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What is daddication?
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The thing that drives me every day as a dad is Dariona. We call him dae date for short. Every day he's hungry for something, whether it's attention, affection, knowledge. And there's this huge responsibility in making sure that when he's no longer under my wing that he's a good person. I want him to be able to sit back one day and go, we worked together. We did a good job.
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Clayton Morris
Wake up, everybody. Welcome into redacted on this. What did it say? Tuesday, June 10, I'm Clayton Morris.
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Clayton Morris
So glad to have you here on this show, we cover the stories the mainstream media largely ignores, and we try to follow the truth wherever it takes us. We have no agenda. And on the show today, we're gonna look at the LA riots. They've gotten worse. And liberals are continuing to say that these are peaceful protests. Maxine Waters said, hey, she was on the streets. She was there on the streets, and it was all peaceful. Okay, tell that to the LAPD headquarters, which was just attacked and smashed in overnight. And the mortar rounds that are being fired at police officers as we speak. We're gonna talk about that in just moments.
Unknown
Plus, we're gonna talk about Syria because, hey, we got away with it. The US has been illegally occupying Syria since 2014, since Obama was in office. But, hey, it's all good now because we are gonna formalize. We're gonna get a lease on that. Basically, we've been squashing. But the Syrian government, now that we've instigated a coup, says, all good. Here's a lease. What does that mean? Probably more troops in Syria, most likely. We're gonna talk to CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou about that.
Clayton Morris
Also, James Fox, UFO documentarian, is going to be joining us. He's working on a new UFO documentary, but we asked him to take some time out to talk about this Wall Street Journal piece today on the show. So James is going to be joining us a little bit later in the show. So before we get to all of that, we want to tell you about our friends over at book profits because could some extra money. Who couldn't? Right. Well, you're gonna love this because you probably have something in your home right now that can make you thousands of dollars. What is it? Books. Physical used books. Now I'm not talking about reading those books. I'm not telling you to become an author. That's actually very, very difficult. I'm talking about selling used books online for profit. That might not sound exciting, but it sure is profitable. And it's a very simple thing to do. People are successful making life changing amounts of money and income with this because it doesn't take a lot of money, time or technical skills. And it can be done on your own schedule, all online from the comfort of your own home anywhere in the world. The best thing is you don't even have to have books in your home to do it. That's right. If you're interested in learning more about this, there's a short training video that shows you exactly how you can profit by selling used books online. And the best part is the training starts today and it's free. Simply go to bookprofits.com redacted to watch the training Again, book profits.com redacted to watch that training video. And there's a QR code there on the screen which you can use as well. Well, the anti ice riots in Los Angeles are entering a pivotal moment right now. President Trump has authorized the deployment of U.S. marines to help quell the violence. Meanwhile, who's funding these riots and rioters? Videos emerged yesterday of black unmarked cars arriving in the middle of the riots to hand out expensive riot masks to the protesters. Who's paying for that? It's really interesting. Just pulled up here, all the boxes for riot masks. Here you go. And they knew where to meet them, by the way. It's all very coordinated. And as lawyer Lauren Powell pointed out, One of the NGOs organizing the riots got $34 million in government grants from the state of California just last year alone. Take a look at this. This is the Coalition for Human Immigration Rights, just one of the groups. Look at that, $33 million. That's. There are many more to name, by the way. I've gone through like a lot of these NGOs today, looking at their backgrounds and data. I mean, liberals are calling these peaceful protests. I wonder who Organized these peaceful protesters to storm an Apple Store overnight in la. Loot everything. They're so peace. Grab those iPhones, grab those iPads, rip them out of the table. The thing is that these morons don't realize is that as soon as those things leave the Apple Store, Apple bricks those devices so they no longer work. But, hey, guess people want to keep looting Apple Stores. Apple knows exactly what these people do, so they shut them off immediately and they're unusable. Okay. Or these nice folks smashing the windows of LAPD headquarters. Now, you'll recall, I mean, if you just, like, take your C port, smash the windows again. Yeah, that's LAPD headquarters. It's ironic, of course, isn't it, that one day before that, the LAPD sent out a press release calling the protesters peaceful. Here's that press release. Today, demonstrations across the city of Los Angeles remained peaceful. And we commend all those who exercise their First Amendment rights responsibly. The LA Police Department appreciates the cooperation of organizers, participants, and community partners who helped ensure public safety throughout the day. Of course, then they smashed up the LAPD headquarters. I'm sure they're still peaceful. Go ahead, Phil.
Unknown
I missed the part where stealing iPhones was my First Amendment right. I have to go reread the Constitution.
I guess they upset it.
Clayton Morris
Yes. You didn't know that? Well, it's a phone and it makes phone calls, so. Therefore, phone calls are a freedom of speech. So I guess you can just go into an Apple Store and just steal phones, according to the LAPD now, I guess. Oh, by the way, I know. Protesters overnight launching mortar rounds at law enforcement. Perfectly normal behavior for peaceful protesters. Look at these peaceful guys. I mean, literally using, like, trash can. It looks like something out of the 1980s, doesn't it? Like, oh, my God, like, using trash cans and dumpsters as protection, like, you know, and firing off, like, mortar rounds at these people at law enforcement. Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass says her city was peaceful until Trump got involved with all these ICE raids. She says it's time to end the ICE raids on illegals. We need to stop the raids. This should not be happening in our city. It is not warranted, and it does any.
Unknown
The only thing it does is contribute to chaos.
Clayton Morris
This was chaos that was started in Washington, D.C. on Thursday. The city was peaceful on Friday. It was not because of the intervention of the federal government.
Unknown
Yeah, she has a real problem with cause and effect. Like fire. Conditions equal fire. That's new to her. Right, Right. Criminality equals destruction. Yeah, I really need to take her back to Economics 101 about cause and effect.
Clayton Morris
She has a lot to learn. So it's apparently Trump's fault that people smashed the LAPD headquarters, they set cars on fire, they looted Apple stores, they're firing mortar rounds. Let's bring in someone who knows more about the disaster in California that is the dis of California itself than just about anyone. He's written a book on it. Chris Moritz is the author of Failed A Portrait of California in the Twilight of Empire. Look at the top of the book there. Our friend of the show, Tucker Carlson, says, what a remarkable book. Chris, welcome to the show. Great to have you here.
Chris Moritz
Thank you. Good to be with you.
Clayton Morris
So in your book, you talk about a breakdown of law and order and how progressive policies essentially have basically prioritized the criminal over the victims, how the California government even prioritizes cartels over California citizens, which is stunning to me. So I guess my first question, Chris, is how much of what we're seeing right now in Los Angeles is deliberate liberal government policy versus bureaucratic failure. Oh, the bureaucracy just broke down here. Like, how much of this was deliberate?
Chris Moritz
I don't think you can separate the mismanagement from the ideology. The ideology leads to mismanagement, mismanagement leads to the ideology. It's completely cyclical. And it's not even necessarily the, the ultimate truth about why this is happening, why these policies are in place, why these ideologies exist in the first place. Because ultimately, I think this is a question of power. It's about entrenchment. And so even the, the, the notion of progressive or, or conservative, Democrat, Republican, it does not really apply to the disaster that we're seeing. What we're seeing is a rogue.
Unknown
Lawless.
Chris Moritz
One party machine for which there is no single person that is responsible. Neither Gavin nor Mayor Bass. They are, they are cogs in this machine. And this machine is about total control, in a CCP style way, fashion, certainly heading in that direction. And they have achieved this control primarily through demographic engineering that took place beginning in the 1990s and accelerated the consolidation of the Democratic Party in the state of California. That was once at least a purple state, but now we have, since 2012, every single, or both chambers of the legislature and every single statewide office is held by the Democratic Party. So in that kind of milieu, ideology is likely to run amok. Corruption is likely to happen, mismanagement is likely to happen. So all of these things are, are converging on the kinds of disasters we're seeing playing out right now in downtown Los Angeles, but of course also even more dramatically in the palace its fire.
