Natalie Morris (2:44)

We're also going to talk about the new spending bill. It makes me want to punch things. It's really upsetting. The most upsetting part, Clayton, I'm going to just give you the lead punch, is that everything that they fought over last government shutdown were just capitulated in this one. Like, let's just do it. So what the hell was that all about? People who didn't get paid, who were furloughed, now it's all in there permanently, at least through the end of the year. So it's a big middle finger to every American worker and taxpayer. And we're going to go over that. We're also going to talk about, hey, President Trump says there is now a foundation in place for Greenland. NATO gave it to us. NATO doesn't have authority to do it.

Clayton Morris (3:23)

But not so fast.

Colonel Rob Manus (3:24)

That's cool.

Clayton Morris (3:25)

But not so fast because Denmark just a few minutes ago said not, you know, overall, our dead bodies. We're not budging at all on this. Right. You're not just gonna take our country.

Natalie Morris (3:33)

But why is NATO even involved? They don't own Greenland. So Margaret just showed up as if it were his. He's a pimp now. What the hell? And also we're gonna talk about this new fight over Christian Zionism because this group of Christian leaders has issued a rare rebuke of Christian Zionism that really upset Mike Huckabee. He does politics through his religion. He says this is the only way to Christian. So we're gonna talk to Father Robinson about that as well.

Clayton Morris (4:01)

Yeah, we're gonna get to all of that today. Thank you guys for subscribing to the show and being a part of our podcast here. We have a daily newsletter as well, so thank you for subscribing to that. It publishes first thing in the morning. If you just go to redacted.inc put in your email address. You will receive that email and it's a great way to start your morning. About five or six of the big stories of the day. You can read it in about 5 or 10 minutes. Again, redacted.inc is the place to go to sign up for that newsletter.

Natalie Morris (4:27)

And hey, if you're watching us on Rumble, we really appreciate it. We want to tell you that Rumble is an ad free distraction, free platform and it is a free speech platform. Rumble has never punished us for any content that they disagreed with. We can't say that about other platforms. You know who you are and that's why we are so proud to be there. And if you become a Rumble Premium member, you can get exclusive access not just to Redacted, but our other friendly shows such as Crowder's Mug Club, Tim Pool's Tim Cast, and a lineup of other voices that are not afraid to think differently. Glenn Greenwald comes to mind. Russell Brand, other again, like minded shows. Jimmy Dore Rumble Premium is how you support platforms like ours that are built on genuinely free speech. Not just talking about it, but saying things that are scary to say. It's a place where we can do that. So if you would please check out how to support them by going to rumble.com, that's/premium, slash redacted. You get 10% off annually and or monthly for Rumble Premium and you can join the movement. It's rumble.com/premium, slash redacted. Well, Congress has unveiled another bloated piece of shit that is a spending bill. And guess what? It was put forward by both parties. So that whole ruse where they pretend to fight over whether or not American workers can get paid, that's not going to happen this time because they all got their priorities. It's a big spending package that is a middle finger to every American taxpayer. Here's the bill I linked to it in the newsletter this morning. It's over a thousand pages and IT totals over $1.7 trillion in funding. Now this is not just let's keep the lights on kind of funding. This is let's keep the lights on and more. And you know, they always sneak in things that would never pass a single vote in these spending packages. This time was no different. And again, this was put forward by both parties, which means they're not going to fight about it. They both already agreed. And both sides are just writing a blank check. They're just spending like drunken sailors. Now here's a real kick in the pants that I said makes me want to just punch things. Remember the whole healthcare eligibility bit that they fought over last year when we had the longest government shutdown in history where Republicans are saying we need more eligibility checks to just pay people into Medicare and Democrats are saying, absolutely not. We want everyone in Medicare. We just want it. And they fought over that for weeks and weeks. People didn't get paid. Well, they're not gonna fight over that this time because those eligibility requirements have been expanded and that's permanent. Now take a look here. This is where the fight just disappeared. Page 772 of the bill, it's called healthcare extenders.

Clayton Morris (7:19)

That's all I got to. I got to about 720 and I fell asleep.

Natalie Morris (7:23)

Oh, yeah, I guess I got farther than you. Well, these temporary pandemic expansions in health and welfare programs are now baked in as per. Is a permanent cost for taxpayers. So someone may not be. May not be sick, maybe willing and able to work. Well, not willing able to work an able bodied person. But they'll still get Medicare because we're expanding all eligibility. We're just doing it. It's so that hard fought battle from last time, that was all a charade, a ruse. Theater. So fun, right? So middle finger to all of them over this. Now here's another kick in the pants. Again, not just kick, keep the lights on. But also they're buried several hundred pages deep is something Congress also considers non negotiable, which is money for Israel. On page 101 of 1059, you find provisions allocating hundreds of millions of dollars for Israeli missile defense programs, including the Iron Dome and other joint US Israel systems. Once again, Congress has structured things so that funding the US Government is linked to funding a foreign country's defense system. I don't think there's any other way to see it. They sold us down the road on this one after pretending play fighting last year. If you're not pissed, you're not awake. I don't know what to do with you, but come over my house and I will get you pissed. And we'll read this together. Joining us to discuss is Daniel McAdams from the Ron Paul Institute. Thank you for joining us. You look pissed. That was a scowl if I ever saw one, and rightly so.

Clayton Morris (9:00)

Don't insult our guests out of the gate like that.

Natalie Morris (9:03)

Well, it's appropriate. I mean, do you want to. Okay. Do you want to give us a facial expression for how you feel about the spending bill?

Clayton Morris (9:11)

Okay, see, yeah, that's better.

Natalie Morris (9:14)

Why don't you put that into words? I'll stop talking.

Daniel McAdams (9:18)

Well, the funny thing about the emergency Covid thing, as Milton Friedman is reported to have said, there's nothing so permanent as a temporary government program. So there you have it. I mean, it almost makes you think that the whole November brew.

Clayton Morris (9:31)

Aha.

Daniel McAdams (9:31)

The longest shutdown in History was just a tee up for what they want to do anyway, which is to put a bunch of crap in the next one and say, well, don't make us do this again. I mean, we're a country held hostage. I mean, you teach it up perfectly, Natalie, because we're facing a massive ice storm. Our infrastructure is total crap. You know, it's falling apart everywhere. Not that we want the federal government to be in control of it, but nevertheless, that extra $4 billion that we're sending to Israel on top of what we normally send them. Oh, well, that probably could have gone a long way to keep us from freezing ourselves to death, especially when, of course, we're sending it to a very wealthy country. So, yeah, that's what they do. They spend. They don't care. You know, that's how. That's why. Actually, there was a. There was a Gallup poll that came out this past week saying that the younger generation, for the. The largest percentage in history, despise both political parties. And I think we're seeing why that's true here. They hate both parties.

Clayton Morris (10:23)

It's being, of course, run by the Uni Party, and that's what they want. They want us to be sort of bifurcated, set up in these little fiefdoms where we're fighting, you know, right against left, left against right. And really, we always sort of fight over the culture war stuff, the abortion stuff, that kind of. Right, but the LGBTQ painting rainbow flags on crosswalks, things like that. Right, but really, at the end of the day, they are in lockstep. The uniparty is in lockstep on all of this stuff. The size of government never shrinks. That's the old joke, right? It never shrinks. And we are heading for a disaster. I mean, you and of course, Dr. Paul have been covering what's happening to the US dollar. This is not a joke.

