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Clayton
The Trump administration announced a new task force to go after and find 450,000 children in the United States and check to see if they're even still alive. These were children that were trafficked across the US Border into the United States under the Biden administration. Our next guest has a new documentary out that just dropped today at noon. It's called Never in America. And what our next guest has uncovered is the world's largest government funded child kidnapping operation. All government funded here in the United States. And perhaps no one has been doing a better job of exposing this network of child traffickers in the United States government than our next guest, Ryan Mata, who is of course the documentary filmmaker behind this new explosive documentary called Never in America. And Ryan, we want to welcome you back to the show. Thanks so much for being here.
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Ryan Mata
Hey Clayton, thanks so much for having me, man. It's an honor to be here and I just appreciate you. You're always the first person. Anytime I put out a film on child trafficking, you're one of the first people to bring me on, first people to give me airtime. And I just appreciate them. And there's a lot of people that won't even let me come on to talk about these films. So thank you so much.
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Clayton
Oh, my pleasure. And I know the incredible work that you do, traveling the world into. Into Guatemala, all over the United States, exposing this. And it's funny, I actually spoke to somebody yesterday who said, you know, I just. I. There it was a different story, but he said, you know, I just. It's always so hard for me to, like, make that next leap to child trafficking. Like, I can always focus on these other things, but then making any. This was a government official. He's like. And then to make that mental leap to think that our government could be doing this, he's like, I've just never ventured into that. And he's like, I know how dark it is. So he knows it exists. He's just admitting, like, it's a bridge too far. Why do you think that is?
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Ryan Mata
You know, it's funny you said that, Clayton, because you kind of teed up, literally the title of my documentary, which is Never in America, because the amount of people who you tell these stories to and you talk about child trafficking, and when you start talking about the evil things that are done to these children, people go, well, that. That would never happen in America. Right. Our government would never allow that to happen here in America. And really, it's our government who's not only allowing it to happen, but it's our government who's facilitating it to happen. And that was one of my biggest, I guess, the biggest moments where I just really had this, like, aha. This epiphany of when I traveled for the last three years detailing and documenting the trafficking of the migrant children. Like you stated, 452,121 migrant children ages 0 to 17 arrived at our border without a parent from 2021 to 2024. Now, out of that 452,000, our government took physical possession of all of them. Because the second that a migrant child steps foot on our border on USA soil without a parent, they become property of the United States government. And because of this system that our government created, it was so decompartmentalized that. And there were so many different government organizations doing parts of this operation that I guess, individually, each person didn't really know that they were trafficking children. Right. The border patrol agent just received the Child as he came across the border, he just checked the child in, and the child had a phone number and a name stapled to his shirt. So he just put that information in the child's file. Then he called up the ngo, and the NGO came and picked up the child and transported the child from the Border Patrol location to an HHS intake facility. Then the HHS intake facility, they. The child's been changed. You know, the Border Patrol got them new clothes, maybe let them give them some food, help them shower, clean up, or change. So when HHS sees it, it's not necessarily a different child, but they might look completely different than they did when they came across the border after they were trafficked through Mexico by the cartels. So the HHS caseworker just opens the file, and she goes, oh, the kid has a number. He has a sponsor. He has somebody that's looking for them. They try to contact that person. They do their best due diligence. There's supposed to be a company doing another third party or fourth party company that's doing the background checks. All that clears up. And the caseworker just. She just authorizes the delivery of the child because she vetted the adult that he's going to. Then the kid goes to an ngo, and then the NGO actually takes the child to the person that's receiving the child. So the Border Patrol doesn't. Agent doesn't see that person in person. The HHS caseworker doesn't see that person in person who's receiving the child. The only person who sees the person receiving the child is the ngo, and there's four people away from the original place where that child came in. So when you put all the pieces together, you go, holy crap, our government's running a child trafficking operation. But the epiphany came because I couldn't figure out how. Clayton, how did HHS just, out of nowhere, one executive order, actually 93 executive orders that Joe Biden signs, and he turns America. Within the first two months of the Biden administration, they'd already taken possession of 20,000 children and lost all 20,000 of them. And then by the time me and JJ got on, it was 20,000. Then it was 85,000. Then it was 300,000. It was 325,000. And then Tom Holman, on December 14th of 2024, right before Trump actually became president again, he was elected, but he hadn't actually made it into office yet. The number hit 350,000. So our government took possession of 350,000 children. They vetted the adult that they delivered that child to. Then they tried to make contact 30 days later and they couldn't locate the adult or, or the child. Okay. And I thought, how do, how is it possible that our government was able to do that over a four year period? Because when me and JJ finally wrapped up our documentary by the beginning of 2024, basically, it was like this was a well oiled machine. It was running on all cylinders and every single piece of that operation was firing at mass capacity. And I just couldn't figure it out. Well, it wasn't their first time in the business of trafficking children, Clayton. CPS has been doing it since 1994. As soon as Bill Clinton passed the ASFA act, which is like the American Safe Families act, that created this giant kitty of money for our government, kind of like they did under Covid. We'll get into it in a little bit. But again, it wasn't HHS that was the only one trafficking each other. And they learned because CPS had been doing it for a long time.
