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Trump declaring MARTIAL LAW on April 20th according to fearmonger liberals, they want civil war
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Clayton Morris
Hope you guys had a wonderful weekend. Welcome back to Redacted on this Monday. I'm Clayton Morris.
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Natalie Morris
I'm Natalie Morris. Welcome to our new set. It's a temporary but we're in transit. Thank you so much for being here with us though.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah, it is temporary so please forgive cuts and bruises and stuff. So again we're working on that over the next few weeks, the new one will be built out and everything. So thank you guys for joining us here on this Monday. Hey, I should point out that we have a loaded show for you today. A lot of interesting stories that we're going to be talking about. We're going to be talking about Trump declaring martial law. This is what Democrats are saying, of course, is going to happen on April 20th. They've been warning about this, that President Trump is going to seize power. He's going to use the U.S. military. Okay. Well, maybe that's what exactly the symbolism of that 420 taking control of the US southern border and putting military members, members of the military all across the United States to make sure that you that he's grabbing power. So we're going to talk about that. Plus Iran P. Tegseth, the direct defense secretary over the weekend saying that better get to the negotiating table or they will specifically being used massive military attacks against Iran. We're going to talk about that in today's show.
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Natalie Morris
Plus, the European Union admits that it is taking this climate money that they told you would save the planet. Oh, no. They're funneling it to left wing lobbyist groups. They're not supposed to do that. They say we're sorry, we won't do it again. But why was that okay in the first place, do you think? Why was that happening? Could it be because all European leaders are socialist monsters?
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Clayton Morris
It could be.
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Natalie Morris
That's kind of, that's the answer.
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Clayton Morris
But you already gave him the answer.
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Natalie Morris
But we're going to talk more about it.
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Clayton Morris
Also, a bombshell CIA report out that finally shows these documents about a UFO crash that happened over 30 years ago. Really fascinating story. And why are we just learning about this now? But more importantly, what actually happened during this event. We're excited, I'm excited to have James Fox on the show today. Obviously documentary filmmaker, UFO investigator to dive deep into that story and, and so much more. So very excited to have James on the show today. But we got so much news to get to. Thank you guys for subscribing and being here with us. It's free to subscribe to the show. So whether you're watching us on Rumble, on X, on. On YouTube, on Twitch. We're streaming live on all those platforms right now. So we're gonna get to.
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Natalie Morris
Clayton has kicked me under the table, telling me that I'm not looking you in the eye. I thought the camera was there. It's there. I apologize.
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Clayton Morris
There's a woman. There's a giant monitor there. So she's like, I'm just gonna stare at my stuff.
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Natalie Morris
Is my hair okay today? Seem to be a hole in his eye. Okay.
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Clayton Morris
While we were setting up the temporary studio last night, our 8 year old was in here, and she was doing exactly what you were doing. She was just, like bouncing in front of the camera.
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Natalie Morris
I apologize. I'm here now. I'm with you. We're gonna do this. This is serious news.
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James Fox
All right.
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Natalie Morris
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Clayton Morris
All right, well, if you listen to people with Trump derangement syndrome, President Trump is about to declare martial law on April 20 and use wartime powers to round up political enemies, of course. So you only have six days left to prepare for Trump's martial law. This is exactly what Democrat James Carville is saying this morning. Here it is, Democrats in full panic mode over absurd conspiracy that Trump will declare martial law on April 20th. We want to bring in Daniel McAdams. Now from the Ron Paul Institute, he is the executive director of the Ron Paul Institute to talk about this because I also want to talk about with Daniel, this and Iran, two big stories that we want to kind of get to today. Daniel, good to see you again. Welcome back to the show.
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Daniel McAdams
Thank you so much. It's great to be back with you guys.
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Clayton Morris
So let's just go through this because and you can help us make sense of this. I'm just going to go through this Gateway pundit article here. So the left is melting down. It reads once again, and this time over a tinfoil hat level conspiracy theory that President Donald Trump is preparing to declare martial law on April 20th. It's a blue and on fantasy of their own. The source of this hysteria, James Carville, he was just on the War Room where he talked about what would happen under President Trump using martial law. He says, you're so correct to be concerned about this. It's getting worse by the day. It's not going to stop getting worse. And I would be. We ought to be on high alert. And basically, Daniel, it seems like the left's panic, according to the Gateway pundit, stems from a total misreading of his January 20th executive order putting US military on the US southern border and by putting tens of thousands of forces, which he's already been doing, on the southern border. This is the source of the problem. Is that how you read it?
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Ralph Schoellhammer
Yeah.
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Daniel McAdams
When I first got the link from your team, I thought, oh, my gosh, I hope they don't believe this. This is the craziest thing I've heard. I mean, there are a lot of things to be critical of Trump about. But, but if I were Trump, I'd be happy if these were my adversaries and my enemies because they're so dumb. You know, they bring things up like this. Caravel is not doing himself or his allies any favors. Now, there are some concerns about what Trump is doing with some deportations, and that is a fact. But rather than address those specifically and on principle, they throw out this hyperbolic stuff that will basically just discredit their arguments. So will Trump do that? You know, I'm not a betting man, but I would bet that he's not going to do that. He's not going to shut down the country because we've got a border problem. So Caraval, I don't know what he's smoking these days, but it's not too strong.
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Clayton Morris
Maybe he's just trying to keep his relevancy. It seems like that. But specifically the US Military will occupy public land on the southern border to create along this sort of buffer zone that Theodore Roosevelt had put in place back in 1907. But of course, Democrats are painting this as like a land grab by the United States military. But you can see here this actual buffer zone here as it goes across the United States and it has, basically it allows the American. It's like 60 foot deep, basically, is this public land that Teddy Roosevelt put in place. So it's not a land grab. It's been there over a hundred years.
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Daniel McAdams
You have to ask yourself, why are they so opposed to stopping people from coming to this country illegally? You know, I mean, is it voters they're looking for? Maybe have a get a better platform, guys, you know, think of some better stuff to say and maybe you'll attract some voters. You know, what do they have against this? Now, there can be some problems if you over militarize, if you use the military in ways that they really shouldn't be used because they're trained to blow stuff up and kill people. And that's what we want them to do. So, you know, you can question some of that, but just to question the fact that by all objective standards, illegal border crossings have crashed since Trump has come to office. And most Americans believe that's a very good thing, you know.
