WW3 ALERT! Europe pushes for war against Russia as Trump pushes peace and cutting off Zelensky

Summary

Redacted News Podcast Summary
Episode: WW3 ALERT! Europe Pushes for War Against Russia as Trump Pushes Peace and Cutting Off Zelensky
Release Date: March 4, 2025
Hosts: Clayton Morris and Natalie Morris
Knowledge Cutoff: October 2023

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Introduction

In this high-stakes episode of Redacted News, hosts Clayton Morris and Natalie Morris delve into the escalating tensions between Europe and Russia, juxtaposed against former President Donald Trump's efforts to broker peace by cutting off aid to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. The discussion also touches upon socio-political issues, including the implications of sex change surgeries on mental health and the role of censorship in the European Union.

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Europe’s Escalation Towards Conflict with Russia

Timestamp: [00:20] - [05:35]

Clayton Morris initiates the conversation by highlighting Europe’s aggressive stance towards Russia, warning of a potential World War III scenario fueled by increased military support and weaponry to Ukraine. He contrasts this with Trump’s advocacy for peace and a ceasefire. The intensity of Europe’s actions raises concerns about nuclear warfare.

• Clayton Morris: “Europe is trying to court Zelensky with money and weapons to push for World War III against Russia… What are they playing at? Nuclear war, I guess.” [00:20]

Natalie Morris introduces a study indicating that sex change surgeries are linked to increased mental health issues, questioning the ongoing push for gender transitions.

• Natalie Morris: “Why do we still push people towards sex changes in the name of gender transition?” [00:48]

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Trump’s Peace Initiative vs. Europe’s Warpath

Timestamp: [05:35] - [12:54]

The hosts discuss a recent explosive White House meeting where tensions between Trump and Zelensky escalated. According to the Daily Caller, Zelensky’s rigid script and demands for security guarantees clashed with Trump’s reluctance to include weapons in mineral agreements, leading to a heated exchange.

• Trump’s Statement on Zelensky: “This is the worst statement that could have been put up by Zelensky and America will not put up with it for much longer.” [05:35]

Chris Rossini from the Ron Paul Institute praises Trump’s decision to halt weapons sales to Ukraine, viewing it as a long-overdue move to end the conflict.

• Chris Rossini: “Zelensky is the one that helped to push that happen. So from that perspective, I'm very happy.” [06:58]

Natalie Morris criticizes European leaders, labeling them as warmongers akin to Tony Blair’s stance during the Iraq War, and points out the lack of genuine democratic support for prolonged conflict.

• Natalie Morris: “They are trying to lead their people into a war... These are the people who want more.” [05:35]

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Poland’s Conflicted Role in NATO and the Russian Conflict

Timestamp: [16:05] - [31:06]

Clayton Morris shifts focus to Poland, describing its current political confusion and desperate stance between hosting NATO bases and pushing for war against Russia. Prime Minister Donald Tusk’s condemnation of Trump’s peace efforts exacerbates the situation.

• Clayton Morris: “Poland seems desperate and confused... pushing for all-out war against Russia.” [19:08]

Guest Dr. Michael Krupa analyzes Poland’s alignment with Brussels and the European Union, suggesting that Poland’s politicians are influenced by EU directives rather than the will of their populace.

• Dr. Michael Krupa: “Donald Tusk will go anywhere Brussels tells him to… we are not looking for a nuclear war with Russia.” [20:47]

Natalie questions whether Poland can ever align with Trump’s peace initiatives, considering their deep involvement with EU policies and propaganda.

• Natalie Morris: “Are they just too deep? They are through the looking glass and they can’t come back.” [22:55]

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Censorship and Propaganda in the European Union

Timestamp: [37:04] - [52:11]

The conversation transitions to the increasing censorship within the EU, with Germany and the UK implementing measures to curb free speech under the guise of combating misinformation and propaganda.

• Clayton Morris: “In Germany, the government has launched an advice center for those who think that a family member or a friend has spread conspiracy theories.” [40:25]

Guest Ralph Schoellhammer from Austria warns of the "censorship industrial complex," where NGOs funded by the government suppress dissent and promote pro-war narratives.

• Ralph Schoellhammer: “They have a very specific left-wing bias, but they are taxpayer-funded... tilt the playing field.” [49:15]

Natalie highlights how European governments, especially influenced by Brussels, are entrenching propaganda to support the war effort, stifling public dissent.

• Natalie Morris: “Prime Minister signed a 100-year agreement to support Ukraine... implement joint media initiatives to promote the war.” [40:44]

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Economic Impact of Trump’s Tariffs on American Manufacturing

Timestamp: [52:11] - [66:42]

Clayton and Natalie examine the repercussions of Trump’s tariff policies aimed at revitalizing American manufacturing. Despite opposition claims that tariffs would harm consumers by raising prices, Guest Dr. Michael Krupa argues that when implemented correctly, tariffs can protect domestic industries and encourage companies like Apple, Volkswagen, and Honda to establish factories in the U.S.

• Dr. Michael Krupa: “Tariffs obviously are the stick. What’s the carrot? Tax cuts, regulatory cuts...” [57:24]

Clayton notes the surge in companies relocating production to the U.S. as a direct response to Trump's tariffs, challenging the narrative that American consumers will bear the brunt of increased costs.

• Clayton Morris: “Apple is going to add 20,000… Honda’s building Civics here.” [59:17]

Dr. Krupa contends that tariffs can be an effective tool when paired with deregulation and tax incentives, fostering a conducive environment for manufacturing growth and higher wages.

• Dr. Michael Krupa: “We need to protect our industries from unfair competition abroad... regulatory cuts.” [57:24]

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Public Sentiment on NATO Membership

Timestamp: [31:06] - [68:21]

A live poll conducted during the podcast reveals a staggering 93% of viewers support the United States leaving NATO, reflecting significant public dissatisfaction with the alliance's current trajectory.

• Poll Result Announcement: “95% of you say that the United States should leave NATO.” [37:04]

Hosts encourage listeners to share their reasons for supporting NATO withdrawal, suggesting a potent shift in American foreign policy sentiment.

• Clayton Morris: “Why do you think we shouldn’t leave NATO? Let me know in the comments.” [55:08]

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Closing Remarks and Future Projections

Timestamp: [68:21] - End

Clayton Morris wraps up the episode by forecasting presidential actions, including Trump’s imminent address to Congress, which may further escalate or de-escalate the current tensions with Europe and Russia. The hosts reiterate the importance of staying informed through their newsletter and upcoming shows, promising continued coverage of these critical geopolitical developments.

• Clayton Morris: “Tomorrow, of course, President Trump is gonna address the joint session of Congress... we’ll see over the next 48 hours what that looks like.” [66:42]

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Notable Quotes

1. Clayton Morris:
   “Europe is trying to court Zelensky with money and weapons to push for World War III against Russia… What are they playing at? Nuclear war, I guess.”
   [00:20]

2. Chris Rossini:
   “Zelensky is the one that helped to push that happen. So from that perspective, I'm very happy.”
   [06:58]

3. Ralph Schoellhammer:
   “They have a very specific left-wing bias, but they are taxpayer-funded... tilt the playing field.”
   [49:15]

4. Dr. Michael Krupa:
   “Tariffs obviously are the stick. What’s the carrot? Tax cuts, regulatory cuts...”
   [57:24]

5. Clayton Morris:
   “Tomorrow, of course, President Trump is gonna address the joint session of Congress... we’ll see over the next 48 hours what that looks like.”
   [66:42]

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Conclusion

This episode of Redacted News presents a critical examination of Europe's aggressive policies towards Russia, the Trump administration's counter-efforts for peace, internal EU censorship, and the economic implications of tariff strategies. With high listener engagement reflected in live polls, the podcast underscores a growing movement questioning longstanding alliances and advocating for American sovereignty and free speech.

For those seeking unfiltered analysis and alternative perspectives on global events, Redacted News continues to provide in-depth discussions and expert insights.

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Disclaimer: The views expressed in this summary are based solely on the provided transcript and do not reflect the assistant's opinions or endorsements.

Transcript

[Clayton Morris]

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Wake up, everybody. Welcome into Redacted on this Monday. I'm Clayton Morris.

[Natalie Morris]

I'm Natalie Morris.

