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Clayton Morris
Welcome everybody to Redacted on this Monday. I'm Clayton Morris. So glad to have you here on this show. We cover the stories the mainstream media largely redacts and covers up and hides behind. We try to navigate through all of this propaganda stories that they won't touch. Welcome in. Thank you guys so much for joining us on this Monday. Natalie is off today. She's not feeling well. I think she's down and out with pneumonia, like what my daughter has. So they've just been too miserable. My oldest daughter and my wife like miserable together on the couch. So anyway, she sends her regards but she will not be here today. But we've got plenty of guests and news for you to get through today. So we're going to talk about this domestic terrorism ramping up there. Not only attacks on Tesla stores and storefronts and Teslas and now Republican headquarters in New Mexico. We're going to talk about that, what the FBI is doing about that. We also got a huge update on the pyramid story over the past 24 hours. Yes, the Ghost Giza plateau is even holding more and more secrets. We're going to talk about that story. We're also going to talk about bombing Iran. Now, you'll recall like a week ago Tulsi Gabbard in front of Congress said that Iran has no plans for a nuclear weapon. This is the her. Trump administration's head of intelligence said that. Then yesterday, President Trump basically doubles down and says we're going to bomb you to smithereens if you don't come to a nuclear agreement, nuclear treaty on. So we're going to get to the bottom of that today on the show. And we're also going to talk about who is running things. You know, we talk about the deep state, we talk about the cabal, we talk about secret groups like the Freemasons, maybe it's the Jesuits. Who else could be running things? Derek Bros is going to be joining us because he's been putting putting together like a 16, almost 17 part docu series on the pyramid of power, interviewing people around the world about who's actually running things in our government. We're going to talk to Derek at the end of today's show. So good to see everyone today. Let me know where you're joining us from. We are streaming live on Rumble, which is our free speech platform. We're also streaming live on YouTube X and Twitch. Any other places we're streaming. David, these days I don't, I can't keep a track. So it's a testosterone Monday here I said Rumble. Yeah, I said Rumble. Of course, Rumble. Yeah, we're live on Rumble. Got thousands of you watching us now on Rumble. Good to see all of you. And of course, yeah, YouTube X Twitch can't keep track of all the places. So anyway, Philip is here, David is here. We're gonna get into all of the news here in a second. We're gonna talk about these pyramids, we're gonna talk about the domestic terrorism and so much more. But first, gold price indicators today. Zero hedge targeting gold prices hitting $3,500 an ounce. Now, I know with also I want to get an update, by the way, what the hell's happening with the Fort Knox gold situation? Like, remember, we're hearing all about that. President Trump's supposed to go there. Elon Musk is going to go there. They're going to live stream the whole thing. Now it's crickets. Like, what's going on with the gold at Fort Knox? Like, does anyone know? Is it still there? Are they rushing to try to put it all back before he arrives there, before we actually do an audit and find out how much gold is sitting in Fort Knox? I don't know. Nevertheless, if President Trump finds that there's not enough gold in Fort Knox, what does that do to gold prices? According to the experts we've spoken to through the roof. What if President Trump decides to recapitalize, re change the actual price of gold? Because right now it's valued at like $42 an ounce. Sitting there in Fort Knox actually putting it up to $5,000 an ounce. That has been floated by the Trump administration as well. So all of these reasons are pointing to a gold and silver surge right now. S silver hitting a 13 year high just the other day and gold now hitting a new all time high and on its way to $3,500 an ounce. So our friends over at Lear Capital sponsoring today's show, they can actually help you get set up and investing in gold. They actually have a new $4,200 gold report which you can check out by going to their website. Just go to learredacted.com they're an American company. They'll help you get set up investing in gold and silver, precious metals delivered right to your door. You can put them in a your own gun safe if you want to or you can store them off site in a facility. And they're an education company. 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So here's your big update now out of Egypt and it and just made this mysterious Giza discovery from last week. Way more real. Now, remember that controversial claim last week about a massive hidden underground city beneath the Great Pyramid? Well, the research team behind it just dropped a major bombshell. They say they found a sealed sarcophagus buried deep beneath the pyramids complex. Yes, a literal stone sarcophagus untouched and hidden for possibly thousands of years. According to reports from the Daily Mail, scientists used high frequency electromagnetic and ground penetrating radar to scan beneath the pyramid surface. And what showed up was stunning, was a massive chamber underneath there made of stone tucked inside one of the newly identified chambers. Look at this. So the, you know, it's kind of hard to see from these drawings, but they know what they're looking at. Massive chamber down there, that massive stone sarcophagus. Here's some sort of artist renderings here so you can see a little bit more and understand what this is showing. Now, to be clear, no one has opened this sarcophagus yet, but the team says the object strongly resembles a sarcophagus and its positioning inside what they believe is a ceremonial or burial chamber. So archaeologists, of course, are freaking out about it right now. But like battle lines are being drawn, you know, because it's so stunning to see the machining on some of these blocks and specifically perhaps the sarcophagus, which is perfectly machined, according to experts, that we even have like laser cutting machines today that can't do as well as some of these stones have been perfectly cut. I don't know how many of you have been to Egypt and you Stand there and look at there and you actually look at this. Being able to slide a credit card in between one of these stones, you can't do it. It's unbelievable. And here's where it gets even more fascinating and controversial because the team still believes this site may be tied to the legendary hall of Records, the mythical archive that is said to house ancient knowledge, possibly from Atlantis or even earlier civilizations. Of course, that's been the stuff of mystery books, right? And conspiracies, conspiracy theories for decades. And now it's like all coming crashing right into, you know, mainstream headlines right now. But not everyone's on board about this, of course. Dr. Ziha Hawass, who's Egypt's former Minister of Antiquities, continues to slam the finding. He's doubling down, calling the research nonsense and accusing the scientists of misusing radar technology. He insists there is no city underneath. You don't need to go looking. There's no city, massive underground city here. Despite what those radar scans show. Nothing to see here. No chambers, no nothing. Nothing hidden and certainly not a missing and hidden sarcophagus under the Great Pyramid. So stop looking. Stop using your ground penetrating radar to show these giant chambers. Now, when I was in Egypt last year, look, I look like Indiana Jones here.
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David
I don't know, I don't think Indiana Jones wore a garden hat.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah, he's like, yeah, if I hadn't left the house in two years, like, that's, that's the Indiana Jones I look like in that one. Anyway, so when I was there, you know, they, the Egyptian tour guides will go to great lengths to tell you that Egypt had no friends at all helping them build the pyramids, that they did it all by themselves. No. No aliens, no Anunnaki, nothing. The Egyptians did it all by themselves. That's what you'll hear from Egyptian tour guides. So very proud, of course, of these. Still, they can't produce any signs of having used any kind of cranes or anything like that at all. But okay. Still, the images and scans are compelling and the scientists are now pushing for excavation, which would be the first real test of whether there's scientific gold here or just more modern day myth chasing. I don't know if the government's going to allow them to actually dig under this.
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Natalie
Yeah, nope, I was going to say, because Zay Hawass, I know he's no longer in charge, but I mean, he's got a lot of influence and he's not going to be all about it. I mean, he's, he's very Kind of anti excavation. So I doubt, I doubt we'll see it, but it would be interesting.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah, it certainly would. But they, they want to protect that myth that it was just the Egyptian people with their hands and ropes and camels built the pyramids. That's what they'll tell you. I mean, they'll tell you, you know, in recent years. Well, they found the excavation site where, you know, where the workers lived. Like. Yep. All of the workers, like, spent every night here in their village, here in the, in, in, you know, in this area. They went and worked on the sphinx, they went and worked on the pyramids, came back and slept. And it was a very busy working village. And that's that. That's who built it. That's it.
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David
Well, and also, like, it's a story. It's such like, chisels and stuff that are more accurate than what we could do today. Like precision. You know what I mean? Like the, the precision is so, like you said you couldn't even get a credit card in there. Like, we can't replicate it today with like even lasers and anything that we have freaking lasers.
