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Clayton
Welcome everybody into redacted on this Monday. So glad to have all of you here. We've got a very busy show for you. Presidential threats against Iran, attacks against US Navy infrastructure, oil infrastructure, Gulf and is this the end of NATO pulling thousands of troops out of Germany? Is the. Well, we know NATO is on its last legs, but is this the death nail? We're gonna look at the end of NATO and all of that today as it relates to the war in Iran.
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Natalie
Also one European country now putting implant chips into their citizens. You know, it's a, it's a convenience, it's a credit card, it's a digital id. You don't have to carry stuff. Would you opt into that?
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Clayton
Would you put a. Yeah, put a microchip in your, in your wrist.
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Natalie
Medical records, all that stu happening. It's here. That's actually happening. You know what else is happening? Massive earthquakes at Area 51. Clusters of earthquakes. Is that normal?
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Clayton
Well, and it happened directly after Tulsi Gabbard visited there, right after President Trump talked about disclosure. As we move towards disclosure, like why was there some sort of a reaction to a security infrastructure, something security protocol that unfolded at Area 51. We're gonna look at that because as we get closer to disclosure, people say, oh, this is just one giant distraction from what's, you know, what's happening in the Middle East. Well, is it? Well, we're going to talk about that today on the show.
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Natalie
Also we're going to talk about Cyrus Scofield, the author of the Scofield reference Bible. This is the text that Christian Zionists and evangelicals use to justify their support of Israel. Did you know that it was started and funded by Wall street bankers, real estate tycoons and early Zionists at an elite social club in New York City? It is not a grassroots movement. We're going to look at the history of who this person is, why it is so influential on American Politics, even.
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Clayton
all right. Just getting everything in place here. We had some.
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Natalie
I had a little glitch.
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Clayton
Well, there's, there's apparently some Internet issues and some of the big services. I don't know if you guys have been noticing that today. And a lot of the things, of course, that are, like, backed by AWS are down. Once again, this is how it happens when the entire Internet infrastructure, like, relies on that. It's like, okay, well, we are back. All right, well, NATO may have just took its last breath with the announcement by President Trump that thousands of U.S. forces stationed in Germany would be removed. More on that part of the story in a minute. But first, some breaking news to cover. Over the last few hours, Iran struck multiple targets throughout the Middle east, including oil infrastructure in the United Arab Emirates. And of course, this is vital infrastructure to that region and to the world. And now a lot of it on fire. Different oil infrastructure here in the UAE on fire. The US Navy also reportedly attacked by Iranian ships. Iran hit US Navy ships with multiple missile strikes. Now CENTCOM is saying that that didn't happen, but Iran is saying yes, it absolutely did happen. Here is the British news covering it. Watch the state Media that a U.S. warship has turned back from the area of the Strait of Hormuz and that according to Iran's Navy, it's prevented the entry of U.S. warships into the Hormuz area. Recording to state television, going on to add that two missiles hit a US Warship near Jask island after it ignored Iranian warnings. Now this is being reported by the Fars news Agency. That's state media in Iran. I cannot at this moment independently verify that for you. So this is what we're hearing from the Iran on their side saying that this didn't happen, but the Iranians saying it did. So we're at this sort of impasse now, but things are deteriorating, it seems, quickly. And Iran says, look, we threaten you if you try to move through the Strait of Hormuz. We will attack you. And that's by all assumptions, that's exactly what happened. Colonel Daniel Davis is the host of the Deep Dive with Dan Davis and he joins us now to break down the NATO piece of this. US Forces missing in Africa and what is happening right now with the Strait of Hormuz. Colonel, great to see you as always. Welcome back to the show.
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Colonel Daniel Davis
Always a delight to be here. Clayton, thanks for having me back.
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Clayton
Our pleasure as always. I think we maybe should start with the NATO piece of this. As we've been covering here for a couple of years. It seems that NATO has been on its last legs. Now this move seems a straight affront to the NATO structure by moving thousands of forces out of Germany and basically saying you're on your own. What do you make of this latest move? And is this just the latest sort of death by a thousand cuts for NATO?
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Colonel Daniel Davis
It may just be the latest one death by a thousand cuts. It's just the next one in line, I suppose. And of course, it came about like so many other things that the Trump administration does as a knee jerk reaction to something because Friedrich Metz, the chancellor of Germany, came out and said that the United States has no strategy. They don't know what they're doing in the Iran war, just like they didn't in Afghanistan and the Iraq wars. And what a shock. Trump didn't like that very much. And so I think within a day he, you know, first of all said, oh, well, he's dumb and whatever. But then he said, you know, we're thinking about Taking some troops out. And then that seemed to pick up some, some speed. And then we said, you know, actually we're thinking about maybe taking 5,000 troops out now. Now we'll see if that materializes. I've heard various reports connecting to the Pentagon that it could take anywhere from 6 to 12 months to actually pull that off anyway, because it's a big issue. I actually was part of two separate groups during my six years. I lived in Germany during my active duty days where I helped draw down some posts. And it's a long, painful period process just to get the thing shut down anyway. Unless you literally just don't care and you just tell everybody to, you know, drive to the exits and leave, but you have to move gear and equipment and that's got to be flown back. It's a very, very time consuming process anyway. There's also request of the Pentagon not to take those troops out of Germany and move them back home, but to move them further east like into Romania or Poland, possibly even. There's some, you know, they would love to have that. They want to pick up whatever Germany may lose, but I doubt that we would do that because I don't think that the point is to, you know, just spread them somewhere else in Europe, but to bring them back to the United States. But it's. If this was a coherent process, I'm for it. I think that we should. I think that we've way outlived the life of NATO and it should come to a reasonable. And the nations in Europe should be responsible for their own security. They should pay all of it, just like we pay all of our security. Nothing special for them. They're now, this is no longer 1949 when they were devastated from the Second World War and, you know, they didn't have the capacity. They needed us and we were all together. Made sense then. I was 100%. Obviously I wasn't around then, but in looking back, I would have been 100% for that because it did make sense and we all benefited from it. To include us, but not anymore. Ever since the end of 1992 when the Soviet Union disbanded and then the Warsaw Pact disbanded, the reason for NATO's existence disbanded. But we couldn't do that. We tried to make it something it wasn't, et cetera. And that's led to the Russia, Ukraine war and moving it closer to their border and all that went together, it was a mess. And it never did anything to improve our national security. It was just a net drain. And so it needs to go away. But the problem is now how do you get that done? And again, if it was done with a coherent plan, that would be fine because they may not like it. But if you do it in coordination and cooperation with allies that we've been with for decades, I think that we have a responsibility to do it the right way. But it doesn't look like we are. It looks like we're going to do it just like so many other things in the Trump administration, emotional driven, and then forget about the consequences and just move out of it. But I think to your bigger question, is NATO done? I think it is done and I think it's gonna be replaced by something else. And nobody knows what that's gonna be yet, but they're gonna have to figure it out.
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Natalie
Now you're talking about emotionally driven. Over the weekend, President Trump announced what he's now calling Project Freedom. You think you would just stay away from a name like that because it signals Orwellian mal intent. But what he's saying is, hey, we can now it's like a humanitarian effort to guide stuck ships through. Before he said we would sort of rhino them through. Like, we're the best, we're the greatest. We're going to guide you through. When no one took us up on that, he's like, well then actually it's just like a humanitarian guiding service that we're offering. It's the same effing thing. What. How are we supposed to. Like, is there any difference? He's still trying to do the same thing, just rebranding.