Daniel McAdams (11:04)

Yeah, when you have the combination of prolific spending and also an aggressive foreign policy, then you have countries running for shelter from the dollar. And we're seeing that now. We're seeing even in Davos during these meetings this past couple of days where Canada said, we're out of here, dudes. We want it. We want to deal with China. At least they don't try to tell us what to do. I mean, that's what happens, you know, and it's. It's funny, but it's not funny. But, you know, there's nothing like a must pass bill to get everyone to put all the junk they want into it, you know, all the pet projects, you know, the Israel spending is bad because it emboldens them to do things they shouldn't do, like attack their neighbors constantly.

Colonel Rob Manus (11:46)

Right.

Daniel McAdams (11:46)

In fact, just as Netanyahu was being accepted on the board of peace, he was bombing the crap out of Lebanon again today. Out of a village in Lebanon today. So there you go, there you have it. So not only does it embolden them to do things they shouldn't be doing, and discouraging them from making peace from their neighbors would be good for their neighbors and for themselves, but it also was corporate welfare for very, very well connected and wealthy Americans in the military industrial complex. Everything you see here, I'm looking at the numbers. Natalie, on your, on your great post on X. Every one of these billions and billions of dollars is being transferred from hardworking people in the United States to very wealthy, well connected people in Washington D.C. and that's a massive ripoff for all of us.

Natalie Morris (12:28)

You know, when I opened the bill, the first thing I did, control F, I searched for Ukraine and Israel. I just want to go straight to it. What's going out. Right. And this bill actually doesn't have money for Ukraine. And now, you know, Scott Besant this week is saying Europe has got to finish paying for this. We're pretty much done, but there's still ways we're funneling money through contractors. It's just not in this spending bill.

Father Robinson (12:51)

Right.

Clayton Morris (12:51)

It's all hidden.

Natalie Morris (12:52)

Right. And so I mean, can we make any kind of victory lap that maybe we're done paying for, you know, Ukraine University?

Daniel McAdams (13:00)

No, I would, I would, I would not be surprised to find it somewhere. And there's a lot of stuff hidden in this, you know, in the state appropriations part. And I haven't read all 85 million pages of it, I'll be honest with you. But I did read a couple of things.

Natalie Morris (13:11)

As long as we're confessing in the.

Daniel McAdams (13:13)

State, yes, but in the states, sorry, in the state of probes part, they kept all the money for the National Endowment for Democracy. You know, this is all the work that we were told the DOGE was doing. They're cutting all this crap, you know, and there was, you know, the Congressman Clifton from Arizona put in a, an amendment to cut the money, $315 million for Ned and it was defeated because 80 some Republicans crossed over and voted to keep it. And the thing that bothers me about the right and left is they frame this as if, oh, Ned is this leftist. No. Woke outfit. No, the ned, as we know, was a primary source of training and funding for these two NGOs that were behind the attempted overthrow of the Iranian government. The most violent as the more comes out that the thugs that were going in there and just killing people willy nilly. This is what NED does. It's not right or left. It's the regime, it's the deep state, it's the UNIT party and that's what it's all about. And they kept the money. They can't even cut this kind of money.

Clayton Morris (14:20)

It's unbelievable. I mean it's like. I mean if Epstein. I wouldn't be surprised if Epstein's receiving money in the bill somehow.

Daniel McAdams (14:26)

They're just.

Clayton Morris (14:29)

They can't stop them themselves.

Father Robinson (14:30)

What happened?

David (14:32)

Is USAID back and USAID back and is. Is PBS getting their funding again? I mean what's right?

Clayton Morris (14:40)

Where did we go?

Natalie Morris (14:41)

I think we should point out the National Endowment was instrumental in this Venezuela military operation. We know this now at least so we are still Republicans are using it even as they pretend you're right that it's a leftist Reagan.

Daniel McAdams (14:55)

Sadly it was under Ronald Reagan. The neocons talked Ronald Reagan into creating the ned. They said we could do all the great things and promote democracy and we won't even have to put in the CIA. You know. And Reagan sadly is one of his big mistakes. One of his really huge mistakes is to allow the neocons to create an ad. But once you create it, it's an overt CIA and they can do all sorts of things. I mean they've been trying to overthrow the Venezuelan government since Hugo Chavez's days. You don't have to like Chavez or Maduro to say this is really. Why are we spending all this money doing it? It doesn't.

Father Robinson (15:25)

It.

Daniel McAdams (15:25)

It's really not an important thing for us.

Clayton Morris (15:27)

Well, and like when Philip just asked about usaid, we know that a lot of it's been funded full folded into the State Department. Right. Under Marco Rubio.

Daniel McAdams (15:36)

Exactly. Important.

Clayton Morris (15:37)

So that is now there like how much. How much are they still receiving? And then also Doge, like what is going on with Doge?

Daniel McAdams (15:45)

I mean aid may even be worse because now it's become Marco Rubio's little satchel that he can open up and. And send the money wherever he wants to a little bit for Cuba. Overthrowing Cuba.

Colonel Rob Manus (15:56)

This.

Daniel McAdams (15:56)

There's a. I suspect that there's a lot less oversight now that the thing called USAID is gone. And it's now under sort of my. Everything goes to Marco. If you notice that literally everything that comes up goes to Marco Rubio, he's got to run Venice. He's got to run this peace thing. He's got to run aid. I mean, the guy jokes yesterday that.

Natalie Morris (16:16)

Genius Marco Rubio finds out that he's J.D. vance's new nanny.

Clayton Morris (16:21)

Well, the memes. The memes are funny. It's him sitting on the couch, like, kind of defeated. And he's. Now, they always dress him up. Now he's got to run Greenland. So he's in a full, like, you know, parka.

Natalie Morris (16:30)

He's in Mary Poppins because he's going to be the nanny.

Clayton Morris (16:32)

Yeah, everything is folded under there. And you're right about this. So now we don't have, like, the boogeyman of usaid. It's just a name change. It's just now folded into the State Department budget, and we'll never know about it anymore.

Daniel McAdams (16:44)

Yeah, that's a problem. I mean, I, in the old days, I used to follow Ned really closely and all the things that they. And they used to be very good about reporting. But the thing is, people like investigators, like me back in the day were able to find these things. And so they would find ways to hide the reporting and make it more difficult. It is more difficult to find. But there are great researchers out there. Michael Tracy is one of them. I think he's the one that blew the whistle on this whole. Like, the two main sources of information for what was happening on the ground in Iran were suspiciously located within 10 miles of the CIA headquarters in Fairfax, Virginia. So, you know, I mean, there you have it. Something. Something in Iran was actually not in Iran. It's in Fairfax, Virginia. So, you know, that's how it works.

Clayton Morris (17:27)

Well, Daniel, we'll get you out of here on this because you just brought this up. I'm just curious on this Iran piece. Maybe you can speak to it. You know, we're hearing that what was uncovered with this whole operation was Mossad was basically hung out to dry, and this entire Mossad operation now in Iran has been basically exposed. It had been been years long in the works, and now it's been totally exposed. Trump sort of, as Scott Ritter said, basically backstabbed Netanyahu and basically got rid of Mossad. All part of this operation and money that we're talking about.

Daniel McAdams (18:01)

I wish that were the case. I can't imagine Trump and backstabbing Netanyahu in any way, shape or form. We certainly, we certainly helped them take care of the Kurds, though. The Iranians took care of the Kurds that were crossing over from Iraq. And I Mean, they were the muscle for this whole operation where the Kurds coming in from Iraq and they were slaughtered on the border. You know, but, you know, this was in terms of the, you know, the other muscle on the ground was a Mossad operation and they were using the starlink that was. That was smuggled in. And I mean, to his discredit. I mean, I'm a sort of a fan of Elon Musk, but I think it's a big mistake for him to get involved in these kinds of operations. And he was very much all in for this. I. My guess is he didn't fully understand what it was all about in the extreme violence that they were trying to use to overthrow the government of Iran. It was a mistake to get involved and do the bidding of CIA regime change operations. I think it kind of discredits your. Yourself, himself for doing that. But it may well be the case now. They may have been able to clean out a lot of these Mossad undercover agents. I mean, Iran is a massively huge country and it's got a lot of borders. I mean, we can't. We haven't been able to, at least till recently. One of Trump's triumphs is to help us guard our own borders. But it's very difficult when you've got enemies all around you.

