Redacted News Podcast Summary
Episode: "The FBI's Charlie Kirk assassination story has fully collapsed as new details emerge"
Hosts: Clayton & Natali Morris
Date: September 29, 2025
Overview
This episode of Redacted News focuses on the unraveling narrative around the assassination of Charlie Kirk, scrutinizing the official FBI account and highlighting significant inconsistencies. The hosts, Clayton and Natali Morris, conduct in-depth interviews with a former CIA agent and gun expert (Larry Johnson) and investigative reporter Steve Baker, then move to legal commentary on James Comey's indictment with Lionel from "The Lionel Nation." The latter part addresses emerging geopolitical tensions involving Iran, Israel, and US foreign policy, featuring analyst Dave DeCamp. The episode is marked by skepticism toward official narratives, critical analysis, and frequent pushback on media and government transparency.
Main Topics and Key Discussion Points
1. Dissecting the Official Charlie Kirk Assassination Story
[03:57] – [24:27]
Key Points:
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FBI Narrative's Implausibility:
- Official story: Tyler Robinson, a lone shooter, used a .30-06 rifle to assassinate Charlie Kirk, then fled the scene, discarded the weapon, and visited a Dairy Queen (that has since mysteriously disappeared).
- The university immediately renovated the shooting site, obscuring potential forensic evidence.
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Introduction of Former CIA Agent & Gun Trainer Larry Johnson:
- Larry Johnson, an NRA-licensed gun trainer, asserts the FBI story is "100% a lie" and "a complete fabrication" ([06:39]).
- Supported by analysis of actual gunshot physics and inconsistencies in available video evidence.
Expert Critique of Forensic Claims:
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Physical Evidence Disputes:
- The .30-06 rifle round is devastating—Johnson states if it had been used, Kirk’s head would have been "blown off his shoulders, essentially" ([09:54], Johnson).
- The wound lacked expected arterial blood spray; official wound description doesn’t match known ballistics effects ([08:21]).
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Video Evidence Tampering:
- Surveillance footage appears to have been altered: shadows and people in the background vanish frame-to-frame ([08:21], Johnson).
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Possible Alternative Weapon:
- Johnson suggests a 300 Blackout or .223/5.56 round fits the forensic evidence better, due to its cavitation effect and less penetrative power ([11:44]).
- Unusual bleeding pattern and immediate death with neurological response indicate a different kind of injury ([14:39], Johnson).
Questions about Crime Scene Handling:
- Crime Scene Alterations:
- Immediate renovation and lack of proper forensic reconstruction cast doubt on the thoroughness and legitimacy of the investigation ([15:09]).
- Raising Reasonable Doubt:
- Footage and forensics could easily raise reasonable doubt in a legal case, possibly exonerating Tyler Robinson ([16:10]).
Speculation about Political Motives:
- Possible intent behind a public assassination is to "send a political message" or provoke increased government control ([20:06], Johnson).
- US intelligence agencies (CIA, etc.) have a track record of similar covert and manipulative operations, as recounted in historical context ([21:06], Johnson).
Notable Quotes:
- "The official story is 100% a lie." – Larry Johnson ([06:39])
- "If that round that hit Charlie had been a 30-06...his head would have been...unrecognizable." – Larry Johnson ([09:54])
- "The video evidence that's being presented as evidence has clearly been tampered with." – Larry Johnson ([06:39])
- "I don't know if this was a message designed to try to provoke a fight between right and left, to try to create a justification for the government taking more control..." – Larry Johnson ([20:06])
2. January 6: FBI and Federal Agency Infiltration
[27:08] – [39:09]
Key Points:
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Revelation of Embedded Federal Agents:
- New report: 274 FBI agents were embedded within the January 6 crowd, contradicting previous FBI denials ([27:08]).
- Steve Baker and his team at The Blaze document that these agents were not doing visible crowd control or wearing obvious FBI identification.
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Debate over Role and Intent:
- Debate over terms like "embedded" vs. "plainclothes" and whether their intent was to control or incite/instigate unrest.
- Reports suggest no direct evidence agents themselves triggered violence, but the number and ambiguity raise questions ([35:42]).
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Federal Agencies’ Roles:
- Beyond the FBI, personnel from Department of Defense, CIA, and other agencies were confirmed onsite ([37:54]).
- Baker’s reporting trends toward suspicion of Department of Defense involvement in instigation, rather than FBI ([38:29]).