[Clayton Morris]

Hope you guys had an eventful weekend because Europe certainly had an eventful weekend trying to court Volodymyr Zelensky, basically saying, hey, we're going to throw a whole bunch of money at you, a whole bunch of weapons. Let's push for World War three against Russia. Like, what are they playing at? Nuclear war, I guess. Meanwhile, the Trump White House is pushing for peace and saying, you know, Zelinsky, you're welcome back anytime if you want to actually talk about a ceasefire and actual peace for this minerals deal. So we're going to look at all angles of that because over the past few hours there's been some big developments on this.

[Natalie Morris]

That's right. Plus a new study out shows that when you actually change your body with surgery, sex change surgery, it increases your risks of mental health problems such as anxiety, depression and suicidal ideation. This is not new. This is consistent with what the data has long since said. So why, I ask you, do we still push people towards sex changes in gender in the name of gender transition?

[Clayton Morris]

Great question. Yeah, great question.

[Natalie Morris]

That's the question.

[Clayton Morris]

That is the question. We're also going to talk about Poland and NATO. Poland seems to be in a schizophrenic moment right now. On the one hand, they've got all these NATO bases and they have a huge influence with NATO and they also, the Polish people don't seem to want to die in a war, in a massive war. So why are Polish politicians pushing further and further for World War iii? We're going to talk about all of these things today. We've got a lot of great guests. The world is on edge right now. And President Trump about to give his big, big meeting before Congress tomorrow, his joint session to Congress. What will he say there? We're going to talk about tariffs coming up at the end of the show as well, because the huge move on tariffs, a number of big companies coming to the United States. So we're going to talk about all of that and more.

[Natalie Morris]

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[Clayton Morris]

Well, we are in a World War 3 moment right now as President Trump pushes for peace, cutting off all US Aid to Ukraine. That a big meeting today. Are they going to cut off all aid to Ukraine? I love that. Mike Lee, Senator Mike Lee posted that on Twitter, on Twitter X today and he said, who supports this? Give us thumbs up. I gave 30 thumbs up to that post. Europe is lining up, though, meanwhile, to go directly to war with Russia. And the end game to me is nuclear war, because what else are you going to achieve? Do you think that Russia is just going to roll over? The White House right now just made a statement saying that time isn't on Zelinsky's side. So we'll get to the latest here in a moment, but first we're learning more about what happened during that explosive White House meeting last week. According to the Daily Caller, the meeting was supposed to go just as any state meeting would go. A quote. This was set up to be like every other state visit. A senior aide reportedly recalled this was an Oval Office spray. They'd be cordial handshake, take a couple of questions and then they'd have lunch. But then all hell broke loose. The plan went up in smoke when Zelensky arrived and immediately was sort of sticking to a script that it looked like he had. He might have had earlier meetings with Susan Rice, Victoria Nuland, before he arrived at the White House, telling him, basically, don't go with this deal, push for security guarantees. We want troops, we want weapons, which President Trump has repeatedly said he would not include in their mineral agreements. So why are you trying to torpedo this deal? You know what's in this thing. Then the fireworks went off in the Oval Office. And of course, we now know today, according to the Associated Press, Ukraine, Zelinsky says the end of the war with Russia is very, very far away. To which Donald Trump responded, this is the worst statement that could have been put up by Zelensky and America will not put up with it for much longer. It's what I was saying. This guy doesn't want there to be peace as long he has, as long as he has America's backing. And Europe in the meeting they had with Zelensky stating flatly that they cannot do the job without the United States. Probably not a great statement to have been made in terms of a show of strength against Russia. What are they thinking? Trump said, now, here are the warmongers. That meant this weekend, of course, they all came together in Europe, in London. In London, there's Zelensky.

[Natalie Morris]

Claire Daly is calling them a cover band for the Tony Blair warmongering efforts around the Iraq war. They're basically doing the same thing. They're lying to the, to the world, actually, that stand with Ukraine is the new weapons of mass destruction and they are trying to lead their people into a war. And again, we must remind ourselves that the people standing there, most of them have failed. Up. Ursula von der Leyen has never been elected by the people, was only named in elections after her party won. We're looking at, let's see, Antonio Costa ousted for a green deal scandal in Portugal. Mark Ruta, who was ousted in the Netherlands as the leader there, promised to end his career in politics. These are the people who want more.

[Clayton Morris]

So Chris Rossini is the director of the Ron Paul Institute. He's been watching all of this very closely here as of course, and co host of the Liberty Report with Ron Paul and staunch advocates against actually going to war. I mean, we're an anti war show. So, Chris, great to have you here on the show. Welcome in. I just want to get your sense of where do you think things sit today? We saw all the back and forth throughout the afternoon. President Trump basically threatening to cut off all aid to Ukraine. Europe embracing Zelensky looking to put boots on the Ground now in Ukraine. Where do you think things stand now?

[Chris Rossini]

Well, I'm actually kind of pleased. Not kind of. I'm very pleased to see that the president is going to halt weapons sales to Ukraine. This is long overdue. And ironically, it was Zelensky that pushed him over the edge. Of all people. I was no fan of the mineral deals and keeping a foothold in Ukraine, the most corrupt country in the world. We should just walk away from the place. And Zelensky is the one that helped to push that happen. So from that perspective, I'm very happy. And as far as Europe, while they are acting tough, but they always have their. Well, we need the United States. Well, that's not going to happen. And they may in the previous world wars have had our. You know, we've had their back. But this time is different. We're not looking for a nuclear war with Russia, with President Trump. Thank goodness he's the one that is in office and not Kamala Harris. So I think things are looking up after looking so dire for so long.

[Natalie Morris]

Well, I'm happy to hear your confidence. Fox News from the White House said that the word on the street is that nothing will happen unless Zelinsky apologizes. And here's why. I don't like it. It's almost like when your girlfriend has a boyfriend. You don't want them to be together, and you're like, don't take his calls, girl, because you know what's going to happen. You're just going to get back together. I don't want an apology from Zelinsky. I don't want to thank you from Zelinsky. I want to end. So is this a way where Zelinsky can sort of Eddie Haskell his way back and just sort of weasel his way back into a weapons deal?

[Chris Rossini]

I. I'm sure he feels like he's going to have to. I agree with you. I think we should cut, you know, cut the ties clean, and then peace will be forced to happen because we have dragged this war out with our money and our weapons. And so many people have needlessly died on both sides, but especially Ukraine, because they're fighting a superpower and they weren't able to prevail despite all the money and all the weapons and all the money that's gone that they can't find, so to speak. So to put an end to this, it just has to end. But, you know, politics is cronyism and they want minerals and they want to leave American companies there, just get out of there. Because the place is a. It's nothing but trouble for our country.

[Dr. Michael Krupa]

Yeah.

[Clayton Morris]

We're going to talk about Europe here in a few minutes with a couple of other guests. So I won't bother you with the European side of this too much. I do want to get your Washington perspective, specifically in the warmongers. Your co host Ron Paul has dealt with up against these warmongers for decades. And so it was reported that before Zelensky sat down with Trump, that this had already been ironed out, that warmongers like Victoria Nuland, Susan Rice had already gotten in his ear the old Obama regime, the warmongers who wanted to keep this thing going. The military machine basically told him to scuttle this thing from the beginning. Does that surprise you? And how much of a wall does Trump face to deal with these warmongers in Washington who might try to subvert him?

[Chris Rossini]

Well, I mean, his first administration was a, hopefully a learning lesson for him. It was, it was a learning lesson for all of us that you can't surround yourself with people that are at odds with your worldview. And if you want peace with Russia, you can't surround yourself with neocons that want war with either Russia, China, Iran or anybody else. So I think perhaps he has learned his lesson. He had to put people in his cabinet that had to get approved. You know, the Senate is not our best friend, so he had to have candidates. But so far, I think everything is going okay. But, you know, we still have four years to go, and I'm never comfortable with Marco Rubio, so, I mean, we'll see what happens going forward so far with Ukraine, I'm pleased.

[Natalie Morris]

What about economic deals with Russia, which is blowing my mind. RT over the weekend, Post reported that possibly the Trump administration is interested in being an investor in the Nord Stream 2 pipeline after the Biden administration blew it up and the first Trump administration had said, we don't want Nord Stream 2 to become a reality. We'll sanction it to death. And now the Trump administration's like, anything and everything that will provide. Right. That will provide cheap energy for our people to grow our economy. Is that the way you see it or is there another way to see it?