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Colonel Daniel Davis
Well, yeah, I tell you, Natalie, it's just, it's even more weird than that because you, you had CENTCOM actually put out a lot of contradictory information. First of all, they're saying, well, we're not escorting anything through there. Let's be clear on that. We don't have the ships for that. But then they separately put out this post on X where they said in support of this operation, we have. I forget the number of ships that they have out there. There's like 100 aircraft, a bunch of other things that they said. Some of the. I can't remember the third category. All this is in support of president's move there to get ships through, etc. And then we, then we want to go and we want to brag and say that we got two American flagged vessels out. So it wasn't international. There were two. That's disputed too, because we claim two American flag vessels came out. The Iranian side says no vessels came out. I have. Maybe it's been out there, I haven't seen in the last couple of hours. But earlier today when I looked, I didn't see any independent confirmation like where people can track, you know, a ship's tracker as it goes through. Maybe, maybe it's true, I don't know. But then also CENTCOM said that separately or in different order that two American warships went through the Strait of Hormuz and then allegedly backed out of it. And we're now in the Arabian Gulf, but then that they didn't escort these tankers through. So it's, it's not clear what happened. But no matter what you want to say, look, there were two ships that allegedly went through. There's about 2,000 of those ships of various kinds that are stuck inside the Persian Gulf. So if you got two out, great. Those are two American flag, they're not anybody else's. And there was at least one South Korean tanker that was attacked in a report of one other by Iran because they tried to get out without their permission, demonstrating that the Strait is still closed and that it's still in the control of the Iranian side. So one has to wonder, and this was by Barack Ravid in actuals early this morning, that there are those in the administration that are saying, we just want to set up something so that Iran will then attack these ships and then we can say, aha, see, they did it. They were the ones who broke. And now we have to go and respond. That's in the news today. That's not any sources that I have. That's just published in Axios. So you have to look at what's actually happened and not just what's said because that's the one thing that might make some sense. We'll see what happens later on though.
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Clayton
Yeah, using it as sort of a false flag, you know, here we go. See, we told you these ships are going to be attacked.
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Colonel Daniel Davis
Is it a false flag? When you, when you pick the flag up and go, here's the flag, I'm going to put it's false.
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Clayton
Right.
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Colonel Daniel Davis
It's really bad the way we're doing it. But I get your point.
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Clayton
Also the oil infrastructure, you know, Iran. Well, we have this and talk about centcom, this back and forth today with, with CENTCOM saying no US Navy ship, destroyer, whatever, not hit Iran says, yes, we did hit it, two missiles. And it was forced then to leave as a result and retreat. Of course, in the United States media, you probably won't hear anything about it. People are sharing all sorts of old videos, fake videos Whatever. So don't fall for those videos that are being shared online about this ship being attacked. One of them, I think, was even from video game footage. So I don't know. It's crazy. The lies, the fog of war, then that and then the attacks on oil infrastructure in the Gulf. I mean, just at a high level, it seems like this is escalating. I thought we were getting off of this.
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Colonel Daniel Davis
Yeah. And the problem is, going back to that Axios piece, that President Trump is just getting impatient and that he's tired of the situation of no war. Is it a war? Is it a ceasefire? Is it a pause? What is it? I want it to be solved. So he's trying, apparently some kind of forcing mechanism, at least according to the reporting. He initially actually wanted the Navy to physically escort people through there. But, man, hopefully, and I presume the article didn't address this, but presumably either the Navy said, that's not going to work, sir, then we're going to get our ships hit and we won't be able to defend with that close range and especially logistically. There's 2,000 ships in there. Are you going to, like, send American vessels? Remember the last one that we did there in the Reagan administration, it was in place for nine months and, and we had more or less something close to double or triple the number of ships available for that. And even that was unselective when we weren't at war with Iran. This time we are. So it's radically different. But you don't have a fraction of the number of ships to do that. And that wouldn't work anyway because that's not how the Gulf is closed and you just. Just be inevitable until we finally got them hit. So that's not a solution. The only thing that is for is whether it's false flag or stupidity, that's how you get things escalated. Because at some point you're going to put a ship in there and it's going to get hit and, and then, of course, we have to respond then. And we're not going to let a warship get hit and do nothing again. It just really looks like that somebody is hoping that happens so that they can go back to fighting, so that they can prove there's no military solution then either. All that's going to do is get more oil infrastructure burned up throughout the region. It's going to drive oil to 50 or higher, probably because now you're physically taking the potential for even making more oil back on the international market, pushing it back into 2027, probably in a best case scenario, because it'll take forever to get a lot of this stuff rebuilt. And right now we're in a position to where within weeks we could be seeing 150, $175. And you can't hide that with the paper price anymore because of the problems that are already built in. And naturally you can get the fertilizer, the food production, helium, aluminum, all kinds of stuff already. So we have got. We are really under the gun. We have a very short period of time to get this fixed and off the table very soon, or the price is going to be more than just a recession, but maybe a depression.
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Clayton
Wow.
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Natalie
I want to ask you about Operation African lion because there are two missing soldiers, search and rescue underway. It just feels like one of those times when you're resisting something and you keep going towards it. Like there's continuous egg on the face of the US Military. What do you make of this and what it costs us reputationally.
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Colonel Daniel Davis
Listen, I mean, I've been asking this for years, even when I was on active duty. Why are we in Africa at all? Why do we have. And so many things have happened bad. You know, we've had troops that have been killed there before. On whose benefit are we there for? How is this in American national interest? And these kinds of things keep periodically happening because all you can have when you get into the hornets nest is you're going to get stung periodically. That's just how it works. And I just for the life of me don't understand why we want to keep going in there. I mean, we sent, you know, President Trump fired some missiles into Nigeria a few months back, you know, because allegedly there was some, you know, attacks on some Christian churches there.
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Chris Lato
That.
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Colonel Daniel Davis
That was legit. There was. But what was the point of it? What are you taken. Because those. That was basically something close to a civil war in Nigeria. There are two big warring factions there. There's been a lot of Christians that were attacking the Muslim groups and Muslim groups that were attacking the Christian groups. It was more cultural than it was even religion. They just happened to be in those religions, but they were definitely going after each one of them. And now that we went in, they threw a few cruise missiles in. And then what. What did that solve? Did that solve the war itself? Did that solve any of the fundamentals that were involved with it? Or it is just kind of like, well, that's what I did today. And now I'm going to move on because I got bored and I went off over here. I mean, that's kind of how President Trump operates. And then we sent some troops in after that to do what was never fully explained and this is just endemic across the whole African continent, is that we keep doing stuff like this. It's just little bits and pieces. And unfortunately, this is not just Trump. This is all the administrations going back a long way. I think Bush did some, Obama did some, certainly Biden did. We just have to have our fingers everywhere towards no evident benefit to our country or even to our allies, for that matter.
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Maria Z
Right.
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Natalie
It's not just a little bit here, a little bit there. In Somalia, we've launched our 61st airstrike. Anti War is keeping track of that. And 61 airstrikes in Somalia since calendar year 2026, and we're in May. What are we accomplishing?
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Colonel Daniel Davis
What is that doing that is insane. I mean, this goes back to the Clinton administration, for crying loud. Nothing has ever been solved here. What do we think is going to get solved this time? I mean, this, this is just part of the sick mind. I'm just going to call it what it is of many people. This is not just a ding on Trump because this predates him by a large measure. But it's those in the Pentagon and whoever is calling the shots here. And I don't even know for sure, both policymakers and military leaders, they just have this obsession to doing something because we can and you can see. I mean, I had not seen those numbers for Somalia this year. I've been obviously focused on all these bigger wars here. And I have to admit, that shocks me. I did not know it was that many because it's been so many years of just languishing, doing nothing. And I have argued in the past about why are we in Somalia at all, because all you do is you can hit targets. It's like Afghanistan. All the time that I was in Afghanistan and was studying it in the years in between my two combat deployments, it was evident that you could have a combat operation every other day and you could kill a, quote, bad guy. You could find somebody to consider a bad guy, and you could have a tactical operation. And we have guys on the ground who are really good at what they do, and they can take out this target, they can kill that person, they can blow this thing up. And what, what did it accomplish? Nothing, except servicing a target and keeping alive the flow of needing more money and more deployments. And of course, all these guys, Natalie, they always do this. It just drives me crazy. All these, like, leaders, then they'll publish all this stuff about look at all this thing we accomplished, we attacked all this list of things and we killed all these bad people. And, and then they'll show some pictures, some happy pictures of the Somalia side that we're, whose side we're taking and we're doing all this great stuff and they've improved all this. It's all fiction. It's just all or it doesn't mean anything. One either the good stuff or the bad stuff because nothing changes and it's not going to because you can't solve those problems with bombs and missiles and deployed ground troops. All you can do is periodically get some killed and have some other things that happen. And who knows what's happened to these current two you're talking about, but it's just the next two in line and it'll continue happening until we withdraw those troops and let the people of Somalia figure it out without our keeping, trying to keep a finger on the scale.