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Natalie Morris
Right, right. Well, let's talk about what Democrats think, though, because a new Rutgers poll out this weekend shows that 55% of Democrats think it's okay or maybe even preferable to assassinate the president. They're fully on board with this. And over the weekend, Alex Jones was on Tucker Carlson, and if you listen to this, he says, yeah, this is, you know, this is James Carville's leading, and Democrats like it, listen.
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Pete Hegseth
And then when they knew Trump was going to win because the poll numbers were so incredible a few months before the last election last year, Raskin, Carville, Podesta, all of them said civil war conditions. We're going to need to have uprisings. Carvel said, that Trump's coming to kill you. We got to rise up, Carvel said, and others. And they are clearly escalating with the Tesla attacks and the swatting attacks and the calls for violence. The 55% of, you know, liberal Democrats in a study want Trump killed. They are embracing, you know, real terrorism, real domestic terrorism. And that's building towards what I believe is in the cards, because you see the Democrat pundits and their operatives everywhere before the election and after it, in the last 78 you days or so, saying once he got in office. Trump and Tom Homan are going to kill migrants. And when they do, there's going to be an uprising. And, well, Trump's not going to go mow down people at Eli Lalia demonstration. You also them saying Trump supporters are going to attack black people or where would black people be alone in big numbers? A church, university. Trump supporters are going to kill black people. And we know a lot of the globalist groups have been funding white supremacist groups and domestic terror groups and basically run them historically.
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Clayton Morris
Okay, so.
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Natalie Morris
So one of the things that he goes on to say is what Democrats don't know is that if they were to succeed, the eventuality of what happens if President Trump were in fact assassinated would be far worse. But he doesn't extrapolate. So what do you think would happen in terms of far worse? Total chaos. What is your read of that?
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Daniel McAdams
Well, I have to say it's very sad. You know, I moved to verily post communist Eastern Europe right as the wall fell. And what I saw there is families that were so involved in politics, it meant so much to them that they literally would hate other family members. And I remember at the time thinking how insane this is. We weren't like that in America. We had differences, but we didn't flip out and alienate family members. Politics in America has become so important to Americans that they will literally talk about assassinating someone. Folks, get real. It's never going to matter for you as much who is the president. It's not going to matter in your everyday lives. It's very, very sad to see this. And that's why conservatives like us and libertarians, the argument is to reduce the role of government in our lives so you don't have this insane derangement syndrome.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah. And it is out of hand. I mean, the derangement is crazy right now. And you know, as a lot of people in our chat room are saying right now, you know, Alex Jones nailed this. I mean, he nailed this repeatedly. And he nails. He's nailing it again right now. So this interview with Tucker predates this James Carville commentary, which is crazy to me. He was talking about James Carville making these, you know, that we're going to see Tom Holman, the US Military is going to kill immigrants. And then here we have it, like two days later. It's kind of insane. I know people can say whatever they want about Alex Jones, but he nails it. I mean, repeatedly. And just to be clear about this Department of Defense jurisdiction over these lands, Daniel, the soldiers have the right to Detain illegal aliens as they would if they were trespassing on a United States military base. In other words, this 60 foot plot of land treats that 60 foot plot of land as if it's a military base. So the military then has the right to detain these illegal aliens until they're handed over to immigration authorities as if they were just invading Fort Bragg. Isn't that, Is that the way you read it as well?
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Daniel McAdams
I think it's a great deterrent as well. I mean, under Biden, if they got over there, they'd hand them a WIC card or you know, a debit card here, a couple thousand bucks on it, you know. Right. And they're gonna. What are they gonna do? They're gonna pass the word back to their relatives where they came from. Hey, not going to believe this. When you get there, they give you a card and you get free stuff, you know. So having the military on the, on the border as a deterrent, what are they going to say when they call back? Man, it was terrible. I couldn't get through. There were guys with big guns. Forget it, guys. Cancel the crossing. So that's what you want? You want a deterrent?
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Natalie Morris
Well, not only that is that they are unsafe on the way there as they go through these drug lands. They are pre the that they're victims of predators, which are the cartel on the south end of the border. And so those people, those dead ladies who have been raped and kidnapped and their babies taken, those dead ladies tale, no tales like Davy Jones Locker. Right. And so how can we get that word? It's not just. I mean, the US soldiers are the least of your worries on your way north, Right?
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James Fox
Yeah.
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Daniel McAdams
The predators, the coyotes, the child traffickers, the perverts and weirdos, I mean, they just thrive in that kind of an environment. So absolutely, you think about kids crossing the border in areas like that. So, I mean, the soldiers are there, I think, as a great deterrent to people. It's no longer open season. You can't come in, you know, and I'm in favor of lots of immigration if it's legal. And I think a lot of recently arrived people are in favor, but they're among the most opposed to illegal immigration because they waited in line and they did it the right way.
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Clayton Morris
Right? Yeah. I was talking to a group of Mexican Americans who were here. They waited in line to get their citizenship and they. This Mexican American said, said the greatest threat to me and my living and my way of life is Mexicans who come here illegally. I just about fell out of my chair when he said it, but he was admitting it openly. And he's right because they'll take his job. And so I find that absolutely fascinating. I want to talk about Iran here before we get you out of here, Daniel. Over the weekend, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth was on with Maria Bartiromo and was asked about Iran, whether these negotiations are moving forward, direct negotiations with Iran, not just using Israel as like an end around proxy to get there. And here's what he had to say about attacking Iran if Iran doesn't want to come to the table. Watch.
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Natalie Morris
We've had direct talks yesterday. They began in the past. It's been indirect talks with a mediator. But there's Steve Witkoff meeting with the foreign minister of Iran. What can he tell us?
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Alex Jones
Well, I can tell you that President Trump is dead serious on this issue. He's dead serious that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. He's said that for 20 years. He's been consistent. That is clear. He's dead serious that he wants it done at the negotiating table. He wants it done peacefully. And that's why he's going straight to these talks. He set that deadline. These were productive talks yesterday. I don't want to get ahead of our skis. Steve Widkoff does a fantastic job, but it was a good step and they're going to go at it again on Saturday. But he's also dead serious that if we can't face figure this out at the negotiating table, then there are other options to include my department to ensure that Iran never has a nuclear bomb. We hope we never get there. We really do, Maria. But what we're doing with the Houthis and what we're doing in the region, we've shown a capability to go far, to go deep and to go big. And again, we don't want to do that, but if we have to, we will, to prevent the nuclear bomb in Iran's hands.
