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Clayton Morris
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Natalie Morris
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Colonel Dan Davis
Chicken breakfast?
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Natalie Morris
Come on.
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Colonel Dan Davis
I think you mean chicken dinner, bro.
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Natalie Morris
Nah, brother. Crispy bacon, fluffy eggs, juicy chicken and a buttery biscuit.
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Colonel Dan Davis
That's the perfect breakfast.
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Natalie Morris
All right, let me try it.
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Colonel Dan Davis
Okay.
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Natalie Morris
Yeah, totally. Winner, winner, chicken breakfast. I'm gonna have to keep this right here. Make sure every breakfast is a winner.
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Colonel Dan Davis
With the delicious, delicious new bacon, egg.
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Natalie Morris
And chicken biscuit from am PM AM P. M. Too much good stuff. Welcome everybody to redacted on this Monday. I'm Clayton Morris.
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Clayton Morris
I'm Natalie Morris.
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Natalie Morris
And on this show we cover the stories the mainstream media largely ignores. Right now the mainstream media is telling us that Mexico is descending into a civil war and that, you know, President Trump just a few moments said that he's happy to bomb Mexico if he sees that there are drugs involved in that trade. He also saw what was happening in Mexico City this weekend. He said it's very, very bad news down there. So we're gonna go live to Mexico a little bit later in the show and talk about that.
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Clayton Morris
Plus Epstein files. You probably have whiplash from it. It's a game, you guys. We are not gonna get the Epstein files. We're gonna show you the game that the Trump administration has played. It's a checkmate. If you think that we're getting them, you need to check yourself. And we're gonna show you exactly why we're also gon Venezuela because now the State Department has said we have a new terrorist group, we can go right after them. What? We do what? I mean, that's what we do, right?
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Natalie Morris
Well, we'll probably find out how much we funded them in the past and like Al Qaeda and Hamas and how we've created them. But now we got to go bomb.
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Clayton Morris
Them that's readily available. We know that we're going to bomb ourselves, the group we created to flood our own country. I mean, it's fun. It's a fun game. Also, the Thomas Matthew Crooks cover up. You want to say more about that?
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Natalie Morris
No, no, I was just gonna, you know, go ahead, but. Go ahead, keep going.
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Clayton Morris
What were you gonna do?
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Natalie Morris
I was gonna say, and we're also gonna talk about Thomas Matthew Crook's day because we're learning new information about that. Miranda Devine following up on Tucker's report in his documentary over the weekend. New information about his online footprint and why the hell the FBI is stonewalling, releasing information not only about, like, his autopsy report, but any of his online footprint. And they're sort of scrambling now to play catch up after Tucker's documentary last week. So Miranda Devine's new piece out today, we're going to talk about that and more.
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Clayton Morris
Plus, hey, would you vote for Ted Cruz in a Republican primary? If so, what the heck are you doing here?
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Philip
This is a place Kamala Harris not available. Yeah. What, like, trying to find the, like, least popular person to vote for? Like, hey, listen, about that guy.
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Clayton Morris
That guy, we all hate him collectively. Yeah. I just would like to know, do I have one? Let's, let's please refer me to the chat to have one Ted Cruz fan amongst us because this is not the platform. So I don't know if he would play out better in other circles. But this is an independent show. We lean more, I guess, libertarian and anti interventionist. That's not the guy. That. That's not it. If you're one of his voters, I need to. I need a lobotomy. I need to know why. Why you would ever find any kind of hope in that guy.
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Natalie Morris
Well, we're going to tell you about his strategy coming up here a little bit later because Axios has this new report out saying that that is going to happen. So we're talking about all of as redacted. Starts right now on this Monday. But first, you know the saying, you look good, feel good. The problem is most dress clothes only check one of those boxes. Sure, they look sharp, but they're stiff, they're hot, they're high maintenance, which makes it hard to actually feel comfortable. That's why I'm such a fan of mizzen and mane. Now, let's be honest. A lot of dress clothes are so uncomfortable. And these are, I'm going to tell you right now, the most comfortable pants. In fact, I wore them to a lunch. Lunch meeting, and I also wore them to play golf last week. And the shirts are the most comfortable dress shirts I've ever worn. They're this performance fabric. In fact, they invented it. So it actually feels so comfortable that they've invented this over 10 years ago. Then all these other companies try to mimic what they've come up with. But their pants look refined. They're stretchy, they're lightweight, they're moisture wicking, they're wrinkle resistant, completely machine washable. No ironing, no dry cleaning. Just perfect. You pull them right out of the dryer and they just look like they've been pressed right from the dry cleaner. They look fantastic. Right now, Mizzen and Main is offering our listeners 20% off your first purchase at mizzen and main.com with that promo code redacted. 20, that's Mizzen, which is spelled M I Z Z E N and Main m a I n.com promo code redacted. 20 for 20% off. And if you'd rather shop in person, you can actually find a bunch of Mizzen and Main stores. You can in selected states. So go there and check them out.
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Clayton Morris
All right. We do have one person in our chat that said Ted Cruz is great. I wonder if that's a joke or if you mean it. Please elaborate.
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Natalie Morris
Got to be a joke.
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Clayton Morris
What's great about. I just need to know. I need to understand who's voting for him and Lindsey Graham. I have to understand this. All right, so yes, let's save that conversation to the end of the show. Let's talk about the Epstein files. It's being called a huge win for Thomas Massie and Ro Khanna. President Trump has done a total 180 now and is calling on members of Congress to vote to release the Epstein files. Now, this is the vote that will happened this week on the floor of the House of Representatives. We're going to talk more about that in a second because if you think that you are actually going to see the Epstein files in their entirety in a way that tells us the whole story, not just who Epstein was, who his associates was, who he who abused who, what governments were involved in, our own government complicity, I got a bridge to sell you. You're not gonna see that. But first, in an effort to get these members of Congress to vote on the release of the files, the survivors have release a very powerful public service announcement. And I want to show it to you before we go on. So you remember, there are real people whose lives were ruined by this demon. Watch. I suffered so much pain. So much pain. So much pain.
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Natalie Morris
I suffered so much pain. I was 14 years old.
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Clayton Morris
I was 16 years old.
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Derek Bros
I was 16.
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Natalie Morris
17. 14 years old.
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Clayton Morris
This is me.
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Derek Bros
This was me.
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Clayton Morris
This is me when I met Jeffrey Epstein. This is me when I met Jeffrey Epstein.
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Derek Bros
There are about a thousand of us.
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Colonel Dan Davis
Foreign.
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Clayton Morris
It's Time to bring the secrets out of the shadows. It's time to shine a light into the darkness. Okay, it's worth remembering when they say five administrations, that this cover up began under Bush, under George Bush. Isn't that wild to think about it? Now you'll notice that none of them name names. And there is a reason for that. Listen to Congressman Thomas Massie explain it here.
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Natalie Morris
People say, well, why isn't it easy to come out as a victim? And when I was at this press conference with these women, the depth of the evil I didn't understand until they spoke it, which was as 14 year.
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Colonel Dan Davis
Old girls, they were told by a friend at high school, come over to.
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Natalie Morris
This old guy's house, give him a massage and he can make 200 bucks by the way, he's got a nice swimming pool and all this other stuff.
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Colonel Dan Davis
All you gotta do is give him a massage.
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Natalie Morris
The massage turned into something else completely and they, he had their phone number. And then through the shame of it.
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Colonel Dan Davis
He compelled them to show up at.
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Natalie Morris
His beck and call whenever he wanted. And this is where it gets really evil. The only way they could get out of it, of showing up and, you know, performing sexual favors for Jeffrey Epstein.
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Colonel Dan Davis
Was if they found another girl at.
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Natalie Morris
Their high school who would do it in their place. And so they were, they were coerced into. And one of the witnesses, you know, witnesses, survivors broke down in tears because she admitted, she just said, listen, I was faced with finding a girl for him to take my place or going.
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Colonel Dan Davis
Back there and doing that, and I found another girl.
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Natalie Morris
And so what happens is now, and people are still doing this even after they know these are 15 year old girls who were coerced into it by an adult man, they're saying, oh, you were a sex trafficker, you know, you trafficked these women.
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Clayton Morris
Now this tracks because he goes on to say, the reason they don't actually name the names right now is because these people were powerful and rich and they had the government in their pocket. So even if these people were, went to authorities, well then the authorities would not help them because the authorities were in on it. They knew also they would sue them. They were using lawfare to keep them silent. What tracks about this is the way that it played out was that Palm Beach County's Democratic prosecutor, Barry Krishner, also he only charged Epstein with one count of soliciting prostitution. And he offered Epstein probation. When he was first caught in 2007, 2008, the government actually called these women prostitutes because Epstein forced them into those, those roles and even though they had several of them, he only charged him with one. And again, he didn't call that person a victim. He called that person a prostitute. So after attacking Massey and Marjorie Taylor Green all over the weekend, what has the President done? After resisting this, calling a hoax, saying, we don't need to see this. Well, now the President says, okay, actually, we should vote to release this. He's calling on all Republicans to vote in favor of it. He says, we need to get back on point. I don't care about this. Let's just do it. We have nothing to hide, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, we know that he can change his mind.
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Colonel Dan Davis
Why?
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Clayton Morris
Because now the Justice Department can run an investigation to thwart this public release. You'll see that over the weekend. Attorney General Pam Bondi said, we got it, Mr. President. We're on it. I've asked SDNY attorney Jay Clayton to lead this investigation. Okay, so after telling us we don't need an investigation, I've seen everything. Epstein had no clients. He only was really into young girls for himself. Plus porn on his laptop. That's what she told us when she said she saw everything. Now she's saying, let's investigate. Got it. And I got just the guy. Well, here is the guy that she has asked. Jay Clayton. He's currently a prosecutor for the Southern District of New York. Now, here's what Whitney Webb says about him, and I can prove that this is true because. Hang on, she says that he is one of the most. He has proximity to Epstein's clients because he has worked for Leon Black, who paid Epstein millions and was mentioned many times in the Epstein files, who is presumably, we think, probably a client had some dirty business with. So his proximity to Leon Black is a problem. Also, he's mentioned by Epstein. Jay Clayton is in this email to his executor of estate, Richard Kahn. He's talking about how all of these people have advised him on certain things. Here he says Jay Clayton, who has advised on numerous major deals to lead the sec, who has he advised. Epstein is writing about Jay Clayton. Did he know him? Like, literally? Was there nobody who could run this investigation who had no ties to Epstein? So Pam Bondi has now put in place. What Whitney Webb said is that originally the Trump administration wanted Jay Clayton to run the Justice Department investigation after Epstein was originally prosecuted so that they could have their own person in. They were not able. Now they're able because Pam Bondi is doing it the way Bill Barr was not able to. And now we have a fox in the Hen house. So we have someone who has a conflict of interest is mentioned in Epstein's emails, who is running the investigation. So what does that look like will happen? Well, Congress will vote to release the files, and that will be symbolic. It will just. It will mean nothing because the Justice Department now will launch a new investigation that either delays, varies, or redacts the very documents that would tell us the whole story. And in fact, Massey's bill allows for that. Look at the bill right there. It says that the Attorney General may withhold or redact portions of the records that would jeopardize an active federal investigation or ongoing prosecution, providing that such withholding is narrowly tailored and temporary. So they've checkmated you guys. We can't get through it. If there's a new investigation, there's nothing we can do. It's. You see what's happened here?
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Natalie Morris
Because they can say, and they can say all of this is under an active investigation. And who's to say? I mean, because, yeah, you know, the FBI on a regular basis basically tells us that they. Well, they don't tell us anything. Right. So they can say that all of this is under an active investigation, just like Thomas Matthew Crooks, or just like, you know, just like anything else that's going on. So they can lump it all into. And then most of the stuff will then be redacted. So how much of this are we actually going to get?
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Clayton Morris
Yeah. And so tomorrow, don't let yourself be played by your emotions when you see this vote, because now Republicans have been told that they are allowed by President Trump to vote for this. Democrats will vote for it because their base wants it. So we will get a vote. What it does in the Senate, I don't know yet. I can't predict. They'll vote for it, and then the Justice Department will hold it as they already are doing. Now, all of this is a rigmarole because the Justice Department could just give it right now without a new investigation. There's nobody that they don't have. They're not like, oh, all of a sudden, Lex Wexner exists in this world. Maybe we should look. No, they've already chosen not to talk to him. Epstein's main financier gave him a house. They've chosen not to. They have information. They're choosing not to. So anyway, if you're fooled by this, you see these MAGA influencers, like, yeah, President Trump, he finally gave us what we want. Don't. Don't do it, girl. Do not be bought in by this, because this is what's happening. Does the American public, who wants this, have another move? If so, I don't see it. Let me know what you think.
