Podcast Summary: Redacted News

Episode: "They are HIDING the Epstein files on purpose, DOJ and Pam Bondi"
Hosts: Clayton and Natali Morris
Date: January 30, 2026

Episode Overview

This episode of Redacted News dives deep into the Department of Justice’s (DOJ) continued delay in releasing the Jeffrey Epstein files, questioning the government’s transparency and motives. With guest Shannon Joy, the hosts discuss allegations of institutional cover-ups, bipartisan complicity, and the widespread impact of the Epstein scandal, including its ties to high-profile figures and potential blackmail networks.

The episode also covers two additional major stories: concerns about Chinese "birth tourism" and the long-term implications for U.S. elections, and the growing Alberta separatist movement in Canada. At the close, there is an in-depth analysis of U.S. dollar decline, surging precious metals, and financial system vulnerabilities.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. DOJ Delays on Epstein Files and Demands for Transparency

• Topic Introduction ([03:50]): Clayton sets the stage on the DOJ’s recent court filing, citing unfamiliarity and painstaking review as reasons for the Epstein files’ delayed release, despite congressional mandates.
• Guest: Shannon Joy (Shannon Joy Show) joins for analysis.

DOJ’s Stalling Tactics and Public Outrage

• Shannon Joy: “It’s a big giant middle finger in the faces of all of the Epstein survivors, the people advocating for the Epstein survivors…obvious that they can release these documents. They’re being even more evasive, they’re being even more vague with the wording and it’s just absolutely offensive.” ([05:32])
• DOJ claims it's unfamiliar work, contradicting its previous handling of these materials during Maxwell and Epstein prosecutions.

Institutional Complicity and the Trump Administration

• Shannon critiques not just DOJ and Pam Bondi but also the Trump administration’s role:
  • “My question is, when does the buck stop with Trump? Because he has a notorious history of running cover for and protecting sexual abusers…a long list.” ([05:32-09:01])
  • Points to rewarded allies (e.g., Alex Acosta) and Trump’s own allegations.
• Clayton: “At some point also, we have to ask questions. Trump calling up the DOJ and saying, hey, wait a second…they’ve been in your servers. It’s not like you discovered a box of things.” ([09:01])

Occam’s Razor and Blackmail Dynamics

• Hosts agree DOJ is protecting interests beyond the victims, possibly to shelter a broader criminal network:
  • Clayton: “Isn’t it just Occam’s Razor then? At the end of the day…they are actively trying to hide it, right?…they’re protecting these child predators.” ([10:01])
• Shannon highlights the broader web: “This scandal indicts so many aspects of Washington, D.C.…weapons trafficking, money laundering, sex trafficking, organ trafficking…on behalf of this very dark and powerful cartel of people that run things today.” ([10:43])
• “[Epstein] files are everything, they point to almost everything.” ([13:46])

Bipartisan Corruption & Systemic Failure

• Shannon emphasizes that both parties, corporate elites, and global actors are implicated.
• Notable mention of Mossad, international espionage, and use of blackmail at the highest levels ([13:20-13:46]).
• Shannon: “It’s a criminal cartel, a criminal operation, and it indicts Trump as fully embedded in and participating with and protecting the very deep state that his supporters believe he is fighting. That’s the takeaway.” ([12:17])

Audience Pushback & “Trusting the Process” Satire

• Responding to live chat claims of “Trump Derangement Syndrome,” both Shannon and the hosts deride the notion that Trump is uninvolved or will change course.
  • Shannon: “Trust the plan, baby…12 dimensional chess right off a cliff…This president is the one who’s out there calling it a hoax. This president is the one who’s out there currently expanding his roster of sex traffickers and pedophiles who he would like to protect with Andrew and Tristan Tate.” ([16:55-17:58])
• Clayton positions blame on all recent administrations: “The Biden DOJ protected Epstein too. Same with Obama and Bush.” ([18:55])

Legislative and Investigative Hurdles

• Discussion on efforts by Thomas Massie and Ro Khanna, skepticism over the possibility of true transparency coming from inside Washington.
• Shannon: “I think it’s completely derailed…some of the most clarity that we’ve seen in this case has come from state actions.” ([15:25])

2. Birthright Citizenship “Scam” and Chinese Influence

([23:24–37:04])

Chinese “Birth Tourism” as National Security Issue

• Hosts introduce reporting by Peter Schweitzer and interview former US attorney Michael Nguyen.
• Key Stats:
  • CCP encourages party elites to have children in the U.S. for citizenship.
  • 100,000 Chinese “anchor babies” annually, now over a million raised in China but eligible to vote and access privileges in the U.S. at 18. ([24:41])
• Michael Nguyen: "The likelihood of most of these anchor babies…ever being pursued for taxes is de minimis. The larger concern is the long-term impact. The Chinese...look at the longer run. This is a 20 to 30 year at least horizon." ([26:58])