Unknown
Now the police chief admitted that they had been overrun before the federal government ever stepped in. Now I saw your appearance on Tucker Carlson a couple months ago and I showed it to my kids and I said the reason you cannot go to college in California even if you want to, even if they recruit you, is because the police there cannot protect anybody. And so can we talk about who the actual victims are here? Because there will be, just like we saw in chop, there will be, you know, people who are entrepreneurs whose property is completely destroyed and have to rely on insurance. There are now neighborhoods, low income neighborhoods where people are, you know, running amok, destroying property. People are unsafe. California lawmakers do not care about the victim of anything really.
Chris Moritz
Yeah, well they care about their own power and they care about the maintenance of that power in perpetuity. But as far as keeping people safe, look, I talked to a lot of cops from all different levels of experience when I was writing this book. Over 30 hours of primary interviews. And a director from the LAPD union put it very bluntly to me. He says, he tells everyone, don't come to la, we cannot protect you. He lives in Ventura county to the north. Many cops do because it has become a lawless, dangerous place where you are more likely to get robbed, burglarized, carjacked and beaten up than any other place in the entire country and in some cases by double. So it's not working. And it's not going to work because the entrenched parties, powers do not have anything to gain from that. They feed off the chaos. They there's no consequence in terms of electorally of course, and in some cases there's even financial aspects that kind of incentivize the continuation of the status quo. And even the chaos as we're going to see in the Palisades as developers move into that, to that space and put in, sorry, put in multi unit family housing, which is a long term goal of the kind of the so called green cult in California.
Clayton Morris
Wow, that's a story I hadn't heard in all of this. But it makes absolute sense as part of this agenda. People in a chat room. G Fontes says there have been plenty of free bricks and cinder blocks left out all over Los Angeles, some left on pallets in the middle of roads. We've seen the funding of these protests and organizing of these protests coming out, massive amounts of money behind this, a lot of NGOs, almost too many to count. Before you joined us. I rattled off just a few that I mentioned here. Some receiving upwards of $33 million in funding, some of it with federal dollars, some of it purely on raising that money on their own in order to carry out these protests. We see there are more protests scheduled for June 14, Big no Kings protests as well. So who's behind this, do you suspect?
Chris Moritz
So that is the key question. And with respect to what's taking place right now, I would simply be offering theories. But I can tell you that the answer to this is to look back to 2020 and the George Floyd BLM riots and protests in Los Angeles. It is very clear that the protesters who came into the city and the rioters that came into areas that were previously kind of untouched, like the west side and areas like Santa Monica, where I live, that are not typically exposed to that kind of mayhem, but during that summer were literally firebombs. Santa Monica was firebombed. Police stood down, of course, but the question is like, where were those people coming from? A lot of them were coming from out of state. A lot of them were paid anarchist. A lot of them were very well funded. And we do know that institutions as well as like the financier like George Soros, but others have funded these entities directly, but also indirectly through political Campaigns related to DA's and George Haskone and so forth. So this is not a kind of organic event that we're seeing. And I think it's important also to distill the exactly who is sort of committing this, this violence right now. And it's not just simply gangs, although there is an element of that for sure. But it's also a alliance of anarchists from, from out of state, illegal aliens just in generally aggrieved, and then also illegal alien gangs that are all themselves proxies of the Mexican drug cartels which control the criminal economy. And organized crime in the state of California, have done so for the last ten years at least.
Unknown
Now, something Michael Shellenberger said today while observing this, and he is a journalist who has been covering California's authoritarian breakdown for years, is that the government is both permissive, meaning you can steal, you can live on the streets, you can poop in someone's yard, you can. My father's a business owner and he said, I can't stop people from using the hose on our property in California. In California, they take showers there, like fully naked in his front of his landscape. You know, I can't stop them. The police will not stop them. But then they're authoritarian in other Ways you can't enter a restaurant without a COVID vaccine. Or that's how it was. You need permits for this, that and the other. So in other ways, it's a banana republic. So can you speak to how they are both purposefully permissive and authoritarian?
Yeah.
Chris Moritz
So I think that in terms of the aggrandizement of criminals in California and the diffusion, it seems purposefully diffusion of crime across the city and out of its sort of natural hubs and kind of historic hubs, this has been particularly acute since the 2020 events. This is perpetuated because behind all of this are policies that have been pushed in place in Sacramento relating to the criminal justice reform movement, advocated very strongly out of Stanford University. And behind that, which is the idea of addressing historical racial discrepancies in jailing and so forth, there is a much darker ideology that I could only describe as crime equity, which is the idea that crime would be used, or I should say leniency in criminal prosecution, which had a foreseeable result of allowing criminals to have a direct impact on communities and not be in jail. This is about redistributing violence in the name of redressing racial grievances. So in other words, the equity agenda. And this is not a new phenomenon. It's been used many times by leftist regimes in. In modern history, employing literally criminals to sort of aggrandize and perpetuate the revolution. Like that is what is taking place. And. And so we have, you know, in California, both a kind of an oligarchy aristocracy represented very much by Gavin Newsom, who's their avatar. And then we have, you know, in Sacramento, a, you know, extreme radicals pursuing really lunatic ideas, and somehow the kind of moneyed interests and these people converge. And I think that is where we kind of find the ultimate like, question and to all of this, why is that? Why is California's elite advancing these kinds of policies that are foreseeably resulting in so much damage and violence?
Clayton Morris
How much did Kamala Harris have to do with this destruction of California?
Chris Moritz
Well, you know, as I sort of always add as a caveat to this, is that there's no single person responsible for all of this mam. And disaster. There are many actors in the. In the process and in the machine that have gotten us here. And Kamala Harris certainly did a lot of damage. And I can give you some very specific examples. But it would be. It would be a. It would not be accurate to suggest that she is, you know, she's really the person with their finger on the. On the trigger relating to what we're seeing, what she did do as attorney general starting in 2011 was she advocated and advanced policies related to decriminalization and the criminal justice reform movement that have gotten us to this point where california is so violent and so dangerous, especially to ordinary people. Cops would tell me that the 90s were really violent in L. A. But in particular, but california in general. But today it may not be quite as violent in terms of homicides and kind of those sorts of metrics. But the difference is that the violence has been turned against all of us. That is, you know, law abiding citizens living in nice neighborhoods. It's been turned against all of us all the time because the criminals have been unleashed and empowered by acts of leniency and policies that people like kamala harris have advanced. Kamala harris even disbanded a hundred year old narcotics enforcement bureau in the state of california formed after prohibition that was doing really important work at tackling the cartel influence. And yet, of course, she claims to be the cartel prosecutor. It's laughable.
Unknown
Yes, absolutely. Well, thank you for your time. Again, the book is failed state a portrait of california and the twilight of empire. And again, more research on why we will not send our children to college in california and why none of this is surprising and has been in the works for a very long time. So thank you for your time. Thank you for coming on redacted today.
Clayton Morris
Thanks, chris. You know, I think one of the larger points here too is that it's not just confined to california. I mean, it is spreading. And you're seeing the same sort of cancer that california has created spreading to other. I mean, it's funny that in minnesota they were fine with like tim waltz using the national guard to make sure that people stayed in their homes during COVID lockdowns. But now when the national guard is called in to stop violence, liberals are crying about it and really upset about it.
