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Trump Secures HISTORIC Gaza Peace Deal... WILL IT HOLD? & What is Lockheed Hiding at Skunkworks?
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Happy Thursday, everyone. Welcome into Redacted. I'm Clayton Morris.
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I'm Natalie Morris.
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Well, we could have peace in the Middle east if this holds. What will all of this look like? President Trump's historic peace agreement, possibly between Hamas and the Israelis. When Trump was tweeting about it, he seemed pretty. I guess the word is ebullient, right? Like, excited about it.
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Sure. Effusive.
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Effusive. Netanyahu's tweets, not so excited. So will this thing hold? It seems to be bombings that were happening right up until the last possible moment. Like, oh, we're gonna have a peace agreement. Let me bomb some more people right before the peace agreement takes hold. So we will unpack all of that today.
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Plus, some new bombshell revelations about the mainstream media and how they train young journalists to be pro Israel. You're not supposed to do that. I don't know how any journalist out of journalism school would do this, but these are journalists, mainstream journalists from cnn, the New York Times, Bloomberg. Yeah, they're doing this. You know, you're not supposed to except so much as a stick of gum if you are a journalist from other sources without full disclosure. So it's amazing that this happens, but it happens. And we're going to talk about how Van Jones is one of them, even though he called out propaganda. It's rich. Rich.
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Well, now Harest is reporting that the hostages will be released within the next day or so. They're saying 72 hours. We don't know from exactly when, and that the IDF will begin withdrawing in the next 24 hours. Hopefully they have a map of where they will withdraw because as of Wednesday they said we don't know actually where to withdraw from. All we have is social media posts from President Trump, which would kind of be comical because they're like, we don't know what's going on. We just check Our social media feed. No official like instructions, no envoy like Commander Steve Witcoff. Where do we go? Okay, well, they just look at this map, right? Do you see the map from President Trump's tweet from last week when he had initially announced this plan? The blue line is where the IDF is now. The yellow line is the first withdrawal line. The red line is where they say that the IDF will be pushed back later. Now let's. If you look at the third line, it says the buffer zone. Now, we've told you many, many times about how Israel's occupation of Gaza after October 7th started by them creating that buffer. What was there before was factories, agricultural farms, other types of food facilities. And they destroyed it systematically, one by one, in order that the Palestinians could no longer feed themselves so that their assault would be successful once they started to move inward. So what is there now is where the Israelis will be used to be. Farm, food, any kind of. Any systems that they could use to actually support their country or, or the. What would we call it, their goal of a country. And so Israel intends to stay there, which means there should not be any kind of sustainable Palestinian state there unless they can rebuild their food and factory there, olive trees and whatnot. Again, I refer you to the report from Breaking the Silence, which is a group of former IDF soldiers who said from the horse's mouth what they've done. So if Israel is. President Trump said Israel's not going to occupy Gaza. But in that map, if we can refer to it again, that third line is where they intend to stay along the borderlands, which they created intentionally early in the conflict. And so that's not. That's not not occupying Gaza. Do you see what I'm saying here? I mean, take a look at this, this peripheral line. So again, also a few other things we don't know, that will the Palestinian prisoners be released? They are just as much hostages as the Israelis who are being held by Hamas. What happens to them? The number that we've been given does not include the roughly 4,000 Palestinians already in custody prior to October 7 due to Israel's illegal practice of administrative detention. Meaning their well being remains a question mark, if they're even still alive. The Jerusalem Post is, is reporting that Hamas has given a list of who they want back. But the world doesn't care about them. They only care about the Israeli hostages. We've talked about that many times. So will this peace deal hold? We're gonna ask Colonel MacGregor, who is one of the most prescient voices on this. And he usually is right when it comes to these types of things. So thank you for coming back to redacted, sir.
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It's, it's always.
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All right, let me read to you. Greatest. Sorry, sorry. No, we had a little bit of delay. Let me read. So President Trump seems pretty jubilant about this tweeting. This is a great day for everyone. Peacemakers need to be blessed. Netanyahu posts this a great day for Israel. Tomorrow I will convene the government to approve the agreement and bring all of our dear hostages home, which, as we've reported on this show before, he hasn't seemed to really care about the hostages. And the families that are in Israel who've been protesting him have been echoing those sentiments. He says, I think the heroic soldiers of the IDF and all the security forces, thanks to those who courage and sacrifice, we have reached this day. I thank from the depths of my heart, President Trump, his team, for their mobilization, for the sacred mission of releasing our hostages with the help of the Almighty. Together, we will continue to achieve our goals and expand peace with our neighbors. So achieve all of our goals. What are, what are the goals?
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The goals for the Israelis is ultimately the complete destruction of the Palestinian people, either in Gaza or on the West Bank. I don't think that goal has changed at all. I think what we're seeing right now is an agreement that will be initially approved and celebrated until all the hostages are delivered. And then I think the Israelis will find some reason to back out of it and we'll be back to where we were. That's my best and most optimistic forecast.
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Well, can we refer to the map again? This is the map that President Trump proposed last week, which is initial withdrawal to the yellow line, then the red line, and then the peripheral has permanent Israeli IDF presence in Gaza. Unless I'm reading this wrong. So him saying Israel will not occupy Gaza except they will secure the border. What do you make of that? And am I reading this wrong?
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No. And I think this is to ensure that there is no Palestinian state. Remember, implicit in all of this is now a two state solution. I've never believed that such a thing was really possible. I think these two are in a death grip and a death fight to the death. So I see this as temporary. I think President Trump has really pushed hard and I give the president credit for getting this far, but I think it's not going to work. So, you know, whatever happens, it's going to happen after he makes his speech to the Knesset and leaves Israel down the line. It will fall apart. There is no interest on the part of Mr. Netanyahu or his coalition, or for that matter, most Israelis to sign on for this thing. They will have lost the war for all intents and purposes, if they do.
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Netanyahu, of course, we, as we recounted yesterday on the show, prior to October 7th, hundreds of thousands of Israelis in the street demanding that he resign because of his corrupt government, because of his power grab with the, with the judiciary. All of that was forgotten after October 7, of course, but that sentiment still exists. And so I think it's been well reported that once these hostages are returned, and if there is to be an end to the war, would that ultimately mean the end of Netanyahu and therefore there's no chance that he's going to go along with this ultimately?
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Well, I think part of the reason for President Trump's visit is to strengthen Netanyahu. Let's not be confused here. The two men are linked in every sense of the word. And President Trump is not interested in seeing Netanyahu replaced by somebody else. This is the man he's doing business with. He's confident that Netanyahu can deliver for him. I think Netanyahu is ultimately going to do what he wants to do and what he thinks is in the interest of Israel. And again, I don't see how this agreement in any way, shape or form does more than provide a temporary respite or respite from the war. Hamas has lots of cash. Hamas continues to fight all up and down the Gaza Strip. If the Israelis show up somewhere for any length of time, they're under attack. Gaza has replenished its, or excuse me, Hamas has replenished its losses. And the three parties, Egyptians, the Turks, and I guess it's Jordan, I can't remember now. They're all he mentions.
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The Qataris.
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Yeah, excuse me, the Qataris, they're all in this together. Nobody is neutral. We're not neutral. We're absolutely trying to do everything in our power to help and secure Israel, but Israel wants more. It's not satisfied with a new arrangement that effectively codifies the existence of the Palestinian state. And if they sign on for this agreement and they live up to it, they're going to get a two state solution, which is something they adamantly oppose. And the other, the three, the Qataris, the Turks and the Egyptians, they have an agenda which is equally destructive to Israel. And the Egyptians in particular, as you know, are very anxious to drag us back into the region as some sort of peacekeeping force, as a, as an Insurance policy against what could happen to them down the line if the Israelis decide to attack. I just don't see this working when.