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Clayton Morris
You know, Daniel, when I read that, I want to hear that. I want to be a positive person and think that, yes, we want negotiation, negotiation. But it seems like there's people surrounding the president who absolutely want us to go to war with Iran. And I know that firsthand. Actually, there's people near Trump that absolutely want to follow the Netanyahu plan to go to war. It sounds like just hearing Hegseth talk there, it doesn't really sound like they want these negotiations to work out. Am I wrong about that?
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Daniel McAdams
The thing that really struck me is you're offering up our war against The Houthis as a show of success. You know, dude, you spent a billion dollars in three weeks, and all you did is blow up a tribal gathering and blow up the drinking water facilities for 50,000 people. You are not having success in Yemen. That's not your success. But when I got the clip from your team, that was the first. I hadn't seen it before. That's the first thought I had. There is a group that are very close to Trump that want him to fail in these talks. They want war now. He said, we'll do anything we can to prevent them from getting a bomb. Well, let me tell you something, Pete. Tulsi Gabbard just went before Congress a couple of weeks ago and said, once again, the entirety of the United States intelligence community asserts that Iran is not working toward a nuclear weapon. They do not have a nuclear weapon. It's been the same since 2003, when they stopped working on a nuclear weapon. So good news, Pete Hegseth, stop rattling your saber. Let some diplomacy take. Take precedent here. They're not building a bomb. Tulsi said, they're not building a bomb. So what's the big deal? They are creating something. They're trying to put Trump in a box to where that's his only option, and that's really dangerous.
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Natalie Morris
Well, during the Biden administration, Secretary of State Antony Blinken said, well, we need to see Iran working with the iaea, which they have, and the IAEA has said several times we've inspected every gram of uranium. And so Americans need to start asking the question, is this weapons of mass destruction? Because that was a lie. You have not proven that Iran has a nuclear weapon. Even let's leave aside the question that Israel has a nuclear weapon, Britain has a nuclear weapon. So why do we decide which friends we want to have them and which we don't? That's also a pertinent question. But shall we collectively rise up and say, this is weapons of destruction narrative? It's nonsense. Knock it off.
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Daniel McAdams
And Tom Cotton said as much. The senator said as much a couple of days ago, a few days ago, said, everyone's going to say this is going to be so hard. It's going to be essentially, he said, it's going to be a cakewalk. They said, where did we hear that before? That was 2002. And all the neocons lined up to tell us it's going to be a cakewalk. Even Netanyahu said, guys, if you take out Saddam, it's going to be peace in the Middle East. Well, we've had nothing but the opposite since we listened to Netanyahu. And these people, are they, who are they working for? Netanyahu or the American people? That's what I would like to know.
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Clayton Morris
Glenn Deason tweeted this. Daniel. Daniel. Threatening the use of force is illegal under international law, but near obligatory under the rules based international order. It seems like that's the case. Right. We've just sort of thrown, we've just sort of thrown out international law at this point.
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Daniel McAdams
Well, I mean, given Iran has the most disincentive to not get a weapon. In other words, for the US Attacking all of Israel's enemies in the region, the only thing seemingly that can protect Iran is if they do get one. So if we actually didn't want them to get one, we should stop getting involved in the Middle east attacking all of the enemies of Israel. Let Israel handle its own, its own affairs in the Middle East. You know, stop paying for them. Stop giving me weapons. They're big boys. Let them grow up and act like grownups.
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Clayton Morris
Right, Grover? Lord in our, in our rumble chat says there's no stopping the war machine. Your only hope is to care for your neighbor as yourself and pray they do the same. Are we down to praying now that we just hope that these war hawks surrounding Trump who are having it bending his ear keep, you know, our clearer heads prevail here and we actually don't go to war?
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Daniel McAdams
Well, I, I'm a big, I'm a big proponent of praying. Prayer is, prayer can move mountains and certainly our Lord hopefully will guide the hands because guess what, he's the prince of peace. So if you want peace, you know, they can wrap themselves in religion and go for war. But that's not how it worked out back then, guys.
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Natalie Morris
Well, let me tell you this. During the Trump inauguration, his speech said we will be known for the wars we win and the wars we do not get into. And I held to that like a baby blanket. And I'm going to keep doing that. So let's join together and remind the President that he promised us not to get into new wars. Thank you so much, Dan, for your contribution.
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Clayton Morris
Thanks, Dan. Great to see you.
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Daniel McAdams
Take care, guys. Great to see you guys again. Take care.
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Clayton Morris
All right, more news to come here on this Monday. We're going to talk about the aviation disasters that we've been experiencing in the United States. What is going on here? And most recent one tragically in the Hudson river, of course, a helicopter propeller flying off both propellers flying off the tail propeller and the main propeller flying Off. But why is the media so, like, late to tell us, like, who's piloting these things? Why are they trying to protect the pilots and all of this? We're going to talk about aviation disasters, plus we're going to talk about the EU admitting to this green scam, right?
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Natalie Morris
That's right. The EU was taking this idea that we need to fight climate change, raising money on it and funneling it to left wing lobbyist groups. I know you're not surprised, but it's still outrageous. You're not surprised because you've been shown this template in the United States. Now we're seeing, yes, it exists in most socialist governments. And that's where I think socialism breeds. Would we say it's a fertile ground, the eu? Yes. Yeah, the EU is fertile ground for socialism. And that's. So we're gonna talk to Ralph Schoellhamer about that. But before we do.
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Clayton Morris
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Natalie Morris
While the European Commission admitted recently that it has been using EU funds that were supposed to fight climate change for financing Left wing NGOs and climate organizations with the aim of silencing the voices of conservatives in this secret influence operation. The EU Life program was supposed to be, you know, doing what they say, fighting climate change, but instead they were financing Left wing NGOs, non governmental organizations and climate organizations. And now they've said, oops, sorry, we're not going to do that again. Do we believe them? Well, Ralph Schollhammer joins us from Austria. He is the host of the Hammer time show on YouTube and an expert on European politics. Ralph, I know you're so surprised, right? So surprised.
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Ralph Schoellhammer
And a personal friend of the show, I was recently told, I think that's very important.
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Natalie Morris
We did, in fact we called you a friend.
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Clayton Morris
Capital F. Yes, friend of the show. Friend of the show.