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Clayton Morris
We can't do it. It was magic people saying in the chat, pre Egyptian construction. Yeah. Anyway, I'm fascinated by. We'll see more about this. I'm interested to see if we'll get an excavation. All right, more news. So this just happened. The Republican party headquarters in Albuquerque, New Mexico was intentionally torched in what looks like a politically motivated arson attack. I mean, to my mind, make no mistake about it, this is domestic terrorism. I mean, you're trying to send a political message and you're trying to intimidate, scare, harass, and hurt people. So investigators probing a fire at Republicans New Mexico headquarters the group says is arson. So the group says it's arson. I love how CNN just like couches it that way. The group says it's arson. Okay, can you get somebody at least on the record, maybe from the fire department or from the police department? Clear. Clearly it's arson. DC Drano received exclusive photos from it showing that their headquarters in Albuquerque was firebombed last night. This was a deliberate act of domestic terrorism, he writes. The culprits spray painted ice equals kkk. Let the federal crackdown begin, he writes. Notice, by the way, that these photos, it's right there, you can clearly see it on the building. Ice equals kkk. And CNN leaves that out of their coverage. That funny how CNN just deliberately omits things. That's why we say that how the mainstream media lies to you it's, they lie to you through omission. That's the way that they lie to you, by omitting certain key pieces of a story. And if that wasn't disturbing enough, the attackers spray painted this, you know, all over the place on the side of the building. And basically somehow trying to claim that ICE is synonymous with the kkk. Forgetting of course, that Democrats are synonymous with the kkk. They don't like to bring that part up of their history at all because it really, you know, upsets them for you to call out and point out the fact that KKK and Democrats were like really one in the same. Some of their famed Democrats, like Robert Byrd of West Virginia even has like highways named after him, KKK member. But don't, don't bring that up. You know, you're, you're a racist. I don't know, they'll call you something if you bring that up. So let that sink in. This wasn't a protest. This wasn't civil disobedience. This was an act of political violence. Straight up domestic terrorism right here on American soil. Fire crews got there, thankfully no one was hurt, but the damage is still serious. The front of the entrance totally burned. The inside, you know, smoke damage. And, you know, it's clear, like if you're on the right, then you're fair game. You're fair game for them to attack you, it seems. Now here's the part of the story that really pisses me off, you know, and again, where the mainstream media totally leaves out that part of the story, the KKK thing, you know, I talked about the CNN angle, but I went to multiple left wing news outlets. There's no mention of the KKK equals ICE stuff being spray painted here at all. Not that they mention it. I mean, they talked about, you know, Black Lives Matter protests were just mostly, mostly harmless. Right? They're mostly peaceful protests. Talk to the people of Portland about all the businesses that are still burned out and destroyed in Portland. Mostly peaceful protests, right? So just this weekend, again, you're not hearing anything from the Democrats on this at all. And it'd be great if they were to come out and totally condemn this violence. Call on liberals across the country to stop, you know, firebombing Tesla dealerships and stuff, stop attacking people's Teslas, stop defacing them, smashing into them, scratching them, lighting them on fire. They're quiet on this. In fact, just this weekend, New Mexico Congresswoman Teresa Lego Fernandez gave a speech in Santa Fe telling her audience just to go out there and agitate she said, quote, we have a three pronged project. Legislate, litigate, and agitate. And you guys are part of the agitate part, she said, so go out there, you know, I guess burn down places, set fire to places, graffiti to places, agitate. Because to me, like, when you guys think about agitate, like, what do you guys think? Agitate. Like, is it just to hold up signs? When you're agitating somebody, you're. You're. You're bothering them. Like, it's the goal of bothering them, right?
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Natalie
Yeah, to make them uncomfortable.
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David
Agitating in a washer, it's like.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah, it's exactly. Physically. That's physical agitation. Go out and agitate. What did you say, Philip? It was. Oh, to make.
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Natalie
To make them uncomfortable.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah.
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Natalie
So that there is no solace.
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Clayton Morris
So a lot of these Tesla vandals are being caught on camera. They're too dumb to realize that. Of course, Teslas have lots of cameras, right? But also, the Internet has been doing a great job of catching these people, and now they're being prosecuted. Like, this guy. This guy thought it, you know, he'd jump out of his own car, and then he would vandalize, and therefore. And also, I think, allegedly keying swastika in the. In the side of a Tesla. Well, when the owner managed to, like, track him down using, I guess, facial recognition technology on Facebook was able to track the guy down. Locals figured out who this guy was, and he was able to confront him. They called police. I guess he's, you know, now being arrested as a result. But when he was confronted with this, he melted like a little snowflake watch. Free service, you know?
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Philip
Free service. How about you pay for the repairs? Write a check. You just bought a test.
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Clayton Morris
I can wipe it off. No, no, it's not.
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Philip
No. It is a hate crime, sir. It is a hate crime. Did you write a swastika on there?
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Clayton Morris
Sorry, you're upset.
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Philip
Did you write a swastika?
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Clayton Morris
It didn't even work. Apparently it doesn't.
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Philip
Did you write a swastika on the. It's a key, sir. We see it on the video. Did you. Is it a swastika?
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Derek Bros
Putting my keys.
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Philip
Is it a swastika?
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Clayton Morris
Have you looked at your. Is there a key?
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Philip
Yes. Is it a swastika? It's at the police right now. It's being fingerprinted.
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Clayton Morris
What do you mean it's being fingerprinted?
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Philip
Because they. They're trying to track you down. Thankfully, Facebook tracked you down, so your business, your freaking livelihood, everything. Now because you chose to write A so through. Tell Facebook that you're sorry for writing a swastika on a Tesla.
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Clayton Morris
Listen, I said I'm sorry for what? And I apologize. I have nothing against your car, and.
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Derek Bros
I have nothing against you.
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Philip
So why would you write a swastika on Tesla?
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Clayton Morris
Obviously, I have something against Elon Musk.
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Derek Bros
But that's not the way owns that car.
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Clayton Morris
Because it was paid for.
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Philip
It was so. It was bought and paid for a long time ago.
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Clayton Morris
That's why it's misguided. So now that he's caught, I have nothing against you. I have nothing against the car. Obviously, I have something against Elon Musk because he's a Nazi. And I love this idea of using the term Nazi to describe someone who's trying to remove government waste, fraud, and abuse. Like, how are we connecting these things? Again, I heard protesters who were out on the streets protesting Elon Musk being asked, you know why they're protesting Elon Musk? He said, because he's ruining our government. He's destroying democracy. Okay, is he ruining our government? He just found millions of Social Security numbers that were being used by illegal aliens. He's found tens of billions of dollars in waste, fraud, and abuse that we're now cutting out of our government. So they're upset that they're. What? What exactly what part of government are you upset that he's finding this? Waste, fraud, and abuse. But they can't answer that, so they'd rather just torch Tesla dealerships. And it's not working for them. New poll out in the past 48 hours shows that Democrats have their lowest approval rating in modern history, 29%. So I guess this idea of, like, burning Tesla dealerships is not working out for you, or burning, you know, Republican Party headquarters is also not working out for you. Anyway, Cash Patel. The FBI says they have a task force assigned to this. This is domestic terrorism to them. And, you know, we have to defend political speech and. Or we lose it for everybody, I think. All right, I want to get to this story. The New York Times this weekend ran a massive deep dive story on what they're calling the secret history of the war in Ukraine. Story is going viral for all the wrong reasons. This is the untold story of America's hidden role in Ukrainian military operations against Russia's invading armies. There's just one problem with this article. The New York Times is finally admitting it. Basically, after three years of gaslighting the American people, lying to all of you, they're suddenly breaking a story, a story we've been reporting since day one here on this show that the U.S. is basically running the war in Ukraine. John McClain has something to say about that.
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Colonel Rob Manus
Welcome to the party, pal.
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Clayton Morris
I mean, there's nothing secret about anything they revealed in this article. Redacted, reported on this years ago, and covered the deep US Involvement in Ukraine right at the start of the war. But let's go through this massive article and we will sort of summarize it for you so you don't have to read it.
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David
And got suspended, by the way, for talking about it.
