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The Epstein Names Are NOW Being Released & The Deep State is P*SSED

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Wed Feb 11 2026

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Episode Title: The Epstein Names Are NOW Being Released & The Deep State is P*SSED
Air Date: February 11, 2026
Hosts: Clayton and Natali Morris
Main Guest: Jay Dyer

Episode Overview

This episode of Redacted News focuses on the explosive new release of previously redacted names connected to Jeffrey Epstein, with particular attention to government coverups, high-profile business and political connections, and the intersection of elite power, occult practices, and media manipulation. The episode features an in-depth analysis from researcher Jay Dyer, who connects the Epstein network to broader patterns of sexual blackmail and ritual depicted in Hollywood and elite society.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. New Epstein Names Revealed (06:00–20:39)

Context: Recent efforts by Congressmen Ro Khanna and Thomas Massie forced the Department of Justice (DOJ) to release previously redacted names from the Epstein files.
Ro Khanna on the House floor: Major portions of the Epstein materials—70–80%—remain redacted. Khanna and Massie discovered six key names hidden “for no apparent reason,” now public:
- Salvatore Nora
- Zorab Michaladze
- Leonic Leoniav
- Nicola Caputo
- Sultan Ahmed Bin Sulayam (CEO of Dubai Ports World)
- Leslie Wexner (billionaire, longtime Epstein backer and labeled co-conspirator by the FBI)
Quote:

“If we found six men that they were hiding in two hours, imagine how many men they are covering up for in those 3 million files.”
—Rep. Ro Khanna [06:53]
Hosts’ Analysis:
- Wexner’s central role and unexplained protection by DOJ scrutinized.
- Questions raised: “If the DOJ all along labeled him a co-conspirator, why has he been left alone?” —Host 1 [09:25]
- Wexner’s deep business, political, and Israeli affiliations highlighted as potential reasons for coverup.

2. Howard Lutnick’s Congressional Grilling (11:27–15:03)

Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick: Was grilled over long-denied ties to Epstein; forced to admit to a family visit to Epstein’s private island, contradicting earlier denials.
Quote:

“Did you, in fact, make the visit to Jeffrey Epstein’s private island?... I did have lunch with him… for an hour.”
—Howard Lutnick [12:29]
Journalist Pressure: Lutnick is confronted by the press post-testimony, responding curtly, “I look forward to testifying today.” [14:46]
Audience Reaction: Callers and hosts question why anyone disgusted by Epstein would maintain contact and bring family to his island.

3. Elite Protection, Political Complicity, & The Trump Paradox (15:38–19:14)

Political Contradictions:
- Trump is revealed in FBI files as one of the first major figures to call the police on Epstein in 2006—but subsequently surrounded himself with numerous Epstein-adjacent figures, including Bill Barr and Kevin Warsh.
- Audience and hosts struggle to reconcile public denunciations vs. private networks of complicity.
Super Chat Q&A: Discusses why only certain names are redacted and why some are “offered up” for public sacrifice while others are persistently hidden.

4. Hollywood, Ritual Abuse, and Eyes Wide Shut: Jay Dyer Interview (23:54–58:20)

Jay Dyer’s Key Points

Kubrick’s Eyes Wide Shut as Predictive Allegory:
- The film mirrors the real-world rituals, blackmail and underage abuse among elites, previously hidden in “plain sight.”
- “Eyes Wide Shut… is essentially describing the fact that… most people’s eyes were wide shut… to how the world really works.” [27:32]
- Ritualistic orgies and compromises, as depicted in the film, reflect actual elite practices (links to Rothschild’s masquerade balls, European nobility).
Historical Context:
- Deep ties between intelligence agencies (CIA, MI6), Hollywood, and sexual blackmail.
- Rothschilds’ and Maxwells’ historical involvement in compromise and intelligence operations, often using sexual entrapment—confirmed by both public and classified sources.
Sexual Blackmail & “Sexpionage”:
- Blackmail through sexual compromise is an ancient, global intelligence technique, not limited to the Soviets or Chinese; the West (CIA, OSS) and organized crime have long used these tactics (i.e., “Operation Midnight Climax”).
Ritual and Trauma Programming:
- Victims are often recruited, groomed, and trauma-bonded for additional purposes—including use as operatives.
- Quotes Kinsey, Rockefeller Foundation, and MKUltra doctors about trafficking and abusing children under the guise of science.
Kubrick’s Motives & Missing Edits:
- Kubrick, according to his daughter Vivian, was anti-establishment and sought to expose elite evil.
- Uncut version of Eyes Wide Shut reportedly removed heaviest content on underage abuse, likely by Hollywood powers after Kubrick’s death.
Hollywood’s Open Secret:
- Symbolism and ritual embedded throughout pop culture—either as warnings or as part of elite ethos to “show us what they’re doing.”
- Many celebrities have direct intelligence ties; e.g., Jennifer Garner’s CIA promotion, Ben Affleck’s CIA consultation on films.