Clayton Morris (19:15)

Well, the money continues to flow, Daniel, and they're doing a better job of trying to hide it from us. So. Well, you know, and you're the Pentagon. You have, what, seven straight audits that you fail, but you get a new trillion $1.5 trillion budget as a reward.

Natalie Morris (19:29)

But I think the lack of fight here tells us everything we need to know. They're not gonna fight. It's not major in the press. It's not a big. We're talking about other things. Like we just.

Clayton Morris (19:38)

Well, it's the midterms.

Natalie Morris (19:39)

We're not going to pay attention to it. Yeah, exactly.

Daniel McAdams (19:42)

Speaker Johnson. This is Speaker Johnson.

Father Robinson (19:44)

He's.

Daniel McAdams (19:45)

He's a deer in the headlines. He's. He's the worst speaker I can remember. I mean, he's terrible.

Natalie Morris (19:50)

Yeah, it's the bend over party. That's what it feels.

Clayton Morris (19:54)

The bend over unit party.

Natalie Morris (19:55)

The bend over unit party. Right. As opposed to what I floated recently is the it party, which is only anti war. You're invited to join my party.

Daniel McAdams (20:05)

Like I will join that one.

Natalie Morris (20:06)

I have no leadership at all. Just.

Daniel McAdams (20:08)

I need the bumper stickers for this.

Clayton Morris (20:10)

We're still, we're still workshopping the name. Might not, Might not play well in elementary Schools, but we're working on it. Daniel McAdams, great to see you as always, my friend. Thanks for your great analysis, as always. Thank you.

Natalie Morris (20:22)

I know I shouldn't swear.

Clayton Morris (20:23)

I apologize, but you got the dirtiest mouth. And I'm from Philly. Just, you know, can't believe it.

Natalie Morris (20:28)

Yes. God damn it.

Clayton Morris (20:29)

I just like. And we're, and we're, we're broadcast on live television, too. We're broadcast.

Natalie Morris (20:34)

Sorry.

Clayton Morris (20:35)

So say, say to all of our BeckTV viewers, I'm sorry.

Natalie Morris (20:37)

I apologize. I will wash my mouth. I got really upset about government spending. I'm sorry.

Father Robinson (20:42)

Go ahead, Phil.

David (20:44)

Well, I just, you know, like, every time we talk about something like this, and, like, I can't remember if it was Natalie or if Daniel, somebody said, well, you know, the money will continue to flow. And the thing is, if we're like $38 trillion in debt, where the hell is this flowing money coming from? I mean, it's just like, it just.

Clayton Morris (21:01)

Well, I mean, as Neel Kashkari from the Federal Reserve has openly admitted that the Fed has an infinite supply of money. His words. They can print it. So they will just print as much as they want. Of course, the wall will be. Once other countries stop accepting the fact that the United States just keeps printing money, and then they start to unload all of these treasury bonds, and then we have to buy them back. And that's when we have an enormous problem on our hands. Europe threatened that today, by the way, over this Greenland issue. Said, hey, you're going to do this. What we're going to do is just dump $8 trillion worth of US treasury bonds on the market.

David (21:39)

Yeah, I saw Denmark's pension fund. They sold all their, they're selling off their US Treasuries. So it's already starting.

Clayton Morris (21:47)

Well, in China in a big, big way. Yeah. I mean, so one of the largest holders is Japan. And so Japan is. We've been kind of bullying Japan to kind of hold on to these treasury bonds, but their economy is on the brink. So I don't, you know, we're, we're watching some craziness unfolding right now, so. All right, we got a lot more news to get to.

Natalie Morris (22:06)

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Clayton Morris (24:06)

Actually. Maybe they should coin that. Yeah, get their new up and running.

Natalie Morris (24:09)

Exactly right.

Clayton Morris (24:10)

Questioners. Sorry, I'm just saving something in our chat room here. Someone gave a good idea about a story and I'm like, yes, I want to look into that. So David, I'm sending it to you right now. All right, well, let me check my spectacles. You must have been using them because they're like cloudy.

Natalie Morris (24:25)

I was.

Commercial Narrator (24:26)

You were.

Natalie Morris (24:27)

Every time I'm busted.

Clayton Morris (24:28)

I caught you. Every time my glasses are like, like, look like they've been schmutzed on. It's because this one over here grabs them and borrows them.

Natalie Morris (24:35)

I did that, but I'm not lying about it.

Clayton Morris (24:38)

I'm glad I. I didn't even ask. I just.

Father Robinson (24:40)

Yeah.

Clayton Morris (24:40)

Glad you were honest about it.

Natalie Morris (24:42)

I'm an honest person. Makes me slightly unpleasant.

Clayton Morris (24:47)

Well, Trump used the Davos stage to put allies on notice once again. Back off of Greenland right now. It's ours. Or get hit with massive trade tariffs and tariff penalties, he calls it. And he, by the way, he called it a piece of ice. Watch.

Daniel McAdams (25:03)

So we want a piece of ice for world protection, and they won't give it.

Father Robinson (25:08)

We've never asked for anything else, and we could have kept that piece of land, and we didn't.

Daniel McAdams (25:16)

So they have a choice.

Father Robinson (25:19)

You can say yes, and we will be very appreciative, or you can say.

Clayton Morris (25:24)

No, and we will remember. Okay. Well, Greenland is already remembering. They've taken to the streets today. And, you know, it's got to be important if you're getting people out of your house in Greenland to take to the streets.

Father Robinson (25:39)

Yeah.

Clayton Morris (25:39)

And in protest, saying, hands off our country. So I don't know how many people live in Greenland, but a lot of them were outside today in protest after the President's speech. Then a short time after that, we learned from reports that Trump has struck a deal on Greenland and they have formed a framework of a future deal that. He posted this on Truth Social, clarifying that, based on a very productive meeting that I've had with Secretary General of NATO, Mart Ruta, we have formed the framework of a future deal with respect to Greenland and, in fact, the entire Arctic region. This solution, if consummated, will be a great one for the United States of America and all NATO nations. Based upon this understanding, I will not be imposing the tariffs that were scheduled to go in effect on February 1st.

Daniel McAdams (26:24)

So that threat, just to let you.

Natalie Morris (26:26)

Know, Clayton, that NATO doesn't own Greenland, it's not.

Clayton Morris (26:31)

Oh, really?

Natalie Morris (26:32)

Giveaway.

Clayton Morris (26:32)

Marc Ruta can't just, like, make a deal.

Natalie Morris (26:34)

No, I mean, I can give you the Met Gala. I'll do that.

Clayton Morris (26:39)

I don't want that.

Natalie Morris (26:40)

But I have no interest in the Met Gala, so that's. It's just interesting.

Clayton Morris (26:45)

Yeah.

David (26:45)

It also sounds to me like, in that. In that True Social post, it also sounds like maybe we've taken control of Canada as well. Because the Arctic region, I'm pretty sure there a major player in the Arctic region. So that's good.