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Somebody in our chat room just thank you for the 499 super chat says I suspect that they want the Palestinians to give up their future and independence for a false or fake present day peace. Netanyahu does not want peace. You agree disagree with our viewer?
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I think that's absolutely right. Peace is the end in his mind right now potentially of the Israeli state. This is the thing we've got to understand. Israel cannot coexist with a large Palestinian state consisting of the people in the west bank and Gaza. It sees that as not just unacceptable, as impossible. They're not compatible. And I don't think there is anything that President Trump can do to change that. But I think he is going to welcome the opportunity to posture as the bringer of peace, to speak to the Knesset as their great friend and benefactor. That's fine, but it's not going to fundamentally change the truth of the facts on the ground.
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Well, every ceasefire has been violated by Israel and you wouldn't know that if you followed the mainstream media. But now this talking points for the Zionist supporters will be we signed the peace deal. We tried, we got the hostages back, but Hamas did X. So we had to keep going. Already I see that happening, I can see it happening on Twitter as if I'm looking at the matrix in the future.
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Right.
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And so you're right. Right. And so what, what then will become of the Gaza Strip? Will it just be Israel eventually? And we're just spinning our wheels watching it happen?
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Condos and resorts and beachfront property.
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I wouldn't be quick to invest in that development project. I think there's gonna be more war and we don't know what that war will produce. Again, Iran is just over the horizon. The Iranians are arming to the teeth. They're prepared to be attacked. They harbor no illusions about Mr. Netanyahu and his regional aims. And they know that Iran's destruction is at the top of his agenda. You've got to Balkanize Iran, got to deprive it of any means of really self defense. It has to be completely emasculated. That's the goal. So how do you get there from here if at the same time you punt on the Palestinian state issue, which is effectively what they're going to do in this peace agreement?
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On the show, Colonel, you and I have talked about, and we've reported this many times, we've talked about the greater Israel Project. One of our viewers, I guess, is surprised that we would talk about it. He said, you guys will never hear redacted talk about the Greater Israel Project, which we've literally done interviews about right here on the show. So this is all part of the Greater Israel Project. If you have this Greater Israel Project, then this Gaza and Hamas, this is just a speed bump in the larger long term play, is it not?
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Well, that was actually what the Israelis anticipated. They thought that Gaza would have been annihilated and effectively taken off the regional chessboard by now, but it hasn't. The staying power, the resilience of these people who are willing to die for the land that they live on has astonished everyone, including, including much of the world. I don't think most of us would have gone through what they have and stayed put. So that screwed up their timetable. And remember, the Egyptians have seen the map. The Jordanians have the Saudis and the Turks as well as the Lebanese. Everybody's looked at this and they know that this involves a major expansion of Israel and its regional presence and power. Who wants to sign on for that? Nobody. Maybe the Israelis, but nobody else in the region wants it. Nobody else in the region supports it. So what do you do? Well, you've got a problem. You've got the United States of America who is unconditionally signed on to support the Greater Israel Project. So they have to stand by until we become frustrated, lose patience, or we simply walk away from the problem. I mean, effectively, that's what Donald Trump has done with Ukraine. After three years, he said, fine, I'm turning it over to you. I'll give you weapons in exchange for cash, but otherwise the war is your problem. And he's left. What if he does that down the line in the Middle East? He's frustrated because he couldn't achieve a peace agreement. Netanyahu is extraordinarily smart. He knows this. He can't let this drag on and drag on and drag on for fear that if he does, Israel could lose everything.
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Colonel, so just bottom line it for us. Do you think this peace agreement will hold for any length of time? What's your, what's your sense?
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It'll hold until Mr. Netanyahu decides that they're in a position to drop it, dump it. I can't forecast right now if that's two weeks, five weeks, three hours. I mean, the Israelis are well known for doing whatever they deem to be in their interest, regardless of what agreement has been made. So I don't think it will last. I know it will hold very long, but what is very long mean? Long enough for President Trump to visit and give his speech. Long enough for President Trump to announce to the world that he's the bringer of peace and good fortune to the Middle East. And then suddenly it's gone and you're at war with Iran. And while you're at war with Iran, you finish off as much as you can of what remains in Gaza. That's, that's my expectation.
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And meanwhile, the Palestinians that are held by Israel under administrative detention, it's a horror. And so the Israeli hostages will be released eventually. I think that we can all agree that is going to happen. The Palestinian hostages, it's just. Is there any way to comfort ourselves that any of them will be released and safe?
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No. And these people are considered Amalek. They're considered to be animals, so they're treated as animals. How many of them will be released? I have no idea. What will the ratio be for what? 48 living hostages? Is that not the number right Now? So multiply 48 times whatever number you want. It'll be some huge ratio so that you'll end up with a couple of thousand or more Palestinians being released, probably old men and boys, I would suspect. But it's not going to result in the release of 15,000 people. That's not going to happen. So again, this is a gesture and I'm not suggesting that President Trump, in his mind is not serious. I think he probably is. All I'm saying is the reality is it's not going to work. And if you, if you look back at Israeli behavior in the past, what's the, what's the easiest solution for them? You go to war with Iran to try and annihilate Iran. You bring us into the fight to try and finish the job for you. In the meantime, you also turn on the Gaza Strip and try to finish the job there and then continue to move incrementally on the west bank until finally, at some point in the distant future, everybody's gone. But that presumes that your war with Iran goes well. It assumes that no one else in the region will do anything. In other words, it assumes that the future will look like the past after the 12 day conflict. I'm not sure they can bet on that.
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Yeah.
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Colonel Douglas MacGregor, always great to see you. We are watching sort of dual stories play out here. The impending attack on Iran that's coming and this peace agreement, how long that will hold. Colonel, always great to see you. Thank you for your analysis.
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Good to see you as well. Bye.
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Bye.
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Thanks.
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Colonel.
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Someone in the chat says. Why are we listening to him? Because he's been right for the. Since the. Because he's got experience in military strategy and he was right that Ukraine wouldn't win the war, that we'd still be here.
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Right.
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All along.
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Yeah, he's batting a thousand.
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You have like selective hearing.
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Yeah.
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You know, but anyway. Anyway, we got more news to get to here on your Thursday. We got a lot of news to get to coming up.
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We're going to talk about how the mainstream media is training journalists to look the other way about Israel. And yeah, we see it. We see it happening. It's amazing that all of these journalists are willing to sell their soul. We're going to talk about that. But first we want to tell you about our friends over at IQ Bar because this episode is brought to you by our IQ Bar, our exclusive sponsors snack and hydration sponsor. It is a better for you plant based snack high in protein brain. Sorry I didn't have one today, so that's a chance.
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What's going on with your brain?
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Isn'T part of that because we had to fold everything into critical race theory and somehow the Middle east became part of.
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You know, I see it differently and.
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I love this conversation because I think.
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People, those of us who went to college, give a lot more credit to college courses for how the world works than I do. This is not about critical race theory on college campus. This is about Iran.
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Iran and Qatar have come up with a disinformation campaign that they are running.
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Through TikTok and Instagram that is massive.
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If you are a young person, you.
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Open up your phone and all you see is this. Dead guys, a baby.
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Dead guy's a baby.
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Dead guy's a baby.
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Diddy.
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Dead guy. Baby.
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Dead guys, a baby.
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That's basically your own thing.
