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"No Deal!" Iran rejects Trump's Peace Plan, Strait of Hormuz FULLY Closed + HantaVirus Updates
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What are they trying to hide from you as it relates to the Iran war and the opening of the Strait of Hormuz? Because to hear about from President Trump and the Trump administration, Project Freedom, we're taking a pause right now in order to protect the, I guess, sensibilities of the Iranians and Iranians saying, no, sorry, the strait is not opening and we reject your peace plan wholeheartedly. It's a farce. So what is actually happening? We're gonna dive deeply into this today. The markets are roiling as a result of it. They were skyrocketing on the news that, yeah, look, we're, we're close to thing being done and then boom, once Iran responds and says, sorry, we reject this categorically, then the markets go crazy once again. So we'll dive into that today.
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Yeah, we're also Professor Robert Pape is gonna be joining us here as well as this seems to be spiraling out of control. You know, he's written of course about these, you know, the escalation trap. How much further along this escalation ladder are we now? So we're gonna speak with him about that and also intelligence problems inside the White House. Why are members of the Trump intelligence team leaking information to in order to go around the Israeli control of the Trump administration's intelligence apparatus. We're going to dive deeply into that story today.
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All right, so everyone in the chat room, ready to go. Thank you guys for subscribing and being a part of our community here. We really appreciate it. Well, a short time ago, Iran said no deal. Sorry, President Trump, your terms are total garbage and frankly don't make any sense. Iran publicly rejected the latest US Peace deal. They will not open the Strait of Hormuz, calling the US Plan completely unrealistic. Completely unrealistic. But if you listen to like Fox News and the US President and you listen to the US Media, it seems like we were pretty close to a deal here. The markets responded. Everything was exploding as a result of it. Wait a minute, was that all a lie? Was that an exaggeration? Project Freedom has now been shelved. According to the President, Trump was forced to stop that after Saudi Arabia reportedly refused to allow the US Military to use its airspace, its air base, a key air base in the region. So there's no way for President Trump to essentially implement Project Freedom. So game over. Where are we on this escalation ladder right now? Are things getting better or worse? Professor Robert Pape is the director of the Chicago Project on Security and Threats at the University of Chicago and the author of Escalation Trap on Substack. And he's absolutely been nailing it week in and week out with his assessments and predictions on this. And it's based on data. Professor Pape joins us once again. Great to see you. Welcome back to the show.
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C
Thank you for having me back. And I wish I could say next time you Bring me back, I'll have something wrong. So making me feel that great, this is a tragic situation.
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It really is. So what is your assessment of this latest back and forth? The Iranians saying, sorry, this is completely unrealistic. The President of the United States saying we're calling off Project Freedom in order for the Iranians to save face? I mean, that's literally what, what they're basically saying. Where are we on this escalation ladder right now?
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Where we are is we are stuck in the trap. And where we are with the negotiations is what I've been warning about now for days on substack, on X and so forth. The fundamental set of issues has not really changed. That is, since almost 70 days now, when the bombs first fell, our military has been tactically terrific. I Talked for the U.S. air Force. I'm not surprised. We would be tactically terrific. And the fact is, what you're seeing is whether it's bombs against leadership targets, the bombs are hitting targets, killing leaders. Whether it's the naval blockade, whether it's the air campaign, the military at a tactical level is doing every single thing that we would want. This is not a case of bad execution of tactics. This is a case of horrible strategy. This is a case where we are going down a road, where that tactical success is not leading to any strategic result that matters. Now, just to pick one example. Yes, we sunk Iran's Navy, remember, a month ago, we were bragging about how much that was going to matter. And now notice it doesn't matter at all. And the reason it doesn't matter at all is because Iran, Iran's growing power, is built on two factors. One is geography, and the other is really cheap technology called drones and mines. You put those two factors together and you have Iran emerging as the fourth center of world power, because those two factors are more than sufficient to tighten the grip of Hormuz. And now what you're seeing is it's more than sufficient for Iran's power to grow, even during the naval blockade. So what happened with Operation Freedom wasn't just that this failed and it got canceled right away. It's that when Iran struck target near the UAE's key pipeline, they had a pipeline that was bypassing Hormuz with nearly 2 million barrels of oil a day that was actually getting out. Once Iran did that, that sent a clear message to everybody in the Gulf that Iran has more than enough technology and geographic power in order to hurt them even more than they've been hurted. They've been hurt already. So this is why, you see, the Gulf states themselves say, we're not playing. We're not getting involved with this, because all it's doing is hurting them. It's not protecting their security. Another way to put it is we are losing more power day by day, including this week. And that is really just such a tragic situation. But it's not changing because President Trump is. He doesn't have that military option to just reach to. That's going to break the back of Iran and suddenly we're going to get this lap of good benefits and it's all going to have been worthwhile. I'm really sorry to say this trajectory can go on four months. And I know nobody wants to hear that, but sometimes you just got to hear the bad news, which is this is going to. This is unfortunately going to go on for. For months. You might see not just $5 gas, $6 gas. Here in Chicago, we're already at 520, where I fill up. I'm expecting this to hit $6 by the end of May.
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Jeez.
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You know, some military experts have said that they expect the war, the actual combat portion to heat back up, which would only make this worse because the United States doesn't have an easy win from so far away. We mentioned earlier that Saudi Arabia now is saying no landing on our airspace. That was a key ally that we have alienated. So I would like to ask you about what would happen if there is a renewal of hot battle. And I just wanna push you a tiny bit because the tactically terrific part, you know, obviously not the school of girls. Can we just pull that out?
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Yeah. Oh, no, I'm sorry. I should have, definitely. And in fact, that's gonna come back to haunt us with. Oh, my goodness, no. I'm pre. Thank you very much for giving me that chance to qualify. What I meant, I just.
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I think that as Americans, we should not. Forget it. It shouldn't be. I don't mean when we're doing the
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best we can, we're making mistakes. And those mistakes are bad, are to kill Americans down the road. So this isn't just an oops here. This is. That will be haunting us, as there are, I hope not. But future attacks against Americans. So let me say two things about the point about stepping up. Why is it that we would step up? There is an assumption, and this is one of the big things. When I teach for the US Air Force, when I teach at the University of Chicago, and this is an assumption by smart people. This is not a dumb person's Assumption. This is an assumption by generals. This is not an assumption just by civilians, which is punishment. If we're not a nice guy and we put our morals aside, once we hurt the enemy enough, we kill enough civilians, we make them unemployed. What we're going to do is they will bring them to their knees here. And that is what you are seeing with the blockade. The idea is we're going to crush their economy and that's going to bring them to their knees. Or now, if we go after the electric power, that's going to hurt them more quickly, cause the punishment to happen more rapidly. And here's the bottom line, which is hard in just a short period of time to get across to your audience. But punishment almost never works. And it can be extreme. In World War II, during. I'll just pick. The most damaging punishment campaign with conventional weapons that ever happened was when the United States turned loose our B29s on Japanese cities before we dropped the atomic bombs. Starting in March 1945 until the end of July, we picked out 58 cities in Japan and we bombed them one after one after one and we killed 700,000 Japanese civilians. This did not budge Japan one inch. And there's many cases of this. And so the problem here is this basic assumption that people think, and it's a basic assumption I know because I've been teaching smart people for 30 years, they need to see the evidence up close and personal. That's what's in my books, that's what's in the lectures I give to the military. That's what I'm showing them. I'm taking them through this in detail. And quite honestly, they change their mind once they see enough cases. They realize, oh, it's not just about we're not nice. It really does stiffen the back of the enemy because what it does is it makes them want to fight back and kill us even more. And that's why that's not going to work. Now, why do we go to that? We go to that because people like President Trump, he's a real estate guy, he has no real experience in military history. He's never really sat down and had even a 20 minute version of how punishment has really failed in history to do this. And so this is, we are run by civilians, we have civilian control. We'd never want to give that up. But this is, this is how you end up going down these roads here. And unfortunately, if we do launch that bombing campaign, what you can expect is the lashing back here. They're going to come at us eye for an eye or maybe two eyes for an eye. And they're going to hit the Gulf infrastructure really hard. And that may play out over weeks. And when that happens, then we're not talking about $6 gas anymore in Chicago. We're going to be talking about eight or nine dollars gas. This is really going to have that big of a consequence because when you have the infrastructure of anything damaged, it's like in your house you can have a little tiny leak roof. But have you ever had the water running in your basement where there's holes in your basement? And now you're talking not about a $3,000 leak roof repair, you're talking about a 30, 40, $50,000 basement repair. That's the difference here. When we start taking down the infrastructure in of the oil and the gas and the fertilizer, not just simply threatening ships. And that's where we're headed.