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Clayton Morris
Oh, yeah, we got suspended for telling you what they're saying in this article. How intelligence, strategy, and ally and American officials were involved in the planning and technology under the Biden administration in Ukraine. Every hit, every bomb, every missile that was fired came from American coordination. Duh. So I love this new secret history. Within just two months of the Russian invasion, Ukrainian generals were whisked off to US bases in Germany, dressed in plain clothes, using unmarked vans to plan the war. American commanders are calling the shots from Germany, managing targeting, data surveillance and strategic operations like it's our war. Because, let's be real, it is. They're admitting it, that it's our war. Right there in the New York Times. All this while Biden and his team kept telling us that we're not involved. We have nothing to do with this. We're not involved. We don't know what the Ukrainian targets are. They're hitting. That was a lie. Biden and Corinne Jean Pierre, his White House press spokesperson, his Secretary of defense, all of them were lying to you. Shocking. So here are some key takeaways. The Biden White House misled the public. We're not just helping Ukraine. We were coordinating the entire war effort. And it was a total disaster. Like, it's one thing to be like, hey, we were coordinating everything. It was a disaster. They lost all of Eastern Ukraine with us coordinating it. Us, Our missiles are coordinating, and they keep losing. I mean, think about the battle of Kursk. They lost an entire elite Ukrainian unit over the past couple of weeks. Russia just wiped them out. Gone. We helped them. We've wiped out millions of Ukrainians. That's. That was what our help was at the heart of it. There's no congressional approval for this kind of deep military involvement. Zero. That's another key takeaway from this. So the Congress didn't approve any of it. We basically ran a full war, and Congress didn't vote on it or have any say in it whatsoever. And another key takeaway. The risk of dragging America into a Full war with nuclear armed Russia is now higher than ever. So the New York Times is admitting, like we're on the brink of nuclear war. Here's zero hedges analysis of this. But New York Times investigation reveals that America was woven into the war from more far more intimately and broadly than previously understood. At critical moments, the partnership was the backbone of the Ukrainian military operations that by US counts have killed or wounded more than 700,000 Russian soldiers. That number is a lie. Ukraine has put its casualty toll at only 435,000, which is hilarious. Okay, Right. So even their numbers are. Anyway, it's all fake. It's all fake. A vast American intelligence collection effort both guided big picture battle strategy and funneled precise targeting information down to Ukrainian soldiers in the field. So yeah, welcome to the party, pal. New York Times, you're only three years late, but thanks for all the gaslighting and lies for the past three years. Let's go to the Senate now. Senate right now, hearing arguments pushing for the passage of the highly anti free speech it's called Anti Semitism Awareness act and they're pushing Congress to adopt the IHRA's definition of antisemitism. So just so we're clear, the IRHA definition of anti Semitism is as follows, and I'm going to quote it now. Antisemitism is a certain perception of Jews which may be expressed as hatred towards Jews. Rhetorical and physical manifestations of anti Semitism are directed towards Jewish or non Jewish individuals and their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities. So one of the rabbis, Shem Toy there, told the senators that the federal government must pass the Anti Free Speech Anti Semitism Awareness act and that universities that tolerate anti Semitic harassment must face real consequences. Listen.
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Rabbi
The federal government must take urgent steps to address this crisis. The anticipated passage of the Anti Semitism Awareness act is a crucial measure that will help define and combat antisemitism in educational institutions. The adoption of the IHRA definition of anti Semitism is another necessary step as it provides a clear framework for recognizing and addressing anti Semitic incidents. Without these defining developments, universities and administrators will continue to exploit loopholes to avoid taking real action. Moreover, federal authorities must demand a safe learning environment for all students, including Jewish students. Universities that tolerate antisemitic harassment should face real consequences. The previous administration took some steps in recognizing anti Semitism as a national concern, hosting high level meetings and engaging Jewish leaders in discussions across the spectrum. However, these efforts must not be diluted by lumping antisemitism together with other forms of discrimination. At this point, While all forms of hate should be addressed, anti Semitism has unique characteristics that require a dedicated response.
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Clayton Morris
So did you hear that? So we don't want to dilute anti Semitism with other forms of discrimination. So like if you're black or you know, whatever, we're not going to dilute that. So we just want to, you know, just want to keep it separate here. In other words, anti Semitism is way better, way more important than all other forms of discrimination. Okay, here's me outer Mittens. I like this tweet says, yep, we've heard this before. Anti, anti racism. I will fight anti Semitism every time I see it. I will support Israel every chance I get. But I will not go on witch hunts for this piece of. And they go through, you know, if you can go through like 11 different examples of what actually anti Semitism and how it can manifest. Denying the Holocaust, accusing Jews of exaggerating it, accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel than their own nations. These are definitions that come right from the ihra. These aren't my definitions by the way. Denying the Jewish people the right to self determination, that is claiming the existence of Israel is a racist endeavor, etc. Applying double standards to Israel, not expecting others for other nations, etc. So, but here's my favorite part. Here's where the rabbi tells the Senate hearing on anti Semitism that it's not enough to be to be anti semitic. One you have to be anti anti Semitic.
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Rabbi
Listen, antisemitism is not just an age old prejudice. It is a contemporary crisis manifesting on campuses across the nation. It is not enough for individuals or institutions to merely claim they are not anti Semitic. As my father once taught me, it is not enough for people, especially public figures, to be neutral or not be anti semitic. One must be anti anti Semitic.
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Clayton Morris
Okay, so double anti. Tony Moon says so let's also write in that you must be anti anti Asian, anti anti Hispanic, anti anti black, anti anti white. What's the point? So this anti free speech bill will probably see none of these members of Congress like push back on this at all. I mean they're just falling right in line with this. It's unbelievable. As we watch our moves towards removing free speech in the United States of America, like something I can't believe conservatives are supporting. It's unbelievable to me. All right, well, one week ago, Tulsi Gabbard told a congressional hearing, quote, iran is not building a nuclear weapon and Supreme Leader Khamenei has not activated the nuclear weapons program. Then last night President Trump threatened a massive bombing campaign against Iran if a nuclear deal isn't reached. He told NBC News in a phone interview, if they don't make a deal, there will be bombing and it will be bombing the likes of which they have never seen before. We want to bring in Colonel Rob Manus now. He's the host of the Rob Manis Show. I mean, what is happening here? Colonel Trump seemingly contradicting something his national intelligence director said more than a week ago. Seems like there. And she would have probably access to more intelligence than anyone. She's the one that provides his daily morning briefing every morning. Right. With threat assessments. So what's going on here?
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Colonel Rob Manus
You make a good point, Clayton. But remember, these lower level bureaucrats, it is not past them to push lies up to appointed leaders, especially early in an administration like this. And I'm not making excuses. I'm just saying the reality is, and I have direct experience in this when I was a young officer on the joint staff, that Ms. Gabbard probably was briefed by her bureaucrats in the intelligence world that the Iranians are not building a nuclear bomb and that set it up to where. Now the President is saying one thing and she's saying another, looking like there's a disagreement, when in reality, based on the experience that I have and what we saw from the North Koreans and their nuclear weapons development program, the Iranians probably do have some level of weapons capability at this point, maybe even three to seven warheads, which we knew about North Korea long before it was ever admitted in public by any of the bureaucrats or appointed leaders. So, so that's the baseline of where I'm coming from there. And look, they've been lying to us on Ukraine the whole time. I was talking about how the American military was running that operation just like you were, all the way from the very beginning. And we were told, no, no, no. I mean, and they lie every single day. So that's, that's where I'm coming from. Now, as far as the President goes and what he said, there's some good news in that activity. And here it is. The good news is, is that, look, the President is a known quantity to the ayatollahs and the mullahs and the irgc. He, he made a big statement when he took out General Soleimani without notice and sent them the right message about his future leadership. And now we're there. We're at that future leadership. So we've got B2 bombers in numbers that have never been deployed before to a deployed Location down in Diego Garcia. If, if the, the open source reporting is to be believed, and I have no reason to question it, that's. We've never done that before. Is that more than just a message without muscle behind it? Absolutely. Because of the previous actions of President Donald J. Trump. The good news about that is the ayatollahs may be able to get out of this without us going to war against Iran, which I am totally opposed to. I've been opposed to that the entire time that this has been an issue from when Obama put the JCPOA in place and all of that. The neocons want us to go in there in a ground war, boots on the ground, just like Ukraine and Russia are going at it in Europe and they want to do there too, and we should be adamantly opposed to that. There's no reason for it. That's number one. Number two, if he chooses to use kinetic force against the Iranians, it's going to likely be against their nuclear capability. So it will be limited in scope and limited in time. But really, has the United States Congress, and here's my big question, given us permission to do that beyond what we're doing by defending our US Navy ships and defending commercial shipping traffic in the Red Sea against the Houthis and any Iranian forces associated with that? I've long been an advocate that we should have, should be taking out their command and control and intelligence ships that help the Houthis do that type of thing. But that's not even close to what I would support, going against Iran directly because it's not really necessary. Look, in the first Trump administration, the maximum pressure campaign had them literally on their knees. Unfortunately, this president and this administration entered the situation where we are the ones that are weak and they've got to get our strength built back up, and you have to meet the situation where it's meeting you. And right now, they've got to understand in the leadership halls of Iran that this man means business.
