Price Andrew Arrested, Israel Controlled Epstein’s Security w Whitney Webb | Redacted

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Redacted News Podcast Summary

Episode: Price Andrew Arrested, Israel Controlled Epstein’s Security w/ Whitney Webb
Date: February 20, 2026
Hosts: Clayton & Natali Morris
Special Guest: Whitney Webb (investigative journalist and author)

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Overview

This packed episode of Redacted News dives into explosive developments in the Jeffrey Epstein saga, the surprise arrest of Prince Andrew, and new revelations about Israeli involvement in Epstein’s security. Hosts Clayton and Natali Morris are joined by renowned investigative journalist Whitney Webb, whose research has long connected Epstein, billionaire Leslie Wexner, organized crime, intelligence agencies, and high-level political coverups. The episode provides an in-depth analysis of these intertwined scandals, scrutinizes recent Congressional actions (or inactions), and explores the implications for justice and transparency.

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Major Discussion Points & Insights

1. Prince Andrew’s Arrest and Its Context

[04:56–07:06]

• Historic Arrest: Prince Andrew is arrested by British authorities for “misconduct in public office,” a charge related to leaking confidential material to Epstein during his time as a UK trade envoy.

  • Hosts note the irony: “This is like Al Capone being put away...for tax evasion. They got him. But not on the thing that, you know—not on the murder, not on the abuse.” (Clayton, [06:00])
  • No charges relating to sexual abuse, despite years of public allegations.
  • The King’s official response emphasizes the rule of law.

• U.S. Response:

  • Congressman Massie urges U.S. AG Pam Bondi and Cash Patel to seek justice:

    "We will know when there are men, rich men in handcuffs being perp walked to the jail." (Congressman Massie, [08:12])

  • Host frustration that, so far, only symbolic figures are being held accountable.

• Conspiracy Allegations:

  • Lady Victoria Hervey, Prince Andrew’s ex, has suggested Israeli intelligence and Epstein coordinated to "bring down the Royal family"—a claim both hosts treat skeptically.

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2. Israel’s Involvement in Epstein’s Security

[09:22–12:18; 42:21–43:06]

• Confirmed Reports: New DOJ emails reveal that the Israeli government installed, managed, and controlled security at Epstein’s New York apartment starting in 2016.

  • Frequent stays by former Israeli PM Ehud Barak.
  • U.N. Israeli mission involved in vetting all staff/guests.
  • Raises concerns about what sensitive material may now be in the hands of foreign intelligence.
  • “The Israeli Permanent Mission at the U.N. was responsible for security at Jeffrey Epstein's apartment.” (Ryan Grim via Drop Site News, [10:43])

• Webb’s Contextualization:

  • Surveillance and blackmail for manipulation of U.S. policy is part of a documented historical pattern with Israeli intelligence.
  • Recording compromising materials is “not anomalous... governments have done this for a long time.”
  • “If Israel has stuff, they’re obviously not going to share it...this case shows that they definitely do that to other people as well.” (Whitney Webb, [43:06])

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3. Leslie Wexner: The Untouchable Billionaire

[15:00–18:43; 24:14–27:15; 66:03–68:25]

• Congressional "Accountability":

  • Wexner (Epstein’s main financial sponsor) is interviewed by Congress at his home—not in public, and not under scrutiny.
  • “He had Congress come to him instead of having to go to Congress. Exactly how Leslie Wexner operates.” (Whitney Webb, [16:38])

• Webb’s Research:

  • Wexner’s deep, decades-long ties to organized crime, intelligence (especially Israeli), and money laundering.
  • The Wexner Foundation: Trains leadership for AIPAC and Israeli officials, making prosecution politically unlikely.
  • Links to scandals (Chinagate, Iran-Contra) and cover-ups, including the murder of Arthur Shapiro—"leaving murders, among other things, unsolved to allow him to continue in impunity.”
  • Cites Catherine Austin Fitts on Wexner’s role as “one of the main launderers for organized crime cash flows in the U.S.”

• Congressional Softball:

  • No pressing on financial inconsistencies, power of attorney to Epstein, or organized crime links.
  • “If you want to believe the Wexners, that Epstein embezzled $42 million, they were just like, 'okay, that's fine by keep the $42 million.'” (Webb, [23:37])

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4. Wider Network: Epstein, Wexner, and Transnational Power

[27:15–32:37; 36:56–41:45]

• Epstein as a Front:

  • “Epstein was a front for a broader network...still has their claws over the U.S. government.” (Webb, [31:28])
  • Epstein's links to tech (cryptocurrency, transhumanism), organizing crime-finance cabals (e.g., Rothschilds).

• Sultan bin Suleim and the UAE:

  • Attempts to take over U.S. ports, with political cover from the Bush administration.
  • Ties to Andrew Farkas, the Trump/Kushner circles, and money moving networks used in Iran-Contra.
  • Epstein’s involvement in setting up proprietary telecoms for trafficking purposes.

• Middle East Connections:

  • Epstein’s historic ties to BCCI (a major CIA shadow bank), sex trafficking, and manipulation across UAE, Saudi Arabia.
  • “This is something that people of that power level...are able to engage in if it is their proclivity.” (Webb, [63:17])

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5. Big Tech & Surveillance: The Palantir/Carbine Nexus

[45:39–48:31]

• Peter Thiel & Palantir:
  • Co-investor with Epstein in Carbine, an Israeli surveillance company (run by ex-IDF, chaired by Ehud Barak).
  • Carbine now controls wide U.S. emergency call centers—harvesting smartphone data, creating 'pre-crime' systems.
  • “You don't need an Epstein blackmail-style operation if you have Palantir.” (Webb, [44:16])
  • Thiel and others routinely deny their Epstein links until evidence emerges.

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6. The Clintons & Ongoing Cover-Up

[48:40–55:41]

• Upcoming Clinton Deposition:

  • Webb not optimistic—expects stonewalling, focus only on post-presidential ties, despite at least 17 documented White House visits by Epstein.

• Middleton/Chinagate:

  • Webb points to Mark Middleton (Clinton aide, tied to Chinagate), whose suspicious death mirrors other mysterious Epstein-linked deaths.

• Multi-layered Influence:

  • The Clinton Foundation and the Clinton Global Initiative were “provably set up by Epstein” (especially for international projects).
  • Epstein’s expertise in money laundering and “reputation laundering” was a key draw for elites.

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7. Obstacles to True Justice & Remaining Risks

[60:33–63:17]

• Why More Arrests Are Unlikely:

  • “Wexner’s way too powerful…the risk of trying to go after someone at the same level of Epstein is that they might talk.” (Webb, [60:33])
  • The lone-wolf “Epstein as fall guy” narrative is carefully maintained—even when supporting cast like Jean-Luc Brunel talk, they end up dead.

• Blackmail Goes Digital:

  • The digital era (Palantir, Carbine) has moved blackmail from physical compromise to massive profile collection and predictive policing.

• Global Nature of the Network:

  • Many victims are from Brazil, Eastern Europe, France; most investigations stay U.S.-centric and ignore this network’s reach.

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8. Rothschilds, Power, and Untouchability

[66:03–72:49]

• Wexner’s Admission:

  • In newly released video, Wexner confirms he gave Epstein enormous power of attorney (“hundreds of millions of dollars, his entire empire”) on the alleged recommendation of the Rothschild family.
  • “If any family is untouchable, that's one of them. And I doubt investigators would get very far in probing that family.” (Webb, [72:49])

• Historical Context:

  • Robert Maxwell (Ghislaine’s father) set up the Rothschilds’ shift to Wall Street, with Epstein the inheritor of both power and criminal methodology.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Prince Andrew’s Arrest:
  "This is like Al Capone being put away...for tax evasion. They got him. Not on the murder, not on the abuse.” — Clayton ([06:00])

• On Congressional Deference to Billionaires:
  "He had Congress come to him instead of having to go to Congress." — Whitney Webb ([16:38])

• On Wexner’s Power and Network:
  "His money is everywhere...He has extremely deep ties to numerous officials in the Israeli government...those Wexner fellows essentially run AIPAC." — Webb ([18:43])

• On Intelligence, Surveillance, and Blackmail:
  “This type of behavior in which Epstein engaged in is not anomalous...that network...has globalized organized crime.” — Webb ([43:06])

• On the Epstein Narrative:
  "Epstein was a front for a broader network that still very much have their claws over the U.S. Government and obviously the future of the U.S." — Webb ([31:28])

• On the Digital Shift in Blackmail:
  "You can do all of that stuff digitally now...with Palantir, you don't need an Epstein blackmail-style operation." — Webb ([44:16])

• On the Risk of Further Prosecutions:
  “The risk of trying to go after someone at the same level of Epstein is that they might talk.... So they'll keep running with the lone fall guy narrative.” — Webb ([60:33])

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Key Timestamps

• 04:56 — News on Prince Andrew's arrest
• 09:22 — Israeli security confirmed at Epstein’s NY apartment
• 15:00 — Wexner Congressional testimony and “old man” defense
• 16:38 — Webb on Wexner’s immunity, criminal networks
• 23:37 — Discussion on Wexner “losing” $42 million to Epstein
• 27:15 — New findings in Epstein files: deep tech, surveillance, currency manipulation
• 43:06 — Israel’s history of blackmail, intelligence operations
• 45:39 — Carbine, Peter Thiel, and digital blackmail
• 48:51 — The Clinton Foundation, Mark Middleton, suspicious deaths
• 60:33 — Who might be the next fall guy?
• 66:03 — Wexner confirms Rothschild link
• 72:49 — Rothschilds' untouchability and Webb’s conclusions

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Summing Up

This episode, anchored by Whitney Webb’s remarkable research and historical knowledge, exposes the intricate web of relationships underpinning the Epstein scandal. The narrative presented suggests that true accountability remains elusive due to powerful interests and a legacy of cover-up stretching from organized crime to the top echelons of intelligence and finance. It urges listeners not to be distracted solely by Epstein but to look further up the chain to the untouchable power players he served.

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For More

• Whitney Webb’s site: Unlimited Hangout
• Webb’s books for source material and deeper dives into these networks
• Watch for Webb’s forthcoming article on the Dubai/port angle and further Epstein revelations

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All right, all right, all right. Welcome in on this Thursday. So glad to have you here. We've got a busy show, very big details emerging about, well, Prince Andrew's arrest in the UK Les Wexner, information that we want to get to Israel, running security at Jeffrey Epstein's home in New York. That has been now confirmed. And by the way, most all of these stories that you're hearing about the mainstream media is acting like these are new things. But our guest today, Whitney Webb, who's going to be joining us in a few min, was telling all of about all of us about this in her writings and her books as far back as like 20, 2018, 2019. So she's gonna be joining us on the show today, right?

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Even we had the morning news on us. We're getting the kids out the door this morning. Not even pris Andrew, like that's a lead story. They're just, they're leaning it was. It's the crazy. I can't. You can tell. I cannot. Okay. I will be able to formulate sentences today. We have a lot to get to, so let's go ahead and get to it. Before though, we get to the news, Clayton wants to tell you about our friends at Rumble Wallet.

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Oh, for him too though. Because we learned from David Icke that he was best friends with Jimmy Saville. Had him in the palace quite a lot. So in that context, his brother's behavior may not be a one off. So can we look into that at all? Or is. Or is this the sacrificial meat of the royal family?