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Ralph Schoellhammer
No, that makes me, that filled me with a lot of joy and a lot of pride. So I'm very grateful that I always have the occasion to speak to you and the audience. I'm truly grateful. Yeah, it is, it is not a surprise. But it's even more insidious than this because let's just look at the amount over the last seven years. We are talking about 7 billion euros. I think that's around $9 billion. If, if I Got the exchange rate approximately right. So these are vast sums. And by the way, just as a comparison, I think it was about a small amount in the millions. That is the reason that Marine Le Pen has for now at least, been banned from running for the presidency in France, where she, according to polls, would be the front runner and most likely to win. So you see, again, there is democracy and then there is democracy in Europe. But what is even more insidious is you had this kind of game that was being played. So the European Union gave money to these NGOs. These NGOs were then writing reports that the climate catastrophe is nigh and the world is going to end tomorrow. And then these reports that were funded by the EU were used by the EU to justify their climate policies. And all the things that pretty much established a contact between EU and I, Right, Anti nuclear, net zero, all the green madness that we've been talking about for years. So this has been a circle industry that was very lucrative for all of those involved. And of course, everybody who was involved was in one way or another, in touch or related to or in a personal or professional capacity, very close to Europe's left wing party. So it's not a surprise. I'm very relieved in the sense that this is slowly but surely coming to the surface. But I hasten to add, it is not so different from what the Trump administration has uncovered regarding US aid. I mean, just to give an example, one person that I'm sure that many of you American listeners are familiar with that got millions out of the U.S. agency for International Development was Bill Kristol. And I think Bill Kristol lives like, what, within the closer suburban area of Washington D.C. i mean, how much of U.S. aid money for international development actually left the Beltway? So these have all been slush funds for close to government or close to EU institutions. And what they built is not so much a deep state. I would say it's actually a shadow state that constantly exists next to whoever is in government. And this brings me to a point that I've been making on your show many times. There has been in the past at least a difference between in office and being in power. And the right sometimes was in office, but the left always was in power. And I'm very happy to see that under Donald Trump, disappears to change. Donald Trump is not going to be perfect, right? Every man is flawed, every individual is flawed. But I think in these areas he's moving very much in the right direction. And apparently it's contagious in a good Way also in Europe that now we find these things out that they'll be brought to daylight.
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Natalie Morris
But can we just reiterate how this has made Europeans life worse? So while they're doing this and pumping you with these BS studies that they funded in order to continue to raise money, it's such a grift. Europeans have gone without, without. We've covered the Dutch farmers, many of them put out of business, the, the livestock farmers. We've talked about how, how many building projects don't get off the ground because of, oh, we have to make a new rule because we have a new project. It goes way beyond just you need a slow flow shower now. But actually Europeans have been asked to live with less because of this.
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Clayton Morris
Well, and can I just say, Ralph, also, it's intentional. It's intentional, right? This is an intentional destruction of Europe. We had Christine Andersen on the show, member of Parliament from Germany just the other day and she said, yeah, this is an intentional strategy to bring down. And it's all part of this sort of globalist agenda, is it not?
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Natalie Morris
Well, give us some more examples of like the way that you see that you butt up against walls trying to live in Europe against these brick walls that have the facade of green climate intention.
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Ralph Schoellhammer
Well, if you go back to what you just mentioned, for example, one of the movements that started it all, the Dutch farmers, which I think are always a very good example of this. The problem we have is not so much that there is a globalist elite. I would argue, and I'm happy to have a conversation, a discussion about this, that to some extent elites are always somewhat universal and somewhat globalist, the jet setters and all. I think this has always been the case. That is not so much the new phenomenon of the contemporary elites. I think what makes them different is that so many of the causes that they nail to their mast are directly opposed to the interest of a majority of the people. We have what Rob Henderson is calling luxury beliefs, which are the beliefs that the elites hold. But they are, as the term says, they are luxury and they are rich enough and they can shield themselves from the consequences of their own ideological leanings. But of course the majority of the people is paying quite literally, but also metaphorically a very high price for it. I mean, take the issue of migration for example. I mean the Europeans, and I would say also the Americans have been opposed to mass migration since the 1980s. It's not a new phenomenon. And the elites more or less stuck the finger to their ear, said no, no, no, we cannot hear you and everybody who's against mass migration is a Nazi or a fascist or an extreme right winger. And it made them feel good about themselves. And I think this is one of the main things that drives the globalist movement. It is not so much the financial interest, because all of them are very rich already. It is more this kind of messiah complex. If you want this idea, how can you feel good about yourself? And that is if you promote policies that are horrible for the working class and for the middle class, but if you are rich enough to afford it, then you can do it. And I think this is the big issue we have with what I call the status quo elites, because we see now that people want change, so they vote for parties that could cause change. Trump in the United States, Le Pen In France, the AfD in Germany, the Freedom Party in Austria. But what they do now is, on the one hand, they weaponize the judicial system. And the other thing they do quite openly is, as we saw in Romania, they simply annula. Cancel elections if the result is not what they're hoping for. And they do it ever more blatantly. But let me say one more thing, because I don't want to monologue for too long, but there is this most recent cover page of the Economist that in seriousness says it's a picture of the Statue of Liberty that has moved to Europe because Europe is now the land of the free and the land of freedom. Europe is now a continent.
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Natalie Morris
That's like a cartoon.
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Ralph Schoellhammer
Oh, it is. I mean, you can no longer take these. I was always giving them the benefit of the doubt because I'm generally positively inclined towards humanity, which is getting more and more difficult. But they really believed that stuff. I mean, to give you one quick example, recently police accosted a man in the United Kingdom who was saying that people in England should speak English. My God, the horror. You had somebody in Germany making a meme, a pretty funny one, a meme about the Minister of the Interior holding up a sign saying, I hate freedom of speech. He was now sentenced to seven months in prison. And I can go on and on and on. There are examples after example, after example. And then you have a magazine like the Economist saying, europe, land of the free. Yes, if you go with the program. But you could also say, well, if you were a Bolshevik, then the Soviet Union was the land of the free, right? And if you happen to be an Aryan and not a Jew in Nazi Germany, you could say it was the land of the free. We're moving more and more, I think, into the farcical and satirical part of this. But it's frustrating because a new world would mean that those who are in power now would have to give up that power. And as we can see, they do everything they can to prevent or they do everything they can to avoid giving up power.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah. I mean, the Economist is perfect to lining your birdcage with. It's a liberal. Yeah. Liberal drivel. You had Keir Starmer in the White House just a few weeks ago, face to face with J.D. vance, when J.D. vance, Vice President, called him out about clamping down on freedoms in. In England. And he lied right to his face, saying that that's not happening, but that's what these leaders are doing. And that's exactly. They know what's happening and they're championing it.
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Natalie Morris
But Article 11.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah.
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James Fox
No.
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Natalie Morris
Of the EU charter still does allow for freedom of expression. So why can someone arrested in Germany not appeal to an EU court? Is what happens there? Or are they just gonna. They need to take an eraser to that.