Notable Quotes

“We’re actually ruled by elites who have no morals… Even though the film doesn’t explicitly mention Satanism…the music is reversed as a Crowleyan inversion, a Satanic principle.” —Jay Dyer [35:17]
“The real origin of intelligence… is banking. Even according to mainline Rothschild biographers…” —Jay Dyer [32:19]
“Eyes Wide Shut is kind of an initiation; at first, the main character thinks he’s elite, then discovers a higher untouchable class with no regard for law or morality.” —Jay Dyer [34:42]
“Fiction anesthetizes you. So when the real thing happens, people are less shocked.” —Jay Dyer on predictive programming [53:18]

Timestamps for Key Segments

[06:00] Rep. Ro Khanna reads new unredacted Epstein names on House floor
[11:27] Howard Lutnick grilled by Congress and media
[23:54] Transition to Hollywood’s “Eyes Wide Shut” and Jay Dyer interview
[25:06] Dyer explains Kubrick, Hollywood, rituals, and blackmail
[30:45] Rothschild masquerade “galas” and their compromising function
[34:42] Dyer discusses Kubrick’s intention and the film’s “initiation” nature
[41:24] Discussion on ritualistic organization among elites
[47:31] Illuminati symbolism in pop culture; PR relationship between Hollywood and intelligence
[53:18] Predictive programming and psychological conditioning in film

Memorable Moments & Listener Interaction

Audience/Crowd: Numerous real-time chat contributions, including super chats probing into the motives for redactions, government complicity, and naming additional experts.
Hosts’ Relatability: Frequent asides about the difficulty of getting through to skeptical loved ones and the importance of gently leading others to truth.
Humor & Pop-Culture References: Frequent quips about “the Rothschild’s balls,” meta-references about CIA in Hollywood, and the irony of discussing serious content against the backdrop of celebrity culture.

Conclusions & Takeaways

There is conclusive evidence of DOJ and establishment efforts to protect powerful men connected to Epstein, some of whom are only now being unmasked thanks to persistent congressional oversight.
The structures of elite blackmail, cover-up, and ritual practice are embedded deeply in both political and cultural spheres—including Hollywood and intelligence agencies—validated by literature, testimony, and declassified documents.
Public consciousness is finally catching up, as evidence and high-level testimony bring “conspiracy” into mainstream visibility.
Predictive programming and ritual symbolism serve to both anesthetize and signal to the public—sometimes as artistic warnings, often as veiled boasts.
The ultimate lesson: Stay critical, keep questioning, and push for truth—no matter who is “left out” of the official narrative.

Notable Quotes by Timestamp

[06:53] Rep. Ro Khanna: “If we found six men that they were hiding in two hours, imagine how many men they are covering up for in those 3 million files.”
[09:25] Host 1: “If the DOJ all along labeled [Wexner] a co-conspirator, why has he been left alone?”
[12:29] Howard Lutnick: “I did have lunch with [Epstein] as I was on a boat going across on a family vacation... I don’t recall why we did it.”
[27:32] Jay Dyer: “Eyes Wide Shut… is essentially describing the fact that… most people’s eyes were wide shut… to how the world really works.”
[35:17] Jay Dyer: “We’re actually ruled by elites who have no morals… It’s a satanic worldview.”
[41:24] Jay Dyer: “MKUltra doctors… explicitly say… LSD and trauma were used to fracture personalities in children as programming.”
[53:18] Jay Dyer: “Fiction anesthetizes you. So when the real thing happens, people are less shocked.”

Additional Resources Referenced

Whitney Webb: Repeatedly credited for investigative work connecting Leslie Wexner, Maxwell, and Israeli intelligence.
Operation Midnight Climax: CIA’s experiment with brothels and dosing “Johns.”
Books mentioned:
- “Sexpionage” by Walter Boer
- “Programming and Metaprogramming the Human Biocomputer” by John C. Lilly
- “Physical Control of the Mind” by José Delgado
- “Esoteric Hollywood” by Jay Dyer

Episode Tone

The episode maintains a tone of skepticism, urgency, and dark humor, with undercurrents of frustration at slow public awakening and governmental dissembling. Jay Dyer’s encyclopedic delivery is intense but accessible, peppered with cultural references and historical deep-dives.

For listeners, this episode is an eye-opening synthesis of the latest Epstein disclosures, the history and mechanics of elite blackmail, and how deep-state power maintains itself through hidden networks, media, and even our entertainment.

