D (2:40)

Right.

C (2:41)

There's a new media piece now that just broke before we went to air. So this morning the Democrats released about three to four emails between Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell and also a USA Today reporter sort of talking about how they may or may not bring Donald Trump into their orbit, whether they should speak about their relationship, about Mar A Lago and that bit. Then a few hours ago, just recently, before we went to air, new emails came out from the New York Times reporter Landon Thomas to Jeffrey Epstein warning him that there was a former New York Police Department detective and journalist John Connolly asking questions about possibly doing a book. Now think about this.

A (3:26)

What the hell?

C (3:27)

So this is Landon Thomas who covered Epstein's first indictment in 2008. Epstein, he, you know, does the time, he gets off all, you know, what happens in 2018. These emails now are, let me look at the date. 2017. So nearly a decade later, the journalist who covered his first indictment is now friends with him and warning him that someone might be writing a book about him. Now these are two publications that I want to give the biggest middle finger to. USA Today and New York Times, both of you can just get effed. That's exactly how I feel.

A (4:08)

Most corrupt media organizations in the world, you thought the BBC was bad. New York Times is worse. USA Today corrupt. You literally have one of your financial reporters warning Epstein that people are sniffing around asking questions. And then you have USA Today reporter specifically also reaching out and trying to collude with him about how they can bring down Donald Trump and warning him.

C (4:33)

About the questions that would be asked in the CNN debate, which would then happen. So now let's add a third media organization that can also get effed. Cnn, how come you're leaking your questions and colluding with USA Today? USA Today, yes. Get effed. New York Times, you get double F'd.

A (4:53)

All right, so we're gonna go to Mel Kay here in just a moment to dive more deeply into the Democratic emails here. What this means also who's missing from this, which is the Clinton's in all of this. She's been covering that part of the story. So we'll get to all of that and sort of the fallout. We'll be watching this in Real time what the White House tries to do to try to stop the release of this.

C (5:14)

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A (6:27)

Well, some bombshell. New revelations in the Epstein saga that will never end because we still never get any documents. House Democrats have just released new Epstein documents, though, that they received as part of a subpoen to Epstein's estate. Democrat Ro Khanna decided to. He was the one the impetus for all of this, decided to subpoena these documents after lawyers for the victim told Lawrence o' Donnell on MSNBC that, hey, maybe you should look at this estate. So no one thought to look at Epstein's estate for these documents up until this point. Okay, what the hell? And if Trump actually released all of these documents like he said he would, we wouldn't have this little sort of trickle of emails here and there. Democrats now say they have another 23,000 documents that they're going to release. This is just a few. They want to give us little teasers because it has Trump's name in them. So what do these emails show us for sure? Well, because there's a lot they don't show us. But what they show us for sure is that author Michael Wolf, USA TODAY reporter, was colluding with pedophile Jeffrey Epstein to try and use Trump's proximity to Epstein to potentially blackmail him. That's what we know for sure from these emails. It's actually pretty disgusting that a so called journalist would be working with Epstein. USA Today, of course, is one of the most corrupt news organizations in the world, in my opinion. Here's the email exchange with journalist Michael Wolff. Here's just one of them. There's an opportunity to come forward this week and talk about Trump in such a way that could garner you great sympathy and help finish him. Are you interested?

C (8:01)

Now notice the date just before the 2016 election, just before we went to voting. Okay.

B (8:07)

Yeah.

A (8:07)

It was also the date of a CNN debate. So here's where it gets more interesting. Here's another email and this one, if you can read here on the screen, says, I hear that CNN is planning to ask Trump tonight about his relationship with you, Jeffrey, either on air or in the scrum afterwards. So first of all, and then he goes on to talk about how you could talk about being on airplane with him and all of that. But just notice for a second how Michael Wolfe is saying that. He's like, already he's talking with cnn, like CNN is telling Michael Wolf at USA Today. Here are the questions we're going to ask Trump tonight at our debate. And by the way, maybe you should take those questions and then go to Jeffrey Epstein, your pal, get some blackmail material. Like what?

C (8:51)

So anyway, well, the third one is important because the White House has responded to just this one. The third one says that victim, blah, blah, blah, it's red at Mar a Lago. And then it refers to Trump asking Epstein to resign. He says he was never a member. Of course, he says he knew about, knew about the girls and he asked Ghislaine to stop. Okay. That is the only one that the White House has responded to. They are alluding to the fact that that is probably Virginia Giuffre. And in her bio, the book that was recently released, she said Trump was a friendly, nice man. So they're saying that they know for sure that, that the victim. We don't know that as far as I know. Now joining us to discuss from the Mel K. Show is the person who has been tracking Epstein in minute detail. The first person I wanted to ask about this is Mel K. From the Mel K. Show. Thank you so much for joining us.

D (9:47)

Hey Mel, thank you for having me. I mean, could this be more frustrating and infuriating? It is so disturbing at this point. What, what a fraud they are pulling on all of us.

A (9:56)

It is because, well, first of all, we were promised transparency. So then we get these trickle of documents now coming from the House Democrats who subpoenaed the estate and they didn't think to do this ahead of time. And we get this little like trickle and now Democrats say there's 23,000 more documents that we got our hands on. We're gonna release those. And some of these names are redacted, but the House Democrats like added those redactions themselves. They're not redacted by law by anybody else but House Democrats. So like House Republicans are saying, why'd you redact these names anyway? Yeah, there's a lot to unpack here. Maybe first, let's talk about the Michael Wolf piece of this. Like that to me stood out. Like that's what we know for sure, that he was like colluding with Epstein.

D (10:37)

Oh yeah, Michael Wolf, as we know, I believe Melania is suing him right now and he countersued. This guy has been putting out this information for years. None of it ever leads back. By the way, these emails are nothing to do with Trump. So I mean, they're them talking about Trump and how he can manipulate Trump. This Wolf has had it in for Trump for decades. And frankly, it's embarrassing. Embarrassing that the Democrats are even putting out emails between Wolf and Epstein as if either of them are credible people when it comes to anything going on. And I think we have to remember that last week nobody mentioned that both Clinton's Bill and Hillary did not show up to be questioned behind closed doors about Epstein. And it wasn't news. The Democrats didn't bring it out. And at this point, what it looks like to me is that they are distracting us with ideas that Trump was involved, which he is not implicated in the Epstein case at all. We've heard this from Costa, we've heard it from Bradley Edwards, who's the lawyer for a lot of the victims. We've heard it from Ghislaine, we've heard it from Giuffre, not just now in her new book, but even before. So the people that really are implicated are the Clintons. And again, it just seems like everything that happens is a cover up to protect the Clintons. And here we are again in the same situation. And don't forget, JPMorgan Chase settled for 365 million with the victims of Jeffrey Epstein. And not just that, they also had 20 years of suspicious activity reports at JPMorgan Chase with Epstein that never went investigated. So it would be easier to follow the money that Actually was transferred all over the world by Epstein over 20 years of suspicious activity reports than anything else. So I don't know why they're not releasing that. That should be public information.

A (12:31)

Now.

C (12:31)

The closest I've been able to connect President Trump to any nefarious doings has been through civil lawsuits that were settled. And what we were able to see was like those pink message notes saying Trump wants another appointment or something to that affair. And we don't know what that meant. We do know that they were friendly. We know they had a friendly. So, you know. Now this email seems to indicate that this is from Jeffrey Epstein saying he asked me to resign from Mar a Lago, but I was never actually a member. Do we know that that's true?

D (13:11)

No, from what I've been told, and I have talked to some of the victims, what I've been told is that him and Ghislaine were members and that they were asked to leave after Trump found out that they were. Basically, what it was explained to me as is that he was stealing employees from Mar A lag. And beyond that, that they had heard rumors about him. And remember, Trump said in an interview once that he likes girls very young. So, I mean, look, we do have to remember that billionaires only know billionaires. I have lived in Palm beach for 30 years, on and off. My parents are here. And I will tell you, it is not uncommon for a party to be attended at somebody's home. And it's all the same people. They only know each other there. It's just a different world. But I do not believe that je. That Donald Trump is implicated in any of this. There are many names out there, though, which are, oddly enough, never mentioned, particularly people from the Virgin Islands like Stacey Plaskett, who was very involved with Jeffrey Epstein, and now she was the lead Democrat somehow on the weaponization committee. Then there's people like Richardson. He passed away. He was all over it. We have Leon Black paid off and settled with the Virgin Islands. The prosecutor in the Virgin Islands, Denise George, to open another case when mysteriously Joe Biden went down to see the governor of the Virgin Islands. Next thing you know, Denise George is fired and the Epstein cases are pushed aside. The real people we should be looking at are the banks, particularly JP Morgan Chase and the relationship there. But we also had Jess Steely, we have Ehud Barack, we have Prince Andrew. And frankly, if nobody's interested in the Clintons, then this is all a joke. He had a giant picture in his house of Bill Clinton in the blue dress that apparently, what's her name, Monica Lewinsky wore. He thought it was a big joke. And frankly, he testified under oath that he created the Clinton Foundation. So there's many, many layers here. And it all seems like another cover up for the Clintons because the real person that really should be questioned in front of everyone is Bill Clinton, and nobody denies it. Doug Band did a whole interview about the relationship. Even Kevin Spacey came out and he said he was trying to tell Bill Clinton to stay away from Jeffrey Epstein and he had gone on the trip to Africa. So again, it seems like they're pointing to Trump. It's like the dirty trick of the Clintons that they pulled with the Russiagate. Distract everyone to look at Donald Trump when the real criminal element here is likely the Clintons.