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Clayton
It's a world going mad. That's what I feel right now. The discussion right now about energy lockdowns, number of experts coming forward saying we're heading there, we're heading for energy lockdowns, Colonel. And it's like, I feel like you have Scott Benson on TV just a few minutes ago saying short term pain right now for everything that we're dealing with. Gas prices will continue to go up and you're starting to see some of these lockdown stocks. This is, this is concerning to me. Things like zoom starting to turn a corner in a big way and all these investors are like flooding into some of these lockdown stocks. Like I'm just watching the money flowing right now and it's terrifying. It's terrifying. $1.5 trillion for a military budget scattered around the world right now. Lockdown stocks are starting to pop back. I don't know, I just, you know, I don't want to go with emotion, but I just feel like something, something big is coming and it's really, I
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Colonel Daniel Davis
mean this is not a conspiracy. I mean you just, just look at the fundamentals, the economic fundamentals, energy fundamentals. I mean, unlike the COVID time where you had government mandates that this and that, maybe we'll get there some of this, but you know, this won't even be like that. You don't even hardly have to have any of those. If there's not fuel, you're not driving anywhere. If there's not enough diesel, you're not going to be able to do sufficient amounts of farming. If there's not the fertilizer you're not going to be able to grow sufficient amount of food and we're going to be in a real world of hurt. And right now our actions like what looks to me today that we may have lift the fuse back. And I mean, who knows, as soon as tonight, tomorrow night, later this week, we could be back into the hot phase of this which is going to guarantee this energy is going to, this energy crisis will extend into next year. And this is going to be the biggest one in our history. Bigger than the 1970, 1973 strikes that have happened because they were short term and they were relatively small percentage of the oil that was off the market. We're already beyond that. And when you have these alleged smart people like Scott Besson saying this, he's not a dumb man. So that that almost guarantees he's lying because he can't be, he can't be this stupid that he believes what he said, that this is just a short term and everything's going to turn around. Anyone with any kind of knowledge about the system understands that that's not true. That it's already baked into real trouble right now and it should send off all the alarm bells to do whatever you have to do to get this stupid war of choice off the table now to limit the damage. But instead it looks like they're ready to ramp up to additional damage which is going to make the pain later this fall even into the summer. But man, when you start getting into the fall and into the winter into the first part of next year, I mean we're going to be in a real world of hurt here and there's no obvious answers to how do you, how do you mitigate this further absent finding a diplomatic solution which we'll hate but is much better than trying one more time with military which will bake in and physically destroy infrastructure making it take. Now we're in the years with an S of trying to get out of this and it's, it's going to be a problem.
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Clayton
Yeah, I think lit the fuse is the right phrase to be sure. Colonel Davis, always great to see you hosted the deep dive. Check him out of course on YouTube on X and follow him all places. We love, we love having the Colonel on. Thank you so much. Great to see you Dan.
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Colonel Daniel Davis
Always my pleasure. Thanks you guys.
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Natalie
Great to see you.
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Clayton
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Clayton
Well, a few years ago here on Redacted, we covered Sweden's bizarre microchip implanting story and their plan, which would have everyday citizens opting to have microchips implanted right into their bodies, right into their hands. The RFID or near field communications chips or nfc. Basically the size of a grain of grain of rice. And thousands of Swedes took the plunge and many, since this story first published, many more thousands have taken the plunge. The idea is that the chips would speed up your in a user's daily life, make their lives more convenient, access their homes, office gyms. Just swipe it right on your door or keypad and you're right in there. Here is one of the individuals lining up to get one of the chip implants and just being able to get it poked right in the hands. Now when the program started the demand was off the charts. There were waiting lists. Companies could insert these things. They couldn't insert these things fast enough. And then shortly after it, it won high praise from the World Economic Forum.
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Natalie
Well, yeah, I mean if you want to track people and they let you exactly, that's on them.
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Clayton
So World Economic Forum's like hey, this is great. And if you read the article, the World Economic Forum piece on this, they specifically, they even point out that's no big deal. It's just like a simple, like a slight sting in when you get it. No big deal.
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Natalie
Imagine telling our youngest who hates shots. Yeah, you're just going to get this chip forever. It's only going to hurt for a
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Clayton
little bit and it will be able to track everything that you do. Yeah, yeah. Flash forward to 2026 and now these micro. And where are things at with this program? We wanted to check in on this program, see how it's being floated for digital IDs digital currency, how it's competing with the incredibly popular banked ID system. Bank ID system in Sweden it's very, very popular. It's almost at 100% usage. The bank ID system in Sweden, 100% up to 8.7 million users now across the country. It's basically their dominant digital ID system. So is there a marriage between implanting yourself with these chips and using the country's digital ID system? Forget cash, forget everything. It's all digital now and all they want to do is track you. Well today we're thrilled to have Maria Z joining us today to talk all about this from Z Media and who's been watching, of course she has very keen insights into watching how all of this tracking across these countries around Europe, through Australia, the United States are unfolding and watching this legislation that's been moving. Great to see you Maria. Welcome back to the show.
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Maria Z
Great you both again. Thank you so much for inviting me. These particular chips I will say from the Outset, I'm not that worried about the microchips and I'll explain why the uptake. Yes, there were a few thousand people that rushed to do it in the beginning, but I think that pretty much after 2018, that slowed down a lot. There was the initial rush of, you know, a few thousand that said, yeah, this is great and we're probably paid to do it, but it's not something that's widely popular at this stage. What I'm more concerned about, truthfully, is an admission from MIT that happened in November of 2025. So a publication from MIT News actually reads, quote, new therapeutic brain implants could defy the need for surgery. Now, I'll read you a couple of quotes from this article. It is extremely alarming. MIT researchers developed microscopic wireless bio electronics that could travel through the body's circulatory system and autonomously self implant in a target region of the brain where they could provide, quote, unquote, focused treatment. Because it's about treating Alzheimer's and things of this nature, right? Not covert operations, everyone. In a study on mice, the researchers show that after injection, after injection, these minuscule implants can identify and travel to a specific brain region without the need for human guidance. Once there, they can be wirelessly powered to provide electrical stimulation to the precise area. So a couple of things here. We're talking about self assembling nanotechnology that can form brain implants, that is one, done through injection, so vaccines, and two, does not not need any human intervention once it's been administered through the quote, unquote vaccine. Now, we know, Clayton, that this is happening through geoengineering. Smart dust has been happening for a very, very long time. And we know that they can administer various types of nanotechnology that can be self replicating, self programming through vaccines and other medicines, and also potentially through our food. I'm actually far more concerned about the COVID applications of this type of technology than I am about people going in and implanting themselves. I dare say there could be quite a few people walking around with chips already inside of them without knowing it's actually there.
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Natalie
Wait, what is smart Dust that you mentioned?
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Maria Z
Smart dust. They've been geoengineering for a very, very long time. As you both know, Smart dust is essentially programmable dust. This is something that is not detected through the human eye. People talk about how it forms structures even on their walls. I mean, there's a lot of anecdotal information about what smart dust has achieved, but basically, when you're talking about the various chemicals that they're spraying. And that also, by the way, includes graphene. Dane Wigginton has done independent testing of soil and air and things of this nature and found graphene immediately present after geoengineering has occurred. When you look at what they refer to when it comes to graphene, they say that it's essentially a miracle component that they have started using in medicine. And you'd recall Albert Burla talking about how, you know, in the future we're going to have these pills that people can take and they'll tell us whether they, the person's taking it, what it's doing inside of their bodies. That, of course, is achieved through graphene because it is highly conductive. It is able to send a message back to them. And it's no secret. This isn't a conspiracy theory. Albert Bur himself has spoken about their ability to do this. There's been a lot of talk back and forward as to whether they can achieve this through geoengineering or vaccines or things of this nature. Their literature absolutely says that it can. And these studies go back decades.