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Now, Wexner, you may have known, was Epstein's main financier. He gave him one of the largest apartments in New York City. He, Epstein had full power of attorney over all of Wexner's assets. And he is a billionaire. Continues to be. He's one of the founders of Bed, Bath and Beyond and founder of, let's see, Victoria's Secret and La Senza. One other I'm missing right now. So he amasses great amount of fortune and Epstein, having very little experience in personal finance, becomes his main guy. Now, we have known this since at least 2008, when Epstein was deposed and his. The lawyers who represented the victims asked about Wexner. We've known that since way before that. The question is, why did the DOJ never have him testify? Why was he never interviewed? All we can see from the files is that he was deposed two weeks before Epstein died. And then, oh, no. And then, you know, Epstein's dead. I guess we don't have to do this anymore. And we don't know. Now we know that the DOJ all along has labeled Wexner a co conspirator. So what did they do with that? Did they investigate him? Did they ever go. They never raided his house, as far as we know. They never impaneled a grand jury, as far as we know. Unless it was sealed indictments, we don't know. Why has he been protected all along? Why does he go free? What happened after he replaced Epstein with somebody else? Did that other guy, we talked about him yesterday. Did he do anything? We don't know. What we do know is that he is a prominent donor to Israeli causes. He is a Jewish businessman. We do know that he had alliances with Eliud Barak, the former prime minister. We do know that Benjamin Netanyahu's son once called Wexner a cult of pedophiles because he said that he was aligned with the far left in Israel. And then Netanyahu obviously is the, is the right, right wing version of Israeli politics. He has said that Wexner has been trying influence Israeli politics for decades and that appears to be true with his donations. So who protected him? Why did we never. If the, if the DOJ all along has labeled him a co conspirator, why has he been left alone? Also strange bit is that he went on to buy the Martha's Vineyard home that the Obamas had rented. What is that connection? These are very serious questions that we never got answered. And yet when we have been screaming about Lex Wexner for over a decade, the DOJ said nothing. And we now know they did in fact label him a co conspiracy. So that is, that's major that we knew it. We've been screaming his name forever. And now they're like, yeah, we've been on that one. So we're like. And then.

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Jay Dyer (25:06)

Yeah, thank you. Glad to be back with you guys. Yeah, I wrote a really in depth analysis of Eyes Wide Shut, kind of a academic style essay maybe in 2011. And it got a quite a bit of attention from it because people started noticing, hey, you know, you know, this aspect of the ritual, this aspect of the tie into Hollywood. There's actually history behind a lot of this. And Kubrick as a, you know, somewhat of a counter establishment figure, was putting a lot of messages into his films. And so I was studying film at a graduate level as well in terms of propaganda at the same time. So the deeper I dove into this, I started realizing that in the academic literature, which, you know, most people don't actually read, not that they would. I mean, it's just for a bunch of nerds, they started coming out with books 10, 15 years ago about the relationship of the CIA to Hollywood at an academic level. Right. So normal people aren't reading this. This isn't really in the media. You had Even right after 9 11, there was academic texts like Operation Hollywood. And what these books were describing was this, this intimate relationship between high level A listers, producers, directors, the Pentagon, the nsa, the FBI, as well as other foreign intelligence agencies, obviously the Mossad and British intelligence. And so turns out there's always been this really close relationship between film propaganda, the deep state intelligence agencies, and it turns out, sex cults. And so I thought that Kubrick's film was just so profound in that it ties in all of that stuff together. Because if you don't recall or if you're not aware, the narrative of the story is that Tom Cruise is a sort of, you know, wealthy mid level New York elite doctor who gets invited to every, say, higher tier billionaire level party. And, and the invitation is sort of mysterious. We don't exactly know if he's supposed to be there, if he's not supposed to be there. But what he stumbles upon is essentially there's a tier of people above him that are engaged in international ritual sex type stuff, including murders, assassinations, probably suggesting other things with the Lily Sobieski character being underage, underage trafficking of girls and so forth. And there's even a curious line in the film where when the Tom Cruise character goes to the costume store and he says, what do I need for a masked ball, you know, a renaissance style mass ball. And the director, the owner of the costume store, who's a trafficker himself connected to the network, he says, they say you're going to need this special cloak. And so that is a cloak worn specifically by royals in Europe and in the uk. And so when Tom Cruise stumbles upon this and gets to this big event here, he sees this mass ritual orgy. It's a black mass, essentially. It's very Crowley and in terms of Aleister Crowley style rituals. And ultimately we find out that this is a network that is compromising and is essentially controlling the wealthiest people, in this case in New York, probably the east coast as well. The guy has a British accent that sort of runs the cult, the hierophant. So long story short, I think the phrase eyes wide shut is essentially describing the fact that back in the late 90s, when Kubrick did this film, most people's eyes were wide shut. They were open, but they're shut to how the world really works, which is what this film is about. And if you go back to my book, the very first chapter, I talked about how this is describing the strategy and the techniques of the Rothschild mass balls, as you put up.