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Natalie Morris
A lot of people in the chat. What do you guys think in the chat room? A lot of people saying, you know, have Whitney Webb on. Yeah, was messaging with Whitney this morning. She is in bed with a fever right now. So she's going to try to join us on Wednesday. You know, I'd love to have her on Wednesday because then we'll have. This will be post vote, basically, so we'll be able to have a discussion with her on that. So hopefully she can join us there. Yeah, but I, you know, how much of this do you think we're going to see? How much, how much of this you guys have tds?
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Clayton Morris
This has nothing to do with how we feel about Trump. Stop it. This is about what we're actually going to see. We care about these deep state actors being stopped from doing this again.
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Natalie Morris
Cypher says, yeah, this channel is a gatekeeping operation. I always love when people tell us that we're in operation for something. You're controlled opposition, you're a gatekeeper for an op. You're not. What?
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Colonel Dan Davis
What?
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Clayton Morris
For who?
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Natalie Morris
What are you talking about? Gatekeeping for what?
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Philip
Gatekeeping.
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Clayton Morris
I don't know, but make a substantive response to what I just said about how the government has checkmated the Epstein files and then we'll talk about. And then you tell me what I'm purposely leaving out. How about that?
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Natalie Morris
You gotta imagine, right? So Trump's getting slammed online, right? Absolutely destroyed by the right who are saying, no, no, no, Mr. Trump, like you don't go after Massie about all of this. We want to see the Epstein files. So all of these members of Congress who then have to go on the record and actually vote, they're gonna get hammered if they don't. Now he's just given them cover. He's given them political cover that they can all vote for it. Yeah, right. But then when we get the files, they're gonna be redacted.
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Clayton Morris
Right.
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Natalie Morris
So it's a brilliant sort of political move here. Like what's what, you know, who are they hiding? Who are they covering? And then Pam Bondi can step in and, you know, have redactions all over the damn place.
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Clayton Morris
Look, people who have TDS hate Trump because abortion and ICE and all kinds of things that they find they think are gonna threaten them, knock on their door, they don't actually study those things. Right. We are criticizing something that was promised by the administration, but is an extension of again, the Bush administration that started to Epstein, followed up loyally by Obama, followed up loyally by Trump, followed up loyally by the Biden administration. So this has nothing to do with any one administration at all. Philip, what were you going to say?
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Philip
Well, I'm just curious. So, like, I'm looking at like the political football here. And like, so if the Justice Department then decides like they're going to investigate, so they can't, they can't release some of the information because there's active investigations. But if I would assume that they're going to politically just target Democrats, does that mean that any Republicans that are in the redact or in the Epstein. I almost said redactive files in the Epstein files are going to be available or are they going to have to investigate them too, to keep that from coming out?
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Clayton Morris
I mean, you would think, right? It has to be. It's clearly a bipartisan effort to protect powerful people. I do think that it hinges heavily in the Democratic Party that more Democrats were. And Epstein was a Democratic donor. And at the time when he was trafficking girls, Donald Trump was a member of the Democratic Party, too. So these would be people who would be close to him and had been for decades. So, you know, Democrats have more to lose, but we should we lose when we think of it this way, it's not a partisan issue. And again, now we've had, well, let's count them. Two and two Bush. Yeah, two and two. Two Republicans and two Democratic administrations that have protected this demon.
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Natalie Morris
Yeah. All right, let us know your thoughts on this. We got more, a lot more news to talk about today. We got a very busy show on this Monday. We're going to talk about Mexico's civil war. It's a revolution. Or is it or is nothing actually happen happening and peace. People are living their lives peacefully and a lot of people are, yes, are angry about cartel violence. But we're going to sift through the propaganda on that story in a moment. We're also going to talk about Thomas Matthew Crooks and the COVID up there. Why is the FBI hiding information about his online presence? Why did they cremate his body so darn quickly when members of Congress were coming to investigate and wanted to see his body? All of that and more in just a moment. But first, this, my friends, is a stop box. Yes, it is. This is a stop box that I've got my right hand. And if you've got a gun in your house, this could be, this could be the best way to actually protect your firearms and get access to it if you need it. No, none of that, like biometric scanning and all of that stuff. You can just use your fingers. Yes. In an analog way and you can open this device. It even has like little rubber feet on the side of this, on the back of it. So it sits right next to your bed stand and it won't slide if you need to get access to it quickly. So what is a stop box? Well, if you can't stand having like keys and all of those things and you don't want to use the biometric scanning, the stop box is a perfect way for you to, you know, to put your handgun next to your bed and storage that fits, you know, right, right by your side. So you can rely on it if you need it in the quickest way possible and make sure that it's in reach during an emergency. Stopbox USA saw the problem. Designed with all of these, you know, firearms like, oh, you're going to keep them in your closet in some sort of a safe that you've got to go and go through a whole combination process and get access to it. No, no, no, no, no. Or what about the biometrics? What's very often doesn't work. If you've ever tried one of those biometric safes, you're getting errors on a regular basis. Now imagine if like you're nervous or scared in the middle of the night, something happens and you're not calm, cool and collected and you put your finger there nicely so it registers. That's where they notice the problem. You'll never have to choose between security and readiness again. It's an ingenious push button locking system. Gives you fast, reliable access when every second matters without the hassle of keys or the reliance on batteries. It's 100% mechanical, so it works every time, no power needed. With Stopbox USA you can finally have both security and readiness. The Stopbox Pro mechanical keyless system allows for fast, secure access without the risk of fumbling for keys when every second counts. So the holidays just got a little safer and a lot more affordable. For a limited time only our listeners get a crazy deal. Not only you get 10% off your entire order when you use the code redacted10@stopboxusa.com but they're also giving you a buy one, get one free right now for their StopBox Pro. That's 10% off and a free Stopbox Pro when you use the redact, the code redacted 10. That's right. So just go to stopboxusa.com redacted and use that code redacted 10 to get some nice savings there.
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Clayton Morris
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Natalie Morris
Dude, this new bacon, egg and chicken.
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Colonel Dan Davis
Biscuit from AM pm.
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Natalie Morris
Total winner, winner, chicken breakfast.
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Colonel Dan Davis
Chicken breakfast?
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Natalie Morris
Come on.
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Colonel Dan Davis
I think you mean chicken dinner, bro.
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Natalie Morris
Nah, brother. Crispy bacon, fluffy eggs, juicy chicken, and a buttery biscuit.
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Colonel Dan Davis
That's the perfect breakfast.
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Natalie Morris
All right, let me try it. Mmm.
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Colonel Dan Davis
Okay.
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Natalie Morris
Yeah, totally. Winner, winner, chicken breakfast. I'm gonna have to keep this right here. Make sure every breakfast is a winner with the delicious new bacon, egg and chicken biscuit from AM PM ampm. Too much good stuff. All right. Yeah. So the damn dog. So let me just tell you, get quite a windstorm today. And our dog, our little mini pincher, like, he just gets out. He just like, goes around the neighborhood chasing prairie dogs like crazy.
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Clayton Morris
And killing rabbits.
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Natalie Morris
Yeah, killing rabbits. And so he just. He just returned, like we just heard to like, tear into the studios like, hey, guys, I'm back. Like, great.
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Clayton Morris
No, he always does it when, like, he knows when redacted is live because we can't chase him. So he'll come in when we're both tethered to a.
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Derek Bros
This is the.
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Natalie Morris
Oh, that's the Grover bed. Sorry about that. I use my stream deck for that. Philip, can you switch the camera back to that? Sorry.
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Clayton Morris
That's not the dog.
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Natalie Morris
Yeah, there it is. So that's his dog bed. He's not here. He's. He's. He's MIA at the moment, but he's just running around now that and that he's got cleaned up. Okay, more news to get to here. So if you were to listen to voices in alternative media over the weekend, you would have likely heard that Mexico is descending into civil war. This is Mexico City. Oh, my gosh. The government of Claudia Sheinbaum is collapsing. This is the end of Claudia Sheinbaum. This is the end of this corrupt government. There's a revolution happening right now. Massive protests that are tearing the government down. It's a revolution. They're telling us. An uprising. A color revolution. Also, we heard this weekend, but that doesn't seem to be the case at all when you listen to actual journalists like Derrick Brose who live and work in Mexico. Here's Derek covering some of that news this weekend following the protesters and the assassination of Carlos Manzo, who was the mayor of Urapan.
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Derek Bros
Watch Holo a todo soy Derek Bros. Con resistancia concienta. And I'm here in Morelia, Michoacan, Mexico where there is a protest going on right now against violence. Last week there was an assassination of a local mayor in Urapan two hours away.
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Natalie Morris
And of course that was the moment when the mayor of Rapan was assassinated. Independent journalist Derek Brose joins us from Morelia, Mexico to talk about what's really going on there. Derek, great to have you here. I wanted to have you on because you're able to cut through all the bullshit and give us the truth about what's actually happening there. President Trump just about 30 minutes ago was asked about it, said very bad stuff what's happening in Mexico City. He'd be open to bombing Mexico as part of stopping the flow of drugs. So we're hearing color revolution. We're hearing that the government is collapsing. What is actually happening.
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Derek Bros
Yeah, thank you guys for giving me a chance to try to cut through it like you said, Clayton, there's a lot of misinformation going on this weekend and I hate to say it, but if you were to do a search using any mainstream search engine like Google about what happened this weekend, the mainstream is a bit more accurate than a lot of people in the alternative media, particularly those on Twitter who have been claiming civil war, revolution. I've heard everything from this was an uprising against the communist Chinese backed president to it's, it's all fake. And then of course the administration, they have their own theories. But I think the reality is a bit closer to what you said a moment ago that this was a movement that was really largely sparked by that assassination of Carlos Manzo, which happened on the day of the dead, November 1st. And people, especially the younger generation who are growing up with phones in their hands and can see what life is like in other countries, are increasingly sick of the cartel violence which unfortunately the state that I live in, Morelia, in Michoacan, it is one of the some parts of the state or one of the more dangerous areas of the country, western Micho can, which is where Urapan's at. And it's important for people to understand that Carlos Manzo, he ran independently, so he was not a part of the Morena party, which Claudia Sheinbaum's a part of or any of the opposition parties. He was an independent candidate for mayor and he won by a landslide last summer in Urapan. And he was put into office in September. And he was openly saying he was going to do, you know, do something about cartel violence. He was actually riding along with the local police, going on these ride alongs and confronting cartel members. He was also kind of taking some controversial stances, saying that the Mexican people should be allowed to argue themselves and also saying that cartel members, people who are perpetrators of this violence, should be shot and killed. On site, Claudia Sheinbaum was speaking against him and saying this is not the way we want to go. And he repeatedly asked for the federal government to send more troops and more help to Urapan and tour that part of Micho can. And unfortunately, for the most part, his requests were denied. And as that video you showed a moment ago showed on the Day of the dead, November 1, even though he was surrounded by some armed police officers, he was shot and killed. Killed. And that led to massive protests the next day on November 2nd here in Morelia, where people stormed the governor's palace and they did, you know, there was some violence, of course, like typically the majority of the protest was peaceful. There was a few people who broke in and committed violence. And then from that, that led to another call for protest on, on November 15th, which we saw this weekend. So all of that preceded everything that happened this weekend. And I think that's a lot of the context that people are, are missing. And unfortunately, people who are maybe just out for clicks are promoting this as this revolution, this civil war, when, you know, the protest lasts for a couple hours and then life went back to.
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Clayton Morris
Normal in Mexico because they don't really have the power to affect any change. What is President Sheinbaum's position, you know, against the cartel is like get along to go along seems really her policy.
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Natalie Morris
She's.
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Derek Bros
She's continuing the policy of her predecessor, which is Amlo who, who was part of the same party. And he was very popular despite his unpopular stance on the cartels, which was hugs, not guns. That was sort of the motto that he had. And essentially the reason his party has taken that stance in the past years and Sheinbaum is continuing it is because the presidents before them, Vicente Fox and others, they took a more hardline approach, you might say. And it did lead to more violence across Mexico. So there are many people who believe, look, the strategy of taking on the cartels head on is not. It's not going to work. It's just going to lead to more violence. So even as these protests were happening, Claudia Sheinbaum was like, I'm sorry Carlos Monzo was killed, but his approach was wrong. We need to be, you know, we're going to. They say that the way they want to go is we need to invest in the people. We need to make sure people like the youth especially have resources so that they don't get pulled into the cartels. And I can understand that, that mentality that, you know, give more support for the people, many of whom are in poverty. And of course, when poverty happens, poverty can breathe desperation. And that desperation can mean, well, maybe I have a better life in the cartel. Or the cartels use that poverty as a way to recruit young people. Including the reports say that it was a 17 year old meth addict who's the one who actually killed Carlos Monzo and some believe acting on the behalf of the Jalisco New Generation cartel. So that's her approach is like, let's invest in the people. And again, I could understand that. But the criticism is basically that this is just an excuse because there are many people who believe the Morena Party and Claudia Sheinbaum are deeply linked to the cartel and this is just them, you know, protecting their, their partners.
