Podcast Episode Summary

Podcast: Redacted News

Hosts: Clayton Morris & Natali Morris
Guest: Darcy Weir (Documentary filmmaker)
Episode: "The TRUTH behind the Secret Space Program and Alien Recovery is starting to come out"
Date: January 20, 2026

Overview

In this engaging episode, Clayton Morris interviews filmmaker Darcy Weir about the escalating controversies within the UFO community, with a focus on the so-called "Secret Space Program" (SSP), fraudulent alien recovery stories, and the new wave of disinformation campaigns muddying the waters of UFO and alien disclosure. Darcy discusses his latest documentary, "Dark Alliance: The Next Generation," which investigates the current chaos and manipulation in the field, exposing both charlatans and the negative impact of manufactured narratives. The conversation critically examines the rise of self-proclaimed "space heroes," the role of entertainment platforms like Gaia TV, and the challenges of distinguishing credible whistleblowers from grifters, all against the backdrop of increasing online disinformation.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. A Shift in the UFO Community’s Power Dynamics

• Chaos and Manipulation: The UFO and disclosure movements are in turmoil, with a wave of “new self-proclaimed space heroes” seeking control of the narrative ([01:37], Clay).
• Darcy Weir’s Documentary: His film “Dark Alliance: The Next Generation” addresses the infiltration of the community by non-credible figures and the injection of “fantasy” stories that overtake genuine research ([13:49], Darcy Weir).

2. Rise (and Implosion) of the Secret Space Program Narrative

• Origins & Claims: The SSP tale was popularized by figures like Randy Kramer, Corey Goode, and David Wilcock, featuring wild stories of super soldiers, age reversal, and space missions with no physical evidence ([24:39], Darcy Weir).
• 20 and Back: Central to the mythos is the "20 and back" idea—a claim that individuals serve 20 years in secret space missions before memory-wiping and age regression ([09:22], Darcy Weir; [24:39], Darcy Weir).
• Gaia TV’s Role: Gaia (an entertainment platform) was instrumental in amplifying these personalities for profit, but failed to provide critical disclaimers, leading audiences to take fiction as fact ([13:49-15:30], Clay & Darcy).
• Legal Fallout: Corey Goode, a prime SSP claimant, admitted under oath that his stories were fabricated and “meditative,” currently embroiled in lawsuits over intellectual property ([18:47], Darcy Weir).

3. Disinformation, Bots, and Social Media Warfare

• The Age of Disinformation: The real struggle is distinguishing truth in a landscape dominated by bots, social manipulation, and government/organizational campaigns ([32:40], Clay; [34:22], Darcy Weir).
• Example—the Nazca Mummies: Promoted as alien remains, these were debunked as hoaxes using modified human and animal bones, yet continue to circulate due to influencer amplification and bot-driven discourse ([34:22-38:23], Darcy Weir).
• Mirage Men Strategy: There’s a deliberate flood of fake stories (e.g., fake alien bodies) to discredit and distract from genuine UFO/alien evidence ([40:33], Clay).

4. Credibility, Whistleblowers, and Mainstream Disclosure

• Lost Amid the Noise: Real whistleblowers (who have suffered genuine consequences) are overshadowed by more dramatic, unverified claims ([24:05], Clay).
• Mainstream Movement: Despite obstructions, credible evidence (e.g., mass eyewitness sightings, government records) still comes forward but is slow to shift the public narrative ([26:22-27:35], Darcy Weir).
• Progress or Stagnation?: While congressional interest is growing, most lawmakers remain underinformed, and any move towards official disclosure is met by equally sophisticated disinformation ([49:22-50:30], Darcy Weir).

5. Community Fissures and Factionalism

• Vitriolic infighting—especially on social media—creates “camps” within ufology, further complicating the path to truth ([06:22], Darcy Weir).
• Darcy proposes that a “truth tax” is levied on those who attempt to challenge or debunk popular (but baseless) narratives in the community ([06:22], Darcy Weir).

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

“There are people that enter this space ready to launch a certain Persona, a certain story and take advantage of people’s naivete and ... lack of discernment.”
— Darcy Weir ([06:22])

“These are legal proceedings. [Corey Goode] made this story up. He never went to space physically … It was a sort of meditative process and a creative endeavor. And he’s trying to sell that in comic books and documentary movies.”
— Darcy Weir ([18:47])

“There's people's real lives being affected by this stuff. And I think the fantasy doesn't have to dominate the conversation— or even really be part of it. But here we are … I think it's the age of disinformation.”
— Darcy Weir ([30:24])

“I think you don’t even need the Men in Black to contain a story. You just need bots.”
— Darcy Weir ([34:22])

“Fake bodies with missing thumbs … all of this stuff to make everyone seem like they’re crazy and they’re conspiracy theorists. ... It was literally like a CIA program to do it, right? Of disinformation.”
— Clay ([40:33])

“I am challenging a bit of that … We can’t just believe everything blindly. Right? With this 20 and back narrative. There’s no proof. None.”
— Darcy Weir ([27:37])

“How do we, how do we find out what’s, what’s true? ... Now you have to go back into history before we had all of these things. And you look at the testimony of people on their deathbed … projects, these reverse engineering projects they were working on … So frustrating ... About this disclosure, do you think we're any closer to disclosure or are we moving further away from it?”
— Clay ([48:36])

“I think we’re going to move lockstep with disinformation as we go forward.”
— Darcy Weir ([49:22])

Important Segment Timestamps

• [01:37] — Episode theme set: Power struggles and chaos in UFO/SSP community
• [05:47] — Introduction of guest Darcy Weir, the impact of online factionalism
• [09:22] — Darcy outlines his belief in a secret space program but questions the "fantasy" claims
• [13:49] — Discussion of Gaia TV’s role in popularizing unverified stories
• [18:47] — Details on Corey Goode’s legal admissions and damage to the field
• [24:39] — Explaining the “20 and back” mythos’ origins with Randy Kramer
• [32:40] — "Age of Disinformation," manipulation of public perception, international context
• [34:22] — Nazca Mummies as a hoax and the mechanics of bot-driven viral disinformation
• [40:33] — Mirage Men, intentional hoaxes to discredit real discoveries
• [49:22] — Prospects for disclosure and the challenge of congressional ignorance

Tone and Language

• Respectful, analytical, and direct: The hosts and guest maintain a critical but fair tone, expressing frustration with disinformation and emphasizing transparency and healthy skepticism.
• Candid admissions: Both Clayton and Darcy disclose their past industry interactions for transparency.
• Engaged, concerned: The conversation demonstrates deep personal and professional investment in the topic, particularly the need to protect authentic research and open dialogue.

Conclusion

This episode of Redacted News offers a thoughtful and critical examination of the UFO community’s internal struggles, the dangers of disinformation, and the challenge of pursuing real disclosure in an environment awash with both genuine whistleblowers and manipulative actors. Darcy Weir and Clayton Morris emphasize the necessity of discernment, fact-based discussion, and caution against the seductive allure of unproven narratives, encouraging listeners to question and verify, especially in an era where lies travel faster than the truth.

Recommended Viewing

• Darcy Weir’s new documentary: Dark Alliance: The Next Generation (Available on Apple TV—as of this episode)
• Past works: Search "Darcy Weir" on Tubi TV, Amazon Prime, or visit oakcoatjourneys.com