Clayton Morris (26:57)

Well, Martin Carney, in response to that, today, Canadian Prime Minister said, we will invoke Article 5. We are going to support NATO and we will come to the protection of Denmark, the Kingdom of Denmark. So Canada is not backing down on this either, but it doesn't really matter. I mean, Denmark is also not backing down. They have said we will not budge an inch on giving up sovereignty. This was after this framework that President Trump said was in place. So I love how Denmark's, like, not a part of the conversation in any of this.

Natalie Morris (27:29)

Only military. It's two people who have no interest are deciding what happens to this third place.

Clayton Morris (27:36)

Well, another person who.

Father Robinson (27:38)

Go ahead, David.

Ralph Schoellhammer (27:39)

Well, I just wanted to say there's about 57,000 people in Greenland.

Colonel Rob Manus (27:42)

That's all.

Father Robinson (27:42)

Okay.

Natalie Morris (27:43)

Okay.

Clayton Morris (27:44)

Thank you for that. Well, also, President Putin came out and said, you know, she's kind of behind this idea. I'll just play a few seconds of this. Watch. So, I mean, that's even what Dr. Ogle Ravasi was talking about yesterday, is that, you know, he's basically kind of.

Natalie Morris (28:34)

Saying he's fine with it.

Clayton Morris (28:35)

Okay, all right.

Natalie Morris (28:37)

But I mean, she also made a great point. Have a referendum, give them at least the semblance of deciding for themselves. It's no that it's a joke that it's not even being discussed.

Commercial Narrator (28:48)

Yeah.

Clayton Morris (28:48)

Well, let's bring in Ralph Schohammer, academic researcher who follows Europe very close. Joins us now from, I believe is in Austria today. Oh, boy. Ralph, maybe you can help unpack. Unpack this hornet's nest. I mean, I mean, we're really. Trump did not hold back in his speech about Europe. He was really coming after Europe in a big, big way. You haven't given us anything. We give you everything. We fully support NATO. This is what we want. You better come to the table. You're gonna be spanked. Lots of tariffs. Your countries are gonna be in ruins. Help us unpack. What was the response from the European side on this?

Ralph Schoellhammer (29:29)

Well, I think you mentioned the stick part of his speech, but I think there was a lot of carrots as well. He mentioned his ancestry. Right. He said that he's mother was Scottish, that his father was German, that he wants to strong Europe, that he thinks there are mistakes being made in migration policy and energy policy. Right. Clayton, this is how we started our conversation. I think now, almost three years ago. I think there was a lot of good stuff in his speech. It was very Trumpian. I always find it a little bit mean to dish out on the Danes, because per capita, I know per capita is sometimes tricky, but per capita, more Danes died in Afghanistan than Americans, given the proportionality of the population. So this idea that what have the Danes ever done for us? Then he had this, in my opinion, funny line about if it wouldn't have been for the Americans. Everybody here would be speaking German. Well, in Davos and in Zurich, they speak German. This is like a French guy coming to the US and saying, if we wouldn't have supported you in the Revolutionary War, all of you guys would be speaking English today.

Natalie Morris (30:27)

Right? And then he says, oh, or a little bit of Japanese, because the Japanese did a little bit of a Holocaust too, which always gets on my nerves because it's, it's only the Jews that died in World War II. Not, not more Chinese.

Ralph Schoellhammer (30:40)

Okay, but, but, but overall I think it was that if, if, if you, if you try to separate the signal from the noise, I find it was very critical of the EU elites, if you will, but I think it was bullish on, on a Europe that, that finds its backbone and self confidence. The only problem I see, and this is something we saw unfold over the last couple of weeks, is that the whole Greenland, let's call it debate was a little bit of a damper on enthusiasm for Trump and the other way around among European right wingers and the right of center parties, which is a little bit sad because if you look at polls in Denmark at the moment, the right wing parties, who I think are ideologically very much in line with how we see the world and how the Trump administration sees the world, they are declining in the polls and the left wing is increasing because of this whole Greenland thing. So, I mean, right, there's an up and a downside to everything. But overall, I thought it was a good speech.

Clayton Morris (31:38)

Ultimately, this is not about. I know people keep it, it's about resources. But isn't it really about China and Russia and control of the Arctic?

Ralph Schoellhammer (31:49)

Well, there is an issue these days, and Redacted is of course an honorable exception to this rule. But there's very often this idea these days that whatever happens in the world has one cause thing X happens and it is because of Y. But there can be multiple causes. I think that resources do play a role. I think that the Northwestern Passage and new sea lanes that are opening up plays a role. I think the whole Golden Dome project, which Trump is serious about, plays a role, as you correctly mentioned, which, by the way, Danish intelligent reports themselves said in 2025 that increased Chinese and Russian activity in the Arctic plays a role. The geographical location of Greenland makes it interesting for satellite launches, for data operations, for data centers. The same is, by the way, true for Venezuela because it's closer to the equator. So I think there are many, many reasons why there is a strategic interest in Greenland. And one point that Putin was making. I mean, say whatever you want about Vladimir Putin, but he knows his history. 40%. I don't know how many Americans know this, but 40% of the current US territory was acquired via acquisition. It was Florida was bought from the Spanish. You had the Louisiana Purchase in 1803. You had pretty much at the point of a gun, you bought territory from Mexico in 1848. You bought the American Virgin Islands from Denmark in 1917. The argument there was, you either sell it to us or the Germans got to take it. So we have to take it first. So I think a lot of the stuff that Trump does that supposedly is outrageous is very much in line with 19th century American politics. And those who follow my commentary, I'm generally a fan of 19th century politics, so I have a soft spot for what Trump is doing.

Clayton Morris (33:37)

I would just say Democrats. Democrats built a whole memorial, massive memorial to Thomas Jefferson. Largest, largest land purchase in American history. The Louisiana Purchase doubles the size of the United States. It's heralded by Democrats as a great accomplishment by Thomas Jefferson. This would bring massive amounts of land into the United States fold.

Ralph Schoellhammer (33:59)

And of course, you had Alaska in 1867. And even then, there was already a conversation about potentially getting Greenland. I know in 1917, the contract with Denmark said that the United States will respect the authority of Denmark over Greenland. But international politics and diplomacy is complicated. Truman wanted to buy it in 1946. So there is a little bit of a precedence for all of this. And as we can see now, it looks like a deal will happen. Some people say this is, again, Taco Trump. I don't think that's fair. He's a negotiator. He goes out bombastically with lots of threats. And ultimately, I think very often he doesn't get the whole 100%. But if he gets 80% of what he initially wanted, I think that's still a success. As I always say, I think Donald Trump is everything his critics say he is, and he's everything he supporters say is. But I did like his speech in Davos. I think he was, you know, you know his rhetoric. You know how he is. But if you separate the signal from the noise, lots of the things he said were true. What he said about the UK Was true. What he said about migration was true. He explicitly said, I love that part. He said, In 2017, Germany produced more electricity than today. I mean, when did you ever hear an American president being aware of electricity production in Germany? I mean, this seems to be very well informed. It was Not a speech. There were the occasional platitudes, but overall it was a well informed speech. I said I liked it very much.

Natalie Morris (35:20)

Now, let's talk about the platitudes from European commissioners who are taking to the platform and saying F off Donald Trump. I just see that as like, it's like flies. They have no power. It's just right. It will get them some social media juice and nothing else. What do you make of those speaking of platitudes?