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A couple of news items that have just kind of moved over the past few minutes, Professor Pape. One, I want to get your take on this. A new a drone attack and there's been reports of an explosions on Kashim island on the Iranian side. Iranian state media reporting explosions said they were caused by air defenses, intercepting several drone attacks. So where is that coming from? The United States, Israel? And then we also just got word from senior Iranian officials just a short time ago, even before we came on the air, that says they're not going to consider ending this war under two conditions. First, all compensation for all damages. And the second, the United States must withdraw from the Gulf. So to your point, we're sort of trapped.
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I was just on Times of London Radio a few hours ago saying you were going to start to see the Iranians will likely pull out. They want the withdrawal of all forces here, which I haven't heard much about. So I'm sorry to say that it's not just the generalities. It's even the details are actually fully, well, not fully, but quite predictable. This in this situation. Now, what would that drone attack be? Of course, you just laid out the possibilities. But we do need to recall that we've been talking for a long time about seizing certain islands, either Kaj or right near Hormuz. That island is one of the ones right near Hormuz. We have all the forces there, those 10,000 Marines, the Special Forces, they are there. They're on a hair trigger. And President Trump has been warning here in his post now for actually several days that he's going to move right away. So I can't say for sure this is the beginning of an actual effort to take one of those islands. But I would hardly be surprised that that would be where this White House would go. And it is the escalation trap. It's what Iran has just done is humiliated yet again. President Trump, who's been bending over backwards begging for any deal whatsoever, and they're not giving them. What you just showed is they're not even giving a hint of a fig leaf here because what they want to do is they want to wreck his presidency. The goal here is, I believe, by Iran becoming more and more revealed by their behavior. They don't want to talk to us face to face because that would give us too much prestige. They're in the driver's seat at every step, and the only way you're going to knock them off the driver's seat is with force. But even then, I'm telling you, that's probably not going to work. But that doesn't mean we're not going to try it. And we're trying it for the reasons I just said, unfortunately. We're, you know, and I hate to be so blunt, because I, I'm, I'm not trying to be political here, but I mean, the bottom line is I teach people coming in all the time who are real estate agents and they're, they're, you know, pilots and so forth, and they think right away, coming in, and these are folks with 120, 140 IQs. These are not D. And they think right away that, oh, the only thing holding us back, say, from winning in Vietnam is we didn't hit them hard enough. If we had just killed more than 900,000, you know, Ratchet it up, we would have. And once they see the real data and I take them through it, they, not all of them, but most of them really come out much more sober and realize, oh, this is just not going to work.
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Professor Robert Pape got to follow his incredible work on his substack. He has been absolutely, I mean, follow him on X, but read his great substack because he's been nailing it left and right. Correct, correct, correct, correct. Like you said, hope you'll come back when you're wrong. And yeah, please.
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Yeah, I'm there. I'm there.
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Maybe, maybe the professors, maybe the professor's predictions are causing it. Maybe it's causing it.
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Maybe he should just predict the other way. Yeah, and it'll happen. Exactly.
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I've tried recall, I don't know if you recall, but early in the war I was trying to give all these off ramps to President Trump here. So. So it's now being lost of is because we've moved past that. But believe me, one of the reasons I've been on news, I've been on Newsmax almost, not every day, but my goodness gracious, how much more can I go on? I'm trying to talk directly here to all sides, really, but I've tried to give a lot of you say, predictions or advice that was there. Had, had. We just decided after the first few days. So President Trump said this was only going to be on February 28th in the opening, when he's asked. A couple days. We've only got a couple days. I've got all these off ramps. I was trying to give him those ideas. Take the offer up, then go now.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And it didn't happen. And when you're controlled by the Israeli intelligence operation, it's not going to happen. Professor Pape, great to see you. Thank you.
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We can actually tell if it's his predictions or not. So you're like Schrodinger's cat. We have to put you in a box.
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Well, yeah. I'm sorry to say what's happening here is that it's not the paid predictions that are driving it. It's the real of the limits of punishment and the fact that when a state has great power, as Iran does now, the idea, they're just going to give it up because President Trump's going to bamboozle them with some charisma or some tweet or so forth. This is not. This is great power politics of the first order. And when President Trump gets to, if he even goes to meet with President Xi, you know, he always said in the campaign that he could stand up to President Xi. Well, he's about to find out what that looks like because she has got now a lot of cards here to play with, and we're the ones who are coming on bended knee, and this is just not a good situation here. I'm, I'm not sure President Trump should even go. I mean, it's, you know, it's just really, it's hard to believe this is going to work out in a positive way. You never say never. I understand he's gotten reelected and a miracle. I really, I've been to his rallies. I really understand so much about how, you know, this has been a miracle here. But the bottom line is that this isn't just getting reelected here in a democracy, we're up against great power politics. And what you're seeing is Iran has got us and they're not going to let that grip up because they're suddenly bored or they don't like their power. And look at them. They got Kuwait now saying, oh, my God, we can't get. Iran's looking at that. And they're saying, you know, this is manna from heaven for them because they want to get American forces out. Well, we got a base in Kuwait now. You see, this is the leverage that Iran is using.
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Yes. Well, thank you again for that. It's always a pleasure to read your work and to have you explain it to us in person. Please come back.
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Okay, thank you very much.
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All right. Coming up, we're gonna talk about intelligence failures inside of the Trump administration, why this continues to be such a fallout. And like Professor Pape just said, it feels very much like we're playing a child's game, you know, in an adult world right now. You can't just win this with media savvy.
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Well, we'll explain in why these intelligence, this intelligence coup is unfolding right now inside the administration. And when you have members of the Trump administration who are patriotic Americans who are now trying to get information out to all of us about what's actually happening in Iran, the lies that of course are being told by the Israeli intelligence service to the United States. And President Trump is going along with all of this. We're gonna talk about that when we come back from this quick break.
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All right, how are we looking in the chat room today?
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How are we looking.
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Yeah, let us know here. And get in your super chats now. Any super chats you have on the show today. Thank you so much for joining us. Trump's strategy is not telling you his strategy.
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Humongous shift that gives him the benefit of the doubt of having a strategy which we're just not sure is true.
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So Trump can be drawn into everything, just like Fauci and Covid.
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What does that mean?
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Like Fauci, Covid, that he can, like.
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Oh, that operation was. He was drawn into that. Yeah, good point. Yes, he was. Yeah, indeed.