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Natalie Morris
So any truth to the idea that there's a color revolution, some sort of a revolution backed by maybe the United States? Then you have President Trump today coming out and being asked specifically about it, saying how bad things are in Mexico City. He would, he would be happy to bomb Mexico if it involved drugs coming into the United States. He said that. So would the United States be backing any kind of a regime change operation? We've heard those rumors this weekend as well.
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Derek Bros
So at the moment there's no other figure who has kind of stepped up like we see in Venezuela, somebody saying, hey, I'll replace Maduro if you get rid of him. That doesn't exist at the moment. But obviously there are other opposition parties to the Morena Party. But again, some more context people need to understand is that over the last year the Morena Party has obviously they have control of the presidency. They have largely the control of the military, the National Guard. But earlier this summer there was also a big vote which was promoted as to give the people more power. The people are going to have the ability to vote on judges. It was the first time in the country's history that people will be able to elect the judges. And it was largely seen, though, as a ploy by the Morena Party to sort of Say, hey, you have more freedom. But in reality for them to get all of their own people into these judges positions so then they could effectively get control of the courts. That law did pass and many people believe now Morena and their allies are in control of the court. So Claudia Sheinbaum, as far as this color revolution idea, she tried to portray the idea that this alleged Gen Z protest was really being perpetrated by some of her political enemies, namely this, this billionaire Salinas who has TV companies behind him and he's got a lot of wealth behind him. She was saying that it was just him tied to international right wing figures that are trying to take her down. So there's that sort of theory coming from the government and another theory that I think we should keep an eye on is this idea that what we're witnessing in many parts of the world, not just Mexico, but Nepal, more recently Indonesia, the Philippines, that there are these Gen Z protests that are popping up, which again, I think people are legitimately upset about different things in their home countries. But one of the things you start to see is this, this Jolly Roger or it's called the One Piece flag. It's the skull and crossbones with the little straw hat. And not to get too deep in the weeds, but it comes from an anime comic. And people say that it's a symbol of the people standing up against tyranny. But it also is making some people sort of say, why is this symbol potentially organically, potentially not organically popping up in countries all around the world at protest all around the world. And there definitely was a big presence of that flag in Mexico. There was a giant flag that some of the protesters had rolled out. And in my own travels and interviews I've done here in Morelia, talking to the younger generation, I see some of them wearing that flag on pins or on their backpacks and things like that. It could be a case that this, this symbol is just because of the Internet. It's traveling quickly and widely and people are truly seeing it in other protests and saying, hey, let's adopt that symbol. But because of the color revolutions we've seen in the past where different colored flags, the Orange revolution, the Pink revolution seem to pop up and we later learn, okay, there was somebody who was trained by the CIA or trained by Ned or usaid, it is causing some people to wonder like, is that happening in other countries in the world and is it now starting to make its way to Mexico? But for me personally, I don't think we have solid evidence of that. And Again, when I talk to the Mexicans on the ground here, because I've been here five years, I'm not born and raised in Mexico, but my family is from here a few generations back. The young generation is just sick of it. They don't want to grow up and accept the idea that the cartel violence and this connection between the cartels and government is the norm. And then just one other thing that I think we'd be remiss, not to mention, is the fact that we know without a doubt, there's numerous books on this and some great reporting you can find from COVID Action magazine showing that, for example, the Jalisco New Generation Cartel, some of their ex members have said that they were trained by US Special Forces, that they were trained by former Marines. And so there's this whole other aspect, especially with what Trump is saying now, of whether or not these cartels did receive funding and still do receive funding from US interests, and if some of the violence is instigated in order to give the US the reason to say, hey, we need to go in there, invade Mexico, much like what we're seeing in Venezuela.
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Natalie Morris
Yeah, we would never do that. Right, Derek? We would never do that. Whether it's in God knows, Ukraine or Hamas or Al Qaeda or Syria. Yeah, yeah, we don't have any history of doing that, actually working with the guys, giving them, arming them, and then say, hey, how'd you guys get those guns? Let's attack you.
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Clayton Morris
So maybe can you give us a parallel that we might be able to understand what the Jolly Rancher Jolly Rogers symbolizes for people who are sincere about? I mean, it very well could be a deep state plant, but what do people who wear it think that it means? Is it, Is it. Can we, can we make a parallel to, like, the Groiper frog or. Not really.
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Derek Bros
It could be. It could be something like that. I think maybe a more, more apt comparison would be, say, the guy Fox mask during Occupy Wall street and that sort of era, the 2010s, right, where it becomes this symbol that, that, you know, people pick up and wear all around the world. I think that can happen organically, especially again in the age of the Internet, where even in a small town in Mexico, somebody's got their phone, they got TikTok, and they can see what's happening in other countries and they could say, hey, maybe we want to adopt that. Now, I'm not a manga, anime, comic book fan, so I had to do research to learn about One Piece. But some of my friends I know are, well versed in that. And it is basically the story of these pirate kind of rebels who believe in freedom and occasionally, you know, they're rebelling against some authority figures. So it does have that, that little bit of kind of mythology to it and I could see how that could translate especially for the younger generation to some, to a symbol that could become powerful and useful in that way. Like with most things, I doubt most the people who are waving those flags and, and holding them understand that sort of deeper meaning behind it. They might just adopt it because, well, that's what the movement's doing. But yeah, I think it's comparable to things we've seen with the guy Fox mask and some of these other type of symbols. Now we'll have to wait and see in the coming months. If, if it does lead to not only in Mexico but put, but to elsewhere, maybe we will be seen in the coming months this Jolly Roger, this one piece flag sweeping, sweeping countries around the world. If that does happen, I will definitely be very skeptical of where things are headed. But again, I just want to reiterate that these things can both happen. There can be both. An effort for outside forces, whether it's right wing interest tied to the Atlas Network like Claudia Sheinbaum is saying, or the CIA or somebody else with the Jolly Roger flag that could be happening. And at the same time Mexicans on the ground and Philippine people and elsewhere can genuinely be upset about the conditions that are happening because there are rising costs of inflation, especially in Mexico. There's a lot of people who don't feel like there's any hope for their future. I mean that's kind of prominent in Gen Z around the world. So I think that it's a, from my view it is a disservice to the people who are trying to fight for a better life to just say, oh well that's just color revolution. Oh, that's just, you know, fake engineered thing. I'm not going to give it any credit or any value value. And even for myself I would say the same thing about the no Kings protest. I don't agree with everybody who is involved in that or all of their issues by any means. But I think to dismiss movements like that and just say, well it was all funded completely by George Soros and everybody gets a check or something, then that diminishes the people who have legit concerns about where things are headed. Again with the caveat that I don't have to agree with all of their issues, including here in Mexico where some of the protesters are Waving communist flags, which I don't agree with, with but I can also empathize with them and understand like okay, they have concerns whether we agree on the solutions. These are genuine people of all ages who are worried about where their country is headed.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah, I feel the same way about maga. Like look, Donald Trump has basically thrown up down the pipeline, but it meant something to them. They believed that he was a punk disruptor even though he hasn't been. And so you can't, you can't demean someone's intentions to reach for a movement that they think is disruptive, no matter what form that takes.
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Natalie Morris
And you also can't discount what Derek was just saying, which is that a lot of times these infiltrators, these usaid, the CIA, these sort of nerdy wells, these funders, the George Soros funding and so forth, they co opt these movements which in many ways are organic. You know, like these people are fed up with the cartel violence. They don't want their government controlled. And then here comes like these like George Soros co opted with pre printed signs and agitators to kind of just jump inside of it and be a part of it and in some part, in many ways undermine it. Which is what I, you know, which is what I hope is not happening here. Derek.
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Clayton Morris
So sad.
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Natalie Morris
It does. But bottom line Derek, no civil war is happening. As.
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Derek Bros
I posted on my Twitter last night because this month in Mexico is buenfin. It's kind of like the Black Friday. So the malls are filled with people shopping. I was out couch shopping last night. Life is going about normal. Know you can go look at the live feed of the Zocalo. The the center of Mexico where the protests were yesterday was a giant dance with thousands of people. In fact more people at this dance than there were at the actual protest. Life is going about as normal. Yes, there are these problems happening, but to anybody out there that's hearing on their social media feeds that there's a civil war erupting, revolutions happening because of these clips you saw on Saturday, you're being misled. Life is going about as normal. And I don't think the movement to push back against the cartel violence is going away but, but life is generally happening as it does every day, but no civil war.
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Natalie Morris
Thank you for cutting through the BS on this and the propaganda. Derek, always great to see you. Where can people follow your work? You do incredible work.
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Derek Bros
Thank you for that. I appreciate it. Yeah, my main place for all my work is theconsciousresistance.com including that report you showed earlier. If anybody wants to see the full report about what's been happening here in Morelia with the violence and the cartel. And I am going to be doing more reporting on this, including probably making a trip to Mexico City to just see where things are headed. So thank you guys for giving me a chance to share what's going on.
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Natalie Morris
Yeah, great. We'll have you back when you're in Mexico City as well. So thank you.
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Clayton Morris
Also, we're working on a piece together. He's gonna be back in December when Avatar comes out because he has research showing how government agencies are behind Avatar. So before you get excited about that. And that's in your documentary, the Pyramid of Power. Yes, thank you. The Pyramid of Power. So I'm looking forward to that.
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Derek Bros
People can find that@thepyramidofpower.net Absolutely.
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Clayton Morris
Okay, well, we'll see you again soon.
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Natalie Morris
Thanks, Derek. Great to see you.
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Clayton Morris
All right.
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Natalie Morris
Don't ruin that for Miles, because you know, my. Our son, because he's like, dad, we have to go see Avatar the third. You know, the third one, because he wants to see the trailer for the.
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Clayton Morris
Everything for everyone. Have you met me?
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Natalie Morris
I'm like, yeah, we can. You can separate yourselves from this. Anyway, somebody in the chat room saying, also one piece. Yeah, one piece is huge. I mean, it's been around for 30 years. I know some people that are huge. And it's like to start reading a one piece manga, it's like, it's going to take you so many years because it goes back decades. So they're long. Lot of. A lot of history there on that. Okay, go ahead. Sorry.
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Clayton Morris
All right, coming up, we're going to talk about a war with Venezuela because we seem to be hot for that. But before we do, we want to tell you about masa chips, because this is something we very much enjoy in our house because we are a fan of chips. But, you know, chips are often made with seed oils, which have a high glycemic index. But you can find chips that are made with. Sorry, what is it? But not the grassa. It is tallow. Tallow, thank you. That word just did not. Did not want to pop out at me. Beef tallow, which is good for you, which is not an insulin spike. Masa chips are made with beef tallow, like chips used to be, and they are delicious. Also, the way that they fry them makes them a whole lot hardier because of the tallow. So they stand up to whatever dip you'd like to expose them to. Even a Buffalo chicken dip. I know this from firsthand experience. They are delicious. We serve them to teenagers who are very, I would say, picky connoisseurs of snacks. And they do really well. They go through them, and they taste incredible, too. So check out Masa chips for yourself. You can find them at Sprouts grocery stores, or you can order masachips.com redactednews. You can scan that QR code if you'd like. Use the code redactednews and you'll get 25% off your first order. So check them out. I'm excited to tell you about them because chips are my bag.
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Philip
Get it?
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Clayton Morris
They're my bag.
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Natalie Morris
That's pretty good. Stop. I love chips. That's my weakness. I love chips.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah.
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Derek Bros
Dude.
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Natalie Morris
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Colonel Dan Davis
Chicken breakfast?
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Natalie Morris
Come on.
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Colonel Dan Davis
I think you mean chicken dinner, bro.
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Natalie Morris
Nah, brother. Crispy bacon, fluffy eggs, juicy chicken, and a buttery biscuit.
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Colonel Dan Davis
That's the perfect breakfast.
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Natalie Morris
All right, let me try it.
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Colonel Dan Davis
Okay.
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Natalie Morris
Yeah, totally. Winner, winner, chicken breakfast. I'm gonna have to keep this right here. Make sure every breakfast is a winner.