Ralph Schoellhammer (35:43)

Well, it is. I mean, I think it was a la Von de Lion who said Europe chooses the world and the world chooses Europe. Well, how about if Europe chooses its own people for a change? I mean, this is why so much that's happening in Europe is happening for that reason that because it's always the world. This is what bothers me. And I am a European, I live in Austria. But this bothers me so much. And we have discussed this many times. It's always about the world. Look at the climate policy. We have to save the world. We have to be a shining beacon when it comes to migration, human rights. No, you don't have to be that. First of all, you have to be there for your own people on the European level and then the nation states on the national level. And I think this is what, again with the American administration, I would do it slightly different, is that I think my communication strategy would be different than that that the Trump administration is pursuing. But policy wise, I think there's this misunderstanding. America first never meant America alone. But I think Donald Trump and his administration say quite clearly we want Europe as a partner, but currently you're too weak to be a partner. So either you get stronger so that we can be somewhat on a similar, of similar weight, or you have to make your peace with the fact that the United States will retreat and you'll be on your own. And I think that's a fairly fair message.

Clayton Morris (36:58)

Finally, Natalie brought up, well, David said there's 57,000 people live in Greenland. Natalie mentioned a referendum, I guess in some ways, like Crimea or the Donbas, people voting and saying, I want to become part of the Russian Federation overwhelmingly. Do you think that that's a smart move? Do you think, do you think there's any move from the Trump administration to hold a referendum asking the people of Greenland who do they want to become part of the United States?

Ralph Schoellhammer (37:26)

Listen, I mean, I hold no grudge against the people of Greenland. And I think the video we saw, I assume that all 50,000 of them were now out in the streets, but we have to be. We have to be surrealistic. And again, it depends on how much weight the Trump administration and the president themselves are giving to the whole Greenland issue. But there are many peoples in the world, and some of them much more numerous than 58,000, whose voices and desire for autonomy of their own state has been ignored. I mean, think about the Kurds. Think about people in wannabe autonomous regions in Spain. I don't know how a referendum in Puerto Rico would end these days. So, I mean, this is, unfortunately, the world we live in. Not every group of people gets their own state or gets their own form of autonomy or is under the kind of government or ruled by the kind of government they wish to be governed by. I mean, again, as I said, I hold no grudge against the people of Greenland. But at the end of the day, whatever a referendum would say, I don't think it would have a significant impact on the. On the large interests that are at stake. That being said, to be honest, if we look, as I just mentioned, the Kurds and other peoples in the world, if your options are living under, let's say, the rulership of Denmark or the United States, that's not such bad choices. I mean, again, there are people in this world, again, I can just say, again, the Kurds and others who have the options between worse and worse. And in the Greenland case, I think these are pretty good options to have.

Natalie Morris (38:50)

I think for me, what I'm enjoying is the catch 22 of these European leaders who are screaming about international sovereignty and, you know, things like that, globalism, Right? And they have spent the last two years helping Israel burn down Gaza and allow that. So they are in this sort of moral conundrum and just they're walking in circles. They don't know exactly what to do to maintain their moral authority. And it is, to use a German word, schadenfreude. For me, I am watching that.

Ralph Schoellhammer (39:23)

I mean, if you'll honor one thing, whether it's. It's Gaza or Greenland, the territory I care about most is Copenhagen. It's Vienna, it's Paris, it's Berlin. And this is the kind of territory particular to mass migration that we are losing. And so I find it absurd when Europeans talking about. And the Canadians, by the way, they say about defending every inch of Greenland, well, how about defending every inch of Copenhagen? I mean, there have been people, I've forgotten this. In 2005, there was a group of Danish cartoonists who published 12 marmot cartoons. Some of them have died in the meantime, but most of them had to live on a police protection land. Entire life in Copenhagen, because you have such a significant percentage of the population that's already Muslim that criticizing Islam, it's a life and death issue there. The same in the Netherlands, the same in Germany. So the territory I care about is much closer to home. So what's going on in Gaza? Sure, this was all horrible and tragic, but the future of Europe is not going to be decided in the Middle east, it's not going to be decided in Greenland. So I find it very odd that every territory, it's again, what I said before.

Father Robinson (40:25)

Right.

Ralph Schoellhammer (40:26)

All that matters, it seems, for the EU elites is the world. But the closer they get to home, the less it matters to them. So when Free Mertz talks about Greenland and you know, the Germans will stand with, you know, Greenland, how about standing with your own people for a change?

Clayton Morris (40:39)

Right, right, right. Bruges, you know, like Bruges is a shell of its former self. I mean, you've got, you know, you've got crime everywhere. It's, you know. Anyway, yeah, we could go on and on about this, but you're right. And final, just final, just I'll mention this. Trump was asked at a press conference afterwards, Emmanuel Macron had made that text message overture, hey, come to Paris, we'll have a meeting. And he said, I'm not going to go to Paris. Emmanuel is not going to be in power very much longer. So.

Ralph Schoellhammer (41:05)

And he has a point. I like the sunglasses that Macron was wearing. I don't know, maybe his wife, husband or whatever hit him again. I mean, we saw the video where he was slapped once. He might got slapped twice, but his approval ratings are around 15%. I mean, most of the European leaders currently are dead men and dead women walking. And if Trump gives it. This is the last point. This is the only thing I'm sad about the whole Greenland thing is that to some extent he re entrenched those elites that were on the way out because he puts the European right wingers, whom I support, in a little bit of a pickle. But hopefully this is going to blow over over the next couple of weeks.

Clayton Morris (41:43)

Ralph Schoellhammer, always great to see you. Host of the Hammer Time podcast. Check it out. One of the smartest people in Europe. I wish there were more people like you in Europe. Ralph, great to see you.

Ralph Schoellhammer (41:52)

Thank you. Thanks for having me.

Clayton Morris (41:53)

Our pleasure, as always. Thanks for coming on. I love Ralph. All right, we've got, we're going to talk about this ice, ice ageddon ice apocalypse, this massive storm and People like our next guest have been singing from the rooftops about this to get our grid fixed in the United States. And it's woefully, woefully underprepared for this and maybe even worse than what happened in, in Texas in 2021 when we had that whole collapse. So we're going to talk about that in moments. But first, when is the last time you woke up actually feeling rested? That's right. Well, when's the last time you looked in the mirror and recognized the guy staring back at you? If you're dragging through your days with no energy, zero motivation, well, guess what? Then you're not alone. It's not just a getting older thing. Blokes was built for men who are tired of feeling like a shadow of who they used to be and they want to get rid of that. Dad behind the brain fog, the fact that you'd rather sleep than spend time with your wife, that would never happen to me. These aren't character flaws. They're symptoms. And they're usually tied directly to your hormones. Every blokes Lab includes a 30 to 60 minute consultation with a licensed clinician who connects what you're feeling to what's actually happening in your body and helps you build a real plan to fix it. We're talking about trt, peptide therapy, NAD plus all sorts of different treatments that get to the root cause and help you feel like yourself again. Stronger, sharper, actually present. And when you start TRT with blokes, you can actually add ED or hair loss prescriptions for just $1 a month. All of it. It's time to start settling. So go to joyandbloaks.com redactednews and use the code redactednews to get 50% off your lab so you can figure out what's actually going on on inside of your body. 20% off all supplements. That's Jo I. Okay, that's how it's spelled. JoI. Joyandbloaks.com redacted news for 50% off your labs. 20% off all of your supplements. Start to feel like yourself again and get your edge back. Our thanks to Joy and blokes for supporting our show. All right, thanks to everyone for subscribing to the show. We really appreciate, appreciate it to the tens of thousands of you that are watching around the world on rumble, on YouTube, on X. Great to see everybody. We really, really appreciate it. All right, well, will we see a major grid collapse across a huge portion of the United States. All signs seem to be pointing to. Yes, a destructive, potentially catastrophic ice storm is forecast to impact the south, the south this weekend. Widespread ice will cripple travel, cause many major power powder, power outages and down to trees, power lines, everything. This is a rare high impact event as it's being called, potentially the worst in decades since what we saw in Texas back in, in 2021. Just take a look at the map here and you get a sense of what we're seeing where that orange is likely power outages, highly likely at this point with all of that ice that's going to descend upon that region. The National Weather Service says great swaths of heavy snow, sleet, treacherous freezing rain could begin on Friday across parts of the nation's midsection. Here is their latest, here is their latest message. They've now upgraded their forecast. Confidence is high that a significant storm will occur, but not on specific details of the storm track timing and precipitation amounts. But one thing is clear, according to Matt Randolph, that this is going to be devastating from an ice perspective. Watch. MATT randolph, I've been waiting to talk.