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All right, well. And okay, we all looking good guys on the team here. Everything lining up good? Yeah.
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Philip, I want to ask you a question.
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Yeah, I mean, we're. We're waiting for the. Waiting for the next guest.
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Should be here shortly.
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Okay. Oh, just wanted to make sure that maybe.
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Do we have any super chats in at this moment?
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Not yet.
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We don't have any super chats.
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If you have anything to say to us while we're waiting for our guests, you can super chat it or just say it right there. Fauci Crouchy, thank you for that.
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Two minutes. Okay. All right, well, let's just dive into it and get to it here, so. So we don't waste any time. Well, the American people were told that reports of Major. Sorry, let me do this again. What's going on here? You okay? Well,
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take a break, guys. Smoke them if you got them.
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Okay. All right, well, Americans better buckle up for some hard truths. We can exclusively here on redacted that something very big is happening inside of President Trump's intelligence operation. And if you care about the national security of the United States, then this should alarm you. Sources are telling redacted that there are American intelligence professionals inside this administration who are furious. They believe the American people are being lied to about what's really happening in the war with Iran. They believe the official story coming out of the White House does not match the actual intelligence at all. And they believe Trump's Iran policy has been hijacked not by America first national security officials, not by sober military planners, not even by the CIA or the dia, but by the Israeli government and its intelligence apparatus. In other words, Trump's intelligence operation is truly being run out of Tel Aviv. And now those US Officials are leaking information to the media, including the Washington Post, in order to get these stories out about what's really happening in Iran. I'm going to show you examples of that here in a minute. But first, we've all been spoon fed lies about this war. Mainstream media is feeding you fake stories about what's really happening in Iran, what's happening in the Gulf states. Like this laughable gem over the last 24 hours from Jesse Waters Watch.
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President says based on the request of Pakistan and other countries, we have mutually agreed that while the blockade will remain in full force and effect, Project Freedom will be paused for a short period of time to see whether or not the agreement can be finalized and signed. We suspect the President is letting the Iranians save face. The enemy just yesterday said they controlled the strait. That was obviously a lie. And watching the Americans escort ship after ship out of the Gulf and them not being able to do anything about that was going to be humiliating. Not only were they going to lose whatever military prestige they had left in the region, their negotiators weren't going to be able to fight for their position after they lost their last bargaining chip. The commander in chief must believe that the Iranians are serious about surrendering if he's going to pause Project Freedom for the sake of a deal. Because you could also continue Project Freedom during the negotiations.
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You know, you do want to get
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these foreign ships moving. The President must know what he's doing. And we're about to find out how insane in the brain the regime really is.
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I wonder what it feels like to have your head that far up your ass.
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I mean, and up the. Up the ass of the President and regurgitating Marco Rubio talking points. Okay, so, right, Jesse, Right. So Trump is losing on purpose because he wants the enemy to feel good about itself.
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That's so nice.
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That's why Project Freedom has been put on hold. The Zionists pumping these lies out to the American people think that you are stupid. The truth cannot be revealed by the Israeli run White House. Trump watches Fox News nonstop, so the information loop is happening in real time. One of his favored cabinet folks begs to go on Fox News, does an interview, pushes propaganda fed to them by the Israeli intelligence. Trump watches it then on Fox News and the circle repeats itself. Megyn Kelly recently summed it up, summed up this loop perfectly. Watch.
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I've spoken to many people at Fox
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who've told me that administration figures will
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come to them saying, please put me on because I have something the President has to hear.
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And also if their fortunes are dwindling,
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they want a hit like on Fox and Friends, for example, because they want to show I'm on tv, see, I'm relevant. I'm making your points.
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They know the shows he watches and
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they try very hard to get on them. But look, we know that the case was made because we know that Tucker Carlson got in front of him three times in the month leading up to this war. And, you know, just, he wasn't persuaded. So there, but there were just so many other voices. It was nine to one, you know, that he was listening to, pushing him into it. Not to take agency away from the president at all. But I do think, I think a full assessment. We know Trump made the call.
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That's not a mystery.
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But who pushed him into it, who made these representations also matters.
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So this is what we're watching unfold in real time. Now. You have brave patriots inside Trump's intelligence team at ODNI revealing the truth. And the leaks are starting to tell a very different story from the one that the Trump administration has been selling to the American people. For weeks. President Trump and his team have told us that Iran is being crushed, that Iran's missile program has been obliterated or decimated, to use their words. Jesse Waters and his types have been telling you that the U.S. blockade of the Straight of Hormuz is, is breaking Tehran economically, that the US Military assets in the region are secure, nothing to see here, and that it's all gone, going according to plan. But now look at what leaks are coming out this morning. The Washington Post is now reporting that a confidential CIA assessment delivered to the administration policymaker says IR can survive Trump's naval blockade of the Strait of Hormuz for at least three to four months before facing more severe economic hardship. That directly undercuts what the White House narrative is, that Iran is on the verge of collapse or that they've already collapsed. So the Israeli intelligence team running the White House messaging is lying to you and they're lying to President Trump, selling him falsehoods about Iran's ability to control the Strait of Hormuz. Here's the Daily Mail. Another leak from the Patriots. And Trump's ODNI reports that despite what you've been hearing, Iran still retains 75% of its mobile launchers, 70% of its pre war missile stockpiles, not 18% as they're telling us. And they're not mostly decimated, 70%. And according to these folks inside Trump's intel team, they've even reopened much of the underground tunnels and missile production. So we have to ask ourselves, why is that information only reaching the American people through leaks? Why are we learning from anonymous intelligence officials that Iran's underground storage facilities have largely been recovered or even reopened? Why are we learning that Iran has repaired some damaged missiles, even assembled new ones. They've been producing missiles during this time period. I thought they were decimated. This is the intelligence problem Trump has on his hands right now. And since Trump only watches Fox News and gets his information from Israeli intelligence, how is he being informed? So Tulsi Gabbard is supposed to be there every morning providing the intel assessment, right? Is that still happening? Has she been pushed out? Is he seeing this truthful info or is it being kept from him? I know Meghan Kelly's giving him, you know, credit saying he has agency here, but does he? Either he's not being told the truth or he knows the truth and is allowing the public narrative to continue anyway to save face. But it gets worse because the Washington Post this week, also thanks to these leakers inside odni, published satellite imagery analysis showing that Iranian strikes damaged or destroyed at least 228 structures, pieces of military equipment at US military sites across the Middle East. That includes barracks, hangars, full fuel depots, aircraft, radar, communication systems, air defense equipment. We talked to Colonel McGregor yesterday. He says uninhabitable, most of these places, probably never to be used again. Now, the Post says that level of destruction is far larger than what the US Government has publicly acknowledged. Think about that. The American people were told the reports of major US losses were fake. News exaggerations, propaganda. Same kind of propaganda that Israel sells to its own people. The Iron Dome stopped all the missiles. No, it didn't. The satellite imagery shows that U.S. facilities were hit and destroyed. It shows that Iran's targeting was more precise than officials wanted to admit. It also shows that American bases across the region may be far more vulnerable than the Pentagon has been willing to say out loud. And this is exactly why intelligence sources appear to be going outside normal channels right now, trying to leak their this info to the American people. Because sources are telling redacted that they believe the war is being run through a foreign intelligence apparatus. And this brings us to Joe Kent. Kent was the head of the National Counterterrorism Center. He was close to Tulsi Gabbard. He was a Trump supporter. He was not some left wing resistance nut job. And he resigned over the Iran war. In his resignation letter, Kent said he could not support the war. He said Iran posed no imminent threat to the US and that was the assessment of the intelligence agencies. And he said the US Went to war because of pressure from Israel and its powerful American lobby. So the Washington Post reported that Kent accused high ranking officials and influential media figures of pushing misinformation about a swift path to victory. It was going to be four days in order to sell the American people on this war. It didn't work. The American people hate this war. So I don't know what, what selling they were really doing anyway. And then Kent went even further. In an interview with Tucker Carlson, Ken said that senior officials who had doubts about the strikes were not allowed to share those concerns with President Trump. He said that Israeli officials were providing information that U.S. officials could not confirm through intelligence channels. That's shocking. Meaning our own CIA didn't trust what the Israelis were selling. And notice something else here. Where the hell is Tulsi Gabbard? Tulsi Gabbard is the Director of National Intelligence. She's supposed to be the person overseeing the intelligence community advising the president on national security. But since this war began, you don't see her doing Fox News hits. She's not popping up on Fox News so that she can sell anything to the president, not being even allowed to do those hits. And that tells you something. And here's something else. The John Brennan investigation. We were told for months that accountability was coming, an indictment was coming. We were told the former CIA director was under serious scrutiny, whether he lied to Congress. And then also, I mean, criminal, really demonic stuff that they were apparently uncovering. And then suddenly, the lead prosecutor was no longer on the case, subpoenas withdrawn, replaced with, like, voluntary interview requests. CBS News Barry Weiss's CBS News reported the lead prosecutor overseeing a criminal investigation was no longer assigned to the case. Done. Gone. So John Brennan now is a cushy consulting gig. Pierce as a contributor on msnbc. So all good, nothing to see here. And former UN Weapons inspector Scott Ritter saying the quiet part out loud in a recent interview with Glenn Deason. He said that US Policy towards Iran is not being written by the CIA, not by the dia, but by the policy circles aligned with Israel. So former UN Weapons inspector Scott Ritter joins us now to dissect all of this. Scott, great to see you. Welcome back to the show.