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Clayton
So can you maybe explain what CPS is, how it functions and maybe when this switch happened in the 90s, like what changed? Or I mean, did, did it exist before that time? I'm pretty ignorant on this.
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Ryan Mata
Yeah, so was I, Clayton. You know, and I'll have to get a gentleman by the name of Diego. He's. He's the man. He's going to be the star of this documentary. This was his grandchild that they kidnapped. This film's all about baby Cyrus and, and how the system works from the inside. So CPS is supposed to be Child Protective Services. Now each state you'll have like DCF in Florida, DCHS after all these three letter acronyms. So basically we just kind of blanket them under this CPS umbrella for this interview. So CPS is supposed to be there to protect the children. Right? If the outcome.
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Clayton
How does that work? Like, like, how does that. Exactly. Maybe you can take me through the mechanics of that. Exactly. You know, like I always picture, hey, we noticed our neighbors, like they're smoking crack cocaine over there all the time. And like there's this weird smoke coming out there. I think they've got children. I'm going to call the child protective services to kind of check on them, you know, because are they raising that child like in that house, like what's going on over there? And then they come and they take the child away, put them in foster care, they arrest the parents. Like that's what I always picture with cps.
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Ryan Mata
Yeah, I Think that's what all of us picture as cps, and that's kind of like how we end up with these government agencies that are so rogue. It's like the USAID model, right? And Diego says it best. You know, when you have a government agency or any organization or any NGO that does a little amount of good, you can hide a massive amount of bad behind it because people don't want. They. They don't want the gray. Something's either good or something's either bad. A person is either can be trusted or they can't be trusted. It's. There's no little gray area. So CPS is the perfect example for this. So, like you. Like you stated, that's what the organization is supposed to do, right? Maybe it's, you know, on Tuesdays and Wednesdays, all of a sudden, you look over and the kids always run around the backyard at noon. But, you know, the kid goes to school because you watch get on a school bus. But a couple of days a week, this. You know, the kid's always in the backyard playing. You're like, where? I don't even see the mom's car in the driveway. Is it mom not home? Is the mom home? You know, it smells like crack. Or you see them smoking weed out on the back porch and they got kids. That's what that's supposed to be for. Or maybe you. You know, your. Your son brings his buddy over from school, and the kid shows up, and he's just got this black eye that he keeps showing up with, you know, or he's got bruises on his arms, and you think something's not right. That's what CPS was supposed to be created for. And that's what we as Americans think that CPS is actually doing. They're going into a home and they're finding a child that's either in distress and needs help or not, and then they just clear the case and they're on to the next one. But what we realize is that's. That's not really the case at all. A majority of time, when you interview people that have worked in the CPS system or these nurses that work at hospitals, they'll tell you the most egregious stories about CPS and how CPS failed them. They reported CPS on an actual bad parent, and the child was then given back to the bad parent. It's the cases where CPS is called on somebody. Like, we'll use the baby. Cyrus, for example. The Rodrigo family, okay? They're a homeschoolers. They're anti vaxxers. Right. And they have a newborn baby. Now the baby develops what's called cyclic vomiting syndrome. It's a super rare anything. The baby digests it just naturally. It's just a gag reflex. It just throws it up. Okay, so they went to their holistic doctor first. And over the course of several months, the baby kept getting worse and worse. He'd had days where he wouldn't puke for three or four days, and then all of a sudden he'd puke relentlessly, you know, for two or three days straight. So it got to the point where he got into a bad spell. So they took him to the hospital, everything was fine. Interacting with one of the nurses at, at St. Luke's Hospital. And she goes, I'm seeing your, your, your son's behind on a few vaccines. They said, well, yeah, we're, we're no longer going to vaccinate our kid. And she goes, oh. And she. And they said, at that exact moment, that's when the entire demeanor of the nurse at the hospital changed. And it went from you guys are good parents to basically, I'm going to need you to sign you up for these classes and you have no choice but to take these classes or I can call cps. So the parents go, okay, well, we'll take the classes. She went to the first two, and the third one was on a Friday morning. She woke up sick and said, hey, I'm not going to be able to make it to class today. I'm not feeling well. I'm going to reschedule that visit for Saturday. And then she went back to sleep, went through the class. She woke up with basically all hell breaking loose. So the nurse had called cps. CPS was wanting to come meet with them. They missed their mandatory reporting, yada, yada, yada. That let one thing led to the next, and next thing you know, they're at a gas station and they're surrounded by the sheriffs and they're getting drug out of their car at gunpoint. And their child was taken to them over that one altercation. Now, the re that why they messed up on this case and why it became the largest CPS case in the history of our country was because their dad was a pastor, been a pastor for 12 years, and their uncle was Bundy, and Bundy was running for governor in the state of Utah at the time, so. Or sorry, in the state of Idaho. So when they took the child from them, within 24 hours, they had 400 people outside of the hospital protesting. And within 36 hours, they had a thousand people out in front of that hospital protesting. And the story became so big and they got so much attention that they actually ended up getting their child back eight days later. But when the child was taken, they still haven't had access to the medical records. The kid showed up with pricks on its arm. The kid had the vomiting syndrome, where they were just letting the baby lay there in the. In the bassinet and puking on himself. So he had all of the vomit rash all on the side of his face. The entire family has these crazy photos. And your audience has seen him in this documentary. I mean, it's. It's. It's horrifying what was done to this child in just the simple eight days that they have them. And they're. They're one of only 50, 54% of children that are taken by CPS never see their family again.