Matt Randolph (45:23)

About the storm that's coming this weekend because I didn't want to freak people out. And a lot of these forecasts never pan out, but this one is panning out. It looks like, yeah, everyone's in agreement now that the crazy forecast is actually happening. This is going to be one of those storms you probably remember for much, much of your life. Basically the whole more than the eastern half the United States is going to be below freezing. Most of that below zero they're calling for, you know, foot, foot and a half of snow all through here all the way to the mid Atlantic. And three inches of ice in this pink band right here. Three inches of ice is unbelievably catastrophic. That is worse than what Texas experienced in 2021. There's going to be loss of life anywhere there's three inches of ice. There's no power. There's not going to be a power line that's not on the ground when there's three inches of ice. And emergency services aren't going to be able to reach you because there's three inches of ice and then lingering.

Clayton Morris (46:19)

So what will happen, this is going to linger then for days. So these emergency service crews will not be able to get there. But the real heart of it is the grid. Colonel Rob Manus has been kind of preaching from the rooftops about this for years, really as an energy expert. And we wanted to bring colonel on the colonel on to talk about this. Colonel, maybe you can give Our audience, a little backstory about how, how you've been, like, warning about this for years from an energy perspective. And then I want to talk about how prepared we actually are.

Colonel Rob Manus (46:51)

Thanks for having me on, Clayton. Look, I've been warning about this, especially in regards to Texas, since I was a wing commander at Kirtland Air Force base in Albuquerque, New Mexico. In the winter of 2011, we had a devastating storm like what you're about to see here, and Texas was not able to generate enough natural gas for heat in its state. So they cut the pipeline off to states like New Mexico, which had a direct impact not only on. On the national security efforts that I was working on, but the 23,000 people that lived and worked on Kirtland Air Force Base, every major city in New Mexico. And I haven't seen anything that attempts to rectify that situation. So we have a natural gas capacity and delivery challenge that still exists in some form. I'm not sure exactly how bad it is now. I'm sure we've been working on it, but it still exists from the reporting that I've seen and who I've been listening to. And then there's electrical power generation. You know, folks, we have spent the last decade or more slowly destroying two things about our electrical power grid. It's called reliability and capacity. The ability to deliver the power to your home or whatever facility you're looking at. So you have to have a reliable capability to generate power. And by adding things like wind in too large a numbers, adding solar before it's technically capable of being reaching reliable state to help power the grid needs that we have today, and then decreasing reliability on nuclear power plants and also increasing our reliance on natural gas power generation, which, which hurts the natural gas delivery that's going to homes to run heaters in the same situation. So we have all of these situations that we have slowly destroyed this reliability and capacity issue with, and then layer that on the fact that every control over the grid system nationwide is digital, and there's a cybersecurity vulnerability to that. All you have to do is look back a few weeks at the attack on Venezuela and the President of the United States informing everybody, well, we shut all the power off, and these weapons systems and communication systems the government relied on can't operate without that power. So there's a vulnerability in what's called the SCADA system, which is the digital controls for all of the electrical grids, no matter who, what utility company or what government is operating it. All of those things exist. And that's what I'm concerned about. You know, when we look at a state the size of Texas, we don't have enough battery storage capability yet for the solar parts of the power system. In order to be able to make up for that, I think it's only about 14 gigawatts, and in a severely cold situation like this over a number of days, and it will take at least three days, probably closer to four to seven days for the ice parts of this forecast to clear out. I went through an ice storm when I was a young man and west Tennessee with my grandparents that had three inches of ice, and it took over a month for them to get electrical power out. Thankfully, they had natural gas for their heating system and we didn't freeze to death. But not everybody's in that situation. So I'm very concerned that Texas's grid will first become overwhelmed and they won't be able to do those things that are necessary to do to get heat to folks. And I think the cause for concern about potential deaths and fatalities is real. I've been watching this system for the last few days myself, and it certainly looks like the forecast is going to be true. I had a speech in Austin, Texas, scheduled to give Saturday morning, and the folks there canceled it because of the weather forecasts and the weather concerns that they see developing already. So it's a tough situation. I don't think we're there yet. We're probably better than we were in 2011 and in 2021 when the last issue occurred, but we're still going to have some challenges and problems.

Clayton Morris (51:16)

So you were a senior executive at Entergy, which is a power company for all of Louisiana, much of eastern Texas. And one of the big problems, of course, as you pointed out, was the solar, the wind. In 2021, they went through and audited everything in Texas. They. They got ahead of schedule and went through and audited a lot of these systems and made sure that, like, a lot of these things were up to snuff. But one of the glaring problems still, as you point out, is the natural gas issue. So I know we're talking a lot about Texas here, but really it's going to go all the way through, right. All the way through the South. When we talk about natural gas, like how. How impact. We always talk about electricity grid, but how impactful is this going to be on the natural gas structure as well?

Colonel Rob Manus (52:00)

Well, we've increased the number of power plants that use natural gas to actually generate the electricity because states have wanted to get away from coal due to climate change pressures and those kinds of policies. So they've gone to using natural gas, but so you still have natural gas that's delivered to the consumer to do things like run their heaters, do their stoves, hot water heaters, and those kind of things. But a lot of that is siphoned off to get to these power generation stations that are using vast amounts of natural gas. And the challenge, especially in cold weather, is pressure. What happened to us in Albuquerque was that the pressure dropped so much that Texas couldn't maintain the pressure to push the natural gas over the mountain range to get over into the valley of New Mexico. So they had to shut the system down to have enough pressure, pressure to get natural gas to their customers over in the state of Texas. That's an example of what's. What happens. But now here we are in 2026, and we've created more natural gas electrical power generation stations as we've gotten away from things like coal, and that natural gas is also required to have large amounts of pressure. And all of these systems are linked together. The gas systems are in one way or another. And as that pressure decreases, the ability to deliver gas to run the electrical power generation or even the gas heater in your home, if you have a natural gas heater, is going to diminish over time. And the colder it gets, the more rapidly it gets colder, the worse that problem is.

Clayton Morris (53:36)

I mean, at the heart of all of this, Colonel, is that we're going to see massive power outages. And the question is, how long will these power outages last? Well into the following week. Right? So it's not. Maybe you and I could be like, hey, let's just get in the car and go and get out of this storm path and, you know, take the dog. And a lot of people just can't up and leave. So what are the, what are people supposed to do? I mean, how can they prep for this, if at all?