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Thanks for having me.
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So when you hear these leaks coming out of the Washington Post and other media right now from sources at ODNI and others trying to get this information out to the American people, what does that tell you about the people that are surrounding Trump right now who are providing him with intelligence assessments of the Iran war?
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Well, you know, Washington, D.C. has always leaked. I had my first experience of that was in the late 1980s with the intermediate Nuclear Forces Treaty. And we saw there were elements inside the United States Congress who had allies in the US Intelligence community who didn't want this treaty to work. And so they would leak misleading intelligence to, you know, the Washington Times, that would publish it on the front page and suddenly became a talking point. So we've seen leaks used for a number of reasons. Just because something's leake doesn't mean it's right. It means that there are interested parties within the United States government who take umbrage at the official line. So this isn't new, the leaking. Washington D.C. has been leaking like a sea forever. But what it tells us about the Trump administration is that there is pushback from within the system to the narrative that's being promulgated by the White House and the people surrounding them. Then what makes this interesting is that the facts tend to align with the leakers, not the policymakers. Sometimes it's the opposite case, as was with the INF treaty, where the leaked information was factually incorrect. They leaked it not to tell the truth, but to create perceptions, because perceptions create their own realities. Here we have the White House in the business of manufacturing perceptions and the reality is being suppressed. And we have have people seeking to release fact based evidence that contradicts the narrative. I'd always like to believe that our policy aligns with truth. And what we see here is that it doesn't. We have a White House that's been lying to the American people, a White House that's been lying to itself. I mean, just listen to what Megyn Kelly said. I mean, I know you did because you spoke about it, but just for a second, understand the dysfunction. You're somebody who was brought into your position to advise the President. You were picked for that purpose. But because this President operates in such a tight circle of sycophants who exist only to appease his narcissism, you can't get access to the person you're supposed to advise. So you have to go to a non government governmental entity, you know, a mainstream media outlet, Fox News, in order to send a message. I mean, this is dysfunction at its worth. This is dangerous dysfunction. This is the kind of stuff that should prompt immediate congressional investigations, but instead, and it also should prompt the outrage of the American people. We went to war. And I know the President is playing stupid, stupid, you know, games. It was a skirmish. It was. No, this was a war. This is one of the, the most serious strategic air campaigns launched since Operation Desert Storm. This is a big deal. Tens of billions of dollars of American taxpayer money was expended, perhaps over $100 billion of damage has been done to American assets in the region. And, you know, this president treats it as if it's some sort of parlor game. This is insanity personified.
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When you hear the assessments from these leakers inside the administration who are trying to get this information out about, like, the military, the US Military base is destroyed, Iran's ability to withstand months of Hormuz closure pressure, their stockpiles of missiles, et cetera. Do those leaks sound accurate to you based on your assessments?
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Well, first of all, I'm always a little bit reticent to talk about battle damage assessment because I'm an American. And although I'm not in favor of this war, the last thing I want to do is give somebody who's firing missiles at American service members an indication of how successful those strikes are. So I'm always a little hesitant to talk about battle damage assessment, but I'll take the Washington Post at its word. I will also say this about the, the assessments coming out from the US Intelligence community about surviving percentages of missiles, et cetera. I think that these are inaccurate numbers. I think that they underplay actually the survival rate of the Iranian missiles because they're derived from reporting that includes battle damage assessments from the people launching the strikes. The president just straight up lying. So when he says 18, just a manufacturing number, we know that. But the US intelligence community always, you know, leans towards what the, the operators say. And I just go back, I can speak on personal experience here. During the Gulf War, if we say we destroyed, you know, if there's 70% left, there's 90% left. If, you know, it's. That's the case because we, we clearly don't know what the Iranians are capable of. We don't know what they've done. The same thing with the estimates, about three to four months worth of sustainability. On the energy side, I'd say that's probably three to four years. Because we don't know the truth about Iran's economy. This is conventional analysis done without any incorporation of, you know, the extensive gray markets that exist, the black markets. I wonder if they calculated accurately how much oil is consumed domestically by the Iranians that doesn't need to go into storage or what's going on with the amount of oil that's being shipped across the Pakistani border by trucks. Now, from all accounts, it is literally, you know, the entire border has been turned into a massive highway. So I would say that the, the intelligence community doesn't have as clear picture about Iran, you know, as some people want to give them Credit for. I give them credit for, you know, putting out assessment that isn't spun politically. But I would say that the CIA doesn't have into the reality of Iran, both in terms of their military and their economy.
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So, Scott, I'll get your assessment then where you think things are heading. We've been hearing reports from, from Larry Johnson and others believe that a new round of military action is imminent, maybe within 48 hours against Iran. What are you hearing? What do you think?