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So that's not okay.
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So here he is participating in a fellowship that's paying young reporters to produce the exact same kind of managed message that he's accusing other people of doing just under a different flag. So what does this mean for objective journalists? How do we even know how to trust anybody if journalists are going to have this thought training before they even get into the workforce? Our guest today is Emily Jashinsky from Unherd. She joins us to discuss how these blur the lines between propaganda and media and why this is a conflict of interest for journalists. Thank you so much for joining me.
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Thank you for having me.
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So what is your reaction to this? When you see that major outlets are participating in this way, in a way that's clearly written out, that you're not supposed to do, it's interesting because Van.
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Jones is, you know, obviously someone who comes from left wing activism, was briefly part of the Obama administration and has sort of pretty clear opinions on all of these things. So I'll put him in a separate category for now. I still disagree with his lack of disclosure and all of that, but all of these outlets that are roped into this report, according to drop site's excellent investigation, we are talking about outlets that actually do purport they, they have this ambition of achieving neutrality. And that's insane. I mean, I couldn't believe actually the comment the New York Times gave to Dropsite excusing their own journalists participation in this fellowship by saying it doesn't violate their rules when it very brazenly violates their exact rules for their own journalists. So with Van Jones, I mean, as, as an opinion journalist myself, I came, came out of like conservative nonprofit world. I still disclose every time I speak to a group on my own website because I just think it's helpful and useful for people to know. But that's basically all out the window when you look at these quiet propaganda campaigns that we never know about until some reporter gets their hand on the information.
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Right. And who was the foundation that the woman went to? It's the Jewish Federation. Now, it doesn't say whether or not the mentors get paid, but they are still involved in some kind of training of young minds. And so does this excuse that at all, whether they get paid or not?
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Right. No. And it's weird to act like this is anything other than a propaganda campaign. I mean, it's just laughable to act like this is anything other than a propaganda campaign. Their argument is that they believe the truth is essentially the best form of propaganda. So they say they will only be trafficking in the truth and in the facts. You know, they believe if they train up good journalists, then it'll, it'll just be better for Israel. Even if, you know, they train up journalists who use west bank in their copy instead of Judea and Samaria, they say that is still just for the good of Israel. And that's obviously, I mean, that's obviously not why they're putting people through these fellowships. So I'm curious if this nonprofit takes any money from the Israeli government. I think that's a fairly important question because oftentimes governments will use these nonprofits as pass through entities essentially so they can separate themselves from where the money is going. There's a lot more to learn here.
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Something that just never ceases to amaze me is how far and wide the Zionist movement casts their net towards thought leaders. We saw recently that they're tracking Christians when they go to church on their phone and they're tending the garden of the next generation to make sure that their support continues. And so how do we ever know, you know, what is authentic if the, if the tentacles are so deep and wide?
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It's really, I mean, it is genuinely frightening because it's so hard to separate the fact from the fiction, especially when you don't fully know where the money is coming from and what sorts of programs people have gone through that may be calling their perception of what is like the neutral description of X, Y or Z. And in this case that's particularly difficult because, for example, there haven't been, there has not been journalistic access to Gaza. Western journalists have not been able to get into Gaza. And so when you go through a fellowship that, you know is, is very favorable to the Israeli government, I think we can at least say that. I think that's probably an understatement of what is happening at these fellowships. But if we just say that every time you go to cover the story, you then, if you're a neutral reporter, just, just the facts, if you're just calling balls and strikes, then you're already preconditioned to see the Israeli government statements as more trustworthy than what you're hearing from anybody else. And they're a government, it's political. Of course, they're not always telling the truth. So that's a problem. Just like right out of the gate.
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And we continue to see revealed all of these conflicts of interest. You were speaking recently about Douglas Murray, who President Trump is promoting his book to sell you this idea that Israel is an extension of American democracy that we must protect. He, you know, got his backside handed to him by Dave Smith on Joe Rogan's Post podcast, and that went poorly for his credibility. Now we find out that he was acting as a speechwriter for Israeli politicians. And so I guess I would ask you to ring in on that conflict and how obvious it was and how the rest of us should have had notice of that.
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Yeah. My colleague Ryan Grimm reported out this story over at Dropsite. And honestly, I thought it was, like, very disappointing to learn. It's not entirely surprising, but in some sense it's still, for example, the Atlantic, who was employing David Frum at the time, back in 2014, when both Fromm and Douglas Murray in their emails, we can see these were leaked emails, hacked emails that Dropsite got its hands on. We can see them talking to the ambassador and offering advice on a speech, actually drafting the speech. And they were both journalists at the time, and so was Seth Mandel. And none of this was disclosed. In fact, David Frum actually, while they were going back and forth on the draft of the speech, asked to profile the ambassador for the Atlantic, which he did without any disclosure whatsoever. And the Atlantic did not return comment to Dropsite, just like the New York Times did not return content, did not return a comment request. And again, if this was a conservative, if this was Ted Cruz or if this was Nigel Farage or if, in the case of the training program, it was some type of conservative, conservative movement group, whatever you want to say, these outlets would be losing their minds. These outlets would be apoplectic, and they would genuinely be coming down hard on the journalists. I think we all know that. The only reason it's not is that they're really, really afraid of picking this fight.
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But they were once, at least when I was working for Mainstream journalism. This was a big no, no. They chased us to make sure of it. And in fact, when CBS replaced me, they had a spokesperson for a car company that did some of my tech reports. And she had to disclose this woman who it was so and so, who's also a spokesperson for whatever because other people had a fit. You can't have a spokesperson doing this. I mean, I can give you a million examples like that. Like I said at NBC, even the pages couldn't take Starbucks from someone who was a guest. How has this gone out the window now?
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I genuinely don't know. And I also, again, I want to emphasize I don't think this is happening on a lot of other issue areas. I really don't. I think, you know, if you're, you're David Frum and you were a speechwriter for George W. Bush, and you're, you're Douglas Murray, you're obviously, these are two people who come from deeply ideological positions. And maybe, I mean, this is again, just the best explanation that I can come up with. They were hired at their various publications with the knowledge their employers had, the knowledge that they were, you know, willing to act as activists on behalf of this cause, that again, saying it charitably, they care very deeply about David from is Jewish. And so again, that's the charitable explanation here, is that the outlets say we hired you knowing that you are basically an activist on behalf of this cause. But it's still, if you're a reader, you know, you're just your average reader from where I'm from in Wisconsin. You hear this stuff and you're like, you gotta be kidding me. Let me know so I can make up my own mind. Readers aren't dumb and they need to stop being treated like they are.
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Right? Here's something I saw reported. I don't know if it's true yet or not, but speaking of an activist in a media role, Bari Weiss, who's now taking over at cbs, is reportingly going to start out with a panel on the Middle east, starting Hillary Clinton, Tony Blinken and Mike Pompeo. So way to go. A panel on the Middle east with no Middle Eastern people and all of them war lovers. How, I mean, could it be any more transparent that this position East.
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It's again, it's so disappointing because what the free press is supposed to be bringing to CBS is something new it is supposed to be bringing again, this is the theory that everyone has been sold a taste of independent media, which covers things that old legacy media does not. And that would Include this particular conflict. So, for example, they had Dave Smith on for a debate with Coleman Hughes. Like the day before this was actually made official. This merger was actually made official. If Barry was putting Dave Smith on a panel, that would genuinely be bringing new voices into CBS that are actually valuable for bringing a diversity of perspective to the table. This is not that. This is just doing what CBS has already been doing.
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Yeah.