Colonel Rob Manus (54:02)

Make sure that you have space heaters that don't require electricity. If you can get space heaters that run off of kerosene, that's better. But also make sure you look at the safety concerns with space heaters running off of kerosene. We lived that way when I was a kid in North Africa using nothing but kerosene space heaters. But we had to be very careful about not killing ourselves with the gases that come off of them inside rooms and buildings and those kind of things. You could leave the area if it's possible for you to do that. But the main thing is make sure you can get heat and access to water and don't rely on the electrical system in order to do that. Now, if you have a propane tank in your yard and your heater runs off propane, you're set. If you have fuel oil and you have a fuel oil tank, then you're set. You'll be able to get the heaters lit off and those kind of things going. But with a pure electrical system or a natural gas system delivered from a central pipeline, it's going to be very difficult. And don't rely on that in this case. The other thing about how long it's going to last, Clayton, I haven't mentioned this because it's the low tech side and that is we have made a really good effort in the utilities to put residential electricity underground. The electricity that goes from the distribution station to the homes and everything. But not everything is underground. If you go to Louisiana and up here in northern Mississippi, all over Mississippi, really in the south, we still use wooden utility poles with wires going across them. And all of those collect what? They collect ice. That's what breaks the wires and causes the system to go down. And there are thousands upon thousands of these that have to be repaired and that extends the time that it takes to get out there and get electricity restored.

Clayton Morris (55:51)

That's a great point. I was speaking to a friend who runs a solar company and he said most people don't understand. Yeah, that's great that you've got lines under underground in your neighborhood, but it's the substations that can also be hit and hit hard. And then, yes, you still have a lot of that infrastructure. I'll get you out of here on this. Colonel, you mentioned water, and I've seen this in some of the reporting now too from the National Weather Service and others. Water supplies. So I guess going out and getting as much water as you can for your family because how can this affect the actual water distribution centers?

Colonel Rob Manus (56:21)

Well, the water pipe's freezing up not just in your house and the faucets freezing up in your house, but the system bringing the water to your house. Most of us are on water systems these days from local municipalities or even the water pipes from your well to your home. Those valves and the pipes are likely to freeze up. So you know, they're right to think about that. People should be collecting water and storing as much water. I would get enough to last seven days if you get got that type of storage capability before the temperatures start dropping below freezing. Because if it gets down to where it's below freezing for two or three days, and then. And then three or four days after that. You're probably not going to get power for at least seven days.

Clayton Morris (57:05)

Geez, this is shaping up to be a disaster. Hope people heed these warnings. Colonel, thank you so much for your expertise on this. Really appreciate it.

Colonel Rob Manus (57:14)

Thank you, Clayton.

Clayton Morris (57:15)

Thanks, Colonel. All right. Stay safe. To all those people out there, it's gonna be brutal. All right, well, we got more news to get to. Oh, sorry.

Natalie Morris (57:23)

Yes, we do. In fact, we're going to talk about this new rift inside Christian denominations over Christian Zionism. Mike Huckabee seems to be freaking out because a group of Christian leaders have issued a rare rebuke of Christian Zionism, saying that this is political politic, politicization of the Christian faith. And Mike Huckabee says, but that's what I do. That's how I. That's how I roll. That's all I do.

Clayton Morris (57:48)

That's my main job.

Natalie Morris (57:49)

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Natalie Morris (60:36)

Well, senior Christian. Sorry, let me take that again. Senior Christian, leaders in Jerusalem just issued a rare rebuke of Christian Zionism which we all know has been used to sell war and support of a foreign government mostly to American Christians. Here is the statement. It comes from the patriarchs and heads of Jerusalem historic churches, and it criticizes Christian Zionism and warns against political interference into the life of the church. Now, it's rare to see such a clear pushback from the heart of Christianity's oldest communities. And it raises major questions about faith and power and politics. Father Robinson joins us today to discuss what's at stake and why the church was compelled to speak out. So thank you for joining me. What do you make of this statement first? And then I want to talk about how Mike Huckabee is freaking out about it because I think that's interesting too.

Father Robinson (61:29)

Yes, absolutely. I think the statement is clear, concise, Sound very good. And it, of course, is released from the patriarchs and heads of the churches in Jerusalem, which tends to cover 13 of the oldest churches, most of whom are Catholic, Orthodox, Anglican and Evangelical Lutheran. This is a council that have been working together for a long time. It's also the week of Christian Unity, Prayer for Christian unity. So it's a good time to release such a statement that essentially just says, look, first and foremost, Christianity is the truth. The only, only religion, and the New Testament is the fulfillment of the Old Testament. All of these things we knew already. But it also says there have been people standing up and speaking up on behalf of Christianity with a false teaching that don't have any authority to do so. And I think that's important because it's highlighting these people who are politicizing an error in the faith, as you and I would call dispensationalism for politics, and essentially manipulating Christians into sport supporting a foreign state, which is, it has a lot of influence over here in America. And so for the patriarchs to speak out so clearly against this era is helpful. I haven't seen it come out from the individual patriarchs, so I'd like to see the, the Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem and the Orthodox Patriarch of Jerusalem come out and release this themselves too. But it's good to see it coming out from the united body.

Natalie Morris (62:55)

But it is, it, it says, such as Christian Zionism, that there are certain perversions of doctrine such as Christian Zionism. So it leaves room for other political manipulations of the Bible. And I think that that's good because you can apply this statement across political lines. And we see that happening especially in America when so many of these evangelical churches are being sold to Israel and their data, as we've, we've covered how, you know, you go to church, you get your data sold to Israel, and then you now are in this propaganda line. So it's a real problem, but they don't address it in such a manacle. I feel maniacal about it. I feel very concerned about watching this happen. But it seems they, they take a measured tone so that this can be applied in the future. What do you think of my assessment?

Father Robinson (63:49)

Yeah, absolutely. But they use the words dangerous ideology, which it is, and you're right that it points to Christian Zionism explicitly, which needs to happen because we need to be told as Christians that this is not something we can fall into the trap of. But also it leaves it open so that the statement can be pointed to in the future with other harmful ideologies when People try to twist our faith for their own political aspirations. Mike Huckabee, who I know you'll get to in a moment, is a prime example. But he one among many of politicians in the west who have fallen in love with an idol or created an idol out of the modern state of Israel, but are using people's Christian faith in order to gain support. And you're absolutely right in that data is being sold, but the faith is being manipulated into in a demonic way. Really, truly. We know that for example, one of the biggest Christian witnesses that we've had in modern times was Charlie Kirk's memorial, right? There was a great big Christian service with politicians and pastors and faith leaders all speaking from the pulpit, trying their best to proclaim the gospel. We know that the data from that, anyone who attended that was receiving propaganda from Israel like this is, this is something that shouldn't be happening. Our faith shouldn't be used as a political tool for a modern state anywhere in the world.

Natalie Morris (65:02)

Now it doesn't specifically mention violence, it only mentions political co opting. But we know that that then is the consequence of supporting a nation state that is at war and has taken no precautions to pull back that war. And so I mean, what do you make of. I guess I wished that there was some kind of like, hey, the Bible says we're not supposed to be killing children, innocent children or something, but maybe that's implicit. What do you think?

Father Robinson (65:30)

Yeah, I think this is the first step because so many people's eyes need opening and you can't open them all at once and you can't jump in the deep end all at once. So you and I have had convers conversations before where we've said very clear things like you know, as you just pointed out, killing innocent children in Gaza is wrong. We should pray for all innocent lives. But just that statement alone is too much for two people, too many people at the beginning. So we've got to start off by saying the Christian faith cannot be manipulated with any harmful ideology, including Christian Zionism. So the words there people are thinking, well, Christian Zionism isn't part of our Christian faith. Why not? And then they can dig a bit further. But you and I obviously know that the, the true faith, the Christian faith grew out of Judaism of the Bible. But Judaism today is not the same as Judaism of the Bible. It is a reaction to Christianity. It's a rejection of Christ. And nothing or any, no one that rejects Christ is good. In fact we have a word for that, it's called Antichrist. And so we can't have Christians, Christ followers supporting Antichrist. It makes no logical sense. And so when we hear this, to be blessed as a nation or to blessed as a people, we must bless Israel. We need to get back to the teaching and realize that actually. Well, yes, Israel is now the church. Israel is God's chosen people. And it started out with biblical Judaism and the Gentiles were grafted in. Nobody was replaced. Gentiles were grafted in. And Jews and gentiles of that time are now referred to as Christians, followers of Christ, God's chosen people.