Jay Dyer (30:45)

These are older images from the 60s and 70s where they were inviting very prominent people. In fact, some of the pictures include people like Audrey Hepburn being at these Balls. And you know, this is, this is I think an old European tradition. So the ball itself is nothing new. I've done research in my grad studies on Renaissance era mass balls and, and what the elite would do is you bring all these people to these sort of saturnalian parties where you have O R G I E s, shall we say. And that goes back to, like I said, medieval Europe. And for a long time it could be a very excellent, a very, it's a perfect setting to compromise people. So if you go into the history of, of sexual blackmail and these kinds of operations, the Rothschilds were at the front, front of this for many, many centuries. In fact, in terms of Epstein himself, the Robert Maxwell was a front for the Rothschild operation. And I think you guys have talked to Whitney Webb. The first few chapters of her book detail how Maxwell was brought in as a frontispiece, a kind of a, you know, facade for the Rothschilds to be a corporate takeover artist, to be this, you know, publishing magnate that was a front to cut out. And that was all at the behest of both British intelligence and Israel as well at the same time. So the Ratchos seem to really be perfect at this. It's a science that they perfected. In fact, there's some information and indications, people have written some books theorizing that if you go back to the Cambridge spy ring and the famous story of the Soviets that defected, many of whom were, by the way, homosexual, the reason that matters is because they were very close to Lord Victor Rothschild, who many people suspect was the key person behind that Cambridge spy ring, because he was playing both sides, both British intelligence and playing the side of the Soviets. And there was that famous email that came out from Epstein a few days ago explaining that, well, the reason that Maxwell was assassinated was because he tried to extort the Mossad, whom he worked for, appointing himself as an attache for Israel to the Soviets and the KGB actually had translations that my friend did where they were during the Cold War. They had the exact same assessment of Maxwell. He's playing both sides. He's trying to feed us secrets as he's trying to extort the Mossad. And that was supposedly, according to Epstein, the reason why they took him out. Now the reason I say all that is that again, this is, as Epstein himself says, and a Rothschild operation. He is a agent, an attache, a legate of the Rothschilds. Many emails confirm this, including business deals beyond just being a legate. And again that's because they have this long time connection not just to intelligence and to apparently cults, as well as the history of the nation state of Israel going all the way back to the 1860s according to Moses Hess. It's also because they're a. An elite, powerful European banking dynasty. And intelligence really comes out of banking. This is something a lot of people understand. They think, oh, it's James Bond, it's assassinating people. It's this. That. That's a lower level. The. The real origin of intelligence. Even according to the mainline Rothschild biographers, like the Morton Text, which is an official biography of the Rothschilds, within the first few chapters, the famous story about Waterloo, that they had advanced intelligence that allowed them to buy up the collapsed stock market in the UK And London. That's true. They all brag about that. Yeah, absolutely. And the way we were able to do that was advanced intelligence. It's not an accident that when David Rockefeller sets up his banking empire because he comes out of military intelligence, he brags about that in his memoirs. So we gotta understand that intelligence, cults, networks, and even Hollywood all tie together. There's no perfect example in this.

Jay Dyer (34:42)

So I've gotten to know Vivian Kubrick, Kubrick's daughter, since writing my books and doing all this, and we've had a lot of conversations. And the way Vivian describes it is that she says her dad was a genuinely anti establishment person. She thinks that he did have some spiritual sensibilities about him. Even though he was kind of agnostic. He did believe in, you know, inexplicable, mysterious types of phenomena. So he wasn't like a total rank materialist, per se. But she said that his perspective was that, you know, he had seen a lot, done a lot when he was younger. He was a little more naive when it came to Spartacus and films where he was perhaps more so on the. The socialist, communist side. And after many years, as he got, you know, more mature and older, the themes in his films, I think, really are accurate. So I don't think Kubrick was intentionally part of a conspiracy or trying to cover things up. I think he really was saying, look, here's what's really going on. People don't understand it. I don't know any other way to convey it other than the art form that I've chosen this medium. But I would say in terms of the film itself, again, it's almost like the film is a ritual itself. It's kind of an initiation process because the character, Bill Harford is, you know, totally Eyes Wide Shut at the beginning. He doesn't know how the world really works. He thinks he's at the elite, top of, you know, the power structure. He's a very successful, wealthy, multi million dollar doctor in New York. And then he meets this whole other class of people who live a totally different, untouchable, you know, free from any legalities, doing whatever they want, do what thou wilt worldview. And he's totally mystified. He has no. No idea what. It just totally destroys his world. And one of the themes throughout the film is Freudian, you know, sexual, you know, psychoanalysis type stuff. I won't go too deep into that. But the point of that is that just like he's struggling with his own sexuality in his marriage, he realizes that the elite, they use sexuality as a currency to control the masses. So I think that those are. Those are the key elements of what Eyes Watch, I was trying to tell us, is that we're actually ruled by elites who have no morals, no moral compass whatsoever. They're absolutely satanic. And even though the film doesn't explicitly mention, you know, Satanism or Crowley, the very ominous sort of reversal music that's played is actually something that Aleister Crowley was into, which was taking music or taking speech and reversing it to teach people the principle of what he called inversion or taking good things and proper things and then inverting them to their opposite. A lot of people have a satanic worldview or a very dark hermetic worldview. They think that you can actually gain power by doing that. And perhaps if the film is portraying this ritual perspective, that would explain a lot. Especially if you think about the Epstein Bannon interview, which we just live streamed on my channel yesterday or a couple days ago. Epstein basically seems like he's into, you know, Kabbalism and into the occult. So I think there is an overlap there.

