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Live from the Rocky Mountains. Welcome into Redacted. I'm Clayton Morris.
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I'm Natalie Morris.
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And on this show, we cover the stories the mainstream media largely ignores. They've totally ignored and swept under the rug any of the latest details and inconsistencies and lies and cover up in the Charlie Kirk murder investigation. We are gonna look at a number of different pieces of this today. Who's lying? Who knew about this ahead of time and why? There was like sort of fraud and rot inside of turning points months and months ahead of time. We're gonna talk with investigative journalists so specifically on some of these weird inconsistencies as it relates to tpusa. Today on the show, we're also gonna.
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Talk about the ceasefire that wasn't. Now, if you were busy celebrating the ceasefire just a few days ago and you didn't think we would be here, I wanna welcome you to planet Earth. We knew that this would happen. The problem is that now Israel is saying, we're gonna do what we want. We always have been. We're gonna keep doing that. Who's funding that, Clayton? They're gonna do what they want.
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Yeah, and screw you, President Trump. Like, hey, Trump, I know you're a little. You think you can tell us what to do. We're not listening to you at all. Yes, you send us billions of dollars a year, but we are gonna do exactly what we wanna do and not listen to President Trump.
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We are gonna talk about that.
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We're also gonna talk about NASA activating the Earth Defense Force. Why in the world is NASA concerned About this? Is 3 Eye Atlas is barreling towards Earth? Is this just one big psychological operation in order to get us all scared and panicked about something? We're gonna talk about Three Eye Atlas and why NASA just activated this Earth Defense Force. Do you Earth Defense Force, like, hey, everyone, get ready, get ready to launch into outer space. And a number of countries have just joined this new Artemis agreement as well, which is really like a Space Force agreement globally about what's coming. So is this just one big psychological operation? We'll talk about that.
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Plus Clayton has a segment about LASIK eye surgery. Clayton has had LASIK eye surgery and so he's going to scare us all about why that's a scam. I'm holding onto my butt for that one. I'm a little afraid. I don't know what he's gonna say.
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But here we go. Some stunning new revelations about LASIK eye surgery. So you're gonna wanna stick around for that. Again, we cover the stories that might make you a little uncomfortable here. So thank you for dialing us up and subscribing and being a part of.
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Our community that requires us to say, oh, my God, I wish I hadn't let them do that, or, I wish I hadn't done that. And we have a lot of that on redacted. If you watched my piece with Dr. Ellie Phillips about dentistry, you might have felt like that. And I was talking about. To someone in the hairdresser about it, and they're like, you know, it takes a lot of courage to find information and say, I wish I hadn't done that. But you have courage. You watch redacted. So we really appreciate the fact that you come here to hear uncomfortable things.
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Yeah. So thank you. Thank you for being here. Thank you for subscribing and being a part of our community. We appreciate it. Okay, let's dive into the very latest on this ceasefire agreement. That is not.
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All right. Well, Israel is wiping its backside with the ceasefire that President Trump arranged for them. We knew they would, but it's a little surprising that they've done it quite so brazenly here. Just a few hours ago, President or Prime Minister Netanyahu says this. He says he's ordered forceful strikes in the Gaza Strip due to security consultations. Now, he doesn't specifically say what, but Israel has said that this is retaliation for an attack that Hamas had perpetrated on its soldiers, but did not give many details. They usually don't. They also say, look, you were gonna give us these remains of Israeli hostages, and you have not done that yet. That gives us the right to step up our bombing campaign. Now, Hamas has said they do intend to hand over all remains of Israeli hostages. But here's what they said. They say we need heavy equipment to do this. Why, Clayton, would you think that Hamas would need heavy equipment to dig up the remains of hostages? Oh, could it be because Gaza looks like this? Yeah. So if you were going to so much as find a family pet in there, you kind of need heavy equipment to go in where anything would be. Right.
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Yeah. Not just like a little kid's sand shovel that you get at the beach. Like, you're going to need some. You're going to need some heavy backhoes, you're going to need some big earth diggers and movers to get all that stuff out of there.
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Now, the extent to which Israel carries out this forceful strike in Gaza is unknown. So far, the White House has not responded. Responded to this. President Trump is in Asia. We should, though Expect. When President Trump is embarrassed by Israel's lack of adherence to his ceasefire deals, what he normally does is anybody. He crafts a strongly worded post on Truth Social, Truth Social about Hamas. So that's what I expect. I don't expect him to say, Israel should not have done this. We have a ceasefire. This is not according to our plan. He won't do that. I don't know why. This is the question of 2025, is it not? Now, Netanyahu on Monday warned that he was not going to be bound by what the US Says. He released this statement. This is the most direct response to the notion of government infiltration that we really have ever seen. Basically, he's saying that the idea that Israel controls US Congress is a joke. The idea that the US Controlled Israel is ridiculous. He's saying they're going to do what they want. Israel is sovereign. We decide what our security concerns are. We do what we want. The problem is they don't do what they want with their own money. They do what they want with US money and weapons. So that doesn't track. But he's saying, basically, he's signaling whatever was in that cute little agreement you put forward on Twitter. President Trump, I don't have to do that. I'm not going to do that. The problem here is that Israel wants both things. They want both good public relations and. And total destruction of Gaza. And you can't have it both ways in the information age when we can see what happens. According to Israeli outlet ynet, they say that Israel is preparing explanatory materials to distribute because international journalists will be entering Gaza for the first time. So they need a packet to explain what they will see with their own eyes. So you're gonna go in and see total destruction of these lands, but they want you to refer to the packet and say, oh, yes, yes, Hamas caused this. Got it. Let's bring in Colonel Douglas McGregor to analyze this and let us know if Israel can, in fact, just do what it wants, even though it's our money. Colonel, thank you for joining us. What do you think of this flagrant disregard for the ceasefire? You're shocked. I know.
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Yeah, I really was. And I thought you were going to tell me that I'm the one that needed to be analyzed because I was stupid enough to believe that the ceasefire would never work. Look, none of this news, all of this can. All of this is predictable. I wish there was some good news in all of this. It looks like we're going to have three pots that are sitting on the stove. And all three are simultaneously boiling the Ukraine war, although there's a good chance that that will come to an end, because the Russians will simply end it on their terms. But right now, it's still boiling The Middle east, which is on the verge of boiling over, as we both know, and now the new pot boiling in the Caribbean basin, in Venezuela. I. You know, it's incomprehensible that President Trump wants to do all of these things while simultaneously trying to restore law and order at home in the United States, enforce federal law, a very difficult task.
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You served under President Trump. You worked at the Pentagon. If you were sitting in the room right now with President Trump, talking with him about Gaza, what would you tell him? What would your advice be here? Netanyahu, in this agreement, has basically saying, we're not going to. We have 58% of Gaza's territory now. We are going to take more territory. A clear violation of these terms and really spitting in the face of President Trump. What would you tell President Trump to do right now, strategically?
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Well, let's be frank. I don't think President Trump is any more surprised than we are. I think he knows exactly what he's dealing with. He was simply running cover as much as he could for Netanyahu and the regime down there. So his. His donors essentially told him this is what they wanted when they supported him, and he agreed that he would see it through. Now, we don't know all the details that were agreed to, but he knows he's really in a position for which he cannot easily escape. I don't know what he. What I could tell him to do at this point, because the only answer is to cut Israel off, stop funding them, and put an end to this mass murder and expulsion, not just in Gaza, but also in the West Bank. But look, he's not going to do that. And trying to talk to Netanyahu on any other grounds other than pure power is a complete waste of time.
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Do you think that this is going to spill into a larger regional war? We obviously talked about Iran, Lebanon. Do you think that that's where this is heading? Or will this be contained to just Gaza and the West Bank?