[Chris Rossini]

Well, I, I noticed that Russia, Russia wants to end this war. Putin is making it so obvious saying that make a minerals deal with us. We have more minerals than Ukraine does. Right. Same thing. He wants to resume travel between Russia and the United States. This is awesome. Instead of going to nuclear war, we could get along with Russia, which is a natural resource powerhouse. That's why? Globalists have always wanted it for hundreds of years. They wanted to carve it up for themselves. And Russia stood up for themselves and saved their nation. Kind of like what we're doing with our own nation with President Trump. So I'm happy we should get along. Get along with Russia, China, Iran. We could trade with anybody. There is no reason to put hundreds of thousands or even millions of lives at risk when we could just trade for whatever resources they have. So I hope the more deals that they can strike with Russia, the better, because that will make war that more unlikely.

[Clayton Morris]

Chris Rossini, co host of the Liberty Report, and really great to have you here on the show. Director of the Ron Paul Institute. We like your way of thinking around here. Anti war. Get out of this corrupt country. Bring our resources and interests back home to the United States. Thank you. Chris. Great to see you. Thank you so much.

[Chris Rossini]

Thank you.

[Clayton Morris]

Nice to start off the week on a pro peace message, isn't it?

[Natalie Morris]

Yeah.

[Clayton Morris]

Finally around here.

[Natalie Morris]

Exactly. Exactly Right. Did you guys understand this Eddie Haskell reference I made between Zelensky and. Is that too dated of a reference? Because even I was not around when Leave it to Beaver was new on the air. I just wanted to make that clear.

[Clayton Morris]

All for nostalgia.

[Natalie Morris]

I don't know, Philip, you know Leave it to Beaver, the Eddie Haskell.

[Clayton Morris]

Yes, I am aware of it. Yes. I used to watch Leave it to Beaver and My Three Sons after school.

[Ralph Schoellhammer]

When I was in.

[Natalie Morris]

Yes, okay. All right. Just making sure. My dad used to call my boyfriends Eddie Haskell's. That was not a good thing. So I'm very familiar with that archetype.

[Clayton Morris]

All right, we've got more news to get to. Are we going to do this?

[Natalie Morris]

Yes, we are. Okay. A new study shows what is a consistent trend that gender transformation only makes mental health worse. We're talking about surgical transformation or sex changes. We already knew that gender transformation or sex changes increase the risk of suicide. That's for all. Transformation. That means if you change your identity and your name and your pronouns. We know from this study that that increases suicidality. We now know from many new studies. Here is just a new one. Come. Coming from 2025, February of 2025, showing that a surgical sex change increases the risk of depression, anxiety, suicidal ideation and substance use disorders than those who do not undergo surgery. Well, who would have predicted that having an experimental procedure would make people so uncomfortable? These procedures lead to sterilization. They also create lifelong pharmaceutical patients. They are painful and they increase a person's focus on passing as Another gender. Nobody would want this for their loved one to go around hyperfocused on how the world perceives you. This study, surprisingly, does not suggest that these procedures stop because they are associated with harm. It suggests the need for ongoing gender sensitive medical health support for transgender individuals post surgery. But here's the rub. There's no proven method of supporting people post surgery, so that too is experimental. They're just guessing that they can do better by supporting these people, which again, is experimental. So it to my mind, that's very cruel. Maybe a kinder thing to do would be to tell people we're going to totally disassemble and then reassemble your body. A lot of it won't work anymore. It will hurt a lot. It will make you anxious and afraid. And there is a lot, a large contingency of people who regret it. And you will have a lifelong need for heavy duty pharmaceuticals. And even all after all of that, people will probably still perceive you as the opposite gender because human instinct exists. This is not. That would be the kinder thing to say. But instead, the study doesn't say that. It just guesses that there's probably a magical way of helping people when they actually go through this post surgery. So it's a cruelty. But another data point that's consistent with what we, we already knew.

[Clayton Morris]

We've got more news to get to here on your Monday, a jam packed show. I want to look at Poland because they're in the epicenter of this madness right now in Europe. And I guess you could describe them as sort of a schizophrenic moment right now in Poland. Desperate, confused. On the one hand, all of those Ukrainian refugees that poured into the country destabilized the entire country. NATO bases in Poland. Trump says he wants to have a good relationship with Poland, but Poland seems like it wants to go to war with Russia. So what the hell's going on in Poland? We're going to talk about that in just a second. It's really at the center of all of this. But, guys, I want you to pay attention to this company. I am super excited to tell you about Moink. Okay, so just so you understand, four companies control 80% of the meat processing in the United States. China controls the largest amount of pork in the United States, over 60% of all pork producers because of China. And let me tell you about a company that's coming up swinging on behalf of the American family farms right now and your family's food security, and that is Moink, because a lot of These companies out there, they use like mobster like tactics to crush American family farms. And it's amazing. The founder of this company, did you know, and I didn't know this until I spoke with the company a few weeks ago. The, the company's CEO, she told me something shocking, that there are more suicides from American farmers than there are US veterans because it is just so incredibly difficult up against these machines that try to crush American farmers. And so she is stand strong with this company. It's a really an amazing company. And this, the business is simple. Moink's meat comes from animals raised outdoors where a pig is free to be a pig. Their farmers are given an honest day's pay for an honest day's work and they deliver meat straight to your doorstep at prices you can actually afford. And when I spoke to the company's CEO, she's amazing. She said, clayton, if you don't like my bacon, I will never be friends with you. She's like, the taste will knock your socks off. It's unbelievable. And not like confined animals and buildings and all of this stuff. And so I'm just thrilled, really, really thrilled to have them here on the show. Give them a try, guys. Just give them a try. American farmers, not Chinese farmers. They're in america. Go to moinkbox.com redacted and right now, if you sign up, you'll get free wings for life. That's right, support American farms. Join the Moink movement [e-mail] redacted right now. Get free wings for life. They're the best wings you will ever taste for free. For a lim. That's M O I N K box.com redacted that's moinkbox.com redacted and they're just a fantastic company. They're born, raised and harvested right here in the good old United States of America. So support, support American farmers earn rewards.

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All right, let's talk about Poland now. From America to Poland is Poland desperate and confused right now, Dare I say schizophrenic. On the one hand, they've prostituted themselves out of NATO. Massive NATO bases in Poland, of course. Then on the other hand, they're sitting on the precipice of total destruction if NATO pushes Russia any further. And what into What a nuclear war? Poland will be wiped off the map. So there's like sort of a madness pervading the government of Poland right now. I found it very curious to position a Poland. Poland's Prime Minister, Donald Tusk, he's doubling down on basically pushing for all out war against Russia. He basically condemned on X the other day Trump's push for peace with Putin. Can you imagine condemning peace just because you want Ukraine to be wiped off the map?

[Natalie Morris]

I don't have to imagine there's a whole contingency on X that is condemning peace talks. We are here. It exists. It's a crazy thing to observe.

[Clayton Morris]

One of the smartest men in Poland is a man by the name of Dr. Michael Krupa. And he's joining us right now and he's bringing his brain and his insight to us from Warsaw, Poland. What time is it there right now, Dr. Krupa in Warsaw?

[Ralph Schoellhammer]

It's currently 10:20pm out here in Eastern Europe.

[Clayton Morris]

All right, so there's a madness that's floated through Poland. It seems like over the past few years. You've been watching it very closely. You described it to me as desperation and confusion all wrapped in one. So. So what is happening in Poland right now and where do you think Donald Tusk comes down on all of this? Pushing more weapons and support to Ukraine, or will he go on the peace direction?

[Ralph Schoellhammer]

Well, I think Donald Tusk will go anywhere Brussels tells him to. And right now the Brussels contingent, which is led by Ursula von der Leyen, is obviously on the side of war and more conflict and more bloodshed. Let's not forget that European Union and Donald Tusk, along with the European Union, they basically sold their soul out to Joe Biden. And I'm pretty sure they were all excited that, you know, Kamala Harris might win the last elections in the United States, the presidential elections. And here we are, Donald Trump is president, and all of a sudden things are really changing. So it is a big difference from what was declared in the first Trump administration where, you know, we had the big words about getting along with Russia. But then, you know, you had the neocons in and around Trump in the personnel that were screwing, unfortunately, much of what he tried to do, institute a new Dayton with Moscow. But this time around, because of the loyal people that Trump has run in, we're actually seeing results and they're coming at a pretty fast pace. I have to say, I'm even surprised at how quickly the president has moved with his pro peace agenda. The smackdown last Friday in the Oval office was just, I think, one of the opening salvos of that. But going back to your question, Clayton, I think Tusk is going to get along. He's going to go along to get along. Now, the problem with the Polish political scene at this moment is not only were they not not expecting Trump to move so quickly in the direction of a new modus vendi with Moscow, but it seems that the official opposition, through the lips of its official presidential candidate today, one Carl Novrotsky. So the opposition party being Law and Justice, has stated that, you know, Donald Tusk is stupid on Russia, but we should be even more stupider because he said what we should do is we should severe diplomatic relations with Poland. So, unfortunately, the craziness in Poland has gone sky high. But at the end of the day, they're going to have to succumb to one source of power, you know, whether it comes from the United States or Europe, because we know that Europe, even as they say, without the American backstop, can do nothing vis a vis Russia.