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Well, I'm not as plugged in as Larry is, so I can't say I'm hearing anything. This is just purely assessment on my part. But it's an assessment based upon reality and therein lies the problem. I think we need to acknowledge up front that we're dealing with a president who is clinically insane. The man is suffering from narcissistic personality disorder of the most malignant nature. It makes him antisocial. If he lived in the state of New York, he could be involuntarily confined because he represents a danger to society. But he's the President of the United States with his finger on the nuclear trigger. And I'm being serious here. I'm not being facetious at all. This is a man who's social postings are clearly indicative of mental instability. And so that means we don't know what is going to happen. But what I can say is that the people surrounding the President know exactly what would happen if we resumed attacks against Iran. We can't beat the Iranians. We proved that with 39 days of incessant bombardment that accomplished literally nothing. And we now know that the Iranians retain capacity to strike back. The military knows that it can't accomplish any mission given to it to, you know, eradicate in short order Iran's ability to launch ballistic missiles. We had 39 days to do that. We didn't do that. The Iranians only got stronger. Now the Iranians are locked and loaded. We know that they accurately, they can accurately strike targets that they aim at. And the Iranians have made it clear that if there's renewed action against them that targets their energy infrastructure, that they will eradicate the energy infrastructure of the Gulf Arab states. That means that Kuwait will no longer produce energy, Qatar will no longer produce energy, Bahrain will no longer produce energy, and the United Arab no longer produce energy. And Saudi Arabia will no longer produce energy. That's it for the global economy. Game, set, match. Shut it down. It's all over. You know, Even though it's 22%, when you remove 22%. As precipitously as it's being removed right now, it will cause a collapse, a total collapse. Building structure that loses 22% of its, of its, you know, load bearing capability collapses. You can say, well, there's, you know, 78% remaining or 88%, no, it doesn't matter. When you remove that much this fast, without any shoring taking place, the global economy collapses. And this includes the American economy. And people, I believe, are telling the President that you will be committing political suicide, that there is no recovery from this. So I believe that what's going on is a lot of posturing right now, that this president is desperate for an off ramp. And the militant rhetoric that we're hearing is simply flexing of muscles that no longer exist. Now, I could be proven wrong. As I said, this man is clinically insane. And clearly the people surrounding him are sycophants whose job is to stroke his ego, not to tell him the truth. But I think this president is politically savvy enough and there's enough, you know, the narcissist wants his legacy to survive and he's watching his legacy go down in flames right now. And he recognizes that he needs to stop the damage and pray for some sort of policy based miracle this summer that can reverse the polling when it comes to, you know, the support for his policies, which is plummeting. So I personally believe that there isn't going to be a redemption of military action against Iran by the United States because to do so would be the kiss of death, death for this president.
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B
Interesting. We just saw attacks on Kashim island, some drone attacks that were intercepted by Iranian air defenses reporting just a few minutes ago, likely Israeli, I would imagine, to your point, which final question, Scott, then take that Kashm point. But also, is Trump's intelligence apparatus really just being run basically out of Tel Aviv right now?
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Yeah, you know, we've seen this in a lot of areas, especially in the Middle east, especially pertaining to Iran. You know, the CIA doesn't have a good track record. We know in the 1980s, Steve Richter, who ran the Near East Directorate, you know, through incompetence, sacrificed it. And you know, the totality of America's human intelligence network in Iran, we painstakingly have sought to rebuild it. We sacrificed it about six years ago when a Gmail based communications capability was compromised and again, everybody communicating got arrested and killed. And we attempted to reconstitute it again today. We don't have a human intelligence capability. We have totally farmed out human intelligence in Iran to Israel, which, you know, which means now that when, whenever somebody's putting together a, you know, an intelligence assessment, drive all sources, you know, you can sit there and say, I have a, I'm looking at this photograph. This is my assessment. You know, photographic intelligence gives you a snapshot. You can look at it over a sustained period of time and derive some sort of, of insight. But at the end of the day, if I'm sitting there telling you what I see based upon several snapshots in time, and somebody else says, yeah, but I got a human source close to so and so inside Iran. Everybody likes the human source. They like the sexiness. The same thing with signals intelligence. Unless you're monitoring a feed full time, you're only getting snippets of conversations. And so somebody who has the human intelligence can come in and say, I can bring additional context to that communication. The Israelis right now run the human intelligence out of Iran in the United States. States is held hostage to it. But even worse is that the US Intelligence community isn't given a chance to counter what the Israelis say. The President will meet in private with Prime Minister Netanyahu and the head of the Mossad, who will brief him independent of any US intelligence personnel present. And the President is won over by the strength of the personalities delivering fundamentally flawed arguments. So this is an absolute intelligence failure on the part of the United States. Again, something that normally would trigger congressional inquiry, but Congress is asleep at the wheel.
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B
Yeah, absolutely. Scott, great to see you. Thank you so much for your assessment on this. Really appreciate it.
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D
Thanks for having me.
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B
Appreciate it.
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Well, coming up, we're going to talk about Hantavirus. Do you need to panic yet? Is it time to get a mask yet? We're going to talk about whether or not we can trust these pods. Positive cases yet. We're going to talk to Dr. Pierre Corey about it. Also the social media arounding it is very strange and inconsistent. So a lot of weird stuff and
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predicted inside of the X Files.
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Indeed that happened.
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Literally mentioned the Hantavirus as a government PSYOP program. So unbelievable. We'll talk about that. But first, I don't know if you saw the price of silver. Holy smokes. Skyrocketing up 6% once again. Gold, silver, precious metal, metals. I mean it's the same old song and dance that we tell you about, but it is. When the US dollar is on facing collapse right now, $39 trillion in debt. Smart people are moving to make sure and protect their families with precious metals and tangible assets, real estate, gold, Silver, things like that. Things that I have been investing in for years to protect my family and my three little kids. So right now, I mean, you've seen the headlines. Major banks predict making gold could climb over $6,000 an ounce. Silver now skyrocketing today up again 6%. The news is finally catching up to what we've been talking about here on the show. But it matters who you know, but who you trust matters just as much as what you buy. And that's why we trust our friend friends over at Lear Capital. We've been buying our gold and silver for them for years. And we are close friends with their team. They have done a fantastic job. They're an American company. They'll ship gold coins right to your house. You can store them in your gun safe, silver coins, bars, all of it, right to your house so you can protect it under lock and key for yourself. Lear has thousands of satisfied customers over $3 billion in transactions off. They offer something truly unique. A 24 hour risk free purchase guarantee. So you don't pay unless you're completely, completely satisfied. And who does that today? Like you have an idea, you want to buy gold and then 24 hours later, like, yeah, I wanna just want to hold US Dollars. I like US Dollars. Well, you can call them and say, you know what, I changed my mind. They'll say, great, no problem, no problem at all. And for those interested in moving some of your retirement dollars into gold and silver, you can do that with Lear as well. That's what we've done. If you have an old IRA that's just sitting there, an old 401, you left a job and it's sitting there still in the stock market, you can actually convert that to a self directed account that you can control and you can start using those funds to invest in real estate, gold, silver, whatever you want. So I'm a big proponent of self directed IRAs and Lear can actually help you set it up. They'll do it for you on the phone, they'll walk you through the process and take care of it for you. That's how great they are. So if you're considering gold and silver, call the best in the business. Give them a 10 minute minutes, that's it, 10 minutes. No pressure. Free phone call to see if gold is right for you. Call them 1-800-613-3557 to get your free gold guide. You can download the free information as well or you can just go to the website, but I prefer a phone call. But learedacted.com is the website if you want to go there as well. But give them a call, 1-800-613-3557 and an American will answer the phone and talk to you. This won't be outsourced to some call center in India. Media 1-800-613-3557 well, the media is hysterical
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A
that people exposed to the hantavirus from a cruise ship have disembarked and are just roaming the earth freely now. Sent back to all four corners of the earth ready to infect you should you panic. Well, let's back up because the story goes that people have tested positive for the virus and they were sent off the ship. And now we're to going getting positive test cases from a flight attendant, someone in Korea, someone in this country, that country. But what do we actually know about hantavirus testing? Does it have the same reliability problems that the COVID 19 PCR tests have? We are told that the Andes hantavirus test has a very high mortality rate. But do we know that it's that strain? How do they test that? And is the mobility rate rate the same as people with comorbidities as it is for people without? Now, thankfully we've learned to ask these questions because of the COVID 19 pandemic. So we have a few other things to note. First off, hantavirus is not known to spread between humans. If it is doing that now, this could indicate that it's been manipulated. Also, hantavirus is an RNA virus which could be could mean that ivermectin is a possible therapeutic according to some doctors. We're gonna talk about that in a second. Will the government prevent us from knowing that like it did before about other viruses? Also incidentally, in 2024 Moderna announced here that they were working on a vaccine. And also eagle eyed observers have pointed out that the Pfizer COVID 19 vaccine had listed amongst its adverse events hantavirus. This, what you see here is a list of possible adverse events around the next one. Can we move that one? Yes. Here a list of possible adverse effects of the COVID 19 vaccine. You see this is dated 2021. It's not saying they observed it, it's saying they were looking for it. Okay, why would they be looking for hantavirus as a possible adverse event for the COVID 19 vaccine? Also, social media around this outbreak on the cruise ship is very strange. I linked you today to this video in the newsletter. If you haven't seen it, she's saying that the only people posting social Media content around this cruise outbreak are influencers or people who work for the cruise line. It's very strange and inconsistent. And two other oddities we should consider. First of all, this has gone viral in 2022. Someone posted that Covid would end in 2023 and that hantavirus would pop up in 2026. Is that a coincidence? We don't know. And also, as Clayton mentioned earlier, it was also mentioned in an episode of the X files in the 90s, discussed as a way to expand government control. Watch this short clip.