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Well, I really appreciate your take on media propaganda. I think you're doing a great job. So it was a pleasure to speak with you. My guest has been Emily Jashinsky from Unheard. Thank you so much.
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Thank you.
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By the way, a great website. If you get a chance to read Unherd and I like the layout of the websites. They're great, Great, great reading. So thanks.
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Well, you know what? When I was researching why CBS would pay $150 million for the free press, it became readily apparent that Unherd does way better numbers than the free Press. And they didn't get an offer like this. It just, it makes no sense. I mean, if you look at the numbers that their podcast do, Redacted does better than this. I just don't understand this high dollar value for this compromised lead of a purse at the network. But okay, it's not my money. Go ahead and do that if you want to.
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Coming up here on the show, we're going to talk about the Trucker Convoy 2.0. Like, Canada seems to be facing a revolutionary moment right now. Will Canadians seize the day? We had the trucker convoy participants. You had Tamara Leash and Chris Barber who were sentenced this week. Then you have the tyranny that's unfolding against the Canadian farmers right now. There's a strike. There's all sorts of issues happening right now in Canada. We're going to check in on that. Plus, what is Lockheed Martin hiding at their skunk works facility? We're going to speak to the journalist who managed to get unbelievable video and camped out before security almost like scooted him away from the Lockheed Martin skunk works facility. What sort of advanced aerospace technology like the Tic Tac, for instance, or other things. We're going to look at that coming up. But first, microplastics are infiltrating every part of our body. Scientists estimate we now consume a credit card's worth of plastic every single week. Delicious. Not. It's right through our food system, even our water, even the air we breathe. One study found that plastic particles in 100% of human lung samples. So nobody is safe from exposure. It gets worse. These Plastic don't just sit in your body. They cross the gut lining, leach into your blood, and disrupt everything they've been shown to alter. Gut bacteria suppress your immune response and increase your risk of neurodegenerative disease, metabolic disorders, and cancer. Some plastic toxins, like BPA and flates, mimic hormones that interfere with fertility and damage DNA. Even if you eat clean or avoid packaged foods, you're still being exposed. You can't opt out, but your gut can help you fight back. Kimchi one from our friends at Brightcore. Nutrition is a potential ally in this toxic world is packed with over 900 probiotic strains unique to Kimchi, proven to break down BPA, helping you detox from the inside out. It doesn't just support digestion. It helps protect your cells, your brain, your hormones, and your future. Your body was never designed to handle plastic, but your gut was designed to protect you. And you have to give it the right tools. Right now, you can get 25% off if you use our code redacted at the link below. It's just mybrightcore.com redacted. But an even better deal is if you call them. You call them, you'll get 50% off at 888-404-6312. And they'll also, I think, give you still that bottle of vitamin D3. You have to ask them about that. Kim Chi Won from Brightcore Health starts in the gut. Our thanks to Brightcore for supporting our show.
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Okay, a bit of breaking news. A federal grand jury has indicted New York Attorney General Letitia James on one count of fraud. One count of fraud, Eastern district of Virginia. From her mortgage fraud. Her alleged mortgage fraud. I'm gonna pop some popcorn for that one later. We don't have more details, but I had to bring that to you.
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We knew that was coming.
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Yeah, I just wanted to get your reaction there.
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Her, like, phony phony primary residence. Phony primary. Primary residence.
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And listing her father as a spouse, I believe is what she did in order to qualify for in state for a primary mortgage.
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Adam Schiff probably will be next on this indictment list.
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You think that's your.
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Well, I mean, he's.
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That's your bingo card.
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I. I think it's coming. Indictment.
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Bingo.
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Well, all this. All these mortgage fraudsters. Yeah, I would think so. So Adam Schiff right there. All right, well, let's talk about Canada. Remember the brave Canadian trucker convoy that stood up to government tyranny, said, no way are we getting a Covid shot simply for us to drive our trucks across The Canadian border. Well, the government arrested Canadian heroes Tamara Leach and Chris Barber, tried to throw them behind bars, but of course they fought back. Canadians rose up and said, absolutely not. It's been a nightmare for them. Their sentencing, though, finally happened this week and they learned their fates. They posted though this video right before the sentencing. They thought, hey, we might be going to prison. Watch. Hi, everyone. Tamara and Chris, live from Ottawa.
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Yes.
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Why are we here?
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Why are we here?
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We might be going to jail tomorrow.
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Actually, we're gonna do it this way.
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So we don't have to say, you.
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Know, we're just waiting for a few.
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People to come on here.
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Yeah, that's right.
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You don't have to wait for a lot. We're here.
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I did the.
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Well, we Both did the 3,000 kilometer.
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Journey across and we're here now and.
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We'Re waiting to hear our fate tomorrow.
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Morning in Ottawa Court or 10 o'.
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Clock a.m. 10 o' clock tomorrow.
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So we got there.
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Fate.
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The trucker convoy, of course, sparked outrage around the world with other farmers, truckers standing up to government tyranny using really that Canadian trucker convoy model as their template for how to do it. I was in Berlin covering, you know, farmers rolling into the square demanding answers from their government on lowering taxes. I mean, it was really a catalyst moment in the Netherlands, all around the the world. And now we've got that plus the government there trying to cull 400 ostriches and the ostrich farm in British Columbia terrorizing Katie Pasitney and her farm there. I mean, Canadians have had enough. And I think they're at a revolutionary moment right now. And you're seeing it in just the messages online, people saying we've had enough. What is going to happen to Canada? David Crayton is an independent journalist, writes of the Post. Millennial, joins us from Ottawa, Canada, today. Great to see you. David, what is the first of all, before we get to Tamara Leash and Chris Barber and their sentencing, which you were covering, of course, I think you were at the courthouse covering that. Where do we stand right now with the ostrich farm? I know you spoke to Katie, the owner of that farm. Can you give us an update there?
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Yeah, I'd be happy to. Clayton and Natalie, I just spoke to Katie a couple of hours ago. We stay in contact every day and I was quite concerned because she said last night that she had been to determine what is in the dumpsters. And she told me today that there are substantially fewer ostriches.
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She's can.