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Clayton Morris
I mean, it's absolutely chilling. I see so many people in our chat are just saying, I am so sick of these wars, as says no more wars. I mean, I think what, what so many Trump supporters voted for was in many ways George Washington's farewell address, you know, which is American isolationism in a way, like stop these foreign wars. And now here President Trump is bombing Yemen, just launched an attack overnight in Somalia. These are all the things that he criticized Obama for. And now we're back at doing it again. You know, I guess at the heart of it, Colonel Is, you know, you had the IAEA report as well. So forget the bureaucrats. If these low level bureaucrats are lying to Tulsi Gabbard and then she's getting in front of Congress and saying there's no evidence they're moving towards a nuclear weapon. They want to enrich uranium for their own nuclear power production, which is totally different. And apparently all according to the reports I've seen. That's where all evidence points to, is that they want to enrich uranium for their own nuclear power production, just like we're allowed to do. So, and I'm not speaking about how great these people are or not. I'm just talking about their own means of energy production in their own country, in their own sovereign country, then you have the IAE report just a few months ago confirming with their own eyeballs that they're not moving towards a nuclear weapon. So I'm just lost. I'm just lost. Who's beating the drum of war here? Because it sounds like it's a fool's errand and we will be killed. I mean, you have 50,000Americans sitting there sitting ducks right now in the Middle East. Those will be targets. And they're not bases, as you know. These are like little dinky outposts and huts and stuff. You have some bases there, but many of these things are not well equipped to stop hypersonic missiles or anything.
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Colonel Rob Manus
That's true, but they don't have enough hypersonic missile capability to hit every single one of those little outposts. But even one American lost over this is too many. You know when they killed the three, three Americans over at the Syria Jordan border last year, that's too many Americans. They don't need to be there. We don't need to have Americans on the ground in the Middle east at all. Look, it's one thing to defend international shipping lanes. And if somebody shoots at our navy vessels that are out in international waters to be able to fire back. Which is why I support the operation against the Houthis, because the Biden administration did not do it effectively and it needs to be carried out effectively to stop that type of behavior. It's another totally other thing to go in and say, well, we need to go to war against Iran and put boots on the ground and do massive bombing campaigns that last for years and years, years. I don't support that. The American people don't support that. I don't believe Donald Trump will support that either. But again, we have to meet the situation where it is. And the situation is that we come into this. The Trump administration comes into this with America that is weak as it has ever been because of this Biden administration. And in order to get peace through strength back where we need it to be, where we're not involved in these endless wars anymore, we have to build up our strength. And while we're doing that, we have to face these criminals that are doing this kind of activity. And the Iranians are not innocent people here. And quite honestly, I don't trust the IAEA either. I've been around nuclear weapons since I was 17 years old, and I don't really believe anything that they say. Normal any other international World Economic Forums type organization at all. I don't believe anything that they say. The only thing that I would believe is if I could walk in and look at it with my own eyeballs, because I would know what I was looking at. So the indications have been for. For many, many years now that they are building up enough enriched uranium to develop nuclear weapons. And they're at a point now where they have had enough capability. Where North Korea was, in my own experience, when they were getting ready to break out with nuclear warheads, and they were a lot further ahead, actually had eight of them, if I remember correctly, before we ever acknowledged. And it was a year or two before we ever acknowledged they had the capability. So if they have that capability, we need to be taking a look at that. But that's even more beside the point. If it's a direct threat to the United States, then it's our problem. But it's not a direct threat to the United States. It's only a threat because we have our troops on the ground in the Middle East.
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Clayton Morris
Bingo.
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Colonel Rob Manus
Or if they want to put nukes, unless they use nukes in international shipping lanes, that's a totally different story. Then we would have to respond to that.
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Clayton Morris
Now, you hit the nail on the head.
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Colonel Rob Manus
Let me bring the Israelis in for a second here.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah. Well, I just want to say you hit the nail on the head, and I will come back to the Israelis because. Can I. Hold on. We'll come back to the Israeli.
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Colonel Rob Manus
Because they are. They are a direct threat to the Israelis from a nuclear weapons perspective. And if the Israelis see a need from their national security perspective to take their targets out on their nuclear side, who's gonna. Who. Who could disagree with them? But the United States doesn't need to be involved in it.
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Clayton Morris
Bingo. Okay, great. Right. Again, this is not the United States situation. This is not the United States war. And again, I challenge anyone out there to tell Me how it's in our interest to go to war with Iran. What? How is it in our interest to go to. Basically, not only that, we would torpedo everything we're trying to accomplish in Ukraine on a peace deal because the Russians would back the Iranians. This would be a World War three situation for us to go to war with Iran. I think it's madness. I think you hit the nail on the head. There's no benefit to the United States. It does benefit Israel, but again.
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Colonel Rob Manus
Israel has the capability they need to address the situation if they feel that they're about to get attacked by nuclear weapons from Iran. Now having the United States presence on the high seas there and those kind of things is not a bad thing if somebody does decide to attack Iran's nuclear forces. Because remember, China and Russia are both involved in this. More concerned about China than anybody else because they're. They're running free in those oceans too. And they're not getting attacked by the Houthis and the Iranians because they're friends with them. So you have to have some kind of hedge there to prevent any further outbreak because there's the real World War III right there. It's what I've been saying since, since we started the stupidity with Ukraine is that we are on the brink of a complete global World War Three. The facts don't support not doing anything, but they also don't support going further into a kinetic conflict, especially against Iran, when you don't really need to. I go back to the maximum pressure campaign. I think the President and his team originally had the right idea and I'm voting for that.
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Clayton Morris
Can I ask you. This is a difficult question. Why does Israel have the right to have nuclear weapons and lie to the American people about it, lie to JFK about it, lie to Eisenhower about it? Why do the Iranians not get to have nuclear weapons?
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Colonel Rob Manus
Well, first of all, they got them at a different time, number one. Number two, they haven't been. They're threatening to wipe different types of peoples off the face of the Earth using them. They've used them as merely really a deterrence capability. They've never used them in anger, haven't even threatened publicly to use them in anger. The difference between the mullahs and the Israelis when it comes to that type of weaponry is so dramatic that it's unthinkable that we would let the Islamist Nazis, and that's what they are, have nuclear weapons that they could fire into Europe, fire into the rest of the Middle east, fire into Eurasia, and eventually be able to fire onto the United States. They don't have that capability right now, but trust me, they will go after it. Once they do that breakout, are they going to. Are they broken out? I think they're broken out already with, like I said, between three and seven warheads. And they have the capability to deliver them medium range because of the missile capabilities they have, but they aren't even close to being able to hit the United States with it, although our forces would be in grave danger if they decided they were going to go use this. So the Islamo Nazis do crazy things. You cannot rely upon them to be stable. You cannot rely upon them to be rational actors. And that's what has made the Cold War possible. And the victory there is that both the Russians, the Soviets and the Americans were rational actors. The Chinese Communists and the Americans are rational actors. Israel fits into that same category. The Islamo Nazis, they don't fit into that category. And they are hell bent on destroying the state of Israel and wiping it off the face of the earth, no matter what the situation is and what warrants it. It's why we keep an eye on Pakistan very, very closely and the Indians. They both are nuclear weapons states and so far have been rational actors and have used it for the deterrent capability that they designed them in the field of them for, which is against each other. But there's no confidence amongst anybody that I know from a Western perspective that the Iranians be the same way.
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Clayton Morris
Oh, man. Well, we've pistol off a lot of people in the chat room today. Daniel says, damn, Clayton, that's a dumb question about. And then, then MSW says, yep, well said, Clayton. So you can't, you can't make anyone happy. But it's not in this. I mean, we're sitting. No, not in this. When we're sitting on World War Three. Yeah, you know, and I'm just pushing for an American first policy. And I hope that, you know, I hope that these neocons, I hope that these, these nut jobs in Washington aren't driving this administration in the wrong direction. I mean, I happen to know from my sources inside the White House that in fact, there's a group of individuals inside the White House that are actively trying to prevent going to war with Iran. And then there's a group that's actively trying to go to war with Iran. So they're at loggerheads right now inside the White House on this very question. It's deeply troubling. Who's gonna win? Who's gonna win? Trump's ear. That's the real question here. Colonel, thank you so much for your time today. I know we ran a little late and I appreciate you sticking around with us. The host of the Rob Mana show, you can check him out. Colonel, great to see you. Thank you so much.
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Colonel Rob Manus
Thank you, Clayton. I appreciate you having me on. It's a tough discussion, but it has to be had.