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Meanwhile, stateside, still no arrests in the United States. But Congressman Massie tweeted this a short time ago. Prince Andrew was just arrested. This was the metric I established for success of the Epstein Files Transparency act that Representative Khanna and I got passed. Now we need justice in the United States. It's time for Attorney General Pam Bondi and Cash Patel to act on this. I don't know. Cash Patel is pretty busy doing Dan Bongino's podcasts and patting themselves on the back. How great of job they've been doing here. Was Congressman Massie explaining that. I don't care if we have billionaires being embarrassed by all of this. We need arrests and we need perpetrators in handcuffs.

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Some of them will be embarrassed, but some of them need to go to prison. And the survivors know that.

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bill has been successful? We will know when there are men, rich men in handcuffs being perp walked to the jail.

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And until then, this is still a cover up. Prince Andrew's ex girlfriend, Lady Victoria Hervey, says Prince Andrew was set up by Israel through Epstein in order to bring down the Royal family. She admitted this on tv.

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I want this guy to stay alive.

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But who is the boy in this case? What is the motive of the person who in your view, falsified this photograph?

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Oh, well, they were taking down the Royal family, weren't they?

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Well, who were? Maybe Israel, who knows? Israel? Goodness me. Come on. What do you mean, who knows? I mean, you're putting forward all these photographs you've got.

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No, this is real.

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No, it's not. This is all false.

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All right, we'll make go back to bed.

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Why would Israel be taking down the British royal family?

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Tell me that.

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Why would Israel do any of that?

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Why?

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Why? Why? Why not?

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And the photographs are fake. Okay, guys, you should not be getting your news there. That's not. That's.

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That's not okay. Meanwhile, in the United States, the Israeli government, we learned from reporting today from dropsite news, had installed and maintained security systems at Epstein's apartment. I'm just going to quote directly from this. The Israeli government installed security equipment and controlled access to a Manhattan apartment managed by convicted sex off Jeffrey Epstein, according to a set of emails recently released by the Department of Justice. So they set his equipment was installed starting in early 2016 at his residence where former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak frequently stayed for stretches at a time. The security operation was called Ehud's Apartment. Not, not ambiguous at all. It was in place for at least two years, emails from the DOJ disclosure show with officials from the Israeli Permanent Mission to the United nations corresponding responding regularly with Epstein's staff regarding security. The apartment was technically owned by a company connected to Epstein's brother, Mark Epstein, who was effectively controlled by Epstein himself. So basically Israel took over security at Epstein's home. They were literally in charge of security. Who's coming? Who's going? Watch Ryan Grimm from Drop Site News explain this. Reporting the Israeli Permanent Mission at the UN was responsible for security at Jeffrey Epstein's apartment.

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That's in.

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That's according. Yes, so that's according to emails that we found in the files.

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So I have been reliably told that you are an anti Semite if you look at all into Jeffrey Epstein's connections to Ehud Barak or Israel. Ryan. So you just tread carefully. So what's probably going on here?

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So this is related to Ehud Barak staying for such long extended periods of

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time in his apartment, which undercuts Ehud Barak's previous argument that I barely know

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the guy, I have no relationship to him. He was staying so much in the apartment that the Israelis literally took over

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security for the apartment.

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So the maids and any and any guests that went in and out of

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the apartment had to go through background checks and had to be confirmed and coordinated with the Israeli consulate at the,

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at the U.N. okay.

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I mean that suggests to me that whatever the United States government has in terms of evidence, the Israeli government has other things because we know that the United States did not actually do a proper discovery. And a raid on Epstein had notice about the raid on his house. So there is more in the hands of foreign governments. We can be sure. We should have always been sure. But this suggests to me that that's. That's the nail in the coffin of that theory.

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DJ Holendica in our chat room says pretty sure Israel is the first who made the. The USB. USBs. That said, I think that they have a backdoor to all USB connections.

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Okay, well, I don't know about that.

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Thank you for that. All right, we got Whitney Webb is going to be joining us next to talk about Les Wexner and so much more. All of her reporting. Whitney hasn't done an interview in months. Although if you've, if you've been online and you see like all these fake videos that pop up that purport to show like Whitney Webb and her face, and it's like a thumbnail with Whitney, it's like, no, no, these are all fake AI Slop videos. So she hasn't done an interview in months and so, you know, taking care of her family. So we're thrilled to, this is the first interview that she's done, I believe, in 2026. So again, if you see all these AI slop videos out there, that's not her.

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They're different.

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Yeah, totally different. So they went to Ohio to conduct a closed door deposition about his decades long relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. No, Republicans attended in person. Okay. Why? There was no public testimony. Now we're getting small bits of this in video clips, but we didn't for a while, so. Yeah, must be nice to be, you know, so rich and connected. Now, remember, he was Epstein's main source of funds for years. When asked if he'd ever. Even though we now have proof that he was named by the Justice Department as a co conspirator, he was asked if he'd ever been interviewed by the FBI or the DOJ or any law enforcement. He said, no, I'm brand new here. I mean, I've had people say my name a bunch, but I've been living my best life. Here is his statement he released. It's very much. I'm an old man. I have this nice family. I'm too old for this kind of thing. Epstein only had power of attorney because I was too busy with my very important empire that was started with bootstraps and shoelaces and a couple coins on the floor. Basically, that's the story. Okay. Well, for years, investigative journalist Whitney Webb has argued that Wexner was not a peripheral figure. This is not brand new to her. It is brand new to the media. And so we're so lucky to have her join us today. I believe this is one of your first interviews since all of this document dump, so thank you so much. It's great to see you. How do you feel about Lex Wexner getting this, you know, millionaire billionaire treatment?

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Great to see you.

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Yeah. Well, nice to see you all, too, and thanks for having me. Yeah. So it's really not. It should be pretty telling to everyone that he had Congress come to him instead of having to go to Congress. Exactly how Leslie Wexner operates. He's the richest man in Ohio. As I've documented my books in a series of articles, he's been linked to crimes that have been covered up by the Columbus Police Department, leaving murders, among other things, unsolved to Allow him to continue to engage in the impunity that he has enjoyed pretty much his, you know, ever since he began engaging in criminal activity, which, as far as I can tell, at least goes back to at some point in the early 1980s, around the time he was, you know, becoming a billionaire, which I believe was in 1985 or so. And I mean, honestly, you know, Congress has said that they're going to release the deposition and videos of it and are making it like a big show that there's been accountability because Wexner, who was named a potential. Or was named a co conspirator, and they redacted that, you know, that he's finally been interviewed in connection with his role in Jeffrey Epstein's network. I mean, it's just, honestly bonkers. I think what we can anticipate to see in that video, if and when it is released, is a lot of softball questions. Wexner denying everything and then being like, yeah, okay, thanks for your time.

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Right, yeah, thanks for flying out. I hope you had a nice lunch here at my mansion in Ohio, but I'm not going to Washington, D.C. anytime soon. Do you think that there will be any prosecutions? We've seen now a member, former PM in Norway arrested. We have Prince Andrew arrested in the uk I think those are the only.

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He was released.

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Oh, he was released. Okay.

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He was released after 11 to 12 hours, I believe.

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Okay. So. Yes, so, but my question is that's the only two. One of them's been released. Do you think we're gonna see any other actual arrests in the United States, but prosecutions?

[C]

Yeah, I don't anticipate Leslie Wexner being arrested at any point. He is far too powerful, and his. His money is everywhere. And honestly, he has extremely deep ties to numerous officials in the Israeli government. Through his philanthropies, he focused pretty much the bulk of the Wexner foundation on training up prominent figures, first in the U.S. in the U.S. and the Jewish community in particular. And now those fellows, those Wexner fellows, essentially run aipac. It has an extremely close relationship with aipac, obviously one of the most powerful lobbying groups in the United States. And the other side of his leadership training via his foundation has been with Israeli public officials who have, you know, these relationships as a result of that with Wexner. And I doubt, you know, given, you know, apex influence as well as, you know, what you touched on earlier with Israel's role with Epstein, it just does not seem particularly likely in any capacity. And I would also refer to the Fact that one of the things that will never be investigated is the role of Epstein and also Wexner in this scandal that was covered up in the mid-1990s under the Clinton administration that's remembered today as Chinagate, but was obviously a lot larger than that. It was a smuggling operation that utilized Southern Air transport, which you'll remember as the CIA front that was used to smuggle drugs and weapons during the Iran Contra era. After the Iran Contra era, the Iran Contra crowd utilized the the same network again to facilitate Chinagate. And they use Southern air transport, which came into direct connection to be dominant in that same period of time was dominated by Leslie Wexner and Jeffrey Epstein. And they had it relocated not that far from New Albany, Ohio, just to run their cargo, ostensibly for the Limited from the Rickenbacker Airport in Ohio to Hong Kong. And people like Ohio's Inspector General called it the Mayor, Lance Minsky Root, because he argued they were affiliated with the mob. And Columbus PD just a few years prior had produced a document linking Leslie Wexner to the mob and his network in the murder of the, of the lawyer for the Limited, Arthur Shapiro. And in that document they detailed extensive ties of Wexner to organized crime affiliates. And as I noted in my book, citing Catherine Austin Fitz, she was at a, at an event and overheard a government official say that Leslie Wexner was one of the main launderers for organized crime cash flows in the United States. And this is something, as I've detailed in my book, that Epstein was very involved with this network that involves organized crime and intelligence, specifically in allowing them to illicitly move funds and in money laundering. And so, I mean, arguably Epstein was a front for that, for Leslie Wexner. And this is stuff that they absolutely will. They just can't touch with a 10 foot pole without massive reverberations, you know, for the national security state of the US which has been beholden to this, I guess, shadow government of sorts in which Epstein operated. But he was a middleman for it. He was not the head of it. And so until there's an investigation into the people behind Epstein, including Wexner and justice there, I think most of what we're going to end up seeing is going to be superficial. And maybe more will be admitted or discovered in these Epstein files, but don't expect the government to necessarily do anything about it.

[B]

Right. Superficial is the right word because it seems like, and we don't have the full tape, but Democrats just were like, what did you know? Nothing. Okay, that's that's fine. We're going to go talk to the cameras now. So they didn't actually come with details of. Why'd you kick people out for asking about this power of attorney? What. Why would he have more rights than you to your estate? How come he can buy islands and you just kind of don't know, which is what? You know, you and I might come with a lot more homework and say, explain these things, and they let him get away with, like.

[C]

I just. I just don't know. I don't know.

[B]

So why. Yeah, go ahead.

[C]

Well, I was just gonna say a lot of Wexner attempted to wash his hands of this years ago, saying that they disentangled themselves in 2007, and since then, it's now been shown that they were communicating a year after that. So now it's proven that he was lying. But basically, you know, the excuse he gave is that Epstein embezzled money from the foundation, but they never showed any proof of that.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Money was moved around. He's like, I'll never get evidence that Epstein embezzled it. Yeah, they never charged him. They were. So if you want to believe the Wexners, that Epstein embezzled $42 million, they were just like, okay, that's fine by keep the 42 million.

[A]

Which friend of the show, Derek Bros, just wrote a piece about Les Wexner's very bad week is not only he had to testify in front of Congress, but also in the OSU sexual abuse scandal. And there's a whole hornet's nest there tied to, of course, his brands and osu. I mean, maybe you could talk a little bit more about that.