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I think we're heading back into confrontation with Iran, whether we like it or not. Contrary to everything President Trump has said, Iran is not some sort of defeated, vassalized state. Far from it. They're living in a state of readiness to defend themselves. They're prepared. Turkey is becoming more and more unstable. From the vantage point of Mr. Netanyahu, he's worried The Turks might do something. Now, the good news for him is that I think as long as Mr. Erdogan lasts, he will do everything in his power to stay out. But if Erdogan for some reason should stumble or end up leaving office, the next ones that are lined up are all strident nationalists who would love nothing more than to throw the Israelis out of the Middle East. So I think it's a very dangerous time and Egypt remains at a boil. I'm surprised that General Sisi has lasted this long. He's another one who's on a tightrope. So, you know, the bottom line is this could blow up at any point in time and it could go regional very quickly. But all of that depends upon what the Israelis do and what we do. We're going to stand by the Israelis. If we stand by that, we'll be drawn into it. The question is, can we do that as well as Venezuela, what's happening in Ukraine and ultimately what we're trying to do at home. And none of this addresses the real gorilla in the room, the thousand pound gorilla, which is the financial condition of the United States, this very brittle foundation we're standing on.
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Yeah, and the cracks are presenting themselves as we speak, by the way. And we look like we're sitting on a bubble. Ray Dalio, just over the past 24 hours, talks about has all the hallmarks of a bubble that we're approaching here. Go ahead, Natalie.
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Well, I was going to ask you now. The US Is reportedly moving an aircraft carrier strike group, including destroyers, into South American waters which looks like an escal with Venezuela. So, you know, you have said that we don't have the weaponry to withstand a full on war with Iran. Is it possible though, that we're moving our troops out of harm's way into South America in preparation for what might be a retaliatory strike from Iran if Israel escalates.
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You know, that's a hard, a hard call to make. I've had other people say, well, it's be. It's because President Trump is so confident that the Middle east is quote, unquote, under control and Iran is no longer a threat, that he can do this. Obviously, I don't subscribe to that notion. I think the bigger problem is this. There's nothing for us south of the Rio Grande. We can't fix what's wrong in any of these countries. And my great fear is that intervening down there will lead us to eventually try to do precisely that, that Venezuela will be another bottomless pit for resources and money. And people that we can't afford and don't need. And it will be a thankless task. We're not exactly popular in Latin America, you know, we've done enormous damage in places like Guatemala, Nicaragua, Honduras, El Salvador. We have a long track record down there. None of it is particularly appealing. So we're not about to be welcomed everywhere with open arms. Now, will some people show up for the photo op if we go in waving and cheering? I'm sure some would. But Venezuela itself is also divided. You go in there and you find out that the army is entirely behind the regime. In addition to that, you've got 600,000 people in the so called militia that will fight for the regime. Then you have unknown numbers of people that want to overthrow the government. It didn't work very well the last time it was tried during Trump 1. I have serious doubts that it will work very well this time. In other words, we're back to the old playbook. Regime change, decapitation, strikes, then intervention with an uncertain future, an uncertain timeline. I don't know how many questions need to be answered that haven't even been asked. And all of this probably has much less to do with drugs because the place isn't a drug hub and everybody keeps talking about oil. I had someone tell me yesterday in Washington, we're flipping the board, we're flipping the strategic chessboard on China and Russia because we're going to get Venezuela. Apparently some demented if they think the Russians are going to fight for Venezuela. They're not. They made that very clear. The Chinese have lots of Chinese. No, not a chance. They're not stupid. They would not fight in the Western Hemisphere, far from their lines of communication and logistics and forces. So I don't know what, what people think this is going to do in connection with China and Russia. And then there's the oil issue. And the oil is obviously enormous in terms of its size and composition in the Orinoco basin. But the stuff is very heavy, it has a high sulfur content. You, you have to get the oil out, then you're going to have to refine it. And the refining is no, no minor requirement, but it is still cheaper than extra extracting oil in the United States. In other words, for every barrel we get out in the United States, out of the ground right now, I think you could probably get two out in Venezuela. Of course, the best oil is still in places like Libya and Iran where for the same price, you could probably get three barrels of oil. But I have the impression that we, we don't think we're going to get control of the Iranian oil fields just yet. So maybe they figure this is an opportunity to strike at Venezuela with the goal of getting that. All of this then risks the possibility, with some justification, that the people in Latin America look at what's going on and they decide to turn this into a sort of crusade against the evil Yankees who come down once again to rape the country for its resources. I'm told by sources there are as many as 100,000 paramilitaries in Brazil and additional ones in Colombia that could pour over the border to support, to fight against us. And again, we're not talking about sinking aircraft carriers out in the Caribbean basin. That's unlikely. But when you come ashore and you step into this place, you're going to be a target. Now, maybe we can sit on the coast, fortify ourselves. I don't know. Maybe that's the plan. And we can stay there for long periods of time, as long as we control the ocean and the air. I don't know that that's going to help us get the oil out. And then there's another possibility. People decide, well, if we can't control our own oil resources, well, we'll set them on fire. We'll destroy it so the Yankees can't get any access to it. And then the gold mines, emerald mines, the lithium that they supposedly have down there, you've got to go after it, you've got to get it, you've got to bring it out. I don't know if the 10,000 soldiers sitting in Puerto Rico that are apparently ready to go into Venezuela are going to be ideally suited to that task or the 2,500 Marines that are sitting offshore. I don't know. I mean, President Trump says he's going to tell us all what's, what it's about and what he plans to do. But the problem right now is that most people, when they hear drug boats are blown up and drugs are being stopped, they all cheer. They have no idea what they're dealing with.
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Right? Yeah. They're falling for the propaganda, of course, because it's attractive. And by the way, this propaganda started months before the election, too. It was all about Trend Aragua, the greatest threat to the United States. And we never heard of Trend Aragua before. Suddenly, that's like the buzzword. And it was really smart marketing on their part, laying the groundwork for this months ahead of time. Colonel, we'll get you out of here on this. What happens to Nicolas Maduro? You heard CBS 60 Minutes this weekend. Basically, they're like an extension of the CIA at this point. You heard Senator Scott Florida saying, maduro better get out. You better go to Russia, he better go to China if he wants to live. So what, an assassination plot? What do you think is going to happen to Maduro?
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I don't know. Everything south of the border operates on the basis of bribery and corruption. I suppose the CIA is probably investing heavily in some assassination plot. But will that happen? Look, Iraq was a smaller proposition with fewer people and the terrain was very favorable to us. Venezuela is a different animal entirely. You've got millions of square miles of jungle, impenetrable jungle and mountains and so forth, extraordinary rivers. You could end up seeing Maduro escape into the interior. Then you're in the manhunt to find him. That could go on forever. So I think they're probably banking heavily on some sort of decapitation strike that will simply assassinate him. But again, these are always iffy things. You know, you plan for success, but frequently you don't get it. We didn't get it in Iraq either, and we went for months trying to find Saddam.
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Colonel Douglas MacGregor, host of the National Conversation, always great to see you. Thank you so much for this. You've been right more times than I care to admit. And he'll be right again on this one. Thanks, Colonel.
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Yeah, well, thanks very much. Bye. Bye.
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All right. Thanks, Colonel. All right. Coming up on the show, we're going to talk about the Charlie Kirk investigation. We've got an investigative journalist on the show who was months ahead of time calling out some of the corruption and rot inside of this organization, the TPUSA organization, months before Charlie Kirk was assassinated. And Candace Owens, yesterday on her show, called out some big lies, which we're gonna unpack today with this investigative journalist, Brian Ference. In a moment on the show, we're gonna talk about that. But first I'll tell you about our friends over at Bearskin, because. Right. Oh, man, this morning I gotta get my bearskin hoodie right here off the floor.
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I actually don't know why this video, I don't know what this video could have done that he sent me other than to make me feel even more uncomfortable because the video he sent me is quite shocking. It's also the reason that I knew that Tyler Boyer was lying when he tweeted this guy was commanded by the police to take down the cameras. He's lying because I have every minute of what this guy was doing thanks to him having sent it to me. Okay. Every minute of what he was doing before he took those cameras down. And they're only four minutes, by the way, before he takes those cameras down. So he's next to and he's in front of Mikey McCoy when Charlie gets shot. Now, to his credit, he actually did see Charlie get shot. He saw in like a split second sees Charlie bleeding and runs and doesn't run very far. He just runs a couple of yards away. I should mention that the camera guy, he too was also brought into the company by Tyler Boyer. Okay.