Unknown
Right. And we're gonna see this play out for months and years now. These just oppositions of what liberals think is a protest January 6th versus a riot. What is happening this week, this is gonna continue. This is the gift that keeps on giving. And there are many angles to look at right now as it continues.
Clayton Morris
Coming up on the show, CIA whistleblower john kiriakou is going to be joining us. We're going to talk about how the united states is getting off scot free in south syria, the illegal occupation of syria. I mean, john knows more about this region than just about anybody. And john's going to be joining Us. Remember what Obama did to him? We're going to talk about that. Plus we're also going to talk about this UFO cover up. James Fox documentarian and what the Wall Street Journal published this weekend. Basically saying all of these like, you know, craft that you're seeing and all of these like anti gravitational stuff that you're seeing out there. Don't worry about it. It's all just US secret government projects. It has nothing to do with any sort of extraterrestrials, anything like that at all. And so we're gonna talk with James about that.
Unknown
But first also I wanna tell you that we're gonna talk about the New York Times getting off scot free for defamation. Why did they get off? But ABC has to pay President Trump for defamation. That doesn't make sense, right? Yet another reason to hate the mainstream media. We need no prompting for that. But we are gonna talk about it.
Clayton Morris
What Lily Beans in our chat says, I'm disappointed that you guys can't see the manufactured mayhem that's happening in California. I guess you're referring to California. Well, I think we just did a whole segment on how it's manufactured. I mean didn't we, we just pointed out all of the, the funding and the NGO protests and how, and these people that don't even live in that area literally are coming in from out of the area in order to create this, create this chaos. I think we just did an entire segment about that, if I'm not mistaken. Unless I wasn't here for that.
Unknown
Yeah. All right, well we're not gonna do it again. But we will. Like I said, these protests are the gift that keep giving because we have a lot to talk about liberal policies failing real people. So we'll do more tomorrow, I'm sure.
Clayton Morris
More highlights about liberal policies.
Unknown
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Clayton Morris
Well, they have. It's a little more than 24. Yeah, a little bit more. It's not quite 48 at this moment.
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Clayton Morris
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Unknown
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Clayton Morris
What is Daddication?
Natalie Morris
The thing that drives me every day as a dad is Dariona. We call him Day Date for short. Every day he's hungry for something, whether it's attention, affection, knowledge. And there's this huge responsibility in making sure that when he's no longer under my wing that he's a good person. I want him to be able to sit back one day and go, we worked together. We did a good job.
Clayton Morris
That's dedication.
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Right, we got good news. Americans. We got away with our illegal occupation of Syria. Good for us. No consequences. We are invincible. Who else should we invade? Since that went so well? Well, just a reminder, the US has been illegally occupying Syria since, But now that regime change has softened things up for us, we're suddenly on friendlier terms. Washington wants to make that official. The New Arab reports that a senior U.S. delegation is set to arrive in Damascus in the coming days to sign an agreement with the Syrian government to formalize the U.S. presence, the military presence marking a significant shift in U.S. policy. So this would be retroactive, meaning we'll just pretend it was cool that we were there all along, even though it was not. This is a textbook pivot being framed as a step towards legitimacy, but really a way to cement US Influence in Syria, ensuring that the ease that we have easy access to strategic territory, trade routes, oil. Remember President Trump during his first term saying we just wanted to keep them from having the oil, keep it for ourselves. So yeah, we got away with it. All good, all good. No accountability, no reckoning. Not even a slap on the wrist for the chaos, the displacement, the suffering that the United States has enacted on Syria Since. Well, if we're really gonna. It's not just the Obama years. We gotta rewind the clock all the way to the 1949 CIA backed coup. Former CIA agent and whistleblower John Kiriakou joins us to discuss because he has been talking about this for a long time. So up top. All good.
Clayton Morris
Yeah.
Unknown
We got away with it.
Clayton Morris
Yeah.
Unknown
Does this feel good? Should we take a victory lap?
Clayton Morris
Who else should we invade?
Unknown
Winning.
John Kiriakou
I know, right? We're going to have. We're going to have 2,000 troops freed up. We could now invade pretty much anybody we want. I will say a couple of things have surprised me about this. First of all, have you seen it anywhere in the American media? Because I haven't and I look for it. It was the Turks who leaked this story five days ago with no following statement from the Pentagon. So the Turks are the ones that are saying, hey, you know, the Americans are engaged in discussions with the new Syrian government. Those discussions are taking place in Ankara. And what it looks like is going to happen is that the US Is going to withdraw except for one small base which we may keep just one person on one person. Just to say that there is a US presence in Syria, which is nuts to me. But the bottom line is what you just said, right?
Clayton Morris
Sign me up for that job.
John Kiriakou
No problems protecting yourself when you're the only American in an isolated base in southeastern Syria.
Unknown
So when you have been murdering civilians from that base for a decade.
John Kiriakou
You are exactly right. You're exactly right. I was having a conversation with a friend earlier today about the illegality of sending combat troops overseas without approval from Congress. And you know, when you think about it, this is an impeachable offense that has been committed by every single president since Harry Truman. Every single president. The last time the US Congress declared war was on December 8, 1941, the day after the bombing of Pearl Harbor. But the constitution is very clear. If we are going to engage in war, it has to be after a vote in Congress and we just don't bother. You know, Congress has attempted half measures over the years. You know, they'll do authorizations for use of force. Those are just resolutions. They don't have the impact of law. They just pretend that the president is not sending troops. Or they talk about approving on a budgetary basis, an appropriations basis, enough to feed and clothe and arm the troops. But that's not the same as a declaration of war. So now we're gonna withdraw these combat troops from Syria. They should never have been there in the first place. But are we bringing them home? Remember, this hasn't been reported by the US Government. It's the Turks telling us what the Americans are doing. Are we going to send them to Somalia or to the Sahel where we already have other combat troops, or are they actually coming home? We don't know.
Unknown
Well, what we've been seeing is that Israel is starting to step up attacks on Syria. So maybe we want to get the heck out of there. Is there an angle there and sort of let them have at it?
John Kiriakou
There very well could be. The conventional wisdom was that the Israelis and the Turks were the big winners in the fall of Bashar al Assad. Everybody agreed that that was the case. They were the big winners. And you remember in the immediate couple of days after Assad's overthrow, the Israelis went in, they pushed in past Golan, just a couple of miles, and everybody said, oh, well, you know, they shouldn't have done that. But we understand that the Israelis probably want to have a little bit of a buffer zone. Well, listen, there's nothing in international law that says you can have a buffer zone, number one. Number two, the Israelis never said that they were going to stop there and have a buffer zone since then. And it's been a couple of months now, they have repeatedly bombed Syrian territory, including inside the city of Damascus. And it looks like that's going to be the Israeli policy now, that nothing is going to change with the Israelis as far as military attacks on Syria. So it could be, and forgive me if this sounds a little bit conspiratorial, but it could be that the US doesn't see an upside to being in the middle between the Israelis and the new Syrian government. So it's better just to leave.
Clayton Morris
You know, Matt Gaetz, Congressman Matt Gaetz was on the floor of Congress before he left Congress pushing to get us out of Syria. He was, he was sort of vilified by all those neocons in Washington who wanted to continue this war. We were giving him huge rounds of applause. We're an anti war show and we can't stand neocons and so pushing to get them out of Syria, bring our troops home. He was vilified for it. Of course, that didn't pass. But the argument they used, John, as you know, was that it would undermine the United States of America. It would make the United States of America less secure. That's what they told us if we brought these forces home. You saw it all over social media. Matt Gaetz. No, no, this will make us less secure here in the United States, how is that possible?