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Clayton
54% of these children never see their family again is what you said.
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Ryan Mata
Last year, our government kidnapped 480,000 children, right? According to an own CPS audit in 2019. This was an internal audit done by CPS themselves. They reviewed all of the children that they took that year. 83.3% of the time, CPS was in the wrong. 54% of the time, the child never sees his mother again. That's 215,000 and roughly 93 children. If these numbers are accurate, as they are today, that would have been taken in the wrong by cps, and they will never see their parents again.
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Clayton
How would you describe cps?
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Ryan Mata
As one of the most evil and disgusting government organizations in the entire country. And that's saying a lot considering the cps, or, I mean, considering we have the CIA, the FBI, hhs, dhs, CPS is by far the absolute worst. When you think about. As a man, you're put on this earth for one purpose, and that's to protect women and children in general, but your own children. Imagine a government organization who doesn't need a warrant and has the ability to show up to your house and take your child at gunpoint.
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Clayton
Who gives them that authority? Where does that authority come from?
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Ryan Mata
You know, that's. That's a great question, Clayton, and I don't think I have the. The exact answer, but it all derives in the. In the ASFA Act. So the ASFA act was created in 1993, and you remember when Covid hit and our government didn't have the authority at a state level, so they put up this big kitty of money and they Said, hey, if you guys want access to all this Covid money, you got to ratify your state constitutions to give the government this special type of authority. And all 52 states or all 50 states went around and they all ratified that constitution, right? And then that gave the government this excess power. So what the ASFA acted is the very exact same thing. It basically creates this big pool of money and it gives that money to the state level, but different organizations. So for example, the sheriff's department only has access to this large sum of money if they forcibly remove X amount of children from their parents custody. So when caseworker from CPS shows up at your house, she shows up with a sheriff or that authority figure and the sheriff tells you that, well, we're here to take your child. If the sheriff doesn't actually, if they don't separate the child from the parent, they don't get access to that money. And there's, there's like a whole checklist for each government organization from the doctor's office to the healthcare workers, to the caseworkers, to the foster care parents to the doctors at the hospital, they each have a certain requirement, a certain quota if you will, that they need to check. And once they check that quota, they then get access to this big pool of money. So the whole operation stems. And if you want to just literally just, just abolish cps, you would get rid of the federal funding because no state wants to fund an organization which they have to fund out of their own pocket. But when, you know, when Uncle Sam's funding the bill, sure, yeah, we'll take more money and then just, you know how government agencies work, just imagine how much of that money is actually laundered off and siphoned off and given out in kickbacks and bribes and all the other crap that goes along with it.
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Clayton
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Ryan Mata
Has the rk, my friend.
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Clayton
So it's under hhs.
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Ryan Mata
Yes, sir, sure does. So this is actually why I'm so excited to release this documentary, because I would hope, and I would assume that RFK and even the Trump administration really have no idea how evil and disgusting CPS has become. But, I mean, it's pretty bad, Clayton. Really bad.
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Clayton
So these children, I mean, I want to get back into the mechanics. And you're going to take me through the, the whole, you know, a lot of pieces of the documentary. I want everyone to watch the documentary. By the way. By the way, where can people catch the documentary?
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Ryan Mata
Yeah, so right now, because we just released it today, it's actually exclusively over on X. So for the first 48 hours, the only place that you can watch this documentary is over on X. And we're going to attempt to upload it to YouTube and then definitely Rumble as well.
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Clayton
Okay.
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Ryan Mata
And then good luck with Ryan Madam Media. Sorry, yeah, sorry. YouTube is @ryan Matta Films and then over on X is at Ryan Madame Media and Rumble. It's just Ryan Matta.
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Clayton
Okay. Yeah, good luck on YouTube. See how quickly that gets suppressed. I mean, it's amazing. Any time we cover child trafficking here on YouTube, it just gets. I mean, YouTube does not promote it. They do not want people knowing about this for sure.
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So, cps, let's talk about the children and what happens to these children when they're in custody. So you can you take me through a couple of different cases here. Like, where do they, like, do they have facilities? Do they have, like, where we know, like they have FEMA beds in different locations. Where are they taken? And then who is overseeing them? Is there like a nurse on standby? Are they watching to make sure? You know, I just want to know, understand, because anytime the government gets involved with anything, it's a disaster. So now you're literally protecting the most precious things in our country. Little children, like, what are they doing when they're in the protection of cps. And I love that the name protection is in their title.