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Investigative journalist Brian Ference has been on this story long before Charlie was even murdered. He'd been investigating, reporting on the corruption, the sexual assault cover up by TP USA CEO Tyler Boyer. Brian even put out a poll last April about this. Here's the. You can see the timestamp on this. Take a look at this poll. Should Charlie Kirk fire Tyler Boyer given allegations of covering up sexual assault and other corruption. And we know they were doing an audit of where all this money was disappearing. Charlie was doing this audit. So Brian, investigative journalist, great journalist, joins us again on the show. Brian, thanks for staying on the story and digging deep where others are scared to look. Great to have you back on the show.
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Thank you. Clayton and Natalie, great to be back on the show. And I did want to point out all this evidence that I'm going to be talking about. It's on my website, Brian Ference.com and also you can follow me on x@Brian Ference 1, including the screenshots that shows Tyler Boyer incorrectly claiming that the police ordered Terrell Farnsworth, who was the cameraman, to remove that camera and those SD camera, SD cards. So those screenshots are there. I did want to talk about since you mentioned that allegation of sexual harassment cover up. That is one that really a shocking, shocking story. And again on BrianFrence.com, i did send it to your producer as well if he wants to show any of the screenshots. But it's important because this is a pattern of corruption and a pattern of COVID ups and a pattern of gaslighting people. If you look at the interactions that Superfeed Technology CEO and TurningPoint Action CEO Tyler Boyer has to anyone Questioning him or his team, he immediately attacks that person, gaslights them, invalidates the question. So, yeah, those are screenshots of him claiming that the police instructed the cameraman, Terrell Farnsworth, to remove those cameras and evidence in an active crime scene. Which is absolutely not true. Police protocol stipulates that absolutely, you cannot break the chain of custody due to potential tampering of evidence. That was an active crime scene. Crime scene. They absolutely had no right to do that. And frankly, it puts the entire case in jeopardy because, you know, the alleged assassin, his attorney can claim, well, this evidence, the chain of custody, was broken. So how do we know this wasn't tampered with? You know, this evidence? So, I mean, it could.
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Right.
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That's OJ Simpson. Exactly, Brian. That's OJ Simpson all over again. Right. It's the chain of evidence. It was. The LAPD bungled this investigation. You can't trust the chain of evidence here. Who touched the SD card? Who had access to this? So when he's. Can you unpack what Candace was saying yesterday and what Tyler Boyer is saying publicly? Can you walk us through those two different positions here?
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Sure. And in the video from Candace Owens, there's two main employees that she talks about. One is Mikey McCoy, who is the chief of staff for TPUSA, and she shows a video of Mikey McCoy. It's literally less than one second. It's like 800ths of seconds. As soon as Charlie is shot, he puts his hands up, supposedly to cover his ear, but he has his phone in his ear, and he's walking away. And the interesting thing is, Mikey McCoy, his father is a pastor, Pastor Rob McCoy, and he did a sermon recently where he said, you know, Mikey McCoy was a hero. And he had. He had blood all over him. That's a direct quote. He had blood all over him. Well, that's impossible, because he was behind the tent. He was walking away. He was, you know, 20 yards away. He absolutely did not have blood over him. So it's just. It's a little bit bizarre. It's a little bit bizarre behavior. I mean, if I was someone's chief of staff and supposedly their best friend and they got shot, I probably would run either towards them. I certainly wouldn't like, I don't know, calmly stroll away with my phone to my ear, which is one of the things that Candace is pointing out. The other thing she's pointing out is Terrell Farnsworth, who's the cameraman, who is identified as the one that removed the camera, which was directly behind Charlie Kirk. Immediately afterwards, he's also on the video. And he's seen kind of running away to a grassy knoll as well. And then he decides that he's going to shoot a like a selfie live video or just record himself, I guess. I don't know if it was live or not.
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I think we do have that.
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Yeah, let's run that, Brian. We have that video. Yeah, let's run that video. So this is, this is Farnsworth here who decides to like shoot a selfie video just seconds after Charlie Kirk is assassinated. It's a very.
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He flips the camera. So you do see, see Charlie being loaded into the suv. So while concerned parties are in on the job of hopefully saving his life, he thinks, I need to document how I feel right now. Let's watch.
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They just shot Charlie. They just shot Charlie.
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They just shot Charlie.
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See, there he goes. Look, my friend is being loaded into an suv. I'm going to stand here and record my reaction.
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He just shot Charlie. I mean, it's like. It reminds me, Brian, almost like one of those tick tock.
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What he says here, I want you to. Don't talk over it. He says he's dead. Nobody knows at this point that he's dead. Nobody knows this yet. So he then presumably is the first one to proclaim Charlie Kirk dead.
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Yeah, they're loading him in the car. I mean, anyway, Brian, it reminds me. I was just gonna say it reminds me of like one of those tick tock, you know, like I'm feeling. I want to, I want to flip on the camera and start crying for the camera. I mean, I don't want to denigrate, but I mean, it's just, it's bizarre behavior. Like if my friend is shot, I'm not going to flip on a selfie camera and film like my reaction. I'm going to do what I can to help. And you know, if there's. I don't know. But.
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Well, something the turning points people said in their response on Monday was we had strict protocols in place. Was the protocol ever film yourself, I wonder, was take a selfie ever part of this? What safety does that promote? That belies all rational thought? Doesn't.
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Does. And how. I mean, how did he know that Charlie Kirk was dead? I mean, he didn't.
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He was.
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He didn't get close to him. I mean, he saw people carry him into the car. I mean, how does he know that he's dead? It's bizarre that he pronounces that immediately after the shooting and then Goes back and steals the camera and footage from. From an active crime scene and. And allegedly stood on the chair that Charlie Kirk was shot, by the way. I don't know if I know if there was two chairs there or not, but you can see him. You know, he's looking around first to make sure no one's watching him. And then he stands on a chair which appears to be the chair that Charlie Kirk was assassinated in, and removes the camera directly behind Charlie Kirk. I mean, just bizarre behavior. They asked him on Charlie Kirk's show, Andrew Colvett asked him, why did you do that to Tyrell Terrell, Terrell Farnsworth? And his. His response was exactly the opposite of Tyler Boyer. Tyler Boyer had said the police told him to do that, but that's not what he said on this show. He said there's. Basically said there's. There's evil people out there, and I needed to protect the footage. So you have conflicting answers, which is very strange.
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I feel so sad that I thought of this. But what I thought of was how people would misuse this. But what he first thought of was himself and how he wanted to immortalize his reaction. So that doesn't track. Now, I want to ask you about this, because the Turning Point's executives are presenting this narrative that Charlie was like the Messiah and they are the disciples. And so therefore they are blameless. And anybody who is questioning the disciples is disgusting. That's what they said. They're disgusted that we would question the actions of the sanctioned messianic disciples. That's how they would like this to come off. And I reject it from the core of my being. I find that disgusting.
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It.
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Now you have evidence that these people were beyond. Were had character questions long before the assassination, and we should not forget that and allow them to just have this protection of discipleship. Can you tell us what you found about the allegations about Boyer long before the shooting?
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Sure. So, basically, there. There is on my website, there's a lot of other documented cases of allegations of sexual assault going back years. And it always kind of gets covered up. This is one from 2024. You can see the date is December 2024. So this is an alleged sexual assault. I'm going to just summarize a little bit what's in this police report. But this is. This is a very young girl, very young, as typically happens with Turning Point, they recruit all these really young, very attractive girls usually. So she was assigned to work with a prominent Turning Point employee named Matthew Martinez by Tyler Boyer. And, yeah, there's a photo of Boyer and Martinez, like in Mexico. They're right next to each other. And Martinez, he's frequently appeared actually on the Charlie Kirk show and is heavily promoted as a Turning Point speaker. He leads trainings. He's known as a data guru. He's given credit for drawing the maps for all their door knocking and, quote, the mastermind behind the math and science. He's taken a lead role in election results. And then Martinez is actually a current board member on the Arizona Young Republican. So he's involved in the. In the Republican scene. And you may have remembered the scandal that Young Republicans had, that there's Turning Point connections there as well. But let's skip that for a second. So the victim alleges that she was adjourning a junior employee working with Martinez, who was a senior employee, and Tyler Boyer and Martinez acted as her, quote, project leader. Okay, this is her boss or her superior. And then she also claims that Boyer and Martinez were friends. They had drinks together, they would be photographed together, always. Boyer said of Martinez, he's relentlessly worked to train thousands of ballot chasers full time and part time. Gave him an award, all this stuff. But from the police report, Martinez is with this victim and they're in a car together alone. And she has a dress on. And he places his hand on the inside of her thigh and begins stroking the inside of her leg and reaches her pelvis. He's touching her pelvis area in her underwear. And then he tries to kiss her and tries to get her to go into his hotel room. Well, she tells him, you know, if you get out of the car. And then she filed that police report. Well, what was strange is that this is an employee also Turning Point. So these are two Turning Point employees. So Tyler Boyer, who's friends with Martinez, basically then comes in and completely inappropriately takes control of the investigation. This should be a human relations HR investigation, but he takes control of it. There's an email on my website. Basically he's responding to someone in hr. He's saying that he's moving the date of the HR meeting. And according to the victim, this is a quote. Yeah, that's it. Tyler was leading investigation in the interview. Essentially, I was just meeting with Tyler. It was him just raking over the coals and asking questions because they had spoken to Matthew first.