John Kiriakou
Right. It's an incredible faulty analysis to me. First of all, if you want to occupy a country like Syria, and I don't know why you would want to occupy a country like Syria, you're going to need four, maybe 500,000 troops, not 2,000 troops. The reason why we sent 2,000 troops during the Obama administration was very, was very simply to counter the Russian presence. We didn't have any reason to be in Syria other than to stick our thumb in the eye of the Russians. Now the Russians, of course, had been invited into Syria by the Syrian government. Well, now the Russians are gone and there's no reason to be in Syria anymore. And so I think that's the calculation that has been made. This had nothing to do with violence, it had nothing to do with war, it had nothing to do with terrorism. ISIS has gone from Syria. It's been gone for a long time. This had to do with saving face.
Unknown
Right. Stephen Gowen's great book called Washington's Long War on Syria goes back to Bashar Al Assad's father and how the United States hated him because he was an Arab nationalist, meaning he thought that Arabs should build things for themselves. They should, because Syria doesn't have a ton of oil. They have oil, but not a ton, considering when you compare it to their neighbors. But they thought that Arab money should be used for Arab prosperity. And we could not have that. And that's why we've always set our sights on imploding Syria. And what do you think of that?
John Kiriakou
I think that is exactly right. You know, we danced with, with Hafez al Assad, Bashar al Assad's father, a couple of times. And things were especially good during the Gulf War in 1990, 91, because the George H.W. bush administration convinced the Syrians to, to send a couple of hundred troops to, to Kuwait to help liberate the country. So it was all good. But you're right, Arab nationalism has always frightened the United States and it's always frightened the Gulf Arabs because they're royalists, they're all run by royal families. And so this idea that a country like Syria could maybe join with a country like Egypt, which they did, they changed the name briefly to the United Arab Republic. They merged as one country that just panicked the west because they were non aligned. And in Washington, if you're not in line, that used to mean you're really secretly with the Soviets. And it panicked the Saudis and the Kuwaitis, the Bahrainis at all because they were anti Royalist. Well, now here we are all these years later and the Saudis are finally willing to establish diplomatic relations with Syria. Why? Because the assads are gone and there is a former leader of ISIS and al Qaeda now running the country. That.
Unknown
So if we take off the scariest ones, right, there was Gaddafi, there was Saddam Hussein and there were the assads. We got them. Those were people who wanted prosperity for their own nations and we thwarted that.
Clayton Morris
So Hillary Clinton, as Hillary Clinton said, we came, we saw, we killed Gaddafi. Yeah.
Unknown
So the neocons are high fiving themselves over this and the rest of us can just feel absolutely horrid in our stomach for what we did to those civilians. That's how I feel about it. I want to puke.
Clayton Morris
John, I got to ask you. We had a Syrian journalist friend of the show, Kevork el Masian, on the show many, many times. But Kevork told us after the fall of Assad and the takeover by Jelani and all of this and this basically CIA backed coup that led to this whole thing, I said, do you think Syria will exist any longer? And he said, I'm sad to say I don't think Syria will exist anymore. You have the Turks to the north. You have Israel. Do you think, what does the future of Syria look like to you?
John Kiriakou
I think Syria will continue to exist, but perhaps not looking exactly the way it has always looked. The Turks are there to stay. They're going to be there forever. They talk about a buffer zone. They talk about wanting to work with the Syrian Kurds. They can't work with the Syrian Kurds. They don't. They don't. They're not able to work with any Kurds. Turkish Kurds, Iraqi Kurds, Iranian Kurds, Syrian Kurds. Makes no difference. The Turks hate the Kurds. So they're going to keep this buffer zone. The Israelis apparently intend to remain as occupiers even if it's not allotted territory. The Israelis are not going to leave Syria. And there still are areas of Syria where there are armed bands of Muslim fundamentalists. And so, you know, God forbid that the. That the Iraqis decide they need a buffer zone, for example, then what do we do? And then Lebanon is falling apart. What does it mean for the border between Lebanon and Syria? So I think Syria will continue to exist, but maybe not exactly the way it looks today.
Clayton Morris
Our guest is John Kiriakou, someone who knows this area better than just about anyone. Always appreciate your insights, John, for keeping in mind.
John Kiriakou
My pleasure.
Unknown
We have a comment right now that says, who cares about Syria, I mean, okay, we kill people there, John.
Clayton Morris
Why should we care about Syria?
John Kiriakou
Yeah, because Syria is a key to stability in the greater Middle East. You know, it's bad for everybody when governments are not viable. You mentioned Syria's oil. They have just a little bit of oil, enough for themselves, not really enough to export. But it's in America's interest for the Syrians to have a self sustaining economy, for example, because when people are able to make a living, they don't turn to religion as an opiate. They don't, they're not easily radicalized. They don't seek to, to leave the country and go overseas where they could be radicalized. We need for the Syrians to, to be able to build an economy that keeps Syrians in Syria and everybody happy.
Unknown
Right, thank you.
Clayton Morris
Right. And when you had Assad, they're able to control these more fundamentalist sects and be able to keep, you know, so that you didn't have that spilling over. Yeah. I mean, then, you know, you saw. Over the past 24 hours, actually the past six hours, John, we see head of Al Qaeda calling for the assassination of President Trump. That's right. Before we get you out of here, your comments on that, saying that we need to. These, I guess Muslim radicals need to rise up and now assassinate President Trump. This is coming from the head of Al Qaeda.
John Kiriakou
That was a very alarming report when it first came out. But you have to look at what Al Qaeda is right now. The Al Qaeda that he represents is, is the core Al Qaeda. It has. I'm going to go out on a limb and say a few dozen core members, they have no access to President Trump. I think the bigger threat to US Interests is Al Qaeda in the Sahel, in Africa. Places like Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Burkina Faso, even parts of Ghana and Nigeria. It's exceedingly dangerous there now. And a lot of those governments are in danger of falling. That could draw the United States in. It's not a direct threat to President Trump, but in terms of a threat to President Trump, I think really that's all talk.
Clayton Morris
Someone in the chat says, why is that, Clayton? Because we effed around over there for the last hundred years. Cut the bullshit. We don't belong there. Hallelujah.
Unknown
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly like they always. Yeah, they sell us lies.
Clayton Morris
Exactly.
Unknown
Through Sirius. So we need to constantly have this exercise and we see you. We don't believe this shit.
John Kiriakou
We don't. You don't believe it. That's right.
Unknown
Yeah. All right. Thank you for this, John. Always a Pleasure to have you.
Clayton Morris
Thanks, John. Good to see you both. All right. Great to see you as well, John. All right. Coming up here on the show, we are going to talk about this UFO cover up. James Fox is going to be joining us. Documentarian, he's been working on a new documentary and we had to pull him away from an editing session just to get him in the show for a few minutes to talk about that. So we're going to talk with James here in a moment. Yeah.
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Clayton Morris
Yes, I'm very regular.
Unknown
Definitely yes.
Clayton Morris
No, I take is people like do Clayton, do you take that? Yes, I take it. I take it every day. I have it. Like, you bought me one of those big like supplement vitamin things. Things with the little flip up lids.
Unknown
Yes. You know, so because I'm an organized.
Clayton Morris
Geek and my, my 8 year old daughter, I sat her down for like 30 minutes the other night. I had her reload my whole thing. So she's like, okay, vitamin D. I got the kimchi in there. So all of it. All of it.
Unknown
All right. I. I was gonna say I made a big pot of like, like roast, like a beef roast a couple days ago in the crock pot. And it was like, this is great. And then my daughter has been eating that on rice with, with radish kimchi. It's daikon radish. That's what it's like these layers of daikon radish, like made like kimchi. And so the other night I come in, she's like, she's just chowing down on it. She's like, I've had this the past five meals and I'm not getting sick.