Notable Quotes:
- "Out of the 1,600 cases, ...they've not been able to pin a single bad action on an actual identified FBI agent..." – Steve Baker ([35:45])
- "The people that were suspiciously present...were elements of the Department of Defense. And that's the real story." – Steve Baker ([38:29])
3. James Comey’s Thin Indictment and Justice System Critique
[42:51] – [57:44]
Key Points:
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Comey Indictment Details:
- Comey indicted for allegedly lying to Congress and obstructing justice, but the indictment is <2 pages and vague about specifics ([42:51]).
- Legal analysts criticize the indictment’s thinness and lack of detail, which is likely to fail in court.
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Systemic Corruption Allegations:
- Lionel (guest attorney) argues Comey’s not guilty based on legal definitions of perjury versus actual actions—both he and McCabe deny authorization of the act at issue ([44:05]).
- The hosts and Lionel express frustration over selective and weak prosecutions: Martha Stewart, Roger Stone, and Michael Flynn receive harsher treatment than Comey ([53:09]).
Notable Quotes:
- "He will not only walk, but very well could have this case dismissed before it ever gets to a jury." – Lionel ([44:05])
- "Comey was so right...I don't care who you are...you're not guilty of this." – Lionel ([49:52])
4. Escalating Middle East Tensions: War with Iran & Peace Plans
[62:02] – [76:48]
Key Points:
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Rumors and Preparation for War:
- Russia claims the US and Israel are planning new strikes on Iran; the movement of US Air Force tankers to Europe is noted as a possible precursor ([62:02]).
- Netanyahu ("Bibi") visits DC for a fourth time in eight months, focusing on a Gaza "peace plan" and possible regional agreements.
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Expert Analysis (Dave DeCamp, antiwar.com):
- Snapback sanctions on Iran, reimposed by the UK, France, and Germany, signal the Trump Administration’s lack of interest in diplomacy ([64:55]).
- Russia and China oppose these sanctions at the UN, deepening East-West rifts and drawing regional powers closer.
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Israel-Gaza Ceasefire and Annexation:
- The proposed peace plan prevents Israeli annexation of Gaza but is vague and potentially untenable for Hamas, citing required disarmament ([72:00], DeCamp).
- Israeli internal pressure pushes for formal annexation of the West Bank and further displacement of Palestinians ([69:15]).
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Shifting US Public Opinion:
- Younger Americans, especially Gen Z, increasingly oppose automatic US support for Israel, despite persistent pro-Israel social media propaganda ([75:41]; [76:10]).
Notable Quotes:
- "All signs pointing to a war [with Iran]." – Dave DeCamp ([64:55])
- "Netanyahu is a very transactional person...he’s going to want things in return [for peace gestures]." – Dave DeCamp ([66:41])
- "There's a reckoning happening on the American right, and Israel's really in trouble." – Dave DeCamp ([74:41])
Memorable Moments & Quotes with Timestamps
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On the suspicious crime scene and wound:
- "His body stopped it because he had superhuman bones, essentially?" – Natali Morris ([09:54])
- "Zero...the bullet they found was not a .30-06 round." – Larry Johnson ([10:18])
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On government cover-up and manipulation:
- "They’re almost doing this badly on purpose..." – Natali ([17:19])
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On social media and information war:
- "Netanyahu meeting with influencers...using social media as a weapon." – Dave DeCamp ([75:08])
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On generational shifts:
- "They know that the algorithm has been compromised, right? How are they going to reach [young people]?" – Redacted panel ([79:09])
Timestamps for Key Segments
| Topic/Guest | Time Range | |----------------------------------------|---------------| | Critique of FBI Kirk Assassination | 03:57 – 24:27 | | January 6th Federal Agent Report (Baker)| 27:08 – 39:09 | | James Comey Indictment (Lionel) | 42:51 – 57:44 | | Middle East – Iran/Israel Analysis | 62:02 – 76:48 |
Episode Tone and Style
- Tone: Persistent skepticism, critical of mainstream and official narratives, irreverent humor (especially legal discussion with Lionel), urgency in geopolitical segments.
- Language: Conversational, occasionally sardonic, highlighting distrust of "mainstream media" and government agencies.
- Engagement: Repeated calls for audience awareness, referencing both mainstream bias and grassroots investigative work.
Summary Conclusion
This episode offers a detailed, critical examination of recent major news stories—especially the assassination of Charlie Kirk, government infiltration on January 6, legal maneuvering around James Comey, and the looming threat of escalated war with Iran. Through expert interviews and sharp analysis, Redacted News exposes perceived inconsistencies, questionable investigative practices, and the maneuvering of both government agencies and global powers. The show urges listeners to challenge mainstream narratives and seek deeper truth amid propaganda and institutional failures.