A (15:52)

One of the other emails that of course, liberal media is going crazy over and saying, this clearly is trouble for Trump, but I don't understand how they're getting making that leap. Here is this email from Jeffrey Epstein to Ghislaine Maxwell specifically, and where Jeffrey says, I want you to realize that the dog that hasn't barked is Trump, the victim. Again, redacted. But only House Democrats redacted that name. I don't know why. Spent hours at my house with him. He's never once been mentioned, police chief, et cetera. I'm 75% there. I don't know what he's saying. We can only infer that. And then Ghislaine responds, I have been thinking about that. So liberal media and liberals on X are going all over it saying, see, Trump is completely dirty. He's been with underage girls and this is like the smoking gun here. But what do you say?

D (16:41)

I say Bradley Edwards, the, the lawyer, but also Palm beach police also said Trump had nothing to do with it and he was the only person that did speak to them. So, I mean, what Jeffrey Epstein is likely saying, from my knowledge of the case, which is pretty deep and goes back to 2008, is he saying Trump hasn't said anything yet as far as he knows in terms of what Trump. Trump knows, whatever the case may be, every single person that actually had a frontline interaction in this case, most particularly Acosta, who was obviously in charge of the case. And don't forget that also Pam Bondi was around at the time, too. But Acosta said under oath just in the last two weeks that he never discussed it with Donald Trump. Donald Trump is not implicated in the case. He never came up in the investigation. So, I mean, who are we going to believe? Democrats that won't even mention that the Clintons didn't show up for their, their interview about Epstein last week. It wasn't on the news. Nobody covered it. That should have been. If you really wanted to get to the bottom of this, you should be disgusted that the Clintons have never ever been questioned by the FBI or anyone else that we know of about the relationship for 25 years with Jeffrey Epstein. Again, everything seems to me to be a cover up. The Clintons, it's unbelievable.

C (18:00)

And I mean I don't want to say that we're offering excuses for Donald Trump, but this is consistent with his Persona on Howard Stern at the Miss USA pageant with Stormy Daniels. No matter whether or not it was consummated, he was a very like flirtatious kind of ick factor. This could very well be something that he was showing up us publicly. It would not be a surprise.

D (18:27)

Right? So no, but this, this elite group of people, I, I, I, I saw Jeffrey Epstein in the 90s and I saw him in the 2000s in L. A. This group of people are living above our country. They, they do not believe that they are like us. They believe that they are above the law. This is a very elite class. It's a small group of people. And Jeffrey Epstein was in the center of that, particularly when it comes to many different things because he wasn't just a human trafficker and a child trafficker. He also, I believe was also a weapons trafficker. You know, last two weeks ago, a whole trove of, of Ehud Barack emails with Jeffrey Epstein came out. I didn't see that on the news either. Like it, it's just they want so badly to implicate Donald Trump in this, yet all the people that are actually implicated there are Wall street bankers like Glenn Dubin and Leon Black. Like why aren't these people of concern? Why aren't people asking Jamie Dimon now that we find out that JP Morgan has other problems because they debanked people that weren't even in business on January six in this new investigation into Arctic Frost. Well, why not sit them down and talk about the 20 years that Jeffrey Epstein was a client with billion dollars of transactions that were marked as suspicious activity. So I mean all of this could be put out there and I don't know why it's not. I don't know why they're holding back anything at this point. And again, I don't think that that's Trump. I really do think that this is a dog and pony show because all you have to do is go grab all the cases, particularly the U.S. virgin island cases are huge. And it's very good idea to look at the transcripts of the cases that are already out there. The Virgin Islands information is public. So to me, this is a show, like I said the other day, I was saying on online, why are they not looking at who got paid off and who got money? A lot of people in the EU and other places during those years from JPMorgan Chase. The easiest way to do it. Numbers don't lie. Math and computer are those. Those are the easiest way rather than speculation. Let's go find out who he was.

A (20:34)

Paying and for what Caitlin Johnstone pointed. We covered yesterday on the show. We had a reporter from Dropsite News on who's been dropping a number of of key stories with publicly available information about Jeffrey Epstein's ties to intelligence. And Caitlin Johnstone this morning posts. Sometimes the media ignoring a major story becomes the story. She says one of the craziest things happening right now is how there's been report after report after report confirming that Jeffrey Epstein was really an Israeli intelligence operative based on publicly available documents. And it has no measurable impact on mainstream media or politics. Totally ignoring this story. And then I don't know why this is getting totally buried. No discussion about this whatsoever. And they just want to focus on, you know, what airplane flights he's had.

C (21:25)

If I may, we need to add that this person, this Israeli spy that was staying with Epstein, it happened after he had already been imprisoned and convicted for child trafficking and the United States was tracking him, as Dropsite News points out, because we know this because Edward Snowden told us so this person was being tracked by the Obama administration, staying with Epstein during the Obama years. So clearly this is. It implicates everybody across Democrats too. So then. So I just wanted to put that timeline context in there. Yeah.

D (22:04)

And I want to say something that came out in a lot of my work is I believe, Jeffrey Epstein. And we got to remember when Hillary Clinton was secretary of state, and I know that they are saying that they're reopening this case, she was doing huge arms deals all around the world, those same countries that she was doing arms deals with when she was Secretary of State, then we're putting money into the Clinton foundation, of which Jeffrey Epstein says that he created with the Clintons. But worse than that, it appears, and you see it over and over, that Jeffrey Epstein had relationships with very close relationships, business and otherwise, with Ehud Barack Khashoggi, the arms dealer from Saudi Arabia, and also Prince Andrew the connection between all of those people is all of those people are involved in arms dealing. Prince Andrew was the main arms guy in the uk, Khashoggi in the Middle east, basically, and Ehud Barak in Israel and then also intelligence in Israel. So Jeffrey Epstein is the link between those four people. So in my mind, not only do I believe Jeffrey Epstein was a human trafficker of children and women, I also believe that he was very involved at the highest level in arms trafficking. And again, I, I am at a point where I believe the intelligence agencies, including the CIA, F M I6 and likely Mossad, that they're all one in the same at this point and that they are really protecting the international banking cartel of which I believe Jeffrey Epstein worked for them. So if you really understand that the level of what he was dealing with and his relationships, you see these, these people that obviously were involved in international arms trafficking and all different kinds of trafficking and pro drugs and everything else you can go to. Also Epstein says that he was involved in the Clinton. He had, they had this island initiative that was basically the trafficking route from South America all the way up to Miami and they got all the islands in there to have the Clintons come in with Crisis International and build out their Internet. Meanwhile, it's, it's a trafficking, biggest trafficking route in our hemisphere. So everything that's going on here is a cover up for what really happened with Epstein. And at the end of the day, the, the Democrats are fools because it's going to come right back on the. Nobody else should be questioned as much as the Clintons. And beyond that, a lot of stuff I believe that we should know about this is on Anthony Weiner's laptop. And I don't know why we have not gotten that because the 33,000 emails from Hillary Clinton that were erased, there's probably like 300,000, but there's a lot of answers there. And it goes all the way to Libya and Syria and, and arms trafficking. And I believe Jeffrey Epstein was in the middle of it all.

C (24:46)

I don't think that you're using past tense for these dirty bankers and this dirty business, but it feels like because it's being protected, it must still be going on.

D (24:55)

Oh yeah, absolutely.

A (24:56)

I mean, I guess I'll get you to comment on this. I mean, it's somewhat relevant, I guess, in that we like, we're asking for the White House to release these documents and potential Israeli, you know, intelligence connections with Jeffrey Epstein. And then President Trump sends a letter to Isaac Herzog, the President of the State of Israel asking for them to pardon Netanyahu, I mean, obviously who's been under investigation, and there's many questions about his corruption. And I personally know people that work for Benjamin Netanyahu have told me how corrupt he is. So it's just an odd timing for the President of the United States to be involving himself with a pardon of Benjamin Netanyahu. What do you make of that?