[Natalie Morris]

I've been wondering if there was ever any way for them to save face and follow Donald Trump into a peace agreement because they parroted the lines of the White House, the lies about the war in Ukraine, so faithfully and so was there. Are they just in too deep? They're through the looking glass and they can't come back. And do you think that that's what the European people want? Because we're seeing madness out of Europe, but we should not fool ourselves that the people of Europe have this strong appetite to fight Russia?

[Clayton Morris]

Yeah. Do the Polish people think that way?

[Ralph Schoellhammer]

No, of course not. No way in hell. And I think this goes hand in hand with the opinion of the vast majority of the public opinion and all the other 20 European Union countries and also the countries in Europe that are not part of the eu. The thing is, I believe that the current establishment, so the basically the two parts of the sort of Solidarity revolution that came to power after 1989. So you have the liberals and you have the fake conservatives from Law and Justice. They have a real dilemma right now because the entire existence of the Third Polish Republic and their entire political careers were based on the premise that we will always be anti Russian and anything that comes from the United States regarding Poland, regarding NATO, will always be directed against Russia. Well, surprise, surprise, it turns out that's not the case in this instance. And they're having a little bit of a dilemma because they've invested so much moral capital, so much physical capital, so much propaganda, so much of their own personal honor in claiming that first, Vladimir Putin is a dictator who's hell bent on invading the rest of Europe once he takes care of Ukraine, that Vladimir Putin. Sorry, that Volodymyr Zelensky is Winston Churchill and that Ukraine is, you know, an idyllic place of democracy and the rule of law. You know, it's funny because before we went on, I heard the, the commercial about the, the American pig meat that's being sold, not from China. And there was a statement that you made there, Clayton, that, that it's basically where a pig can feel free to be a pig. Well, when I think of that, I think of Ukraine automatically. And when I saw Zelensky at the White House, it's something that came to mind. Because if you think of the corruption that that country, that literally third world country is swimming in, for anybody to say that that is any viable alternative to what we have in Russia, with all its problems, obviously, is just total lunacy.

[Clayton Morris]

Let's talk about Donald Tusk, because as you mentioned, he kind of goes where the wind blows him, right. And if you look at his previous prime ministership, what was he prime Minister for, like 2007-2014, forgive my Polish history, right. Then he took a little break. He had a siesta and now he's back. But back then he was talking about aligning himself with Russia. Maybe not aligning, but being friendlier. I'm just going to read, I want to read an old quote from him. I think this is from 2007, from Donald Tusk says, quote. Although we have our own views on the situation in Russia, we want dialogue with Russia as it is, the lack of dialogue serves neither Poland nor Russia. It spoils the interests and reputation of both countries on the international arena. Therefore, I'm convinced that time for a positive change on the issue has just arrived. So what, what changed? It seems like he was, he was ready to have a dialogue with Russia.

[Natalie Morris]

Well, this year, probably 2007.

[Clayton Morris]

Yeah.

[Natalie Morris]

Right. When warmongers, John McCain decided that that was unacceptable. So that, that, that was a pivotal year. If it is 2007. But you answer, go ahead.

[Ralph Schoellhammer]

No, he was. Truer words had never been spoken. I mean, if I were to put that quote to any, you know, voter of the current regime, they would say, oh, that must be some, you know, that must be Gregory Brown, for example, or some Russian agents like, no, it's your own prime minister from 2007. It's like, what? So surprise, surprise. But no, I think what we have to understand time we were getting signals from the Obama administration that they were willing to, you know, implement the so called reset, which was obviously no reset at all. It was just a ploy to get Medvedev involved in sort of sidelining Putin and Russian politics. That didn't work, obviously. So Tusk at that time understood that since the Americans are opening up to Russia, we should go along since we're, you know, America's greatest ally in Eastern Europe. But right now, I'm actually, I'm actually pretty surprised because the political diagnosis that I was putting out for a couple of weeks and even just after Trump's election was that this current government would want to keep the gravy train rolling in terms of NATO, in terms of more American troops in Poland, that they wouldn't dare stand up to Trump. But it turns out that the hatred that Tusk has for everything that President Trump represents in terms of this rebirth of American nationalism, in terms of putting your country first, in terms of sealing your border, in terms of saying, no, there is an American culture, we're all not globalist today. That's something that's anathema to Donald. And I think that hatred, coupled with what's happening in the European Union, with the clowns that are currently governing in, in, in Brussels and their hatred for everything that Donald Trump represents, I think convinced them that he's going to play his cards with the European Union, he's going to stick with Berlin and Brussels. But I fear that at the end of the day, when reality sinks in and those people, or the people just after them, like for example, the alternative for Deutschland, Germany, Germany begins serious talks with the Russians. We're going to be at the back of the line and the Russians are going to forget about what we did for this situation to come, about what we, as polls did.

[Clayton Morris]

What happens if the US Leaves NATO? Seems like it's growing increasingly likely that Donald Trump will pull the United States out of NATO, pull out funding completely out of Ukraine. What happens to Poland if that happens?

[Ralph Schoellhammer]

Well, the surprising answer is nothing happens. Putin's not going to invade. I think we should be happy that foreign forces are going to be leaving Polish soil. No sovereignty is no patriot, wants foreign forces, even friendly forces, as American forces on our territory. I think the collapse of NATO, well, which will, you know, obviously happen once the United States leaves the alliance, means that the most important cause of this war has basically been eliminated. So I think there's obviously going to be a lot of. I heard today that some former members of the Solidarity movement, I think along with, like Valencia, they sent an open letter to Trump, you know, accusing him of, you know, kowtowing to Putin and that reminds him of the old communist days and so on and appeasement, blah, blah, blah. We know the whole repertoire. Obviously, I don't think that letter is going to reach the White House. And good that it's not going to reach the White House, but it's these old boomer clowns that think they're still relevant in Polish politics. But nothing will happen. I think it'll be. It'll give Europe breathing space to do what President Macron, out of all people, has been talking about for many, many years now, about regaining European independence in the sense of nation states creating an entity that's powerful but still retaining their independence, but not being subject to the whims of Washington and American hegemony. So that can only bring good fruits to the old continent. And I'm hoping that in a couple of months we will see the United, if not quicker, because I'm seeing the vibes on Twitter right now on X. Sorry. That there is a serious push for the United States to leave NATO.

[Natalie Morris]

Right. Well, that's an interesting way to think about the trajectory of the European Union, because I on X, I also see a lot of hyperbole saying, oh, my gosh, if we leave NATO, the United States, that's the collapse of the European, European Union. And the European Union, you know, that the current leaders don't have the people of Europe and their best interest at heart. But perhaps there is a movement that could, in fact, bring the EU into a more positive body. So I, I appreciate that. Take. Mike Krupa, thank you so much for joining us, for staying up late from Poland. We really appreciate your analysis. Always.

[Clayton Morris]

Smartest. One of the smartest men in Poland. One of the smartest men in Poland. Thank you, Dr. Mike.

[Ralph Schoellhammer]

Thank you.

[Clayton Morris]

I hope everyone pays attention to you in Poland. Be a safer, safer world. Thank you. Thank you, Doc, great to see you as always. We should put up a poll. Let's put up a poll. How many people watching right now? We got, what, 40,000 of you watching across all of our platforms right now? I think we can do a poll on YouTube. Should the United States leave NATO? Let's just make that a simple question, David. If we can. On YouTube. I know. Can we do polls yet on Rumble? I know, and I always ask that, but maybe we can put one up on. On X as well. But anyway, we' put that up here in the chat and just. You guys can answer it here. We'll put the Poll up here. But should the United States leave NATO? You know, Douglas, Colonel Douglas McGregor has.

[Natalie Morris]

Been saying not to lead the survey.

[Clayton Morris]

But yes, that it's not a defensive organization at all. In its founding, of course, it was meant to be a defensive organization. It really has never lived up to that in, in its many, many years of history.