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She has no way of Finding out what that actually means. But from the sources she's been talking to, they're saying there's possibly 30 to 40 fewer ostriches. I've heard her use that number in the past. So what is going on here? Because they can't feed their ostriches. They can't even see them. But here's really breaking news. And Katie will be on tomorrow with me to talk about this in more depth. But she told me today she talked to the RCMP liaison team, you know, the police liaison team, and one RCMP officer came to her and said, look, here's what I'm prepared to do. We'll send a drone up over the farm. We'll get video footage of the ostriches. I'll take the video footage back, I'll assess it, I'll analyze it, and I'll tell you exactly how many ostriches are left on your farm. I can't give you the video, but you can trust me. I'll give you an accurate number. Katie said, sounds great. Thank you, sir. Go forth and do it. Within probably hours, the CFIA was on the phone to his superior saying, butt out. Get out of our investigation. You're not putting a drone above that farm. And if you do, something's going to happen to that RCMP officer. I don't think they made any physical threats, sir, but they suggested that this was not a good thing. And that RCMP officer is now under a cloud because of this. Now, Clayton, I ask you this. What kind of a country do you have where a bunch of faceless, murdering bureaucrats in the CFIA have authority over your national police force? And this is exactly what has happened here. They are calling the shots. They are saying the RCMP can't even send a drone up over this airspace and record video. Canada is off the rails, Clayton, when you say there's a spirit of. Of revolution and rebellion in this country, God knows why. Because we have been putting up with this government authoritarianism for so long. And this farm, this oppressed farm with this family that is simply trying to do an honest day's work and is being told by the government, you no longer have access to your private property, your livestock, or your livelihood. The government has occupied this farm and told them they have no rights. And the cfia, an organization that Katie refers to as the Canadian Animal Cruelty Agency, now seems to be an out of control, off the rails bureaucracy that seems to do whatever the hell it pleases, seems to be able to break the law with impunity, and it's getting away with it. So what Katie wants to do is to formally charge the CFIA with animal cruelty. And she's been in touch with former police officers who have quoted aspects and sections of the criminal code of Canada that are distinctly applicable to this kind of charge. So I think this is where she needs to go with this because the CFIA will do whatever the hell it pleases, whatever it thinks it wants to do to advance its agenda. There was a report out this week that the Supreme Court decision on whether to hear this appeal could last for three months. Katie said to me today, I don't believe that for a minute. This is all about discouraging our supporters from staying on the farm, discouraging friendly media from reporting on this, from coming to the farm. I don't believe it's going to be three months. But I'll tell you this, Clayton, if the CFIA continues its animal abuse, it's neglect of these creatures, it's direct application of oppressive tactics, these animals are going to continue to die. And that's exactly what the CFIA wants. It wants to pretend they're dying of some pre existing condition, whatever that means, because they're not even saying the pre existing condition was H1N1 avian flu. It was just some mysterious pre existing condition. This agency must be held accountable for its ravenous actions against these animals in these farmers and this farm. And I can tell you, increasingly, with every day that passes, Clayton, more and more Canadians are saying, enough. We're fed up with a government that has no respect for its people, no respect for private property, and is waging a war on agriculture and farmers in this country. And more than just this, this is just the prime example of how much this government hates farmers and how much it hates private property and how much it disrespects its population. We're living in Stalinist Russia right now. That's how I would describe Canada.
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But it seems like the government is going to carry out the task even though they're being watched and then say, oh, we're sorry later, like they're, they're committed to it. And is there case law that would support. Because in the United States you can't really sue the US Government without their permission in most cases. Is there a way for her to do that? Because otherwise everybody would sue. Like I paid my taxes and I didn't get that right. And so can she do that or. Clearly she's going to. If you go to save our ostriches, I think it is Save our ostriches Dot com. I mean, they need a lot of financial support because they're being terrorized.
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Well, Katie has the goods on the cfia. She has video footage that shows the CFIA not delivering electrolytes to the ostrich that died. This ostrich died from neglect. This ostrich died because the CFIA was given custody of these animals by the Supreme Court of Canada. What does custody mean? Well, if you're given custody of your children, you're expected to feed them and look after them. And that's what custody means in this case. In the Criminal Code of Canada does provide a very specific passage about people or organizations that commit cruelty to animals or allow cruelty to animals to persist. They can be charged under the Criminal Code of Canada, and they can receive up to five years in prison and up to $10,000 fine or both. And it's funny, because this is a farm that's asked, let us test these animals, please. If you don't want to do it, CFIA if you don't want to do it, Mark Carney, we will test these animals. They have said, you do that, you get six months in jail and up to $200,000 fine. That's their threat. So something stinks about this from day one. Obviously, the CFIA knows these animals are healthy. There's no health danger here. It took them three days to don their silly hazmat costumes because they clearly knew there is no health threat here. They were walking around without even masks on their face, claiming these birds posed a public health threat. This is a charade. It's a joke. But this is, as you've said so often, Clayton, it's a criminal organization called the cfia. But as Katie more accurately describes it, this is the Cruelty to Animals Agency.
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Yeah, absolutely. They are a criminal organization. Is that Philip?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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So I just. I just want to point out one of the. One of the early articles I read on this.
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The.
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The cfia, like, a spokesman for them, like, flat out said, and I'm paraphrasing, but they don't care if the birds are sick. That this is.
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They're like, that's not the point.
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That's what they're. That's what they're arguing.
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But what they.
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It's just that they didn't follow orders. They were told to do this, and they didn't do it. And so it was just. Because I told you so. It had. It has nothing to do with them being sick. I mean, that was one of the earlier articles I read on this, and.
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That'S Precisely it, Philip. They're following the directives of the World Animal Health Organization and the World Health Organization, the United Nations. They're not following Canadian law. They're not even obeying the Canadian government. They're obeying these globalist, internationalist entities. They're following UN law, which is a stamp out policy. Even if the birds are no longer sick. Well, we should have stamped them out 72 hours after the sickness erupted, but that doesn't matter. Even though it's been eight, nine months later, we're still going to stamp them out because the UN tells us to do that. That's one of the incredible anomalies of this situation, one of the incredible injustices of this situation, because these people aren't even following Canadian law, they're following UN dictates.
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Before we get you out of here, David, let's do an update here on Tamara Leach and Chris Barber. They were sentenced this week. I think they published that video thinking, man, we're probably going to go to jail. We don't know what's going to happen here. This has been a nightmare for them, of course, the trucker convoy. They became really national heroes, I think, national symbols of freedom and what it means to stand up for liberty in your country. What is their fate? What will they have to deal with now for the next 18 months?
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Well, Chris Barber and Tamara Leach both received 12 months house arrest. Chris will also have a six month curfew. Tamara, a 3.5 month curfew. She got sort of time off for the time she's already served in prison, 74 days in custody. So the judge said, we'll give you some, some time off your curfew for that very emotional day. Clayton A packed courthouse, standing room only. Except of course, there was no, there was no place for standing room. If you, if you didn't have a seat, you weren't invited. 25% of the audience was media independent and mainstream. 75% were supporters of Chris and Tamara. Very emotional day. I have been there since day one and it's been two years and one month to the day that this trial began. I was there for probably 95% of these hearings. And very emotional day. When the judge read the sentencing for Chris, she called a break. And we all knew, of course, that Tamara would probably get about the same thing or maybe even less. The judge left to go to her chambers. Everybody stayed seated, very, very quiet. As soon as the judge left the room, everybody in that room, except some of the media stood up and applauded and looked over at Chris, who was very, very emotional about this, and a lot of people have been saying, you know, it's a grievous sentence. He shouldn't have got anything. It should have been an absolute discharge. Of course it should have been. Should this charge have ever been levied? No. Should this trial have ever occurred? Absolutely not. Should they have been found guilty? Absolutely not. Again. But I tell you this, Clayton and Natalie, if it hadn't have been for organizations like yours, for media outlets like yours, and I'll take a lot of credit myself, I wrote about 40 stories about this. I don't know how many broadcasts I did on my own station and other people's channels to talk about this. This could have been worse. Because we cannot trust this government, this Liberal government, not to interfere in the judicial process. We cannot trust this Liberal government, this Marxist Carney government, to do the right thing, or for that matter, the provincial government of Doug Ford in Ontario, which actually was the one responsible for these charges. This was a provincial court. This is a provincial offense that these. They were charged under. So I'm standing up today and I'm saying, thank God there were enough honest, credible journalists out there who covered this story in a way that said, this is a political show trial. And it's been that way from day one. They put these two people on trial and because they simply disagreed with the COVID narrative. And we know now that Pfizer and Moderna knew about the danger of this vaccine. Naomi Wolf has edited the Pfizer papers. I talked to Naomi on my own show recently. This is conclusive. They knew the dangers here. So my question, when one reporter asked him, asked Tamara Leach's lawyer, Lawrence Greenspan, is Tamara remorseful? And he said, absolutely not. She pled not guilty. And she told me, I'm not going to be. I'm not going to express remorse. And I said to Lawrence, I had the next question. I said, lawrence, did Tamara save lives? And he looked at me right in the eye and he said, yeah, yeah, she probably did. She probably did. Obviously, he can't pull out a number from his magic bag. But he said, I'll tell you this. Her actions, her protests touched the lives of tens, hundreds of thousands of people. And I wrote the next day, chris and Tamara probably saved hundreds of thousands of lives because even though the Emergencies act came, brought the full force of the state and the police down on their heads, after the Freedom Convoy protest, the laws, the mandates, the lockdowns began to recede in Canada. And a person contacted me today in response to an Article I wrote entitled Did Chris and Tamara Save Lives? She said, they saved my life. I was going to commit suicide until the mandates and the lockdowns receded. So I don't know how many lives they say, how many people said, I'm not going to get the jab now. I don't have to because I've lost two family members because of the COVID jab. And I tell you, a lot of other people I know have too. But I think a lot of lives were saved because of the protests and the courage and the determination and the pushback from Chris Barber and Tamara Leach. I'm proud to call them my friends after two years of going to this trial. And I will continue to correspond with them and to support whatever they do because these are great Canadians. These are icons of Canadian heroism. And as you said, Clayton, they defined the anti vax, the anti Covid mandate protest. And they've defined how grassroots people, truckers, blue collar workers, ordinary Canadians, ordinary people around the world can rise up and tell their government to shove it. We are pushing back. We're fighting back, and we won't take it anymore.