D (25:38)

Well, when I first saw it, I thought, this is strange because I've been hearing that the relationship between Netanyahu and Trump is totally fractured and no longer, you know, working. But what it appears to me is that he wants to close the chapter for Benjamin Netanyahu and move forward with his plans with the Abraham Accords without him. That is what I, I see of this because of what I know on other levels. But frankly, it's terrible timing for first of all. And second of all, it looks like he's protecting him. But frankly, I think that he's kind of saying the Netanyahu phase of Israel has to be over and, and the cases take away his immunity, let him move on. And, you know, if they want to go after him, fine. But to me, this is more of Donald Trump saying that Netanyahu will not be relevant going forward in what he, he's planning in the Middle east, particularly the Abrahamic Accords and what he's come to with the UAE and Bahrain and some of these other countries that they want to move forward and Netanyahu is in the way. That's, that's how I see this. I know it sounds totally upside down, but what I'm saying is I believe that the Netanyahu phase of running Israel has to come to a close for any kind of forward motion to be effective or happy. And that's why I think he's saying to pardon him so that he can move on and that we can get some new leaders in there that actually work together towards peace and not endless war for profit.

A (27:07)

Interesting. Mel Kay, we knew we made the right choice asking you to come on today. Unbelievable. And I guess we'll continue to watch this trickle of documents that Democrats release here. But I think you're right about this. Like, no mention of the Clintons at all. They're shooting themselves in the foot. Mel, great to see you as always. Thanks so much.

D (27:24)

Thank you, guys. Guys, thank you.

C (27:25)

Bye bye.

A (27:26)

Thanks, Mel. And we also just got some, while we're sitting here, just some new emails are coming in right now, some new breaking news on this that Jeffrey Epstein, according to one of these emails Claims that Hillary Clinton had a sexual relationship with former attorney Vince Foster, who then of course, mysteriously committed suicide a short time later. After that, I mean, again, we're gonna start to see trickle after trickle after trickle of these emails. And why not just. Just release all of them? Democrats still say they have 23,000 of them that they're going to release. Thomas Massie says that he has the votes and the Trump administration is scrambling right now to try to stop the release of this information. Like, what is the Trump administration hiding? Release it.

C (28:06)

All right, so look, it's very possible that these are exculpatory for Donald Trump. It's very possible that they're embarrassing, that they are either implicating of a crime or they are crime adjacent adjacent. Or they're just pervert adjacent. Fine. Right. We're gonna find out anyway because the American public won't let this go. One question would be, why protect him over young girls, over us, over what seems to be a banking cabal that does not have the American people's interests. So he implicates himself more and more by. I mean, what is the statute that you can't be a party to a crime. You can't hide a crime that. You know what I'm saying that anyhow, Aiding and abetting. Aiding and abetting.

D (28:51)

Right.

C (28:51)

So what's happening here? So who's covering for who? And I mean, yes, it would also show us that early in this Trump administration, when the Trump administration said there was nothing there, he trafficked nobody to no bun to anyone, nobody anywhere was. It was just him and his own porn on his laptop. That is clearly not true. Another email that's just, just being released and these are breaking hard and fast. Let me know if it's happening on your X feed too. I can't verify all of them, but they are everywhere. Is Jeffrey Epstein to. Who is this person? Special envoy to Syria Tom. Tom Barack in 2016. Send photos of you and child. Makes you me smile. Clearly, Epstein did not traffic to nobody. So. So that needs to implode. Now that's gone.

A (29:41)

Some other people in the chat room pointing out, yeah, the whole Vince Foster, Hillary Clinton thing is old news. I mean, we knew about this parent relationship for many, many years, but now.

C (29:48)

It'S, you know, why did Epstein know about this?

A (29:50)

Right. This is in an email from Epstein, like saying this specifically. So. And then he was doing the naughties. He was doing the naughties with Vince. Oh, for a long, long time. This is part of the why did Vince Foster suddenly die Story So there's a lot of this, but the fact that it's like in an email from Jeffrey Epstein as part of this, as part of this new tranche of documents being released by Democrats is pretty interesting.

C (30:17)

I mean, I didn't know this, you know, special envoy to Syria send pictures of you and the child. It makes me smile. Where are those pictures, Pam Bondi? Where are they? Justice Department. I would like to know.

A (30:30)

I just, you know, again, again, when I asked Congressman Massie a few weeks ago, did he have the votes before the whole shutdown and before that, Senator, before House Speaker Johnson was trying to shut down, try to prevent them for doing this, he said he has the votes. We got separate confirmation from one of our team members today who said that he has the votes. So even like the Trump administration leaning on Congresswoman Boebert, trying to get her to change her vote on this, like, Trump apparently called her directly, simply begging her to not vote to allow the Epstein files to be released. So this is a uni party, and they're all, again, someone pointed out earlier, I think the Democrats had these emails for eight years. Now they're releasing them. So this is Democrats and Republicans, one big uni party. And they're all covering maybe for these bankers. They're covering from this massive criminal network of individuals because they're all implicated, all of them them are dirty.

C (31:25)

I wish we had a constitutional expert on to tell us, can the president stop it? Is it possible he's gonna try? Is there something the Justice Department, the.

A (31:34)

House has their hands on it, so Trump can't do anything about it. This is what they're so fearful of right now with this discharge position and Thomas Massie. This is why they hate Thomas Massie so much. It's not because he's a libertarian. It's not because he has solar panels on its house. It's because he wants the truth for the American people and they hate it. They absolutely.

B (31:52)

Well, I was going to say, how rich will it be that Massie is the one that ends up draining the swamp and Trump goes down with it.

A (31:58)

Yeah, I mean, I see a lot of people saying, massey for president in 2028. Wouldn't that be amazing?

D (32:02)

All right.

A (32:03)

Hey, we've got more news to get to here. We got a lot more news to get to. We got a lot of guests coming up here. We're going to talk with Elijah Schaefer. Of course, he's being sued right now by Cash patel's girlfriend for $5 million. We tried to have him on the show Yesterday he got held up at the airport. So we're lucky that he's going to be joining us here in a moment.

D (32:18)

Moment.

A (32:19)

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C (34:15)

Yeah, like meat Christmas.

A (34:17)

She said, what's in the box? I'm like, it's our meat order. It's our meat order is here. So we'll be having some sirloins. We'll be having some rib eyes. I'm excited about that. Well, thank you guys so much for dialing us up and being a part of our show here. Just confirming we are good to go. Yep, we're all right. Cash Patel and the FBI have been actively suppressing the release of the Epstein client list. In fact, we just learned that Cash Patel was in a meeting with Lauren Boebert today, according to reports, specifically asking her to change her vote on the Epstein files. Like, why the hell is the head of the FBI meeting with a member of Congress along with President Trump, trying to get them to squash the Epstein files? Why are they hiding this? Why is the most transparent administration in history gaslighting us, telling us that Epstein only trafficked young girls to himself? So stop asking questions. Where are the Epstein documents? Shut up, you anti Semite for asking that question. Naturally, people started looking more closely at Cash Patel and his girlfriend, Alexis Wilkins. She has NOW filed a $5 million frivolous lawsuit against conservative podcasters and reporters for, quote, insinuating that she's a Mossad honeypot. The lawsuit, I've read it was filed by the director of Cash Patel's foundation. In other words, Cash Patel's girlfriend is using Cash Patel's legal network to try and silence people. If I understand how the money trail works here, one of those conservative voices that's been sued is none other than Elijah Schaefer. Watch.

B (35:46)

Over the weekend I received concerning news that I was being sued for $5 million by Kash Patel's girlfriend, Alexis Wilkins. And the reason why might actually shock you. About a couple months ago, I posted this photo on the public social media platform X. I posted it with no caption, no suggestions of any mal, intent or any slander, defamation or criticisms of character. I did so attached.

A (36:15)

So that was just simply a photo. And even in the lawsuit, my favorite part of the lawsuit is where it says, quote, no defamatory words were spoken or. Or written, end quote. Elijah Schaefer joins us now on the show to talk all about this. I'm sure it's been hell for you over the past couple of days. Elijah, welcome to the show.

B (36:35)

Thank you so much for having me, guys. I just want to give a quick shout out, say I'm a big proponent of not consuming any politically charged media as a commentator. So I keep my own opinions. They are authentic. However, I do not believe your show counts as politically charged. It's very neutral, very honest, and you're one of the only shows, if not the only show I regularly watch. So I definitely am very happy to be here to discuss this with you guys.

C (37:03)

Nice of you to say.