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Ryan Mata
So they show up with a caseworker at your house and they immediately take your child. Let's just say we'll just get to the point where they've taken your child at your house, they leave with it. The child leaves with the caseworker. She then probably goes back to their actual. Their caseworker's office where they'll then meet with a foster care worker. Okay, now we have, we have group homes where they'll probably go, you know, if they can't find an immediate foster care individual, a person that's willing to take or has room to take one more child, they'll probably go to a group home and then they're in the group home for X amount of time until they can actually find a foster care parent, somebody to actually take these kids in. Now, the foster care parent is probably Making money hand over fist, depending on how many kids she can have at one time or she, he, he can have at one time. And I also wanted to throw out. I believe that if you are a pedophile and you haven't offended in the last five years, you can legally become a foster care parent here in America. Okay?
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Clayton
So as if there's something that you can unlearn. Hey, I haven't been a pedophile for five years, so I'm totally clean now. Like, I'm sort of fixed, which never is the case.
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Ryan Mata
Right, right.
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Clayton
You don't just not become a pedophile after five years. Like, that's not how this works. And this is literally in their own documents that, like, hey, you know, we have such trouble placing these children that we're willing to place them with pedophiles.
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Ryan Mata
Yes, that's in their own documentation. 100%. You can become a foster care parent as long as you haven't offended in the last five years. And like Clayton just said there, okay, Charles Manson, conserve enough time in prison. You can be a serial killer and go to prison for an extended amount of time, and you can be rehabilitated and reintroduced into society. And you will not repeat, offend. You can be a serial arsonist, somebody who gets their rocks off literally burning down houses. You can be reintroduced into society and you won't repeat offend with enough time in prison. A pedophile, a rapist will repeat offend 100 of the time. Clayton. They cannot be rehabilitated and they should never be reintroduced in society. Not only that, can they be reintroduced into society here in America, but then they can become a foster care parent. So the foster care parent now has the child who, you know, you see might be a pedophile five years ago, but now he's rehabilitated by our system, and now he has the right to watch your child and take care of your child. And then the child remains in foster care until the court system is done doing their process. Right. If you're an alcoholic, maybe you're a single father. You get in a car accident, you've been drinking and driving, you killed somebody, you're going to prison for 20 years. Right? You're not going to get your kid back. You're going to be in prison. Okay? So that kid has to be. They have to find a home for it. They have to attempt to find a home for it. You might get a temporary foster care parent or you might be able to find somebody eventually. It takes at least a year, maybe even two Year process for you to find a good home and somebody to get adopted out to. I think if it's a family member or relative, you can kind of probably expedite that process and your relative can get temporary custody while the courts figure out the process. But most of the time that's not the case. The the kid is just goes into a foster care system and that foster care system will take care of that. That foster care parent will take care of that child until he or she is no longer fit to, or he or she no longer wants to, or the courts decide that they don't want them to. So these kids can be boss. Bossed around. You know, some of the kids that we've interviewed, you know, had been bounced around between five foster care homes or five foster care parents in a year. So it's like musical chairs for these kids. They go, they get ripped out of their parents arms. You know, whether the parents, you know, even abusive parents. It seems like the children still love their parents. Right? You know, they're not always abusive. 24, seven parents make some mistakes. And it seems like a lot of the time that these children are put into the absolute worst environment ran by the worst people. And I can tell you that just off. Let me just tell you some, a few statistics here so I can kind of show your audience what life is like for these children. Okay, right now, 98% of children who are sex trafficking survivors had previous involvement with the child welfare system.
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You understand that statistic? 98% of the children who are sex trafficking survivors had previous involvement with our welfare system. That's a big number.
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Clayton
And when we say welfare system, we mean CPS or some other version of that.
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Ryan Mata
Yes, some other's version of our government, you know, providing what should be a home, some type of welfare service for these children. Not of, not of. Out of all children reporting missing who are likely sex trafficking victims, 60% were in foster care or in grouped homes at the time that they ran away. At least 85% of commercial sexual exploitation of children. The C Scamp, C Sec, the C span, the stuff that we, you know, they find on the Internet. 85% of them had a history in the welfare system. They did a study in 2010. They interviewed 63% of survived, survived adolescent sex trafficking victims reported that they had some type of involvement in the welfare system. And I can go on and on and on, Clayton, with statistic after statistic after statistic. So we are kidnapping, right? 54% of the time the children never see their parents. 83% of the time CPS is in the wrong, that's 215,000 children a year. And it continues to scale. Last year it was probably 420. Year before that it was 360. Because our government has a quota and they are going to meet that quota every time. Okay, so whatever.
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Clayton
Can you talk about that quota? I'm sorry, I missed that part. What quota do they have?
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Ryan Mata
So remember I explained the ASFA act, right? That creates this large kitty of money. Well, at the state level, in order to get access to that money, the sheriff office will need to remove 20 children from. They'll need to separate 20 children from the parents. Right, the foster care workers, every year. So as that kitty of money gets bigger, you would assume that the requirements are going to get bigger. Because if you want. If the sheriff office needs more money. Right, because we need more officers. Right. You can point to this and go, well, we were so busy, you know, taking all these and dealing with all these CPS cases. We didn't have enough men be out there working the traffic lights or whatever the case may be. It's. The system always keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger. Every government organization. Who was it? Was it Reagan who said, like, the only thing more immortal than the Bible is basically like a government organization or something like that?