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Ralph Schoellhammer
Oh, no, this they tried, for example. The candidate didn't. Was appealing to the European Court because he argued justifiably. So what happened to him was illegal, was unjustified, and the European Court just said, no, this is not our jurisdiction. They just pretty much cleaned the hands of it. You're absolutely right. And the problem we have in Europe, as you have it in the United States, is that there is an activist or an ideological judiciary. It's completely absurd to claim that, when we all know that, particularly in the universities, students are marinated and indoctrinated into a certain worldview, that this would not also apply to people who study law and then become lawyers, judges and what have you. And this is precisely what you see in Europe. And the worst thing is that they're ideologically indoctrinated to say that whenever you do this, whenever you prevent democracy from actually doing what democracy does, meaning getting new people into power, giving new people in charge. They say, you can't allow this to happen because then you risk democracy. So we have to save democracy. And what Keir Starmer does. Keir Starmer is, and I say this without trying to be hyperbolic, I think he is, in a way, maybe not a totalitarian, but he's definitely an authoritarian. What is happening in the United Kingdom, it's not as bad in the uk. Sorry, it's not as bad in France, it's not as bad in Germany. What is happening in the UK is basically that this is no longer a country that has freedom of speech. If you can get arrested, if you can get accosted, if you can get intimidated by the police for voicing your opinion, you do not have freedom of speech. If you have legal constructs like non criminal hate incidents where the police can accost you even though you did not commit a crime, you are no longer a free country. You are trying to intimidate the people because that's the goal. It's as Mao said, punish one, educate a thousand. And this is what they try to do in the UK and other parts of Europe.
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Clayton Morris
Ralph Schoellhamer, always a voice of reason in Europe. Thank you for holding truth to power over there. We really appreciate it. Ralph, great to see you as always. Thank you.
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Ralph Schoellhammer
Thanks for having me.
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Clayton Morris
Always. Thanks, Ralph. All right, we've got more news to get to here on your Monday. We're going to talk about this UFO incident. CIA documents showing a really startling and as they described it, almost like a fierce incident with actually alien creatures. And I'm going to save it for you because it's unbelievable. James Fox is going to be joining us. Of course, UFO investigator, documentary filmmaker. I hope, I hope you've seen his phenomenal documentaries over the years. I like the phenomenon and is new in the program. So James Fox is going to be joining us in a moment. We're also going to talk about those aviation disasters. Why multiple aviation disasters in back to back sequence? We're going to talk about that in a second.
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Clayton Morris
Well, six people died in a helicopter crash last week and last week in the Hudson river near the Jersey Shore. Now the Tor company is shutting down for good. But what is this all about? This private charter, you know, plunged into the Hudson river in New York City. Gustin Escobar, president CEO of Siemens, was in Spain. And the pilot lost their lives in this crash along with his three kids and his wife. Really tragic. On the same day, two American Airlines regional jets clipped their wings on the ground at Ronald Reagan National Airport. Former pilot Boeing whistleblower Jim Desmond joins us now to talk about all of this and more. Jim, great to see you. As a former pilot. I want to get your sense of are we seeing like an enhanced or an abundance of these crashes recently or because of social media, do you think we're learning more about these crashes?
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Jim Desmond
Well, it seems to be both ways. Be honest with that. You know, the news is instantaneous anymore. And so normally when you hear wingtips clipping each other on an airport, normally isn't big news. But when it comes behind the crash at Reagan where you had the American Airlines and a helicopter and then this helicopter coming apart out of New York and so the clipping wings is normally something, it actually happens more often than you think just because the gates and taxiways are really kind of tight. And Reagan Airport, a tight lit airport in and of itself. Just, just a small footprint there with all the traffic that they get. So I think it is a little bit sensationalized. But people, you know, deserve to know what's, what's happening.
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Natalie Morris
Now, is it normal that we don't have very many answers about, say, the plane that flipped in Toronto or the civilian aircraft that was hit by the Blackhawk, it seems like the media cycle of that would continue. But the media is very like this happens moving on. Is it because the Trump administration sucks so much air out of the news cycle, or are we, are we waiting for answers that we may not get because there's a lack of curiosity?
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Jim Desmond
Well, the ntsb, the National Transportation Safety Board that actually does all of the investigations into just about every crash that ever happens. And it takes them months and months sometimes to piece it all together and to put, you know, gather all the information, particularly on that helicopter that just, you know, looked like it just fell apart, the rotor, you know, as we're getting better and better images from people that. Where it looks like the helicopter and the rotor just separated from each other, in which that's just a very rare, you know, one in a couple million chances of that happening. But, you know, we're learning a lot more as time goes on. And that airplane that, you know, rolled over, it was Delta that rolled over, and luckily everybody survived. That was kind of a freak accident, that one.
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Ralph Schoellhammer
And.
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Jim Desmond
But fortunately, everybody lived through that. And with the wings getting ripped off was quite, you know, quite a story and quite a picture of just that, that happening. And then everybody lives. So, you know, the air traffic controllers are under a lot of stress. And unfortunately, I think at Reagan Airport and many of the airports around the US I still fly little airplanes occasionally. And if you're going anywhere near a larger airport, sometimes they'll say no training available or no practice landings are available. So that it's just airplanes coming in and out and they're trying to keep training and other things at bay, particularly on busy weekends and busy travel times. So the air traffic controllers, it's a very stressful job. And for pilots, particularly when you're taxiing and things like that, that's when you're sort of the busiest. As soon as you get pushed back from the gate, you're running checklists, you're talking to ground control, and then you get out in line and you're waiting. You're talking the tower and then you're talking to departure. You're taking the airplane off and getting it configured, gear up, flaps up, all of those types of things. You're very busy for about the first half hour or more when you push back from the gate, and then about that last half hour when you're in for a landing. That's, unfortunately, when most accidents happen on both of those, you know, takeoffs and landings, and that's when the pilots are the busiest.
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Clayton Morris
I got two questions for you. One is about the, you know, a lot of people pointing out in our chat room saying it's dei. It's very easy to sort of paint a broad brush and say, this is all, you know, air traffic control, dei, pilot, dei, hiring. You know, we're not going to hire men. Specifically, we. That was a few Weeks ago, another story that we covered here on the show. So is DEI at the heart of a lot of these issues? And number two, are there any stories of these aviation disasters over the past few months that we've seen since President Trump has been in office where you say, well, I still, this doesn't make any sense to me. Like I want answers on this particular story because this just doesn't pass the smell test.