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Colonel Dan Davis
With the delicious new bacon, egg, and.
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Natalie Morris
Chicken biscuit from a.m. p. M. P. M. Too much good stuff. All right.
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Clayton Morris
Well, are we about to go to war with Venezuela? Over the weekend, the US Attacked another Venezuelan fishing boat, and a Department of War secretary, Pete Hexseth bragged about it.
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Natalie Morris
Got him.
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Clayton Morris
Okay. The United States continues to bomb these vessels without any proof. Now, they are able to do that because Secretary of State Mark Marco Rubio says, well, now, these are.
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Derek Bros
You.
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Clayton Morris
Okay, These are. These are terrorists organizations. We have designated them as terrorist organizations so we can casually do what we want, which is the way we roll. That's the way we do it in the Middle East. We have for decades. So now what does that mean? Well, there is a lot of documented evidence that the United States actually worked with with these Venezuelan drug gangs. Since the 90s, we've known that we have been complicit. You can read up on the drug trade. The CIA's fingerprints are in every continent, pretty much Asia, Middle East, South America. So certainly Secretary Rubio knows this. So it's ironic that Washington is labeling terrorism the very trade routes that its own apparatus exploits. But why do we want want a war with Venezuela? Is there any way to put this horse back in the barn? Joining us to discuss is the host of the Deep Dive. Colonel Dan Davis joins us to discuss it. Thank you so much for joining us. What do you think we are playing at war with Venezuela?
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Colonel Dan Davis
It is, it is really hard to follow. I gotta tell you. I had some comments from some folks who have pretty high ties to the department of, well, I guess war now over the weekend, said that they thought that there was a pretty good shot that something would happen. Then, of course, thankfully nothing did. And then toward the end of the weekend, we have President Trump making some really strange statements that, yeah, you know, we'll, we'll consider talking to Maduro. And when asked by one of the reporters, what would you talk about? He goes, I don't know what, what, you tell me. You know, I thought, well, number one, that was really odd.
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Natalie Morris
That.
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Colonel Dan Davis
What do you mean? You tell me. I'm, I'm supposed to be asking you. You're the only one who knows what you would be talking to and about. And especially given that Maduro has already basically begged the Trump administration to take the deal, say, hey, look, man, we'll give you, we'll give you some, some gold, some access to our oil. I mean, just about anything you would want, here it is on a silver platter. But I was also told by a different source just earlier this afternoon that apparently the, what they want to talk about is, hey, how's about you just leave on your own and we don't have to actually go in with military force and then we'll take whatever we want that way. So I can't vouch for the authenticity of this or the accuracy. All I know is that publicly the President isn't saying what he wants to talk to him about, but we didn't have any action there. And I can just tell you militarily, there is no really attainable military objective that has anything to do with American national security or with the drug trade. It's all just a complete fabrication of, just to make people. I, I don't know, I guess happy isn't the right word, but placated perhaps, right? You, you pointed out there that, you know, there's, there's really no path to, to, to interdicting the drug trade right there and then. And by the way, and I've gotten a lot of pushback myself and people saying, oh, well, the Secretary of State designated them as a terrorist organization, so that means you can literally go kill anyone. And I've said, okay, look, just. That guy. Just saying, all right, here I have signed a piece of paper that I have just claimed that their terrorist organization is not a license to go kill people that you don't like. It just doesn't exist, that's what we do. But it's not just, it's not lawful. And I mean, we got to call it what it is. It's summary execution because you don't like the people. And that's where it is.
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Clayton Morris
What it feels like to me is that either we are collectively getting smarter about the government excuses to bomb people and start wars, or their excuse is getting stupider. Which one do you think it is?
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Colonel Dan Davis
No question. The second one, it is not even stupider. They're just putting just a thinner and thinner fig leaf on the top because they don't care. And listen, people are getting away with everything. I mean, one of the things that has me kind of aggravated right now is just this afternoon where the Republicans are openly saying, hey, I want to gerrymander congressional district so that we can have more elections. And the Democrats are doing the same thing and both sides are just putting fig leaves on top of it while they're disenfranchising people in both of the states. And now that apparently other states. Trump was complaining about Indiana today and that he wants. He's threatening people there. So now then you can just put fig leafs on nearly anything. And I think that's extended down to here. We don't know what he's really doing down here in Venezuela. All we know is that there is a lot of firepower down there that can kill a lot of people, but not enough to invade a country. So it's, it's unclear to me what you're actually trying to accomplish.
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Natalie Morris
Yeah, someone in the comment, one of our viewers says does redacted. Like drug cartels. Yeah, that's exactly right.
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Clayton Morris
Like, we're not, like we're, like we're.
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Derek Bros
Let them be.
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Colonel Dan Davis
This is something I've been talking this whole thing about. Venezuela is like number 15 or 20 on the list of places where drugs come in. If you're actually looking for drugs and actually trying to protect our people, you'll do one of two things. You'll go up to the ones that are at the top of the list, not the ones that are somewhere near the bottom of it. And the second thing is, if you're serious about drug enforcement, which I am a big time advocate of getting this under control, is that you'll do something about the demand side. And we're not even attempting to do anything on the demand side about cutting into why people are doing these drugs, why they're buying them, how they're buying them. You start doing something serious on that, and then I'll believe that Maybe you're actually serious about it. Until then, this is just nonsense, right?
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Natalie Morris
That's right. Exactly right. And so then that begs the question why? And we know from Trump's first administration that they were pushing for a regime change operation. We had Jordan Godreau on the show, who is now by the way, gone into hiding. Some would say missing. We happen. I mean, he's basically gone into hiding. He blew the whistle. We did an interview with him and then shortly after our interview with him, he went into hiding. He admitted that the Trump administration specifically had put him and other special forces in charge of a regime change operation inside of Venezuela during his first Trump administration. They were then scuttled and stopped by the CIA and a number of his guys were killed as a result of it by the CIA getting involved in this. So this is not like, like fly by night over the past few weeks. He's been wanting to do this since his first presidency and a lot of people in the comments saying, of course, why it's all about oil, it's all about resources, what else would it be? Would it be about Chinese influence in this sphere of influence? I mean, what else would it be?
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Colonel Dan Davis
You know, I haven't, I will have to go back and look at some of the older year archives and see that interview. But even without that, it was self evident that the administration tried to do this in Trump first term but it was so ham fisted and so, so poorly conducted was an embarrassment, a humiliation basically that we were not able to bring that off and it just showed the limits of our power. Why would we want to try anyway? And look, and you know the whole issue about this, well, we want the oil. If it was just about the oil, we had it because Maduro offered in on a silver platter less than two weeks ago and yet we rejected that out of hand. It sounds to me more like it. It's hard to say that or believe that this may be true.
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Derek Bros
True.
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Colonel Dan Davis
But the evidence is probably supporting this is that no, we didn't succeed in getting the regime change last time and now that I'm not going to settle until I get them regime change this time. So I want everything, I don't just want most of it, I want all of it to include the victory of getting Maduro out there and then we'll go into whatever's next and then we'll exploit the oil. I don't know. That's that part speculation. But when you had Maduro openly and making a statement in English begging Trump to take all of his stuff and just not take him out. And we rejected that. Then that tells me there's more than just oil at stake.
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Natalie Morris
Yeah, I think you're absolutely right about that. And as Colonel MacGregor, I think, said on our show a couple of weeks ago, strategically, militarily, first of all, are you going to want to administer Venezuela? Like, you're going to take over this country? And now we're gonna. We're gonna run this country essentially. Like we need that. Like we need a hole in the head right now. No, look, look, this.
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Colonel Dan Davis
There's a disturbing analogy to Afghanistan in. In 2001, when we first went in there following 9, 11, et cetera, and we went in with a light footprint. We used the. The local forces here, the Northern alliance, and then we kind of, like, said, okay, well, you know what? Let's just help them out a little bit longer, do some. Some government building operations, little bit here. And then all of a sudden, now, then we start getting attacks, and the other side starts having military operations, and then it just expands off, and then, well, we've sunk so many costs, and we can't let them knock us out. So we have to put a little bit. You see, where this went before and every opportunity where we could make the same mistake again or have to leave in embarrassment, and you start. You open up this can of worms, man. It could go sideways. Any number of different possibilities, and very few, very few that it could go good. Usually these things have a life of their own, and it goes beyond what you could want, and nothing good comes either in the target country or for us. And I just don't understand why we can't learn that lesson.
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Natalie Morris
Philip on our team has a question. Go ahead, Philip.
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Philip
Yeah. Yeah. So I'm just. I'm just kind of sitting here wondering, like, so this isn't. This isn't like, a theater of war. We're not at war with Venezuela. So you have. You have basically the US Navy out there blowing up these ships, like, extrajudicial executions. Where is, like, the military leadership? And maybe this is my naivety, but where is the military leadership that should be ignoring illegal orders, not just flat out refusing to do this? Well, how is it, like, I could see one, but we're up to, like, what, 20 of these boats?
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Natalie Morris
They've hit over 20 of them.
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Colonel Dan Davis
Yeah, I think that is it. I'm right with you on that. I mean, we have evidence that one, I guess the Southern Command commander resigned earlier, after one year, and the implication are that he didn't like these orders, but there's also evidence that maybe he just wasn't doing it aggressively enough and is actually fired and was allowed to resign. I don't know. But he hasn't said anything. But that is one thing I have am asking the same questions. We are trained from the from infancy, basically from, you know, second lieutenant for officers and at the beginning that we cannot, cannot obey unlawful orders. We actually have training frequently throughout my career and I'm sure it's still the case to where we have the ethics of war and the laws of land warfare are taught and we have an obligation not to obey illegal orders. And there's even a plan of how you do that. You have to say, I want to be clarified. Are you ordering me to do X, Y and Z? And by as far as I understand that is against the laws of war. Is that, you know, asking those kind of leading questions to get them to say out loud and then maybe change it, et cetera, et cetera. But ultimately, if you execute a legal order, you are guilty no matter who gave you the order to do it. If you carry it out, it's just as though you came up with it. And it bothers me and it troubles me a lot that no one has resigned over this. And it's self evident that this is outside of any kind of legal framework. And the fact that we keep going down this path and no one resigns is alarming.
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Natalie Morris
Well, yeah, of course, if they say they're not going to do it, Hegseth is going to fire them all. He'll probably, probably do a joint press conference and say these people were disloyal to the United States or something. I mean, I don't know. It's really terrifying.
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Clayton Morris
But it's not unusual to get. He's right. It's not unusual to get resignations over things like this that bother the human conscience. Makes me wonder if they're human.
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Colonel Dan Davis
We're supposed to be, you know, we at least went out. I resigned. I'm not resigned. I retired in 2015. And at least up until that point we considered it a badge of honor that we were different, different than other militaries of history, etc. That we are ethical, we are moral, and we will not obey illegal and unethical orders. But yet here this is. And no one has taken any action on that. And one has to ask the hard question, are we any different than some of these other regimes that have used military to do unethical things? It's an open question.
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Natalie Morris
Colonel Dan Davis, host of the Deep Dive with Daniel Davis, great to have you on the show as always. Always. I guess we'll sort of sit back and wait. What is Trump going to do today on Venezuela? Always goes. Great to have you, Colonel. Thank you so much.
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Philip
Thank you very much.
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Colonel Dan Davis
See you next time.
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Natalie Morris
My pleasure.
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Clayton Morris
All right. Coming up, we're going to talk about the Thomas Matthew Crooks cover up the alleged assassin against President Trump. Also President, not President Ted Cruz wanting to run for president. Will we ever have to say that?
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Natalie Morris
Oh, my God.
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Clayton Morris
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Natalie Morris
All right, help me out here. You can take some chats here. I'm just trying to get something done. Can you.
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Clayton Morris
Oh, yes, super chats. Let's see. I, I am on the hunt for who votes for Ted Cruz and Lindsey Graham. Also, Eric Adams taking his trip to Israel this week. He told Israel that I was a mayor for New York City and for Israel. That's weird, right? Do the people of New York vote for their politicians to represent Israel? So I'm just looking through here to see who, like, who likes Ted Cruz, who would put that guy into office? How does he continue to be elected when he has outright said, my number one job is to advocate for Israel as an elected representative of Texas? Where do those overlap?
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Chat Participant
So I, I think those people are in for a rude awakening the next election, to be honest.
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Clayton Morris
You think that, but I think that your enthusiasm might be based on the discourse, and then we might be disappointed. I don't know. I just feel like the discourse is not reliable.