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David Crayton. Well said. I don't need to say anything else. I don't need to jump in with my 2 cents. Well said, my friend. Yeah. And we're excited. We'd love to get to Tamara on the show. I wanted all of this to sort of die down where she could come here on Redacted and Chris as well and be able to tell their story when they're finally away from the media circus for a little while. David, great to see you, my friend. Thanks so much as always.
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Thank you both and we'll see you soon.
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Thanks, David.
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Very good. Well, coming up, we're going to talk about what is Lockheed Martin hiding? So leave you with that little.
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What?
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Yeah, you're what?
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I just can't wait.
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Okay, you're gonna wait because I'm gonna tell our friends over, tell them all about Lear Capital, because you may have seen that precious metals are up. Oh, let me double check the number. Just, yeah. Topped $4,000 an ounce. That means it is up 54% this year. So if you're kicking yourself and say, why didn't I listen to redacted in January of this year? Well, it's not too late because experts expect it to keep going. This is on record for gold to have its best year since 1979. Now you might be thinking, oh, I don't know exactly how to do that. I, I haven't learned about precious Metals. Well, that's why we partner with Lear Capital, because they can teach you Right now, if you go to learn, you can get all of the information and get someone to contact you personally. It's not just to sell study guide, although they have that too. Although we usually recommend that you call the number because they can help you learn to invest in precious metals. Either to have it in your house, to buy small shares of it, to buy it in an IRA or some kind of retirement account. There is really a buffet of options to choose from. They can teach you how to invest not just in gold, but in silver as well. They have study guides, investor guides, it's a free guide. But also they'll stay on the phone with you until you are satisfied asking your questions and point you in the right direction. So we can't recommend enough because of course, the US is on a dangerous path. Reckless spending. We're now in a government shutdown. The government shutdown has boosted the levels of tangible assets like gold and silver, which was predictable. So, you know, again, we have Ukraine, we have Russia, Iran, Israel. We're not. It doesn't feel like we're done here, peace plan or not. So that's why Clayton and I started investing in gold and silver years ago. And it's been one of the smartest, most secure moves for our family's finances. Even our kids have holdings. That's not, it's absolutely true. It's. It's not a trend, it's a shift. So it's your turn to act. Check them out@learredacted.com or again, just call them 800-613-357 or go to learn redacted.com.
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But what is Lockheed Martin hiding at their Skunk Works facility in the desert? UFO technology reverse engineered into secret craft that we're not allowed to know about for another 30 years. Anti gravity propulsion technology or a new version of their Tic Tac anti gravity aircraft, of course, that was spotted famously off the coast of the USS Nimitz. Off the. The pilots off the USS Nimitz, of course, famously testifying before Congress, this man made craft that could travel in ways that humans never could. What is being hidden right now at Skunk Works? Well, Anders Otissen decided to find out. He's been sneaking out in the desert near the Lockheed Martin Skunk Works facility, camping out overnight, using some incredible night vision technology as well as telephoto lenses to get as close as he possibly can without breaking in the law to try to get images of these secret aircraft Watch.
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I thought I heard a plane circling straight up ahead and looks like we got a Predator drone. It's been flying circles. I. I still have service over here, so I was able to pull it up on my Ads B app too.
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Yeah, they're tracking him there or something. Who knows exactly what. What they're doing with that craft above his head. Maybe just testing out all sorts of new technologies. Well, Anders joins us now to talk about his experience there. And I, you know, I watch your videos and just been fascinated about this. So, you know, sometimes people do like, clickbaity stuff. Not you. Like, you camped out trying to get answers at what's going on at Skunk Works. So thank you so much for joining us here on the show. I was excited to talk with you.
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Yeah, thanks so much for having me, Clayton. I really appreciate you having me on.
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My pleasure. So what was the impetus for you to first start seeing and getting as close as you could to Skunk Works? What rumors had you heard over the years that you wanted answers to?
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Well, I guess going back, I've always kind of been fascinated with the idea or the concept that elements within the military or military industrial complex are like 30 to 50 years ahead of the regular public, technology wise. So that's kind of what started my channel is I really wanted to go out to these sites. You know, you have Area 51, but you also have places like this Lockheed site that are run by private contractors where a lot of this new technology is developed. So I wanted to, you know, I'd seen official press releases from Lockheed of this place, but I had never actually seen somebody go on the ground and just film stuff that happens, whether it's in the day or the night, and just kind of record and see what. What they can find out there. So I kind of wanted to do that. And this was my second trip out there, actually. I did another one back, and I think it was either February or March of this year. And I brought my night vision gear with me. I brought a really long telephoto lens, and I basically just went up into the hills, all on public land, and recorded whatever I could capture.
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So on the screen here, Philip, if you could leave this up here. This is some of the night vision stuff that you were capturing. And we didn't know until the daytime when you woke up the next day what we were looking at. This weird. I guess you would call. You call it a pylon. You call it a pylon with some. Something on top of it which looks like some sort of a Craft.
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Break down like. So we have the pylon, which what this is for is what's called radar cross section measurement. So this facility out in the desert, it's called the Helendale Radar cross section facility. And they constructed this pylon to have a very low, almost invisible radar signature which aids them in their measurement. Because what they're trying to do is they're testing these advanced aircraft and seeing how stealthy they are, seeing how they show up on radar. So what we're looking at here is the night vision footage was, I think it was definitely a different airframe than what we're looking at in the daytime. The one we're looking at here. It could be, you know, it's really hard to say. You know, I'm not Lockheed Martin, so I'm not entirely sure, but it is some sort of a fuselage. I believe it could be a model specifically to test like a new stealth material, or it could be like a fuselage with the wings removed of say, a new drone. Lockheed Martin did recently announce the new Vectus drone. I don't think that's what this is, but it could be something similar. It could, yeah, it could just be an airframe designed to test a new particular technology. There's quite a few possibilities.
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And what's crazy is you saw this giant pylon like coming out of the ground and then going back into the ground with the aircraft like attached to it. And I was racking my brain, I was talking to a couple of my UFO buddies that we commiserate from time to time about different stories and things. And I'm just curious why this pylon comes out from underneath the ground from their facility underground and then stick straight up in the air. Like, what's the point? Is there some sort of an aerodynamic test point for it? Because you would think you would do that in your facilities underground. I just don't understand why they're sticking this thing up in the air.