[C]

Well, he's one of the main donors to osu. I think their medical school is named after him. He's been on, like, the board of overseers or trustees of OSU for a long time. I'm not sure of his specific connection to the sex scandal, but I think it's worth looking into, considering that not only do you have, you know, for example, as we have just discussed, his connection to Jeffrey Epstein, but other executives that worked under L Brands for Wexner, including, I believe, the former head of Abercrombie and Fitch, have been charged with sex crimes against minors. So why is this a repeating pattern around Wexner money? Right.

[A]

Such a good point.

[B]

Now, I'm very curious, because I only in these files, learned about Dennis Hirsch, who took over for Wexner, and he said, look, Dennis Hirsch had the same power of attorney, the same. Is that true? And do we know Anything about continued involvement, or is there a credible story that, like, it ended with Epstein?

[C]

What do you mean it ended with Epstein?

[B]

Any kind of, you know, suspicion. Any cloud of suspicion ended around Les Wexner when he sent Epstein packing in 2007.

[C]

Oh, you mean in 2007, Wexner stopped engaging in any and all potential criminal activity.

[B]

And so. And so his. That is, his story is, I was never connected to any criminal activity in the. Dennis Heard comes in, and then there's no cloud of suspicion ever again. So I don't know much about Dennis Hirsch. He says in this deposition, in this statement, that Dennis Hirsch had the same power over my estate that Epstein always had once I replaced him. So what do you know about Dennis Hirsch, and is that true? And he's dead now.

[C]

I haven't actually followed Wexner's finances extensively beyond the connection with Epstein. So that ends around the time of Epstein's first arrest. And obviously from that point on, Epstein rebranded as, you know, a tech investor and got involved with people, a lot of the big tech people like Peter Thiel, and was moving money around for people like Leon Black and Bill Gates and what have you so seemingly moved on from him in that period. But given, you know, a lot of his activities earlier on from that period, which I have studied extensively, I don't really anticipate that a lot of Wexner's activities that are less than legal would have discontinued just because he replaced Epstein with someone else.

[B]

Right. All on the up and up now.

[A]

Yeah, it's all good. You know, you've been reporting on the Epstein files for years, or what's, you know, Jeffrey Epstein, specifically for years. What do you. Since we haven't had a chance to talk with you since these files dropped, and you haven't done any interviews about it, what is genuinely new to you in these files that you maybe didn't know before? What changes is the story and what's just like maybe repackaged material that you've known for a long time.

[C]

So, you know, I haven't had a chance to. I mean, it's like millions of files, so I can't really speak to the whole dump.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And say. But it's definitely corroborated a lot of things that I've reported in the past. What did that. That's Israeli intelligence stuff. I've been working on a story on and off since 2023 that I'm actually about to release. But it was about. About this chic, who has now been noted as having been redacted by the DOJ who was sending torture videos to Epstein. I was following that guy for a while and then all drop site published emails between them last fall. And now there's even more that are just extremely disturbing this time. So that really opens up that story even more. And I'm actually kind of glad that I ended up waiting a couple of years to publish it, just because it'll be more comprehensive now, because that's a story that really goes back to the Bush administration. And not a lot has been said about Epstein and his time at the Bush administration. Allegedly, the sweetheart deal, you know, received approval from higher ups in the, in the Bush administration. According to Nick Bryant, it was either former Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez or it was George W. Bush himself. And if you look at that particular relationship, it was going on in the Bush administration and may have had a role in the Bushes wanting, or Gonzalez potentially wanting to keep the heat or help keep the heat off of Jeffrey Epstein. But there's a lot of things, and it's hard to cover them all because as a, you know, for a long time, it should have been pretty clear to people that have followed this case closely that there are a lot of different angles, goals, because Epstein had a lot of interest and put and directed money to a lot of different avenues. So one example is transhumanism. Another is his interest in eugenics. These are reflected in the emails that have been released. His interest in cryptocurrency and stable coins and bitcoin, things of that nature. And I mean, really, any other angle you want to talk about from, you know, the period these emails cover is reflected in there. But what's interesting is that there aren't a lot of emails from the early 2000s, when some of the stuff with the Bush administration that I'll be publishing a report on soon were going on. And that, you know, some of these new releases paint that in a more interesting light than maybe, say, before their release. So, again, I think people are going to continue to find things because there's, you know, 3 million files or so to dig through. But ultimately, you know, what's going on in this case is you have Epstein fronting for a broader network and so keeping the focus on Epstein. I mean, it's important obviously, to understand what he was doing, but we have to understand too. And what I've endeavored to show is that he was fronting for a larger group that still very much have their claws over the US Government and obviously the future of the US and much more. And so we should pay attention to that and also not become so distracted by searching for things in the files that we, you know, ignore the fact that, you know, for example, Israel, who is very involved with Epstein and allegedly used comprbant and blackmail to manipulate US policy, has been trying for decades to get the US to go to war with Iran on that's behalf. That could very well happen. So let's not forget to pay attention to other things and be, you know, fall into, you know, get distracted at a time when, you know, the people that Epstein helped serve among other groups might be finally getting what they want at a, at a major cost for American lives and money and obviously other civilian lives, among other things. I guess there's a lot more I could say too, but ultimately I think there's a lot more needs to, to be done in investigating Epstein's activities as it relates to finances. There's a lot of ties to things, various financial crisis efforts to short currencies around the world. He was a known forex trader. He worked with a lot of currency traders and had connections to them. People like Jimmy Goldsmith, for example, and others that were referred to by the New York Times in the 90s as a cabal of, of, you know, currency traders that were basically destroying whole economies. And pretty much everyone in that cabal has ties to the Rothschild banking dynasty which Epstein in these recent files acknowledge he represents. But it's. That's quite clear that was the case if you read my book, Robert Maxwell openly fronted for them among other interests. And so if we don't follow these threads, as I've, you know, been saying, away from Epstein and higher up, you know, he was being puppeteered by people and he was obviously abused to them. I think the narrative that Epstein was an idiot and all of this, maybe he didn't use good grammar and emails, but he was obviously sought out for his abilities in, you know, illicit finance and you know, smuggling, among other things. So I think, you know, it's important to keep all of that in mind if we actually want to, want to understand what was going in here and have any meaningful pursuit of justice.

[A]

A lot of things you just said there and I want to unpack. So. Well, let's just talk about this. So Natalie wants to ask you about the Clintons, which we will. The upcoming depositions. We'll get there in a minute.

[C]

Oh, good.

[A]

I want to follow up with you on the Sultan story because you said you've been working on that since like 2023 on Ben Suleim, who now has stepped down, you know, Big ties with that Epstein scandal, obviously in Dubai and their friendship there. So maybe we can dive more deeply into that. And then I also wanted to. Well, there's a lot I want to talk about here, so. And any kind of.

[B]

Just for one question.

[A]

I know, I'm just sorry, there's so many people firing questions here in our chat room as to, so take the Sultan stuff here. What do we know about this guy? How dirty was he and what was he involved with with Epstein? Maybe you can unpack that a little bit more.

[C]

Yeah, I don't want to give too much away because I would like the article to come out because I like having my sources publicly available when I go out and publicly talk about stuff. But essentially this was a guy that almost successfully took over every major port in the United States and it was facilitated to the outrage of Congress by top people in the Bush administration, some of whom later engaged in the Epstein cover up. And so if you've been following some of this recent reporting in the emails of, of the, of Epstein's relationship with the sky, they say the earliest they can date it to is 2000, 2006. There is photographic evidence it happened earlier at the time that this group was lobbying these top Bush officials to sign off on this, on this movement. It was really an acquisition of the existing port operator by Dubai, Dubai Ports World, which is what Ben Suleim was, was managing and intimately involved in. This is a guy that I was initially following and was the source of my article initially, which is Andrew Farkas, who's long been known as Andrew Cuomo's money man, as it were. And a lot has come out about his relationship with Epstein as well. But he's been a frequent business partner of the sky and connected him with Trump, for example, because with a DP World affiliated real estate firm, you know, Trump did a lot of his Dubai based UAE based building, including on the Palm Islands, which this guy ultimately controlled. And it, it gets crazier than that, if you can believe it. For example, Farkas has intimate ties to the missing HUD money that Katherine Austin Fitz has talked about at length for decades. It's pretty much provable that he was involved in siphoning a lot of it off and then gets intimately involved with this particular network, including Epstein, who was a known money launderer for the Iran Contra crowd and this, you know, shadow government of sorts. And then, you know, as we know from the, the later releases, you know, these were, they were very involved with Epstein's activities at the Virgin Islands. The Sheik Helped them purchase, helped him purchase his island when he normally wouldn't have been able to. This team of him and Farkas intimately involved in USVI stuff, even beyond Epstein co owned a marina with Epstein that he needed to, to control in order to traffic girls to and from his island. And also as I'll be reporting, a very disturbing proprietary telecom system that wouldn't have been accessible to anyone but them. So there's a lot of very disturbing things going on there. And I would add too that Andrew Farkas was listed as a reference by Jeffrey Epstein for one of his USVI companies along with Jeff Stali, which was apparently the jumping off point to investigate just Staley as part of this now settled court case between the USVI and JP Morgan. But if they went after Jeff Stallley for that, why didn't they go over, go after Farkas when he was, you know, listed in the same spot? And I would argue it's because he is, is way too close. Farkas is way too close to top very high ranking figures in the Trump administration that are intimately involved in Middle Eastern affairs.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Geez.

[A]

Maybe you can unpack that piece a little bit more. The Middle Eastern affairs piece as we barrel towards war with Iran, probably on March 1, according to sources we've been speaking Jared Kushner. Jared Kushner buying up Gaza and then the Israeli piece. I know people, and I want you to speak for yourself. People have conflated, I mean, what you have said about Israel and the Mossad connections and CIA and people like Whitney Webb says he's a Mossad agent and you have to come out and correct people on that. So now that we hear about the Israeli connections in the apartment, the security system and all of that, what can you say about the Middle Eastern Israeli connections with Epstein now and that are

[B]

still inside the Trump White House that you just said? That's fascinating.

[A]

Yeah, great point.

