• Interviews with whistleblowers and independent journalists like John Kiriakou and Steve Baker provide unique insight into the mechanics and mindset of US covert operations and official obfuscation.
• In-depth critique of pharmaceutical industry influence on medical journals with Dr. Pierre Kory, illustrating the real-world effects of controlled narratives.

This summary is intended to provide a detailed guide for listeners seeking the facts beyond the headlines and corporate media filters, reflecting the passionate investigative spirit of Redacted News.