A (37:04)

Kind of you to say, I mean, we really try. We have no agenda and likewise, you know, so. And that's what I love about your stance on this. You know, they're trying to silence you for being truthful, for not pulling any punches. And that's what we, that's what we love about you. So when you got this lawsuit in, I guess you got it in the mail. I don't know if you were served. What was, what were your initial sort of reactions, reactive thoughts to it? You think, oh my God, this thing.

C (37:26)

So shocking.

A (37:26)

This thing's going to have a lot of teeth. Did you realize it would be so frivolous and have no teeth at all like it is? Yeah.

B (37:32)

So to clarify, I heard about something stirring up legally against me from Barry Wise's investigative team through CBS Free Press, some members that are associated with her, and through some journalists at Newsweek associated with Josh Hammer. Those names have become all too familiar as bad faith actors, in my opinion, in the journalistic world that are suspiciously operating large companies with massive amounts of influence with very little to show for it.

A (38:02)

Why?

B (38:03)

Well, it looks like maybe there's other reasons as you guys have covered on your show, especially with the sell of Free Press and Very Wise. However, I think one of the journalists at Newsweek made a mistake and in the midst of talking about the previous lawsuits that were more politically charged and based on actual rhetoric from Alexis Wilkins, the FBI director's girlfriend, who I'd like to say we should stop calling her the. The FBI director's girlfriend because he says she's a sensational music star, a sensational country music icon. And so according to him, she's not just a public figure, she's a international icon. And that's obviously makes this entire situation unique, including the fact that, you know, she also has an IMDb, right. Your private citizens don't usually just have, you know, credits on the largest database or entertainers. This is a very public person. Also happens to be the girlfriend of the most powerful law enforcer in the country outside of the judiciary. And so we have reason to be interested in this individual. However, I really wasn't until now. One of the journalists sloppily added a note in one of the investigations that there was an expectation for myself to be receiving some legal inquiries. So I'll just go here. We have not been served. They don't know where I am and they're very mad. I believe that I got a hold of the document before they were able to push their media PR campaign. So I took their plan to sort of slander and surprise me and catch me off guard, and I blew it up to the world. So that's where we're at right now.

C (39:48)

So you haven't even filed in any court of law. Law.

B (39:51)

It's been filed. It was filed in the. In the. In the Palm Beach Circuit Court. And it was, you know, to be a jury trial. The request was actually a jury trial, which is very interesting. Not even just a civil settlement or something that would be, you know, you know, admission of terms or apology. She wants a jury trial, and she wants the evaluation money of my company. She knows I don't have it. It. And so the court says the only way I would be able to pay for this is to give up all of my media assets, including my. My social media assets. So she essentially wants my company shut down over a picture and wants to take control of my assets, and she still can't find me. But we are. We are trying to determine whether or not we're going to just agree to accept the accusation and charges as a plaintiff on her end. But I want to clarify that we got a hold of the documents without their knowledge, and. And they didn't know we had them, which is why she's been silent. Because Streisand effect. I go, you want to do this, we're gonna do it on my terms, not yours. And that's how I run as a journalist. We don't. I don't. I play ball. But you know what I'm saying. If. If you're gonna. If you're. If you're gonna try to be snarky like this. It's not just young women who can be petty. Spending 10 years as a journalist becomes very petty.

C (41:10)

Well, you don't have an obligation to accept a lot to stand there and be found. That's not your. And if her boyfriend's the head of the FBI, you would think that that's not too hard. She shouldn't be using that. But she's obviously using things at her disposal that most American citizens don't have. Now, you say you would like to get discovery on the two of them and figure out how much he was involved in this, how much he knew which. It matters that they are not married, because married couples have spousal privilege. You cannot force them to. To testify against one another, but they're not married, so that matters. You say you also would like to get this dismissed, but you can't do that unless you accept the lawsuit. So there are three different routes here. You can't have all three. You can't have that it dismissed without discovery. You can't the discovery without getting the lawsuit. So you are the one with all the choices. Choices here. And they are on the back foot because this is such a frivolous lawsuit. So what do your attorneys say?

B (42:11)

Yeah, so this is my Roe v. Wade moment. My body, my choice, my lawsuit, my choice. So, yeah, so my. So I have an incredibly talented legal team, one of the most well respected, largely funded legal teams, which I could never afford, that has come alongside me in this due to. To their belief that this is a slap violation. And they read the case, and they have looked at it. And here's the interesting aspects of this that I want the American public to understand. If Cash Patel didn't know about this lawsuit, he should step down as the FBI director because he has a girl that one would assume he's having relations with, considering their sort of way they present themselves in public. They're not married. And. And I'm not sure with Hindu beliefs. I know that she professes to be Christian. Traditionally, in Christianity, you get married. So obviously they're sort of living their own version of reality, and whatever they believe, they want for their lives, untraditional, too, in American culture. And so they have sort of have their own. They're obviously very much in love with each other, and they care about each other. So much so that the FBI director has talked about these comments. So he's referenced these tweets from myself and others, and he said he called them attacks. Right. So while people are questioning him about the Epstein files, you know, you can look. Think of Cash sitting there, and they're like, sir, you know, we. We. We have these files here of children that were taken advantage of and. And violated in the most inhumane ways. He's like, do not redeem Sar. And you're like, okay, Cash. You know, I think his name's Cash. Yeah, it's like, you know, cash App. What's going on here? Why don't we care about this? Like, you're telling me that somebody made a suggestion that my girlfriend was too hot for me. That's what that phrase, honey pot, is, a suggestion. At least most people. It's like, she looks like, you know, she wouldn't go for you. It's supposed to be a compliment, I think. I never said that either, by the way, but I think it's supposed to be a compliment. He goes, let's do what? She lives allegedly in Tennessee. Allegedly. And she files this using his firm, right. In D.C. which is already weird. Now, I looked at her. We've combed through her financials and whatever's publicly available. She's not wealthy, and she's getting like 8,000 streams on, on that I, that I know of on Spotify. She's getting thousands of views on YouTube. And I don't, you know, we're not the biggest show ourselves. And I'm not talking about that. She cannot afford this firm. We looked at their prices. So she's getting money for this. Now, of course, she was married to cash. That wouldn't be an issue. She was using his money. There's joint accounts, joint income, joint filings. But it looks like perhaps she might be taking money from the director of the FBI of her boyfriend, who's not her husband. And because she's using the firm, before we even want to get to accept and have discovery, we're going to be making sure that we are freezing all communication. And we would like to know what this firm's communication has been with Cash, whether or not we need to include him in whatever we're going to do. Have them turn the documents as we start the court case to ensure that this is not a slap violation, that Cash was not aware of this and that. And, and here's the point. If they basically have two options, they're either a going to have to say Cash was a part of this and then he joins the suit. It becomes an anti slap suit. He opens himself up to discovery when we go ahead and request, or he invokes privilege, maybe has the attorney general come in and explain that, you know, he has privilege or immunity. And then to me, that would also admit guild and will still go through with a slap violation. Because why, why do you, what do you need immunity from with this law firm that we, we can't verify whether or not you had foreknowledge of this lawsuit, whether or not we need to include you in any of these discussions. Right. Are you a part of this? We want to know. So that's my point. If he knew about this, he should step down because he set himself up for a trap. Now he has no way at walking out of this. But if he didn't know about this, I don't believe that. And I also want to say they made a huge error here. A huge error. She has been fomenting his girlfriend on X, you know, accusing me of not being a Christian and you know, getting like very petty, weird things that like she's been responding. Now the suggestion for the lawsuit, of course we don't, we don't know the private conversations. We won't know that till discovery. But it looks like this guy Bernal, the board director for Patel, who is runs this law firm that he's the one who publicly suggested the lawsuit. He goes on, someone says, you should sue Elijah for this. And he goes, yeah, maybe. Maybe I will. And he's like, that's a good idea. And then later, a few weeks later, it's filed. But nowhere do we see any sort of complaint about her asking for a retraction. She never says that I said anything false. But you can see this sort of Newsweek quoted me. Paranoid and delusional behavior that makes me question her composure to be a reputable person to file a lawsuit and makes me question Cash if this is who he's dating and putting her on the front because she essentially is accusing me of cheating on her in her dreams. Like, this is what it is. It's what it is. Your wife, you kissed her. Like who?

A (47:39)

And it's like, yeah. I mean. And so some of the. I mean, some of the allegations out there, of course, that others have made and others are being sued as well by her claiming that she's a honeypot, that she's a Mossad honeypot. That's what they've been claiming. But nowhere in the lawsuit do I see those words right. I don't see the word Israel anywhere. I've read the complaints plain. I've searched. I don't see Israel. I don't see honeypot. I don't see any of that. Basically just saying that you are profiting off of churning controversy and outrage, to use their quote, and they're using a fabricated narrative to basically say that she's a honeypot. But nowhere do you say that she's a honeypot. Unless I miss something.