[C]

Yeah. So, well, regarding Andrew Farkas, the main connection, the closest connection there. Well, he's obviously close with Trump himself, but also he's very intimately involved with the Kushner family. And a lot of the money behind Kushner family real estate deals actually traces back to Andrew Farkas, not the Kushner's themselves. So people have argued that Kushner has an outsized influence on the Trump administration. So if true, I doubt any, any, any meaningful pursuit of Andrew Farkas would happen, even though he was involved in the infrastructure for the trafficking itself, among other things. And as far as Epstein's role to the Middle east in general, so it Depends on what Middle Eastern country you're talking about. There's obviously the UAE ties and his, his involvement with Saudi Arabia specifically Mohammed bin Salman, the Crown Prince, he was involved in advising their sovereign wealth funds apparently of both countries. He even his ties to the Saudis allegedly go back to the 1980s or so. If you may remember, he was found one of his residents that was raided because not all of them were contained a, you know, an Austrian passport that had a lot of stamps and or Saudi Arabia enlisted Saudi Arabia as an address. Actually this ties in kind of to the Prince Andrew story a little bit because in this period of time Epstein was allegedly the mentee of an arms dealer named Douglas Lease who was leading the representation of the UK's BAE systems in creating, which would later win the Al Yamaha deal, which is the basis for UK Saudi relation military relationship. And it was a hugely significant arms deal for Britain and BAE Systems. And actually Prince Andrew in that role as a trade representative would later step in to prevent investigating the legality of aspects of that deal and was also a big, I guess salesperson globally for weapons for BAA Systems particularly, which again is significant in that it ties back directly to, you know, Epstein's own mentor in, in arms smuggling and you know, Ben Solomon himself. You know his. When he first came out, it was a big charm offensive, right. But then he started promoting like this post oil vision for Saudi Arabia and a lot of the things he was promoting openly involved things that were funded by Epstein. You may remember, for example, he gave Sophia the robot citizenship in part of. And that robot was funded with Epstein money in part. And the, the people involved there did that. So and you know, and they've reported, you know, since 2019. But I think the photographs are now available that Epstein had pictures with prominent people from, you know, the Gulf countries, including Mohammed bin Salman, including Emirati sheikhs. And another thing to note there as far as the UAE ties go, is that Epstein had a. Had a relationship with the bank BCCI in the 1980s and potentially up until it collapsed with 1991, which was very important to this, this network in which he operated. And BCCI was investigated to an extent not as fully as I would like have liked by the U.S. senate and there's a U. S. Senate report on BCCI you can read and if you go to the end and sort of the appendix, they leave as an uninvestigated lead the fact that this bank, which was basically a CIA shadow bank, was, was running a sex trafficking operation very similar in terms of the how it functioned to what Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell were doing. But in the Senate report itself, it says that these mainly girls, many of them were prepubescent girls, were being basically pimped out to Emirati sheiks, and some of them would return with extreme bodily injuries from the encounter. Please go read that yourself because those, these are family lines, the way this stuff operates in the uae. So it's very possible that this sheikh that Epstein got involved with later is like the son of, or maybe even one of the people that engaged in that kind of activity with bcci. It was never investigated. So again, this stuff needs to be very properly investigated. And there's been a pattern of COVID up for a long time. Who covered up BCCI in 1991? It was then Attorney General William Barr who came back in the first Trump administration when Epstein was offed. Yeah. Covering stuff up again.

[B]

Right. Okay. Where should we go so we can

[C]

get into Israel now? If you want. Sorry. Well, I just felt like.

[B]

But that's a tangled web. That is important. I think that's not unrelated because this drop site news, news revelation that Israel was, you know, running security for the apartment that Epstein was in and Ehud Barak was there, it tells us unequivocally that there are foreign governments that have intelligence that our government does not. So we would never see things in our own justice.gov Epstein Things that may be in the hands of Israel or Iran. Even Iran is saying, you know, we have some evidence of US Corruption too. We don't know what to make of that. What do you make of that?

[C]

Yeah, I mean, if Israel has stuff, they're obviously not going to share it, but they have a history of doing this stuff even to their own operatives. So as an example, like Robert Maxwell, he was filmed and. And Israel filmed him having sex with, you know, a variety of women when he was in Israel domestically visiting for various purposes while he was working for Israeli intelligence. They kept files on their own. So if they do that to their own, you know, I think the Epstein case shows that they definitely do that to other people as well. And you know, it, as I've noted in my work, you know, this type of behavior in which Epstein engaged in is not anomalous. You know, and a lot of governments have done this for a long time, particularly this network which Epstein was involved in, which, again, I've argued for a long time as transnational in scope, but involves, you know, probably most closely the US Israel and then former Soviet bloc countries, as well as Russia and a Lot of that is thanks to people like Robert Maxwell and the people that he worked with to sort of tether that all together, if you will. Um, but ultimately the goal was to globalize organized crime, I, I argue it's a, at this point point defined itself into a, into a cartel. And they're really calling the shots, as it were, with a lot of this stuff. So one of the ways that they've done that historically is through recording people and compromising positions. So obviously I can refer you to my books because I unpack a lot of people in this network going back to the 1940s engaging in that type of activity. But another thing I argue is that Epstein, the type of sex blackmail activity he was engaging in was no longer, is no longer needed to blackmail people. You can do all of that stuff digitally now. And I think it's no coincidence that I argue that, you know, Epstein told Ehud Barack to check out Palantir, which I argue in my book is really, you don't need an Epstein blackmail style operation if you have Palantir operating. And, and there's a straight line, as I've noted in other past articles from the Promise software scandal which involved Israel, the CIA, this exact network, including Robert Maxwell, among other figures that pop up repeatedly in the story all the way through Palantir's creation as a rebranding of the the Bush era, totaling information awareness,

[A]

how program, how dirty is Peter Thiel, Alex Karp and their connections with Epstein in all of this?

[C]

So I'm obviously no friend of Peter Thiel. I've been very critical of him for some time. Back in 2019 I reported about his co investment with Jeffrey Epstein and Carbine previously reporty, which was headed up by Ehud Barack and he chaired the board, but they have since rebranded after the initial Epstein story. But that has not stopped them from taking over A litany of U.S. 911 emergency call systems which they now control in their run by IDF people. Even though they put a few token Americans on their board, it's still an IDF project, arguably a front company if you look at the other types of companies that Ehud Barack was creating with Israeli intelligence veterans in the same period that he created reporting Al Carbine Peter Thiel. You know, now we have over the past year doc, fresh documentation showing Thiel and Epstein's direct involvement in making those investments happen. But Carvine is a direct way to create this type of surveillance system in which Palantir also excels. You know, no longer says it's on its website, but When I reported on them, they had a. A functionality on their program where if you're calling 911 within a district controlled by this company, they can harvest any and all data off of your smartphone if you use one, and basically create a pre crime system determining if you or someone near you will call 911 and commit a crime at some point in the future. And again, Palantir is built around and was always envisioned to have the same pre crime functionality and has developed obvious and very clear ties to the state of Israel, potentially given this. This new audio release that may have been forged by Epstein himself, which is certainly of great concern. I mean, it's. It's absolutely crazy. But Peter Thiel has been asked about his relationship with Epstein several times. He is a liar. And a lot of these people, I should point out, that have denied their closeness to Epstein, including figures in big tech like Elon Musk or Aud Barack himself, or really any of these people. They just. Or Wexner, who we started with, they deny, deny, deny. And then proof comes out. Even though what's been released is estimated to be 2% of all of what the U.S. government has on Epstein. 2%. And we know how many of these people are liars. Why are we believing them at their depositions when they're asked these softball questions and they're just like, I didn't know anything bad was happening. Why are we believing them? It's crazy. So anyway, sorry, I got a little off track there.

[B]

Well, that's why I'm not looking forward to the Clinton's deposition, because how hard is it to just play dumb? That's the. That's what politicians do.

[C]

They're great at it.

[B]

That's what to expect. There's even an email in the. You know, Epstein's like, I have to give a million dollars to the Clintons. Okay, I'll do it. What is this for? Again, he doesn't even know.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And Hillary Clinton is out front saying, no. There's a lot of people involved. So can you discuss what you expect from the Clintons and, you know, what we know about the Clintons. That is not being discussed by the media.

[C]

Yeah. So I think we can expect similar stuff to what Wexner did with the Clinton deposition. I doubt will go too deep again. And I think, as has been the media coverage of Clinton this entire time, it will only focus on Clinton after he left the office of U.S. president. It will not focus on anything before then. Even though Jeffrey Epstein went to the Clinton White House 17 times and maybe More. Because there is also the case where a lot of Clinton White House visitor logs have obviously fake names on them to cover up the identities of the people, people who were coming and going. I'm sorry, but 15 visits to the Clinton White House by Donald Duck. I don't really think that was Donald Duck in the same period, you know, so potentially be more. No, I mean, that's literally a real thing. So it could potentially be more. But that's 17 confirmed visits we know about. Every time he went, he had a different woman on his arm. And they were of age, though, I should point that out. But, you know, this is what Epstein learned from his weapons dealer friends in the 1980s. People like Adnan Khashoggi, for example, who on his yacht would have a harem of women. Women, it was called, basically, butter up top corporate CEOs and government officials so that he could, you know, grease the wheels for his arms deals and his business. Epstein was really no different. Just he was running more businesses than arguably, Khashoggi was for a different set of employees, employers, and some of the same employers as well, when you count Israeli intelligence and the CIA in the mix. So again, there's going to be no scrutiny of these 1990s ties or these visits. A big reason why is the man that Epstein was meeting most of those times Mark Middleton, Because Mark Middleton was central to this aforementioned China Gate scandal involving Southern Air transport. He, when he was questioned in his role in China gate, pled the fifth 22 times, claims. And then Clinton left office. Nine, 11 happened and no one ever investigated China Gate again, even though it was basically had into. Well, I would argue one of the reasons for that is that it intimately, even though it's called China Gate, it intimately involved Israel basically selling sensitive US military technology using this Iran Contra network to the Chinese military. Obviously an outrageous scandal for US national security. But that shows you how influential this network is and how you know a lot of stuff about a China. Let's give up all our rights for a Chinese arms race with AI is a complete bullcrap narrative, among other things. But basically, Mark Middleton is, you know, we know that Epstein was ended up dead in a prison cell. We know Jean Luc Brunel ended up dead in a prison cell the same year that Jean Luc Brunel died in a prison cell. Mark Middleton died extremely suspiciously, even for other members of the Clinton kill list, as it's called. He allegedly wrapped him, wrapped around his neck, an extension sword, extension cord, hung himself, and then managed to shoot himself with a shotgun. In the chest that was discovered 30ft away, even though investigators initially said there was no weapon at the scene. And then immediately after a judge sealed all photographic and other evidence of the crime so it would never be released to stop the spread of harmful conspiracy theories.

[A]

Right. A gun that's 30ft away.

[C]

What Clinton's about, Mark Middleton, you will see how insane this all is. And they will not go there because obviously if they did, it would probably implicate Leslie Wexner as well as a lot of other people in this network that have sold out U.S. national Security Security, you know, to ostensible adversaries for decades. What about Israel's direct involvement, our supposed greatest ally? And one of the reasons this was happening is that arguably the most influential billionaire manipulating Israel's security complex apparatus in that period was a billionaire named Shaw Eisenberg that had a lot of ties to the Chinese government and it brokered their ties to Israel's national security state in the late 70s and helped broker, helped bring Robert Maxwell, among other people, to Mossad. He was a major operator. And so, you know, there's no real scrutiny of that relationship. But I would argue this goes even further. This goes to something that Samuel Psar, Robert Maxwell's longtime confidant and lawyer and a co conspirator in some of these things I'm talking about, openly told Congress in the early 70s that what was happening was the ride, the end of the relevance of the nation state and the rise of what he called the trans ideological corporation where multinational Western corporations were getting in business with state owned corporations in China and Russia, the communist bloc basically, and were building a network, an economic network that would supersede the national governments around the world and would basically take over the world. And he was asked by Congress if this was bad and he was like not really. And he said this in the early 70s and he along with people like the heads of IBM, people from PepsiCo, people from some of the biggest corporations in the, in the United States, openly created committees to make this happen. And he probably had intelligence ties. He represented Steve Jobs for Apple. And Steve Jobs was like, I don't know if he works for the CIA or the kgb, probably both. Because if you look at Robert Maxwell, you know, his, he was definitely involved with, you know, the, the, you know, the KGB, among other groups. He worked with KGB officers to spirit uh, gold out of the Soviet Union. And a lot of these guys were involved in capital flight from Russia after the, the collapse of the Soviet Union. They funneled a lot of it to Israel, where they helped get and install, you know, Russian mobsters like Simeon Mogilevich, get them Israeli passports so they could penetrate the US financial system. And our current president had involvement with some of those characters through his real estate deals and helped them launder money. So I don't really think think we're going to see meaningful prosecution of these groups with the current crowd that's in charge before we move on, even on

[A]

the take, before we move on from the Clintons Clinton foundation stands out to me as a major question, something to focus on. Do you think any the Epstein's ties to the Clinton foundation and how it was used, whether it was for sex trafficking operations around the world, medicine, et cetera. Can you talk about that?