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Clayton Morris
Absolutely. Thank you so much. And we should have more conversations like this. I mean, these are, you know, obviously difficult issues to hash out. And I loved, I loved Colonel's point about the iaea. I mean, there's been plenty of times when I've been at loggerheads with them. Right. So we're going to take them at face value what they say about Iran. I mean, they lied right to our faces about what happened at the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, you know, lying by omission about what actually happened there. So how, how trustworthy are these individuals who are part of like a, you know, a UN body, a World Economic Forum body? Great point, great point. See, these are kinds of discussion, discussions we should be having. And I agree with that. All right, we've got more news to get to here. We're gonna talk about Poland in a second because Poland has abandoned Ukraine, it seems like. Or the way the media is painting it is that it's, hey, if you're a right wing, you're a white right wing, ultra nationalist in Poland, then you're sick of your country basically turning over your sovereignty to Ukraine, giving up, you know, all of your weapons and money, and allowing millions of refugees to come in and basically destroy your country. Dr. Mike Krupa is going to be joining us here in a second on that story. But first, look, I don't know your exact situation, but if you're like thousands of homeowners American financing talks to every month, you're struggling to keep up, barely making ends meet, drowning in high interest credit card debt. And it's not your fault. Life has gotten a lot more expensive. Inflation hit us all very different, very hard. And if you're still carrying credit card balances that have 20 plus interest rates, 20 plus percentage interest rates, while your mortgage is just sitting there untouched, you can actually ignore the one thing you could use to turn it all around, and that's your home equity, the equity in your own home to pay off. You're basically trading one financial product for another. That's the way that I look at it. I've used home equity to invest in real estate. I've used the equity in my main home to actually buy rental real estate throughout the years. So you're sitting on equity. I always say you can't eat equity. You can use it and leverage it to pay off high interest debt and actually invest. They have a team of salary based mortgage consultants so there isn't any incentives, incentive to put you into a loan. That doesn't make sense and there's no upfront fees. To find out how much you can save, don't wait. Call American Financing today. Start feeling that relief. That's 866-890-8434. That's 866-895-8434 or visit americanfinancing.netacted and their disclaimer is NMLS 182334. You can check that out at NLS consumeraccess.org All right, I think we're still waiting on the doctor to jump in. Here is. Oh, sorry. He was waiting, he was waiting on the link. That's my bad. Let me just send it to him. Yes, waiting on you. So in the meantime maybe we can take some, some super chats. We're going to wait on him a second here. David, can you pull up some super chats?
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David
Yeah.
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Clayton Morris
Sorry here. But no, I just love this conversation because I think Kenzie Kraken says, hey, redacted, have guests with varying opinions. One thing you can say is that they are, they are anti war. Yeah, I mean I don't agree with everything, you know, of course I, I don't, I don't want to go to Iran.
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David
We'll never agree with all of our guests. But that doesn't, you know that you don't not bring them on because you don't agree. Because like that's the whole part of a conversation. You have to talk with the people you don't agree with as much if not more than the people you agree with in order to come to agreements on things.
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Clayton Morris
Right. I mean Scott Ritter on our show, former UN weapons inspector Scott Ritter said a few months ago on our show that in fact he's seen, he's seen the data that suggests that yes, Iran is building a nuclear weapon and that they're close to it. And I to hear that out of his mouth, I mean he's vehemently anti war. He's the one that warned us about, and I hope I'm not misquoting him. I'm pretty sure, I'm pretty sure that I'm not misquoting him on that. That in fact he did say that live on our show that he was worried that it was creeping up and it was getting very, very close based on what he was seeing. He's the one that warned the world the fact that Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction. So he's not one to like, push us into a war. He's just being honest about what's coming. And he, you know, what can we do in order to prevent that from happening? And is it a wrong thing to ask the question, like, why is Israel allowed to have nuclear weapons, you know, and lie about it? They lied to the American. They lied to JFK about it. They lied to Eisenhower about it right to their faces. They lied to him. So somebody said we were allowed to.
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David
McGregor and Manus on at the same time. Have them, have them talk.
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Clayton Morris
I'd love to have that.
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David
Yeah, that would be awesome.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah, I would love to have that.
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David
So we got.
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Clayton Morris
You want me to.
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David
Super chats really quick?
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Clayton Morris
Yeah, sure. While we wait.
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David
I'm sorry, I think I cut you off twice.
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Natalie
Oh, that's all right. I just, I just, I like, I question the, the, the logic behind, you know, like threatening, threatening to bomb Iran so then potentially like kicking off a war that. That's going to this basically like Russia, Iran, China versus the US and Israel, while simultaneously like through like threats of terrorists and stuff like that, alien alienating ourself from any potential allies that would join us in that. So essentially it'd be like kicking off a world war in which most of the allies we've had traditionally would likely bow out to come to our rescue. It just seems, it seems like a very dangerous game to not connect the economic pressure we're trying to put on the world and then also threatening militarily in a way that just seems counterproductive to me.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah, right. And also when we see what these sanctions do to different countries, I mean, it's absolutely devastating to these people. So I mean, look, when Libya has like fuel and financial sovereignty and energy sovereignty, but we can't allow them to be energy independent, so we have to bomb them and kill Muammar Gaddafi.
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David
Well, and think about it too. It's like we, we have. So these countries want to have these weapons and want to move into like bricks and things like that because we weaponize everything. We are the one, we're the only ones in, in America, in world history that have dropped those weapons on a civilization. And also we put sanctions on everybody, which is in itself an act of war. People do die under sanctions. I don't think a lot of people Realize that. So why wouldn't these countries want to take measures to not be. To not allow us to be able to put sanctions on them one and to be able to threaten them with nuclear war? Why shouldn't they have the same ability to say, no, we'll strike you back, or we'll strike first if you threaten it. In my opinion, they have every right to do that. And why are we the ones that are able to dictate that when we're the ones that have dropped them?
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Clayton Morris
Yeah, we're the only country in the world that's dropped the nuclear weapons, and we get to dictate that. I mean, this should be off the table, but as Memphis in our chat says, the people of Iran aren't all extremists, but that's the way they're painted in the west, right? That everyone that lives in Iran is an extremist. Everyone there, the young people, everyone's an extremist and therefore should never be able to defend itself. So, again, I mean, we've done plenty of interviews with Iranians that just want. They want their own country, and they want to be left alone, and they don't want to be involved in this in these massive wars. They don't want to be under sanctions. They want to be able to enrich uranium for their own nuclear power like we do in the United States. And they've been doing it under the eyes of apparently our own intelligence agencies. We know. I mean, Kurt. Congressman Kurt Weldon talked all about this. Like, we. We had the CIA basically working in Iran's intelligence community. So we knew exactly what they were doing. We knew exactly. The CIA was embedded deeply inside of Iranian security, and we knew exactly what they were doing, which is not what they were purported to be doing. It comes right out of Congressman Weldon's mouth about what we knew inside of Iran. So, again, so maddening.
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David
Did you want a couple super chats?
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Clayton Morris
Yeah, yeah, go ahead. Sorry. Yeah, it's okay.
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David
We got investment prepper Clinton's email on WikiLeaks mentioned the tomb of Gilgamesh and other Egyptian conspiracies. They were looking for that you mentioned.
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Clayton Morris
Oh, interesting, huh?
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David
And Keg says all you do is gossip like housewives.
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Clayton Morris
I think he was talking to the. The chat room early because I saw that he said, you guys. You people in the chat room, all you guys do is gossip like housewives. Okay, all right, you know what? Good.
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David
Just one more can. Why carrying what happens with this Samson option sounds very racist. I'm not sure what the Samson option is.
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Clayton Morris
I'm not sure about that either. Are we going to go to Derek Bros next here? Because Mike Krupa is having some issues connecting in Poland. So we'll get Mike back on the show tomorrow to talk about Poland and its Ukraine situation.
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David
I wonder if Zoom is blocked over there or something because he had issues last time. I wonder if that's something like they block it in that country or something.
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Clayton Morris
I don't know. I'll talk to him about it. He's had some issues, so we'll, we'll find out. I know Europe loves to, like, block certain news sites and things like that, so they, you know, to access stuff. May in our chat says never thought redacted. Would have a BSC guest guess pretending to be anti war and calling genocide Israel trustworthy with nukes. Well, we have lots of guests here on the show. Like, that doesn't mean we agree with everything they say. I mean, I, you know, I asked them the question about Israel having nuclear weapons, and they lied to the American people about it, and they lied to our American presidents about it, and they still lie publicly about it. Like, if you ask them, do they have them, they'll tell you. Netanyahu will tell you right to your face that they don't have them. But that's a lie.