[Natalie Morris]

No. They killed civilians on their first bombing mission.

[Clayton Morris]

So Operation Gladio, anybody? All right, we've got more news to get to here on your Monday. There is the poll.

[E.J. Antony]

Poll.

[Clayton Morris]

It's up now on the channel. Should the United States leave NATO? You can weigh in on our poll. We'll check it here at the end of the show. Overwhelmingly, people are just saying yes. Yes. Type it in the poll here. 97 of you say yes so far.

[Natalie Morris]

And you can vote on behalf of the United States even if you're not in the United States.

[Clayton Morris]

Yeah. I mean, if you're, if you're in Europe, feel free to vote as well.

[Natalie Morris]

Yeah. Like let us pretend you're voting on behalf of your country. What the appetite is for that. All right. We're going to talk about censorship in the European Union because it is shocking and bound to increase. Before we do that though, we want to tell you about our friends over at American Financing. Because the average person is feeling the financial strain more than ever. With expenses up, wages not keeping up, joblessness still high, many people are finding it nearly impossible to make ends meet. But if you are putting your expenses on a high interest credit card, there may be a way to stop digging yourself into this hole. If you're a homeowner and you are stuck in a cycle of mounting debt, you can call our friends at American Financing and a salary based mortgage consultant will tell you how to leverage the equity in your home in order to stop digging yourself into debt, but instead building your wealth. Because that equity, let's face it, is not doing you any good at all. It's your money. You've put it in there. You should think about how to use that smarter. And this is something that wealthy people do all the time as they leverage their assets in order to build. They don't dig deeper into the red, if you call them. They can save homeowners an average of 800amonth. Plus if you act now, you might be able to skip the next mortgage payment or 2. So you really give yourself some breathing room. There are no upfront fees. It's just something that you are going to commit to learning to see if it works for you. It can save you a lot of stress and break the cycle. So call them. Take control of your future. Call 866-890-8434 or go to American Financing.net one more time. That's 866-890-8438 or go to American Financing.

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We talk about Europe here in a second. I think we're just waiting on our guest here. But so we just got a new poll that just came out. So if you're wondering, like, where do Americans sit right now on this new poll that's just out on, like on President Trump's handling of the situation with Ukraine? Well, if you listen to the media, if you listen to cnn, you listen to like Face the Nation or any of these yahoos over the past few days talking on, you know, talking heads. Oh, my God. Trump has just, he's, you know, we love Ukraine so much. We're so upset. We're so upset about this. What is Trump doing? Well, looking at the new data just out today is that overwhelmingly American taxpayers totally support the president's position on this, 62% said that they found Zelensky's comment incredibly offensive. 69% of those polled believe the United States has the most negotiating leverage to end this conflict, according to this new poll. And, and back it's funny because back in 2022, CNN had a poll that found that 72% of Americans believe that Zelinsky would do the right thing when it came to World Fair. So in two years, my, how have that ship has sailed.

[Natalie Morris]

Yeah, it absolutely has. And so when you look at sources of the temperate of, I guess, liberals on X or anyone who's a warmonger who says, oh, no, we're really worried that Putin can't have his way. That seems like a very personal vendetta. He can't learn that he can do this. It's almost like letting your toddler get away with something. Well, we got to spank him. He can't get away with that. Right. We can't teach him that. So that, that seems to be so irrational. And then when you look at the temperature of what these warmongers are, are continuing to try to promote is just peace through strength. And I, it was so interesting over the weekend, Ursula von der Leyen summarized her meeting in London saying, well, we do want peace but she threaded the tweet, which you don't have to do anymore. You can just type it all out. Right, Right. She did it on purpose so that the second part said, we really need to beef up our war. War capabilities. And so they're trying to hoodwink you, that war means peace right now. And so how many people are falling for that now? People who are saying, oh, no, I stand for Zelensky, I stand with Ukraine, maybe don't know that over 50% of Ukrainians want an end to this war. They're not really worried about Putin's ego. They're not that worried about getting eastern Ukraine back because those people voted diplomatically. I'm sorry, democratically. And so if you stand with Ukraine, you're really only standing with Zelensky because you, like, you've been sold what he stands for. For. You're not actually standing for the attitude or the temperate or the appetite for war of the Ukrainian people.

[Clayton Morris]

Let's check our poll here. We're waiting on our next guest here. Oh, here we go. Yeah, check the poll here. 95% of you right now say that the United states should leave NATO. 95% of you say that. Yes. Oh, and I want to bring up this great point here from our. One of our viewers here in the chat room JR Williams says is redacted. Is there any veracity to the reports that Senator Chris Murphy met with Zelensky and admonished him to reject the minerals deal that's been reported by the Daily Mail today that, yes, Chris Murphy, Democrat, met with Zelensky, but also there are reports that Victoria Nuland and Susan Rice met with Zelensky before meeting with President Trump. And we could even go back a few weeks earlier than that, which we're gonna talk about with our next guest here in a second second, which is this European deal that appears to have been signed well in advance of President Trump even being inaugurated. So was all of this Susan Rice had the balls to go on television this weekend and say this looked like a total setup, that this was all planned, that Trump and Vance were going to scuttle this whole thing from the very beginning. No, no, no, no, no. The setup came from you, Susan Rice, and Victoria Nuland, who told him not to take this deal. Deal ahead of time and to push for security concessions from President Trump ahead of time not to take this deal. You even saw that in Lindsey Graham's performance when he came out of the White House and he couldn't believe what he was seeing.

[Natalie Morris]

So how stupid is Zelensky to meet with the person who orchestrated the war in your country before meeting with the person who has all the power.

[Clayton Morris]

Victoria Nuland.

[Natalie Morris]

Yes.

[Clayton Morris]

Yeah.

[Natalie Morris]

And then doing what she wants. How stupid can you be?

[Clayton Morris]

Pretty stupid. Well, but I mean, he wouldn't be in the position he's in were it not for her. She orchestrated the coup that essentially put him into power. Right, and great point. And great point. Because this weekend he admitted in an interview, he said in an interview this weekend that his mission is to get Ukraine into NATO. It's not about winning. He can kill a million Ukrainians. He doesn't care. He doesn't care about the young men. Men. He cares about the, the mission. And he says, I will consider a mission accomplished if Ukraine joins NATO. That's all you need to know.

[Natalie Morris]

Which was always his marching order for as an actor. Yeah. Okay. Well, warmongers will have to work extra hard to stamp out dissent in Europe now that European leaders are all in on supporting Ukraine for a full blown war with Russia. A few weeks ago, Vice President J.D. vance criticized Europe for, for suppressing free speech. Well, Germany and the UK have doubled down on doing just that. In Germany, the government has launched an advice center for those who think that a family member or a friend has spread conspiracy theories. This is how you, you know what? You've got a crazy uncle who believes that Ukraine started the war. Tell the government we're going to help you out. The Stasi is on it. And in the UK the Prime Minister signed a 100 year agreement to support Ukraine. And guess, guess what? A big part of that agreement is to combat misinformation and propaganda and implement, look at number four, joint media initiatives to make sure that the media is promoting the war to their liking. So what does this tell you? Expect more propaganda, expect less dissent or at least more punished dissent. Joining us to discuss from Austria is Ralph Schoellhammer. He's the host of the Hammer time show on YouTube. He is going to speak the truth from Europe while it is still allowed.

[Clayton Morris]

And one of the smartest people in Austria. The smartest person in Austria. Ralph, good to see you.

[E.J. Antony]

Some people say that's not a very hard bar to meet, but I'll take a compliment.

[Natalie Morris]

All right, so you're still allowed right now to speak the truth, but what happens if you get reported? Maybe you shouldn't cross the border to Germany. Tell us about this initiative.

[E.J. Antony]

This is scary stuff because it always comes under the cloak of, oh, we are trying to help people. As you said this before, usually in the United States, every Thanksgiving, you have these articles about how to speak to your racist uncle at the dinner table at nine. Germany, they more or less have how to report your insane uncle to the authorities when they spread conspiracy theories. And the fun part or the sad part part is this is initiated by the Interior Minister, but it is run by three NGOs. And those three NGOs are very well known for being very, very far to the left. What I find so remarkable also the things that you said previously, all of this is out in the open. That's what I always want to remember five, six years ago when you would have had the conversation that we are having right now, they would have said, oh, you guys are spreading conspiracy theories. But now all of this is out in the open. They have lost any shame. And that's the worst on part. Also with the war in Ukraine. Can you imagine if you give European leaders warlike emergency powers, they won't be able to save the European economy or actually make a war industry, but they sure as hell can crack down on free speech and expression and dissemination of information and opinion. That's a really worrisome trend.