[C]

Yeah. So the Clinton Foundation, I would argue, was largely set up. Major aspects of aspects of it were provably set up by Epstein. That's particularly particularly true for the Clinton Health Access Initiative and a lot of its work in Africa with aids, which obviously coincides with a lot of vaccination policy. And at the same time that Clinton set up his foundation, Bill Gates set up his foundation. They collaborate together on those things things. And Epstein has also obviously had an interest in these types of networks as well, for health, they say. But obviously, you know, in the COVID era, we became a lot more skeptical of those types of quote unquote philanthropies. And obviously Bill Gates as well as Epstein himself as as particularly revealed by some of these new releases, but it was known before have an outsized interest in eugenics and also transhumanism, which is the modern rebranding of eugenics. Even some of the people that used to run the British eugenic society, like Julian Huxley, you know, authored texts in the mid 20th century talking about how transhumanism was the future of eugenics and this is how they'd sell it to a new generation. These people are intimately involved with a lot of this stuff. And you know, Epstein was intimately involved in, in, in those aspects. But we have to go back to. To Epstein being intimately involved also in illicit cash flows, which the Clintons absolutely love and have loved for a long time. Ever since Clinton was in, you know, Governor of Arkansas through the presidency and after. And so, you know, Clinton foundation has obviously been dogged by what were once rumors, but thanks to WikiLeaks became, you know, proven that it was basically a pay to play scam in that they were taking money and then returning political favors. When Hillary Clinton was, you know, Secretary of State or they thought she might even be President. Right. And then after, you know, she lost to Trump in 2016, it dried up essentially. But also, you know, in addition to the, the other philanthropies, you have the Clinton Global Initiative, which was allegedly Epstein's idea according to his defense law lawyers. He was part of the core team that developed the concept for the Clinton Global Initiative, which is kind of like a Clinton broker Davos, you know, World Economic Forum style meeting. And you know, they, but they passed money around to, you know, Ghislaine Maxwell's Terramar, for example, you know, among other things. And so, you know, Epstein was obviously very sought out in the not profit world arguably because he was very good at tax shelters. And a lot of these billionaires want to, you know, get tax write offs or not have to pay money in tax. And so, you know, setting up these philanthropies the right way. When Epstein's background going back to his time at Bear Stearns was in tax evasion, you know, obviously I think that that points to why they were so interested in having him be involved in setting up their nonprofits. And there's also the fact that you had Epstein, you know, I think it was Bill Gates wanted to talk to Epstein about getting a Nobel Prize apparently because he had influence over the Nobel Prize committee. So I mean it went even beyond non profits. And so a lot of this world that we the public has been shown about these do gooder non profits and these do gooder philanthropists. It's, you know, Epstein was an expert in money laundering. He also became an expert in reputation laundering for these, these billionaires, most of which are criminals and some of whom are provably connected to organized crime.

[B]

When I was just leaving CBS in about 2010, 2011, I was asked to pitch a panel to the Clinton Global Initiative as a tech expert because I had been at CNET and CBS as a tech reporter and I pitched something I had just read Jaron Lanier about like fighting your addiction to social media. Social media. And I pitched something about not being addicted to social media. And they're like, nope, get out.

[A]

They didn't want that.

[B]

We want that to be addicted to social media. We are trying to entrap them. So goodbye. So I never got asked to speak, thankfully. That's just a little anecdote I thought you'd enjoy.

[C]

Okay, that is interesting.

[B]

Yeah, glad. Can I ask a question?

[A]

Go ahead, Philip. So yeah, so, so I'm like listening to all these ties and then just thinking, you know, like with Cash Patel coming out, like basically saying Epstein Traffic to no one. It's very clear that the people involved in this, the power behind it, want the fall guy to be Epstein. And nobody's buying it. So is there somebody else of equal level that they can turn and point to who's going to be the next fall guy? They can be. Actually this guy is really important in this. Somebody has to take the fall. And since Epstein can't do it because that's not working, like is there somebody else that they can kind of like point it at him? And could it be Les Wexner or is he still too powerful or is it just. They just have to stick with the whole Epstein traffic to no one?

[C]

Yeah, I think Wexner's way too powerful. I think the risk of trying to go after someone at the same level of Epstein is that they might talk. Right? So like Jean Luc Brunel was apparently, sorry, my glasses keep being super wonky, was in talk, talks with, to speak to US prosecutors and then he like to about Epstein and then disappeared and then he ends up dead in a, in a jail cell. You know, people that have information that could potentially incriminate beyond the spectrum, they want to keep the public focused on, you know, that's threatening. And so if someone is, realizes they're becoming the fall guy, they may try and squeal or they may try point the figure at someone else. That opens up a whole nother another level of risk. And they had been building, you know, ever since Epstein died in 2019, this narrative that he was the lone baddie and thank goodness he's dead, just like Bill Gates said when he was interviewed about it a few years ago, well, he's dead now, so it doesn't matter. Right. And so I think they're going to keep running with that honestly as long as they possibly can, because I think otherwise it opens up. Whether you go above or you know, at the same level, varying degrees of risk are there. I mean, maybe they might try and go for someone that worked for Epstein, ones that aren't already protected by the sweetheart deal, the non prosecution agreement. So you can forget about his executive assistant, Leslie Grof, that helped him plan a lot of this stuff, but maybe someone like his lawyers or. But that's, that should be protected by client lawyer privilege. Right? So I don't know, maybe his brother, Mark Epstein, who's been kind of given a, a pass by a lot of the people that have interviewed him, given that he owned these buildings that were bugged by Israeli security, government security, and full of these trafficked girls. Which, by the way, in terms of, you know, the, the amount of victims, I mean, we don't really know how many victims there were, but it was probably a lot given the volume of girls that were known to be in those apartments. And a lot of them were from places that don't get talked about a lot. So the most well known victims that we know about are Americans, but a lot of them were from Eastern Europe and Brazil. How many Brazilian and Eastern European?

[B]

There's a nine year old referenced. Yeah, nine year old Brazilian. Very cute or sexy or something like that.

[C]

Yeah. And Summer from France. You know, I mean, this was obviously something that was global in scope and there's really been no interesting and disentangling the global aspects of even just the sex trafficking operation.

[B]

And the past tense that we're using

[C]

though,

[B]

suggests I just, I feel like it's still going on and we don't. Like, how could we pull the thread to know how it's still going on? Because like you said, Epstein was not the ringleader.

[C]

Yeah. So like I said earlier, I think that a lot of this, at least with respect to blackmail, has moved to the digital realm because they compile profiles on you basically of your data that are scraped from everything you do online, and that ends up in a Palantir database accessible to every single US intelligence agency. There's 18 of them, and Palantir contracts with every single one. So on the other side of the blackmail angle, obviously Epstein didn't do this just for blackmail. I mean, he was a trafficker of many things. He was known for moving money from place to place, arms from place to place, and underage age women and also above age women that were young adults from place to place. So that is essentially the role he occupied. And so to understand again, how, you know, in terms of this, of the sex trafficking thing, obviously there was part of him that did it because he personally sexually benefited from that. And there are, you know, emails following his conviction showing that he was still talking about women that were either from, from these places he had drawn upon before and engaged predatorially and criminally with them. So he was, he may not have done it at the same scale. He did it before because, you know, some of the, the agencies, for example, that he had used once he became, by his own definition, radioactive after his first arrest, it was harder to publicly do business with Epstein, but he obviously had no women, no problem finding women to traffic after then and girls. So, you know, this is obviously something that people of that power level, if you want to call it, that are able to engage in if it is their proclivity. And obviously Epstein is not the only billionaire pervert in the United States. And so a lot of these people with access to money have obviously probably been able to access this because they've been doing it for decades and decades and decades and decades and oftentimes with state protection because they get involved with intelligence agencies.

[A]

Our guest is Whitney Webb. We got some new video that just was released from the GOP oversight committee. And I want to play. This is Les Wexner speaking to that they just released where he's claiming that Jeffrey Epstein specifically told him that he was a financial advisor to El de Rothschilds and the family of the Rothschilds. So I want to play this and just get your take on this, Whitney. I think it was his experience at an industrial level, like working for a big company like Bear Stearns and then

[C]

he had done personal work for the

[A]

Rothschild family in France. Personal wealth management, essentially.

[C]

I don't know. We've seen some reports that he would present himself as a bounty hunter, that

[A]

he would find people's missing money.

[C]

Do you recall him saying anything like that?

[A]

No book specifically. I talked to Ellie de Rothschild and so I mentioned that earlier.

[C]

So he, he represented their whole family. So there have been a whole bunch

[A]

of people, many, most of whom I never would have met. But I knew Ellie. I never met people, but there were people that called me that either insinuated or said they were knew Jeffrey through a financial relationship.

[C]

And

[A]

so, I mean, they could have been actors. But in the time a guy calls me up, I'll give you an example. Just, it's just because I want you to understand this because it's, it's so confusing to me. He would say like, I'm, I'm providing financial advice to the founders of Google. I'm financial, providing financial advice to Jeff Bezos. I'm finance, providing a natural financial advice for the chief technologist at Google. And I said, wow, I'm in good company because these are really smart guys with a lot of money. And you have to put yourself in the mindset of you, you, if my turn, if my attorney said, you know, he was qualified to argue in front of the Supreme Court, I'd believe him. I didn't say call the Supreme Court and say, tell me, is he really an attorney or did he do this? So Whitney, as you talked about Alex Westner, as you, as you mentioned, one of the biggest people pieces of this is the financial ties, right? That that still needs to be pulled Apart, this is one of the biggest pieces of the Epstein story here. Did anything he say there surprise you at all? That was Les Wexner.