Clayton Morris
Of it at all.
Unknown
Yeah, it's so good for you. It's so good.
Clayton Morris
Threshold in our chat says the meat diet stops gas instantly. That's actually true. I don't know if you guys know that. So when I used to work at Fox in Los Angeles, there was a woman there, she worked in kind of the tape room, which was like an enclosed glass room. And she was like a vegan vegetarian. And people warned me when I first started working there to like, be careful cause she's a vegetarian. If you go in there, it's just gonna. Just bad gas. Like all she does is just like. And I was like, oh, no. So every time I had to go get a tape for the show, I just would like kind of go in there, I'd be like, hold my breath and be like, hi, Janice, I need number 1565. I'll just wait outside for it. Slippers of meat. Yeah, give her a meat diet and that'll fix that real fast.
Unknown
Okay.
Clayton Morris
All right. Is James here yet?
Unknown
I think he's not.
Clayton Morris
Is James here?
Unknown
He needs a few more.
Clayton Morris
What's that?
Unknown
Yeah, he needs about five minutes. Five minutes.
Clayton Morris
Five minutes.
Unknown
Okay, well, I'm gonna tell you what we're gonna talk about last then we'll tell you that we're gonna talk about this UFO cover story coming up soon. And then we're gonna talk about how the New York Times got off scot free defaming Justin Baldoni. Now don't roll your eyes. Oh, Justin Baldoni, Blake Lively. I know they're dickheads, but we're gonna talk about why the mainstream media was complicit in this faux feminism and why you should care about that. Why do you think did the New York Times get away with this? They didn't do any journalism at all. They did not. Definitely. You shouldn't trust them pretty much ever.
Clayton Morris
Right.
Unknown
But why did ABC have to settle a case with Donald Trump for defamation when the New York Times didn't? Why do you think that is?
Clayton Morris
I don't know. Well, I mean, I guess when you have certain news organizations that are absolutely connected to the intelligence state and, and they are mouthpieces of like the Wall street, the Washington Post, the New York Times. They are extensions of the deep state.
Unknown
Yeah.
Clayton Morris
And maybe that's, you know, they're sort of told just like Jeffrey Epstein. Like, go easy on them.
Unknown
Right.
Clayton Morris
Go easy on them. They're intelligence.
Chris Moritz
Right.
Clayton Morris
That's what the prosecutor in the Jeffrey Epstein case was told and reported. You know, hey, go easy on him. He's in his intelligence. Maybe that's what the New York Times gets away with of crap.
Unknown
Yeah.
Clayton Morris
On a regular basis.
Unknown
And sorry I said D heads because I know we stream on television and sometimes I try not to say those things. I apologize. When we talk about Hollywood elites. I should have warned you. I also said the sh word when we were talking about the lies about the Syria. So I will go wash my mouth.
Clayton Morris
Please do that. Supreme Steve in our chat says Candace Owens is always talking about this. Lol. Yeah, she loves talking about it.
Unknown
I guess she's got the nuance of the case. I want to talk about the media angle. I was really hoping that the New York Times would have to pay for this and they're not gonna. And I hate it. But you know. Yeah. The New York Times did, you know, started as a paper that was specifically being sold to elites. They wanted to exclude the working class and that's why. So that they could sell ads for like high end watches and high end jewelry and things like that. So they always were trying to prove. Whereas the Pulitzer papers were known as the pennies. Right. They were read by the working class. They specifically covered stories for the working class. The New York Times was developed. The entire business model was elitism. So it should not surprise us. Anyhow, we will get to that story in a minute.
Clayton Morris
Mack Wallace Arbitration Service says does Redacted get its story ideas from Candace? No, no. This is a pretty big national story. But Candace has been Covering, like, the nuances of, like, the Blake Lively angle of it, back and forth, text messages with Taylor Swift and all of that. This is more about the. The media side. Old bag says, I appreciate you speaking your mind, Natalie, just not in front of the children.
Unknown
Sorry, sorry. I appreciate. I'm sorry. Well taken.
Clayton Morris
Mark Gottlieb says, lost time on this channel, they can't be helped. Sorry about that.
Unknown
What does that mean?
Clayton Morris
I don't know what that means, but who knows exactly. Maybe they're on a time travel movie. All right, we got James yet? We're waiting on James Fox to come in here.
Unknown
Still waiting on him.
Yep.
Clayton Morris
We could move on to our next segment, but he's got a heart out in like 10 minutes, so we can't really move on until he's here. So unfortunately, we're sort of stuck in a loop at the moment. What questions do you guys have for James Fox? We want to talk to him about, obviously, what this UFO story from the Wall Street Journal over the past weekend. But I would love to hear your questions for James. Put them in the chat room. Now, obviously, he's been covering this for many, many years. Multiple incredible documentaries that he's done over the years. The Moment of Contact, the phenomenon, of course, and he's working on a new one right now as well. So just let me know your comments on that, any questions you have. All right.
Unknown
Do we have any super chats we can. Yeah, we'll take your questions or we'll take your super chats.
Clayton Morris
If you've got Jim Dandy. Thank you for the $5 memberships. Steve Lilly says, where are all the aliens in Canada? Hidden, non existent, or just in Parliament? That's a good question. Ask James about the time he met an alien. Did he? I don't know if he did. Murder Diesel says, clayton, get control of your woman. Lol. Dennis says, hey, Redact. Do you guys watch other social media news programs? We don't have a lot of time for that because we've got three kids, and so we don't really have a lot of time for that.
Unknown
What does that mean? Like, what other channels do we watch?
Clayton Morris
We all watch a lot of Tucker.
Unknown
Yeah, I watch Glenn Greenwald every day pretty much. Yeah, I watch. Yeah, I watch a lot of different things.
Clayton Morris
Yeah. Very few people that I trust in this business. And I know, sadly, I know too much about this business. For instance, there's like, conservative publications that are independent media publications who will refuse to run certain stories because it sort of violates a certain narrative like that to me is no bueno. And these are like independent media groups and stuff. So there's not a lot that I trust. You know, we worked in the mainstream media for many, many years. And. And when you see this, how the sausage is made, that's why no one tells us what to say. We do any. We do the stories we want to do here on the show. And so, you know, we don't have billionaires funding us telling us what to say. We don't have over, you know, overlords telling us what to say. So I honestly, there's very few people that I trust. I mean, Tucker and maybe and like Glenn Greenwald. That's really, you know, from like, on, like, large, large scale, you know, journalists. I would say in the gray zone, too. Gray zone is great. Gray zone. Our friend Max, you know, our friends Max Blumenthal over there, Aaron Mate, David Crayton up in Canada, you know, and like, you just saw like, John Kiriakou from Unified TV and stuff like that. But I'm talking like the big, you know, big names that you might have heard of that are out there, like Tucker and. And so forth. Yeah.
Unknown
All right, so let's see. Should we talk about.
Clayton Morris
Is he in now? I just. Okay, he's not in. Okay, you know what? Let's do this other story. How long do you think that story will take? Is that like a 15 minute story?
Unknown
Probably five to ten.
Clayton Morris
Five to ten is perfect. Okay, so then let's do that. So if it's about a five minute story, that's perfect because then that'll put us right at 3pm and then we can bring in James. So why don't we do that?