E (48:17)

No.

B (48:17)

So this is why it's not only frivolous, but it makes one question real intent here, Rift tv, my next network. You know, I had many attempts by the FBI through intimidation. This is why it's very serious. You know, I've been stalked by the FBI, heard the FBI use the Patriot act to lift the back end access to my iPhone that I've FOIAed and gotten access to. So they actually, like, took over my phone through a joint domestic terrorism and espionage investigation into my work previously, when I revealed that Ray Epps was The instigator of January 6th, the riot that happened that day. Because if people ever seen that footage of Ray eps and individuals breaking down the barriers, that was me. That was my footage. And I was a journalist for the Blaze at the time. So I cooperated for a moment with the FBI to explain, hey, I actually know who started this. And let's start the investigation here. I'll use my team, we'll go after it. And instead of accepting the footage and launching the investigation, they started investigating me for wiretapping, harassing my family, getting no knock warrants, warrants for acquiring devices, lifting my bank records, all my text messages messages, even getting to my signal account, which, you know is crazy, right into my encrypted messaging account they were able to get into. So they really put a lot of pressure. And I never got charged formally with anything. But it's been four years. And the assistant Attorney General signed off on. The attorney general signed off as well at the time, Merrick Garland. But all over the fact that what I was Republican. So the FBI has had a huge history of meddling with me. You know, my own producer just got his devices back. The FBI raided him, took all of his stuff recently. And so we've been targeted by the FBI for our work that we've been doing. That's why, you know, I went away to Australia and I was living there and I came back and I decided my history is with right Blaze tv. I've had stints with Fox News, oann Newsmax. I go, why do we have to take realistic pro American ideas and just yell about it in our bedroom? I want to make a network that is ostensibly reliable based upon the fact that we aren't controlled. And we had a meeting and we agreed the only way that we couldn't be controlled is if we refused to take Zionist money or money from those that, that, that, that are looking out for Zionist interests above the United States. And so there's got to be no clean money or dark money associated with people who put the rights of Israel and the rights of, you know, Jewish supremacy or religious supremacy, these kind of toxic ideas in, in to controlling how we think, say, or what we do here. And that's made us a real big target. And what I noticed is what's really weird about this, I bring this up because as this has come out, speaking of a countersuit, Will Chamberlain and some of these folks associated with Josh Hammer and these other nonprofit and think tanks have now launched these massive investigations into my network accusing us of being foreign agents. And you even see James Lindsay retweeting, because RT covered our story should be. He's going, wow, RT more than enough said. And now they're literally to the point to where Will Chamberlain, Will Chamberlain wrote. Do you guys think by the end of the year, like, Elijah will have to register under Farah, you know, as an agent? So this, this they're using this. You can see this. They want. They want the exact evaluation of my company. They want my assets of my company. And guess what? Wilt Chamberlain is a prominent Zionist Jewish guy. This other guy, neocon Zionist, it says in his bio. All of these people. People are a part of this sort of kabbalistic political class. And it looks like. It looks like the lawsuit is dumb. But that's the problem, is they let their own desire to take me down. I'm a target. They want my company down because I won't take their money. And then they just played their cards too early. Maybe they were going to pull it, but now it's backfired. Her entire comment section is pictures of honeypots. Winnie the Pooh and her. And beekeeper outfits, you know, using AI. So. So I think she messed up.

A (52:20)

Well, yeah, I know we're out of time, unfortunately, but this. This just opens up an incredible. I just still can't wrap my head around how you would allow a lawsuit like this to go forward with the privilege, with the. With the communications and the relationship with the head of the FBI, which could become part of discovery at a jury trial. Like. And not just you. Multiple lawsuits now which could have access to. Because maybe one person dismisses it or it gets dismissed or one person just settles. But we're saying, I didn't do anything wrong. We're going to trial and I wanna see all the documents. I wanna see the communications between you and the FBI director. I mean, this is a bunch of idiots. I just don't. I can't wrap my head around it at all.

C (52:59)

Well, you know what? My one saving grace here is at least they're honest about the fact that you didn't say anything. It was a wordless defamation. But what they otherwise have a problem with is your criticism of the government of Israel. And it's written in the lawsuit, so at least we don't have to guess like, oh, maybe I shouldn't have said those things. You know, we know why we. It's clear how you piss off people who are connected to the government is by criticizing foreign wars and foreign involvement.

B (53:28)

So, yeah, I just want to make one comment. I know you got to go. That's what I want people to see. Just because you guys will probably be updating as this goes on. There'll be some. There's some pretty big drops that are coming. I'll make sure to leak stuff to you guys as. As it comes in. But yeah, the entire lawsuit is actually about. I'm a. It's I'm a bad person, so you can assume I had bad intent. Why am I a bad person? I have no criminal charges in my life. I've. Every lawsuit where someone has claimed I've done something bad. I've won and I've been proven innocent. People do say bad things about public figures and they do smear them. But I have won and overcome those, those, those types of accusations. And the most important part was it's that I, I didn't support Israeli occupation of our government. And if you like that, those ideas, make sure you check out my work. I'm on X at Elijah Schaefer. You can also find me on rumble and YouTube. My network, the rift, rift TV. We're live all the time. But thank you guys so much for having me on. I really appreciate it.

A (54:23)

Yeah, our pleasure. Elijah, thank you so much for being one of the few truth tellers out there. We appreciate it.

C (54:28)

It's incredibly stressful though. I mean, you're making it sound like you have good choices and you're brave about it, but I know what it's, you know, it's. That still can be very stressful. You now have to tangle with very powerful people in a way you didn't intend to do. They entangled you.

B (54:43)

So, you know, my family separated. I'll just say that like because of, because of the no knock warrants and the raids of the FBI and then being in proxy, I have two young boys, a two year old and a one year old, very, very beautiful blonde hair, blue eyed cutie pies. You know, I don't usually use that word, but you know, it's my, it's my boys and my lovely beautiful wife. And they're currently having to live in a separate state with family under the fear that there could be, you know, further retaliation and pressure from the FBI like we've seen in other similar cases. So the, the cost is taking on my family outside of the financial cost that's already in the tens of thousands of dollars just in the last three days is, is immense. And I hope that Alexis Wilkins realizes that, you know, she, she, she may have a hard time quantifying her damages, but we are hook, line and sinker tracking every set of what's happening. And the damages are, are there. And I hope she takes that into account because she's not the only one with access to good lawyers.

C (55:36)

All right, well, thank you so much for telling us your story. We really appreciate it.

A (55:39)

Thanks, Elijah.

C (55:40)

All right, coming up, we're gonna talk about, oh, how do you like A CIA. But this one's run by the European Union. Does that sound awesome? Ursula von der Leyen thinks it does. She would like to be in control of a CIA of her own. And she's got that in the works. We're gonna talk about that. Plus, you know, now that the Canadian government has killed all these ostriches, they're thinking, click, click, click, who's next? They are coming for other animals without proof of any reason to kill animals. We're going to talk to David Crayton about that in just a moment.

A (56:10)

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D (57:20)

Not our fault.

C (57:21)

We have Epstein documents we didn't intend.

A (57:24)

And we've got craziness in the European Union. So we're equal opportunity reporters here covering around the world. Hey, Europe, here's a question for you. You've already given over your sovereignty to an unelected group of globalists who reside in Brussels, Belgium. How would you like for these unelected globalists now to start their own spy network to spy on Russia, China, and of course, European citizens. Would you guys be down with that? Well, that's exactly what's meant to happen. Because according to a new report, the witch herself, Ursula von der Leyen, the European Commissioner, is creating a new intelligence agency in a spy agency inside of the EU bureaucracy. This is Basically a proto CIA for Europe. They say it's to spy on. Excuse me, to spy on Russia. But of course, just like our CIA and our nsa, it will be used to spy on Europeans first and foremost. Dr. Olga Ravasi is the host of the National Conversation. She joins us now to talk about the craziness in Europe. Great to have you on the show. Welcome.

F (58:28)

Thank you. Thanks for having me.

A (58:30)

And thanks for hanging with us. We got a lot of breaking news today with regards to Epstein and everything, everything else, so thank you for that. So what do you make of this? What do you make of this report that the EU is going to set up a new intelligence unit under Ursula von der Leyen, specifically under this unelected group of globalists. So the Portuguese people, the Italian people, the German people have no authority over it, basically?