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Clayton
Oh, yeah, yeah. He also famously said, was it the words you never want to hear? I'm with the government and I'm here to help? Right? That's never something you want to believe. Number one, someone's knocking on your door. I'm here with the government and I'm here to help. I want to go back to this quota piece because this seems to be a big part of it. Have you ever seen the movie Falling down with Michael Douglas? Like a 90s movie, I'm sure.
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Ryan Mata
Classic. Sounds really familiar.
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Clayton
An amazing movie and actually maybe even more relevant today. But I'm always struck by this one scene where he's just so fed up. He's so fed up with the lies and the BS of, you know, both the government and just everything on that we deal with. And he's having, like, sort of a mental breakdown. But in his mental breakdown, there's like a lot of truths, right? And so he's like wandering the streets with a gun. He's just kind of going nuts and. And he just sees like this traffic, people honking their horns. They can't get through because an entire intersection is like, under construction. And he doesn't think that they're doing any work at all because this Guy's just sitting there eating a sandwich. They're just like to listen to the radio. They're not actually working on this piece of ground at all. And he goes up to the guy and he says, what's going on here? He says, we're replacing the sewer lines here. The sewer lines here, or whatever. And he says, no, you're not. He's like, you guys just did that, like, whatever, you know. And he said, yeah, we are. And he pulls out a bazooka or something and he says, tell me the truth. He's like, you guys aren't doing anything. And the reason they're not doing anything is because they have to look like they're doing something in order to reach their quota, in order for their budget to be the same or greater in the next year, right? So they're not actually doing anything to the street. They're just inconveniencing all of these other people. And then he flips out. And the guy admits that that's the truth, that they're not actually doing any work, but they're just trying to make quota and so the know the government can shovel them some more money. And then he pulls the bazooka out and he blows up the whole thing, which is just. Anyway. Anyway, to my point is that that's what often happens with this. Like, there might not be 20 children. So do they forcibly. Do they try to hit that number somehow, even though it doesn't even reach that requirement? We got to find 20 children.
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Ryan Mata
Absolutely, Clayton. They're going to hit that number because this is where you start getting into, like I said, 83. According to their own study, 83.3% of the time, CPS was in the wrong and they didn't have the proper. The rights, but they did anyways. So when CPS shows, like, let's just say you called on me, right? I'm your neighbor. You call on me and CPS shows up at my house. I'm a great dad. I have nothing to hide, right? Why would I not let CPS into my home? Question any good parent. You would. You probably think to yourself, I got nothing to hide. I'm a great parent. Yeah, come on in to the case. Square walk walks in and goes, oh, you got a bunch of clothes that aren't folded over there on your couch.
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Oh, do you always let your dog pee on your floor? You got a new puppy and it looks like it just peed over here on the floor. Oh, those dishes in the sink back there? Yeah, they're not good. Where do you take your kid to the hospital? Is your kid up to date on all of his vaccines? Oh, no, I don't vaccinate. Oh, you don't vaccinate your child? Oh, you homeschool your child. Oh, okay. I'm just. I'm just taking some notes here. Right. They can create any reason, Clayton, in any scenario. Once you open that door, according to every single person that I've interviewed, too, they swear by this. You never open that door. If you don't have a warrant, you have no right to come into my home. I don't have to answer any of your questions. Get off my lawn. Get off my property. Okay? And a lot of times they'll show up with a sheriff, too, to act like they have the authority, but unless they have that warrant, you don't have to let them into your home. Now, if they come up to take your. Actually feasibly take your kid for whatever reason, then, yes, you have to give up your kid. But the first time that they contact you, you do not have to open that door. You do not have to let them into your home, because once you do, you're literally opening up the gates of hell. Because if they want to find something, they are going to find something no matter what you say, no matter what you do. And then from there, once they get the kid into the hospital, that's the first place they got to take to make sure the kid's okay. Now you. Now you're entering a system where you're seeing those. The cops are working with those doctors every day. The caseworkers are working with those doctors every day. They have this relationship with the doctors, and the doctors are pretty much the golden calf, right? They're untouchable. When you go to court and trying to fight for your kid, if a doctor says, you know, your kid was puking and vomiting because you were neglecting the child, is the judge going to argue how. How do you argue around that? Oh, your kid's sick. And. And in this condition, because you didn't vaccinate your kid, you. You were neglecting your child. Any reason? A doctor's word is, like, basically more powerful than a lawyer's, than a judge's, than anybody's. So once a doctor deems that you're an unfit parent, it's basically game over for the parent. They're going to have a hell of a time actually getting their child back at that point. So that's kind of how the system works and how these quotas are. I don't know how the system in the doctors and how the doctors are specifically incentivized. But you could imagine the amount of volume that a hospital gets from all the case where all the caseworkers, all the, you know, all the cops, everybody that's just bringing this never ending, relentless cycle of children from the foster care system into this specific hospital. You would assume that a specific hospital has specific contracts with our government and gets certain grants and access to certain capital for certain things that they do or services that they provide. And it just becomes this revolving door from the case where caseworkers to the cops, to the social workers to the foster care homes, and then you have the parents that are getting the short end of the stick.