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Well, I've honestly kind of been fascinated with the way this facility has been constructed. So it has this massive 200 foot deep underground chamber that the pylon is actually stored in. And it does allow them to really quickly extend and retract the aircraft. So they actually store the aircraft underground. But for a lot of the measurement, I'm not the best at scientifically explaining it. But for the radar measurement that they blast the airframe with, it does have to be at least partially above ground. There are some indoor facilities now that do this, but this one, it was built during the Cold War. They kind of designed it to be able to quickly hide it from Soviet spy satellites, which is why it retracts below ground like it does.
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A
So when you've been out there at nighttime, and we can play some of the nighttime footage as well, have you, in the times that you've been there, have you witnessed anything in the air that you just think, wow, if Americans could see this type of technology or the speed with which these things move, they would be shocked. What have you seen while you've been there?
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D
Well, at the Skunk Works facility in particular, I haven't seen, seen anything flying except the drones. Like the Reaper drone I did see the first time I was out there. A kind of interesting looking drone that was more angular shape. It wasn't a Reaper, I'm not sure what it was, but it was. Yeah, it was flying in circles above me. Kind of like the Reaper was in this video. When I've been out more towards Nevada, like towards Area 51, when I've been looking through my night vision scope, I can sometimes see some things moving really high altitude that are pretty strange. Like for example, you'll see something that looks like a satellite. It's moving consistent speed and consistent direction, but then all of a sudden it'll quickly change directions and suddenly it doesn't look like a satellite anymore. So there are certainly are things flying around that I think the American public should know about and we don't.
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A
So yeah, that was, to be honest with you, Hand of the Heavens. That's when I witnessed the, my first UFO that I ever saw looking up into the night sky. Natalie and I both saw it because we were both looking, we were checking with each other, like, are we seeing this? And way up there and just started moving in an unbelievable speed in a box pattern, way up in the sky, just right across the sky, up, then just back down, like traveling in enormous speeds. Yeah, I figured I'd share that.
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C
Yeah, that's awesome.
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D
I truly believe if, if anyone who spends enough time looking up at the sky, you're eventually going to notice something unusual because it's up there.
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A
Maybe we can show some of the footage of here, the security trucks. So maybe you can explain where you are on these mountains here. Because we know at Area 51 they have all sorts of ground sensors that if you get near any of the gates, I've know from different reporters who've tried to get close, like the sensitivity, I mean they'll I. Even if it's like a. They know if it's like a gecko or A prairie dog is moving out there with these ground sensors. So maybe you can talk about some of the security precautions that Lockheed has around this facility and where exactly is this facility located?
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D
Yeah, so this is, like I said, it's called the Helendale Radar Cross Section facility. It's technically located in Helendale, California which is like a really small unincorporated part of rural LA County. So it's out in the Mojave Desert. It's pretty remote. You'll have a few houses kind of scattered around out there. But it's, it's far enough from LA to where you're not getting a whole lot of prying eyes on it out there, except people like me. But yeah, you got as far as security, they do have the marked. They're marked with Lockheed Martin security on the side of the pickups. They, they drive around the perimeter. I do notice if you drive by the gates or basically anywhere along the fence line, they come out really quick even if you don't have a direct line of sight to the guard track. So I do think there is some kind of a road sensor system they have going on because as you say at Area 51 they, they operate those. And I know these, these kinds of facilities are just as sophisticated really. I did have some sort of a, there, there was a black pickup that came out and was kind of looking at me. I don't know, he may have been getting my plates or some people theorized they may have been like capturing packets from my, my cell phone, you know, who knows? But they basically just kind of parked in the road next to me for maybe 20 minutes and we're just kind of watching me. So I don't, I don't know exactly what to make of that, but it was interesting.
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A
So I mean, not to get in the realm, full realm of speculation, but I think we just have a little fun here. What do you think?
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D
I like that.
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A
Yeah. Do you think that there's any advanced off world technology being held and analyzed, rebuilt, reverse engineered at the Skunk Works facility?
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D
My personal opinion is that probably yes. Now I don't, we're, we're definitely in the realm of speculation. I don't have any direct evidence of that, but I think there's enough credible testimony out there that would suggest that Lockheed Martin is probably one of the companies that would be involved in this. You know, there's, they're the largest US military defense contractor. They're the largest defense contractor in the world. So if it is true that the US government has reverse engineered technology, I would certainly Think Lockheed Martin would be one of the companies involved. And I think there's enough whistleblower testimony. You have David Grusch, you have Dylan Borland who just came out. I'm big fans of what they've had to say to Congress and I look forward to really hearing more. And I think we will hear Lockheed Martin's name come up as these kinds of hearings continue.
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A
You know, not to tell tales out of school, but I'm sure once your videos hit and they became, you know, pretty big. Have you heard from any whistleblowers or you can, you can just shake your head or just wink from any, any Lockheed Martin individuals who are like, wanted to fill you in on some of the stuff that they, they know about at Lockheed.
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D
At the Skunk Works, I haven't had anyone reach out, unfortunately, to fill me in. I think it is so compartmentalized and so secretive that, you know, people. People reaching out like that would be taking a pretty considerable risk. I did get a private message from somebody who said they worked for Skunk Works after I published my first video. But they were more just kind of asking like, where and when I filmed it, which I don't really know what kind of quite what they were getting at with it, if it was like, you know, probing for security reasons or what. But it didn't seem hostile or anything like that. But that was the only message I got directly from a Skunk Works employee. I've had a few. I've had a few high profile people that were either former Air Force test pilots or former civilian employees at some of these kinds of places, like, follow me on Instagram and Twitter. So I am hoping that, you know, some of these people are going to start. Start reaching out to me because I would love to pick their brain and hear what they have to say.
- [73:15]
A
Well, I love the videos. I love what you're doing over at uncanny expeditions on YouTube. Give them a follow if you're into this sort of thing like I am. I think you would really find it fascinating. Check out the series that Anders has done here on the Skunk Works facility. His most recent one was just published about seven days ago. And that's where we got some of this remarkable footage. Before I let you go, we're seeing this. I just want to keep talking to you. But this flatbed truck with this airframe that's on it. You watch this truck kind of going back and forth here. And what's remarkable is this truck goes underground. Like, this thing is huge. This underground facility must be massive.
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D
Yeah. There's so many theories about this Hell and Dale facility. It's definitely kind of a cornerstone in UFO UAP lore because it has such a large underground component to it. So the pylon that comes up from the facility, it's. It's 200ft tall, and the facility is 200ft deep. So you could really hide a lot of things down there. And there's all kinds of speculation out there that there's underground tunnels connecting this to other facilities in the area. Area 51, Edwards Air Force Base. You know, the only way I'd be able to confirm that is if I were able to rent. Rent like, some ground penetrating radar or something like that. But we do know for a fact that it would be a great place to hide some of this stuff, just because you already have that underground infrastructure there. And as you say, this truck was able to drive down there, and the truck, you know, it fully entered the underground test chamber, and they loaded the model onto it, and they drove it right out. So.
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A
Yeah. How hot it is and inhospitable. Even in your video, you're talking about how, my God, it's just been brutally hot. So. Yeah, it's just not. It's a great place to hide stuff.
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D
Yeah, for sure. Yep.
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A
It's like Walter White and Breaking Bad out in the. Out in the New Mexico desert. It's a good place.