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Jim Desmond
Well, as far as the DEI, I'm not sure what the FAA's hiring standards are. If they got lowered because of DEI, then absolutely. But I'm not really quite sure, you know, what they, what they had done as far as air traffic controllers. And they still have to, even if their standards are lower to get people in, as long as they're still doing the same training. But if they lowered the standards for training, then absolutely, it's dei, then, you know, which, which should not be permitted, particularly with a job that this high, high stress level. And you gotta be on top of your game 100% of the time, otherwise people's lives are at stake. The helicopter American Airlines crash is to me, that one was, that was the fault. That was human error on a couple of parts. Primarily the tower should have told that helicopter, that military helicopter to stay clear of that landing path, even if they were at the. I understood the helicopter was at the 340ft instead of 200ft. Even at 200ft, that's way too close to go underneath a landing airliner. So that the air traffic control should have had the heads up and said, hey, stay clear until this traffic lands in front of you. Those two airplanes should, the helicopter and the American Airlines should not have been in the same airspace at the same time. Yes, Reagan is busy, but they should have, that should have never have happened. And to me, that one does need some answers, particularly I think on the air traffic control side.
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Natalie Morris
Yeah, well, my father is, he flies small planes as well. And one of the things he says is that aviation is the second most safe way to travel behind the American school bus. He says that that is what he was taught in flight school. So what can we as passengers take from this? Can we still sort of have the trust in aviation as a mode of transportation? And is that right? Do you know that? Have you also heard that statistic about the American school bus?
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Jim Desmond
I haven't heard this American School Bus, but I used to commute. I live in San Diego and I used to drive to la. I was based out of Los Angeles and then I flew, you know, to whatever Routes they, they had me on. And the most dangerous part was driving between San Diego and la and then I'd go fly a three day trip around the world and, and that would be the safer than driving to and from home. So I wasn't on a school bus. But just, you know, driving the LA freeways was not, I felt safer in, in the, in the air for that. But I really, you know, don't think, I think aviation is still, you know, one of the safest means of travel. And you know, there's hundreds of thousands of flights a day and there's hundreds of thousands of passengers being carried a day. Statistically, you know, driving in an automobile is much more dangerous, I think. And when an airplane crashes, it's much more lack of another term, sensationalized. And because they're usually very horrific crashes and they're not, you know, they gather more walkers than car accidents. But I still think aviation is very safe. And as long as we keep our standards high, we don't just fall into the DEI scenarios and make sure we hire our merit and ability. You know, the airlines, you know, they used to do that and I think they still are, but those were criteria that you had to have when I, when I got hired, you had to have 2020 vision. If you didn't, you weren't going to get hired. So they've lowered those types of limitations. But hopefully for ability and being able to safely handle the aircraft is job one.
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Clayton Morris
Jim Desmond, FORMER PILOT I think I called you a Boeing whistleblower earlier. My apologies on that. I had conflated notes here myself, but no, but you know, at least keeping the aviation industry honest. And yeah, I hope we can get away from this DEI stuff. I know what's been happening in a couple of different airlines. Jim, great to see you as always. Thanks for joining us again and great to see you.
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Jim Desmond
Thanks, Clayton. Hey, and I flew Boeings all my career. They're safe.
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Clayton Morris
Okay, there you go. All right.
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Natalie Morris
He's not a Boeing whistleblower.
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Clayton Morris
Right. Well, we know what happens to them, right?
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Natalie Morris
That's why we want to make absolutely sure keep this guy safe, not a Boeing whistleblower.
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Clayton Morris
Jim, great to see you. All right, thanks so much.
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Jim Desmond
Thanks a lot.
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Clayton Morris
All right, coming up here on the show, we're going to talk about this new CIA UFO UFO report that's just been released. James Fox. We're thrilled to have James on the show. I've been wanting to have James on for like a couple years now, so really excited about that. It's going viral about this new, this new CIA UFO document we're going to talk about with him, of course. And also James has his brand new documentary that just hit recently. If you haven't seen it, you have to. We'll talk about that, but first want to tell you about our friends at American Financing. With everything that's happening in the economy, it feels like we're walking on shaky ground. Prices stuck at really high levels. You know, is anything affordable anymore? I mean, they look at home prices, for crying out loud. It's no wonder many people are relying on credit cards just to cover the gaps. Right now, a lot of young people relying on credit cards. Credit card debt is skyrocketing and it's leaving a lot of people stressed out. If you're a homeowner, you don't have to face this uncertainty alone. Our friends at American Financing can help you take control. They can help you access the equity in your home to help you pay down the high interest credit card debt, giving you the peace of mind and real savings.
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Daniel McAdams
In 2017, the New York Times published.
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Jim Desmond
A story exposing a secret government program investigating UFOs.
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Clayton Morris
That story was kind of a catalyst for a lot of things that have happened since members of Congress started to.
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Alex Jones
Ask questions, instruments report.
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Natalie Morris
There is something there.
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Jim Desmond
There are flight characteristics that we can't explain.
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Clayton Morris
UAPs are unexplained. It's true, they need to be investigated. Here we are having a hearing where just a few years ago we didn't even acknowledge that these things were real. There he is. James Fox is the man behind these great documentaries and he's a fantastic UFO investigator. And James, I always. What I love about your work is you come at it from a real, I think almost like I should say, skeptical point of view and a real clear headed point of view when you approach these stories. So I wanted to have you on because this story seemed like right up your alley. First maybe you want to give a, maybe paint a picture for us what you think of this story. The CIA document from. That's resurfaced.
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James Fox
Absolutely. So one thing that I can say, obviously we're looking at a document that was previously classified that leaked. George Knapp has a bunch of previously classified documents that he sort of snuck out of Russia in the mid-90s that revealed incursions from UFOs over, you know, ICM ICBM base in Ukraine where the UFOs allegedly activated a couple missiles that were directed to the United States and started a missile launch, a missile launch which was terrifying. And then after I guess that the Russians developed a no hands down no shoot policy against UFOs because of obviously they're displayed or their exhibited technology flies rings around what we can do. But I will say I did speak directly with a General Parviz Jafari in Tehran, Iran who had a really dramatic encounter with a UFO in 1975 or 76 and he tried to shoot it out of the sky. Famous incident, very famous incident. And I spoke to him personally. I flew him into Washington D.C. to testify at the National Press Club with Leslie Kane. And he said that he thought he was going to have to jump out of his airplane in the middle of the night because this UFO froze everything in his cockpit and like it read his mind as he was about to shoot this thing, he's going to literally has it in his sights, he's going to pull the trigger and his airplane just completely freezes up. So there is a policy adopted, I think internationally when you see UFOs, don't take a hostile aggressive position. Just leave them alone and they won't bother you.