F (58:53)

Well, that is exactly what's happening in Europe. Europeans have turned their sovereignty over to the unelected bureaucrats, and usually those unelected bureaus, democrats, are in fact failed politicians in each one of those respective countries where they're all of a sudden elevated into these positions of power where nobody ever voted for them, but somehow they have free rein and they can go around dictating to everyone what to do and how to live their lives and furthermore create weaponized agencies that of course are allegedly meant to function externally, but in fact they will be weapon and turn internally and spy on their own people. That is the case all over Europe. That is the case. Unfortunately, it happened here. We are experiencing some of that. We started experiencing it a long time ago, but we kind of noticed in 2015, 2016, with the arrival of President Trump, how those agencies get weaponized, how they steal elections, how the CIA, and I can mention several others, even BND and MI6, and all of them operate unconstitutionally on their own terrain and on their own turf. So that is the case with the Europeans. And, you know, while the European people and you guys, I understand, came back from Europe, so, you know, firsthand, and I have experienced this consistently, we can recognize that blue blueprint of what it means to not only weaponize agencies, to turn them against their own people, but then to steal elections, to spy on everybody, to censor everybody, to police the Internet, to police social media. Look at what's going on in the uk. Granted, they're not part of the European Union, but the same set of internationalists or the cosmopolitans, and the poster child for that being Keir Starmer, they can basically prosecute you for just posting on X or posting on Facebook. And if you dare criticize them, you can be imprisoned. If you dare fly your own flag somehow, your own national flag and turning inward and wanting to show your national pride, well, to this group of unelected bureaucrats and the cosmopolitans and the internationalists, that is the stuff that the PEP peasants do. That is not the things that the elite do. And so this group of people that I'm mentioning, and you know, I'm painting a picture here of France, I'm painting a picture here of Germany, starting with Angela Merkel to today, all of them are doing the same exact thing and that is fragmenting their own populations with uncontrolled but actually controlled demographic replacement and immigration and then further turning against their own people under the guise of, well, we're going to keep an eye on Russia, we're going to keep an eye on China, we're going to keep an eye on the so called adversaries. But interestingly enough, you don't notice any of that happening, for example in Hungary. You don't see it in Slovakia. We just got recently good news out of Czech Republic because they elected Babush who is also conservative. So you don't see that in that kind of like former Eastern bloc, let's say, of countries who are really strongly opposing the European Union bureaucrats, who are opposing immigration, who are opposing sending money consistently to Ukraine and shooting themselves essentially in the foot, which all of the Western nations have done it. So again, this is what's happening all across the west. And Ursula von der Leyen and all of her, you know, colleagues and bureaucrats, as I said, have failed consistently and yet they keep being empowered not only in the Brussels, but I mean, you look at NATO, you look at the International Court Tribunal at the Hague, I mean, Europe is rampant and it's a cesspool of all of these international organizations that somehow are superior in the eyes of these elected bureaucrats to the national institutions of their own countries, countries. So again, I want to go back to Starmer, for example, and that just really painted a picture of him to me. He was asked, what do you prefer, Davos or Westminster? And he didn't hesitate to tell us he prefers Davos. And what does that tell you? Ursula is just yet another example of this. So while they're fragmenting their own countries and sewing discord and they are all on the verge of civil war, they somehow find their moral superiority by creating international organizations or being indebted to to the international organizations. Because again, as I said, the national stuff, the internal stuff is for the street, for the Mob and for the peasants, but not for the elites.

C (64:07)

Now when we lived in Europe, the Digital Services act passed and they sold it to, to us as a way to stop the mob and dirty money and terrorists and of course all the bad guys. Right. But we knew that it was giving them the power to read our WhatsApp, which everyone in Europe uses WhatsApp to communicate or Viber. Yes. And so now the Europeans have allowed this to happen. There was very little fight, unfortunately, because it was so, you know, well sold. And the European economy, economy was so hard that people don't have the time to fight back, to pay attention. And what they're saying now is, and so they have this data is the point I'm trying to make. They've been collecting it since they passed this act, probably before illegally. Now they're saying we need a formal department to take care of it, which tells me they've had all this data, they need to go through it, they need someone in charge. And so, you know, while the Americans are saying we want to abolish the CIA, they do us wrong, wrong. The Europeans are like, let's do that. Now what makes me so sad is that the Portuguese overthrew the secret police in the 70s because they did not want to live like this. How are the European citizens missing that it's happening again? What do you think?

F (65:28)

But that's exactly what you pointed out. It's the strife that they are going through, economics, education, demographic replacement. I mean, people are worrying in Europe how to pay their rents, their mortgages, how to send their children to school and hoping that, you know, their child is not going to be groomed and raped by the mass gangs of foreigners. They're hoping that they're going to be able to afford gas, they're hoping that they're going to be able to afford food because as we mentioned, the Europeans have economically shot themselves in the foot by funding all of these foreign wars. So that is why I don't think, think it's the lack of interest to pay attention. It's the inability to act because they're consumed by their own mere survival, while again, the unelected bureaucrats can basically run rampant. And that is also the point where it's hard to fight when you have this two tier system where yes, you have some elected people that you think, okay, we're going to vote them them out, but what about the unelected people? Nobody is voting for them and they can still consistently pursue these policies. So as we said in the beginning, the sovereignty doesn't really lay within the people, but it doesn't even lay within those who they elect and who they vote for. So when you fulfill the conditions of the political system, cannot self adjust or you don't have the means to adjust it by voting, by participating in it, because nobody really wants to vote anymore because they don't believe in voting. Because nothing changes you. Because kind of like what we're experiencing here, it seems like we're voting. And no matter how you vote, you kind of like get John McCain. Well, that's sort of what's happening in Europe. No matter how you vote, you sort of get the unelected bureaucrats with Ursula and you know, the rest of them. I mean, you guys report on the Balkans, for example. Well, that's consistently what happens in the Balkans. They, you know, they vote, but then they have these unelected bureaucrats who come of, like, come in and tell everybody what they need to do, and they feel superior and they feel that their, you know, moral superiority is over the people who are worrying about their life. So you end up fulfilling the conditions that now leads you to civil strife and civil strife leads to civil war. So, you know, whether it's Ursula or back to Keir Starmer, you know, he. He kind of reminds me of King Charles I. He was violently overthrown and executed, and we ended up with Cromwell and the Republic. So that's literally what every western country in Europe is experiencing. And again, back to Natalie's point, not that the people are unaware, they're unable to function anymore through the political system, through what they thought were legitimate political and civic means, which is leading us to the scary part, which makes sense, can potentially turn into civil war. And we are, I will argue that we are living through it somewhat, but it hasn't completely turned violent. And when you look at how these societies are fragmented or balkanized with, you know, the uncontrolled demographic replacement with the natives versus the foreigners, even those foreigners who were born in. In those respective countries, but they never fundamentally integrated. You have perfect conditions for civil war because there is no adjustment anymore. That is legitimate politically. And if there is no adjustment politically, you know what that leads to, right?

A (69:17)

I mean, you're seeing the destruction of Germany. You're seeing the absolutely destruction of the nuclear power.

F (69:23)

And again, a lot of this is economic. You know, you look at their foreign policy policy, and I think even for us Americans looking at our foreign policy, this happens to leaders, this happens to countries who all of a sudden become enamored by solving international problems, who again, to Them seem far superior because at these international institutions, you solve more important problems where when you turn inward, you actually want to focus on your own people.

D (69:54)

People.

F (69:54)

But they are solving international problems to the detriment of their native populations. And unfortunately, that is also happening here to us in the United States. And, you know, even President Trump's base is kind of becoming disenfranchised and unhappy because we want our internal problem solved. We don't want to be focused outward. But I think now we are waking up to the fact that focusing on international and foreign policy actually costs you here domestically, costs you at the pump, it costs you in the grocery store. And as Natalie said, it costs you. You know, your. Your mere survival is at stake. They can spy on you and they can barrage you any way they want and destroy your livelihood.

C (70:37)

Basically, yes.

A (70:38)

Yeah. And these people, sadly and economically, they're being crushed. So they go along with it. You know, our digital id. Okay, you're going to give me a government stipend of Euros because I'm broke right now. So when you, when you, if you want to control people, people, you beat them down. And that's exactly what they said.

F (70:54)

That's exactly it. And they are completely beaten down. So they cannot even focus on some of these larger problems because they're focused on survival. And that is the sad part, because once the economic collapse happens, and I feel that inevitably it will happen not just in Europe, but here, unfortunately as well, that is with all of these preconditions that I outline declined, that is the moment when you can expect violence. And unfortunately, it's going to be bloody. Because, look, the globalists, the internationalists, they know. And look, this is not. It's all by design. It's not the glitch of the system, it's a feature of the system. So basically, once they fragmented enough where there is no societal cohesion, where there's no high trust society, where you can naturally come to a consensus, once you break it down completely, it leads to civil war and it becomes bloody because you're attacking the weakest link in the chain. For example, when you look at the Balkans, they attack the religious, the ethnic. In the United States, you're kind of looking at racial. So anything that is weak within a society is being exploited. And for the Europeans, that is actually this demographic replacement basement, where now all of a sudden the native populations are feeling like minorities in their own homes. They are being spied on, they are being beaten down to Clayton's point, and they can barely survive. So what is left for them to do. How do you battle this out?