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So.
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And then there's another letter which is from the April 9, 2024, from Veronica Peterson, who identified, identifies herself as counsel for Turning Point. That's it. And she says, upon your commencement, she's Talking to the victim. Your commencement of employment tpa. You signed a confidentiality agreement NDA and we are informing you that you are at. We've been informed you're actively discussing a confidential investigation that arose from your report of harassment. They say harassment, but it's sexual assault is what the police report says. So it's interesting that they downgraded it from sexual assault to harassment by a co worker. And then they go on to say you would be in violation of your NDA and you must cease continuing such communications. TPA takes this matter very seriously, is prepared to take legal action. Bring it.
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Continued documented violation because she reported it to police.
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That's exactly what it is.
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Right.
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So she reported it to the police. And they say your NDA obligated you to only report this internally. That's crazy.
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And it's completely, it's completely invalid. The legal precedent is very clear. NDAs do not apply to sexual assault. Absolutely not.
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No company takes your civil liberties away because that's crazy.
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Now people could say, Brian, don't like. Let, let's not muddy the water here. Someone in the chat say let's not muddy the water between Charlie Kirk's assassination and the fraud and maybe cover up and corruption that was happening at TP usa. Maybe you could address that here. Do you think they're totally separate, Nothing to nothing to see here.
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Yeah, that's a good, that's a good point. And if it was a one off, I would maybe agree with that. But this is not a one off. This is a pattern of behavior. And you have someone, Tyler Boyer, who is experienced in cover ups. He's experiencing cover ups. So here he is very clearly inappropriately assuming the control of the sexual assault investigation, covering it up, legally threatening that employee. And then you have another situation which is now where Tyler Boyer is covering up for his employees again. Oh, they, they, you know, interfered with a crime scene. Oh, let me just say the police told them to do that. And then there's, there's a lot of other irregularities with many of Tyler Boyer's comments because he's experienced in covering up, running pr, saving face. And he's also made legal threats to Candace Owens and other people. If you keep talking about Charlie Kirk and this and this, we're going to sue you because it's a pattern of behavior. Their company is incredibly litigious. I got some kind of weird malformed. It wasn't a cease and desist, it was like a demand letter. It was just absolutely ridiculous. I just gave it right back to them because it was completely insane. But that's their pattern.
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I hope you used it as toilet paper.
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Yeah, I really did. But this is a pattern of behavior for them. They cover things up. They gaslight, and then they follow it up with legal threats. So when you're talking about don't muddy the water, this is a pattern of behavior. These are skilled emotional and psychological manipulators that have the ability to just lie constantly. Gaslight people. And then followed up with legal threats. And, oh, by the way, we're the good guys. Please continue donating tens of millions of dollars to our organization.
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Now, we don't know how much Charlie Kirk would have had a hand in this. We don't know what he knew about this. What we do know is that he had ordered an audit on the financials because there was things that didn't pass the smell test and that he was trying to regain control. He seemed to need to regain control of his maybe C level executives. So that maybe gives us a clue that he might have felt like the natives ran away with it, or what is the expression? The natives were in charge. The inmates were in charge. Sorry.
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Yeah, she's terrible with idioms. We apologize, Brian.
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Well, I mean, that's an interesting point. Oh, go ahead.
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No, go ahead, Brian.
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Yeah, I just wanted to touch on one other thing. So, you know, this is from another employee at Turning Point. So I've had multiple discussions with multiple, usually former, some current Turning Point employees. This one confirmed the allegations of sexual assault and that it was covered up. And then they went on to say this. They said, the people at Turning Point are not good people. There is nothing godly about them. They are protecting what is going on there, and it is the culture. They're using intimidation tactics regularly. My first week, I met Tyler Boyer, and there was something off about him from the beginning. Boyer is not who he thinks he is. He is an arrogant asshole. There were people in my employee training that said Boyer. The guy is full of shit. Sorry for the cursing. There's an act. There's an act. Like he has it all figured out. The first thing I figured out is they lie and they don't tell the whole truth, particularly about their data. They weren't telling the truth about what they were presenting to donors. They were inflating the numbers and their data was wrong. Their app is flawed and not accurate. Their training is garbage. There's something not right here, particularly with Tyler Boyer. Boyer does not fear God at all. He is not a Christian. The man is a monster.
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A
Wow. Okay. Those are some Tough words from a current TPA employee. Right.
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That's a current TPA employee from a former tpa. But these are multiple, multiple employees that corroborate the story. All verifiable. Their employment there. Plenty of other interesting financial transactions. That's why Kirk was calling for an audit and a Doge style audit. And I believe. I don't have a screenshot of this, but I believe Tyler Boyer again kind of dismissed it, saying, oh, no, this is just a regular audit that we do all the time. No, no, it's not. It doesn't call for a culture change. It doesn't say, where's the, where's our funding coming from? Where's our funding going? This was a major audit, and as far as I have been informed, it's been completely canceled since. Since Charlie Kirk was assassinated.
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A
Wow.
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And yet, you know, the thing that stuck out the most to me at his memorial were Turning Point USA speakers saying, get married, get married young, have a family, be an upstanding Christian. I mean, who was the person that spoke with his wife? There was somebody specific. Do you remember? Was that Mikey McCoy? No, somebody in the chat, please. There was a husband and wife that came on the stage and said, charlie encouraged me to get married young. This is my beautiful wife. This, you know, somebody will remember.
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I don't remember.
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Off the top.
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Yeah, I don't remember his.
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Yeah, I don't have that.
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It was a long program. It was a five hour program. But there was somebody there who specifically it was, be a young, upstanding person, follow the Lord, get married young. And so this stood out to me. And now that you're telling me that this culture persisted, that was not in line with. With that message, so.
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Oh, that's absolutely true. And I've written a lot of other articles about some of the questionable speakers at TPUSA Faith, some of which were former onlyfans models, also known as prostitutes. You know, there's a former porn star that at one point was involved as a. As a speaker with Turning Point, and that was kind of. That was kind of discarded quickly. But, you know, they've had atheists speak at Turning Point USA Faith. There's a lot of really questionable people that they put into the limelight and throw up on stage that do not represent the supposed Christian values that they should.
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No. Yeah. I've heard some unbelievable stories about some of these parties and things that would take place, and some of the individuals who spoke on that stage would make a lot of people really disgusted.
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I think the chat is saying, that. That was Mikey McCoy. It was. I see it right now. Remember this?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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The wife looked like a young Isla fisherman.
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A
Yeah.
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With the white dress that's probably lost on this audience. Yeah. Okay. Anyway, anyhow. Okay, I'm remembering that. Thank you so much for this journalism you have. My jaw is on the floor. So please come back with.
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Thank you, Brian.
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Thank you both again. All this evidence is on brianfarrence.com. have a good rest of your day. Thank you again.
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Yeah. And follow Brian on X because he is fearless, you know, in the face of these people that are coming after him, attacking him. Like, he doesn't back down. So follow Brian. He's one of the. One of the brave investigative journalists in this country that we need who's not afraid. So thank you, Brian. Great work.
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And thank you to the chat. You guys were on it. I remembered that speech. Yeah. That was Mikey McCoy who talked about. This is the guy who brought his young, lovely wife up and said how great. I love married life. I have this because of Charlie. So, so fantastic. So if the guy who had like been at your wedding promoted you to get married, you know, instilled in you this Christian value, when he gets shot in front of you, you're like gonna walk away.