Jay Dyer (38:26)

Yeah, yeah. We did A for example, on my channel we did a lecture through a book called Sexpionage by just a mainline historian, Walter Boer. And in that book he says that one of the elements that most people don't realize that has brought down kingdoms, destroy civilizations and ended wars is sexpionage, which is the art of sexual compromise, honey traps, blackmail, etc. We've all seen this in movies. If you know, you saw the Jennifer Lawrence movie Red Sparrow that was about Stalin and the NKVD techniques of training operatives and make them into sex honey traps. But the CIO always supposedly has this line of, well, we don't do that in the West. That's something that China and Russia do because we're moral. But the reality is that just simply they don't do it under the COVID of the CIA. They use other things. Think about Operation Midnight Climax. That was a, an MK Ultra adjacent program that's declassified where the CIA was wanting to study the effects of LSD on John's in the midst of sexual things liaisons. And so they dosed the johns using mafia brothels. And so that's, that's Operation Midnight Climax right there. So what does that tell you, you know, when they say, oh, we don't use, you know, sexual operatives? Well, no, they just farm it out to brothels run by organized crime, which has always had a close relationship with the CIA and the OSS going back to World War II. So yes, you're absolutely right. In fact, there's a famous guy you could look up, Kenji Doihara as an example. He was the Japanese Jeffrey Epstein back at the turn of the century and the Japanese Chinese War. He got this idea to set up a bunch of brothels in China and put the prostitutes strategically in the locations near where the Chinese generals lived. And he was able to defeat China through opium and prostitution networks. And the prostitutes were all spies. And so I think that you're starting to see the picture come together. Like this is a known technique. It's just not known to people unless you've studied, you know, history or military history. Like this is how the world really works.

Jay Dyer (41:24)

Great question. You know, some of that domain is still a little ambiguous and unknown. However. I've got several books from MK Ultra doctors themselves up there on my shelf. I can get them if I need to. For example, John C. Lilly's book, Programming and Metaprogramming in the Human Biocomputer. That's all about LSD in human programming and MK Ultra operations. So Jose Delgado has a book up there, Physical Control of the Mind. So these are all real MK Ultra adjacent doctors who were studying these things. And if you think about Alfred Kinsey, his research was funded by the Rockefeller foundation to study underage sexuality. He's the one that of course was a notorious PDF with those disgusting experiments that he did on kids. And he's the one that promoted the idea that everybody is on a spectrum gay. So we're all skittles, we're all rainbow. According to Kinsey. He was a big promoter of, you know, the 60s countercultural sexual revolution type ideology. So when you think about at an academic level, you've got these so called academics and scientists and sociologists studying this sexuality and then promoting these ideas that become, you know, sort of toxic culture. I think you're spot on when you, when you, when we consider the possibility that the, the deepest that we can go into the public information on MK Ultra does include fracturing personalities. It does include attempts at least at using lsd, according to Lilly, even on young children, to program various alters in, in them, in experiments. He explicitly says that at the end of the book. So I would suspect with that email it looks like a person who was spotting or recruiting for Jeffrey Epstein, looking for people who had, according to him, sexual trauma which would make them more susceptible to being developed or being, you know, programmed so to speak, into being some sort of operative. It even gets into weird sort of I don't believe in X Men stuff literally. But it's like that where it's. The person can develop abilities or techniques. And we don't know what that stage three means, but it does sound like the type of process that you read in some of these MK Ultra doctors in terms of traumatizing and programming people to be operatives. And we see like heads of state, queens, kings, billionaires. They're offering their daughters to Jeffrey and saying, hey, take her, program her hey, my son, he's 15. How do I program him to, you know, interact with women? Like, can you give me advice on parenting? Like, just insane. Like, who would ask Jeffrey Epstein for parenting advice? Well, apparently the children of the royals and the elites throughout the world do.