D (72:32)

Yeah.

A (72:33)

Gosh, you're great. Great to have you here on the. I can't believe we haven't had a show yet. Thank. Well, you're going to be back. We'll just have a regular.

F (72:40)

Thank you.

A (72:40)

We'll have a regular.

D (72:41)

Please.

F (72:41)

I'm so glad to talk to you.

C (72:42)

Well, ask her nicely.

A (72:44)

I'll, I'll tell her you're coming back.

C (72:46)

You're coming back, if you will. Would love to.

A (72:48)

Would be surrounded by strong women coming back. All right. Great to see you. Thank you so much. Dr. Rasi, great to have you here on the show.

F (72:59)

Thanks a lot.

A (73:00)

Our pleasure. Our pleasure. All right. Coming up, speaking of the decline of Western civilization, look at Canada. I mean, nowhere is it more explicitly obvious that this decline happening in real time than under what was the Trudeau government now under the Mark Carney government and the tyranny and authoritarian government attacking and going after these farmers now in British Columbia killing hundreds of ostriches, which happened late last week. Well, guess what? They're not stopping with that one farm. They're going to continue because they have their eyes on other farms and the tyranny continues in Canada. It's really one of the most horrible stories, stories that we've had to cover here on the show. And we will do that in just a moment.

C (73:38)

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A (75:16)

Well, last Wednesday, the ostriches at the Universal Ostrich Farm in British British Columbia, Canada, were mostly alive. They were mostly healthy, although they were basically being starved and not being taken care of because they were being under the Watch of the CFIA. But they were mostly alive, some of them over 35 years old, happy, dancing, playing with the owners. Some of them are older than the owners themselves. Then the terrorist organization known as the CFIA moved in at nighttime and they had already set up a barrack, barricade, of course, a round of hay bale so people couldn't see what they were about to do, which was fire and kill these 400 hostages, slaughter them. And then when daylight hit, you could see this dead bodies of hundreds of birds hidden under tarps all over this area. As journalist David Crayton put it in an article for the Blaze Media, he wrote, massacre at Universal Ostrich Farm, Canada, kills hundreds of birds despite no evidence of avian flu. The Canadian Food Inspection Agency slaughtered hundreds of ostriches at the Edgewood, British Columbia Universal Ostrich Farm Thursday night using rifles. At least two marksmen believed to be working at the CFI's enforcement division unloaded hundreds of rounds into the birds beginning on Thursday evening. And by the way, while they're sifting through material with all of that bloody material, they weren't wearing any sort of PPE costumes. Like, here's one individual here. He was in there in the pen. If these birds were so damn dangerous, why is he not wearing any hazmat suits? Why is he not wearing any kind of ppe? No masks, nothing? Because they know it was all a lie because they were no threat to anybody and they just had to save face. David Craden joins us now. He writes@craydonsrightnews.com and he wrote that article in the Blaze from Ottawa, Canada. David joins us now. And David, it looks like, I mean, it was awful. It was an awful weekend just seeing these images of these birds being slow slaughtered, the tears of the owners of the farm. So it's been an awful, awful weekend. Now that some of this has settled a little bit, the farmers are resolved to fight back. But the CFIA is not stopping, are they? They're not just stopping with this one.

C (77:25)

Farm, which is what you had warned.

E (77:29)

No. And they're not stopping. They're going after other farms who could potentially be part of their abuse. And I, I can't tell you how incredible this was. Thursday evening, Friday morning, I was getting information by the minute from people who were on the scene telling me that these ostriches were being shot. And they weren't just being shot, they were being killed. And so many were not, not surviving the gunshots. And so there were many, many of these ostriches killed the morning after that, were beheaded by the CFI people. And it is absolutely horrendous what is happening to this farm because this is all about destroying this farm, leaving it with no, nothing except graveland. And if you look at this farm today, there's nothing left. They've taken these ostriches away. And by the way, I have to say this, we have been following the march of the hostages ever since. They're ending up apparently in Surrey BC at a place, place that they obviously had planned about. And we are going to find out what happens to these ostriches after this because they don't want, again, this is all about not taking test samples of these hostages. The last thing this family fed said was we would want that evidence, we want evidence of what happened to these hostages. They're not allowing them that. We are going to ensure that they do that. We are watching and waiting to find out where these remains of these ostriches remain because believe me, this is a government conspiracy. We don't like to use that word, conspiracy, but this is a government conspiracy between the federal government, the RCMP, the, the FCIA and the provincial government of B.C. at this point where these officers are ending up, we are going to find out, we are going to report that and we are going to make sure that people know that how their tax dollars rest spent to get rid of healthy ostriches who should never have been killed in the first place.

C (80:20)

Now the problem is, I mean many, but one of them is that because the government can just do this and no Supreme Court stopped them without any proof of necessity that they can keep going into. I mean most people don't eat ostriches, but where are they going to go next? Into the food source.

D (80:40)

Right.

C (80:41)

And so have there, there have been reports of other farms saying, oh, we're starting to get letters from the CFIA now. Tell us about how that now the ball's rolling down the hill.

E (80:56)

The very idea that the government can annihilate ostriches or chickens or cows or whatever, whatever is on your private property has begun about 12 years ago under the previous conservative government. And this is why we have to stop this right now. Because. And Pierre Pollio, as the leader of the official opposition, has to stand up and say, this is unacceptable. We have to fight back against this because this policy is no longer violent, viable, realizable. And even the World Health Organization, as I've said repeatedly, has backed away from the stamping out policy of killing every last bird, every last piece of cattle, everything, because it might have been affected at one time. This is insanity. We have to back away from the problem policy. And this is why I think Katie as, as harmed as she has been as the spokeswoman from this farm, she needs to continue to fight against what is going on here, which is we are going to continue to kill every last animal and it's going to, it's going to drive the price of eggs, the price of meat, the price of everything up because this is an insanity policy and we have to keep fighting back on this. And as hard as that is right now for Katie, fighting this because I know she wanted to be on the show tonight, but she's just can't do it right now. It's been so hard for her. And so I think that's where her, where her mission in the future lies, lies is so that this doesn't happen again. This can't happen, be allowed to again. We have to keep fighting back on this.

A (83:02)

Yeah. And it's not even about the ostriches. Right. It is about the government overreach. And so many of our viewers who've written to us and who've watched the show and said, you know, we were praying and praying and praying and then when it was all lost, they were so devastated, so devastated. And it's horrible to watch. It's not just about the birds, though. It's about, about the massive government overreach and lying, gaslighting the Canadian people, failure to do the tests on the animals which could have solved this all for everybody. It could have led to a study of herd immunity and how all these animals were totally healthy. But they can't do that because they have to save face for their own tyranny. And I just fear, and I've seen a lot of people saying the Canadian government is not going to stop with just these ostriches, as you pointed out, that there will be, there could be a human calling that this is. The Canadian government has obviously become very demonic in its move towards this maid program and the assistant suicides in the country. Like, this is a very, I almost say it's like a demonic government at play here. Transhumanist government.

E (84:05)

It's an absolutely demonic government. Because who is next in terms of where the government's at after? What if your pet exhibits signs of avian influenza? And I, I put my pet on my, my, you know, I, I, I, this, this affects me very deeply. I, I said, you're not going to get my black cat because they're going after black cats now in Vancouver. And I said, you're not going to get my black hat. Black hat, because I love that black hat and I am not going to let you go to do that. But that's where these people are at. They are literally trying to go after animals that they think are somehow part of their problem. And it's their problem. They have created this mess. Not the homeowners, not the pet owners. And this is how bad this is become. And if the Canadian government is no longer a government of the people, it has it ceased to be that a long time ago. It's the government of the globalists. It's the government of Mark Carney and the people he makes money off of. And we are going to stop this. We are going to fight back in a big way.

C (85:31)

Let me just ask you all of this. These hashtags that I see now is justice for the ostriches. But we tried that. They went all the way to the court. What possibly could be done, like litigation, like who is there to appeal to? You went all the way to Donald Trump, who is not an official of your country. So what does that mean?