Unknown
Okay. Why did the New York Times get away with defamation against Justin Baldoni, but President Trump was able to sue abc? This is yet another reason to loathe the New York Times, which I needed no prompting for. Now, a federal judge just dismissed Justin Baldoni's case against Blake Lively and the New York Times, meaning the Times won't face any accountability for what to me was very clearly a coordinated hit job on Justin Baldoni and a power grab by the MeToo movement. Fake feminism on behalf of Blake Lively. Now, before you say ugh. About covering another Blake Lively case, hear me out. I don't care much about Blake Lively, but I do think she weaponized feminism for personal gain and was not a victim of anything other than her own narcissism. Which is why I just showed you that pre nose job photo of her instead of all these glamour shots that you See, not that one the media using to get your attention. This is what she really looks like. It's petty, I know, but I did that. Now, here's a quick summary of the case. She filed a complaint with the California Department of Civil Rights. Then someone for her from her team conveniently leaked it to the New York Times, who promptly published this story. Now, they gave Justin Baldoni one day to respond, but they published the piece just hours before the deadline they gave him. So they never really gave him a proper amount of time to respond. They reported her claims as fact. They did not even try to validate them. After she received backlash, which she was shocked from because she thought she was going to be seen as this victim and heroin. The reaction to her case was, if you were really abused, why don't you file a real lawsuit or a criminal complaint or something like that? So then she had to file a lawsuit. She did. And he countersued both her and the New York Times. Well, his case against her and the Times was dismissed on Monday. And the court cited fair report privilege, which allows media outlets to parrot legal filings without consequences, even if the claims are exaggerated, misleading, or, as Baldoni alleges, completely false. They didn't have to report it. They just said she said this. And they did not properly give him a chance to respond. He can refile his case against her, and I'm pretty sure he will. Amending his lawsuit. He cannot refile against the Times. The judge was very generous with the New York Times and dismissed the suit with prejudice. So they're done with this. Now, I asked constitutional expert Lionel from The Lionel Nation YouTube channel if this was par for the course when you go after the media because the bar is so high. He says it's not. He said it was dismissed too easily. He should have. Baldoni should have been given another chance to refile. Listen to Lionel's take.
J
They dismissed the defamation case with prejudice.
Clayton Morris
That's it.
J
No chance to refile? No chance to amend a complaint.
John Kiriakou
What?
J
Here's the best part. He has until, what, the 23rd? To refile under such incredibly gripping causes of action, like tortious interference with an ongoing business or bad faith. But here's the deal. He can now, or he must proceed forward with maybe trying to prove that and ultimately take depositions. But stay away from the defamation. Stay away from California's anti slap statute. You see where this goes? We'll let you go into this. You can. You can go into those other areas that don't involve any particular statements that might be considered Privileged under California's legal requirements. Boards and tribunals that take statements. But be careful. Imagine that. Can you imagine that? The, the, the, the. Walking on eggshells. Okay. Your Honor, I'm pursuing this line of questioning not to rekindle, not to try to rehash, not to reintroduce the claims that I tried to make initially under the defamation. But this is tortuous interference, and so good luck. I've got to be honest with you, which I always am.
John Kiriakou
We weren't there.
J
We don't know the reasons behind this other than what we read. This is a fine judge with a fine reputation. But ask yourself, in today's climate, when was the last time you ever heard of a case being dismissed before it even got to first base, so to speak? I mean, strike out this fast on pleadings on. Just on the form of the pleadings with no leave to amend. Wow. You know, if I didn't know better now, I better not say that.
Unknown
Right? Like, who doesn't like him there? Why doesn't he get a proper shot at justice, at proving his case? The courts do usually give wide latitude to the media to protect freedom of the press. But what they've clearly offered is a loophole for character assassination. The court ruled. That's not really our problem, I guess. Not their problem. The law protected the institution, not the individual, who clearly is being dragged through the mud here. And it's a gift to weaponized media and a warning to anyone who thinks that due process exists once your name hits the headlines. Now, here's what really chatter my backside is that President Trump was allowed to sue ABC after George Stepanofoulis wrongly said that the President had been found guilty of rape, which he wasn't. And the Cape case was allowed to proceed, even though ABC tried to claim the same privilege that the New York Times used in the Baldoni case. So since the Trump case was not dismissed, ABC settled it. So why then was the Times case dismissed and ABC allowed to go forward? The Times argued that all they did was report on Light Lively civil rights complaint. They didn't say whether he was guilty or not. They didn't do the reporting, which is a tacit admission. They don't do reporting. They go at the angle they like. They didn't even try. Baldoni had exculpatory evidence about Lively's claim, and they didn't even seem interested. They didn't give him a real chance to present it. It feels wrong, because if the press can publish unchecked accusations with zero liability, it opens the door to reputational hit jobs, which they do with impunity. So the contrast here is glaring. One media giant gets held accountable, the other hides behind legal privilege. And this is exactly why trusting legacy outlets is a mistake in the war of reputation versus narrative. The press picked aside, and it wasn't even true. So let me know what you think of that.
Clayton Morris
Well, coming up, we're going to talk with James Fox, UFO director, documentarian. He's dialed in. We're just getting his audio all sorted out. We'll be with him in a second. And Claudio in our chat says, please ask James Fox if he's ever looked into the 2006 UFO incident at Chicago O' Hare. Yeah, you know, it's funny. I interviewed Leslie Kane about that on Fox News not too long after, a few years after that happened. And we dove deeply into that on the air on my old show, Fox and Friends with Leslie Kane. I think Leslie actually covers it in her book on UFOs. But, yeah, we'll talk about. See if James has some time to talk about that. But first, if you're a homeowner, you need to listen to this. In today's AI and cyber world, scammers are stealing home titles, and your equity is the target. Here's how it works. Criminals will forge your signature on one document, use a fake notary stamp, which you can order on Amazon. They're like five bucks on Amazon. It's kind of crazy. And then they pay a small fee with the county. And just like that, your home title has been transferred out of your name into a criminal's name. The FBI says it's one of the largest and the fastest rising crimes in the United States, people stealing the title. And you think, well, what's the big deal with that? Well, then they can go get loans. They can actually take out mortgages in your home name. And suddenly you. And you won't even know about it. And suddenly you start getting information from. You start finding out, like, your credit report has been pulled. Like, all of these things. You find out, like there's all these mortgages taken out in your name with your home equity. It's crazy. What's happening. When's the last time that you actually checked on your home title? So Natalie and I, we use this service, we pay for it. And we reached out to home title lock and we said, will you guys want to join us here on the show? We're big believers in this product. We have it on our home that we live in. It's so vital, and it's not expensive at all. So hometitlelock.com redacted and what's amazing is your first 30 days you get triple home title lock protection is free. It's free. They do 24. 7 monitoring of your title, urgent alerts of any changes if someone like steals the title to your home or does anything to it. And the best part, if fraud does happen, then they'll spend up to $1,000,000 to fix it. They'll spend up to $1 million to fix it. They actually have a dedicated team that will help get it back for you. And I think that to me is probably the best part of this service. Like it's one thing to get alerts. That's great. I got an alert. But who's gonna help me fix it? How can I get my title of my home back? They will do that for you. They will help you do that. So go to hometitlelock.com that's hometitlelock.com redacted and check out their triple their 30. You have 30 days of triple lock. Home title protection is free. So even in that first 30 days, even if you don't use the service long term, you can find out in that first 30 days what you have access to. And they will be able to find some amazing stuff yet. What is dedication?
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Clayton Morris
So, all right. Is James back with us yet? Anybody?
Unknown
He still has no audio.
Clayton Morris
James still has no audio. Oh, unfortunately. Well, we had no trouble last time. James was on. He was fine. I don't know what happened with this time. What's going on?
Chris Moritz
Yeah, I'm working on it.
Unknown
I just.
Clayton Morris
Okay. You on the phone. I need him to refresh. Okay. All right.
Unknown
Well, do you think you want to set up the story? We can.
Clayton Morris
I do, but I don't want to set it up twice. I mean. Yeah, you know, but I can see if we can get James in here.