Jay Dyer (53:18)

Yeah, there's a whole section in the first book, Star Hollywood one, where I covered the role of Spielberg, I think, in predictive programming and propaganda. He's definitely a longtime propagandist at a very high level when it comes to, you know, stuff, especially back during the Reagan era. Reagan actually appropriated quite a bit of money and focus on in the 1980s, getting Hollywood to produce very pro military, you know, pro USA propaganda, not just for the Cold War and the collapse of the Soviets, but the reinvigorating of the American Imperium, which we later see in the 90s, that's the PNAC document ends up being the same ideology of the neoconservatives to have the rebuilt American empire. So you saw in the 80s a lot of movies like Top Gun again, Tom Cruise is there. Top Gun is a huge military promo film. In fact, it was very successful in getting a lot of people to go into the military, including my dad. My dad thought Top Gun made him. It made him want to go into the Navy. So it worked. And there was other films that came out, Navy seals and others at that time. So Predictive program has that one level which is just pure propaganda. But you've also got things like subliminals that, you know, people have been studying that since the 60s and 70s that does exist to a degree in advertising and film. You've got the element of perhaps an occult connection where some directors explicitly believe that their films are ritual workings. I think if you look at people like Darren Aronofsky, he's an open kabbalist. A lot of his films have a very sort of dark, kabbalistic vibe to them. You've got directors like Robert Eggers, one of the, you know, top directors out there now. He's openly interested in, you know, Satanism and the occult. He talks about reading grimoires and whatnot and requiring the actors to read grimoires to understand how to sort of instantiate that sort of dark ethos in their acting, the Stanislavski method, that kind of stuff. So there's a lot of layers to predict a program. But another element, I think is in terms of psychological warfare. One thing that has been studied is that fiction has the ability to sort of prepare you, condition you, and maybe even anesthetize you to the things when they really happen. So you have these dystopian films for many years that talk about things to come, and then lo and behold, they come about. Right. Philip K. Dick's stories have been very well noted for that tendency. Isaac Asimov Foundation. You've got texts from the 60s and 70s that predicted the Internet, Silicon Valley, tracking, tracing, all these dystopian texts. But are they also conditioning, I would say, in the part of Hollywood? Yeah, there's a lot of. Of conditioning that they want to, you know, get. Get the public to accept this stuff when it comes out. And probably I would say with the alien mythos, and in my. My opinion, the aliens are more demonic. It's a demonic phenomena. And in that regard, probably what they're doing is preparing the people for the announcement of some disclosure that I Don't know if you guys have ever read Arthur Clark's Childhood's End, but Childhood's in is a text written by a guy who was into Crowley and he was a PDF, right? Arthur C. Clark, the famous sci fi guy. You know, he co wrote 2001. Well, Clark says that it's basically a demon. It's this hoofed, cloven hoof, you know, character that's behind the alien phenomena when the aliens arrive and announce their disclosure. You know, I covered that in my first book too. I think covering the film Signs, the Mel Gibson film, which I think hints at it being demonic.

Host 2 (65:52)

Catch it live, it's buried in the back end. There's an area called viewer activity where I can actually click on that and it shows us the future super chats that we got that came in. So just so you understand not to have your feelings hurt, Remnant, but appreciate it. But Remnant likes was telling how he's more. I think you were saying like you're, you're, you know, more than, than Jay or something. Oh, I've studied a new world order since early 2001. Just want to state what Jay Dyer shared is not new to us. Okay, thank you, Remnant. So that's great. That's wonderful that you are enlightened and that you, you know more than most people. Thank you for sharing that. I appreciate that not everyone knows all of all of that research, but that's amazing that you do. AK Steve says Representative Massey, many Epstein emails were sent via Gmail, not secure or hidden systems. Does that suggest confidence in immunity and should Congress investigate how this was allowed to persist? Well, I mean, certainly people like using non governmental emails for this type of transactional behavior for sure. Right. This is the thing that got, you know, Hillary Clinton in trouble, but then not really in trouble and nothing ever happened to her because James Comey. Right. Thank you, Apophis, for your super chat as well. Brandon C. Thank you for your $5 super chat. Love the show and your efforts and Apophis, thank you for your $50 super chat. Really appreciate that. False fisa. Sorry if I'm pronouncing your name correct. Says, hey there. Just want to say thank you. You're doing a fantastic job with your news reports on YouTube. Excellent work, especially on the Epstein stories. Thank you so much. Appreciate that. I mean, you know, the thing is we're constantly learning, right? And so that's the goal here with this show is we don't have all the answers. I certainly don't. I mean, except a couple of our viewers just admitted that they have all the answers. But for the most part, we're all learning constantly and we all have blind spots and we're all trying to dig deeper into these stories. So that's the goal here. And I also think it's important. We had David Icke on the show who's done incredible work for 36 years. And I saw one comment that was like, but there's other people that have done more work than him. It's like, okay, so you should only ever have on the person who's. Who's now 95 years old and doesn't even have a computer but can't do Internet access. But okay, I appreciate that.