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Clayton
Let's go back to the children and the placement of these children and where the families they're going to, the pedophiles that they're going to. You know, it's hard for me. It's like that's where people get, they don't want to believe it that their government could be facilitating child sex trafficking in the United States. When we've covered that deeply here on the show under the Department of homeland security, under HHS, through these NGOs, bringing these children across the border, they're then, you know, carried to different locations across the United States into families. Very often those children are being used as sex slaves. They're being killed. How is what CPS is doing different from like what we've covered for years under the Department of Homeland Security and ferreting these illegal immigrant children into pedophiles in the sex trafficking operation in the United States?
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Ryan Mata
Yeah. So let's, let's, let me, let me paint the picture on how HHS worked first and I'll show you the comparison. But I want to hit you with a statistic real quick, real quick. If your child is adopted out through the foster care system, there is an 800% higher probability that your child will be adopted out to a gay couple.
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Clayton
800%.
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Ryan Mata
800%. And you just think logically, if you're a teenage girl, you're 16, and for whatever reason, you don't want to have an abortion, but you don't want to keep your baby. You just want to give it up for adoption. You want to, you want it to go to the best home possible. You're thinking as a pregnant mother who's, you know, probably hearts ripping as she's giving away her child, you think she's likely to sign her child over to one of these gay couples. After everything that we've seen on the Internet from these gay couples who have adopted children over the last four years. No, no. But who's more than aware of it? But who's more than happy?
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Clayton
Maybe you can explain. You can explain what we have seen on the Internet. Maybe you can share some of the statistics about gay couples.
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Ryan Mata
So there was that. That gay couple. I forget what role they had in the administration, but I believe they adopted two gay children. And they were. I don't want to get this.
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Clayton
The administration, The Biden administration.
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Ryan Mata
Correct. Yep. And they adopted these two children and they sexually abused them to a point where I believe one of the child's children had to be hospitalized. And now they're both facing. I think it's like 20 or 30 years in prison for what they did. They were sitting, like, I want to say it was satanic ritual abuse, but was. It was. It was graphic, it was bad. It was disgusting at the worst levels. Again, if I have to describe it here, we'll immediately get this taken down. So, like, the. No, just picture in your head, no matter what image, like, when you think of a child being abused and you're thinking of the worst possible scenario in your head, it is a hundred times worse than that. You know, like I've explained this before, but one of the girls that they rescued, one of the migrant children that came across, she was chained in a man's basement for two years, where that man let seven to ten men every day come into his house and have her have his way with those children. At the end of the night, he would cook her a plate of food. He would dump it on the floor. As she was eating it, he would be abusing her. And then after he was done abusing her, he would smoke a cigarette while this girl, little girl set five. Five years old to seven years old, was chained in this man's basement and eating her dinner every night off a cement floor that had been. You know, men had been down there doing their thing with her all day. She's chained in there 24 hours a day, chain there, goes to the bathroom in a bucket. After he was done, he would put a cigarette butt out on her arm. When the cops rescued this poor little girl, her arms were so covered, Clayton, you probably couldn't see more than, like, a few specks, little holes of actual skin, everything else with a scar. And when the gentleman interviewed the guy, because he was the one who went and saved this girl, we interviewed the man who actually kicked in that door. He has a rescue organization. He's. He's rescued 1500 children since he's been doing it for like the last seven years, and he's brought all 1500 home alive. He's the best in the world at it, I would say. So he interviewed the guy and he asked him, well, why. Why did you put those cigarette butts out in her arms? And he said, because if you guys ever caught me or she ever escaped, I wanted her to be reminded every time she looked at her arms how I savagely abused her.