[Clayton Morris]

So Natalie asked the question earlier, should we expect more propaganda? I mean, is that what we're setting ourselves up for? They say that they're trying to save us, you know, preventing misinformation and disinformation to protect you. But it seems like we're about to see a lot more bs, a lot more paid for state media propaganda.

[E.J. Antony]

Well, I'm a little bit hopeful because what you saw happening with the election of Donald Trump is that the big social media companies, at least for now, have shifted gears and sided with Trump on the pushback against European censorship regimes, against the idea of the Digital Services act, which is just a technical term term for censorship through the back door. And as long as that is going on, since Europeans don't really have alternatives in the social media realm, there are some, you know, it's a small French company, there's a small Polish company. Somebody recently published a list and said, if you want to be truly independent of the United States, switch to those companies, switch to those apps. I've never heard about these apps. I don't think anybody has outside of whoever sent, sent this tweet. So I'm quite hopeful that the Europeans will not be able to do it. But even the initiative, the trend is the problematic thing because the United States going to have elections again in three years. And if you get somebody like Kamala Harris or Joe Biden 2.0, then this trend can accelerate once again. So this is a worrisome trend. And the European people, I have to admit, are a little bit too sanguine about this. Even the so called deep state stuff. Again, five years ago, using the term deep state made you a conspiracy theorist. And now pretty much everybody explains, accepts that it exists.

[Natalie Morris]

Yeah. Now you mentioned these NGOs, I thought automatically when I read these initiatives, I thought, well, this is something that USAID or the US State Department would normally pay for, we have in copious amounts in the last decade or more. So who are the remaining NGOs that still have money without US support to do this?

[E.J. Antony]

Oh, this is, this is a great story. I mean, I have to admit, admit I might sometimes seem a little bit too enthusiastic about Donald Trump, but some of the things he did will have lasting effect. And one of them is what you just said, the uncovering of the government NGO complex, which is basically a slush fund that ran directly from the government to the NGOs and was an outsourcing of things that usually were considered to be within the realm of the government of the state. And they just put it somewhere else because then they could say, we have no responsibility. This is not really something that we have under control. The same is true in Germany. They made a law just a couple of years ago which they called the Democracy Support law. And the only purpose of this law was to secure the financing of left wing NGOs outside of parliament. So because they said, well, these NGOs, they cannot really plan for the future because their funding is insecure. So how about that we put it into law and say that for 5, 6, 10 years they will be funded by the government. And even if somebody else is in power, power, of course here the fear was that this would be the AfD, they cannot cut the funding. So there was a deliberate attempt by the government in Germany to create, let's say, a shadow government outside of the state that could then continue to do what it did. You know, whether it's in the realm of the information, of the propaganda, you name it, and could not be definanced if you want from the government. So this was kind of very, very odd stuff that was going on. And I think this is of course what we see all over the place in Ukraine, Europe is what is being attempted in many places is to ensure that elections no longer have consequences, that you create that NGO complex that then can operate, it's taxpayer funded. You operate it in a way that even if Le Pen In France, the AfD in Germany reform in the UK even if they would come into government, they still would have to wrestle with that NGO complex that they can do nothing against, because the previous government created a legal system them that makes them almost unassailable.

[Clayton Morris]

So I want to ask you, because it's amazing, right now it seems like the will of the people in Europe, if you listen to all of these warmongers and these leaders in Europe, that they're all like, pro going to nuclear war with Russia. You ask the average Portuguese on the street, is that the case? Because it seems like the voice of the European people has been completely drowned out in this situation by Brussels, by these unelected European globalists. Right now, they're not listening to the people. Do the people of Europe want to go to war with Russia?

[E.J. Antony]

No. No, I don't think so. And there are some exceptions. But the further you go from Spain towards the east, and I always say that Poland somewhat plays a more exceptional role there because also with historical relations that they have with Russia, they tend to be more belligerent in that sense. Sense. But in Germany, we constantly hear that the AfD is pro Russian, which is, of course, a ridiculous argument. Not wanting to go to war is not the same as being pro Russian. I think it's a very sensible position. But even within the Social Democrats, even within the Conservative Party, if you ask the people, nobody really is in favor of military action. But this is the sad thing, which is that these ideas can take on a life of their own. So as you correctly pointed out, if van der Leyen goes out there and says, says nothing is off the table, or Justin Trudeau, when he says nothing is off the table, people shrug it off. But those are very dangerous things to say. And in a sense, and this is something you also alluded to, it almost seems as if there's a willingness to escalate this to a point where there is no return. And if you look at what happened over the last couple of days, what Trump was suggesting was actually quite clever with this whole mineral steel thing. He was saying, okay, we get American businesses into Ukraine, Ukraine, we create a tripwire through the back door for the Russians, it's not a real security guarantee, but it's kind of an implicit security guarantee. Because if you look at the actual commercial value of rare earth in Ukraine, they are very limited. The United States don't need Ukraine for the rare earth. But the idea was to say, we're not going to get you into NATO. We're not going to send troops, we're going to signal to the Russians in the sense that, listen, Donbass, Crimea, there's probably not much we can do about this, but then there are limits. So this was a very shrewd thing to do. But as you guys correctly pointed out, for whatever reason, Zelenskyy didn't take it because as so often he talked to the very people we mentioned often on the show, the Victoria Nulands, the Susan Rice's or another personal favorite of mine, John Bolton. There never was a war that these people didn't like. And apparently it seems now that this.

[Natalie Morris]

Is the next one right now. One of the things in speaking to Europeans they say is yes, we absolutely value free speech, but it's not a foundational part of our existence the way it is for Americans. Article 11 of the European Charter guarantees freedom of expression and pluralism of the media, meaning you expect pluralistic viewpoints. It's supposed to be allowed. So why are Europeans so sanguine about this?

[E.J. Antony]

Well, because a lot of it has been done in a somewhat shrewd way. So yeah, there's freedom of the media, so you can say what you want, but the way in which they influence the, the playing field of freedom of speech and freedom of opinion is that you have the public broadcasters, like the BBC, the German public broadcasters, the Austrian public broadcasters, and they have a very specific left wing bias, but they are taxpayer funded. Now then you have a public media or public private media that is funded by the government that I would say that's part of the NGO complex and there it's the same thing, if redacted, would go to the German government or the Austrian government and say, hey, we have a really successful podcast, we have a really great YouTube show. Is there some funding, is there some public support for that? You would not get a dime. If you would, however, be a left wing pro Brussels media outlet, you would get a significant amount of money either from Vienna, from Berlin, from Brussels or somewhere else. So the idea is everybody can say what they want, but if you say what we want you to say, there is money in it. And then thereby, of course, you tilt the playing field, you tilt the, the competition if you want, in a very specific direction. And this is exactly what's happening. So you are, you're free to say what you want on paper, but it's very hard to execute in practice.

[Clayton Morris]

We're proud to announce here at Redacted our brand new show called the Ursula von der Leyen Hour. It's just a, it's a, it's a, it's a Full show and an Olaf Schultz hour follows at 7pm that's our new lineup here, where it's just a back to back where you get Ursula von der Leyen, she has the floor, and then Olaf Schultz after that.

[Ralph Schoellhammer]

And we'll have it translated into French.

[Clayton Morris]

For our Canadian viewers. Yeah, I mean, we're very open to all of them. Exactly.

[Natalie Morris]

What happened to your camera?

[E.J. Antony]

I don't know.

[Natalie Morris]

When Clayton said that his camera was.

[Clayton Morris]

Like, nope, yeah, my camera went off my shut off.

[Natalie Morris]

That was so funny.

[Clayton Morris]

Olaf Schultz, stop messing with my camera.

[E.J. Antony]

But that happened during the German election campaign. If you. And we talked about this on show before. If you look, this was always my favorite example when they had these town halls with German politicians. And then it turned out that all these average Germans in the town hall that were interrogating the AfD politicians were, for example, members of the Green Party. And first of all, these mistakes always only happen in one direction. And the other thing is, if it happens once, okay, fine. If it happens twice or three times, as it was the case in Germany, you know that it's not a coincidence. Incidents. So this is trying again to tilt the playing field and to influence, of course, the outcome of an election. And ultimately they were successful because 20% for the AfD was not enough to have the kind of course correction that Germany would have needed.