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Chat Participant
Yeah, I don't know, because it's. The discourse is getting exponentially bigger. Like, it just keeps expanding and expanding. I see, like, people that were hardcore Trump supporters at the beginning, voted for him three times, and now they're like, we're done. I mean, I'm seeing it, Like, I, I think it's. I think it's going to be worse than they think.
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Natalie Morris
Think.
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Clayton Morris
Yeah, I, I just, I, I can't, you know, read the temperature of online discourse and, and really make much of it anymore, especially knowing how manipulated it is. Like, I don't follow Eric Adams. Why do I have to see him touching the wall in Israel? Right. And so I can't trust what is organic anymore just because I've seen it in my feed.
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Natalie Morris
Yeah.
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Clayton Morris
So That, I mean, because somebody elects Ted Cruz and Lindsey Graham. So I just don't know what, what data points to use any longer right now. So anyhow.
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Natalie Morris
Well, it's hard to compete with these senators that have so much money it's almost impossible to unseat a sitting U.S. senator. It's very, it's, it almost never happens because the amount, the amount of money that pours in there, they just can't stop it. It's a machine. So. All right, let's talk about this new revelations about Trump. Trump's would be assassin Thomas Matthew Crooks, which we'll get into a minute. But first, something very strange is going on with the official FBI story around Trump's assassination attempt. And they're going, and they're, they're ongoing stonewalling of releasing this information. So we have some new information today that I, I want to go over. So let's look at this. Crooks autopsy was allegedly performed on July 14. We know that because the medical examiners report that shows us the date right there, July 14, right there on your screen. Now of course, as you see here, the official autopsy wasn't signed though until August 5th. So that discrepancy has stood out to me for a little while. And I'm still stunned as to why exactly that is the case because this date is going to become very important in a moment. They performed the autopsy allegedly, literally the day after the attempted assassination on President Trump. But here's where it goes from suspicious to outright insane. Thomas Crooks body was then of course, you know, allegedly cremated on or around July 23, just 10 days after the shooting. And the FBI then had full custody of the body the entire time. As Tucker Carlson reported in his new documentary that he just dropped late last week, they released it for cremation before the public of course, had any knew about it. And this is the key. Before Congressman Clay Higgins even got a chance to view the body on August 5, when he arrived in Town watch.
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Chat Participant
Congressman Clay Higgins of Louisiana, a former police officer, traveled to Butler to conduct his own investigation into what happened. When he arrived, he discovered a disturbing fact. The FBI released crooks body for cremation.
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Natalie Morris
10 days after, after July 13th. This wasn't known to the public until Higgins arrived in Butler on August 5th.
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Chat Participant
When the coroner told the congressman, quote.
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Natalie Morris
He would never have released Crooks body to the family for cremation or burial without specific permission from the FBI. The timing of Crooks cremation is notable. The day Crooks body was burned was also the day the House Homeland Security and Oversight committees had been begun their investigations into the shooting. The fact the body was cremated made it impossible for investigators outside the FBI.
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Chat Participant
To verify the coroner and autopsy report. You can't do new tox screen because.
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Natalie Morris
The body doesn't exist. So Higgins found out, of course, when he got there in early August that the body was gone. It was burned. And interestingly, on July 19, Josh Hawley, Senator Josh Hawley came to town. So the heat was on at the time. Here was his post on July 20th. Here I am standing about where President Trump was on that day. And you can see the low slung building, et cetera, et cetera. So you can see the timestamp there. He posted these the day after he was there on July 19th. And turns out, according to Senator Josh Hawley, the FBI was pissed. They were not happy that senators were showing up there. The FBI was pissed at Senator Hawley for even being there. Senator Hawley said the FBI wouldn't let him examine the water tower and they asked his team to leave the area. They demanded my team leave. The American people deserve the truth, and we will get it. We need answers, but the FBI didn't want me there. Okay. Did Hawley also ask to see the body of crooks on July 19? That's unclear. And we're trying to get some answers on that. We're trying to get some more answers from Senator Hawley's office on that particular point. Was it only Congressman Higgins that asked on August 5th when he arrived? So did Senator Hawley on the 19th ask to do that? Because at that point, according to the official documents, his body was still there, there. The FBI still had authority over his body and it hadn't yet been cremated. So.
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Philip
Whoa.
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Natalie Morris
Senator Hawley is sniffing around town. We better get this body burned before anyone else comes to town. And then Higgins comes to town and that's already burned, gone. The Chief Medical Examiner, Dr. Goldschmidt, sworn testimony confirms the body was released on July 22. During Goldschmidt's testimony, he said, quote, and you can see here in his opening statement, and he addresses the committee on this, lays out who he is, the chief medical examiner for Allegheny county in Pennsylvania. But towards the bottom of his statement, he says this. Once I received the results of the toxicology testing, which was performed by our laboratory, I completed a written autopsy report which was signed and delivered to Butler County. Our office's involvement in the case concluded on July 22. Second, when Mr. Crook's body was released to a funeral home pursuant to the directives of the Butler county coroner. So he says he signed that document on the 22nd, that his office, when they concluded their autopsy report, said they concluded and had signed it on the 22nd. So was he lying to Congress? Because, as you see, the autopsy date was the 14th. If he concluded it on the 22nd, then why does it say August 5th? Why was it not signed until after his body was cremated? Okay, it's interesting. And the kicker in all of this, though, is you have this delay. Why this weird delay? Why this weird delay? And why the. Why the quick, quick destruction of this body when we still hadn't concluded any kind of investigation? Why the delay? What were they doing in that gap of time? That's what I'd like to know. Why cremate the body before the autopsy was even finalized? Because if August 5th is when you're officially signing that it was completed, then why burn the body on the 23rd? Like, what were you doing in those subsequent two weeks? And why did the FBI wipe the crime scene completely clean the next day? As you know, of course, the FBI photos of the FBI, FBI guys on the rooftop spraying, you know, hose water down to get rid of all of the blood and tissue on the top of the roof. It's very odd. Why would you do that so quickly after the next day? The next day you're cleaning up the crime scene scene, and then when Josh Hawley is sniffing around, you have a problem with him sniffing around. You can't go up on that water tower. You can't examine that. You can't look at that. Get out of here. A sitting U.S. senator. Okay, so the autopsy says Crooks was shot in the mouth and through his head. So there would have been blood on that roof. There would have been tissue samples. Does the FBI have that? Do they have those samples? You know, as Tucker asked in his documentary, when they were doing the autopsy, did they take spinal fluid? Did they take brain tissue samples? Did they take all of those pieces as well, which would be a part of any normal investigation like this, so you could confirm blood samples and DNA. Do they have it? So none of this adds up. Unless, of course, you assume the thing that they wanted most was for no one, including Clay Higgins, to ever see that body. And remember the photos taken of the autopsy? At the autopsy, we still have never been. They've still never been released. We've never seen those either, either. And by the way, we also learned from Dr. Goldschmidt that there were handprints taken of Thomas Crooks. Dr. Goldschmidt says those were taken before he even received the body. And he was confirmed that those had been taken. I guess you would see that there's ink on the hand. But he was told and they were. So we have handprints, so therefore then we have fingerprints as well. But of course we haven't received any of this information. And as Tucker pointed out in his documentary, Kash Patel said, we be looking, looking. We get that info during the trial. They didn't want to run ahead of the trial. But what, what trial, trial are you talking about? Crooks is dead. So who's going to be held? Like when is this trial going to happen by the way? And who's going to be tried? I would really like to know who's going to be tried in all of this. What trial exactly are we talking about? And then Miranda Devine this morning explaining how the FBI and Secret Service butchered this investigation from day one and how they hid information about his online presence. And according to her sources, in a new bombshell today, Crooks had a furry fetish and was into exploring gender identity. Quoting her piece like alleged Charlie Kirk assassin Tyler Robinson, Crooks appeared to have been interested in furries and exploring gender identity. He described himself with the pronouns they, them. On the platform known as DeviantArt which is one of the biggest online hubs for furry art and furry community. Two accounts linked to Crooks primary email were found on DeviantArt under usernames EPIC Microwave and the Epic Microwave. The account suggests he had an obsession with scantily clad cartoon characters sporting muscle bound male bodies and female heads. Okay, so yeah, he was wondering like, is that part of like some sort of a psychological operation or is that, you know, is this really who this kid was? Because at first he, you know, years ago he was saying kill Democrats. Then he completely switched and became like a like kind of a violent leftist. So what is it now? Now he's a furry, like a transgender furry. So Tucker says the FBI does not want the public to see Crooks online footprint. The videos, the comments, the Google Drive folders, the violent material and that their public statements claiming the kid left no evidence of motive are just simply not true. They're total lies. And the FBI knew this. So why were they lying to us? Us? And now you combine that with the physical evidence timeline, autopsy July 14, the body released on July 22, cremated the next day on the 23rd, immediately, crime scene erased, 24 hours after the event, hosed down by the FBI. And the autopsy not even signed until August 5, almost two weeks after the body was burned. Burned. Then a senator shows up demanding answers and the number one piece of evidence is already ash. It's already gone, it's already disappeared. So all that to say, where do things stand now with this? The FBI is still stonewalling. They did come out and try to release some information after Tucker's documentary, but it was more of it was basically admitting that they had been lying to us. So you have to look at some people saying this wasn't his body at all, that this was this guy Yerik, that it was not Matthew Crooks at all. It's totally different body. What body was burned that day? There are some people believe and sources I've spoken to here at Redacted who believe that it wasn't Thomas Matthew Crooks body cremated at all. It was a totally different body.
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Chat Participant
Well, that would track based on how fast they did it. Like if it was his body, right then why would they, they, why would they cremate it so fast? That just shows there's something to hide there. It's not like they were going to do any, you know, like identifiers for specific things but like the body itself, like just show us the body itself so they could verify that it was indeed him.
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Natalie Morris
Or shows the autopsy photos, which you apparently have. I mean you take photos during an autopsy. We also have his handprints, right. So we could verify those as fingerprints. None of it. None of it. And then on top of it, of course, the quick move to blame Iran for these attacks. Very, you know, very quick. And of course he was searching online for Jack Ruby. So how do you want to, how do you want to cover up a patsy story as quickly as you possibly can? Well have this guy get shot and killed immediately. And then you clean up the crime scene, you clean up everything as quickly as you can so that we can't question anything. And it's Iraq, Iran, of course, that story, that's the thing I think with, with now, with social media and with us being so aware of these false flags that we immediately said that that was total bullshit. There's zero evidence that Iran had anything to do with it. Roger Stone, friend of the President, came right out and said that that's a lie. Iran has nothing to do with this. And if you believe that, you're an idiot. But of course they wanted us to believe it because, hey, you know, that helps us get into a regime change war in Iran pretty quickly after that. And if you think, oh, we would never do that, we did a few months later. So, yeah, that Was coming, whether, I guess he was shot or not, and whether this whole story panned out or not. So, you know, I'm just hoping the FBI. This FBI has been incredible. I mean, under cash patel's leadership has been incredibly problematic. And I can only hope that there is some move for transparency on this. We've reached out to senator hawley's office on this. I hope we get a response. And if we do, we will share it with you here on the show. All right, we got more news.
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Chat Participant
It appears Cash patel's girlfriend's gonna get more protection than the president had on that day.
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Natalie Morris
Yeah. So she has now. She now has an FBI swat team protection. We just learned this. Actually, I don't think we just learned this. I think Kyle seraphin, friend of the show Kyle Seraphin, back on October 7th of this year, told us that she was already getting special protection by the FBI almost a month ago. Now the mainstream media is reporting it, and they forget that. They forget that Kyle reported this, like, you know, a month ago. Anyway, that's how it usually works. It's like, oh, the New York times is reporting it. Say, oh, really? Okay, what about all of us, like, alternative media, who were also reporting it a year before you got your hands on it, and then now it's like, oh, the New York times is reporting it. Oh, really? Interesting. So, yeah, so his girlfriend will have extra protection now, the. The country music sensation that she is. Mr. Sotol says in a chat, do you know this was all orchestra? Now, I know there's some people who believe that Trump wasn't shot at all, that it was a whole psychological operation to install him in the white House. And, you know, I. I haven't seen any evidence of that. I just. I haven't.
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Chat Participant
Well, and personally, like, you know, people saying the same thing about Charlie Kirk. Like, Hollywood can't even replicate how that looked, right? I mean, like, you just can't replicate how that went down. Like, it just does not work if you think of it logically.