Unknown
Okay. Give him a few minutes. Do you have any comments about.
Clayton Morris
I don't know. You have any comments? I'm trying to see. You were. While I was reading that. Did it. Like, anything interesting here?
Unknown
Well, I'm still, like. Because we covered this yesterday. We talked about some of this yesterday, too, and I still just, like, can't get over the Wall Street Journal's coming out saying, no, no, no, no. This was all just. Just government, like, screwing with you. But then there's. We have no. There's no. Like, what were they hiding? I still don't understand what they were hiding. Like, there's no evidence of anything that they were hiding. Like I said yesterday, like the Stealth bombers, the U2, like the SR71, BlackBerry. Like, we all eventually found out about this stuff.
So where.
Clayton Morris
Where is.
Unknown
The big reveal is that.
Well, you can just say weapons, and people are like, oh, weapons, yeah.
Secret weapons.
Yeah, that's it. But, like, gotcha.
Because. Because it would have to. Whatever they're. Whatever they were claiming they're hiding would have to somewhat resemble what people are seeing.
Clayton Morris
Oh, I think we got it.
Unknown
There we go.
Clayton Morris
Do we get James? James, can you hear us now? Can James hear us?
Unknown
Yeah, I can hear you.
Clayton Morris
James, can you hear us now?
Unknown
I can hear you perfectly. Can you guys hear me?
Clayton Morris
Aliens. All right, okay, cool. Let me. I know we're late here, but let me. Let me set up the story here before we bring you in here. So there's James. We're gonna get a shot all dialed in here and. All right, where is it? Here it is. Okay. Well, over the weekend, the Wall Street Journal published what I can only describe as a total hit piece on UFOs, and maybe even whistleblowers, people who've been a part programs or reverse engineering programs, crash retrieval programs. All of it. The article's headline. Take a look at this. The Pentagon's disinformation that fueled America's UFO mythology. Might as well have read, you know. Nothing to see here, folks. Just your government gaslighting you again. And according to the Journal, all this talk about UFOs, decades of sightings, whistleblower testimonies, military encounters, has just been one big Pentagon disinformation campaign. James Fox is an incredible filmmaker, UFO investigator. You know him from documentaries like Moment of Contact, the Phenomenon, which digs deep into some of the most compelling UFO encounters on record. And James joins us now. He's been hard at work on his next documentary. We pulled him away from his big editing session to join us for a few minutes here and dial in the zoom call to get us on here. James, great to see you.
Unknown
Thanks so much for having me on. My latest film is the program just for everybody out there. It's been out for about eight weeks.
Clayton Morris
Yeah, check out the program. It's a phenomenal documentary. And I think you were the perfect person to ask about this Wall Street Journal story. So when I saw this pop up over the weekend, I guess my first reaction was whenever I see something like this, James, I always want to know the ulterior motives. I'm sure you've been around this a long time. You want to know the ulterior motives of an article being released like this. Why do you think now the Wall Street Journal comes out with a story that basically says it's all been one big psyop. It's all a disinformation campaign. Nothing to see here. Why now? Why do you think?
Unknown
All you gotta do is read the headline to this article and that sums it up right there. In fact, you don't need to go any further. That is part of the psyop. This article is exactly that. It's complete and utter hogwash. And I say this not just because, you know, I believe that the David Grush's and the Lou Elizondo's that have testified to a bipartisan group of lawmakers that the, the phenomenon is not just that the phenomenon is real, but that we have definitive proof in the form of spacecraft crash, spaceships, and as they refer to biologics. I believe what I know to be true because I've gone around the world investigating the phenomenon, investigating landing cases, crash cases in Brazil. I've been to China, Russia, Australia, South America, Africa. You know, the phenomenon is definitely real. They know it, they can't explain it. And quite honestly, they're in a corner right now. And this has got Sean Kirkpatrick's fingerprints all over it as far as I'm concerned.
Clayton Morris
So what do you mean by that for our audience? That's uninitiated into Sean Kirkpatrick. Maybe you can explain a little bit about his history. He's featured prominently in the piece. Maybe you can just set the stage there for that.
Unknown
Sure. So Sean Kirkpatrick ran Arrow, which was the UAP task force for a couple of years. He was working closely with Senator Gillibrand and I believe Rounds and Schumer. But he was, and I know this because I was working with firsthand witnesses that had already gone to Arrow and testified in a skiff and given street addresses and names, locations of where this stuff is. And none of those detailed reports, classified detailed reports, wound up being even part of the presentation that, that he ultimately gave. I mean, it was Sean Kirkpatrick, bless his heart. I'm sure that he had the DoD like, you know, pretty much telling him how to do everything. His hands were tied, I'm guessing, but, you know, he just, it was a, it was a complete and utter waste of time. I think the new guy, John Koskowski, was running Arrow. Now I think he's going to be a lot more transparent. Although he did tell me in a skiff a couple of months ago, I started saying like, you know, obviously you guys are going to come to the conclusion after a careful review of the data, especially the classified data that we're dealing with. Some of this stuff is a non human intelligence. And he looked at me, he didn't say no. He just goes, james, I can't part my hair without the DoD's approval. And you can quote me on that. Basically what he was saying is Congress has put me in charge of this organization to get to the bottom of it. But unfortunately, no matter what I uncover with the clearances I have, I'm not able to share that with the general public or perhaps not even Congress without the approval of the dod.
Clayton Morris
One of the things that the legacy media is so good at doing is lying by omission. And I think this Wall Street Journal piece to me is the perfect example of that. Here they go through and in detail, try to paint all of these, like a big UFO cases as just disinformation campaigns by the Pentagon, but they don't make any mention. I mean, there's plenty of cases, the cases you covered in, you know, in Brazil, for crying out loud, in your documentary, or I mean, hundreds of other cases where we have whistleblower testimonies and they just, they omitted all of that to paint a narrative in their article that it's all one big psyop.
Unknown
Oh, I, I was, I, you know, for me, I take it personally sometimes because I know these individuals quite well. People like Robert Salas, launch control officer, Minuteman Missiles, height of the Cold War. These guys are so elite and so trained. I mean, my gosh, they got the finger on the nuclear weapons. You know, for these guys to come forward, it's not exactly a career enhancing move and give testimony about what they experienced and what happened at their bases. I mean, think about these guys. These guys are responsible for pushing their, you know, the launch control officers for a nuclear war. It's like if that's not credible report, I don't know what is. Like, it doesn't get any better than that. I mean, the phenomenon we feature, I mean, thanks to Robert Hastings, I mean, countless incidences where these, these, these objects are interfering with our nukes. I mean, they're shutting them off in most cases, flying over these installations, shutting them off and then whizzing off with impunity. But I'll tell you, I'm telling you right now, the reason why we're seeing these types of articles is there's, this is a significant pushback. These guys are not going to go out without a fight. And the revelation of this phenomenon, of this story is going to be very difficult for them because, you know, they've got technology, so they're going to have to like admit that at some point. They probably going to have to admit that the phenomenon is real and yet they won't have that exposes their vulnerabilities. Right. So you've got these objects whizzing around with impunity. They circle, they fly rings around our fastest jets. Just talk to Dave Fravor. And yet they don't know who they are, where they come from, or what they want. So origins and intent, that's going to be something they don't want to reveal to the general public because for obvious reasons, right, we're vulnerable.
Clayton Morris
So that's at the heart of it. You believe it's because right now they're being pushed into a corner. These people that don't want disclosure, that don't want the truth getting out there about these programs, about the crash retrieval programs, the reverse engineering programs, all of it. And they're sort of fighting right now and pushing back. And that's why we're getting these articles now.