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Clayton
Yeah, here's just an example of some of the graphene oxide being manipulated using high different frequencies. So this is exactly what, you know, individuals like Dane Wigginton have been talking about, David Icke, the manipulation of graphene oxide that's in our bodies, these nanoparticles that can be manipulated and moved. So I think you're right. I think you're hitting on something because when you look at just the, the thousands of people that have like willingly put these microchips in their hands, that's a small percentage. But so many people are. Have this in their bodies because of, you know, geoengineering, because of what they're spraying in our skies and because of these Covid jabs.
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Colonel Daniel Davis
Yes.
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Maria Z
Let me give you some really shocking information. You may know about this. A lot of people don't, actually. So I spoke to Nick Holscher a little while ago, prominent epidemic epidemiologist, after I learned about what MIT had admitted here and asked him whether it was possible that they already covertly did this through the COVID injections. He said, definitely possible. There is some evidence to suggest that they did. But there is another very, very important puzzle piece here. And it comes to us from Bar alone. Bar Ilan University, rather, that's Bar I L A N University in Israel. And their chief scientist, Ido Bachelet, was actually presenting to. He was presenting a TED Talk all the way back in 2013. And he basically said at that Time we can implant. He said that we can implant hundreds of billions or 1 1,000 billion I think he said nano robots into a vaccine. He proudly held up a vaccine during that TED talk. I've done a whole expose on this. He then said in his presentation that people can, they can ensure that they don't, quote, unquote, lose control of the nano robots after they've been injected into people. He stated that the controller is connected to the Internet and I quote, like an Xbox. He then said that the controller actually links these nanobots to the network, that they have an IP address and that they can be accessed remotely. He bragged about how they can control these nanobots like with a joystick to release payloads into humans. This TED talk happened in 2013. Now here's the kicker. In 2015, Pfizer announced their partnership with IDO Bachelor of Bar Ilan University, who already had this tech. So my point is that while I of course am concerned about people willingly implanting themselves and I do believe free will plays a part in, in the control of the technocrats, I am very concerned about what covert operations and convert covert applications have on. I'm concerned about those impacts on the population. And you only need to look at something like Bill Gates. Patent 060606 yes, that's real. Everyone please go and look up Patent 060606 and you will see that the plan is to actually be able to mine cryptocurrency with your body's data. Well, how would they do that? They need some sort of sensors conductors inside of us feeding information back to the data centers through quantum technology. And by the way, Bill Gates is also developing the quantum dot micro needle patch. We can talk about that. Which is real time data being sent to the powers that be of everything that's going on inside of your body at any given time. And also of course your ability to, to bank, AKA mine cryptocurrency with your body's data which will tell the powers that be if you are being compliant or not.
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Natalie
I mean this is a transhumanist agenda. How far do you think that they will take it? I mean we see evidence of this every single day of the the desire to continuously break down the human elements of our lived experience, but only for us, not for the elites. And you know, can you play out how far they want to take it?
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Clayton
Yeah, it's always for safety.
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Maria Z
Yes, you only need to look to the government of Canada to see how far they want to take it. They publish something policy horizons. Well, Right, no, but, but they actually publish something. Policy Horizons published something called Biodigital Convergence. It's an official publication from the government of Canada and they give you some fictional scenarios in there, but it's absolutely where they want to take it. And they say that we're going to live in a future where you wake up in the morning and the AI that is connected to you through sensors inside your body, which of course are enabled through self assembling nanotechnology, which can happen covertly. That AI, you wake up, the AI will say, okay, you're missing this vitamin or this nutrient. And then it's gonna 3D print it from your counter and give you what you need based on what the AI has assessed that you need. They say that the UN actually, the, the, their, their publication Remaking the world towards an age of global enlightenment. It's the Boston Global Forum that's published it, but they're part of the un. They say that although we, we're not going to have a social credit system in like China, but you will only be rewarded with cryptocurrency if you do things that are, you know, acceptable inside the AI world society. So in other words, if you don't live the way we want you to, you will not have access to any currency and your own body will betray you by the use of patent 0606, of course.
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Clayton
Unbelievable. Well, thank you so much, Marie. We really appreciate it. And I, I'm, I guess I'm heartened in one way. It's a, you know, we're not getting. The government is not forcing people to get these images implants, but they're doing it in far more nefarious ways, which is spraying our skies with it so that they're able to manipulate us through 6G technology and otherwise. So they don't need us, they don't need us to go down to the clinic and get a microchip in our hand.
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Natalie
There's part of me that's also anxietized about having old technology. Like if you're gonna give me, you know, how fast technology evolves, like I don't want an iPhone5 inside. How are we gonna make sure.
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Clayton
Yeah, be like Natalie, she's got an iPhone 3GS in her hand.
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Natalie
Yeah, I mean, I mean, how are they going to make sure they continuously upgrade me? If I do become a transhumanist experiment,
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Maria Z
I will just end on this. I truly do believe, and I believe that the quote unquote elites believe that our free will actually does matter. And although they do the revelation of the method and they tell us what they're doing beforehand. And if we don't, you know, push back, then that's sort of our consent. I don't think that if you are a human being that is aware of this information, which is what, why it's so important that you're, that you're both covering this. If you're someone that's aware of this and internally your free will says I'm not participating. For them and their occult mad rituals, that actually means something. And so the more informed that we are, the better off we are and the more we can not consent to this madness.
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Natalie
Yeah.
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Clayton
Maria Z from Z Media, always great to see you. Thank you so much for your research on this and we'll be watching it closely. Thanks so much, Maria. Great, great to see you.
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Maria Z
Thank you both.
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Clayton
All right, coming up, we're going to be Talking about Area 51 and a series of bizarre earthquakes that unfolded right as President Trump was talking about disclosure and George Knapp now confirming separately who were some of the VIPs that were on site in, in Area 51 right before these earthquakes happened. Are we getting near disclosure and what are these earthquakes all about? We're gonna talk about that in a second. But first, scaling a business takes the right experience at the right time. Upwork helps growing teams quickly bring in specialized freelancers so you can move faster, take the business to the next level. We at Redacted use upwork. We've been using them for, I don't know, almost like 10 years. I feel like we use it constantly and that's how we found some of our best team members that work with us here on Redacted over the years and our other in the other companies that we have. Upwork is a one stop platform to find, hire and pay expert freelancers across the web and software development, data analytics, marketing, business operations and more. Upwork helps you grow your business by giving you fast access to specialized talent across 125 categories. It's free to sign up and posting a job is easy, so try it today. You can cut down on your operational hassle by handling things like contracts and payments all in one place. You can spend more time running your business. So visit Upwork.com right now and post your job for free. That is Upwork.com to connect with top talent to help your business grow. That's Upwork. That's u p w o r k.com upwork.com Nobody does it better than Regent Seven Seas Cruises. Enjoy all inclusive, unrivaled Luxury luxury with unlimited shore excursions, indulgent cuisine, personalized service and more aboard spacious all suite ships. Visit rssc.com to experience the unrivaled out
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Clayton
and USA all right, all right. Well, we have so many earthquakes. Excuse me. As I check the chat room here, let me just. I know we had some rumble issues today. Rumble's acting weird today, guys. Do you notice that? Rumble is if I can get my mouse cursed.
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Natalie
I feel like everything's a little buggy for me today. So. Yeah, there's a, there's a blip in the matrix as they say.
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Clayton
Yeah, something weird is going on. But anyway, hope the. Hope our rumblers are okay because. But anyway, just making sure you guys are good.
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Natalie
Oh, no, there's.
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Clayton
Yeah, I know. I can see you guys. Just drop us a chat here, get your questions in about this UFO story because we're going to pull that up here in a second. All right. Okay. Well, why have so many earthquakes been happening around Area 51 in such a short amount of time? A cluster of 17 earthquakes does have anything to do with President Trump's upcoming UFO disclosure?
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Maria Z
On the span of 24 hours, there have been 17 earthquakes near Area 51. It started with a 4.4 magnitude quake just two and a half miles underground. The area is normally not prone to earthquakes and this shallow and it's leading to theories of nuclear testing or even UFOs because it all happened after President Trump said this.