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Natalie Morris
So reading that's kind of ballsy though, to think about even shooting it. Did he tell you why he thought to do that? Was it being aggressive towards him?
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James Fox
Well, no, because he said, you know, when you see something, as you're trained as a military person, a fighter pilot, when you see something in the sky that you're unable to identify and it's not revealing its identity, you got to shoot it out of the sky. You have to think of it as potentially hostile. And this thing apparently was flying rings around his F4 Phantom jet and. But he got a lock on it and he was literally said he was a bead away from pulling the trigger to try to shoot this thing out of the sky. And that's when all hell broke loose.
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Natalie Morris
So, which begs the question, if they can read his mind, why can't they teleport or you know, telepathically say, we're not hostile, we're not doing, you know, like this is just so many questions.
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James Fox
It's really interesting. You know, I interviewed this gentleman years later. I flew him out to Washington D.C. along with another, a number of other military and government officials from seven countries. And he was reflecting back on the incident and he said, you know, James, one of my biggest regrets was I didn't try and make peaceful contact with this thing. Instead I took an aggressive hostile approach and tried to shoot it out of the sky when it wasn't threatening me in any way. And it's interesting, you know, there are other documents that have leaked out since that alleged incident in. I think it was late. Well, gosh, it was actually late 80s, but there was a landing case that happened in Moscow, trying to remember the name of it, Von, von Nevsky, Vonineth, 1989. And these aliens allegedly made contact with children. And that happens all around the world. So you wonder if the military is going to take a hostile position. Perhaps. And if you did want to make contact. And again I'm speculating, but it's informed speculation. I would probably rather make contact with children than fighter jets.
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Natalie Morris
Sure.
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Clayton Morris
So I want to go through this document a little bit here. The, the CIA document here. So what, I mean, what is read like, it reads like science fiction, but according to the CIA document five Humanoid beings reportedly emerged from the wreckage. They fused together, and then they admitted a blinding flash of light. Then they allegedly turned.
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James Fox
Yeah, this was after they were shot.
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Clayton Morris
Down, apparently, which is even more amazing. Then they turned. After they were shot down, they turned 23 soldiers into stone. Only two men survived. The remains were reportedly moved to a secret lab near Moscow, where scientists found the soldier's molecular structure matched that of limestone. What the hell? I mean, I've heard a lot of UFO stories over the years. Of course I'm fascinated by it, but I've never heard of a story like this. Have you?
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James Fox
In Greek mythology, I've heard.
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Jim Desmond
I could.
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James Fox
I could tell you of dozens and dozens of close encounters of the third kind. That's when people report entities connected with the craft all around the world. China, Russia, Australia, Africa, Brazil. I mean, the United States. We've had amazing close encounters of a third kind. Extremely well documented. But people take an aggressive position towards alleged aliens and then being turned to stone. That's a first.
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Ralph Schoellhammer
Yeah.
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Clayton Morris
I mean, Natalie brings up a great point. Greek mythology, I mean, and maybe, you know, you turn on ancient aliens, you can certainly see a lot of, you know, connections between things that have happened thousands of years ago. I mean, I don't want to make a huge leap here, but maybe there is something there.
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James Fox
Look, you know, you look at Jacques Vallee, who's one of the intellectual heavyweights within scientific community, who's investigated UFO reports for his entire career, and he's in his 80s. He wrote a book called Wonders in the sky, and it basically documents since recorded time these alleged close encounters of the third kind. Close encounters of the second kind cave art just dating back thousands and thousands of years. So it's my opinion and the opinion of many other researchers that the phenomenon is nothing new. It's been interacting with humanity since the dawn of recorded time.
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Clayton Morris
Where do you come down on disclosure right now and what you're seeing from the Trump administration? I've represented. We had Representative Luna on the show. We had Congressman Burchett on the show a few weeks ago. I mean, all trying to move in this direction, but I think Americans get, you know, get like, stuck in the mud. Like, where are we with all of this? You've been a huge asset to help in this as well.
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James Fox
That's a fantastic question. And that's one of the. One of the things I've been addressing, because people, I think, are feeling really frustrated within the UFO community. Like you've gotten. We've had three congressional hearings in the last three years. Two of which we've had high level intelligence officers testify to a bipartisan group of lawmakers under oath. There are consequences for lying to Congress under oath. That we have a crash retrieval program, that we are in possession of definitive proof that we are not alone. Bodies and craft. Now, those are some really lofty allegations that the implications are so profound that we owe it to ourselves to continue this push for transparency, support the lawmakers. So what I've been doing, I feature a couple of people that are apparently firsthand witnesses in the program, this film that I've got out right now, and I'm asking them. It's really frustrating when you tell us there's so many things that you can't say on camera, what is it gonna take? And essentially what I'm getting is President Trump can wave the magic wand with an executive order and relieve us of our NDAs and free from violating our national security oaths. And I'll give you the street addresses. So that's where this is heading. And I think that, you know, there's, I've got a, we have a few projects. We, we basically want to hand the administration on a platter, excuse me, the names of these individuals and just say, hey, wave the magic wand. They'll give you the street addresses.
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Clayton Morris
Wow. Well, I think, I think that's what it's going to have to take because you're right, we get, we get all, we get. You know, we get the Grosches up there, we get David Grush, we get these other people who tell us about the crash retrieval. We hear about these recovered biologics or bodies, Luis Elizondo and others testifying before Congress. And then you have these, you Congress sort of butting heads with the Pentagon right now, like, what can we declassify? What can we admit to the American people? And President Trump has said on day one, full transparency. So is it going to, it's going to fully, I guess, come down to him with a pen.
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James Fox
So very interesting. I had a meeting with the new head of Arrow, John Koskowski, and there were certain aspects of the meaning that I was not allowed to talk about publicly because it's kind of an ongoing investigation. But one of the things he said to me, which I thought particularly interesting was, look, he said, I can't, like, cut my own hair or style my own hairdo without the approval of the dod. So my hands are tied in a sense. He's saying, no matter what we uncover, no matter what, like conclusions that we draw based on our investigations for Congress, our hands are tied. If. If DoD doesn't approve it, we can't release that right now. This is interesting because you got David Grush, who testified under oath, right? And he's like, I gave all the details needed to verify these accusations, these allegations to Thomas Manheim, who was the ICIG Intelligence Community Inspector General at the time, or one of them. And it's amazing to me that he says that. And we're. How come the media hasn't tried to follow up with, with. With him, you know, get an interview with Thomas Meinheim? Apparently, he has the street addresses. He has all the details that we need to verify these. And the DoD took the clearances away from Grush because they knew that if Grush could get into a skiff with members of select members of Congress, he would reveal all those details that he can't say publicly. And Congress isn't known for keeping secrets, so it would leak out. So Grush was stripped. And I don't know if he's gotten him back since then, but I know that he was stripped of his clearances.
