Episode Overview

Podcast: Redacted News
Hosts: Natali & Clayton Morris
Guest: Jen Dillon (Researcher, Electronic Homeopath)
Episode: "What They Don't Tell You About The Spike Protein"
Date: November 1, 2025

This episode delves into COVID spike protein persistence and the potential of a homeopathic-based detox protocol (HSD) developed by Jen Dillon. Through case studies and grassroots research, Dillon discusses symptomatic relief reported by people dealing with lingering health issues after COVID infection or vaccination. The conversation also covers the mechanisms behind the HSD protocol, the challenges of running independent trials, and a call for broader, more integrative medical approaches.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Introduction to the HSD Protocol

• Spike Protein & Lingering Symptoms
  • Natali sets the context by addressing lingering health problems such as myocarditis, vision changes, and neurological issues seen post-COVID or vaccination.
• Protocol Overview
  • Jen Dillon has created the Homeopathic Spike Detox Protocol (HSD): a sucrose-based homeopathic remedy purported to help the body eliminate residual spike proteins and restore cellular function.
  • Early case studies include reversal of myocarditis, vision restoration, and resolution of neurological symptoms.

2. Evidence and Clinical Trials

• Measurement and Testing (02:18)

  • HSD protocol success is measured through before-and-after blood tests (S1 immune subset via monocyte markers), MC cardiograms for cardiovascular impact, and OTC scans for ocular inflammation.
  • Example: Retinal edema in a vaccine-injured patient decreased from 500 to 200 (normal) over eight weeks of the protocol.

• Grassroots Research Model (03:46–05:23)

  • The clinical trial is independent, integrating Western medical and holistic practitioners.
  • Currently, over 20 practitioners are involved; costs such as specialized testing are supported through private donors due to lack of grants.
  • The only two labs known to offer the S1 monocyte blood test are being utilized for before/after diagnostics.

3. Scientific Rationale and Methodology

• How HSD Works (03:32–08:27)
  • Based on “electronic homeopathic coded signatures”—frequencies imprinted on a sucrose carrier intended to stimulate cellular communication and detoxification.
  • References to “Water Memory” (2014 documentary) and pioneering scientific work by Dr. Michael Levine and Prof. Luc Montagnier.
  • “Your cells are the same way [as a cellphone]. They either receive a disruption, or they receive a frequency and they can communicate. And without the proper frequency to communicate, then your system can’t talk to your whole system.” (B, 09:43)
  • The protocol targets four systems: cardiovascular, neurological, digestive, and respiratory, taken once a week for eight weeks.

4. Inclusivity, Shedding, and Exposure

• Who Could Benefit? (11:15–14:19)
  • Both vaccine-injured and people with long COVID may test positive for spike protein.
  • Some non-vaccine individuals test positive for certain markers, possibly from COVID infection or shed proteins.
  • Affirmation of “shedding” as a theory, and suggestion that spike protein could be contracted from the virus itself:
    • “I do believe in the theory of shedding. Actually, I don’t think it’s a theory.” (B, 13:05)

5. Protocol Use & Research Expansion

• Frequency & Ongoing Risk (14:19–16:28)
  • HSD is recommended once or twice a year; more frequently for severe long COVID or vaccine-injured individuals.
  • Practitioners are encouraged to join the clinical trial; donations sought to help those unable to afford testing/protocol fees.
  • “I don’t want to give a message of fear, I want to give a message of hope. I don’t think there’s enough of that in this realm right now.” (B, 15:19)

6. The Publishing Dilemma and Medical Establishment Critique

• Skepticism of Mainstream Medical Journals (16:28–18:09)
  • Both guest and host criticize the politicization of journals like JAMA.
  • Publishing in such outlets is considered expensive and sometimes futile for independent research:
    • “Dr. Peter McCullough told me it’s $6,000 a page to publish and they can turn around and redact you.” (B, 16:55)
    • “It’s not a goal... and this is why I’m excited about the research we’re doing.” (B, 18:09)
  • Enrolment: $200 for the 8-week protocol plus monitored care; blood testing at $360 (negotiated rate); financial support is available for those in hardship.

7. Message of Hope and Case Study Highlight

• Hope for the Vaccine-Injured (19:54–23:40)
  • The medical community is not well-equipped to help vaccine-injured patients. Dillon emphasizes perseverance:
    • “There’s hope. Don’t give up hope. Stay strong.” (B, 19:54)
  • Memorable Case:
    • “Jackie,” a school employee, was left with profound fatigue, heart murmur, and shortness of breath after two vaccinations. After the HSD protocol, she reported restored energy, no more heart murmur, improved sense of taste, and a drastic reduction in mouth inflammation as confirmed by her dentist.
    • “The assistant brought the dentist into the room and said, what have you done... the inflammation is gone.” (B, 22:45)

Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• On Cellular Communication:
  “Your cells are the same way... Without the proper frequency to communicate, then your system can’t talk to your whole system.” – Jen Dillon [09:43]

• On Hope:
  “There’s hope. Don’t give up hope... as soon as you give up, that’s an energetic response to shut down.” – Jen Dillon [19:54]

• On Lack of Mainstream Support:
  “I don’t want to give a message of fear, I want to give a message of hope. I don’t think there’s enough of that in this realm right now.” – Jen Dillon [15:19]

• On Medical Journals:
  “Dr. Peter McCullough told me it’s $6,000 a page to publish and they can turn around and redact you.” – Jen Dillon [16:55]

Memorable Moments

• Case Story: Jackie (20:56–23:39):
  Recovery from severe post-vaccination symptoms and striking reduction of inflammation, with confirmation from her dentist and improved everyday functioning.
• Explanation of Bioelectricity & Frequency Medicine (08:27–11:04):
  Analogy between cellular communication and cell phones, the rationale behind frequency therapies, and references to leading researchers in the field.

Key Timestamps

• 00:00 – Introduction and overview of HSD and initial case outcomes
• 02:18 – Case study results and medical testing methodology
• 03:46 – Development and foundations of the homeopathic protocol
• 08:27 – Bioelectricity and frequency communication in cells explained
• 11:15 – Involvement of Western and alternative medicine practitioners
• 13:05 – Discussion around spike protein exposure, “shedding” theory
• 14:19 – Protocol dosing frequency and ongoing exposure
• 16:28 – Frustrations with mainstream medical publishing
• 19:54 – Advice for vaccine-injured patients; message of hope
• 20:56 – Detailed recounting of the Jackie case study

Final Thoughts

This episode presents a comprehensive discussion of the HSD protocol for spike protein detox, highlighting alternative and integrative approaches to persistent post-COVID/vaccine health issues. Jen Dillon shares optimism grounded in her team’s grassroots clinical trial work, encouraging collaboration, further research, and a broader outlook on potential solutions—especially for those left without help from conventional medicine.

Learn more: getdetoxed.us and docintheloop.com