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Natalie
Do you have an update on the
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Maria Z
UFO files and what might be what
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Natalie
we're going to be seeing?
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Clayton
Well, I think we're going to be
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Colonel Daniel Davis
releasing as much as we can in the near future. They want to find out about the UFOs and anything having to do with
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Clayton
UFO or related material.
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Colonel Daniel Davis
And we're going to be releasing a lot of things from that we have and I think some of it's going to be very interesting.
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Clayton
Very interesting. Okay, what exactly is going to be said According to UFO researcher George Knapp, these earthquakes occurred right after DNI Tulsi Gabbard was on site at Area 51 Watch in Nevada. I'd been seeing these hints for a
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Colonel Daniel Davis
couple of days that the VIP visitor
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Clayton
was going to be out of Groom Lake.
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Colonel Daniel Davis
And apparently yesterday, I don't know if Representative Burleson was with this vip, but
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Clayton
the VIP in question is supposedly Tulsi Gabbard, who made a visit, flew into Nellis, then took a little Janet plane, I think, and went to Groom Lake, and then came back and left Las Vegas yesterday.
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Chris Lato
And I don't know.
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Clayton
So Was it Area 51? Is it S4? What exactly is going on here? And are we about. The bigger question, regardless of these earthquakes, though, is are we about to. To experience disclosure? Are we getting very close to that? Chris Lato is the host of the Leto Files, joins us now from Portugal to talk about this. Well, Portugal is used to having some massive earthquakes over the years. Famously, one of the greatest natural disasters in world history happened in Lisbon, Portugal, in the 1700s. Absolutely devastating. So, you know, on the surface, it seems, Chris, like, you know, this is just a random, random occurrence, 17 earthquakes happening all over this location. But when you dig a little bit deeper into this, as Dr. Steven Greer has and others who've pointed out that there are nuclear deterrent mechanisms that are set about all through these locations that can be triggered at a moment's notice in order to basically collapse these structures and to hide these structures. So. So anyway, just on the nuclear piece of this and the earthquake piece of this, what do you make of this?
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Chris Lato
Yeah, I think as far as the nuclear angle, you know, we could tell right away when North Korea detonated a nuke underground, you know, when they did a nuclear test. So you can tell by the, just the P waves and the S waves, you have the compression waves. I'm not a seismologist, but they can easily tell. We could tell right away that it was a nuclear test because you have so much energy coming from the same single point, you know, and that's going to be your compression waves. And then you have the S waves, which are, you know, your, your shear waves. And so we would know right away if this was a nuclear test, like, without a doubt, all around the world. They would have, they would have known, hey, there's a nuke test going on under Nevada. So I, you know, I can pretty confidently say that I don't think it's a nuclear test. But you could say, like Avi Loeb argued that if it is mundane Then it's probably military testing. And the military has detonated a lot of weapons underground, you know, not necessarily that much under Nevada, but they have detonated, you know, 4700 tons of TNT up in White Sands, I believe that was in 1984, to do a test. So that is a lot, you know, that's a lot of explosives. So you could, theoretically that would be enough energy to cause a 4.4 magnitude quake. They said it was 2.2 kilotons of explosives is what you would need. So theoretically it could be military testing. But then the epicenter is quite shallow for an earthquake. It was four kilometers. So that's two and a half miles under the ground, which is, you know, rare for that area. That's why it is kind of interesting. But even then, 2.5 miles down is still really deep. You know, the deepest test that we know about was in Russia, and that was 9,000ft. So that was a mile and a half down. So we do detonate explosives pretty far down, but 2.5 miles is still really far. So, you know, I think the experts are leaning towards this is just a natural, you know, natural occurrence of these earthquakes. But what is unique is that it is in this test range. So this is a very interesting test range. Like you mentioned there, Area 51 is in there. They mentioned Groom Lake. So you have a lot of very interesting test sites. You know, we've detonated it's over 900 nuclear weapons in that area. So you have, you know, this is where the crown jewels of the US militaries live. Right. It's right in the center of the desert. It's very hard to get to. You know, no one's out there. It's easy to monitor. Right. There's no trees, so you can easily see who's coming. So there, you know, there's probably hundreds, at least maybe thousands of miles of tunnels underneath Nevada. So it is a very interesting site. But in this case, you know, really the only thing I could even consider, and I say this very hesitantly or with, you know, with the warning, speculation, conspiracy speculation, is what could cause earthquakes if it's not weapons? And the only thing that came to mind was Eric Hecker, if you remember him.
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Clayton
I'm so glad, yeah, I'm so glad you brought. That literally was my next question. You must be mind reading me, but go ahead. I don't mean to interrupt. Eric Hecker, who was stationed at the South Pole station in Antarctica at the Ice Ice Cube Neutrino detector, which was being used in large part, and one of the Massive pieces of this weaponry was that it could cause and create earthquakes.
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Chris Lato
That was his main claim. And that's, that's what I, what I thought of, you know, what, what could this be if, if it was causing earthquakes. And Hecker said that they tested the IceCube neutrino. You could actually turn it to transmit. That's what he's saying. The scientists all say this is false. It's obviously incorrect conspiracy theory. The scientists argument is that these are receive only detectors. The IceCube neutrino, it's basically kilometer by kilometer diodes. There's over 5,000 of these receivers in the ice. It's very interesting. And it picks up Cherkov radiation. That's really the radiation that emits when a neutrino hits a water particle stuck in the ice. In itself, it's just an amazing scientific experiment. Eric Hecker was the fire chief there and he said he stumbled upon a very high power energy cables. Essentially his argument is that they were turning these receiver diodes onto transmit and it was some sort of directed energy weapon. And so he said in 20, 2010, 2011 when he was there, this, this you know, weapon, as he argues, caused the Christchurch earthquake.
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Clayton
Right.
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Chris Lato
And so that's the only thing I can think of. And I, I say this again, warning, you know, conspiracy speculation. The physicists say it's not possible. The only thing I could consider is that could you possibly use some sort of resonance, you know, low energy waves to vibrate at the exact perfect frequency to cause, you know, the earthquake or the water that's located at the fault to actually vibrate to cause some sort of quake. But again, I think this is very speculative. So that's all I consider.
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Clayton
Yeah, I mean you're right about that piece of it. But to me the bigger point now is about disclosure and about these VIPs who've been making these trips. And we, we, this is not a conspiracy at all. We do know that Congressman Burleson and Burchett. And now according to George Knapp's reporting, DNI Tulsi Gabbard at Area 51 going to these secret sites and then President Trump coming out and making his message of course about the coming disclosures. So what do you make about these VIPs, members of Congress going to these different locations ahead of what the President is set to announce?
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Chris Lato
I think first off, it's just amazing to see the President saying the word UFO in the Oval Office, you know, and it's not a joke and he's serious about it. I think that's just amazing to watch. And he's asked his Pentagon, every time I see it's amazing.
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Clayton
And he's asked the Pentagon, the Secretary of War to release these files on it. So. And he said it publicly and the Secretary of War has said it. So this is not like 20 years ago on TV where they'd make fun of you for bringing it up.
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Chris Lato
No. So just. That is amazing to see. You know, I've only been investigating for almost six years now, so I can't imagine people have been looking into this topic for decades, you know, like George Knapp, etc. But yeah, I can't imagine even seeing a president say that, say the word UFO in the Oval Office without making a joke. You know, he's saying it seriously and he directed as many organizations as he could, it seems like, to try and release their files. But the question is, is anything going to change? That's the big question. And yes, he's said a lot of things, but we've seen no documents. Nothing has changed. And a lot of the arguments is that they're not going to let the information go up. There's a need to know. And so you're not going to tell the President. If they are actually holding this sort of material, you're not going to tell him. And it's so he can actually deny it. Right. So he has legitimate deniability. So the CIA has referenced this many times in the past that they have legitimate deniability. So I think is it actually going to change anything? Well, what's definitely changed is the whole topic in general, that it's now considered a serious topic. It's not just laughed about, it's not joked about. And I think that for sure has changed. Will we get disclosure? I would love that to happen. Do I think that's going to happen? Probably not. Just look at the past 80 years. Look at what happened with the Kennedy assassination. We pretty much know the CIA did it. They were at least complicit something happened, you know, or elements inside the CAA were at least partly involved. And yet nothing's come out. We still don't know. I think there's just. It's not in any interest of the US Government to release this information. There's no benefit, there's no advantage. So I think I'm very excited, optimistic, and I think it's amazing positive news when people like Burleson are so motivated. Moskovitz, Burchett, they're still being elected, they're still talking about this stuff. And yes, I would love for them to go to these secret sites. Very excited to hear what they have to report.