[Natalie Morris]

Yeah.

[Clayton Morris]

Ralph Schulhammer, the smartest man in Austria. Thank you so much. It's almost 11pm there in Austria, so thank you so much, Ralph, as always, for your insights into the madness that is the censorship industrial complex in Europe. Thank you, Ralph. Great to see you, my friend.

[E.J. Antony]

Thank you. I'll see you next week, hopefully.

[Natalie Morris]

See ya. Yep.

[Clayton Morris]

Yeah. Right after the Ursula von der Leyen hour.

[Natalie Morris]

There will be things to talk about. Yeah.

[Clayton Morris]

All right. All right. We've got a lot more news to get to here on your Monday. We're going to talk about tariffs. You know, the left was crying foul about all these Trump tariffs. Well, guess what? We have a laundry list of companies that now say the Trump tariffs are working and they're building factories in the United States. So are the Trump tariffs working? Working? What is actually happening here? We're going to digest this with an economist here in just a second. We got a bit of breaking news actually on that front we're going to tell you about. But first we have to talk about our friends over at Lear Capital. And we have to talk about precious metals. We have to talk about investing in gold and silver. Of course, the big Fort Knox audit is about to happen. And as you know, gold experts are pointing out, a couple of things could happen. We go to Fort Knox and we find out, guess what, there's a lot less gold than we thought there was. Well, we could actually see a huge spike in prices of gold. Could, if there is gold there, great. It restores confidence in the American economy. And what does that mean? If Trump decides to use that gold and alter the price, could he actually, you know, it's right now, I think it's valued at $42 an ounce of gold right now in the money, the gold that's in Fort Knox, which is unbelievable. So it's not even at the market rate. Gold right now trading near all time highs, getting close to $3,000 an ounce. And there is word that what if Trump reclassifies Those prices at $5,000 an ounce, what would that mean for gold in general? So all that to say now is a very important time to be very smart about investing in precious minerals. Natalie and I are big fans of investing in gold and silver. And when we make a purchase, we usually do like 50, although the last purchase we did we bought like 60 or 70% silver, 30, 40% gold because it's just so cheap right now, relatively speaking. The price of silver right now is just so cheap. It's a currency and it's also a commodity used in electronics and everything. Obviously, the race for AI. So we want to tell you about our friends over at Lear Capital. They can get you set up right now. Just give them a call and learn how to invest. They'll actually have their Fort Knox gold report right now. Talk to them about what this would mean mean call them 1-800-613-3557 for your free guide or just go to the website learedacted.com and you can also receive up to $15,000 in free bonus medals with a qualified purchase. Again, just talk to them on the phone. They're an American company and you can have gold coins and silver coins sent right to your house. You can store it in your gun safe or you can have it secured and stored in an off site facility under lock and key and guard. That's totally up to you as well. However you want to do it, whatever you, whatever you like to do, you can do it. Just go to, just give them a call 1-800-613-3557 for your free guide or go to learredacted.com earn rewards.

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So how's our poll looking? We put a poll up here a little bit earlier and we asked should America should the United States leave NATO? So right now the poll sits at 94%. 6% of you said, no, we shouldn't leave NATO. I'm curious of the 6% who said we shouldn't leave NATO. Like, let me know in the comments, like, why do you think we shouldn't leave NATO? Like, what is your justification for that? And I'm not being mean about it. I'm just really curious, like, why you think think we should stay there and what benefit does it provide for you as an American to stay in NATO? Let me know. All right, let's talk about this. Tariffs. So under the threat of Trump's tariffs, first it was Apple, set to build multiple new factories in the United States, hiring 20,000Americans, spending $500 billion investing in the United States. And then the list started growing from there. ELI Lilly Pharmaceutical Co. Plans a $27 billion plan to build four new manufacturing sites in the United States. Volkswagen, German carmaker set to establish US Production sites for its Audi and Porsche brands in the U.S. stellantis, the automaker LG Electronics going to be moving its production from Mexico to its Tennessee facility. Samsung, Hyundai. And now today it was Honda. We learned this because of Trump's tariff plan plan. Honda is now about to produce their next round of Civic cars in Indiana, not in Mexico, as they had originally planned due to UF US tariffs specifically because of US tariffs. E.J. antony is a research fellow at the Heritage Foundation's Grover M. Herman center for the Federal Budget and an expert and an economist. And we wanted to ask him his thoughts on all of this. E.J. welcome back to the show. Good to see you. So one of the big criticisms of all of this is that it was going to, you know, drive up costs for the American consumers. We're going to start paying a lot more here at home under Trump's tariffs. If you listen to left wing podcasts, you can hear them complaining about it. They won't be able to get their cheap televisions from China or whatever it is. But it was going to be a big problem for American consumers. So are they right? Are they wrong?

[Dr. Michael Krupa]

Well, if it's going to be a problem for American consumers, I would love to see the evidence for that. Right. Whether we're talking about in the past or Today. That's not to say there's not a wrong way to do tariffs. Sure there is. There's a right way to do it, there's a wrong way to do it. What we saw during the first Trump administration was the right way to do it. And I think we're seeing that all over again, just like we saw during William McKinley's presidency, probably most famously. Conversely, tariffs were done incredibly poorly during the Herbert Hoover administration. So again, they can be done right, they can be done wrong. It's not a panacea, it's not a cure all. But what it is, is part of the carrot and stick approach that this administration is employing. So tariffs obviously are the stick. What's the carrot? Well, that would be tax cuts, regulatory cuts, getting rid of all the burdensome red tape for companies so that they can once again make things here and do it profitably and employ American profitably at living wages. In other words, return us to when we had good blue collar manufacturing jobs on which a man could support a family of four. That is not something that is just lost to the past and can never return. But again, we need to not only protect our industries from unfair competition abroad that is subsidized by these foreign governments, but we also need to get rid of all of the ropes roadblocks that our own government has put in the way. Again, that would include very burdensome and very high taxes and also overregulation. We forget that although a typical manufacturing worker, let's say, makes 50 or 60 thousand dollars a year, the employer pays another 50 or 60 thousand dollars very commonly per year in regulatory costs. So if you can get that down, you now can. The employer, that is, can afford to pay that worker, worker much, much higher wages and still make a profit.

[Clayton Morris]

So we knew about manufacturing job openings during the Biden administration. A lot of manufacturing job. And you can correct me if I'm wrong, but the data that I was looking at about two years ago was that we had a lot of manufacturing jobs that were open in the United States and just Americans just weren't taking them. So now Apple's going to add 20,000, Honda's going to add tens of thousands to start building Civics here. You got Volkswagen, you've got lg, you got Samsung. Sounds like a lot of manufacturing jobs in the United States. If we had like a lot of openings before, it seems like we're gonna have a lot of manufacturing jobs open now. Who's gonna take those jobs? Will Americans take those jobs?

[Dr. Michael Krupa]

Well, we hear this question a lot right why do we have job openings? And there's the question of, you know, will Americans take these jobs? Well, for what wages? Right? Under what conditions? It's not as if it's this, this binary, this black and white of either the job is filled or it's not. Either an American will take it or they won't. Right. There's a lot of variables to consider there. And we also have to remember that the manufacturing sector has been hemorrhaging since the beginning of 2023. We now actually have lost more than 100,000 manufacturing jobs during that time. So again, this idea that somehow, somehow the sector has been booming and that we have all of these openings, it's just really not true, unfortunately. And the other thing to remember again with those openings is not only do you have to remember the kinds of wages that are being offered, but another thing to consider is the fact that the survey we get that data from has only about a 30% response rate. In other words, there's a lot of bias that can be built into that data. And so the results aren't always reliable. That's why we always want, want to take those figures and then compare them with corresponding private sector data and not just rely on the government figures. And what we see when we look at that private sector data, again, is a sector that has been in recession, not one that's growing and has millions of openings.

[Clayton Morris]

So let's look at what's going on in Wall street right now. And again, I don't know that it's necessarily a bellwether of Main street in the United States, but right now the SEC S&P 500 has just post its biggest loss since December this afternoon. And Trump is saying that, you know, tariffs will proceed in video Nvidia shares falling 9% on tariff fears. So what do you make of Wall Street's reaction to tariffs?