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David
Yeah, we're not here to create an echo chamber. You, It's a, it's a difference of ideas. Like, you, you have to talk about both sides. I mean, like, I listen to more news that I disagree with than agree with, because I want all perspectives. Because when you have the both perspectives, the answers are usually somewhere in the middle of it.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah. I mean, also, yeah, if you want an echo chamber, just go to Blue Sky. You can use that. Like, that's a good echo chamber. If you just want, like, liberal echo chamber talking points, like, that's a good place. But I don't have to agree with everything my guests say. And there's a lot that I do agree with them, and I'm blown away by it. But that's my job as an interviewer. I'm not, you know, you don't have to come on my show if you only agree with me. I'm vehemently anti war. I'm America first. You know, I don't believe in putting, like, Israel first. I don't believe in putting China first. I don't believe in putting Russia first. I believe in putting America first. I'm an American, and that's how I, that's how I feel about things. So people feel Differently, you know, so people feel differently. Yeah. I mean, I love. You know, he is v. The thing. I've turned. Talked to Colonel Manus before. I mean, he's in again. He's. You've listened to his show. He's. He's anti war. He does not want us going to war. And he specifically talked about our American troops and forces being in that region who are going to be sitting ducks. And, you know, it's devastating. I don't think we should be there at all. I don't know where he comes down on that point. You know, if he thinks we should have a force in the Middle East, I. I'm a. I'm a kind of, you know, an isolationist.
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David
Said that. He said that we shouldn't and that we should only have them at the. The trading or the trade.
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Clayton Morris
Suez. Okay, okay.
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David
He was like, we shouldn't be there.
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Clayton Morris
He did say that. Yeah, he did say that. That's right. So that, that's. I mean, talk about neocons in Washington. They'll totally disagree with him on that. Right. Colonel's literally saying we shouldn't have American forces in the Middle East. Tell that to a neocon. They'll about have a heart attack. Are you kidding me? They want more bases in the Middle East. Not to remove bases and have American home because we've got to be ready.
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Natalie
To respond if they attack our bases in the Middle East. So we need more bases in the Middle east in case they attack them. That way we can respond.
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Clayton Morris
Exactly, exactly. All right. Yeah. We're going to get to Derek Brose and talk about the Pyramid of Power to round out our show today. This is going to be fascinating. This is going to be fascinating because the amount of research that Derek has been doing for years on who's actually running the world and the interviews that he's done with people like David Icke and others, I'm really fascinated to hear about this. So we're going to talk to him in just a second. But first, since Natalie's not here, she would normally tell you about our friends over at Gen Ya Cell, but I'm gonna try to do my best because she actually still uses it. Natalie has this in her bathroom, on her countertop in the bathroom. So she uses it. She would tell you all about it. But I'm gonna tell you about it because there's a really interesting story at the heart of all of this. A lady named Phyllis. She walked into the neighborhood pharmacy in Colonia, New Jersey, and she asked the pharmacist for an antioxidant cream for her wrinkles. And the pharmacist said, I'll compound one for you, Come back tomorrow. So he made it for her. So Phyllis uses the cream for three days, then goes to her dermatologist appointment. The doctor just looking at her thinks that she got some work done. Phyllis then tells everyone about the pharmacy and the pharmacist who makes this magical cream. And then guess what? Believe it or not, that's actually how Genucell Skincare was born. She basically took the same formulation from this pharmacist and decided to push it out everywhere. And Natalie loves it. She loves the under eye serum for puffiness and bags under the eyes. So it's 25 years old now. Genucel has shipped millions of orders, yet they still have the same philosophy of antioxidants, same natural base, same chef in the kitchen, basically, so you can celebrate 25 years with them. They're offering their best price since Philip. Phyllis walked into that pharmacy in New Jersey right now. Save 70% off. 70% off of their complete skincare package plus free shipping with their puffiness serum, their jawline sculpting treatment, and the immediate effects for results in minutes, look 5, 10, even 15 years younger, guaranteed or your money back. So you have nothing to lose. You can get your money back. Just go to Jenyacell.com redacted every order includes free shipping. Use the code redacted to check out for an extra discount. Once again, it's Jenyacel.com redacted and look as good as my wife does. So this question comes up a lot. Who's really running the world? Is it the forward facing, camera facing people like Klaus Schwab, Bill Gates, Donald Trump, Keir Starmer, Justin Trudeau, Mark Carney? Are those the power players that are really running things or is it a secret cabal, sort of deep secret, deep state group of individuals running the show? Well, that's exactly what our next guest has been investigating. Derrick Brose, investigative reporter, has been working on the Pyramid of Power series now for a long time and is just about to put the finishing touches on his final episode in this series, which really looks at the high level, I think, hierarchy of all of this, tying all of these pieces together. And we wanted to welcome Derek back to the show. Great to see you, my friend.
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Derek Bros
Hey, thanks for having me on, Clayton. I appreciate it.
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Clayton Morris
My pleasure. So we've had you on before, of course, to talk about a lot of pieces of this, particularly the false flag episode that we focused on where these False flags have been used to great effect to carry out wars. They dupe the public into rallying support for these things. But now in your final episode, as you approach this, you're really looking at sort of the hierarchy of who's really calling the shots, sort of the puppet masters behind everything. Can you walk us through what you're working on right now?
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Derek Bros
Yeah. So as you said, I've been working on this series for quite a while. This has been a five year project at this point now. And the whole goal was to describe the individual pieces of the structure, things like false flags, but the education system, the media, big tech, etc, and progressively get a bit more conspiratorial, if you will, but all based on facts and what we can prove. And so the goal of this final episode is to attempt to answer the question of who or what is at the top of the pyramid. And in the pursuit of that, I'm looking at everything you mentioned just now, the United nations, the World Economic Forum, the Bilderberg Group, which I think are groups that play a role, but from my perspective are sort of the front facing groups for deeper power. We are also examining what does that term, deep state even mean? What is the origin of that? Where does it come from? Was popularized in the English language by Peter Dale Scott, who's now in his 90s and not doing too many interviews anymore. But he did some great work really bringing that, that to the forefront. I think that term has been kind of co opted, if you will, in the recent years to sort of, for some people the deep state just means the left wing of the American political scene or progressives or George Soros. But originally it was describing more of the entire infrastructure. You have the Wall street players, you've got organized crime, of course, which Whitney Webb and others have. You got the big oil industry and just all those different players who are extra governmental. You know, these aren't elected people, but they clearly are impacting our world around us. And then from there we're going to even go deeper and look at, well, who are the people at the top of those. If the Bilderberg Group is just a representative of the real power, then who are they actually representing? And in the pursuit of answering that question, I'm featuring a number of really talented, you know, educated researchers. Everybody from David, Ike, G, Edward Griffin, of course, both of them have been around for a long time doing this work. James Corbett, Mark Pasio, Larkin Rose, so many other people who are bringing all their perspectives. Like in this episode, we are going to consider everything Nothing is off the table. So the people who say it's the Jesuits, we're going to give them, you know, their say and explore that those theories. The people who say it's the Masons will do the same thing. And of course, even with Ike, let him explore his idea of Reptilian or something otherworldly, other dimensionally at the top of this. And then people like Mark Pasio more specifically say things like Satanists or Luciferians. So I'm doing my best to remain objective and continue with the sort of true crime approach that I've taken with this series. I don't really even consider it to be a conspiracy documentary because although it touches on things that might be labeled conspiracies, it's very much fact based, it's very much just sticking to what we can prove. And of course when we get to this final question, it's a little bit more murky, it's a little more difficult to say with certainty. But I'm going to do my best to, and you know, to really kind of point to the research that has been done and then of course draw my own conclusions. And to do that, I mean, I'm going back and I've been purchasing and downloading books that have been written in the 1800s and even some in the 1700s around the founding of the United States that were pointing at these different groups from the Jesuits to the Freemasons, et cetera. And yeah, I think it's, I think it's going to be an educational one. I think I'll be able to please everybody who has their own pet opinion or who they think is at the top. But I think it will be informative.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah, this doesn't seem like the kind of documentary where you're out to please people, right? I mean this is. So yeah, there's going to be people that are being going to be pissed off. They're going to say, you know, they're going to say, well, it's all the Jesuits, it's all the Reptilians, it's all, you know, it's all the Jews, it's all the, you know, whatever it is, right. They're going to say they're going to have their opinion on all of this. So, so I think people throw these terms around. You kind of bring up a good point which is, I think in modern day social media you'll see people's responses to things, right? And they'll just say it's the Jews. Then they'll just yell out, you know, it's the cabal, it's the deep state blob. They just kind of throw out these markers and they assume that everything kind of falls under this window here. And I think what your research has shown is that it's not just cut and dry, it's just not black and white here, is it?