Host 2 (69:06)

Right. And so we're covering multiple angles here on the show because I think arguably it's the biggest story in the world right now because it's not just about Epstein. It's about. It's about. It touches so many pieces of the story, from ufology to advanced propulsion technology. I mean, it touches pedophilia, Hollywood, our government officials, this entire Satanist network, child trafficking, why we create wars, why we're openly pushing for war in Ukraine so we could destabilize the country and sell off their children in a massive sex trafficking operation, which is still going on, by the way. That's what covered the global economies. Yeah, global economies. I mean, I'm sure I missed surveillance something. Yeah, biometric surveillance state. Right. Everything. So I think it's arguably the biggest story in the world. Next, only perhaps to the UFO revelations that we're just learning about and we're likely to hear more about. But like Congressman Burchett just admitted on camera what we've been reporting here for at least the last year or two, that there are underground bases, massive underground bases where we have aliens that we're working with. This is coming from Congressman Burchett. Can you imagine, like, on a normal day, like, that story should be the number one story in the world. World. That's unbelievable. We're actively working with aliens at underground water bases in the ocean, which We've covered that here on the show with different secret space program insiders and whistleblowers. Now, Congressman Burchett is on the record saying that he has evidence that that's the case. Okay, let's just move along. Let's just talk about Bad Bunny at halftime shows. Cultural stuff. Stuff the Epstein Binder access journalist types will cover on their shows. But they won't talk about Lutnik. They won't talk about those connections at all. Demons. Demons. YouTube is heavily. Remnant. Disciple says redacted. I was not stating that in prideful way. Knowing things. All things. Please don't misrepresent what I stated. I was just stating much of what he shared. You start to learn after many years of research. Right. Well, that's what I'm saying. But also, you were the one last week to comment when I mentioned we were having David Icke on the show, and you were saying, but you got to have this other guy on because he knows more than David Icke. Okay, So I know that you know everything or that you think that other people should know as much as you on a particular area, and therefore, we shouldn't have on somebody like David icke, who spent 36 years researching this stuff because there was somebody else out there. So I'm just seeing a pattern here with what you're saying. That's all. So I'm not, you know. Okay. That's all I'm saying. So whether or not you're being prideful or whatever, I'm just saying we can all be a little. We can all show a little humility about things we don't know. And just because you've been researching something for 40 years doesn't mean that everyone who's watching has also done that. Or maybe you know, more than Jay Dyer. And that's amazing. That's. That's also great. And I'm thrilled that you do.

Host 2 (74:16)

Yeah, yeah. But, Rem. I would love to have Fritz on the show. Like, I. That's the thing, as, you know, on my show, like, I'm willing to have anybody on the show who's willing to share their insights and research, you know, but it kind of rubbed me the wrong way, I will admit. Like, one or two weeks ago, I said, you know, we're going to have, you know, David Ike on the show who spent 36 years researching this material and. And arguably one of the most knowledgeable individuals in the world on the subject. And you jumped in and said, no, there's somebody else who's more knowledgeable. Okay. Okay. I appreciate that. There's always going to be someone who has more knowledge. Would love that. Thank you. So we all keep learning more each day. Oh, and someone said, fritz is in jail. Is that true? Fritz is in jail. Okay, well, that might be difficult on the show. I don't know why he's in jail. Someone says, get Dr. Steven Greer on the show again. That's the thing. It's like, again, I get. I get stuck. You know, I've had Dr. Steven Greer on the show multiple times, and. And then I get him on, and people are like, why did you have Stephen Greer on the show? You know, other people, like, have Stephen Greer on the show can't please everyone, you know, can't please everyone. Like, we had Marjorie Taylor Greene on the show. You know, people like, thank you for having Marjorie Taylor Greene on the show. She's a Truth teller. Other people saying, how could, how dare you have Marjorie Taylor Green on the show anyway? It's what makes the world go round, right? Yes. Paper wings. I would love to have Fritz on the, the show for sure. Simon. See, see if we can do that. Be great if he's not in prison. Someone says he's in prison. I, I don't know. Sweet sassy Bell says, what do you do when your spouse doesn't believe you? I mean, on these subject matters, you know what I found where it works really, really well in those situations. Not with my spouse, but, well, sometimes with her because she'll, she'll only focus on like certain stories sometimes in her brain, you know, and you just kind of, kind of have to like drop her videos from time to time. That's I think how that works, you know. So if you've got a spouse who like doesn't believe that Jeffrey Epstein was a pedophile or something like that, maybe share him, like share him videos of this show a little bit like just, you know, slowly or UFO and disclosure. Like if, if. Do you, like, do you know some of those people out there that literally don't believe in aliens? Be like, sorry, that ship has sailed. We now have on the congressional record that we have biologics, we have off world biology and bodies on the congressional record. Like that's not a matter of like I believe in that anymore. Like really, then that person is just being willfully ignorant. So just kind of like slip them some videos, you know, like, hey honey, maybe she watched this video. Watch this.