Unknown
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So think, just think about it. I ask your audience for a moment to suspend judgment and let's pretend that it's all real. Okay, let's pretend that, let's assume that they have crash retrieval material, they have bodies. That doesn't necessarily mean they have all the answers. Now how are they going to disclose that to the general public without Sharing that technology because let's face it, that technology, the observed technology of UFOs, and you can talk to any fighter pilot about this dating back to, to the modern day wave of the 1940s, some say obviously earlier than that. They fly rings around our fastest jets. They have no wings, no tail, no visible means of propulsion that can hover. They can accelerate from a standstill, out of sight, in the blink of an eye, right angle turns. If you can weaponize that technology, it's game, it's game over. Right? So if the Russians, it's a race to see who can get to it first. So I kind of understand the national security aspect of the technology. I mean we have to admit that we have it. I don't know exactly how we're going to prove that we have it, but that's, I don't know, that's up to them. But the fact that we're not alone, in my view and in the view of many others that are pushing for more government transparency is the right of every man, woman and child on this planet. And that's one of the reasons why I continue pushing for more transparency.
Clayton Morris
Hallelujah. I agree with you. The healing benefits, the transportation benefits, the pollution benefits, all of it absolutely important. James, great to see you. I know you have to get back into editing. The newest of your documentaries is called the Program. Of course you can watch it on Amazon Prime, I believe. Right. And where else can people watch it?
Unknown
It's streaming for free on Amazon prime if you have a subscription, it's on Apple TV and it's coming to Tubi and YouTube movies. So it'll be in another several hundred million homes in the next few weeks.
Clayton Morris
Awesome. Love having you on here, James. I wish we could spend more time. And we will. We'll do a deep dive. Like I said, we're going to get you on to do that at some point. James, great to see you. I'll let you get back to your editing.
Unknown
Thanks so much for having me on. I really appreciate it.
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Clayton Morris
It's a special kind of chaos.
Unknown
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Clayton Morris
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Unknown
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Release Date: June 10, 2025
Hosts: Clayton Morris and Natalie Morris
Guests: Chris Moritz, John Kiriakou, James Fox
In this episode of Redacted News, hosts Clayton and Natalie Morris tackle several pressing issues that mainstream media tends to overlook. The discussion centers around escalating anti-ICE riots in Los Angeles, the U.S. military's ongoing occupation of Syria, recent defamation cases involving major media outlets, and government disinformation surrounding UFO phenomena. The episode features insightful contributions from experts and whistleblowers, aiming to uncover deeper truths behind these complex topics.
The episode opens with a heated debate about the worsening riots in Los Angeles. Clayton critiques liberal narratives that label these protests as entirely peaceful, citing incidents that contradict these claims.
Clayton Morris [01:10]: "Liberals are continuing to say that these are peaceful protests... Tell that to the LAPD headquarters, which was just attacked and smashed in overnight."
The hosts present evidence suggesting that Democrat-funded NGOs are orchestrating and financing the riots. Videos of unmarked cars distributing expensive riot masks to protesters are highlighted as indicators of a coordinated effort.
Clayton Morris [06:09]: "Hundreds of millions of dollars behind these protests, a lot of NGOs, almost too many to count."
Chris Moritz, author of Failed: A Portrait of California in the Twilight of Empire, joins the discussion to analyze the root causes of the turmoil in Los Angeles. He argues that progressive policies and mismanagement have prioritized criminal elements over public safety, contributing to the chaos.
Chris Moritz [09:06]: "The ideology leads to mismanagement, mismanagement leads to the ideology. It's completely cyclical."
Moritz further explains how California's political consolidation under the Democratic Party has fostered corruption and policy failures, exacerbating the state's instability.
Chris Moritz [20:40]: "California's elite are advancing policies that result in violence and damage, fed by an oligarchy that prioritizes power over safety."
Shifting to international affairs, Clayton discusses the U.S.'s extended military presence in Syria since 2014, labeling it illegal and highlighting recent moves to formalize this occupation.
Clayton Morris [30:00]: "The US has been illegally occupying Syria since 2014, now looking to formalize it with a lease agreement."
John Kiriakou, a former CIA agent and whistleblower, provides a critical perspective on the U.S.'s military actions in Syria. He emphasizes the lack of Congressional approval for such military engagements, calling it an impeachable offense.
John Kiriakou [32:54]: "Sending combat troops overseas without Congressional approval is an impeachable offense committed by every president since Truman."
Kiriakou discusses the geopolitical motivations behind the U.S. presence in Syria, including countering Russian influence and maintaining strategic advantages, while questioning the long-term viability and morality of such actions.
John Kiriakou [37:54]: "The US occupation seems driven by saving face rather than addressing security or combating terrorism."
Kiriakou speculates on the future stability of Syria amidst ongoing foreign interference from Turkey and Israel, predicting further regional destabilization.
John Kiriakou [41:00]: "Syria will continue to exist, but not in the form we've known, with ongoing interference from Turkey and Israel, destabilizing the region further."
The hosts delve into the recent dismissal of Justin Baldoni's defamation lawsuit against the New York Times, contrasting it with ABC's settlement in a similar case involving President Trump.
Clayton Morris [55:38]: "The New York Times gets away with character assassination, while ABC had to settle for defaming President Trump."
A guest named Lionel from The Lionel Nation critiques the legal outcomes, arguing that the dismissal of Baldoni's case reflects systemic biases that protect legacy media from accountability.
Lionel [58:55]: "The court protected the institution instead of the individual, highlighting a loophole for character assassination."
The discussion underscores the dangers of media outlets leveraging legal privileges to publish unchecked accusations, thereby eroding public trust and enabling reputational hit jobs without consequences.
Natalie Morris [60:23]: "It's a gift to weaponized media and a warning to anyone who thinks that due process exists once your name hits the headlines."
Clayton introduces the segment by addressing a recent Wall Street Journal article that claims UFO phenomena are merely Pentagon disinformation campaigns. Skeptical of this narrative, he invites UFO documentarian James Fox to provide a counter-perspective.
Clayton Morris [69:00]: "The WSJ's article is complete and utter hogwash. The phenomenon is definitely real."
James Fox challenges the Wall Street Journal's claims, asserting that substantial evidence and whistleblower testimonies genuinely indicate the existence of unidentified aerial phenomena (UAPs) that are not easily dismissed as mere disinformation.
James Fox [72:17]: "The phenomenon is definitely real, and these entities possess technology we cannot explain or counter."
Fox critiques the limitations imposed on UFO investigations, highlighting how governmental constraints restrict the transparency needed to validate eyewitness accounts and classified data.
James Fox [73:54]: "Attempts to disclose information are hindered by DoD approvals, preventing the public from accessing critical data about UFO encounters."
The discussion also explores the advanced technology reportedly exhibited by UFOs, such as capabilities that surpass current human engineering, posing both intrigue and security concerns.
James Fox [76:17]: "If you can weaponize that technology, it's game over. It's a race to see who can get to it first."
The hosts wrap up the episode by reaffirming their commitment to uncovering hidden truths and challenging mainstream narratives. They encourage listeners to stay informed through their independent platform, emphasizing the importance of transparency and accountability in both domestic and international affairs.
Clayton Morris [80:02]: "Thank you for joining us. Stay connected with our daily newsletter at redacted.inc."
This episode of Redacted News provides a critical examination of societal unrest in Los Angeles, the legality and impact of the U.S. military presence in Syria, challenges facing legacy media in defamation cases, and ongoing government disinformation regarding UFO phenomena. Through expert interviews and in-depth analysis, Clayton and Natalie Morris strive to present an unfiltered perspective on issues that significantly impact public discourse and national policy.