[Dr. Michael Krupa]

Well, unfortunately, a lot of people are still trying to feel out what's going to happen here. And what I mean by that is we have been inundated for literally decades with this thinking that all tariffs are bad and that free trade always and everywhere is good, whether it's fair trade or not. In other words, it doesn't matter what they're doing overseas here at home. We should always just refuse to put any kinds of tariffs or non tariff barriers on the stuff that we're buying from foreigners. Whether or not they are putting tariffs and non tariff barriers. That would be things like quota on the things that we're trying to sell overseas. And again, that's kind of just been this economic dogma that has been drilled into everyone's heads for decades. That means you have essentially an entire generation right now of money managers, brokers and other people on Wall street who have known only that way of thinking. And so in their minds this is going to be absolutely catastrophic. But again, as we started this conversation, the record of history is going quite clear that tariffs have been done successfully, they have been done unsuccessfully. It has been very fruitful in some times and has been very costly in others. And it seems that the way President Trump is implementing them right now is the right way and not the wrong way. So I think increasingly what's going to happen is people will need to see that in the long run these companies earnings are going to hold up just fine. And those earnings are the only thing really that justify ultimately, ultimately stock prices.

[Clayton Morris]

Yeah, because we just got word of President Trump saying, yeah, these are going to move forward. The 25% on Mexico, the 25% on Canada. So it seems like any sort of last minute deals, we know Justin Trudeau hasn't done anything really to stop the flow of fentanyl into the United States. So that was a non starter. You really haven't done anything to do it. That was part of the deal. Again, 25%. 25%. I'll get you out of here on this, EJ. How do you think those 25% on Mexico and Canada are going to play out? Out?

[Dr. Michael Krupa]

I think quite well. And part of the reason is because Trump is also looking at reciprocity here. So we forget, you know, Trump is not a one trick pony at all. He is always attacking from multiple angles, even if he's using the exact same tool to do so. And so why are we looking at about a 25% tariff rate? Because if we look at for in Canada, for example, their tariff and non tariff barriers that they put on American products. And I don't care if we're talking about dairy products or if we're talking about automotive parts, whatever the case may be anything we're trying to sell in Canada, the combination of those tariff and non tariff barriers is roughly equal to a 25% tariff tax rate. So that means that what Trump is doing, at the same time he's punishing Trudeau for not helping to stop the fentanyl crisis in this country, for not preventing China from abusing the USMC and exploiting loopholes to dump more products here. At the same time he's going after Trudeau for all that, he is also introducing reciprocity. This is part of the genius of Trump's negotiating tactics. So I think ultimately what's going to happen is Trump is going to force Canada to not only help solve the different economic and health crises that they are allowing to enter into this country, but he is also going to force Canada to reduce again, again those tariff and non tariff barriers. If we're going to reduce our tariff rates on Canadian products coming here, Jeffrey.

[Clayton Morris]

Rinehart in our chat says, are you guys aware that Canada levies 300% on cheese and other dairy products? Is that true? That high?

[Dr. Michael Krupa]

Right, right. So when I talk about that 25% tariff or tariff equivalent, that's just across, that's the average across, across all Canadian, excuse me, all American products going into Canada. So you do find specific instances where because of those tariff and again, non tariff barriers, which includes things like quotas, they end up with equivalent tax rates far in excess of 25%. And that's where you get into those types of incredibly high rates that you just mentioned.

[Clayton Morris]

Wow, 300% again. Yeah. I mean, I lived in Europe for a number of years. I can tell you, trying to go in the grocery stores there. You're not gonna see like any American brands, I mean, detergent, shampoo, nothing like that. You're just not going to see it. They just don't import any of our stuff. So you get all these weird, wacky, like European brands over there all the time. So and stuff, by the way, that doesn't even clean countertops. It's pretty terrible. So anyway, fascinating times we are in right now. It'll be interesting to see how this all shakes out on Wall street with a Dow down the, you know, pretty, pretty big today and President Trump moving forward with these tariffs. Ej, great to see you. EJ Antonio is a research fellow at the Heritage foundation and an economist and always a wise voice to have here on the show. E.J. great to see you today. Thanks so much.

[Dr. Michael Krupa]

My pleasure. Thank you for having me.

[Clayton Morris]

Our pleasure. So let us know in the chat room. Where do you think these things are going to shake out, guys? I mean, it's, you know, again, on the fentanyl piece of this, you have, as we reported here a couple of weeks ago here on the show, I mean, the percentage of fentanyl that's even being examined coming in through the ports is less than 1%. So when you're saying that, oh, we're really tackling the fentanyl crisis. No, what you're tackling is a percentage of the 1% that you're even Looking at, as our friend David Crayton from Ottawa was reporting. So those shipping containers that are coming in from China right into the ports in Canada aren't even being looked at and examined. And so they haven't done anything on this to come into the United States. I'm glad they haven't backed down on this. This. So let's see. Grand Paul Buy says, who wants to import bad stuff? Funny. One second. Redacted. Talks about how bad US Stuff is. Next. You don't import their stuff. Redacted. Please stop doing this. I don't know what you're talking about, but all I'm saying is in the eu, good luck trying to find American products. You're just not going to find it. Like, just go to the grocery stores. You're going to find very little American brands. You just won't. So I don't know how much of European stuff we're importing here in the United States. I can tell you it's a lot more than they import from us, for sure. You know, in, in the European Union, specifically. I'm not talking about the uk it's different. So. All right, what do you guys think about this? How's our poll looking, David? Are you able to, are you able to take a look at that? Yeah, we're at 93% say we should leave NATO. And 7%. No, at 8,900. Almost 9,000 votes.

[Natalie Morris]

Votes.

[Clayton Morris]

Shoot. 9,000 votes. Yeah, yeah. I'd be quickly, I'd be, I'd be just curious, like, who, who's the 6 or 7% that want us to stay in NATO? It's weird because anytime we put up a poll, we have at least 3% that are the opposite of what we think people will be. It's always at least 3%. It's very rare to have it be 100%, I would think. But, yeah, I mean, I think there are people out there who, maybe they, like their family worked for NATO in some capacity or they have some sort of affinity because they think that NATO, NATO is, is a defensive organization when it's been a terrorist organization. Actually, you can read the, you can read the great book called the. The NATO's secret terrorist armies and how they literally Fomented regime change operations around the world. Operation Gladio. Anybody? You should look it up if you're, if you really think that NATO is a defensive organization. You should do some research on that. But go ahead, David. I was just going to say, I think some people just troll. They just troll the poll. Troll the poll. Troll the Poll. Yeah. Hey, we should mention we have a newsletter on this. Natalie had to step out here just a second ago because, and it's crazy, we have this weird on and off thing with the, the, the buses for our kids. It's like, ah, this week is like a blackout date for the, the buses for picking up our kids. So she had to run over the school and pick up our kids from school. So she just had to duck out a second ago here. So she apologizes, she sends her apology. But yeah, we have a daily newsletter and it's totally free and I'd love for you to subscribe to it. Just go to redacted.inc, put in your email address and you'll receive a welcome email from me, claytonedacted.inc you just need to click accept in the link and then that way tomorrow morning you'll receive the newsletter. 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Tomorrow, of course, President Trump is gonna address the joint session of Congress. What will Europe do? It seems like Europe is ready to put boots on the ground in Ukraine, the United Kingdom. And by the way, I just, I find it so fascinating. Can I just say this, this deal that Zelenskyy signed, three was signed on the 17th of January. Natalie and I were talking about it here before the show. It's a startling admission that they signed this deal before President Trump came into office. So when he showed up in Washington, D.C. did Zelensky the other day, was that like total. I mean, it was a total lie. They had already secured this deal. It was already signed on January 17th before President Trump took office. So Europe had already made this agreement with Zelensky for more mineral, more weapons. Weapons and more money to go up in a war against Russia and to really push them for NATO ascension as well to become a NATO country. I don't think that's going to sit very well with President Trump that he was totally lied to and used and pushed around like this. So what will Trump's move be? Completely cut off. Aid to Ukraine. Ukraine and say, f you to NATO. We're done. You guys screwed us over. You lied to us. We're out. That could be where we're heading. So we're going to see over the next 48 hours what that looks like. President Trump posted on social media this afternoon that he's going to bring fire tomorrow night and tell it like it is during this speech. We'll have to see. So thank you guys so much for joining us here on this Monday. Hope you guys have a wonderful afternoon, noon, evening, wherever you are, and we'll see you back here. We stream live every day at 4pM Eastern time. So thank you guys for subscribing. Just turn on that little bell notification once you subscribe. That should notify you that we are live and we'll see you back here at 4pM Eastern Time tomorrow. Have a great night, everyone.