[C]

Well actually what he said is known. So for example, as far as the Google co founders, he managed Sergey Brand's family trust and had a very significant ties, I believe that was that came out during the JP Morgan case in the US USVI where Sergey Brin was actually subpoenaed. But it was settled and never went to court. So I guess that didn't go anywhere. But he was intimately involved with Sergey Brin in particular. And I know Ghis Maxwell had significant ties to Jeff Bezos and the two of them cultivated lots of ties to the biggest names in big tech, Mark Zuckerberg, Reed Hoffman, Elon Musk and Peter Teal, among others. So that definitely rings true. And then of course Epstein claiming to represent the Rothschilds, that's obviously been made public in the emails as well. But I've argued in my book that, you know, after Maxwell's death, Robert Maxwell's death in 1991, he pops up with Ghislaine in public for the first time and is for all intents and purposes the heir to Robert Maxwell's portfolio, probably with Israeli intelligence and probably with some of the illicit financial operations that Maxwell was engaged with at the time. And also his link with, with some of these organized crime networks I was talking about earlier. But why did Robert Maxwell come to the United States? He made this big entrance into the, into the New York specifically a year or two before he, he died and brought Ghislaine with him. And the reason he did that was specifically for the Rothschild banking family. And this is actually in a New York Times article that I reference in my book. I forget the exact title of the article, but it's. It's like the Rothschilds mega dealer or something like that. But if you look it up on the archive, dealer is spelled wrong. They switch like the E and the A for some reason, probably to make it harder for you to find. But basically it says that the Rothschild banking dynasty that at that time, which was this article, came out in the 1980s, they saw it as an error that they had never properly established a significant foothold on YouTube US Wall street, they had focused instead in Europe and other theaters. And so in the night in the 1980s, they created a Rothschild entity on Wall street and they had it focus on mergers and acquisitions, specifically M and A's. And to do so they recorded and to ensure their success, they recruited some corporate raiders that they had A close relationship with from Britain. One of them was Robert Maxwell, and the other one was Jimmy Goldsmith, who was a cousin to the Rothschilds and also involved in the same organized crime intelligence link nexus that Robert Maxwell was also tied to via the Claremont Club, which I discuss in my book. And Jimmy Goldsmith, actually, Epstein was. Met a lot of his elite friends in New York, even though he's from there, but in the elite circle for the first time, as actually at Jimmy Gold's with Goldsmith's mansion in the area in the 1970s.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

Right after coming back from the United Kingdom on a backpacking trip when he dropped out of college, which I would argue it all kind of goes back to that crowd. So Goldsmith and. And Maxwell basically come over and engage in these M&As, fronting for the Rothchild family, specifically. And then Epstein takes over the portfolio. And then we know now, actually it's been coming out, I think, since there were new releases of Epstein information, I think, in the year after my book came out. So that would be 20, 23 or so downstream of the USVI case, when it was settled. Talking about his ties to the D. Ross Childs specifically, which is the French side, uh, of that banking dynasty. And if you have been paying attention, you would know for some time that Evelyn de Rothschild, in particular, very, very close to Jeffrey Epstein, she actually wrote a letter to Bill Clinton in 1995 that he should meet Jeffrey Epstein and talk to him about currency stabilization. So this is something that's been going on for a long time, and he's been very involved with this particular family, which, it goes without saying, has extremely deep ties to the state of Israel for an extremely long period. Period of his career. And again, I would argue that if any family is untouchable, that's one of them. And I doubt investigators would get very far in probing that family.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So, Whitney, will you hang with us for a few more minutes? We just got some more. Uh. Do you have to run? I just want to make sure that you're. We're not.

[C]

I have to pick up my kids, so.

[A]

How much?

[B]

I do, too, actually.

[C]

Eight more minutes.

[A]

Eight more minutes. Okay, so we'll just take a quick pause here. I want to ask you. There's some new Wexner video that just emerged. I want to get your take on that, and then we'll get you out of here so you can pick up your kids. So we'll just take a quick break, and then we'll be right back.

[B]

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[C]

All right.

[A]

Keep talking and then we'll run out of time.

[C]

I'll shut up. I'm going.

[B]

Goodbye.

[A]

Bye. Okay, thank you. All right, so we just got some new. We got some new video in, and they're starting to release pieces of this deputy position, and it's starting to starting to flow out. So I want to play this piece for you right now. Did you ever spend time with Epstein

[C]

and Donald Trump

[A]

together?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

I want to answer this question accurately. I would go to some of the Victoria's Secret fashion shows because they're very

[C]

important to the brand.

[A]

At some of the fashion shows, Jeffrey was there and some Trump was there. And I remember because Trump would always introduce himself to me, and I always thought it was kind of odd that he was at the fashion show because he had nothing to do with fashion. Did you ever spend time with Epstein? So he finds it odd that Trump would go to a fashion show and he had to go to these Victoria's Secret fashion shows. He wanted to see Beautiful women in their underwear backstage, but because it was so important to the brand.

[C]

Yeah, I don't really buy that. Well, actually, I mean, it's possible he wasn't interested in the. In the women. There's been rumors for a long time from local Ohio journalists that Wexner is not actually interested in women and that his wife is kind of, you know, a beard, as it were. Interesting. Which is very possible because in some of these files there, I believe, allegations from one confidential human source alleging that Epstein and Wexner engaged in relations themselves. And that, you know, has been alleged also, I mean, years prior, by a local Ohio journalist that covered Wexner and Epstein for a very long time in the 1990s and early 2000s, named Bob Fatrakis. So, I mean, maybe he wasn't actually interested. But what Wexner is interested in, by his own admission, according to this New York magazine interview that he gave in the 1980s, is accumulating more and more power and control. And the reason he says that in that article, it's so crazy, you have to go and read it, it's because he is. He considers himself demonically possessed by what he calls a debuk, which is the Yiddish term for a demonic possession. And he says he had it when he was a child. It left when he was a teen, and then when he was 40, it returned to him and makes him want to accumulate more and more power and become more and more powerful and grow his business. So, you know, given everything we know, that's just the icing on the cake, as it were.

[A]

Well, some of the other stuff that, you know, that maybe we haven't talked about here briefly before you have to go is, I want to just touch on the JD Vance connection here. He, as you reported, I mean, he did a fundraiser at Wexner's house to raise money.

[C]

Oh, he. When he was a low ranking guy. And I would argue that's because Ohio people, every Ohio politician has to try and kneel at Wexner to. To get anywhere. And that would go for people running for Ohio governor right now, like Vivek Ramaswamy.

[A]

Also Wexner's connections to APEC and so this deep web with Israel. But like I think you've reported over the years that that Wexner fund, I mean, funded or groomed, like a lot of the APEC people who then, of

[C]

course, lobby his foundation did, but he controls it. And the people he put in charge of it are. Have ties to this. It's a secret society. But a lot of the people in my book are openly part of it. It's called Banai Breath. It's the entity that gave birth to the Anti Defamation League, which trains, you know, fb, the FBI and law enforcement people. But their board of overseers involved a lot of people that pop up in this scandal for different reasons. But people like Edmund Safra in the 1980s was there when Wexner was recruiting from there for his foundation. Edgar Bronfman was there. And allegedly the Bronfmans is part of why Epstein ended up leaving Bear Stearns in 1981. Max Fisher, who was Wexner, considers him one of his business mentors or main business mentors. You could argue he had about three or so. And a lot of these figures that he was really connected to, so he pulled from there, and they have a lot of influence. Roy Con, who I've written about extensively, he was a mentor to Donald Trump, but also a sex blackmailer intimately involved with organized crime. He represented mob bosses like Tony Salerno, among others. He was involved in a litany of very shady stuff. He was also a big Banai guy, and his father actually ran it, who was a judge in New York, the New York chapter, which is considered to be the most powerful. And so, you know, you could argue that the Wexner foundation is kind of an extension of those power networks. And they've been basically, you know, that foundation has intimate connections to most of the top people at APAC and a little litany of high power Israeli public officials.

[A]

And we just confirmed part of this deposition that just confirmed that Lexner just confirmed under oath. And the GOP has now released this video, and he says under oath that he handed over total control, power of attorney, hundreds of millions of dollars, his entire empire, essentially to Jeffrey Epstein, because he was referred to him by Elder Rothschild. So basically, the Rothschild's involvement here is the tie that, like, brought him into this.

[C]

Well, he. He said for a long time that he met Epstein through Robert Meister, who was an insurance executive. I think at the time he was at A. A in 1986 or 1987, some sources say 1985. And that what Epstein became intimately involved in a EP in Wexner's inner circle around 1987 or so, and then in the early 90s, obtained all this power of attorney. But if you recall what I said a few minutes ago about how Wexner views himself and his. Where his ambitions for power come from. If he wants to become more powerful and wealthy, isn't it interesting that he would seek out someone like Jeffrey Epstein and give him complete power over his affairs to do just that for him.

[A]

Yeah, it's remarkable. And as you pointed out, too, this whole naive billionaire play that Wexner tries to pull off. I've even seen videos now that they're just releasing where his lawyer is reaching over to him, telling him. And he says to him in his ear, if you answer any of these questions with more than five words, I'll fucking kill you. Those are his words. The lawyer leaning over and telling Les Wexner not to say anything. Anything.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And you got to play the naive old man billionaire. Like, I don't know, I'm just an old man. It's like the mob. It's an old mob trick.

[C]

Isn't Trump odd that he'd be into models? I think it was pretty known by the time Victoria's Secret launched their fashion show in the late 90s that, that. That Trump was very into models and teamed up with elite models and John Casablancas to do stuff at the Plaza Hotel he owned and met them through Studio 54 parties. Again, Roy Cohn was involved in that and got connected with this world of supermodels. He married models. I mean, it's like, okay, well, how odd that Trump is into models.

[A]

Yeah, it's shocking. Whitney, you're incredible. Incredible reporting, as always. So Unlimited Hangout is your website. Of course you have new reporting coming out. When can people expect your. Your big new reporting to come out here on unlimitedhangout.com I mean, we'll see.

[C]

Hopefully the next week or two. It should be out. I don't have that much left, so happy to be wrapping that one up because it's been sitting there for a long time. But I guess there was. There was a reason for that. And now I can add a lot of these new emails to it to flesh out the story even more. But we have a lot coming up at Unlimited Hangout, a lot of pretty spicy investigations that are Epstein related, including one specifically into Wexner's personal fiefdom, where he hosted Congress. New Albany, Ohio. And a lot of, you know, ties there between Wexner and Epstein and things that are happening there right now. Wow.

[A]

Whitney Webb has got to run and pick up her kids. We're glad to have you back. Glad to have you back into the. Into the mix here and providing your incredible research and. And voice. We need. We need you out there. That's. That's for sure. It was a notable silence when Whitney was gone for many, many months. So thanks. Hope everything's great with you and your family and thanks for joining us here, Whitney. Great to see you.

[C]

It is. Thanks. Take care, Clayton.