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Natalie Morris
Yeah, no, I, I, I, I don't buy that part of it. I mean, I, I'm. I. Look, I'm open to anything. You guys know that I'm open to anything, right? Heck, I got a sasquatch sign behind me. So I'm. I'm open to anything if you just show me the evidence. You know, like, as Thomas soul likes. Likes to say, just show me the evidence. So where exactly is the evidence? Evidence? I mean, I've seen some weird video angles from behind that doesn't prove anything to me. I had, you know, a bunch of friends and sources who were, who were there that day, and they've never, they've never claimed that this didn't like, didn't happen in the way that we think it did actually happen. So. But again, I'm open to it for sure. Hey, we're gonna talk about Ted Cruz in a second. New information on Teddy Cruz we're going to talk about out in a second. But anyways, let me guys know in the chat room what you guys think. Yeah, Earhart. Jack Cook says you will soon, Clayton. All right, great. Seriously, please show me the evidence that that was all staged, that he wasn't actually shot. I'm totally open to it. Please, please share that with me. Please, please do. But first, the Fed just dropped interest rates again, further devaluing the US dollar. And boy, a lot of people getting excited for those refinances. I just talked with our banker friend says, yep, a lot of people are lining up to do refinances right now. They want to take advantage of that equity in their homes. If you're feeling overwhelmed with like your old bills that you have sitting around and you're, you know, thinking about the holidays coming up, there's no better time than now to get your finances in order. And it's hard to think about the holidays when everything's really expensive. As your credit cards are already pushed to the max, rates dropping, now is the time to pay off that debt. Debt and American Financing is helping homeowners access the equity in their home for instant savings. They're saving people just like you an average of 800 bucks a month. And many are seeing rates in the low fives. That's a game changer compared to those sky high credit cards. And if you start today, you may be able to delay up to two mortgage payments, giving you extra breathing room for the holidays. It costs absolutely nothing just to get on the phone with them, call them, talk to them and just go through all the numbers and they'll let you know, you know about their salary based mortgage consultants and they can walk you through that whole process. American Financing, call them 866-890-8434 today again, that's 866-890- 8434. Or just go to the website americanfinancing.netacted their NMLS number is 182334. You can check that at nmlsconsumeraccess.org and those APR rates that are in the fives right now, they start at 6.196% for well qualified borrowers. So call them today. 1-881-866 Excuse me. 890-8434 let's see. No scar. Oh, here we go. Paul says there's no scar or missing piece of the earth. No scars. No scars.
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Chat Participant
Have you inspected it and have you gotten up close to inspect Trump's ear?
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Natalie Morris
Like you realize thing I haven't gone out like Mr. Trump, I just want to look at your ear. Next time I talk to him though, I will. I'm going to be like, I'm just going to be like looking around the side of his head, you know, like.
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Philip
Just leaning, leaning close, like you're going to whisper something and then just think.
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Chat Participant
Of all the things that would have, that would have to be in place. Like a man died that day.
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Derek Bros
Right.
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Chat Participant
And that, that person. Like, I don't like, think of the marksman. That would be like, okay, when I turn my head, I'm going to look at the map and I'm going to turn my head a specific direction and I want to just nick my ear.
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Natalie Morris
Okay.
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Chat Participant
Don't hit me in the brain. Nick my ear. Okay, got it. Mr. President.
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Philip
Come on.
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Natalie Morris
Yeah, I, I don't know. Yeah. And exactly. And by the way, Natalie had to grow, jump out here real quick to go pick up our daughter. But she said, you know, if Trump was shot, wanted that shot, then they shot a man in the audience to make it look real. That's, that's dark. But it is true, like, right? I mean with, there's plenty of collateral damage in politics. My God. I mean, just look at, look at all the operations our CIA has run over the years.
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Chat Participant
But yeah, I personally, I don't believe it. I don't believe the official story, but I don't believe it was a, you know, not it, that it didn't happen. Like, I think it happened, but I don't think it happened the way they told us it happened.
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Natalie Morris
Mike said what happened. That scarless image that you see was a mirror from the other side. They like did a mirror image of his ear. I don't know. You're dumb. He didn't say he was shot, that he wasn't. I don't know if maybe I'm missing your comment here in the chat room. Not really sure. Was it really the nick of an ear? Someone saying that was not the Corey Compertore was not killed. It was a dummy in the audience. They shot a dummy dummy. Okay.
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Chat Participant
They just put a dummy right in the middle of all those people that's like the same. I heard this whole story about how the Charlie Kirk sachination was a hologram, and I was like, people don't understand the technology that goes into a hologram. That. That would be impossible in that environment. Like, you have to have a very controlled environment for a hologram to look real. Like, I was just like, oh, man, come on.
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Natalie Morris
No, it's. It's. Yeah, there's no.
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Philip
Well, not. Not to mention, they would have had to have swapped out the real Charlie Kirk for the hologram at some point because he was walking the crowd. There's, like, plenty of footage of him walking the crowd that day. At some point, they'd have to swap out the hologram.
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Natalie Morris
It's a hologram so strong that he was actually shaking hands with people and holding a microphone, by the way, too. Yeah, yeah. Grazed his ear. It was a friction burn. I don't know. Crazy says, don't go up to Trump and smell him. I don't see. So as, you know, like, I've interviewed Trump, I don't know, many, many, many times over the years, and every time I've met him, he's always like, first of all, he's taller than me and I'm 62, so he's, like, pretty imposing, but he. He. He definitely smells good. You know, you can picture, like, you can probably got some good cologne. Like, he definitely. He does. He definitely smells, Smells. Smells like a man, you know, like.
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Chat Participant
It'S not like he's just probably his own. His own clone called trumptastic or something.
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Natalie Morris
I would think. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, let's talk about this. So I couldn't. I couldn't pass this up. Ted Cruz running for president. Yeah. Axios out with a exclusive report today. I mean, who. Well, first of all, who couldn't have seen this coming? He already ran. He already ran for president. He. He ran against President Trump. Ran against, like, everything that President Trump stood for, essentially, by the way. Way. And. And got shellacked as a result. So he is now set to run in 2028, according to Axios. He's been in meetings and, you know, talking with different individuals and apparently. Well, so here's the. I don't know if he's, you know, he's denying it or not, but I'll get to, like, what his platform, like, how he plans to make this move. I don't know if he's reading the room properly or not, but here he was this morning on Fox News sort of addressing this in this new Axios report, and he didn't like shy away from it.
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Derek Bros
Watch, you might be making some news. Axios led its morning newsletter with this headline Scoop, Cruz eyes 2028 run. Senator Cruz, where are you on that.
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Colonel Dan Davis
You know, report? Reporters are going to write headlines that, that get, get clicks and get eyeballs. I got a job, it's representing 31 million Texans and it's fighting every day for 31 million Texans. And I'll tell you right now, the.
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Natalie Morris
Wins we are getting are historic. The one big beautiful bill you were talking about just a minute ago, I.
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Colonel Dan Davis
Was blessed to write major portions of that bill.
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Natalie Morris
So it's just reporters, by the way. Some, it's not just a reporter. Like I believe it was Mike Allen. I'm just going to confirm that from the Morning Note. But plugged in, people know that he's been meeting with people and like that word, word like that kind of travels quickly. Just like we heard that Marjorie Taylor Greene might be considering something similar. She's been meeting with different individuals about a potential run. So this stuff doesn't happen in a vacuum. Like absolutely. This message would get out and people would be fully aware that, that Ted is like floating the idea. But here's the key.
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Chat Participant
Do you, do you actually think he thinks he can win? Like, do you, do you think he actually is that deluded?
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Natalie Morris
Oh yeah, because here's the thing with these people. They're, they've got, they're surrounded by sycophants, right? They're surrounded by people who elevate them and tell them that their, their crap don't stink all the time. They have no one to sort of gut check them. You think about the last time he ran against Trump, he got shellacked. So now he, so now he would base. If J.D. vance runs, he's gonna run against J.D. vance. So you see the stage that's been set here and now, I don't know if you noticed over the weekend you had this report about Barry Weiss and Ben Shapiro and all of these, you know, Israeli first Zionists who were basically meeting with J.D. vance, telling him to disavow Tucker Carlson or he's going to not be able to run in 2028. So all of these stories are sort of lining up. It's like blackmail or what's the word? I'm trying to say strong arm tactics. So you have like the Ben Shapiro's of the world, Barry Weiss, you have all of these pro Israel Zionists who are getting together, together telling JD Vance this weekend, you better disavow Tucker Carlson because he's America first and we need you to be Israel first. Basically, you need to distance yourself from him or we're not going to back you is basically the message like, we're not going to back you if you stand by Tucker. Well, I got news for you. Like, Tucker and J.D. vance are good friends.
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Clayton Morris
So.
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Natalie Morris
And Tucker went like, went out of his way to really push for JD to be the Vice President. I really supported him as like, he, he believes he's one of the few, like, genuine US Senators. So they're friends. The, the idea that like, JD Vance is just going to abandon that, I don't know. We'll see what happens, right? I guess we'll see when push comes to shove, what actually happens. Happens. But. So you had that meeting with Barry Weiss and Ben Shapiro and they're like, trying to strong arm JD Vance this weekend. And then at the same time you get this Axios report that Ted Cruz is going to run for president. And the way in which he's going to do it, this is hilarious to me, is that he is going to basically run using his platform against Tucker Carlson, that he is going to use all of the times he attacks Tucker Carlson as, as, as his appeal like, that people will be attracted to Ted Cruz according to this Axios piece and other reporting that he plans to like, say, hey, you know, I've really been going toe to toe with Tucker Carlson. So you see how I am against Tucker. Like, that's why you should back me. At the same time, J.D. vance is like, getting a dressing down by Ben Shapiro types according to really.
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Chat Participant
They really do not understand effect. Because, like, look at, like every time they're saying, like, Candace Owens is the number one podcast in the world. And they've been at her, like, at her throat for, for weeks, just every post by some of these people. Same with Tucker. And their numbers continue to grow. So he's. They're going to get the opposite effect that they think they're going to get.
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Natalie Morris
Yeah, well, as you. I was going to say something, Philip. Then you go. But he, you know, every time Tucker. Every time Ted Cruz, like, slams, by the way, he, Ted Cruz, I don't think tweets about anything else right now. Now, like, the only thing Ted Cruz tweets about is Tucker, like, these days. So it's all part of his plan. And then every time he tweets about Tucker, he gets a few, like, you know, he gets like the Laura Loomers and he's, he gets Dinesh d' Souza who, like, praise him and all this stuff, but overwhelmingly the ratio is like, shut the fuck. People are, like, so sick of Ted Cruz. Like, you don't know what you're talking about. And so I don't know that he thinks he has as much support as he thinks he does. Go ahead, Philip.
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Philip
I just, I'm just curious if Ted Cruz ever went back and rewatched that interview he did with Tucker Carlson. Because I, I'm pretty sure Tucker, like, sweep swept the floor with him. Like, just made him look like an absolute fool. Like, I would, I would, if I was him, I'd stop bringing that up. I would like to equate me with.
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Natalie Morris
He likes to keep bringing it up. And he, and he, and he specifically. I'm in this, in this article. They are specifically pointing to him, him going toe to toe with Tucker as the reason that he would run for president. So just watch this clip and tell me, who do you think won this? Watch. How many people live in Iran, by the way? I don't know the population at all. No, I don't know the population. You don't know the population of the country you seek to topple? How many people living around 92 million. Okay. Yeah. How could you not know that?
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Colonel Dan Davis
I don't sit around memorizing population tables.
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Chat Participant
Well, it's kind of relevant because you're calling for the overthrow of the government.
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Colonel Dan Davis
Why is it relevant? Whether it's 90 million or 80 million or 100 million, why is it.
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Chat Participant
Because if you don't know anything about the country.
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Colonel Dan Davis
I didn't say I don't know anything about.
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Natalie Morris
Okay.
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Chat Participant
What's the ethnic mix of Iran?
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Colonel Dan Davis
They are Persians and predominantly Shia. Okay.
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Natalie Morris
You don't know anything about Iran.
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Colonel Dan Davis
So. Okay, I am not the Tucker Carlson expert on Iran.
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Natalie Morris
You're a senator who, who's calling.
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Colonel Dan Davis
You're the one who claims anything about the country.
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Natalie Morris
No, you don't know anything about the country.
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Colonel Dan Davis
You're the one who claims they're not trying to murder Donald Trump.
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Natalie Morris
You know, I'm not saying that.
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Colonel Dan Davis
Who can't figure out if it's a good idea to kill General Soleimani.
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Natalie Morris
And you said it was bad they're.
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Chat Participant
Trying to murder Trump.
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Colonel Dan Davis
Yes, I do.
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Natalie Morris
Because you're not calling for military strikes against them in retaliation. And if they really believe that they're.
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Colonel Dan Davis
Carrying out military strikes today. You said Israel was right with our help.