- [75:07]
D
Yeah. It's like. Yeah, the underground laundry facility or whatever he had up there.
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A
Right, Exactly. Anders, great to have you here on the show again.
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E
The.
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A
The webs, the. The YouTube channel is called Uncanny Expeditions. Check out his latest videos on Skunk Works, and I'm looking forward to your next videos, by the way. Thanks, Anders. Great to have you here.
- [75:25]
D
Yeah, I really appreciate it. Thanks so much.
- [75:28]
A
You bet. All right.
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C
Fast. I know.
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F
I am.
- [75:32]
B
I am so impressed.
- [75:33]
A
My friend sent me that. I was like, I want to go on an expedition with. With Anders. I want to go and do this for sure. And I'm excited to see what comes next, especially if there's any sort of ground penetrating radar, if you can get close to see these large underground facilities. Someone in our chat room says, yeah, these dumbs. The deep underwater underground military bases are massive. I mean, these massive underground cities across the United States, we don't even know about them. Hidden under the, you know, Denver Airport and other places. So. Yeah. Interesting. All right. All right, well, we'll take some of your super chats here in a second. We will indeed. But first, I want to tell you about our friends over@crypto.com because cryptocurrency is on fire. Out of Bitcoin, $125,000,000 now for a bitcoin. And here's huge news. Trump Media just had a massive $6.4 billion deal with Yorkville Acquisition Group and Crypto.com, the crypto platform trusted by millions of users worldwide. They're teaming up to acquire up to 6.4 billion in CRO, which is the token established as America's first CRO treasury. Trump Media Group CRO Strategy have acquired this and establishing this. Once completed, this new company will be the largest publicly traded CRO holder out there. So if you're ready to join the crypto revolution, head over to crypto.com today, be part of this historic move. That's crypto.com. don't wait. For more information on the proposed business combination, check out Yorkville Acquisition Corp's public filings. They are all public. All right, any good super chats we want to get to here? Anybody saying anything interesting that we want to read here? Let's see here. Townsend Brown noted a weight reduction effect in high voltage tubes as early as 1921. Active Guardian says T. Townsend Brown noted a weight reduction effect in high voltage tubes as early as 1921. So the history of American anti gravity is over 100 years old. Thank you for that.
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B
That sounds like a fun story to know.
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A
Yeah, I mean we have this anti gravitic technology and, and of course we have that Tic Tac. I mean this is literally from the Skunk Works. Philip, can you put that up again? The Tic Tac photo? Yeah. I mean look in the upper left hand corner. That's literally from Skunk Works in the flight manual of the Tic Tac. And of course CIA documentation there that's classified that has been released. So, you know, a lot of people didn't know, especially when they're off the uss, the USS Nimitz, David Fravor and those guys who were capturing the Tic Tac video, you know, Tic Tac flying that it was. Could it be alien? Well, certainly alien technology that's been reverse engineers by Lockheed Martin, Boeing and the like. So for sure. Any thoughts, questions, any feelings, any other breaking news you want to share?
- [78:21]
B
Breaking news Redacted will be on break next week. I think we should say that.
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A
Okay.
- [78:26]
B
That's breaking.
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A
Yeah, yeah, we won't have a live show next week. We'll be off.
- [78:29]
B
But we have so many things that we filmed for you, so I hope you'll come to the channel One I'm excited for you all to see with Dr. Ellie Phillips to talk about whether or not you need to get cavities replaced. Is that a whole scheme? Turns out there is a whole scheme behind you getting implants. So you're going to want to know this, because if you have cavities or if you've ever been to the dentist and they continue to medicalize your mouth, which 96% of us do, you're going to want to know this information. I'm super excited.
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A
And she's just delightful.
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B
She's delightful. Yeah. Her book is kiss your dentist goodbye. I'm slightly obsessed with her. She lets me text her now, and I try not to stop.
- [79:08]
A
Don't abuse it.
- [79:09]
B
I know. I'm really trying to.
- [79:10]
A
Don't abuse it. Also, yeah, we've got a big story on Kurt Cobain's murder. You might have thought that he committed suicide. Nothing could be further from the truth. We have this big bombshell of a story coming up next week here on the show, which we are going to reveal to you.
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B
I haven't seen that one yet.
- [79:28]
A
No. And you need to watch it because it's, I would say, jaw dropping.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So we're gonna. We'll have that as well. We've also got. What else do we have, Philip? We've got a couple of really big stories coming up here.
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B
There's someone we have coming up who has a homeopathic remedy to get the spike detoxed out of anyone who received the COVID vaccine. You're gonna want to know about this coming up. Clinical trials also.
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A
Yeah. What else do we have? Oh, we've a couple of big interviews, but one of which is. What's that? Well, I said one of them secret. One of them is secret, and I can't say anything about it. And I don't mean to be like, oh, it's secret. No, no, seriously, it is secret on purpose because something big is coming, and we are going to release the interview concurrent with something big happening because we know it's about to happen, and we're going to release that interview as soon as it happens, and we will make sure you know it. It's big. It's very big.
- [80:24]
F
Yeah.
- [80:24]
A
But just. Just to be clear, it's not like. It's not like. It's not illegal. So it's not.
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C
We're not.
- [80:29]
A
We're not like, you know, doing something illegal. Yeah, Just clarify. It's not the Justin Bieber story, right? I don't know about that. No, it has to do with deep state stuff.
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B
What is the Justin Bieber story? He took pictures of kids.
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A
Oh, I was just being facetious.
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B
I don't know what that is.
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A
There is no Justin Bieber story anymore. Yeah.
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D
Yeah.
- [80:51]
A
And some pretty incredible stories we've got. We'll have all of that for you. But yeah, we're gonna be off next week for a few days. No live show next week, but we'll have all that great content for you to be sure. So thank you guys so much for being here, being a part of our great community. We really appreciate it. Thanks for subscribing. It's free to subscribe. It's free to be a part of our community. We really appreciate it.
- [81:09]
B
And also someone in the chat says another vacation. I just, just want to let you know that the type of work that we do, we have to give our brains a lot of space from it or else we will get too dark. And also we do a lot of study on these breaks as well. We read a lot of books and make sure that we're, you know, current with. So we won't let you down. We do need to take these, these types of breaks. I don't want to justify.
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A
But you should never justify taking a few days off.
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B
Right.
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A
Like, I mean.
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B
Yeah. And our kids are off this week and so it helps us a lot to not work while they're home because that's too anxiety.
- [81:46]
A
No, when the kids are on break, that's an opportunity for us as a family to like, just spend some time together. So. And do whatever we want to do. Take a road trip or something. So.
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B
And we study very hard to deserve you. So if you will allow us this and please come back. We'll be back on October 20, within which incidentally is our wedding anniversary. When we come back on the 20th, it will be the day that we'll have been married for 115 years.
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C
Yeah.
- [82:12]
A
Best 115 years of her life.
- [82:15]
B
Minus 100. It will actually be our 15th anniversary. So come back on Monday, the 20th. We'll be here.
- [82:21]
A
She was a lonely idiot until she met this. She met this great guy. Hey, go Phillies starts in eight. I think it starts in eight minutes. And so I'm going to enjoy seeing if they can actually beat the Dodgers.
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B
Okay.
- [82:33]
A
So I'm going to enjoy a little baseball.
- [82:34]
B
Duck the fodgers. I say because I'm a Giants fan, always duck the fodgers.
- [82:38]
A
Go Phillies. All right, guys. Have a great afternoon, everyone. Thank you guys so much for dialing us up. And we'll see you real soon.