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Derek Bros
No, absolutely. It's definitely not black and white. And. And I will be exploring that claim with it's the Jews, or more specifically the Zionist. We have researcher Adam Green over at no More News who will be sharing his opinions. And as I mentioned, I mean, I'm. When I. So when I'm doing my research, I go back to the primary sources. So right here I got a book called Foreign Conspiracy written in the 1800s by Samuel Morse, the same man who invented the Morse code. He was actually a conspiracy theorist and he believed it was the Jesuits and the Vatican Church. I got this one, Proofs of a Conspiracy written also in the late 1700s, written by John Robeson, who was warning George Washington. You can find his letters online warning George Washington that the Freemasons had already infiltrated the United States. This one's called the Engineer Corps of Hell, written by Edwin Allen Sherman, who also points the finger at the Jesuits. These books are almost 200 years old, 150 years old. That doesn't mean they're factual just because they're old, of course. But I do find it interesting to go back and for people to recognize that these sort of lines of thinking and lines of questioning, they're not new. This isn't just something that came about because of the Internet. Perhaps we have much more access to the information now. And so conspiracies and conspiracy research is more widespread. But there is no doubt that the claims of influence in the United States and elsewhere have existed. And there are 100% facts behind them. I mean, we can look at, just as one example, the fact that dozens and dozens of US Presidents, Mexican presidents, European monarchs, presidents and prime ministers around the world have been Freemasons. Very high level Freemasons. That is, there's no controversy about that. That's documented fact. We can also look at the Russian Revolution, the French Revolution, the American Revolution, Spanish Revolution, the coup of Hawaii to make Hawaii a state in the United States. All involved people who were high level Masons. And in the same vein, you can also look and see Jesuit influence throughout history in different areas. So there is facts there. Now. It's just sort of where we get to the place where we might need to speculate a little more is how much of Those influences which were involved in wars and revolutions and uprisings still exist today. You know, there are people who have theories that say the Freemasons and the sort of secret societies that exist today, the Bohemian Grove Bohemian Club and others, that they have a lineage that dates all the way back to ancient Egypt. Right. In the Egyptian secret societies or the Pythagorean Egyptian societies. I'm less certain that you can actually draw that distinction. You know, there might be some groups who claim that and say, well, we're the modern version of this or that. But it's, I think, more hard and difficult to prove. Although many of us might believe and suspect that there is literally just some lineage that has been passed down from the ancient Egypt or ancient days of Rome and then secretly passed down and down and down. But for certain, we can say that in the last 150 to 200 years, there are people involved in secret societies who may have been inspired by those older groups that are behind the scenes and are influencing our world.
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Clayton Morris
So I want to touch on the David Icke stuff because, you know, he, like, you know, here's a guy who was calling out this stuff before the Internet that was even around, right? So he was. He was tapped into this well before, you know, a lot of younger people came along and jumped on the Internet and started exploring these topics. So the reptilian piece of this, like, it's. It's very easy for people to, like, slough that off and be like, oh, that's just way over here, fringe. But I've seen a lot of stuff. You've seen a lot of stuff. Where did you come down on your. Your discussions with David Icke on this reptilian question? And can you maybe you explain a little bit this to our audience? Might be sitting there like, okay, Clayton, now you've lost me. We can talk about Jesuits, we can talk about Freemasons, but Reptilians running things? It's too much.
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Derek Bros
Yeah, I definitely think that's a bridge too far for many people. So I was lucky enough to go to the UK last. Last October and to sit down with David for three hours. And I released most of that interview. But a few of the questions are specifically for the documentary, and his answers will be coming out when we release this in May or June. And of course, I had to ask him about his. His claims. And so for those who don't know David's history, you know, he came about, of course, in the early 90s. He had a controversial start, sort of claiming he was the second coming of, of God or Christ, however you will. And I didn't get into that with David. But since then, in the 90s and late 90s, he started to expand his research and he drew the conclusion based on studying various historical references, cultural references that he believes point to the existence of not only some sort of, of alien, but maybe, I think he would say, extra dimensional, not necessarily like from another planet per se, but something else that does sort of present itself in the physical form as 10 to 12ft tall reptilians standing on, you know, 2ft. And of course, others in different area, you know, different areas of research, UFO research particularly, have kind of taken that over the years. But David is really the first person that I know of that proposed that idea and kind of got it out into the masses. And I, I don't want to speak for him, of course, but I encourage people just to read his works, read his books, because David, that, I think that's the main thing he always comes at. Whenever people say, oh, you're crazy. There's no way that's possible. All he asks is for people to look at the research that he's done, to look at the historical references he puts forward and then you can make up your own mind. But I did sort of dig into that and ask him to describe, like, what do you think is at the top? Is it the Reptilians at the top of the pyramid? Is there something else? And I don't want to give away his entire answer, but the short version of it is that he believes that even the Reptilians are not the top of the pyramid, but there is this energy, this spirit, if you will, that has possessed them and that possess certain, certain humans here on, on our planet that we might call evil, we might call, you know, different things, but that's sort of what he places at the top of it. So even if somebody was to say, well, I don't believe the Reptilians, but if there's, you know, Henry Kissinger or whatever human being you want to place at the top of the pyramid and David's eyes, it's still that those human beings are actually possessed by something that has taken over and is this sort of dark force that does feed off of war and violence and fear and death and all the sort of things that we would term negative in our dualistic reality.
- [71:34]
Clayton Morris
Right? Because at the, at the heart of it we say, oh, there's a spiritual answer to this question, the Pyramid of Power. But it might really be, Did I say physical? Yeah, we might Think it as a physical response here, but really it might be a spiritual top of this pyramid, right? I mean, that's controlling all of us, controlling these pieces, of these demonic pieces. You know, when I had my friend Tucker Carlson on a few months ago to talk about the White House, you know, under the Biden administration, really believed that it was like demonic forces running things, running things there. And I'm sure there are people within the Trump administration who might have that same kind of control over them at a spiritual level that are doing pretty nefarious things, trying to lead us into war with Iran or whatever else it is. So it's really maybe at the heart of it, it's a good versus evil story.
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Derek Bros
I tend to believe that. And this is where it gets interesting, because obviously in our broader community of truth or search for the search for truth and justice and all these sort of things, there's a lot of different views and including there are Christians in the audience and your audience and my audience, and I have no issues with them. But so for a Christian, they filter everything through that lens. So the answer to this question would be, well, of course it's the devil, it's Satan that's at the top of the pyramid. And definitely I interview people who, who feel that same same way. I don't necessarily, if I know if I would use those terms. I'm not one who takes the Bible as. As a literal historical document. And in fact, chapter 16 of the pyramid of Power, which is available now, explores the way that religion and secret societies have been used to manipulate humans and get us to support all kinds of INJ Justices throughout history. But with that said, I definitely do believe my personal perspective, some of which I will be sharing in the final episode, is that this is a spiritual battle. At the end of the day, you know, that there are human players and organizations and institutions we can point at, and that's a real physical, you know, reality. But I do think there is some deeper, more esoteric, spiritual aspect to this that perhaps many people are not even tuned into. And ultimately, I think that's what it really comes down to. You know, I do think it's important, obviously. See, I'm taking the time. This is the biggest project I've ever undertaken. Five years of working on this so far, the Pyramid. Six hours plus. This last episode's probably going to be 45 minutes to an hour. And I'm just doing daily research, diving into this. I put in over a thousand hours into this project. I think it's an important topic to explore. Like I said, I don't know if any of us can say for certain, but what I'm trying to do with this series is to present as much factual evidence and to show people who are going down these rabbit holes instead of just sort of, of loosely holding ideas of. Like you said earlier, Clayton, what's the cabal? Or it's the, you know, deep state blob or whatever. Like let's get as close to actually pointing to in individuals so that we can have some real account accountability. Because I don't think there will ever be real accountability if we're just sort of vaguely discussing this without actually, you know, getting to the bottom of it. And perhaps we can't truly get to the bottom of it and ever know for certain because there doesn't exist a document that says here's a list of all the CIA agents that are in the media or here's a list of all the groups running the world. But sure, lots of theories. There's, you know, names have been tossed around like the committee of 300, of course, the round table groups. And I'm exploring each and every one of these ideas. There's also another one, Synarchy, which I've only recently become familiar with. And my goal is again to try to give people that fact based, documented information at, @thepyramidofpower.net People can find all of the episodes and every single transcript with all of my sources, links to every source document, primary source is available there. And I'm going to take that same tact with this final episode. Even though admittedly we do have to, I think, get into a little bit of speculation to have that conversation because there's no, you know, like I said, there's no firm document that we can point to of that final boss at the top, if there even is such a thing. Some of the people I interviewed say they don't even believe that that's the accurate way to look at it. That perhaps it's just another round table at the top of, you know, a collection of individuals rather than, you know, one single person or one single group.