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Clayton Morris
What do you say to people? Because I always see this in our chat. We're live right now in front of tens of thousands of people, and occasionally I'll see someone in the chat room just say, this is all a psyop. It's all a psyop. When you've been so deeply involved in this for generations of research, what do you say to someone who says, this is all a psyop?
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James Fox
James, I think that's. I completely understand that position, and I've actually explained this to people in the past. One of the reasons why I aligned with David Grush when he was testifying under oath, in fact, I had tears pouring down my face because I had just done a crash retrieval case that I spent 15 years investigating that took place in Virginia, Brazil, in 1996. And after, I think 12 or 13 years, it came to my attention through very compelling eyewitness testimony that the Americans were involved. The Americans flew in. The gentleman called it usaf, United States Air Force, flew in without Brazilian government authorization, landed their plane in this exact area where this stuff was recovered, loaded some stuff up, and flew back to the United States, all secret, below the radar. And I was going, oh, my gosh, the Americans were involved. I can't believe this. So what David Grush has said aligns with my 30 plus years of research in countries all around the world. And so if I didn't have that field research, I might say, okay, I can see. But I'm also meeting with these intel folks that are complaining about excessive secrecy and putting their. Putting themselves in potential harm's way by, you know, trying to get this information. I'll remind your audience, because people go, oh, the government just sort of had epiphany out of nowhere and decided that the general public needs to know more about the UFOs. That's not what happened. There were a couple of government insiders or intel insiders that decided through protest of excessive secrecy, to walk some evidence, found a loophole, walk some evidence. But it was risky out of the Pentagon and onto the front page of the New York Times. And that is why they've not been able to put the genie back in the bottle. And it's made, you know, elected representatives aware of, like, oh, my gosh, maybe there's a lot more to UFOs than. Than swamp gas and misidentified aircraft. And now, you know, in the program, now we've got a. We've got a gentleman who sat in with senators with alleged firsthand witnesses on the program that are actually the metal benders, people that are working on this stuff in labs underground. And yeah, we're living in exciting times, but we, but our representatives need to hear from us. They need to hear from us that we support these efforts.
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Clayton Morris
Well, we're gonna have Congressman Luna back on here. We talked about her being back on to talk specifically about UFOs. So maybe we could get the two of you on. I'd love to have both of you on simultaneously.
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James Fox
Would love that.
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Clayton Morris
Do that.
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James Fox
Would love that. I'm working with firsthand witnesses that want. They want to be able to tell the public. In fact, one of them said to me, I'm doing this for my grandchildren. This is why I'm coming forward. I don't want my grandchildren to grow up. Yeah. Not knowing.
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Clayton Morris
Well, a lot of them. I was just going to say, I didn't mean to cut you off, but a lot of them, you know, on their deathbeds, you know, who served in the military and were a part of these programs, finally admitted they were sworn to secrecy under classified. They. They told their kids when they were dying. So, you know, we need to get past this. I just want to say, James, I love your work. I if one of my favorite movies, one of my favorite documentaries is the Phenomenon. I haven't yet seen the program. I've just been. We've been moving and building a new studio. So that's on my. Sort of. When I'm finally done with all that hard work, I'm gonna sit down and Enjoy myself and watch your newest, newest film. And really excited to see that. So just amazing work. I highly recommend our audience go check out your documentaries. Where's the best place they can find them? Are they on available to buy? Are they. Where do you rent them?
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James Fox
Amazon. You can rent it. You can rent the program on Amazon for a few bucks. You can buy it. You can go to Apple tv and then Moment of Contact and the Phenomenon are available on a few free streaming sites platforms. You can just Google the Phenomenon, Moment of Contact and the program which is just came out a couple months ago and that's on Amazon and it's on Apple tv.
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Clayton Morris
Well, James, James Fox, it's been a thrill having you here. I'd love to do or have you back. We'll do a deep dive interview if you if your schedule allows it in the next couple of weeks. That sounds would love it.
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James Fox
I really appreciate you guys having me on. Thank you very much.
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Clayton Morris
And by the way, I'm going to say this to my wife, James, I want to join you like on a. If you go on a big assignment somewhere where you need somebody to come kind of tag along.
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Natalie Morris
This is not news to Natalie.
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Clayton Morris
Yes, we've been married 15 years. I said if I. Yeah, I will.
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James Fox
Bring you, I will bring you to Brazil.
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Clayton Morris
Yes, I would love to. Yes, yes, I, I'm serious.
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Natalie Morris
I'm Portuguese.
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Clayton Morris
So yes, I speak the language. So I would.
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James Fox
Even better.
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Clayton Morris
Exactly. James, great to see you. Thank you so much for your incredible work. And yeah, we'd love to have you back on here. We'll do a deep dive. We'll get you on with Congressman Luna if our schedules align. Thank you so much.
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James Fox
Anytime. Anytime. And I appreciate very much what you guys do. And thank you for having me on.
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Clayton Morris
Awesome. Thanks, James. Appreciate it.
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Natalie Morris
You know, I'm thinking to myself, okay, that's not a bad way to go. Be turned into stone. But what if they're still alive in there?
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Clayton Morris
That would be turn to limestone. And then someone has to turn you.
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Natalie Morris
Back and you are still alive in there. Right. That's where my mind went.
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Clayton Morris
And then you're stuck there watching and you're just sort of.
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Natalie Morris
And you're just frozen in stone for the rest of all time. This is like this. I. This is the great Greek tragedy, right? All right. Well, that's going to do it for us today. First day again in a new studio. We are in, in transit. That's why it may not be what you're used to, but you get the same players. Don't hate the players.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah. David, Philip, and Grim were able to get everything sort of lined up here as quickly as they could while we're building out the new studio. So this is, like, our temporary dig. So we're gonna dial in some stuff after today's show. So thank you for. Thank you for allowing us to come in your.
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Natalie Morris
We will be back with you tomorrow. Tomorrow's tax day, so try and come in a good mood if you can, but we will see you here tomorrow. Thanks for being here, everybody.