Security, Legal, and Policy Implications

• U.S.-born children can grant family residency, access federal benefits, and potentially be influences (“indoctrinated”) within U.S. systems.
• Medicaid/Medicare fraud and “maternity hotels” supporting the practice.
• Legislative efforts in Congress (Massie, Babin) and upcoming Supreme Court cases, but solutions remain elusive—constitutional amendment would be the “clearest way.” ([33:37])

Strategic Pressure & Undermining American Culture

• Nguyen: “The goal is to subvert the American culture that we’ve grown accustomed to…displacing a segment of the population with young adults who’ve been indoctrinated in the Chinese system.” ([32:14])

3. Alberta Separatism, Canadian Politics, and U.S. Involvement

([40:17–48:25])

Alberta’s Push for Independence

• Alberta group allegedly meets with Trump administration to discuss separation from Canada.
• British Columbia Premier David Eby on the move: “To go to a foreign country and to ask for assistance in breaking up Canada, there’s an old-fashioned word for that, and that word is treason.” ([41:11])
• Provincial law in Canada allows for such separatist movements, contrary to Eby’s outrage.

Regional Tensions, Economic Stakes

• Alberta’s significant financial contributions to Ottawa ($244 billion since 2007) fuel resentment over “subsidizing the rest of Canada.”
• Speculation about possible models of independence or even U.S. state-like status.
• Hosts draw U.S. parallels with regional political divides (e.g., upstate NY vs. NYC).

4. Financial Collapse, Precious Metals Surge, & Systemic Risks

([48:26–73:06])

U.S. Dollar Decline and the Rome Parallel

• Interview with Kevin DeMeritt (Lear Capital) covers:
  • Deficits and debt larger than the U.S. GDP.
  • Historic cycle of reserve currency collapse due to debt (“they all lasted about 100 years, and they all came to an end for the same reason—debts, debt and deficits.” ([52:33]))
  • Parallels to Rome’s military overextension and fall.

Surging Gold and Silver, Changing Global Trust

• Silver price explosion ($100–$130+/oz), central banks moving to gold.
• Foreigners dumping U.S. reserves triggers inflation and further devaluation.
• Inflation, volatility, and long-term security in precious metals.

Skepticism Toward “AI as Savior”

• Brief discussion on Ken Griffin (Citadel) remarks at Davos: “Will AI create the productivity acceleration…needed to overcome the profligate spending that we’re currently engaged in? The world needs a savior and the hope is that AI is the savior that we need for productivity.” ([57:16])
• Hosts are skeptical; see AI as potential for displacement, not salvation.

Final Takeaways

• Long-term holding of precious metals recommended as a hedge against collapse and inflation.
• “Currencies don’t die suddenly…they die quietly through debt dilution and loss of trust.” ([61:57])

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Shannon Joy ([05:32]): “When does the buck stop with Trump?…He has a notorious history of running cover for and protecting sexual abusers…It's a long list of Trump's administration, amazingly, running cover for these sexual predators.”
• Clayton ([09:01]): “Trump calling up the DOJ and saying, hey, wait a second, you clowns are telling us now, you need to review these documents. They’ve been in your servers. It’s not like you discovered a box of things…These are on servers that they all have access to.”
• Shannon Joy ([10:43]): “This scandal indicts so many aspects of Washington, D.C.…weapons trafficking, money laundering, sex trafficking, organ trafficking.”
• Peter Schweitzer (clip) ([24:41]): “China has an industrial scale model…Roughly 100,000 Chinese babies have been born in the United States who are then brought back to China where they are being raised…That’s more than a million U.S. citizens…When they turn 18…they’re going to be able to vote.”
• Michael Nguyen ([32:14]): “The goal is to subvert the American culture that we've grown accustomed to…displacing a segment of the population with young adults who’ve been indoctrinated in the Chinese system.”
• Premier David Eby ([41:11]): “To go to a foreign country and to ask for assistance in breaking up Canada…that word is treason.”
• Kevin DeMeritt ([52:33]): “The national debt is now larger than the entire US economy. At some point, confidence erodes when a country can’t realistically repay what it owes without printing money. And that's where we are.”

Timestamps for Major Segments

• Epstein Files/DOJ Stonewalling: 03:50 – 20:00
• Birthright Citizenship & Chinese Influence: 23:24 – 37:04
• Alberta Separatism & Canadian Politics: 40:17 – 48:25
• US Dollar, Gold/Silver, Financial System: 48:26 – 73:06

Episode Tone

The episode maintains a tone of urgent skepticism and investigative grit, marked by biting satire, exasperation over institutional failures, and a persistent demand for transparency and accountability. Guest Shannon Joy’s contributions are especially sharp and confrontational regarding both major party leaders and entrenched bureaucracies.

Summary Takeaway

Redacted News uses the Epstein files as a lens to explore broader government failures, bipartisan elite cover-ups, and the erosion of public trust. The episode weaves together legal, geopolitical, and financial threats—Chinese “birthright” influence, Canadian separatism, and currency collapse—arguing that systemic corruption and a lack of transparency are driving the United States and its allies into accelerating crisis. The hosts urge long-term financial self-reliance and continued public pressure for the truth.