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Natalie Morris
I've said we.
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Colonel Dan Davis
Israel is leading them, but we're supporting them.
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Chat Participant
Well, this, you're breaking news here, because the US Government last night denied the.
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Natalie Morris
National Security Council Council spokesman Alex Pfeiffer.
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Chat Participant
Denied on behalf of Trump that we.
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Natalie Morris
Were acting on Israel's behalf in any offensive capacity. We're not bombing them.
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Colonel Dan Davis
Israel's bombing them.
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Natalie Morris
You just said we were. We are supporting Israel.
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Chat Participant
Senator, if you're saying the United States government is.
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Natalie Morris
We're with Iran right now.
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Colonel Dan Davis
People are listening.
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Philip
Yeah, Ted, sure, sure showed him.
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Natalie Morris
Yeah, yeah, Ted, you, man, you really stuck it to Tucker on that one.
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Chat Participant
He walks out of there, he's like, you know what, man, that was so great. I'm gonna run for president.
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Natalie Morris
Yeah, Yeah, I really feel good about that. You know what? Everyone online, all my Zionist friends, Barry Weiss and Ben Shapiro are telling me, like, yeah, that was really good. You know, you stood up to Tucker Carlson. Like, realize, like, I see people on a regular basis who watch our show. I meet them at the mall. I meet you randomly, wherever, grocery store. And they're like, man, they're coming. They're like, we stand with you. We stand with Tucker. We don't. We can't stand these people. People who are like, you know, want all these foreign wars, who want to support and among young people. Are you kidding me? I don't know where Ted Cruz thinks he's going to get support from. I mean, he'll probably get a lot of money, get a lot of donors, but actual votes. No.
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Chat Participant
Well, and also think like, he. He walks out of there, he's getting praised from those people. But now, look, Mark Levin, Ben Shapiro, they refuse to talk to Tucker now. Like, they won't talk to him because they know he lost that. Like, they know he'll wipe the floor with him because the only argument they ever had have are name calls. Name calling. That's all they have.
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Natalie Morris
Yeah, they won't. They won't debate him. I mean, you know, you. You saw that Mark Levin admitted that Tucker asked him to have a. Have it like a friendly debate, and Mark Levin admits that he. He turned it down. So, you know, again, they won't do it.
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Chat Participant
Yeah, well, and he said he turned it down because he's not gonna. He's not gonna debate a Nazi is what he said. Like, come on, man, I love these.
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Natalie Morris
Pejoratives with no basis in reality whatsoever. Right? Like, I've known Tucker for years. I've never once thought to myself, you know, that guy's kind of a Nazi nothing. The guy has, you know, he doesn't even watch tv.
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Chat Participant
Like, he's like, he's like, he's basically a hippie.
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Natalie Morris
Okay? I love, you know, these pejoratives for people. It's ridiculous. It's, you know, they tried, so they tried. You're an anti Semite. And that has now completely failed. Failed. So now the new pejorative is you're a Nazi, which, I mean, that's failing as well. People are smarter than that. But I mean, there's, there's still some dumb people out there who would probably fall for that. But most, most people don't fall for that.
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Chat Participant
Mark Levin was just saying, I think it was like a year ago he was like. Or no, it was just after the Charlie Kirk assassination. He was saying, you can't call someone a fascist. You can't call him a Nazi because it's going to get somebody killed. Because the left was always calling Charlie a fascination, fascist and a Nazi. He's like, you can't do that because you'll get people killed. And then he turns around, what, three, four months later and he's doing the same thing.
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Natalie Morris
Yeah. How quickly we forget. Right? Let's see some super chats here. Barrel mama says, I don't trust Ted Cruz as far as I can throw him, which is not at all. The Bates Funny Farm. Thank you for your $2. Super chat says, could you have Ryan Dawson on your show, please? Sure. I mean, you know, I'm open to having anybody on the show if it's, if it makes sense for a conversation or if they're breaking some news that we want to cover. I like to have, I like to have journalists on who. Or people who've just advanced a story or broke new information. So, you know, I'm always, I'm always game for that. Like having Derek Derrick Bros on the show today. Like, you know, here he is as a journalist in Mexico saying all people are being lied to about what's actually happening in Mexico. And like, that's why I want to have Derek on our show to kind of set that straight so our audience is informed. But I'm open to, you know, I'm open to having anybody on the show. Let's see, unvaccinated guy says Whitney Winnie the Pooh Patel. Winnie the Pooh Patel got caught with his hand in the honey pot. Once he got two hands in the honey pot, his eyes bugged out like Rodney Dangerfield permanently. And Anna Russell, thank you for your 20 super chat says, you are amazing. Thank you so much on that. And see in the comments here, by the way, did you see, you heard Ted Cruz there, like, sort of perpetuating the lie about. Because he was playing off of this idea that you know that Iran is trying to assassinate President Trump. Right. So playing off of that Thomas Crooks idea that that's why he was somehow working for Iran. Total lie, of course. No, I followed Ryan. I follow Ryan for years. Chicken. My groin says, yeah, Ryan Dawson will open your eyes. I followed his work for many, many years. I know, I know. He was way out in of front front on so many stories years before other people. Laura Li says you can get Bigfoot on your show. I'd love that. I heard he stinks though.
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Chat Participant
Yeah, you smell like urine. Look, I got. I have one right here. I have the.
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Natalie Morris
The doll.
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Philip
Yeah. So not. Not in studio, but he can. He can join via Zoom.
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Chat Participant
And he does stink.
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Natalie Morris
Yeah, we'll. We'll have him in another area. We'll keep him outdoors in his own.
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Colonel Dan Davis
Yeah.
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Natalie Morris
Tanaka Dave says enjoy your day. A chat room clan and blessing. Thanks so much. At this point, it's just a hyperbolic mischaracterization. Dayaka says, which one are you talking about there? Bigfoot runs. Shit. Yeah, he does. And Ryan Dawson is also trying to raise the alarm about. About shore erosion in the Outer Banks. Okay. Joe Hoft needs to be on your show. Joe's been on a couple of times. Joe's great. Had him on to talk January 6th and a bunch of other stuff. Native flows. Oh, dear God. Fox News was dumped two years ago. I got a question for you because I. I really believe, you know, like, cable news is dying, clearly. Right? It's. It's irrelevant by all accounts. Accounts. No young people I know watch any cable news. Like, do you know any young people that are watching msn, cnn or Fox News? Like they're getting a cable subscription or, or YouTube TV and they're watching that. Do you know anyone that does.
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Philip
I've mentioned before my daughter, who's 19, like, that she doesn't. She wouldn't even know where to go to see cnn. Like, like, if I, If I were to say, did you watch CNN last night? She was like, oh, I wear.
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Colonel Dan Davis
How. How do.
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Philip
How does one even watch cnn?
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Natalie Morris
She's like wandering around the kitchen, like, aimlessly, like, you're like, honey, what are you doing? She's like, I was trying to find cnn. Where do I find that? Is that in the refrigerator? Where do I find that CNN you were telling me about?
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Chat Participant
You know, I was looking at the stats and Candace Owens is getting more views than cnn, MSNBC, and one other platform combined. Combined, per episode.
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Natalie Morris
That's crazy.
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Chat Participant
Yeah.
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Natalie Morris
Yeah. That's insane. Well, I mean, yeah, at least fuentes.
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Chat Participant
Like a lot of that generation watching Fuentes, they love him. Yeah, a lot of kids.
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Natalie Morris
Yeah, a lot of young people are watching that. Boomer. Runners High says Boomers still watch cable news. News probably. Yeah. Arcane Electric says, I don't know anyone under 40 that watches cable news. No.
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Chat Participant
Hey, I know Arcane.
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Natalie Morris
Hi, Arcane Trip Crown says, I picked up a CNN in the yard earlier today. My dog left. Small Baller says. Any word from your sponsors? On what? On Fox News? No, no, my sponsors don't like hang out on cable news. I mean, that's actually a good question. I think you might be saying, like, hey, do any of your sponsors still do like cable news sponsorship or, you know, advertisement? I don't know, like we've got four or five during one of our 60 to 70, 80 minute shows every day. Like four or five, five sponsors and we do like 30, 40 seconds. If you're on, like watch Fox and Friends or any of those, you know, FOX News shows, they have a commercial break like every four minutes or five minutes and they have five commercial spots, five for every like four minutes. So you know, in a typical show you're getting what, how many is that? Can anybody do math really quickly on that? Like in a 60 minute show, if you've got. Kind of like six or eight news, six or eight breaks. We used to have a break at about like the seven minute mark when I did Fox and Friends about this.
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Chat Participant
So like 24, 24 to.
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Natalie Morris
Depends on each show is different. Well, that would.
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Philip
So if it's doing it every, if every four minutes you're going to, if every four minutes you're going to a, a commercial, that would be 15 commercial breaks. Breaks per 60 minutes.
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Natalie Morris
I think it's something like that. I'm not gonna lie. Like during Fox and Friends because that, that show in the morning had the most commercial breaks, I think.
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Chat Participant
And what percent.
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Philip
That's not even counting. Well, I was gonna say that's not even counting the guests from Northrop Gummond and Lockheed Martin. And you know, like, there's basically an advertisement for war. So you take that out and there's probably what, two minutes of anything that could actually be nuked.
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Natalie Morris
Yeah, yeah, it's about, I think. So you get about 5 per commercial break, 5 sponsors per commercial break. And then you get. Maybe like, yeah, maybe 8, 10 somewhere commercial breaks per hour in a, in a, in a, you know, in an episode of. On, on, on FOX News News. So we used to joke that like, if I had a guest on. Let's Say I like I would interview Senator, Senator Ted Cruz, which I have many times on the show. Right. So we come back from commercial break, here's the story. Ted Cruz, you know, your senator. Everyone says you're about to run for president, but you know, I'd get like three questions in with him, that's it. And then we'd have to go to commercial break. Like, sorry, Senator, we're out of time. We're up against a hard break here. Senator, we're out of time. Out of time for one what, Another freaking commercial break. Like, my God, you know, it's crazy. It's crazy. So, you know, I just don't understand. To me it's got to be like th, that's a, it's a dying, it's a dying system. It's a dying platform. And I, you know, I don't know how, I don't know how sustainable. And by the way, if you watch any of those shows, if you ever catch any of them, like if you're at the airport or something or whatever, or your grandparents have on Fox News in the house. Because I think the average age now is over 6,70 for people that watch Fox News.
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Chat Participant
Well then what's the age of people who even have cable period? Like I. Do you have cable? Like, I don't have cable. I don't, I do not watch a single T. Like I haven't had cable 10 years.
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Philip
Yeah, I was gonna say it's been, it's been well over a decade since I've had cable. I know that, like the place I lived previously. They, they like said, here's your cable box. And I was like, I don't need it. And they're like, well you, you have it. It comes with your Internet. And I was like, I know, don't. I neither want nor need it. And so they left it there. So it just sat unplugged in next to my TV for like three years. But yeah, I haven't had actual cable television. Like probably 10, 15 years easy.
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Natalie Morris
Yeah, me too. Barrel mama says my mother in law watches Fox and swears by it if she sees that it. If she sees and didn't see it. If she sees it, if she sees it or didn't see it there, then she will argue until she's blue in the face. Like she, she, she get, you know, it's like what people used to say about Rush Limbaugh. They called them ditto heads, right? They didn't actually think for themselves. They just like, ditto, ditto, ditto. Yeah, ditto whatever, whatever. Rush Limbaugh just said ditto, you know.
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Chat Participant
Yeah, you would go to my grandmother's house, and she literally, from the morning she would the time she woke up till the time she went to bed, Fox News was on the tv. So you'd go over to visit and Fox was on in the background the whole entire time?
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Natalie Morris
Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, I I know a lot of I know of a lot of elderly people that have just Fox on. It's like all day in the background, just, just constant, it's just always on. But, you know, they stick to this strict narrative and they they don't deviate from this specific narrative. And that's why you're never going to get the truth, you know, on those, those types of channels. It's just sad.
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Chat Participant
Shout out to Neil Cavuto. He was the only one I could stand to listen, too.
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Natalie Morris
Neil, Neil was a great guy. He was always kind to me. And one of the nicest guys, too. His office, Neil's office was down the hall from mine. And he he was a nice guy, really nice guy. Bill O'Reilly, New I mean, that guy just would walk in like a, you know, he he wouldn't say hi to you, you know, at all. He didn't give it he just, he.
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Chat Participant
Didn'T care about anybody, even if you were another host. Like, he wasn't I can understand him, like, you know, seeing other people as peasants, the workers, but even another host, he would he was no, I mean.