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Clayton
Yeah, we're hoping to get Congressman Burleson or Burchett on the show here over the next couple of days to kind of deep dive what their latest revelations, what they've seen, what they're allowed to say publicly. So that's something that we are working on wholeheartedly here. But I agree with you. I mean, given the fact that we haven't received the Epstein files in the way that we had hoped, we haven't received the JFK files in the way that we were promised, there's still all of this holding back of documents, double the volume. They're giving us 50% of the stuff. So what will President Trump be allowed to say? I mean, famously, Bill Clinton was not on a need to know basis about Area 51. So the President of the United States is not on a need to know basis. Members of Congress are not. Famously, Senator Patrick Leahy, remember, I mean, of Vermont, he was yelled at by a general, don't ever ask those questions again. So he, even as a sitting senator, are not allowed to get these answers, Chris.
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Chris Lato
Yeah, exactly. Because as soon as you tell them, the information is compromised. Yeah, it's as simple as that. I mean, legitimate deniability. You're not going to tell, you're not going to tell the President your deepest, darkest military technological secrets. You know, they're not going to tell him how our nuclear weapons work, you know, or how our, our best stealth technology works or even technology that we don't even know about. You're not going to tell the President because then it's a risk. Why does he need to know? He doesn't need to know that to actually enact his duties as the President. So I think they do have legitimate deniability. The CIA has said this in the past. It's in their operating procedures. So I don't think there's any advantage for them to release this information. There's no advantage for the President to know this information. And these people aren't stupid. Like, you're not going to just write this sort of information on electronic documents and, you know, store them in a file cabinet. Right. You know, that's just not how this works. I mean, think about our nuclear facilities. Right? Did you know inside of a nuclear facility there is nothing digital? You cannot use a single digital piece of equipment inside of a nuke reactor. It all has to be analog. Yeah, there's, there's a whole industry based around making these complicated analog only sensors Simply because a digital system inside of a nuclear reactor can be compromised.
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Clayton
Yeah.
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Chris Lato
Right. So there's only analog sensors inside of nuke reactors. So as we've been told by David Grush, other whistleblowers is that this technology, this information is kept right next to the nuclear secrets. Right. They think it's in the same. In the same document protection as your nuclear weapons secrets. And so they're going to treat it just the same. You know, they're not dumb. They're not going to. They're not going to use a digital sensor and a nuke reactor. And they're not just going to put all the documents labeled UFO in some file cabinet and then give it to the President. You know, it's just. It's not going to happen.
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Clayton
Chris Lato is a host of the Leto Files. Thank you so much. I mean, I'm hopeful. I'm hopeful for disclosure, but I tend to, you know, I'm usually a glass half full kind of person, but I tend to. To agree with you on this, that they're going to give us just like the Epstein files, just like jfk, they're just going to give us little pieces of it, just enough to wet our whistle, so to speak. You know, will we see med beds? I don't know. Will we see the time machine technology, the jump rooms allowing people to travel back to the 1940s and 2050 and all of that? I don't know. Chris, great to see you. Thank you so much for this. I appreciate you joining us late into the evening over there in Portugal. Great to see you.
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Chris Lato
Yeah, thank you, Clayton. Always great to be on your show.
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Clayton
Appreciate it, Chris. Thanks so much. All right. What does the chat room think about that? Are we going to see it? Beans and rice for the masses is enough, Rodmark says. I guess we'll.
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Natalie
Yeah, yeah.
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Clayton
They just give us little drips and drabs like they did with the Epstein files. You know, I don't know. Someone was saying they think sneaky foxes. I wouldn't be surprised if we have an earthquake in the San Andreas fault sometimes soon. I mean, isn't that way overdue? Yes, it is, like way overdue.
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Natalie
Yeah.
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Clayton
Trillions of cells and you'll need one failing. Thank you for that. All right, we'll check in on these here in a moment.
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Natalie
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Natalie
N. Well, the evangelical Christians in the U s that support Israel mostly do so from the theology that came about in the late 1800s from what's called the Scofield Bible. Now evangelicals know what the Scofield Bible is, but a lot of us don't. It's basically like a Cliff's Notes for the Bible that Christian Zionists use as their reason behind supporting Israel. Even when it becomes readily apparent that Israel continues to murder innocent people and attack Christians, they hold tight because of this one seminal text. What most people don't know though, is that text, the Scofield Bible, was funded by Wall street elites and supported by very early Zionists long before the state of Israel ever existed. Now, they may not know also, who is Cyrus Scofield? So I'm going to give you a brief biography of him. He was by evangelical standards a scoundrel. He was a philander who abandoned his wife and two daughters. He was was sued many times and in fact even served prison time for fraud. He was ousted as district attorney in disgrace. He lied about his military record having been a Confederate soldier. So how did this person become a biblical leader that led so many faithful Christians towards supporting the government of Israel and all of its subsequent wars? Well, let's take a look, Cyrus. So Scofield was not a religious man. From his upbringing, he was raised in Michigan. His mother died very young. He was raised partly by his sisters and he followed one of his sisters to Tennessee. There he briefly and volunteered to join the Confederate army. But he didn't really like it. So he wrote a letter and said, you know, I'm not really even a Southerner, I'm from Michigan. I want out of the army. And his request was approved. During his time in Confederacy, many of his fellow soldiers converted into to Christianity. He was not one of them. Later in life, when he was a well known Bible teacher, stories would circulate that he had received what was called the Cross of Honor for bravery in the army. The problem is the Confederacy never gave out any decorations for bravery. So he kind of let those war hero stories circulate and he never corrected them, even though he did know about them. Now he followed his sister later to St. Louis where he would marry a Catholic woman of French descent named Leontine. Her family was very well connected and he then married her. He did not convert to Catholicism. Later he complained about her Catholicism as one of the sort of sources of strife. In their marriage they would have two daughters and a son. The son only lived a few months. The daughters lived well into their adult years. Now her connections helped him get elected to Kansas legislature despite never really having much formal schooling. And later he became the District attorney for the district of Kansas in 1873. Now, around this time, Scofield and His sister as well begin to be sued many times for fraud. He was accused of forgery, financial fraud, giving and taking loans that he did not pay back. He had many issues tied to other people. People's money in one case led to formal charges and conviction. Others were dropped or just left unresolved somehow. Eventually, he would resign as the district attorney due to allegations of blackmail. He also did serve time in prison for forgery. He would eventually be pardoned for this when he became a biblical leader. Now, it was around this time that he has his Christian conversion. Scofield said it had to do with this businessman named Thomas McPeters in St. Louis. Both men said, oh, we were just having a conversation in my law office, despite the fact that he never even had a law office. But, you know, the stories sort of get passed around. It was this funny story. Ahaha. And almost immediately, his life takes a sharp turn from disgraced lawyer and convicted forger to Bible student and then superstar preacher. He has this rise as a Christian convert, and it was unusually fast. From there, he moves to Dallas on the invitation of a person named A.J. gordon. And more directly, he's connected through Dwight L. Moody, the revival movement, you may know about that. He leaves his wife and two daughters behind, and he leaves them for good, never to come back and parent them. His wife has to to work two jobs to support these two girls. They go on to be upstanding citizens in their hometown of Atchison, Kansas. And in fact, when the Joseph Canfield book about Schofield was published about 20 years ago, the local library there refused to carry it. And I think this is such an interesting note because the author of the Canfield book offers to send the local library a copy of this book. And this is what the library sends back. As you recall, Mr. Scofield left Mrs. Schofield with small children and no money. Not too responsible of a person. I don't think we need his biography. Many Atchison citizens remember what a rascal he was. So his reputation there was so bad that the local library didn't even want a copy of the book. There in Dallas, he marries his second wife. Her name's Hetty. Records show that the divorce from Leontine was not completed by the time he married his second wife, raising serious questions about