- [75:35]
Clayton Morris
Well, I mean, even like the David Icke stuff. I mean, I've definitely interviewed people. I've watched many interviews. I've spent countless hours looking at the secret space program and you have this really international cabal of individuals who are together, but if you listen to their stories, they've been transported to the moon, they've been literally in the moon base. Multiple witnesses who have been. I've spoken to a former Air Force Member who's been to the moon. And what she told me was horrifying. And these individuals at the moon base, for crying out loud, controlling and basically almost allowing us sort of puny humans to even have a seat at the table because we're so far behind in technology. And so this reptilian question, the, the white haired Nordics question, like I'm there for all of it because, you know, I'm not a closed minded individual. I'm interviewing, you know, members of the Air Force, members of the military who've seen these things and who've been to these meetings and witnessed this stuff. So we go about our day, you know, we go to Target, we have lunch with our family, we put dinner on the table at night. But there's some serious stuff going on that we have really no idea. Behind the scenes, right?
- [76:48]
Derek Bros
Yeah, absolutely. And I think that's probably why it's so overwhelming for many people, Clayton, is because we are generally just, just good people trying to go about our day, take care of our families, you know, accomplish our goals and have a good time when we can. While also understanding there's massive governmental corruption. And that's one thing to understand the government's corrupt, there's, you know, there's scandals happening, but to really try to get to the bottom of it and understand, well, who is at the top. Because I think some people make the mistake and let's say maybe more in a mainstream view that government is inept and so corruption happens, but it's really just because government isn't, you know, efficient enough. We just haven't perfected that institution. And actually Gary Allen, a researcher from the 70s who was one of the first people to point at some of these things, he called in his book None Dare Call It Conspiracy. He said there was sort of two ways to look at history. One is this conspiratorial view of history, which is that people conspire together. You know, there's nothing crazy about that. Men, women, groups get together and say, hey, maybe we could fix this oil market to have some extra profit. Or people conspire together to throw a secret birthday party. Humans conspiring. The other view of history is just this accident, dental view of history that everything is just kind of happenstance and unfolding, you know, just randomly. I think there's a combination of those two things that exist. I don't, I'm not one of the people that think every single world event is completely staged and controlled. And you know, the cabal has their fingerprints and everything. I think that's actually a pretty disempowering worldview that takes away our own agency, that we do have power, we do have the ability to affect the world around us. But we shouldn't obviously clearly write off the, you know, the. The reality that there is conspiracies that are affecting our world and that there are people coming together for financial purposes, for power, for maybe just outright evil, who do conspire together to benefit themselves and to keep the world going in a direction that will keep them at the top. Like, that's what it's ultimately about, is how do we keep making moves, financial moves or otherwise, that are going to keep us and our progeny. That's the other big thing I'll say about this, is that these folks, whatever group you want to point at and all the groups that I'm studying, they think generationally. I think this is why they're winning, or at least they appear to be winning, is because us on the freedom side of things, while we're trying to figure out all these things, we're very disorganized, we're arguing with each other, we're dividing against each other, we're, you know, distracted by daily social media, whatever is trending, whatever is, you know, the latest thing you're supposed to be offended by. While these folks, even down to the level of, say, Henry Kissinger and Rockefeller, they're thinking long term, they're thinking generationally. They know that they're working on goals that they are not necessarily going to live to see the. The outcome of, but they can think with that long vision. And I think that's why they've been able to be so successful as they keep the masses kind of worried about how many likes do I have today, what's happening right now in this moment, instead of how can I plan for the long term? And I think that's really one of the goals of this series, is I'm trying to help people understand that there are solutions. I don't know if I mentioned this already, but every episode of the Pyramid of Power does end with suggestions for solutions. It also ends with, if you want to learn more, watch this documentary, read this book, do your own deep diving. Because my goal was to take all of the best research that's already available, combine it with my own research, and make it 30 minutes or less. So the majority of the episodes are 30 minutes or less. There's a few that go beyond that, but it's been really rewarding. I'll say, Clayton, that over the last five years, I've gotten messages from people who've told me they've used the Pyramid of Power to homeschool their kids. That they, they've, you know, somebody told me just the other day they're getting their 15 year old son to watch it. One of their 18 year old kids is watching it. My goal is that this is going to be something that will be evergreen and that can live well beyond 2025 and can be a reference point for people who are just starting this journey. But not to sort of tell them, like, hey, everything's hopeless, we're screwed. There's all these people controlling the world. But maybe give them some ideas on how we can take some of that power back. And then of course, by being informed, we're more capable of making better decisions and deciding how we move forward.
- [80:44]
Clayton Morris
At the end of it. Would you say that after all of this research, is there a possibility that you might kick back on the easy chair and say, you know what? There's no one running this show. It's just a shit show and it's all to chance. None of these groups, you know what, all of these people point to this. But you know what, at the end of the day, it is just sort of the natural order of things and there's really no one running the show. Go.
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Derek Bros
I'm definitely leaving my mind open to that possibility. I'll say this, I'm about halfway done with the script right now and I still haven't like written my conclusion. It's not like something I'm approaching where I already know how I'm going to end it. You know, I'm going to go through all the different opinions and I'm revisiting a lot of my old research. And so I'm not kind of coming into this with my own, like, all right, I already know I'm going to point a finger at the Jews or I'm going to point a finger at the Jesuits or whatever. I'm, I'm reading and studying all those. I'm revisiting my old research that, you know, I did when I first woke up and deciding what still holds true. Because in my experience, sometimes we, we when we were first kind of waking up, you consume a lot of material and you might look back and realize actually some of those things that I held onto in the beginning, they're not as actually accurate or true as I thought. Like there's a piece of there that's some true, but maybe it's not completely true. So I am definitely approaching even my own writing with this Conclusion with an open mind. And yeah, I might get to the point and say, you know, what, these groups are there, but I don't think we can conclusively say any of them are at the top or we can't say, you know, it's being run. Because I do think what your comment there points to is another important aspect of this, that we are playing a role, you know, in many ways, if we only. If we spend all of our time just obsessing over who's at top, obviously I think that's an important question. That's why I'm doing this project. But if we spend all our time doing that, then what are we, you know, we're missing out on opportunities to take action in our own lives, to become more independent, to, you know, grow our own food, to just whatever solutions you want to pursue, to try to be as free from these systems as possible instead of obsessing and watching podcast, podcast, reading book after book, and oftentimes making yourself very miserable. And, and if you're, if you're, if you're stuck in fear, if you're stuck in anger, if you feel like things are hopeless, the big they, whoever they may be, have already won, right?
- [82:48]
Clayton Morris
Oh, that's a great point. You're totally consumed by it, and you're not spending time with your family and kissing your kids and this is consuming you, then they've absolutely already won. And I think a way it takes away our own agency. You're right about that. That. So, Derek, where can people find the series and get ready for the final episode? Where can people go?
- [83:06]
Derek Bros
Yeah, so right now, the best place is thepyramidofpower.net that's got all 16 episodes available there. I ask everybody to excuse the Plain Bear website. I've just been so focused on finishing it. So in a couple of months, we'll revamp it, make it look all nice and fancy. But right now, everything you need is there. The video, the audio versions, the transcripts, everything is there. And I'll also mention you can find it at my main website, theconsciousresistance.com and if anybody is interested in supporting us, this entire project has been crowdfunded. Over the last five years. We've raised just over $40,000 that has been just completely donated. And all that's done, I haven't taken a dime from it. That's just gone to pay my amazing, talented editors who take my research, take my audio narration and make it something that's worthy of watching. So if anybody's interested in contributing to our final crowdfunding for this last episode. You can go to the consciousresistance.com There's a little banner at the top and you can click that. And we appreciate all the support. And most of all, though, what matters, just share it. Just share this information out. I've been working on this for five years and every day new people are discovering it. And as I said, I do think this is going to be a project that I'm going to promote for the rest of my life. The plan is, once we're done, is to turn it into DVDs, USB drives, and I'm also going to be turning all the scripts into a companion book so people who prefer to read this information can have access to it too.
- [84:23]
Clayton Morris
Wow. Yeah, it's the project of a lifetime, right? It's great. That's great, Derek. Well, thank you so much for coming on, sharing your thoughts here with us on the as you approach this final, final documentary piece of this and it's been fascinating to watch throughout this process. Derek, great to see you. Thank you so much.
- [84:39]
Derek Bros
Thank you, Clayton.
- [84:40]
Clayton Morris
Thanks so much, Derek. Well, that's going to do it for us today on this Monday. So great to have you all here. Please, if you're not already subscribed, it's free to follow us and subscribe on. Whether you're on YouTube, whether you're in Rumble on Twitch on X, please hit that subscribe button. You can turn on the little bell notification too, so you'll be notified when we are live, which is every day at 4pm Eastern time. Once again, Natalie sends her regards. Sitting out, sitting this one out today with pneumonia. So yeah, she hopefully will be back tomorrow. Fingers crossed. So thank you guys so much for joining us on this Monday and we'll see you guys back here tomorrow.