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D
Did you write, you know, my work?
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B
I was right about Dallas, wasn't it? Ouch.
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How are you right?
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D
Are you familiar with the antivirus agent Multer?
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Yeah. It was a deadly virus spread by field mice in the southwestern United States several years ago.
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According to the newspaper, FEMA was called
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out to manage an outbreak of the hantavirus. Are you familiar with what the Federal Emergency Management Agency's real power is? FEMA allows the White House to suspend constitutional government upon declaration of a national emergency. Think about that. What is an agency with such broad sweeping power doing managing a small viral outbreak in suburban Texas?
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A national emergency. Okay, well, Dr. Pierre Cory is the author of the War on Chlorine Dioxide, the Medicine that Could End Medicine. He was a critic of the government's handling of the COVID 19 pandemic, which was why he was one of the first. First people I asked to talk to. Dr. Corey, thank you for joining us today.
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Great to be back. Good to see you.
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All right. Good to see you. So let's just run down these questions systematically before we decide to panic, like the New York Post is telling us to. First of all, can we trust these positive cases? What do you know about hantavirus testing and specifically the strain testing?
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You know, it's hard because that's a pretty rare infection, especially in the United States most of the time. I mean, now we have pcr, which is ubiquitous, and you can use that. But it's typically, historically, like, even the cdc, they use antibodies. So you have to wait until they form antibodies to be. I think that's the much more, I would say, specific or accurate test. But pcr, really, you can only test after symptoms. So again, you know, we've gone through the testing with COVID you know, the sensitivities and specificities of pcr. Ultimately, any diagnosis, it really has to be in the proper clinical context. So you really need to have the syndrome which fits. Hantavirus, right? And hantavirus, the two things that make it relatively unique at Least early on it's a severe viral infection. Like, think of, like the worst flu you've had, but it's really known for severe myalgia, like really bad muscle aches. And so if muscle aches are severe and predominate, you gotta really put hantavirus much higher on your differential diagnosis. But it has to be within a clinical context, otherwise no test really matters. So if those patients are really sick, in terms of a classic syndrome of a hemorrhagic virus. Could be real. Could be real. I don't know enough about those cases. I just know that there were some deaths, which also suggests that because Honda viruses have like between 25 and 50% mortality rate. So if three people already dead on that cruise, I wonder how many people on the cruise are sick.
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Okay, so, you know, I see all the memes about ratatouille because you're supposed to really only get it from rodents. It is not commonly known to be transmissible between humans. What do you think of the idea that it could be transmitting to a flight attendant, possibly to someone who's been in, you know, exposed to someone on the cruise ship? That should not happen from what we currently know. Right?
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Yeah.
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I'm gonna have to give two answers to that. I'll give you the textbook answer, and then the new, this brave new world we're in, the textbook answer is that it's really poorly transmissible, human to human. In fact, there's really only one strain that you even concern yourself with, and unfortunately, that's the strain that was apparently on that ship. It's called the Andes virus. It's from South America, the American strains and European strains, really rare to have human to human transmission. The other aspect, though, even with the Andes virus, it's not considered a common transmission route. And really, in order to have it transmitted, you have to have really close contact, like almost like intimate, you know, respiratory secretions, kissing, you know, maybe like close physical caregiving. But it's not something you're going to walk in down the street and get from somebody. So I don't think we should go there. But, you know, in your intro, I listened to tell you, you know, there's, you know, when you, what you learn as a doctor is you learn to be expert at seeing patterns. And, you know, the patterns of anomalies make me uneasy here, like, particularly. And I don't know that you mentioned this, but, like, why would a pharmaceutical company come up with a vaccine for a virus that's not transmissible between humans? To use humans and they, you Know, I can't remember which company did that, but they did that in the last year or two. And that. That really kind of bothers me because there's only one rationale for developing a virus vaccine for a virus that cannot be really, to any appreciable extent, transmissible between humans. And that's if you're preparing for a doomsday scenario where somehow a highly transmissible strain emerges. And so remember, coronavirus used to be a cold, you know, and then we saw one that became airborne and highly transmissible, one of the most highly transmissible viruses we've seen. And so, you know, I don't want to go dark here, but, you know, there's so much monkey business going around. The bioweapons research, and, you know, they're doing, you know, by the way, there's no such thing as defensive bioweapons research. Like, anyone who's doing research in bioweapons, there's no difference between offensive and defensive defenses. So anytime they're like, monkey around with these viruses, you got to worry.
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Right? So it's Moderna there that is. And Moderna did, in fact, have a COVID 19 vaccine. If we're looking at. Can we put that back up on the screen, please? 2024 is the date of this when Moderna stock really was plummeting precipitously, you know, because of the fall off of the COVID 19 vaccine uptake. So. So, yeah, I mean, we're not saying we know why they would do this. We don't, but you make a good point. Why would they need to for a vaccine that you can only get from animals and has no human transmission? So, okay, you know, Dr. Robert Malone posted this. If this tweet today saying, you know, your odds of being struck by lightning are seven times greater than getting hantavirus virus. So it should not be a big concern for the vast majority of Americans. How do you feel about the odds? I mean, that's not really telling us, you know, the pathology, but it's just sort of the odds. What do you think the odds are?
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Tiny. I mean, again, a traditionally textbook answer. You'd only get it, like, the classic scenario is like, you get it from aerosolized, like, rat or mouse feces or urine. And so the classic transmission is like when you go to, you know, sweep out or dust out, like an old shed or barn or something where rats have infiltrated and they're, you know, their droppings are there, and so it creates a little dust, and you. You could inhale it, but Like Robert said, it looks, it's really rare and you shouldn't be concerned about it. Except for the question mark that I keep bringing up. Again, I don't want to falsely fear monger because. Because that's also part of the tactics. Right? I mean, I hate going back into Covid, but we know all of the. There was a catastrophe and it was man made and we saw how it rolled out and we saw how so much action was taken against early treatments that were effective and pointing us to vaccines. And do we see that same sequence of events starting to line up here? I really hope not. But you know what, But I'm gonna say something rather boastful. You know, those of us on the front lines who treat infections, we learned so much from COVID We have so many different things that are broadly effective antivirals, none more so than chlorine dioxide. I mean, if I had a sniffle right now or if anything started going around with this kind of virus, I would jump on it really quickly. And I have no fears that we could treat it. And like you mentioned, ivermectin would be a great candidate to once again then save the day. It's highly effective against RNA viruses, which is like hantavirus. And so have your ivermectin ready.