his faithfulness to his first wife. And again, he's an evangelical founder. He is who evangelicals look to for their the theology. Nevertheless, he becomes a rising star. Now maybe he does reform his personality from thief, fraud, deadbeat dad, philandering husband. A lot of people do that's between him and God. It's not for me to say, but it is all get given all of these promotions of the church. He never Prof. Properly atoned or made explanation for these crimes and sort of personal failings. Later in life, his daughter will ask him for money. When he's an internationally known author. He still does not help her. But back to the story now. From Dallas, he's drawn into a growing network of influential evangelical leaders and invited to the Niagara Bible Conference. This is a gathering that would prove pivotal for Scofield, but also for the future of American Christianity. Most people understand that in Niagara and in general the Northeast, there was a new system of theology being born in American Christianity. It emphasized a literal interpretation of prophecy, a coming rapture, a descendant distinct future role for national for the nations of Israel as pivotal in God's plans. These were not fringe meetings. These were well attended and very well funded. It was here in 1878 that church leaders adopted a series of revelations about their belief in Israel. Specifically, look at Article 14 saying, we believe that the world will not be converted during the present dispensary sensation. So these are like eras basically, but it's fast ripening for judgment. While there will be a fearful apostasy in the professing Christian body, and hence the Lord Jesus will come in person to introduce the millennial age when Israel shall be restored to their own land. So the theology taking shape here is basically this history is divided into stages. The Bible can be divided into these stages too. And the one we're in now doesn't actually end in revival, it ends in decline. The church weakens, the world is ending, and then God intervenes. Tied to this idea is that Israel has a pivotal future role. The story is not complete until Jews return to their homeland. And look at where this is landing. There is no Israel at the time. We're talking late 1800s. That won't exist. Israel won't exist until 1948. But the expectation is there. They're setting the stage more than 50 years before the country comes into existence. Now, this sounds extreme, but you have to think about the United States at this time, late late 1800s, just coming out of the civil war, economy's terrible social upheaval. Everything feels unstable. So when someone says, hey, this isn't chaos cross. This is the biblical timeline, people lean into that. It validates their experience. Other incidentally, in End of Days, religions are born at this time too. Jehovah's Witnesses, Seventh Day Adventist, Christadelphians. Some refer to this as the doom boom. This idea that everyone's looking around and they're like, man, the world is so screwed up, but the Bible says so. So we feel better. There's this sense of everything breaking down and that history is going to get worse before it gets better. You can see why that appeals to people right now. Schofield will stay in the Northeast for some time as a preacher, and then mysteriously, he becomes a member of the Lottos Club. The Lottos Club is an elite New York City gentleman's club with members who are writers, financiers, Wall street power brokers. Now, on his stated salary, he should not be able to afford this. But he never explains how he is a member of this elite society or how he pays for it, but he remains a member until his dying day. This is not a natural landing spot for a pious and humble preacher. Famous members included Mark Twain, Andrew Carnegie, JP Morgan, and Samuel Untemeyer. Untimeyer was a prominent, prominent voice in Zionist activism. He advocated for establishment of a Jewish homeland in what was then Palestine. And he used his influence and international influence and, and money to push towards that cause. It was through the Lotus Club that he then that Scofield gets the idea to write a Companion Bible, a CliffsNotes like Bible, in order to push through this dispensational theology with Israel at the center of the rapture. He's then introduced to real estate tycoons who are eager to fund the Bible. And then he's introduced to the Oxford Press, which will then publish it. So I just wonder, do evangelicals know this? That the reference Bible that they used was born and funded by New York City elite social clubs? Do you think they know this? I'm just curious. Now Scofield takes the money, he begins working on the Bible. He. He travels throughout England. He also says he goes to the Holy Land, but his travel dates don't end up he was sick. That has not been verified. It takes seven years. When it finally comes out, it leans heavily into what he frames as a distinct Jewish track in the scripture. A sharp separation between Israel and the church, with Israel taking future stage in the prophecy. And here's the tension. Scofield was not trained in Judaism. He was not a historian of the ancient world. You know, he didn't speak any ancient languages. So how he came up with this is anyone's guess. Once the Scofield Reference Bible is published, though, it spreads like wildfire. Wildfire goes through multiple printings, lands in seminaries across the country, and pastors start preaching from it. Pretty quickly. Scofield isn't just a name, he's an authority. He is famous all throughout Christian society. He will die a wealthy man, having never passed any of that down to his first wife and oldest daughter. And the Scofield Bible is still used in churches and Bible colleges and study groups today. In many cases, the noted notes are treated almost as sort of a built in guide passed down alongside the biblical text itself. Now, before Scofield's reference Bible, this idea that Israel would play this central role in end of times prophecy was not a dominant view in Christianity. It did exist, but it was on the margins. It was still pretty nationed in England. It was not widely taught. The Scofield Bible, at least in American Christianity, really changed that. And it was not a grassroots movement. It was systemized, funded and published at scale. It was a niche theological idea that was packaged and printed directly into the pages of scripture and distributed to millions, funded by Wall street real estate tycoons and Zionist elites. So I just think we need to know that history when we consider the birth of Christian in Zionism. Let me think, let me know what you think of that.
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Clayton
Fascinating. And I didn't realize that there was something called the doom boom in the late 1800s.
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Natalie
Yes.
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Clayton
So you have Jehovah's Witnesses.
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Natalie
Jehovah's Witnesses, Seventh Day Adventists.
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Clayton
Yeah. I mean, you think of like right after, you know, during Reconstruction. Right. So we're just coming out of the Civil War, you know, trying to figure out how to reincorporate the South. You know, the death of Abraham Lincoln, of course, the assassination of that went through an impeachment proceedings. Of course, the United States, the first impeachment. So it was really a dark time before the Gilded Age, before like industrial boom and everything. And so people were probably grasping at anything.
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Natalie
Well, understandably so. Understandably so, absolutely. Yeah. And specifically why it came. I've spoken to Jay Dyer about this before. Why did it come out of this like Niagara area specifically? I don't really have an answer for it, but a lot of these doom religions were born in the Northeast. Mormonism, Job's Witnesses, all of them in this region.
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Clayton
Would you say that Mormonism is a doom? Like, I mean, it was born out of what, Upstate Albany, Upstate New York. Right. So the, the golden tablets that are found in the hillside.
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Natalie
I don't know enough about.
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Clayton
No, but that was, that was in the 16 doomed, was it 1840?
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Natalie
1830?
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Clayton
Yeah.
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Natalie
How'd you know that? Impressive.
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Clayton
Well, because, yeah, I studied Mormonism and certainly when you like what's his name who wrote Into Thin Air? He's got a great book about the cultism about Colorado City and others. What is his name? The author of Into Thin Air? He wrote a great book specifically about Mormon fundamentalism that I read a number of years ago. Does anyone know that name?
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Natalie
I don't.
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Clayton
Anybody in our chat room?
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Chris Lato
David.
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Natalie
Anybody but you can make the. Continue making your point?
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Clayton
Well, no, I just didn't think it was. I was wondering if it was a doom.
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Guest/Caller
John Krakauer.
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Clayton
John Krakauer. John Kra. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Forget the name of the book, but yeah.
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Natalie
Okay, so what is called Into Thin Air?
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Clayton
No, no, that's about Mount Everest. The other one, though, his other. His, like, second book that he wrote was about Mormon fundamentalism and the cults and the murders that took place, I think, in Colorado City and things like that.
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Natalie
Right.
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Clayton
And LDS broke away from the Mormon Church and they really view that as the more radical piece of.