Host 2 (79:02)

Right. And so it's like, we'll do stories here, and then someone in the chat room will be like, that's a bioweapon. Or that's all a psyop. It's like, okay, maybe, but show me the evidence. You know, I just want the facts. I just want the evidence. I have an agenda, you know, I don't have. I think, you know, all these people are corrupt. I can count on one hand the number of politicians that I have any trust in at all. Most of them are all corrupt. They're all dirty. You know, and when you tell me that, like, this is a bioweapon or this is the agenda, specifically, prove it to me. Just show me the evidence. Show me the evidence that leads to that conclusion, and I'll be right there with you. You know, so, you know, I was kind of willing to believe, at least in part, this idea that Epstein was. His body was swapped out. But now based on evidence, I'm. I'm not. I don't believe that anymore. Based on certain. Certain things which from sources that will probably come to light in the next week or so, I'm not allowed to really talk about it, but I will say that I don't believe that anymore. I believe that he was, in fact, murdered. That's what I've believed all along. And now I've. I. I believe I have confirmation of that. So show me the evidence. You know, I was willing to be open to the idea that according to those FBI documents, there was a van that pulled up and maybe his body was swapped out and these sort of, you know, these sorts of things, but I've seen too much evidence in the other direction to show me that, in fact, he was murdered in that cell. Didn't kill himself, but murdered for sure. But anyway, so just again, show me the evidence. Stephen Greer. Hey, you in our chat, $5 super chat says Stephen Greer will tell you big disclosures coming tomorrow. And then two years later, nothing. In my opinion, he's not trustworthy, to say the least. Yeah, well, I don't know. I mean, he. He really loves to. Loves to talk, that's for sure. And he really loves to. He really loves to talk. He really loves to hear himself as well, which, you know. Hey, does that make him wrong, though? He loves to. To say things.

Host 2 (93:52)

Back to when my mom would be like, so I guess you're not going to mow the lawn then this. This weekend, right? Because she's like, I was doing something with a friend on Saturday morning, and it's like, it's Saturday morning, and I've got the rest of Saturday afternoon and a whole Sunday to mow the lawn and get it and get the job done. So I guess you're just not going to mow the lawn then, this weekend? Yeah, that's my intention to not mow the lawn this weekend because I'm playing with Ben right now. We're playing basketball for an hour. And it used to drive me nuts. Like, I don't know. I can't. You can see it still drives me nuts. Right? Oh, so I guess you're just not gonna. You're not gonna do that today. And I never said that. Don't question my intentions. It's the same with my show. It's like, oh, so your intentions are to push this one kind of a narrative or to do. No, I don't. That's not my intention at all. My intention is to try to cover every angle, right? Try to be open and honest and. And all of that. So I just. I. That drives me nuts. Like, I'll tell you, if you want to just ask me, you could just ask me and I'll tell you the answer. But when people, like, claim that they know your intentions, I just. That stuff drives me nuts. Oh, was it your intention to cut me off when you were merging? It's like, no, I didn't see you. My intention wasn't to hurt your feelings or to, you know. Anyway. Drives me nuts. Thank you guys for subscribing. We have a great show lined up for you tomorrow. We have a really good show lined up for you tomorrow. We are going to go deep with the person who broke the Pizzagate story, the OG they ruined her life because of it. They tried to totally bankrupt her. It's an incredible story. Very excited to speak with Liz Crocan on the show tomorrow about Pizzagate, the OG reporter who broke that story before anybody else. So want to give credit where credit is due on that story. So that's going to be tomorrow here on Redacted. So please subscribe. Please turn on that little bell notification so it'll be notified when we go live. Thank you for being a part of our community Remnant. I love you. I do. And I love all of you guys. Thank you guys so much. We'll see you back here tomorrow at 4:00pm Eastern Time. Have a great night, everyone.