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Yeah.
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So.
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Check out what is happening with 3i Atlas, that large interstellar object, some say as an alien spacecraft barreling towards Earth. Others say this is an absolute large psychological operation in order to get us all scared about an impending invasion. An alien invasion coming to Earth. What exactly is going on here? Well, NASA just activated its Earth Defense Group. Wow, who the heck knew about that? Over possible concerns, they say, of a Manhattan sized comet with possible alien technology. Malaysia and the Philippines also now signing the Artemis Accords. They just signed the Artemis accords making it 56 nations together. All of these nations and space programs have signed like bilateral accords with the US And NASA to conduct future space exploration, mining, tourism, et cetera, all of that. So what is happening with three Eye Atlas? Why is NASA activating an Earth Defense Group over this comet? Joining us now is Dr. Michael Sala who writes@exopolitics.org he's one of the keenest writers and researchers on these subjects and joins us again. Dr. Sala, great to have you back on the show.
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Glad to be back, Clayton.
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Our pleasure. So first of all, maybe you can update us about the concerns and irregularities about this three Eye Atlas. What exactly is it? Obviously it's been, we've been tracking this now for it seems like many, many months, I think. And there are some who say this is some sort of large alien craft. Others say nothing to see here, this is a comet. Others saying this is a large psychological operation in order to get us all scared about an impending alien invasion. For maybe them to further take away our civil liberties rally around some globalist organization where we now have no voting rights. So what say you?
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Well, there's a lot of theories about 3i atlas, what it is, and some speculate that it's a craft, an extraterrestrial craft. And Professor Avi Loeb from Harvard has been kind of leading the charge in putting out information that there are a number of Characteristics of A3I Atlas which are not normal for an asteroid or for a comet. And one of the things that kind of stands out is, is that Three Eye Atlas roughly comes from the same direction as the famous wow. Signal from 1977, where astronomers thought that they had intercepted radio communications from, from an extraterrestrial civilization from somewhere in the direction of the Sagittarius constellation. So Three Eye Atlas came from that area. So there's a lot of speculation. And importantly, tomorrow, October 29, 3 Eye Atlas achieves perihelion with the Sun. So that's the closest approach to the sun. And it's already been generating enormous coronal mass ejections that have been occurring on the far side of the Sun. So we haven't really been experiencing the effects of that because at the moment, Three Eye Atlas is on the other side of the Sun. But certainly those coronal mass ejections, if they had come towards the Earth, they would have caused geomagnetic storms at the highest level. So all of that has led to a lot of speculation. Avi Loeb has been saying that as 3i Atlas achieves perihelion, that this is where they have something called the Oberth effect, where this is the optimal time when an object, if it's artificial, could accelerate or decelerate so that it could experience this kind of slingshot effect around the sun. So there's expectation that this, this period or tomorrow is where there might be signs of that happening. But it's all occurring on the far side of the Sun. We are not getting any kind of satellite imagery of what's happening with Three Eye Atlas. And conveniently, the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, which has a high resolution camera, the High rise camera, which could get high resolution images of Three Eye Atlas as it was passing by the sun, so passing by Mars. None of those have been released. So on top of all of this, a week ago you get the International Asteroid Warning Network issuing a notice telling all the world's astronomers and astronomical organizations that they're going to conduct an astrometric campaign to study 3i atlas. So all of a sudden now you have this body created or authorized by the United nations, by United nations resolution to study asteroids for any potential impact on Earth. So it's correct that this is a kind of like an early warning group or a planetary defense group as some are calling it, that could like give the heads up that there's an asteroid heading towards the Earth that could impact. And so now you've got this International Asteroid Warning Network notice out there asking for a two month period from November 27th up until January 27th, that all the world's astronomers are going to be measuring the path of three Eye Atlas. And why would that be? And one of the theories is that this is when three EYE is likely either going to break up and, and people are speculating as to where its fragments might head up. But more plausibly that three Eye Atlas is going to release a lot of probes or that it's a mothership releasing spacecraft and some of those craft may head towards the Earth.
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So this Earth Defense Group and what is their plan? They're going to identify that this an asteroid coming to Earth, some sort of impending danger. What do we have to stop it? I mean, is there anything we can do about it at this point? Or is this. Again, I come back to the idea of like. Go ahead, I'll let you finish that.
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F
Well, officially there's nothing set up to stop an asteroid coming in other than maybe sending ballistic nuclear missiles in outer space to detonate in the vicinity of an astronaut if it's about to impact the Earth. I mean, what they're really doing is they're tracking three I atlas. And what they want to do is get all of the world's astronomical apparatuses networks out there to track three ils. I think it's because it's going to be behaving in a way that needs all eyes on the skies to track. I think multiple objects coming from three EYE atlas. And I don't think it's, they're anticipating it fragmenting into hundreds of smaller particles. I think it's, there's, there's an anticipation that there could be something released from 3i atlas. And so they want the world's astronomers to track these so that they know where these objects or where these fragments or probes, whatever could be released are going. And officially they have nothing set up in space to intercept a fragment or a asteroid heading towards the Earth. But in reality there is a secret space program.
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A
Let's talk about that secret space program. As you pointed out to me in a message earlier, you said the big difference between the United States and China led programs right now on future exploration, mining, tourism, et cetera, whatever's going to happen in space, these sort of bilateral accords with these 56 nations as part of the Artemis Accords, that the US has been sharing some of this ET technology, hybrid spacecraft, reverse anti gravity technology and others with some of these countries. But China's approach, they have the technology as well. I mean we'd be stupid to think that we're the only ones or the Russians are the only ones with this technology. But China has been far more restrictive with their technological approach to reverse engineering of these craft. Do I have that right?
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F
Yeah, that's right, yes. I mean, the United States has had a secret space program going back for decades using all sorts of advanced technologies. And there's the best evidence of this is from President Ronald Reagan himself in 1984. In 1985, he actually said, and these are in his memoirs, he said that we have the capability of placing 200 astronauts in Earth orbit. Now, at the time, all you had were the space shuttles, and they could take maximum of 10 people at a time. And there were like five of them that were operational anytime. So how would five space shuttles capable of taking 10 people place 200 or more astronauts in Earth orbit? I mean, so Regan was acknowledging that there was a secret space program in existence at the time. And I think this secret space program has been built using reverse engineered alien technologies. And there have been a number of whistleblowers coming forward saying these programs are in existence. And when it comes to the Artemis Accords, I think that the reason these have been so successful to the United States, I mean, they've got. They just had Malaysia and Philippines sign up as the 55th and 56th nations that sign these bilateral accords or with the US State Department and NASA. And so you have to ask yourself, why would 56 of the world's leading space agencies agree to bilateral agreements with the United States as opposed to multilateral agreements with the United nations, where responsibility, overall control is shared among all the world's nations, as opposed to the Artemis Accords that places the United States at the core, kind of like think of the spokes of a wheel. And the United States is the core. And you got 55 other nations joined in with the United States in terms of space exploration, space mining, tourism, and so forth. And China has set up a rival. It's called the International Lunar Research Station Initiative, where they have 13 nations currently signed up. But the only real major nation in that group of 13, aside from China, is, is Russia. And so why are nations lining up to join the Artemis Accords as opposed to China's initiative? And according to my insider sources, what's been happening is that the United States has been secretly training international pilots, and we're talking about typically Air Force pilots from the different nations in how to fly these hybrid human extraterrestrial spacecraft which operate through a kind of like, technology mind interface. That this is really advanced technology. And the United States is sharing that in a underground facility near Huntsville Alabama, which is why I believe Space Command is being relocated. Huntsville, Alabama. And in contrast, China is very parsimonious with sharing its, its reverse engineered technologies because it's very wary of the United States, kind of like ascertaining exactly what China has.
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A
We'll be watching this very closely. I guess we're getting close to getting some answers on this, I hope. Dr. Michael Sala, always great to have you on the show. Thank you for keeping this, keeping us in the loop on this. Really appreciate you can read more of Michael's great works. You can read his books, by the way. He's got many, many books. But also exopolitics.org is where his show is and all of his blog posts and other things over there. Dr. Great to have you on the show as always.