E (85:55)

We need Pierre Poliev as the leader of the official Operation Opposition to take this issue seriously. He has not taken this issue seriously because the stamping up policy, as I learned today, was initiated by Stephen Harper of the previous Conservative government. No wonder they're not taking this seriously. Time to wake up to the present. Time to wake up to here and now. Now. And Pierre Pov, time to wake up to your conservative followers across Canada who expect better of you. And he's not doing that. So who do we appeal to? The Conservative Party, Canada Poliev. Pierre Poliev as the Conservative Party of leader and the official opposition leader. Yeah, we've got to appeal to these people who do appeal to justice and right I had Tamara on Leach on my program earlier today. She alienated the absolute, incredible similarity between what was going on with the truckers, with, with, with people who were concerned about losing their freedom during that revolt. That concern, that revolt, in terms of Canadians saying enough. It's the same thing that's happening right now at a farm in Edgewood, bc. They are losing their freedom. And when they lose their freedom, all Canadians are losing their freedom. Their freedom of speech, their freedom of assembly, and their freedom to own their own damn property. We're losing that in Canada. I can't say that enough. We, Canada, as, as we've heard so often from this show, Canada is cooked unless we fight back in a way that means business with this goddamn liberal government, which is out to get us.

C (88:08)

Yeah. And is winning. So I don't want to end it there, but I mean, it just, it feels so hopeless at this point. And we're so. We're so close to the tragedy having happened within the last week, and it's so upsetting. But thank you for being on this story and not letting it go. You know, it actually what's upsetting, even further upsetting. It's all upsetting is all of the press it got after the birds were already killed. Like, we. There were those of us who were to trying. Trying to scream our heads off about it. And then now that other people see it, they realize, and I wish that we could have screamed a little bit louder. But what can be done now? There's no. There's no going back. So thank you for bringing us your context. As always. We're sorry that this is so personally upsetting, but we appreciate the passion always. David Crayton from Canada joining us today. Thank you so much.

E (89:02)

Well, Natalie, and we love you what you're doing here. Thank you so much, much for having me on today. And we love your show and so many people tell me that every time that I appear on this show. Thank you for doing what you do on Redacted because we love your show. And Clayton and Natalie, we love you so much. Thank you.

A (89:26)

Thanks, David. And I know how. What an incredibly difficult weekend this was for you as well. Thank you, David, as always. It was horrible, like getting those messages because our show had ended last Thursday night and then we started getting word of the. They're just unloading, just slaughtering these ostriches with guns. And. And David was texting me and he's just like, oh, it was just horrible. They were there on the farm. It was just really terrible. So anyway, I really thought There would.

C (89:54)

Be some kind of Hail Mary. I really did. Maybe, you know, I need to lay off the Lifetime television for women because I thought that. No, I don't. All I watch is crazy Korean shows.

A (90:07)

Yeah.

C (90:08)

But those are. Those tend to be quite positive, too. So I needed to.

A (90:12)

Incredibly defeating. I mean, like, David's been working on this story for months and months and months, like every day.

C (90:17)

Yeah.

A (90:18)

Trying to raise awareness of the Canadian government, trying to get the right people to stop this. And. And in the end, you know, like, we. We tried on our side here in the US on our show. We just could and we couldn't. And appeal to the President, appeal to RFK Jr. You know, everyone, as best we could. We got, you know, Tucker Carlson to cover the. COVID the story. So anyway, it's just devastating. Yeah. Anyway. All right, well, thank you guys so much for joining us today. Hey, we should mention that we do have a daily newsletter. We try to cover the stories maybe that we don't get to cover here on the show, but we cover it. And you can read it about five or 10 minutes over your cup of coffee every day. It's totally free. Natalie writes it every night and into the morning hours. She works very hard on it. And again, you can read it about five or 10 minutes, cover about four or five of the big stories of the day, other stories that are redacted and hidden from you in the mainstream media. So just go to redacted.inc it's not.com and just put in your email address and you will receive a welcome email. Might go to your spam folder or your junk folder. You just need to move that over to your inbox and click that. Yes, you do want to receive the newsletter. And then you will receive the newsletter tomorrow. Thursday. We publish it Monday through Thursday and you should get it first thing in the morning. The redacted newsletter.

C (91:39)

All right. We're going to be busy, you guys. There's a lot of new Epstein emails to go through. Some of them are old, some of them are new. It's confusing, but it is a flood. This is something. This is a Mercury retrograde for the government. That's what's happening. And so we're going to stay on this. You just gave yourself a.

A (91:57)

It's one of those days. It's one of those days where I sit and I read these emails and I'm like, I'm just pulling my hair out. My kids will be like, what are you doing?

C (92:04)

Look at you. I'm like, it's like Ace Ventura like, wait, what? He goes, what? Try and do that.

A (92:13)

That's what I sit. When I sit, I'm reading, like emails and stuff like that. Or going gross. Like grosser constantly. Maybe that's why I've got such good head of hair, because I'm always like, like constantly massaging it. Just constantly getting in there, you know? Yeah, constantly getting in there.

C (92:28)

I mean, on a personal front, I am glad to see, like I said, the media absolutely eat crap on this. That they had people in these prestigious publications warning Epstein, and then they have the nerve to go after conservative journalists or anybody who questions the narrative that they're trying to post about COVID or what have you.

D (92:52)

Right.

C (92:52)

Like they took the piss out of redacted for telling the truth about the war in Ukraine. We don't have anybody in the Epstein files on our staff. Literally nobody. How about that? So they're flinging mud and they are the worst. So again, I'm not going to say the F word, but. But you know what I mean when I say New York Times, get effed and then F yourself from there and then go F yourself from there and then until you get back here and then F yourself again to the New York Times, to the USA Today, to cnn.

A (93:25)

You're all corrupt.

D (93:26)

Yeah.

C (93:26)

I hope that your organization implodes and it ruins your credit score because you don't.

A (93:33)

Like, ruins your credit score.

C (93:35)

All of these bad things happen. Right.

A (93:39)

I hope you have to wait 30 minutes in line at a DMV.

C (93:42)

I hope you have perpetual jock itch. I hope you stub your toe on every hard piece of furniture. Anybody who has dared to throw mud from those organizations. Perpetual jock itch. Every heartbeat. Perpetual jock itch.

A (93:58)

Glad that Siri's looking up jock itch for us. Yeah.

B (94:01)

I hope you walk. Walk across. I was just going to say walk across a room of Legos in your bare feet.

A (94:07)

Yeah.

C (94:08)

I hope all of those things for anyone who has dared to fling mud from those organizations. We didn't sell the Iraq war. We have nobody on it, you know, tipping off Epstein on our payroll. Fuck you. You can get fucked. And then from there, too. That's what I have to say about all of. Of. I'm so mad to see right from inside of these, you know, these people ruined our lives. They ruined. They take the power to ruin other people's lives. They think they're so superior and that they cover for pedophiles. I cannot believe it.

A (94:45)

Not only do they cover for pedophiles, they collude with pedophiles Most of them are. Most of them are New York Times, USA Today, two of the most corrupt news organizations in the world, next to the BBC. Like, who's reading this filth? Like, you know, who's reading this garbage? Who's actually paying to have a New York Times subscription? I hope none of you, by the way. I hope when you're at a hotel and that's the only time you ever see a USA Today, I hope you take it and I hope you, like, line your birdcage with it. I hope you use it to go to the bathroom and wipe the toilets down with a USA Today. It's garbage. Garbage. And these people colluding with a pedophile after he had already been arrested, after he had been out of prison. It's disgusting. Anyway, so we're going to end on that happy note.

D (95:34)

So we'll.

C (95:34)

We'll keep, you know, we'll read these documents overnight. We'll come back. Maybe I shouldn't have said some of that. I'm sorry I said I wasn't going to say the F word. And then I said the F word. A lot of it. Like I said, it's okay. Is the role that the media has played and our lives and. Yeah, I'm just. I'm upset to think that this would.

B (95:52)

Be the Mudslingers, and if this doesn't, like, finally ruin their credibility, to realize, like, if they're lying about that, you can pretty much bet they're lying about everything. If you haven't figured it out by now, then I don't know what to tell you.

C (96:04)

Yeah. Anyhow, okay. We'll leave it at that. I'm sorry. I will go pay penance for my potty mouth. And as we Latins do, wash my. Wash my mouth out with hot sauce.

A (96:16)

I'll think of a good punishment. Don't you guys worry.

C (96:22)

All right, goodbye, everybody.

A (96:24)

Bye, everyone.

C (96:25)

We'll see you come back in a better mood tomorrow.

A (96:26)

Maybe someone's in the chat room said I'll be bald because I'll be pulling my hair out reading these emails.

C (96:31)

Yeah, right.

A (96:31)

Be bald tomorrow. All right, everyone, have a great night.