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Natalie Morris
My office was down the hall from Bill O'Reilly's, and he just, he didn't, he didn't care. And, you know, if he ever came on our show to promote, like, one of his stupid new books, you know, Killing Lincoln or Killing Jesus, whatever other book he never wrote and just had a co writer or a ghostwriter write it. Anyway. So he would come on the show and I don't even he didn't even know who, you know, he didn't he didn't care to know who I was. Was like, I'm like, okay, I'm I'm hosting Fox and Friends, which is actually, at the time, was the most watched morning news show on cable. Like, you think you'd and my office is kind of like down the hall from you, like six offices down from you. Like, doesn't matter. Didn't care. And I didn't care. Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever. But there's some great people. There were some great, like Bill Hemmer, super nice to me. Like, he'd be there early in the Mornings because his show came on after hours and so he'd, he was down the hall from me. I'd see him a lot and we would just chit chat about stuff. And so Bill was always super nice.
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Chat Participant
What about Brett Bear?
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Colonel Dan Davis
He.
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Chat Participant
Nice guy.
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Natalie Morris
He seemed like he, you know, I didn't get to see Brett a whole lot because he was in Washington D.C. so because I was in New York City, so I didn't get to see Brett all that often. So. And then.
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Philip
Yeah.
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Natalie Morris
Yeah. And so I'm trying to think who else like other, you know, I have to say, like, I'm not a fan of his politics at all. You know, pro Israel first, pro war, very much a pro war guy. Sean Hannity. But he was always super nice, always super nice to me. And back actually when I was a young producer in Los Angeles and I was at the Democratic National Convention running around he. And was it Combs was. Alan Combs was his like co host at the Times. They used to do Hannity and Combs back in the day and Hannity. I had, it was super early in the morning and I had to get both of those guys together to do a hit. Well, like on tv. I like, hey, hey guys, you know, can I bring you over here and we're going to do this thing. Combs was a huge dick. Like he just was, couldn't, you know, he was, and he was the Democrat of the group. You know, he was the liberal, the tolerant liberal. And Hannity was like, sure, whatever, whatever you need. And I was like a, I was a nobody, you know, and he was just, he went out of his way to like be gracious at like 6:30 in the morning. And so I always remembered that, you know, I think you can tell a lot about people by how they treat like crew, camera guys, things like that. People know. So he, he was, I always remembered him being really gracious. He was always gracious to me and I didn't get to see him.
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Philip
I've ended dates early because the, the kind of like a, like a sort of blind date situation, like. But I've ended dates early because the date was rude to a server.
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Natalie Morris
Can you imagine?
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Philip
I'm like, nope. Like, nope, I have no future. I don't even want to finish this meal with you. So I'm out.
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Natalie Morris
Wow.
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Clayton Morris
Wow.
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Natalie Morris
Yeah. I can't imagine, like, can you imagine being with people who are rude to waiters? Like, I just, oh, those people are the worst. Yeah, they're the worst. Someone in the chat's asking about Greg Gutfeld. I Was always friends with Greg. Greg and I got along really well. I used to do his old show called Red Eye. He would have me on there and we would have a lot of fun and then I, I'd have him on my show on Fox and Friends and we had a lot of fun and so I, I always got along great with Greg. Well, we'd hang out in the green room together and just have coffee and laugh and make jokes. Jokes and stupid stuff. So yeah, I got along great with, with Greg. He was always super easy to hang out with. So anyway, that's enough talking. Old school walking down memory lane here. But all that to say, I just think that, that that platform is completely dying, you know, it's just, it's a, it's a dinosaur now. So all of that audience is over 70 years old and, and they're not going to replace them. Like there's not going to be a whole group of like 20 year olds that's like, you know what, we're all going to start subscribing to cable or whatever or get YouTube television, start watching Fox News. Like it's just not going to happen.
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Chat Participant
No. So, no, their days are definitely numbered.
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Philip
Rob's Classic people having like, people having like cable, cable news watch parties. Like the old land parties of the 90s. Like a bunch of friends get together and hook up their cable box and watch CNN together. Oh my gosh.
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Natalie Morris
Chris Handshake says they just tried to claim that the Iranian embassy tried to kill the Israeli ambassador to Mexico and they tried to bomb the Senate in Mexico one month after nine. Eleven. Yeah. Rob's Classic says, how can we create young men chasing real American morals? Oh boy. You know, I think it has to start at the family level, right? It has to start with the mom and dad teaching young men to be strong and to be hard workers and to get off their ass. Like it starts with me as a father, right? Like, yeah, look to the government to do it. It's got to start with me. Like, I want to make sure that my son who's 15 is not a lazy sack of shit, you know, and, and I want him like if he sees his family up doing chores and working on things to clean the house, like, he better get off his ass. And you just, you, you're a part of a team and you do it. I want you to be the person that holds the door. I want you to be the person that puts in the hard work. Like that's the way it's got to be as men, as young men.
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Chat Participant
Well, I'll tell you, you've raised some good kids. I was over there on Saturday and I was getting a drink of water, I grabbed a glass out of the cupboard and Miles took it. He's like, no, no, no, that one's dirty. Give me that. And he got me a clean glass. Like, just very respective, respectable kids.
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Natalie Morris
So thank you so much. Yeah, yeah. I mean, we struggle, you know, it's like you, you want, you want them to be hard workers, but you also want to be loving, but you don't want them to be like lazy sacks. Because, you know, if, if they're, if you teach them to be lazy, then they're just, they're gonna live with you.
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Chat Participant
In your basement till they're 35.
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Natalie Morris
Yeah, they're gonna be living with me till they're 35. And worse than that, I mean, they're just going to be. They were not going to contribute to society at all. I would say like 90% of success is like showing up, right? Like, and the other 10% is like that extra, that extra 10, that extra oomph that you put into something to make it happen, right? Like, imagine going up to a teacher. I said that to my son, like, I said, because he went up to like some teacher that opened a portal and he couldn't submit his math homework or something like that. And he just said, are you able to open the portal again? Because when the teacher opened it, it was like 9pm and he was already asleep, but he was sick. The day that they were turning in this assignment, he was not well. He actually had like a migraine attack. We had to take him to the hospital actually. So the teacher opened it like at 9 o' clock that night, but he had already gone to bed. So he went to the teacher and asked like, hey, can you open this portal? Are you going to be able to open the portal again? And the teacher just said, no. And I said, son, like, I'm like, your dad never takes no for an answer ever. Like, that's not a word in my vocabulary. Like, I would not have left that room until I figured out a way to make this happen. Like, okay, I understand. You opened the portal at 9pm like, you got to figure, like, come back an hour later. Maybe it was pissy or something, I don't know. But you gotta, you just, you don't take no for an answer. So it's like that little extra 10% of just being persistent and pushing through like that. You gotta, you gotta have that, that. But young men just got to be Strong. I was speaking to a TPA usa, a TPUSA group the other day, a lot of young men and young women. And I asked all the people at this event. I was like. And it's just a. It was a high school event, you know, and it wasn't like a big one with, like, Andrew Cole, that and, you know, Megyn Kelly and all that kind of stuff. It was just like a small, small gathering, small, little chapel chapter. And I just. I said, how many of you women want to eventually marry a weak man? How many of you, like, when the bullets start flying and your kids are in trouble or whatever, how many of you want to marry a weak man? Not one of the girls raised their hand. I said, how many of you, when the bullets start flying and push comes to shove and you need, like, a strong man in your corner, like, how many of you would want to marry a strong man to protect your children, to protect you? They all raised their hand, and I turned to the men, and I'm like, do you see that? Like, you know, it's about. It's about being strong. It's about doing the hard work. It's about putting in the hard work. It's about when no one else will do it. You're the one that does it. Like, I don't want to. You know, we gotta push past raising a generation of. Of lazy sacks of crap. I remember.
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Philip
I remember, like, there's something I can't. I don't remember what it was. It was when I was in college. College. But, like, there. There was something I needed to get taken care of, and time was critical. And I was. I was talking to the person, like, on the line that I called, and they're like, there's just nothing we can do. I was like, look, somebody in that building you're in can fix this, right? I was like. And obviously it's not you. So I want to talk to the person that can. And then she's just like, okay, I think I'll transfer you. And I was like, yeah, see, they were just going to be like, no, there's nothing we can do. And I was like, no, there's nothing you're going to do, but I'm, you know, I'm sticking with it. So just give me the competent person. Where are they at?
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Natalie Morris
See, for me, when we lived in Europe for five years, we were there, you know, while the kids were young to give them that experience. We lived in the country of Portugal for five years. And, you know, it was amazing because it just didn't it was like oil and water for me. You know, it just did not mix in a lot of ways. There was a lot to love about it, but like, not, no, the people there are so beaten down with it. Used to be a socialist government. So when the government tells you to do something, or you go to a bureaucratic government office and you hand them your form and they're like, sorry, no, that's not the form, or this is not the thing, you need to come back on next Tuesday or whatever, whatever. The people just go, okay. And they just walk around it. For me, I had trouble because I couldn't do the language as well as my wife, but I was like, no, no, no, no, you don't understand. Like, I, I, I get what you're telling me, but that's not gonna fly. Like, I've been here an hour and a half now and you're telling me now I need this other form. That's not. No, no, no, that's not. Can I talk to somebody? And they like kind of look up like this guy's like talking back to me. Like, what? Like they're just not used to that at all. Or like they want me to wear a Covid mask and I'm like, I'm not wearing a coat. Sorry, I'm going. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. No, you have to. You have. Then you can't come in here. You can't come in here. You can't come in here. Well, then I'm not going to come in there. Sorry. I'm not going to wear your stupid Covid mask, you know, so just. Yeah, I just, I, I never take no for an answer with that kind of stuff. And I just want my kids to not, not do that as well. So. He's learning, he's learning. But, you know, the thing is, like, you know, young people, they just don't like talking to adults, you know, so, like, you know, it's so funny. Last night my son was driving, he's just learning to drive, and we were driving together. He was driving for 45 minutes and it was some heavy traffic. It was kind of crazy. We actually went to the Broncos game yesterday and so it was like crazy traffic, getting out of there, watching them beat, beat Mahomo. And so we coming out of there, he was driving 45 minutes and we're like, hey, we're all a little hungry, like, let's go grab some food. And he didn't want to like go through a drive thru and he's like, no, can we just go in? I don't want to, like, do the drive. I'm like, son, you just did the hardest thing, which is driving this crazy traffic, leaving a stadium where everyone's like, bumper to bumper, not letting you in, not letting you move in. You know, you're waving, you know, all the. You know, you know the whole thing, right? Cops waving you this way. There's a cone in the way. Like, he did the hard thing, and the easiest thing is to go to a drive through and just talk to a human. He said, can we just go in? I don't want to do. I'm like, he just got so flustered that he was having to take all of our orders, and I purposely kept, like, messing up my order. I'm like, I'll do the bacon egg and I'll do the Baconator. Can I do the Baconator? No, no, I changed my mind. Can tell him I want to change my mind. I was doing it just to. I was doing it just to f.
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Philip
Now, you know, I've seen where, like, this. This generation, like, they'll get up in the face of riot police, and, like, they'll. They'll push back, they'll fight, they'll throw like. Like concrete milkshakes at riot police. But then it like to actually make an appointment on the phone. Phone. They're like, no, that's not. That's. That's too much. And that's not saying anything is bad with this generation. It's just funny. It's just different, you know, because, like, I. I grew up in the 80s and the 90s, you know, like, I'm definitely a Gen Xer. And so it's like, it was just different. Like.
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Natalie Morris
REM Says creativity is better than toughness. I'm. Yeah, I. Well, yeah, for sure. I mean, I don't know about that. That is it, I think, from toughness, like, by being strong, it allows you the facility and the time, the space to be creative.
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Chat Participant
Well, the thing is, you need both. I mean, you have creative people that aren't tough and tough people who aren't creative, and you kind of need those.
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Philip
Yeah. I mean, and they're. They're different tools. It's like being. It's not like you can either be one or the other.
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Chat Participant
Like, Einstein did not look tough, you.
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Natalie Morris
Know, My little one just got away. Eve, this is Eve, baby. Eve, do you have fun at the game yesterday? What are you eating? I smell chips. I smell chips. Get out of here. All right, all right. I guess that means it's time to wrap it up, everyone. That's my nine year old. So, hey, much love to all of you guys. Thank you guys for subscribing to the show, being a part of our community here. We'll be back tomorrow at 4pm Eastern time. Thank you guys so much for being a part of the redacted community. And yeah, we'll see you back here tomorrow. Bye, everyone.