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F
Thanks for having me back, Clayton.
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A
Thanks, Michael. Great to see you. All right, coming up, we're going to talk about Lasik eye surgery. Why it's one big scam they don't want you to know about. Sure, you may have had of a sense, successful surgery, but what about the tens of thousands of people, maybe hundreds of thousands of people that haven't? We'll talk about that in a moment.
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No purchase necessary. See rules@play atmcd.com for full details and amoe.play@mcd.com to play without purchase ends November 23rd, but bonus play ends November 2nd. Monopoly is a registered trademark of Hasbro. Copyright McDonald's. Well, is Lasik eye surgery one big scam? The evidence seems to be in on it. It's been sold to us as a miracle of modern medicine. 15 minutes. Get a quick zap with a laser and you're free from glasses and contacts forever, right? Or at least 10, 15 years. You might need a touch up. But behind all these glossy ads and 95% satisfaction statistics, there's a dark side that they don't want you to know about. Why has the industry fought tooth and nail to keep you from hearing the truth? Why did the regulators ignore all of the problems? Is it about money? Well, I'll ask you guys. How many of you guys watching right now have had Lasik? Let me know in the comments below or in the chat room. Now. Since its approval in the late 1990s about 20 million Americans have now undergone Lasik surgery. The pitch is simple. It's quick, it's safe, it's effective. And yeah, most people walk away happy. But what happens to the thousands of people who don't? What happens when the promise of, like, perfect vision becomes a lifelong sort of prison sentence of pain, double vision, even depression so severe it leads to suicide? I mean, just look at the vaccines. If human trials show a few big adverse events like permanent blindness or death, then the drug never gets approved by the FDA unless it gets emergency youth authorization. Right, but it should never hit the market. But Lasik, thousands of adverse events. Sure, go right ahead. No problem. So for those that don't know, Lasik works by slicing a flap into your cornea, reshaping the tissue with a laser, and then sealing it back down. That cut can sever nerves, change the cornea's structure forever. And in some patients, it triggers complications that never go away. Permanent problems. The FDA data shows up to 27% of patients experience new or worse, dry eyes. Six months after this surgery, 41% report seeing new glares, halos, starbursts around lights at night. That makes it nearly impossible to drive a car at night. Some of these problems fade over time. Others never do. And those serious complication rates that you hear about, less than 1%, they tell us, oh, it's less than 1%. Well, according to the former FDA official who approved Lasik, Dr. Morris Waxler, there's a. He says that's a total lie. He says the real complication rates are between 10 and 30%. 10 and 30%. Meet Ryan Kingerski, a 26 year old police officer. In August of 2024, he went in for LASIK surgery. On the car ride home, on the car ride home, he told his mom something's not right. Got blurred vision. I've got crushing headaches. Double images. Then he was given months of excuses by the doctors. Oh, just give it like, more time. It'll get better. Just give it more time. What nobody caught? His corneas were too thin for Lasik. They were too thin for it. And then five months later, Ryan committed suicide. And he left a note saying, quote, lasik took everything from me. I can't take it anymore.
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B
Oh, bless. There's no qualifying test.
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Well, doctors are so quick. We'll get to that. But the doctors are so quick to, like, approve this that they'll look right past the fact that he had thin. Corny is. And he wasn't a perfect candidate for him.
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It's like a 10 to $15,000 paycheck for them because the machine automates it. It's, you know, like it's easy to sell.
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Yeah.
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It's printable.
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Oh, yeah, absolutely. Print the money, follow the money. Of course. So of course the LASIK defenders jumped right in to try to protect their image. One of the industry. On the industry's website, lasik.com, they posted this about Ryan's suicide, you can see here. So their position is he might have mental issues already and therefore LASIK likely had nothing to do with it. He might have had some sort of, you know, we need access to Brian's full medical records, his psychological history or post operative care details. You know, we just don't know what kind of emotionally, you know, disoriented person he was. So we can't possibly know. Even though it was in his freaking suicide note.
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You know, one of those people who just like to see.
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Yeah, but what was his psychological record?
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One of those crazy people.
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I mean, he wrote it in his freaking note.
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Five senses.
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So they go on that, on the site, the very same data that I just showed you, they say, they, they talk about this. You said, you know, more than 20 million LASIK procedures have been performed in the United States, and the procedure remains among the most studied and refined in modern medicine. According to research compiled by the American Refractive Council, LASIK's complication rate is less than 1%. Now, we just told you about that 1% number and how phony it actually is. Meet Jessica Starr. She was a TV meteorologist in Detroit. After her lasik, she lost her night vision, developed intense dryness in her eyes, star bursts around every light. She made video diaries saying, I'm really mad at myself for doing this. I was fine, just wearing contacts. Two months later, she was gone. Suicide. Once again, she didn't leave a note, but she left these video diaries blaming her eye surgery. Watch.
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I'm still using drops. These things, these tears, artificial tears, probably about every five minutes. These are video diaries from Jess Star, a popular Detroit meteorologist, wife and mother of two young children, just a few weeks after undergoing corrective laser eye surgery in October of last year.
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I want to just get back to my normal life, and right now I'm.
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Not living my normal life. So after her lasik, she lived with burning eyes so severe that she could only lie in the dark room. She had to constantly put drops in her eyes. In her suicide note to her family, she wrote, botched LASIK destroyed my life.
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B
Oh, bless.
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These aren't isolated cases. Patient Advocates say dozens of suicides have been linked to LASIK complications, and thousands more live in silent pain of not knowing what to do. So why don't you hear about this money, period. It's all about the money. Lasik is a multi billion dollar a year industry whistleblower. Dr. Waxler, who approved it for the FDA, says surgeons minimized these problems and played a game with the FDA during the approval process, essentially lying to them. Complications lasting years were reclassified as resolved at six months. Oh, you'll just get it. You'll grow out of it at six months. It'll be fine. They lied about it. So Dr. Morris Waxler approved the surgery not knowing that the industry hid the data.
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D
Listen, based on your experience, would you.
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B
Say that Lasik is a safe procedure?
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F
No.
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No, I wouldn't have. I wouldn't recommend or have anyone in my family have it done.
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C
What do you say to your patients.
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Who ask you about lasik?
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B
I tell them it's a terrible idea and don't go near it. Morris Waxler is a retired FDA advisor who voted to approve Lasik. He now says that vote was a mistake. Waxler says his own analysis of industry data shows complication rates between 10 and 30%. Do you think that this should be taken off the market?
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F
Absolutely.
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Absolutely should be banned. According to Dr. Waxler, who approved it. Like, that's a pretty. You know, that's a lot of humility, right? I approved it. The data that they presented to me, they lied about it and we approved it. And now we know how damning it has been. The FDA should pull it, but they haven't. When the FDA tried to step in and introduce a patient decision checklist in 2022, a form of sort of spelling out chronic pain, night blindness, even depression, the American Academy of Ophthalmology fought against it, claiming that it would needlessly frighten patients. They didn't deny the risks. They just didn't want to scare you enough to say, no, I don't want this procedure. Because it might. It might cause blindness. It might cause all of these other issues. This would be a huge money loss to the eye care industry. So of course they supported that and the media. Lasik centers spend big on advertising. Negative stories get drowned out, and they're hidden unless a tragedy makes national headlines. So here's the math on this. Even if the official 1% number, the serious complication rate is correct, that's still thousands of people every year. By that number, we wouldn't approve a vaccine because of adverse events. Well, now we do well under emergency use authorization for Covid BS. Exactly. But that's how you work around the 1%, you know, that's how you work around these adverse events. But if Dr. Waxler's numbers are right, we're talking hundreds of thousands of people annually. People with permanent dry eye, distorted vision, or worse. And again, this is all for an elective surgery on healthy eyes. Is that acceptable? Remember, too, that insurance companies no longer cover Lasik. It used to cost more than $10,000 a procedure, but the insurance industry said, we don't think it's necessary. This is more of a cosmetic procedure. And then the industry, guess what, went into hyperdrive, lowering the prices down to about 2,500 bucks. A procedure to be competitive against the amount of surgeries that they wanted. So they exploded across the United States. Oh, now it's super cheap. I can just get it done in an afternoon. I mean, Lasik, in my opinion, is a public health hazard. Being whitewashed by an industry afraid of losing customers. Both sides agree on one thing. Patient selection matters. The problem is the screening standards vary and borderline candidates still get approved. Like the individual I talked about earlier who had a thin cornea because it's all about making money. Just push them through the process. He's got a thin cornea. It doesn't matter. Just, he'll. He'll be fine. Then he takes his own life. Lasik is not inherently evil. Of course, millions of people are happy they got the procedure. But the happy stories shouldn't erase these horror stories of hundreds of thousands of.