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You know, it and it, and it. And it makes your heart turn. And then this is just one example of thousands of stories we could tell you. You know, some of the little girls they found at the border, you know, we're no longer alive. And they have 21 different samples of DNA inside them. And the girls were three. You know, one of the. One of the other girls, she had been abused so bad that she had to have, I think it was like 13 surgeries just so she could urinate properly. Okay? And you gotta think, when these kids, you know, they're these little, poor little angels and they're getting abused so bad by such dirty scumbags, you know, they don't wear condoms. These kids get rid of with STDs. When they get STDs, they're not getting taken to the hospital. When a guy gets a little too rough with the girl and, you know, breaks a jaw or breaks a finger, she doesn't get to go to the hospital, okay? Like, and so they just. That's why the life expectancy of one of these children who's being trafficked goes from 72 years to. To 24 to 36 months. And that's me being generous, because their poor little bodies can't sustain that type of abuse for extended periods of time. So in hhs, how that worked was basically, if a child arrived at that border without a parent and he had some type of name tag or some type of information of an adult that he was going to go to, it was the border patrol put that into the system. And then HHS was supposed to do this type of background check. So they had different criterias, right? So if it was like a mother and a father that the kid was going to. That was like, let's just say tier one. So tier one meant that we only had to investigate the person who was receiving the child. So in cps, when a child's going to a foster care system or a child's getting adopted out, a full background check needs to be done on every single resident at the house because you want to make sure. That, you know, somebody's uncle's not living with you who just got out of prison for molesting somebody. Right. Every single person who's registered at that address has to have a full background check done. How HHS realized, well, that's way too much work, and there's no way that this operation could run with those protocols in play. So they did a tier structure. So again, tier one was the. The actual direct parents. Tier two would have been a, like an aunt, an uncle, a cousin, a brother. Tier 2, they had to do. They still only had to do one background check. Tier 3, which was just basically an acquaintance then. Then all people living at that home had to have background checks done. So that's some of the criteria that they go through. I'm sure they check your criminal arrest records. They probably check, you know, any DUIs. Do you have any criminal charges recently? Do you have any open pending cases? You have a dishonorable discharge from the military. And all their criteria that they determine is this person a fit parent. Now, in hhs, there would be no home visits, right? So you would think that you would want to actually, hey, if we're the government and we took possession of somebody else's child specifically, like, it's one thing if you're taking them from the parents here in America, but it's another thing just to have some random child's. Random parents kid. And then you're. You're just gonna. You. You think that they would wanna make sure that the home that they're going to isn't, I don't know, like a strip club? Because you guys remember that story, right? We got a whistleblower that came forward and they had 8,000 addresses that they gave us of all where all these migrant children were supposed to be getting delivered to. It's supposed to be their home residence, right? And I think it made. They made it for through the first 100 before one of the addresses that they searched on Google came back as a strip club. Meaning our government took physical possession of a child. An adult showed up with like, that fake ID that I always show you guys that I bought in. I don't know if I have it on me, but I bought it in New York City off a Venezuelan gang banger. And it took me like, what, five minutes to buy this id? I don't have it on me, but.
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Clayton
Look, crazy, you were texting me. You were like, clayton, I literally got an ID off a Venezuelan gang member in like, five minutes. It's that easy to get a fake.
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Ryan Mata
ID yeah, it took us 15 minutes. Me and Carlos got it, got that fake ID. And then once I have that fake ID, then I can use that ID to fill out the FRA application and then they're going to contact me and they're going to, they're supposed to do a, an address check. So in. And you would think with our government having the FBI, the CIA, the NSA and all these databases, right, they collect all of our information. It's all there. They could simply use one of these agencies and say, hey, can you run this address and just see there's any arrest record there? If there's any bad activity happening in the last couple of years, anything that stands out that you think we should know about. They don't do any of that. They don't do any official FBI background checks. Like if I want to go and get a residency card in El Salvador, I got to go to the FBI and I have to get this, you know, basically 10 page document of my entire arrest record. And then, then I have to get that notarized and clamped in this specific format and then mailed directly into the El Salvadorian government. You think it would be that strict to get somebody's child? But it's not. There's. There, there. There is no home visit, Clayton, for hhs. So we're gonna. That's how, that's exactly how kids were getting delivered to strip clubs. That's how. What was it, like 565 children were delivered to one apartment complex that has 50 units that could hold. It would be like there would be nine children in every room, in every apartment at this apartment complex because our government authorized the delivery of like 500 children to the same apartment complex. Like, you can't make these things up, but it happens because they remove these, these guardrails, right? So CPS has been in existence for a lot longer and in the child trafficking game a lot longer than hhs. So CPS has probably had their. You know, so many parents have spoken out about it and so much has happened that we now kind of have what we would think the outside looking in is a bulletproof system. There's no way children are going to bad parents or bad people with all the technology that we have that it's just not possible, Right? Well, it is, but, but how is that happening? I don't know. How do somebody go, go into a house and they see this environment, they allow the kid to go there. They must be very good at this facade. But again, that's the adoption part of it. If the part for being a foster care parent, you probably get a home visit one time, and then after you get certified to be a foster care worker. You think they're coming over there every week to check on the foster care homes? I don't think so. I highly doubt it. There's no way. So that's kind of how we end up in these situations.
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Clayton
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Ryan Mata
You know Clayton, that's a great, that's a great study. And I don't know how if we would ever be able to actually get accurate statistics and data on that. Like if our government would release the amount of children that they've been given out to a gay couple versus the amount of children that have been abused in the system from said gay couple. But I will, I will. I'll get back to you on that. We're going. This, this, this question will come up again in one of our interviews and I'll make sure I have the answer to that.
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Clayton
I don't right now, but we do have the data on, on how important it is for there to be a nuclear family and have a man and a wife, a husband and wife, a father and a mother in a family, and how much more successful that child will be in that environment. So we know that overwhelmingly and how important it is to have those biological differences in a family. So I can only imagine that there would be the inverse of that. But yeah, we'll go down that rabbit hole another time. But. Well, so we got the differences. Go ahead. Sorry.