[A]

Thanks, Whitney. Okay, we're going to get to all of your super chats here and questions you have. We're going to open it up here in just a moment. But first, when is the last time you woke up actually feeling rested? When's the last time you looked in the mirror and recognized the guy staring back at you? If you're dragging through the days with no energy, zero motivation, a gut that won't budge no matter what you do, a sex drive that's basically flatline, well, you're not alone. And no, you're not just getting older. Blokes was built for men who are tired of feeling like a shadow of who they used to be and want to actually do something about it. That dad bod, the brain fog, all of it, you know, it's actually tied directly to your hormones. Every blokes Lab includes a 30 to 60 minute consultation with a licensed clinician who connects what you're feeling to what's actually happening in your body and builds you a real plan to fix it. We're talking trt, peptide therapy, NAD and cephalomine treatments that get right to the root cause and help you feel like yourself again, stronger, sharper and actually present. So when you start with TRT or any of their part of this process with blokes, you can actually add ED or hair loss prescription for just $1 a month. So it's time to stop settling. Go to joyandbloaks.com redacted news it's J O I and blokes B L O K E S.com redactednews for 65% off your labs and 25 and 20% off all supplements. Again, that's joyandbloaks.com redactednews get 65 off your labs and 20% off off all your supplements when you use that code. Redacted News and you can also scan the QR code right there on the screen. All right, let's open it up for some super chats here and see what we've got. We've got a lot of them here. Okay, I'm gonna ignore thank you for all the Ryan Dawson stuff. Appreciate that. But. But I'm not getting involved in any legal disputes of that. Thank you for your donation there. Appreciate it. JFDFW any Epstein ties to the Bilderberg Group? They never allowed to public record what's going on in there. Well, I Think. In fact, we talked about. I think we talked about the Bilderberg Group and some of the connections with some of the members of the Bilderberg Group specifically. In fact, we did an interview today separately with Derek Brose just on that very question. But there are definitely ties to that, for sure. All right, let's see. Prep Invest. Thanks. My God, I feel bad for her. Yeah, I feel bad for her kids. If they ever lie, she's going to already be 50 steps ahead of them before they can even speak. And these bots are so annoying. In the chat, she says in these bots. Yeah, we get a lot of bots. Anytime we've got people like Whitney Webb on or people that are going to call out these, like, Israeli connections with all this research, you're going to get the bots, the bot armies attack immediately. That's what's going to happen. Unfortunately, they paid. It's cheap and it's effective, you know, thank you. Flaglanio says, thank you, Whitney Webb. We love you and so grateful. Same to Redacted and Snowy says, I heard about the fires in Chile and Argentina. Was hoping that Whitney Webb and her family were safe and sound. Indeed. Thank you, gtb. See here. You guys have any questions, thoughts? Philip, David Grimm. Christy says I missed the first 30 minutes. Is Whitney back in the States? No, she's in Chile. She lives in Chile. They are deleting literally every comment about a certain region. Is that what happens? Do those get, like, deleted, David?

[C]

Yeah, we don't. I don't know if they just hold them or what. Like, we just never know because sometimes, like, we don't even see them.

[A]

Oh, on YouTube. Yeah, yeah, yeah. YouTube blocks, like, so many comments. So like YouTube auto, like, auto moderates comments. So if you're like, redacted is censoring my comments? No, YouTube is censoring your comments. Rumble does not. So I think you can, you can post things on Rumble. I don't have no problem with it there. I don't think they censor anything, but maybe, maybe they do. I don't know.

[C]

Yeah, not. Not that I know of.

[A]

Let's see. Thank you. Longmeadow says. Thank you, Redacted crew. Fantastic conversation today with Whitney Webb. Appreciate that. The 7k army literally raiding the entire show today. It happens again. Anytime we do stories on Israel or we talk about the Epstein Israel connection. Verifiable, you know, verifiable facts and emails, we'll get flooded with bots like, what,

[C]

What a better way to show you're not involved than Staying out of it,

[A]

you know, like, Mossad has nothing better to do. Like, leave us the fuck alone. Okay, Uncia. Like, shut the fuck up. Oh, man, that's amazing. Maybe they didn't like me telling the truth about what was. What's about to happen with the Iran war that's probably going to start on March 1st. By the way, I just spoke to a military source who says that the USS Abraham Lincoln has now been extended. It's been like one of the longest deployments on record. They were supposed to already come home. They've already been extended twice now, a third time. And with the USS Gerald Ford, two carrier battalion groups now in position, and they're being told that they're not coming back, so they're being held there. So they just got word that they're being extended again. The USS Abraham Lincoln. So, getting ready for this March 1st, I'm hearing from military sources that March 1st, in alignment with the Jewish holiday, is when this is going to happen in against Iran. So they have to get all of their. They have to get all of their bots and social media together. That's why lesbian Lindsey Graham was over there, you know, laying the groundwork for that. Of course, Jackrabbit says, yeah, it's redacted censoring on Rumble. And don't say they aren't. They have censored me 10,000 times.

[C]

Wow. I mean, we do censor links, but that's because.

[A]

So, Jackrabbit, are you posting links? We do not allow links because links can be spam and then people click on them and they can get their accounts phished and hacked. Or if you say anything negative about my wife, then I'll, I'll. We will. We will block you.

[C]

Yeah. Or if you're outright, like, you know, saying racist, like really, really bad things, like, it's. We. We have a very long fuse.

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Yes. So. So, Jackrabbit, if you. If you literally have gone over that, then you. You maybe need to check yourself. Jackrabbit.

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Yeah, we trust our mods.

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Yeah. Portuguese news says it's this weekend. The attack on Iran. Now the Portuguese news. I lived in Portugal for five years and the Portuguese news is basically state media. So it could be, you know, it could be. It could be like a distraction from what's really about to happen, which is like, next weekend. Thank you. Chili pepper. Great work. Have to use characters even in a super chat to get a comment through. I know. We get. Well, we get thousands of comments. It's hard for us to even click on Them and put them on the screen here. Okay, Chris Carpeo. So, Christy Carpeo. So that story that was going around yesterday with Tucker was not true. The reporter who initially, like, wrote that story was wrong. I confirmed that that was wrong. So this idea that he, that Tucker was detained in Israel and, and held against his will was not right. Was not correct.

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And surely they took that story down or, or added an edit right to, you know, I don't think so.

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So, yeah, Tucker and his whole team were held in all of this. And no, that's not true. All they did, it was just, they questioned, they just questioned him like, why are you here? And basically were like a little bit of a pain in the ass. But he wasn't detained. The reporter who wrote the story was basically was wrong. So just to set the record straight on that story, Talk to Geologist Sean will say take take two. Take two. Geologist Sean will say when. Okay. Don't know quite, Lawrence. I don't understand that one, but thank you.

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I think it's supposed to be talk,

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but your wife, Clayton, is extremely lovely and we love her when she pulls you up. Bless you, you both and your team. Thank you so much. I know people get threatened by smart women sometimes. That's a, It's okay when a man is like, smart, but like, when, when somebody like Whitney Webb or like my wife, like, yeah, I mean, I, I, I got terrified and peed myself about four times while she was talking. What specifically stood out to you? Whitney's comments. Like, she's just so freaking sharp, man. Like, I, I always, I always appreciate any guest we have on that can just like, like the amount of, of connections they have in their head. And I guess it's like they can just run down it just like rapid fire. Yeah, it just, it's just always like, I'm always impressed by the guests that can do that.

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It's a good thing you wear Depends, Philip.

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Well, not always. It just, you know, depends.

[C]

I see what you did there.

[A]

Someone asked, has Tucker commented on that story? No, he commented to me personally, but I'm not, I will not tell tales at a school. Like, beyond what, beyond what I just said. I'm not gonna, I don't, I won't share personal conversations about what happened, but I don't believe he's commented on it. I think he's one thing to know about Tucker. Like, he is not a fan of stories about him. Like when, like, he does not want, like, the story was about. He's interviewing somebody in Israel. Right. Like, that's the story. Not like what happened to me, like

[C]

me, me, me, me, me.

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You know, he doesn't do. He doesn't talk. He doesn't talk about stuff like that really ever. Unless he's like questioned about it or someone interviews him and asks him about it. So he's not going to come out

[C]

and

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he's not going to, you know, talk about it. Yeah. The Tucker story was on RT briefly and then it disappeared. Yeah. Because again, the story was fake. So whoever initially wrote that story was wrong. Wrong. Someone says Tucker's. Tucker's not going to talk about it because he's. Controlled opposition. Okay, that's my favorite. Controlled opposition. Okay. Controlled by. Controlled by who? That's hilarious. Sharp as a blade. That Whitney went. Whitney has insane memory bank. Yes, she does.

[C]

Yeah.

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Her knowledge is insane. Smart woman and artful women both exist in this world. That's right. Indeed. We'll take a few more of your super chats here if you get them in here in a second. Gonna tell you about our friends over at Connect Invest, though, real quick. Is your money actually working for you or you just is it sitting there doing absolutely nothing? Because if you've been parking cash in a savings account or a cd, hoping that it's going to grow now that the US dollar is being devalued, you already know the truth. It's not going to move the needle at all. And if you try to ride out the stock market, you're basically strapping your future to a roller coaster. There is a smarter option, and it's one that thousands of everyday investors are already using to grow their wealth without volatility, without complicated real estate deals, and without needing a ton of money to start. It's called Connect Investors. And the way to sign up. Yeah, all you need to do, you can start with as little as $500 in your account. Just go to connect invest.com. excuse me. Just go to redacted.inc invest right now. That's redacted.inc invest. We've got a special landing page right there. And if you sign up today, you'll get a $50 bonus in your account. So let me explain how this works. You can, with Connect Invest, you can invest in real estate backed notes. Now, all of my children, we all have accounts set up for my children in their IRAs. You can do it in your IRA as well, in a self directed IRA. So every one of my children, including myself and my wife, we all use this. And what it'll do is you can earn fixed, predictable income up to 9% annually. Nine percent returns? Yes. And you can start with as little as $500 in your account. So again, my kids have some IRA money. Each of their IRAs are different, and we have them invested using Connect Invest to earn up to 9% annual returns. Now, the best part is it's real estate short notes. And you can pick the length of the short note. So you want to do just like six months. Basically, you'll tie your money up for six months and then you know, you can reinvest it after the six months or whatever you want to do 12 months or 24 months. So 6, 12 and 24 months with 9% returns. So like, if you've got some money sitting in one of those crappy savings accounts with your bank and it's like earning.001% or something ridiculous again, you can open up an account with as little as $500. Just test it like you're like, I don't know if I'd have trust Clayton in this. Well, then test it. Test it with 500 bucks and see what your returns are after six months. I'm telling you, everyone on my team, everyone on our redacted invest team, as an investor and in my entire family, so I wouldn't put my kids through it if I didn't believe in it. Redacted.inc invest. You can start investing in real estate short notes. This is projects like residential real estate projects, commercial real estate projects. This is a real fund. Okay? And that's something I've been doing for years. So great returns, 9% return and start today. Redacted.inc/invest. Give it a try. And when you sign up using that Link, you get 50 bucks in your account as a bonus. So give it a shot today. I know you will thank me later. Trust me, it's really, really good. Let's see. All right, let's see. Zach, here's a super chat. Thank you, Zach. Rose as you should look into the connection between sulfuric acid found in Steve Bannon's hot tub and 2017 and the sulfuric acid ordered by Epstein after his indictment. What? I've not heard that story. Steve. Steve Bannon's hot tub. Can you imagine how disgusting that would be? If there's a hot tub you don't want to be in. It's Steve Bannon's hot tub, that's for sure.

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Wonder if that's where the joker came from.

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Oh, man, I miss Those old redacted 20 minute openings with those very Whitney Web, like filled with Facts that many people still don't know. Yeah, we had to update it because we had that, our normal show open. Like, if you watch us live, we have a show open so people can kind of gather up in the chat room and everything like that. And the old one we had for years, you know, and it was time to. It was time to do a refresher and add new ones. And we're going to be updating it from time to time. Grim. Who does it is going to be updating it with new. New stuff in there, new blood to kind of keep it fresh for people. So. I like the new one a lot, though. Money. Greg says money, Tucker is controlled by money. It's easy to prove. You can pull up videos where he said the exact opposite. Okay.

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I think it's like, no, I think you have to understand, like, people are on journeys so they might say something six years ago that they don't believe at all today. Like, people have to have the. You have to give them the grace to. To change and realize things.