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Right. So I brought along this tweet by Dr. Bowden who put online that because this is an RNA virus, then ivermectin should work against this. And then immediately she's community noted. The community notes talk about, well, can you read them there? They talk about how, you know, it has. It is more to do with the nucleus than anything else. So, you know, I'm always, I don't know. Okay. This happened during the COVID 19 pandemic where we were not allowed to even use the term ivermectin on YouTube. We would have gotten punished. We didn't even say the word because our channel would have been punished for it. So I'm interested in what we are not allowed to know. So what do you think of this community? Community note.
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Yeah, I mean, it's the same pattern that we've seen throughout Covid. Right. Anytime anyone suggests that something might work against a treatment, when it goes. Because remember with COVID they had treatments that they wanted us to use and rely on and they constructed evidence bases around them to make them the only ones with sufficient evidence to use on a national level. And so anything that doesn't reach their threshold for evidence is always going to be like, as you said, community noted. Right. The same thing all the time. Insufficient evidence. Insufficient evidence. It might work, but don't rely on it. And I'll tell you, when Covid broke out and I wrote the book the War on Ivermectin, which is really detailing a massive coordinated disinformation campaign against Ivermectin. And it started right at the foundation of, of science in the manipulated, fraudulently designed trials trying to show that Ivermectin didn't work. But I want to go back to chlorine dioxide here because chlorine dioxide, people would write pamphlets and books and could sell them on Amazon. Do you know when they took them off on Amazon it was like the first thing that started disappearing in like 2019, 2020. And now you can't put anything with the words chlorine dioxide in terms of literature, advice, books or anything. I didn't even bother to put my book on chlorine dioxide on Amazon because it would never get there. And so we know that part of this strategy is to try to denigrate, suppress and censor easy, cheap, safe solutions. I'm sorry to say that, but it's true.
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So where do you buy your book while we're on the subject?
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War on chlorindioxide.com I had to self publish it. There's no way anyone would have ever published that. That's a fully self published book. But put a lot of my life into that. It was a year of study actually into a therapy that I had dismissed and discounted for a couple of years. I thought it was uncredible. And when I started to really dig deep, I found decades of suppression and censorship around that therapy.
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Wow. Okay, thank you. I will look for it. And then finally, what do you make of this? So people on social media are getting really anxious that hantavirus was listed as a possible adverse event for the COVID vaccine. Is it just because, you know, they're talking about anything that you can catch because a vaccine would lower your immunity or what do you make of this?
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That's a bizarro one that I don't have a neat assessment of. Like, okay, it's funny because a colleague had sent me that today a screenshot of the fact that it was listed as the side effect. And, and I'm like, why would, first of all, why would they list it? Why would you think that possibly it could be related to Covid? And I guess maybe there was just one person who had gotten hantavirus after cleaning out an old shed and so it went on there. So I think it's a weak association at best. But what actually kind of intrigued me more about what you said is a colleague told me that there was like 100,000 articles written around the world on hantavirus in the last couple of days. And that's not typical for a hantavirus outbreak. Certainly there's always attention and people get scared. But, like, that's the other thing. With COVID it was Covid, Covid, Covid 24 7. And then when you told, when you said in your intro about how it seems to be driven by influencers. I'm sorry if I'm getting too, like, I don't know, I actually never want to use the word tin hat because I'm not a tin hat. But these patterns are, are anomalous. Why with just this little outbreak of a few cases, suddenly, like, it's consuming the world's media cycle. Like, for instance, Aman talking about it today. You know, it's because it's being driven by something.
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Right? Well, that's, I mean, again, why I wanted to talk to you, because it, the hysteria is beginning. You know, is it time to buy the toilet paper? Is it time to get the masking? Is it just a media cycle? Because, because it's profitable for the media. But, you know, then you see these mortality rates and you're like, oh, well, okay, what do I need to know? But like you said, doctors learned during the pandemic how to treat things in a new way, how to diagnose things, how to look at things. Journalists should have too. So I'm asking the questions up front that we should have asked in December of 2019. So that's why 100%. Yeah.
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You know, Natalia, I want to make a point on that. In medicine, when you are faced with a patient presents to you with a problem. Let's say the classic is chest pain. They're complaining of chest pain. You do not immediately say that it's heartburn. Right. And dismiss heart attack. You Generally, in medicine, we're trained to always rule out the worst possibility first, you know, instead of dismissing it as benign and infection. I'm not saying that everyone should, you know, start getting toilet paper, doing all these things. But that's kind of why I'm bringing up possible treatments if our worst fears are realized. And this is another monkey business from bioweapons research. And that's why there's a vaccine that's ready and waiting. And suddenly there's a media firestorm that's bringing us a lot of attention to a cruise ship that whole sequence of events if that keys going. And then next week maybe you have me back on. We're talking about a very different situation. I, God forbid, I really don't want that to happen, but I know how to treat it and I'm sitting here sitting pretty. Not worried about it for me personally, but I would hate for another catastrophe to unfold.
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Right, okay. Well, hopefully this is just a media cycle like shark attacks and pedophile priests. But. But if it's not, we'll talk again and we'll learn from this. We're not going to do this again. This is not a fun sequel. We never meant to do it.
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Definitely. Thanks.
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Yeah. Okay. So again, you can go on waronchlorinedioxide.com to look into the book. Thank you, Dr. Corey, for joining us today.
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Thanks a lot.
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D
See you again.
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A
All right, let us know, Let us know how your paranoia is about hantavirus. Are you going to go and I don't know, buy some masks or what have you in a minute. We're going to take your super chats. But before we do that, I want to tell you about our friends at Brightcore Nutrition because again, we're talking about. Well, natural immunity is also something we weren't able to say during the pandemic. If you'd like to optimize your natural immunity, then you can optimize your gut health. One way to do that is with kimchi. Now, this is an ancient food that people have eaten for centuries. We don't always eat it in the west, but they eat it a lot in the East. If you don't really like kimchi or you don't know how to add it to your diet, well, you can take a pill form. Kimchi One from Brightcore Nutrition contains over 900 strains of beneficial probiotics that help flush toxins, restore gut balance and support your immune system. Because when your gut is strong, your body can resist and you feel the difference. Better digestion, more energy, energy, clearer thinking, stronger immunity and even improvements in your skin, hair and metabolism. This isn't just hype. Studies do show that fermented foods like kimchi can reduce the risk of obesity, improve blood sugar and support whole body wellness. Kimchi One is an all natural, non GMO dairy free, gluten free, 100% made in the US by a company that cares about your health. So if you use the code redacted, you can can get 25% off your order. Go to mybrightcore.com redacted Again, the code is redacted. Or if you call, you can get up to 50% off plus free shipping. 888-40-4-6312. And this is something that I do take if I don't eat kimchi. And most days I just don't think too. So this helps me not try to work so hard to work kimchi into my diet. So again, check them out and say thank you. That request redacted. That they sponsor redacted. We're so happy that they do. All right. How are we doing, boys? Are you feeling? How are you feeling? Virus. Oh, go ahead.