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Natalie
Well, the question that I'm asking here, which I don't. I haven't actually asked it, but I'll. I'll ask it. Zionists and Wall street elites funded the Scofield Bible. They got him into this elite social club that he should not have been able to afford. Was, was this always their end game to co opt sincere Christian believers in order to support this secular state of Israel? And to what end? It had to be right? You have to see this as purposeful. What were they aiming for? Is this. Is this the eventuality that they were hoping for? And, you know, and people who may still believe in Christian Zionism who use the Scofield text, is this. Did you know that this is the. The. It's a scam epidemiology that this is the. This is the founding of the book that you. That you have, you know, held so faithful to.
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Clayton
Well, we've heard, we've talked and it's. I know it's anecdotal that there's been a number of individuals we've spoken to who've moved away from that, who grew up certainly in Texas. Like, Texas. This.
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Chris Lato
Right.
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Clayton
As you pointed out, this Scofield Bible is something that's very much used. Right?
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Natalie
Still. Yes.
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Clayton
Yeah. And so there's been a lot of people who grew up in that Texas Scofield Bible environment that were sort of lied to about this. And, you know.
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Natalie
Well, I think most of them have not bothered to look into his background. And again, maybe he did have this sincere come to Jesus moment and he didn't want to you know, be this thief and forger and scoundrel and liar. That's possible. People do have real revelations in their life. But what would prompt him to never go back and take care of his two daughters and his wife? What would prompt him to allow these lies about his military record? There's also a really weird story about him in the Titanic. When the Titanic went down. He says that he was in England and preached to some of the fan. It's, It's a strange. I don't remember the details, but, like, why you know and do these people know this? And I think that if you're someone who really felt strongly about the Evangelical Bible and the Scofield Bible and you know, this, you might think, huh, maybe, maybe I should look twice at this, at where it came from, and also it's allowing me to support the killing of civilians in the Middle east. Huh? Maybe, maybe I don't want to do that anymore.
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Maria Z
That's.
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Natalie
I'm. I'm asking questions. So I'm just offering you questions.
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Clayton
That's a great point. It's great. I mean, if you could think like a modern day equivalent to Scofield had written a Bible and you'd be like, could you imagine, like, I'm trying to think who would be a modern day equivalent of Scofield? And then can you imagine Dennis Prager or. No. Yeah, yeah.
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Chris Lato
Or Joseph Smith.
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Natalie
No, somebody who, like right now, who has a history of being just like a shady character and then like Eric Hubbard?
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Clayton
I mean, is that Eric Swalwell? I'm talking about in 2026.
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Natalie
Ken Starr? I don't know, like someone who doesn't have Ted Cruz? I don't know. I can't, I can't think of it. But it is sort of the, the equivalent of a, of an unsavory character who then, you know, is purposely used. Used to. And, you know, why this guy, why did they have to use this guy to, you know, because you didn't have the Internet in the late 1800s. You didn't know.
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Clayton
Someone said, natalie, why don't you read the scriptures? As if. I don't think that this person's defending the Schofield Bible. I sure as hell hope not. But she's read the scriptures. I have, like, deeply, deeply read the scriptures. Okay, so. But now here, by the way, is John Krakauer. This is the name. This is the book I was thinking of under the Banner of Heaven, about the murders at the. In the hands of the Mormon fundamentalists out in, like, Colorado City. It's a fascinating one.
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Natalie
Question says, who printed the Scofield Bible? Oxford. The Oxford University Press. Yeah. And again, look, who funded that. Yeah, go ahead.
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Guest/Caller
Well, I know it's dangerous grounds. I typically don't really like to get involved in religious conversation, but. But, like, I think it's. It's indicative. And I'm not. I'm not commenting on that person's religious belief or, you know, like the value of their faith, but I think that comment is part of the problem. If you're pointing out that what you're being taught and how you're being taught the Bible could be misinterpreted through this Scofield text, the answer to that is not. We'll just read the scripture because you're. What you're talking about is what's behind it.
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Natalie
Yeah.
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Guest/Caller
Like, nobody's reading the scripture. The majority of Christians are having it read to them. I mean, they're reading it, but there's being interpreted through another lens. They need somebody to interpret it like a preacher, like a pastor, or in this case, like this Scofield Bible. And if that's what you use, I mean, that's the whole point of what's being said here. It's not just read the scripture. It's like, how are you reading? How are you interpreting the scripture you're reading?
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Natalie
Right. And if the scripture itself does not point to you towards supporting the government of Israel in order to bring about something, then I would suggest you don't need the reference Bible. Right. So someone has perverted the Bible in order to get you to a political end.
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Clayton
You could have done literally an entire segment about King James. Right. I mean, you could have said, hey. I mean, he was quite a scoundrel as well. I mean, he liked men. He spent a lot of darn money. You could say, hey, to Philip's point, know what you're reading, know the context of the Bible that you're reading, or understand the author behind the text or the interpretation of those texts.
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Natalie
Yeah.
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Clayton
Like, if you just pick up a book and you don't understand and you don't look in the front page. My professor in college taught me this, but he said, always open the front page and see when this book was written. Oh, it was written in 1981. Like, understand the context of that book, when it was written, by whom it was written, the printing press, Oxford that wrote it, the politicians that were involved in getting it produced, all of that. Right.
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Natalie
Yeah, exactly. I didn't know that about King James, that he liked men.
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Clayton
Yeah, arguably. And also he was. There was a lot of questions about his, like, his counsel, his. What do you call it? His court, the King's court. Okay, so, hey, you know, maybe.
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Natalie
Maybe that's our next segment.
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Maria Z
This.
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Clayton
I don't know everything there is to know about King James. All I'm just saying is, as people were pointing out in the chat earlier, King James was a scoundrel. So you could also, you know, you need to understand some things about.
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Natalie
We will look into it. Let us know what to read and we will. We will do that. Yeah. And, you know, I think that it's. It's interesting that Christian Zionism, the same support for Christian Zionism inside the United States is collapsing precipitously. You know, I don't think it's because people have then done their research on, on the history of, of Christian Zionism, but they really should. And this is a great place to start. Maybe it's just because it's unconscionable to ask Christians to watch a government slaughter civilians specifically and civilians of their own religion and others and, you know, use their religious beliefs in order to continue to support it. That's. That's my feeling on the matter. But let me know what you think.
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Clayton
Yeah, let us know. Let us know your thoughts on all of this. Yeah, a lot of people saying thank you for this. It was a great, great historical lesson. Yeah. So thank you, guys.
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Natalie
Yeah.
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Clayton
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Guest/Caller
Does the Navy have tugboats and dinghies?
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Clayton
I have a tugboat and a Dinghy. Hey, Alyssa. Ali. What did Ali say here? Ali. Ali. Lisa. Lunatic. Can you put it. Oh, shoot. Disappeared.
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Natalie
It was a comment telling Clayton he looked younger.
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Clayton
Oh, no, it's something about my gray hair. But I clicked on it. Didn't come up on the screen.
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Natalie
It's like, compliment. Let's put that on.
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Clayton
No, I thought it said, did you get gray hairs? I couldn't see it. I was trying to read it from afar.
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Natalie
No, I think it said, you have less gray hair. It's because he.
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Clayton
Oh, whenever I get a haircut, it's weird. Yeah, I got a haircut on Friday or whatever and it always, like, makes my hair look grayer or less gray. I don't know. There's the same amount of gray.
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Guest/Caller
Do they brush any kind of brownish colored powder in there when they're cutting your hair or.
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Clayton
No, no, no, no. I have no. No dyes. No dyes going on this body at all.
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Natalie
We have no hair dye in this house.
- [87:54]
Clayton
Nope. The only dyes I've got is just my tramp stamp. That's the only thing I have got.
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Natalie
I have tattooed eyeliner.
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Clayton
My butterfly.
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Natalie
That's what we're doing.
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Clayton
Tramp stamp. Okay, that's not a butterfly. It's a dragon, but kind of looks like a butterfly, so I can see where you made that mistake.
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Natalie
All right. I'm so hardcore with my tattooed eyeliner.
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Clayton
We had a neighbor once that had a tramp stamp. Kind of tells you everything you need to know. All right, that's going to do it for our show today. Thank you guys so much for joining us. We'll be back here tomorrow at 4:00pm Eastern Time. Have a great night, everyone.