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Patients with problems who didn't have informed.
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Consent, who didn't know that there were these problems because the ophthalmology Academy decided to step in and say, you don't get access to this information. Yeah, because we don't want to scare.
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You about that, given the risk benefits.
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So I'll ask you guys, Lasik, is it one big scam, or is it just an industry too willing to kind of look the other way? I mean, let me know down below, like, if you've had Lasik, good or bad. Share your story in the comments below. I'd love to hear about it. And by the way, share this story with some. Someone who might be considering picking up and getting Lasik in the future. Someone who's considering it.
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B
I'm not. I like my reading glasses.
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And I will say this. I had Lasik. I had it about 10 years ago, and they said it should last about 10 years. You might need to get a touch up after a certain point. And I Thought, oh, this is great. I was having a real hard time looking at close up and it was just a pain. So I thought it was great for like 10 years.
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B
But you're not doing it again.
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But I'm not doing it again.
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B
Your wife says no after that, but.
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No one told me the risks associated with this.
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B
Yeah.
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You know, and I did it back then and my gosh, like, it's terrifying now and I wear contacts now and you know, and I do have some dry eye issues, but I don't think it's related. I don't know who knows if it's related or not, but I personally wouldn't do it again. So I'd just be curious, like what all of you think about it.
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I'm glad you've come to that conclusion, honey, because having told me that now, I wouldn't sit through it like, I'm.
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Not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. Not gonna, not gonna, not gonna happen. Go ahead, Phil.
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Well, yeah, so the. If. If that number is correct at 1%. If, if, if, like, I guess I. Well, no, I, I was gonna say. Never mind. I was gonna say like the population, that would be like almost 4 million people. That'd be if everybody got Lasik. So just ignore me. I'm just doing math unnecessarily in the background and talking about it.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, I'd love to hear your thoughts on below. Okay, we'll take some of your super chats here in a second. We'll get to some of your comments. But first, first, first, first, first, first, first, I'm just going to pull up my eyes. I need to get my glasses out and say about our friends at American Financing, because what if you could delay your next two mortgage payments? That's right. Imagine putting those two payments in your pocket, finally getting a little breathing room ahead of the holidays. It's possible. When you call American Financing today, if you're feeling stretched by everyday expenses, groceries, gas, bills piling up, you're not alone. Most Americans are putting these expenses on credit cards right now. And credit card rates are insane in the 20s or even 30s. When Charlie Kirk was on Tucker's show just a few months ago, he was talking all about the American credit card crisis, especially among young people. American financing can show you how to use your home's equity to pay off that debt. With rates as low as in the fives, their salary based mortgage consultants are helping homeowners just like you, restructure their loans, save money every month, all without upfront fees. The Customers are saving an average of $800 a month. That's like a 10. That's like a $10,000 raise without having to change jobs. So call them now before it's too late. American Financing, 866-890-9392. Yes, that's 866-890. I'm sorry, I have two different phone numbers in here. So in our, in our, in our thing here. Anyway, it's 866-890-8434. Try that number. That's the best number to call. Ignore the one I just told you. 866-890-8434. It's right there on your screen. To American Financing.netacted or visit. Yeah, the website. American Financing.net redacted. Their NMLS number is 182334 and they're nmlsconsumeraccess.org APR rates in the fives start at 6.196% for well qualified borrowers. All right, let's see about some super chats here. Did any of you guys have Lasik? Where is my mouse? All right, I have Jennifer. Polynix says yeah.
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Oh, go ahead.
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No, I'm just listening to. I was asking. Go ahead.
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H
Oh, yeah, yeah. No, I, I haven't. I just, I just use my reading glasses. But I have considered it and I am now not.
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Optimistic realizer in our rumble chat says there are ways to naturally make your eyesight better without surgery. Yes. And, you know, I think that's a rabbit hole that I want to go down, to be honest with you. Optimistic realizer. I'd like to actually have an interview here on the show about that and do quite a bit of a deep dive on how to naturally heal your eyes. And I've heard a number of different things about, like being out in nature, you know, using your vision at a distance and a certain amount of time per day. There's a whole bunch of things you can do. And I know, I know it's a commitment, but hey, it's your eyesight, right? So we should be able to do that and heal ourselves. I'd like to know more about that, actually. Let's see. Jennifer Colonek says there is zero difference between Trump's FBI and obedience FBI. In my opinion. I think you're right. I think the evidence is in on that for sure. I think given the fact that there's still all of these deep state scumbags in the FBI still surrounding Cash Patel, like Steve Baker said on the show yesterday, he likes to give them the Benefit of the Doubt, Cash and Dan Bongino. But there's so many people still at the rot. The corruption inside the FBI. It is really one of the most corrupt institutions in our government. Again, a friend of mine, former FBI agent, and he told me, I literally spoke to him right as he was quitting, he was told to basically hide exculpatory. I think it was either exculpatory evidence or evidence that could have put an individual away for many, many years. And he discovered it and he was told by his FBI boss to hide the information and look the other way and he quit. Good for him. But that's the kind of stuff you have at the FBI, unfortunately. Let's see anything. Any Mark Spark says, thank you, Clayton. I've been hearing commercial, I've been seeing commercials for Lasik and I've been thinking about getting it. No way. Now. I mean, again, even if it's one, even if it's 1%, which is a lie, we know that number is false, but the industry keeps telling us that it's 1% with adverse problems, that's still thousands of people. Like, I'm not rolling the dice with my eyesight. I mean, can you imagine? Like, I understand. And it's so sad. These people that have like taken their lives and committed suicide as a result of that, I mean, just to think that they had, like, they had healthy eyes, they had some sight, you know, issues, maybe reading or distance, and they wanted to get it fixed. And like, ah, Lasik. I keep hearing all these advertisements for it and it's pretty cheap and I can do it in an afternoon and it should be great. I should be good to go. And then you, like, you lose the ability to see and oh my gosh, knowing that it was your choice and now I'm going to spend like the next 40 or 50 years of my life like this. It's awful. It's really terrible.
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But it also kind of brings up the idea of, like, is it really, Is it really? Because they. People that get it are going to think, oh, yeah, it was my decision to do it. But if you think about how pressured they are into it with the advertising, you know, your doctor recommending, oh, your eyesight's getting bad. You should probably look into Lasik. Like, like people are being steered and nudged towards it. It's not just like something that's out there that people like, you know what I think I'm going to. It's like, because they've been sort of like pushed that way.