Natalie Morris (66:56)

Yeah, I want to talk about Mike Huckabee. I guess let's do this, because then I want to talk about how that sort of came to be. And since you're an English Christian, I think that you might have a good perspective. I've been reading the Scofield book about how he was. Cyrus Scofield, who wrote the book, you know, sort of the Bible teaching book that introduced dispensationalism to Americans was influenced by John Nelson Darby, who was an Englishman. And I want to. I guess I want to ask you. Let's get to that first. Why do you think he did that? Why did you think he came up with this idea that God has these. These like disparate set of rules for who lived in what century? And then that means that we must then support the nation state of Israel?

Father Robinson (67:42)

I think because of a lack of authority and I think because of too much pride. If we look at any modern era or heresy, they usually come about from someone who believes they're more special than everyone else. Martin Luther, John Calvin, if we look at the Muhammad himself, right. So the Islamic faith comes from the same kind of private revelation that there's more to the truth than you've been given so far. In the Bible, we have an extra, you know, Joseph Smith with the Mormons, another one, all these people. And so Jonathan Darby is another one who's like, no, I have a better understanding than the church has had for the last thousand years or 2000 years. I have a better understanding of the truth of revelation. And so it comes about from an element of pride, but also a lack of authority in that lack of submission, submission to the church's teaching. The church has taught for 2000 years that Christians are God's chosen people. The church has taught that we should love our enemies. And so it's not about becoming anti Semitic, but it is about recognizing that some people are Antichrist and we need to bring them to Christ. We don't need to leave people where they are. Because loving your neighbor means leading everyone to Christ, means trying to get everyone into heaven, make heaven crowded, as Charlie would say. That's our goal of Christians. And so when. When the one, Jonathan Darby's poor theology got taken up by Scofield and spread, somehow making it from England over to America, where it's not even that prevalent in England anymore, but it is massive over here. You've got people who've only been taught that. And so all they know is that to bless Israel means to bless the 1948 state of Israel, which the Rothschilds and my government set up. That just not, well, 75 years ago.

Natalie Morris (69:17)

Right. And I wonder, people who might still adhere to the Schofield Bible, haven't they been warned about false prophets? If you study the life of Cyrus Schofield, he abandoned his daughters. He married his second wife before he was divorced from his first. He was sued many times for fraud and theft. He stole money from people. He fought for the Confederacy and lied about it in order to work for the Attorney General's office. This. What. Why is this not obvious to everybody?

Father Robinson (69:47)

As I just said, we for these traps all the time. Just. Was it yesterday? No, two days ago now. Was Martin Luther King Day a federal holiday in this country for goodness? I'm like, what? So this is the first time I've been in this country during this holiday. I'm like, you have a federal holiday for a serial adulterer sodomite who denied the virgin birth, denied the resurrection of Jesus Christ, called himself a Christian. Like, it's the exact same problem as Scofield. These people that kind of make heroes of themselves, make saints of themselves, and people seem to follow them despite them the fact that they are not following Christ. And we fall for it time and time again, which is why we should never make idols, which is why the only person we should ever follow is Jesus Christ.

Natalie Morris (70:27)

Right. Well said. Okay, let's talk about Mike Huckabee, because here's his statement. It's long and convoluted. It's barely worth reading. But he's basically. Basically saying, you can't gatekeep Christianity. But this is how I'm gatekeeping Christianity. That's the way I read it. He says, I don't understand how you can be a Christian and not a Zionist. Is this consistent, would you say, with.

Clayton Morris (70:47)

And.

Natalie Morris (70:47)

And here's. Here's what concerns me the most, because I know what you'll say about whether it's consistent or not with theology, but he is a Politician using his religion for his political aims. How does the Church distinguish between faith guiding moral life and faith as a political instrument?

Father Robinson (71:07)

Great. So our politics should be governed by our faith, not the other way around. And so we should look at the Bible for exegesis, as in, we should take out of the Bible teachings. But quite often people look at it through eisegesis, where they put their own understanding into the Bible and try to make the Bible fit what they already believe. People like Mike Huckabee are a prime example of that, because his faith clearly follows his politics. Politics. And we see that because we have 13 faith leaders of all the biggest churches throughout the history of the Church together releasing a statement. And he comes out and says, no, no, I know better. So not only is he trying to undermine the Church, he's trying to rebuke the Church as a politician, not a theologian, not a faith leader, not even a particularly good Christian. But as a politician, he's saying, no, no, no, I believe this. So you are all clearly wrong. I mean, the audacity that, the level, the degree of pride around that. I hope he has some introspection to say, maybe, you know, maybe he'll look inside himself a little bit and think, am I right on this? Is the Church trying to teach me something that I haven't yet understood? Because that's what we should all be doing. And I include myself in this. All of us, whether we're priests, bishops, or laymen, whatever we are, we should be thinking, how is. What is the Church teaching me in this? And how can I take something from it? Not, how can I put my own understanding onto it? Because that's how we fall into pride and error and heresy.

Natalie Morris (72:24)

Mike Huckabee seems very slippery. He seems to be outside of the realm of consequences. I mean, meeting with Jonathan Pollard, the spy, recently inside Israel, I. I don't have any faith that he will take that introspective route that you've suggested, but, okay, anyone can. Course correct. So I will be kind about it, even though I don't.

Father Robinson (72:45)

Well, I think he's gone native, hasn't he? We've seen this. Meeting with an Israeli spy is one thing, but he promotes Israel over and above promoting America. I often forget he's America's ambassador to Israel. I often think that he's Israel's ambassador to America. And nobody should be thinking that. Nobody should have any doubts about his loyalties. But we clearly do. And this is the problem with these politicians, that if you are representing this country, you should believe in this country first and foremost, then that's the United States of America. If you don't love America more than every other country, you should not be a representative, you shouldn't be an elected official for this country. It's actually tyranny. Sorry. It's actually treasonous. And it would have been treated as treasonous in any other previous generation. But we live in a soft generation where people can seemingly do whatever the heck they want as long as they put Israel first. And there have been concerns about many of the mainstream politicians on their dual loyalties to Israel.

Natalie Morris (73:34)

Yes. So how can Christians be on guard against false, false prophets who manipulate their well intentioned faith for political aim?

Father Robinson (73:44)

Good question. I would say pick up the Bible, but don't read the Bible by yourself. Read it in church. Go to church. Find out what the church teaches. And the older the church, the better. If you can, go to a Catholic church or an Orthodox church, fantastic. Find a teaching that's been around for 2,000 years. Don't find a teaching that's only been around for the last hundred years. Because if it's only been around for the last hundred years, it's not novel, it's innovative, it's new, and it's probably wrong. Go with the sacred tradition, the sacred teaching of the church. The church is infallible because it is founded by Jesus Christ himself and therefore he revealed the truth to us. Let's go with his truth rather than Darby or Scofield or Huckabee or even President Trump.

Natalie Morris (74:23)

All right. I love it. Thank you so much for breaking this down for us. I really appreciate it. It's always good to see you and happy New Year.

Father Robinson (74:29)

Happy New Year. God bless you.

Natalie Morris (74:31)

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