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E
Or, you know, I'm. I'm just. I'm just curious about, like, why. Why moderna would have. Would have had that vaccine. And I'm wondering if maybe they.
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They were.
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They created a vaccine to the strain of pantavirus that they had modified to make it.
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It.
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To make it the right.
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The correct one so that the vaccine is already ready to go.
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That is the question. That is the question that we have a high confidence in asking. Right. So. Yeah, exactly. And so how is your feeling about it? Like, you know, well, because.
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And it's like. Because like I said, I studied. I went to school for molecular biology and I did.
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I had a fascination with virology.
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I don't.
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I don't remember much about antivirus.
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I mean, the only thing, like when.
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When I heard about that outbreak, the only thing, I was like, I thought that was a. Like a. Like a mouse, like a rat virus.
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Yep.
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That was the only thing I remembered about it.
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Yeah.
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So it just like.
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I just.
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I don't.
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I'm not buying it as the. The next pandemic.
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But we'll see what they've got in store, I guess.
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Right. Exactly right. All right. What about you, David? On a 1 to 10 scale, are you feeling panicked about it?
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D
No, not at all.
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I got plenty of Clorox here.
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Okay. Sounds good. Yeah, no, I'm not good.
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I'm not worried.
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I'm in Thailand.
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They're not even talking about it.
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No. Okay, well, why don't we move on to our super chats. That stream was up, but now it's not. Do you see it? Ah, here it is. Okay, let's see. From adv, ride rider bloke. We've already been paying $10 a gallon for diesel in Australia for over a month. Holy moly. For diesel, even. Okay, sure. Jesse. Cheaters. No, cheaters. That's about the Jesse Waters clip that I found absolutely comical. Natalia. Anani. Go ahead.
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Oh, I just.
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That just absolutely like it. I. I could I. I don't know. I don't know how. Like, much of the Kool Aid I could drink to where they could get
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me to say that on air.
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I know.
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With a straight face.
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Right.
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Like, we want you to say that. I'd be like, no, no, I'm not doing that.
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No, I have.
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Dumbest thing I've ever heard.
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Yeah. I can't say things like that. Absolutely not. Okay.
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Winning.
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We're losing on purpose.
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Yeah.
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What the hell, dude?
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We're humiliating the them. We have all the control. Says the government. Okay, Natalia, thank you for your donation. Thank you so much. Okay, this is a good one. Southern Gritscom. If the media lies so often, how do viewers know independent media isn't also falling into confirmation bias? Well, you don't. You gotta be on guard. Right. We tell you all the time, you shouldn't really trust people. There. David. Ike recently did a great piece. He's like, don't believe me? Follow the information. If something I say, I say to you makes sense, look that up. Follow it for yourself. If there's an influencer who's like, I always tell you the truth, I'm always going to get it right, well, then you have to be wary of that person. Right. So we all have to do our best to admit that the more you study, the let less you know, and just commit to constantly studying. So you can never know that. But it's a good question. Absolutely. And I think it's. It's also a good reminder. Break your loyalty to people and brands and, you know, only have a loyalty to the truth. Okay. Anybody uses psych fant. Narcissist is part of the script. I don't know what that is.
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I think it meant sycophant.
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I think they. Oh, they spelled sycophant wrong.
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Okay. Fed profiler Joe Navarro said it. They hide. That's in the MK Ultra puppet brainwashing. Okay. Do you know what that means, you guys? No. Okay. But thank you for that super chat very much. Mario or Maria? Maria Torres, 9789. And then this is something someone thinks the Ayatollah is saying, suffer to Trump. Suffer. Maybe. Yeah, I get what you're saying. Absolutely. All right. Well, yeah. And Jen says, trust you in your intuition. Absolutely. My mom was talking to me about my Scofield piece the other day. She'd never heard of the Scofield Bible. My mother is a Jehovah's Witness. We talked about what Clayton had said about the King James Bible, and I was like, mom, how do you Ever know, you know, these religious leaders, even the ones of her own religion, had their own scoundrel crises as well. And she was like, just pray on it. You know, that. That's. That was her answers. Trust your instinct and pray on it. So. Yeah. And don't lock in. Really don't lock into anything. I was just.
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And also, as far as, like, influencers
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and creators or whatever that are out
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here making content, the ones that I respect the most are the ones that will admit even the littlest thing they got wrong.
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Yeah.
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Because there's so many of them that will never, like, they'll say something wrong and then they never admit it. And a lot of them double down.
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Yeah.
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You know, so it's like if they. If you. If you're watching somebody and they. They have a bit of humility, those are the people that I trust.
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Yeah. And I don't know. I mean, don't. Don't do things because other people, you know, are doing them. Just listen to what other people have to say. Make your own decisions. I was seeing that Nick Fuentes was like, you know, Republicans went back on every campaign promise, I'm voting Democrat. And I was like, yeah, you're right. I don't know that I can vote Democrat, though. I mean, like, I can't vote for either of them at this point. They're a uni party. I don't know that voting Democrat is going to help us do anything, but I don't know. Let us know how you feel about that, because it's a uniparty choice. Go ahead, David.
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I'm writing myself in.
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There you go. This year, I'm voting for Grover, my dog.
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I can tell.
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I'll boast all over the Internet that I had one vote for president.
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Maybe I'll vote for you.
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Hey, that. I have two.
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Yeah, maybe, maybe, maybe I will. It depends. If you accept me as your running
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mate, then maybe the Foster boys.
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B
Well, that's three votes.
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A
There you go. We're on to something here. Yeah. I mean, but would you do it if you had to actually, like, campaign for something? For me, it'd be no, because I'm weird.
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Because I have to leave my.
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I've always thought, like, I always thought, like, what would I do if I did that?
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I would go out there and I
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would say, because, like, I do like
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every other politician did.
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I'd go out there and say, you know, we need to bomb Iran and bomb all this other stuff. And they get in and do the opposite.
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There you go.
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Where they're like, we're not gonna bomb anybody.
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And they do the opposite. I'd just be like, wow, this guy
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is, like, on fire.
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Yes.
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And I also thought to myself that
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if I ever stanza campaign, I'm gonna do the opposite of everything.
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And I.
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And I also thought if I ever did become president, I would have to
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spend my first six months in a bunker with one person that I trusted so nobody could get to me and poison my food because I know that they would want to take me out for the things that I would do.
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Okay. Okay. Yeah. Public enemy number one. Yeah. For me, it's just the timing. Like, I. I only have time between, like, 10 and 2, and then I'm too tired.
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I wanted.
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Can you run the.
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Run, Run the free world from 10 to 2?
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That was like Joe Biden. Remember? They said he's only really good in the middle of the day? I'm like, already there, and I'm 47. They're like, we can get.
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B
We can extend his day just a little bit if we can get him some ice cream.
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A
Yeah, but I'm already like that. I don't want to do anything fancy. I won't go to banquets, no ball gown, nothing like that.
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I'm getting my 3pm nap. That's not gonna. That's not negotiable.
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Exactly. So, yeah. So anyway, well, okay, that's gonna do it for us here on redacted for our live shows for the week. We will have content throughout the week. We really appreciate you being here, so stay. Stay tuned. Hit the notification button on whatever platform you watch us on, because then you'll get notified when we have new content. And I hope you have a fantastic weekend. My middle child is turning 14 tomorrow. My baby. My baby girl. So that's what I will be up to. So, yeah, Happy birthday to my. My middle daughter. She's amazing. Okay, have a great week every weekend, everybody. We'll see you here on Monday. Thank you so much for being here with us.