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Yeah, well, I don't always like being controlled by money. I mean, as long as I've known him, that has been. He's always admitted he's just terrible with money. He just would, like, he'll just like, buy everyone Starbucks. Like, when I worked with him on Fox and Friends, he would just buy. Every morning the entire crew is like, here, take my credit card and just go buy everyone. He never. He didn't. He was never really concerned with money at all. He admits. Like, when he was at MSNBC and, like, leaving, he almost went bankrupt. Like, he literally. He ran out of money. He, like, just went almost totally bankrupt. So I don't know that he's like. I've never known him to, like, be motivated by money at all, but maybe, you know something? I don't, I don't know. I've known.

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He doesn't even watch tv. That shocked me.

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Like, he doesn't even own a television. I've been to his house. I've been to his house. He has no freaking television. So, like, I don't know, like, he spends his time fishing and hunting. Like, he's not really. Anyway, but that's, you know, so when people say these things out of turn, like, oh, how do you, like, prove that? You know, it's like, he's. You're an anti Semite. It's like, well, okay, prove that he's an anti. You know, I don't know. I just. Anyway. But you know, a lot of bots, and trust me, Obviously, they. I don't know if you heard the former Israeli, what's his name the other day or just yesterday came out where he said, basically, we have to destroy Tucker Carlson. That young people under 30 are really influenced by Tucker Carlson, and we have to basically destroy him. Like, that's from an Israel. Like the mouth of an Israeli official, an American journalist. Like, you have to destroy. Okay. So again, I'm not surprised. Like, when we do a show or talk about Tucker, you're going to get flooded with people that are. Have all this fake, like, Laura Loomer information that don't know what they're talking about. So it's not surprising to me at all.

[C]

Or if you still trust people like Mark Living and people like that.

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Yeah, I mean, you have to understand Tucker is a Christian, like a devout Christian, not a Christian Zionist, not like one of those, like, fake Christians who believes in like a Scofield Bible. Like, he's a, like a real Christian. So when someone says Craig in the chat says Tucker deeply distrusted Muslims until he visited a bunch of rich Muslims, apparently Tucker read a different Quran. When did he.

[C]

I mean, if you read the Quran versus the Bible, the. The Bible has a lot more violence in it than the Quran. I mean, like, it's like it's a book.

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Well, also, Tucker was actually really aligned with like, a lot of neocons back in the day. He supported the Iraq war against Muslims. Like, he was a full on, like, neocon, writing articles about it, really supportive of it. And then he went to Iraq

[C]

and

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saw death and destruction and completely changed his tune on it. And he, he openly admits one of his greatest, one of his greatest mistakes in life was supporting the Iraq war and supporting like, the assassination and killing of millions of Muslims. So people can change. Like, I'm not speaking for him. You know, he can do interviews and talk about his own beliefs, but I

[C]

don't know,

[A]

he just did a whole speech yesterday, he just did a whole video yesterday on Christians and he, he. The whole first, like 10 minutes of the video was all about how as Christians were called upon to never hate anyone, regardless of race, creed, anything, Jews, Muslims. So he spent like the first 10 minutes, like, talking about how that should we should be called upon to never to never hate anybody. So I don't know, it was an interesting interview last night that he did. And then he also just did that interview with Huckabee. So we will see.

[C]

I can't wait for that. I hope it's. I hope it's Ted Cruz esque oh, man.

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The thing is, though, I mean, I've known Huckabee for years. I've interviewed him hundreds of times. And he's an incredibly gracious person, you know, incredibly kind. He's always believed, though. Like, I don't know, he has this weird, like, Christian Zionist approach to life where even when he was going to Israel, he would come back from Israel. When I was, when I was interviewing, he brought me, like, he brought me a yarmulke as a gift. He brought me cufflinks from Israel. Like, okay, thank you. I never wore the yarmulke. I mean, I don't, you know, but, like, this is like, not a new position for him, you know, under the Trump administration. This ambassador, like, he, he really believed in this, like, Christian Zionist, like, Schofield Bible, you know, God's chosen people storyline. This, like, fake storyline. So anyway, it's gonna be an interesting, it's gonna be an interesting theological discussion, you know. All right, I think any other Fox fired who secure signal Fox fired Tucker. Yeah, There's a couple of. I mean, I know some stuff I probably won't really talk about. Although I think one of the reasons that Fox fired Tucker is because of Tucker having Trump on his show. And the powers that be, Rupert Murdoch, I mean, they hated Trump. They absolutely did not want him on his show, did not want him to become President of the United States. And when Tucker had him on his show, he got phone calls from the executives and Rupert Murdoch, they were furious about it. That's one big reason. That's one huge reason, actually. Kyle says when are you gonna, when are you going to go? Sorry, I can't click on this thing. Kyle. Fear the haggis says, Clayton, when are you going to go on to catch up with Smash, JT and talk games? Has he got back to you yet? Yet? Yeah, we were communicating through, through DMS a while ago and that kind of just fell through. I don't know why we just, we just didn't catch up further. But I would love to. I'd be thrilled to talk games with him for sure. What is going on?

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I don't know that.

[A]

Yeah, Any other

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voice is not recognized.

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Yeah, that's right. Where is the. Thank you, Maria Torres. Appreciate that. Really appreciate that. Thank you guys for spreading the truth. I appreciate that. Stop smoking the dope. Ant Man Channel. Thank you. Do you think Ugly Truth says you think the DOJ is going to do anything now that we're seeing other countries move on this? I, I, I who, I mean, are you gonna, gonna Bring Les Wexner in there. I doubt it. Doesn't seem like they are. Doesn't seem like they're going to for whatever reason. And any of these people, I don't think they're going to see any prosecutions. I mean, I doubt it, unfortunately. Unless there's like some sort of aids and assistance, you know, people that worked on the crew that were complicit.

[C]

Maybe if Maxwell's not going to be, you know, like, nothing's going to go beyond what's going on with her now, her sweetheart deal. I mean, you know, none of these other people are gonna Seeing jail time.

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Someone in the chat says, didn't Tucker just. Just to do an interview about jihad and the invasion of Muslims into the. Man, these things fly by so fast. I can't get them. I missed it. Maybe. Maybe I did. I missed that interview about the invasion of Muslims in the United States. Old fashioned by choices. Clayton, look up what Mormons believe about them being Israelites. That's what Glenn Beck has been taught. He's a Mormon. Have John Delian on Mormon stories on. On the show. Interesting

[C]

Mormon. He seems more like a Zionist. Are Mormons Zionist? I mean, I didn't. I don't know.

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I don't know. I mean, Mormons are born out of what. What's his name? Joseph.

[C]

Joseph Smith.

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Joseph Smith finding what the, like the

[C]

whole tiles and a hat.

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Fake. Fake story out of Albany, New York or whatever. He found like gold plates in a hat up in a. Up in the mountains. And then when he was asked to like, like, produce them, he's like, no, but like, people are like, what are the ti. Like, what are the. What do the gold plates say? And he's like, it says I can have as many women as I want. People like, oh, okay. So now you have the breakoff, of course, of the. The fundamentalists and. And the lds, you know, and all of that. So, yeah, it's very interesting. But I love new religions that are just like created like a few hundred years ago, you know, just like I just found something in the hills. And then like the Scofield, you know, Scofield Bible written like in the early 1900s. I was literally talking to a Christian today, and he said, and he said, I grew up in a family that was like, believed that like, you know, we had to do everything we could to support Israel. And he's like, thank God I broke free of that once I started educating myself on it. He's like, it was a revelation. I was like, yeah, so you guys grew up kind of on the Scofield Bible. He's like, oh, yeah. And then once you realize that Scofield was a total con artist, he was saying. And I was like, wow, not everyone breaks free of that. Like, go to Texas. Like, everyone believes in the Scofield Bible. Like, this, like, con artist, womanizing freak in the early 1900s and, like, funded by Zionists before Israel was even created. Like, it was brilliant propaganda. But people are so cheap. They'll fall for this. It's amazing.

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Well, I think about L. Ron Hubbard in Scientology. That's another one.

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Like, oh, that's another one. Yeah, man. That's crazy. Oh, man, the golden plates. That's right. Jason. Jason says, oh, I missed it. Ant man channels Clayton. Get Tucker on. Ask him if he circled the black cube and Mecca. Don't forget what they did to Haiti. Mormons own all of Las Vegas now. Not the Italian. Do they? That's weird because, like, Mormons don't believe in drinking, like, caffeine, alcohol, like, they own sins.

[C]

I would assume gambling is probably on that list somewhere.

[A]

I think so, too. It's funny, I. There's years. Years ago, I had a co worker, a bunch of. A bunch of co workers, and I all went out for coffee and, like, the way the server was, like, asked one of the Mormon kids is like, do you. Do you want some coffee? And she just runs off this list. I can't have caffeine. I can't have blah, blah, blah. This starts listening all these things off. I just look at her. It's like, is that no or what? You know, like, you can just say, no. No, thank you, even. Yeah. We don't need to go into your whole, like, your whole doctrine and don't. Like, what. What's the whole thing with the underwear, too? Like, I love that. That's.

[C]

Yeah, the white T shirt. Yeah.

[A]

I'm always fascinated about the religions that, like, do all these random things to get around. Like, their doctrine, like, isn't like, Orthodox Jews. They can't. They're not allowed to turn on lights. Right. On the weekends or something.

[C]

I know. There's something about. They're not allowed to leave their home. So they tie ropes to each other's homes and hold the rope as they're walking to another home. So that's technically like. Like, you know what? We'll show you, God.

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Yeah, we got you, God. I'm going to tie a rope to my front door. I'm going to tie it to the door of the other house. And then after sunset or Whatever. Then I can hold the rope and I'm still technically in my house. Okay. I love this. I love that kind of stuff. It's my favorite. Or the. Yeah, like you're not allowed to turn on lights. So they have like special, special lights that like, are like. You pull like you like lift up the top of it, but it's. You're not turning it on. You're just like basically covering it up. So it's like, like you would do like a server would bring like a food plate out with like a hot. You know. Here you go. Here's your creme brulee. Creme brulee. You know, so we leave the light on. We just cover it up. Oh, so you're not technically turning it on. We got you. God, we tricked you again. It's so funny.

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Oh, God.

[A]

I love. I love religion. So great. Someone says we have a typo in our title. Do we? Prince Andrew arrested. Israel controlled Epstein Security. Oh, Price Andrew. Shoot. Yeah. Could we change the title of our show? Said a Price Andrew. Damn. I was probably typing too quickly and didn't check it. I had like people in the house and I was dealing with all that. So sorry about that.

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Grim, can you, can you handle? I'll do YouTube, Grim, if you can handle.

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I'm on YouTube right now. Oh, okay. It's fixed. Okay, thank you. I don't know what they're talking about. It says Prince Andrew right there. Yeah, how did you guys get that wrong? All right, everyone, I gotta run. I gotta make some dinner for the kiddos and it's gonna be busy Thursday. Thursday night. So thank you guys so much for joining us. Really appreciate it. We'll be back here on. We got lots of great content for you this weekend. A lot of deep dive interviews. Some pretty big stories actually that you're not going to want to miss. I think one of them is going to be a very big deal at the Pentagon, let me just say. And it's going to be a pretty shocking story. We're going to release that story. We're just waiting. We're just waiting on word from our source on that before we can release that interview. But I think it will be pretty eye opening. So thank you guys for subscribing to the channel. Turn on the little bell notification so you'd be notified when we release that video and that interview and. And have a great weekend, everyone. We'll see you back here Monday.

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