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Right, right. It's the Same thing with dentistry. And you know Natalie's piece that she did with Dr. Ellie, Dr. Ellie Phillips a few weeks ago about the dental industry and what a scam that is. You see the commercials for it. You go to a baseball game and you'll see the local dentist has a billboard at the dentist at the game. You brush twice a day, which everyone does, and floss, like everyone does. And then you go to the dentist and you got cavities. I'm doing everything correctly. What's wrong here? And that's. Then they don't tell you the truth about it. Like, you don't need to drill your teeth out. You could actually remineralize your teeth using xylitol and other things and actually a procedure that can actually prevent this from happening. And by the way, don't use floss, like, that's a game changer. Don't use floss, yeah. Why? Because the microplastics also, it pushes the bacteria further down into your gum lines, causing cavities. But they don't tell you this stuff because it's a massive industry and so they make more money off of drilling in your teeth. They make a lot of money from drilling in your teeth and doing all of this stuff, you know, so. And root canals and everything else they can charge you for. So they don't want to tell you this. So let's see, someone in the chat just said, yeah, maybe not being on a screen 12 hours a day, that might help people improve their eyesight. Yeah, that's for sure. I bet it would be really curious to see a study. I don't know if there's any studies comprehensively about this, but for people who work outside most of their day on construction sites, you know, forest rangers, whatever. Right, Loggers. But being outside, landscapers, being outside all day, well, we know the health benefits of that, right? They're in the sun, they're on their feet, they're working. Right. They're going to live longer anyway than people that sit at a desk all day and are looking at a computer. We know that there's like, what is it, like, 10 years? They live like eight or 10 years longer or something. But it'd be interesting to know the eyesight differences because where we live there's a lot of construction happening around us. A couple homes are being built and stuff like that. I don't see any of them wearing glasses now. They're wearing like protective eyewear, but I don't see any of them wearing glasses. So it'd be interesting. I wonder if there's a deep dive study on this, I'm just curious because their eyes are having to work at a distance constantly looking at the horizon, looking at their work across a room they're building or framing a house, et cetera, et cetera, you know, and then you're sitting at a computer just staring at text for eight hours a day. Be very curious about that. Green Thumb school says I'm able to give up my sunglasses this past summer in 2025. I'm 66 years old now. I missed your earlier comment there. You're talking about, like, you stopped wearing sunglasses. I know they say wearing sunglasses are pretty terrible for your eyes. I've read studies on this, and again, they don't want it. This is information they don't want you to know about. They want you to buy glasses. They want you to go to the ophthalmologist. Can you heal yourself naturally with certain things? I've heard repeatedly that sunglasses are not good for you and you shouldn't be wearing them. Why are people keep saying Benny Johnson in the chat room? I don't know what that's about. Transhumanism. Let's see. Oh, cat side 77. Thank you for your $20. Super chat says I'm a logger and I have no eye issues between being in the Marine Corps and a deputy sheriff in the past, I've always been able to keep my eye on the target. That's incredible. That's incredible. I think there's definitely something to being outside and using your eyesight at distances and. But how do you handle. That's the thing. It's like my. I struggle to, like, look down at my watch or something in my hand, right? So I can see great at a distance, but I have difficulty now, like, looking at. I have to, like, hold my watch out, like, at a distance to, like, see it, you know? Let's see. Tool DK says I had Lasek, not Lasik, because I heard a lot of bad about Lasik about 20 years ago. What is Lasek? L A S E K. Yes, it hurts a lot for a few days, but it was the best decision I ever made. It's only within the last few years my eyesight has changed. What's the difference between La Sec and Lasik? I've never even heard of the difference of that. Does anybody know?
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C
Huh?
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A
I'm gonna look this up right now. I love when my team is texting, they're having a whole conversation that's totally unrelated to the show.
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H
Yeah, you and me both. Especially in one of the text chats that we. That I have to look at because there's some that are, you know, important that I have to look at. And that's why we have some that are not. So I can click ignore and I don't have to look at them over. Doing a live show.
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No.
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It looks like David's sending funny memes about himself being a LASIK expert. He's not a LASIK expert at all. Did he have lasik? He did.
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H
Yes, he did.
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A
Okay. But he has all sorts of eye problems. Right? That's.
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H
I don't. I don't know. I haven't checked up with him about how his eyesight is doing.
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A
Yeah. So let's see the difference between. The main difference is how the cornea is treated. LASIK is the laser assisted corneal flap is created using the process. Excuse me. Excuse me. Clayton. Yep.
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F
Clayton.
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For the record, I was not texting. So Grim is actually paying attention to the show. I'm paying attention. Just letting you know that. Just want to be clear so the audience knows. Team does not include Grim. Thank you. That's right. David is the catalyst for this. He's like a cat with one of those, like, little balls, you know, he's like. So LASIK uses the corneal flap. Okay. And it uses this laser. LASEQ is the laser assisted subepithelial kerectomy. Instead of cutting a flap, the surface layer is loosened using an alcohol solution and then it's moved aside. The laser reshapes the underlying tissue and the epithelial layer is placed back over the cornea. It's a thinner lift, so no deep flap is created. LASIK shows that vision improves almost immediately within 24 hours. Lasek has a longer healing time, up to four to seven days. And full vision recovery may take up to one to two weeks, sometimes longer. You know what's weird? Now that I think about it, I have to go back and look at my records. I may have had LASEK L A s E K 10 years ago. I wonder if that's what I had. I have to go through and see if that's what I had. I don't remember. But I do remember it took. You know, it wasn't like immediate. Like my eyesight wasn't like, hey, I look great now. It's. It was like, took a little while. So that could have been the one that I had. I didn't even know the difference, to be honest with you. Thank you for telling me that. I know it was a one considered. Yeah. Within corneas. Interesting. Interesting. Appreciate that.
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C
101.
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Dude says monkey Works announced that Trump is flying Middle east shitbags to the United States as we speak. Okay. Yeah. Thank you, Harrison. Got it. Okay. Yeah. Never sunglasses. Bono says, never sunglasses.
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H
I had never heard that they were a problem, but I just like, probably two or three years ago, just stopped wearing them completely for no real reason whatsoever. So that's interesting.
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Yeah, I don't use. I almost never wear sunglasses. With sunglasses, you get faster. Skin burns connecting rabbit holes. Says, huh, Guinness helps me see better. Tearjerker says, yes, I agree. Nothing like a cold Guinness. Gabriel says, my daughter has Lasik at 25. About eight years later, she started to see changes in the eye prescription. She went back to the same doctor. This thing's skirts away. I'm sorry, couldn't finish that thought. This thing moves too damn quickly. Damn it. Cat. Cat. Indc says what? Flossing?
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No.
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Yeah, yeah. You got to watch the. Watch the interview that Natalie did with Dr. Ellie Phillips on the Channel V. Gregory says it's obvious more than one person killed Charlie. Come on, man. Oh, I totally agree with you 100%. Maybe not pulled the trigger, but was actively involved in it. Whether it's the COVID up or the planning. One thing really interesting too is how is this guy. How did this guy know and tell his gay lover that he'd been planning this for more than a week.
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C
Where.
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Exactly he would be, shooting location, et cetera. And yet TPUSA and the school didn't release the exact location of where Charlie would be until the day before. In fact, like the evening before. Yes, they knew he was coming to the campus, but there was no. Was it going to be inside? Was it going to be in a concert hall? Was it going to be in the stadium? Was it going to be some. There was no planning, There was no announcement that he was going to be in that location. Announced was not announced ahead of time. It was only announced the night before. So when Tyler Robinson says that he's been planning it for a week, like how he would get into position, like all of those things. Well, how. How did you know where he would be? Because no one knew where he would be. So who told you where he would be? It's all very interesting. I hope that comes out in the trial. JB Mint in Texas says I wear sunglasses at night. Yes. We are live every day Monday through Thursday at 4pm Eastern time. Thank you guys for being a part of our community here. Really appreciate it. Thanks to the tens of thousands of you that Watch us on a daily basis. We, we really appreciate it and we work hard to earn your viewership. We really try to. We try to work hard on this show and cover the stories the mainstream media ignores. And I like to cover stuff that is kind of off the beaten path as well and things that you're not going to hear anywhere else. So thank you guys for being a part of our show. We really appreciate it. Really appreciate it. Nadine says, yeah, people who got the jab had sudden eye decline as well. Yeah, a little surprising there, isn't it? I've heard a lot of those stories, actually. Ellie, Elise says, Elise Grady says, says thank you for doing these live shows. The comments are interesting. Yeah, that's the thing. I love our community because people are going to say, you know, people have all sorts of different opinions. I just say, like, let's follow the evidence wherever it leads. Let's follow the facts. Like, for instance, you know, covering like October 7th. Yeah. Hamas carried out a horrific killing of IDF soldiers at military bases and outposts along that wall. Grabbed civilians. Absolutely. Grabbed hostages. It was brutal. But we don't just look at that part of the story. We need to also ask, why did Israel stand down for those hours and tell IDF soldiers to not do anything? Why were they given that intelligence well ahead of time and told to stand down and allow those young IDF soldiers to be killed, put out there as cannon fodder? Like, how can you only look at one part of a story and I have no agenda. I want to look at everything. So, yeah, let's look at the horrific things that Hamas did. Let's also look at the horrific things that Netanyahu did. Allowing these young IDF soldiers to be killed, putting them out there, knowing that this attack was coming. The most heavily guarded and watched fence line in the world. You mean to tell me, you guys on a. Guys on a donkey coming through.
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Sure.
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