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Ryan Mata
No, I do. I want to say you're 100% right, because what I just read that that very first statistic I gave you was 98% of children who are sex trafficking survivors had previous involvement with the child welfare system. So whatever environment that we are taking these children out of and whatever environment we are putting them into, we are almost guaranteed that's a 98 chance. Clayton, that's not, it's not little. I was doing my own independent research and I was finding that if you are a female right now, if Cash Patel and his FBI, they're, they're going out guns blazing, right? And they're kicking in all these doors right now and they're quote, unquote, rescuing all these children. Well, 70% chance, Clayton, if it's a female under the age of 14, that she will have came through the welfare system. 70% chance, if it's a male, it's like 48 to like 55. That means over, that's well over half in both.
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Clayton
So did you, I mean, it's, it's so disgusting on so many levels. And I, you know, I don't even know where to wrap my brain around it. Did you hear from CPS whistleblowers? Did you hear from people who worked in Child Protective Services that are now on the other side of this and are telling, telling you what they, what they went through?
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Ryan Mata
So, you know, I do my documentaries, I do them in, in these series. Right. You know, I kind of, you kind of got to explain what the system is and then you go explaining how the system works and operates. I'm going to break it down. My next follow up documentary to this is going to be exactly that. You're going to hear from the doctors, you're going to hear from the nurses, you're Going to hear from the parents. Why you don't hear from more people about this. And this is the most disgusting part about this entire operation. Once they take your child, your child pretty much goes into witness protection, okay? Once the government takes a child from a loving family and they rip that child out of the parents arms, the child basically goes into witness protection, okay? Now you're able to, you might get once a week supervised visits or whatever type of visitation they allow. But outside that, the foster care parent dictates all the rules. You might, you're, you might supposed to be getting a phone call with your kid once a week at a specific time. Well, if the kid was, didn't do his laundry or he didn't do the dishes, or he didn't eat all the food on the plate, the foster care parent has the ability to say no, you don't get the. Your kid with kid was acting bad, he lost his phone privileges. He doesn't get to talk to you this week.
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After the kid is taken and they get into the court system, the parents are hit with a gag order. Not only are you hit with a gag order and you'll be threatened to be arrested if you speak out, you'll also lose your visitation rights. So once they take your kid, you are completely compliant to this system that they've created, which is rigged and designed for you to fail. And if you try to fight back, you try to speak out, you try to do anything, you're going to lose the rights and the ability to visit your child and you might lose your freedom in the process.
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It's pretty bizarre, isn't it?
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Clayton
It's crazy.
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When you look at, I'm always curious who these foster families are because.
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You know, you get this idea of like Annie, right? Sort of the propaganda around it and like these foster, these foster parents, you know, they're kind of angels taking these children in. But of course, so many horror movies have been made about foster families or foster parents. And the horror stories seem like they might be rooted in reality here. Like, I don't want to paint every foster family with the same brush here, but you see what I'm saying, it just, it just seems odd and off. And I'm curious, like, what sort of vetting goes into these foster families, these foster parents, who these people are? How deep is that research? As you mentioned, five years free of being a pedophile is good enough. But who are these foster people?
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Ryan Mata
Yeah. So, you know, you think about, let's just say you're, you're 16 years old. Now, now you have the Internet, so this, this information would not be hard to, to figure out. Right? Like, if you start realizing that you're a pedophile and you have this urge for younger children, are you gonna risk going out on the street and taking somebody's child? Or are you gonna realize that there's a system and if you play that system, you can then get access to the world's most vulnerable children? Okay, you can be a foster care parent. All you have to do is if you're a pedophile and you have this itch and you don't have kids and you haven't been in trouble, all you have to do now is not get in trouble and go get a job working in the foster care system. You could start out at a group home, you could start out wherever you want, and eventually you can become a foster parent. And I don't think that the rules are that strict. It seems pretty cut and dry. There's a basic set of criteria. If you meet that criteria, you can then become a foster care parent. And if being a pedophile five years ago is part of that requirement, that that's allowed, you could, you can imagine what the rest of the requirements are. You probably have to have no arrest record, no felonies on your record, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And anybody who's anybody can become a foster care parent. And then you're going to immediately have access to the most vulnerable children. You're having access. If you're getting a foster care child, a majority of the time you're getting a child who had no parents or brothers or sisters or siblings or aunts or uncles or brothers or anybody who could have stepped in and said, yes, you know what, we'll take that child. Because after, right after the cop does his job and separates the child and CPS is involved, their quote is hit. If that kid then goes off to an aunt or an uncle, by all means, that's great. But if he doesn't, oh, well, right. It doesn't matter to these people. And again, the system is so decompartmentalized that each person is just doing their role. And you asked about whistleblower. So I interviewed this nurse, and she worked at a local hospital here in Michigan. And the, the scariest part is none of these people want to speak on the record. That's the hardest out of all the stuff I've investigated, this is the hardest time I've ever had getting somebody to actually sit down with me on the, on the record. They'll all sit down and tell me the crazy stories. Off the record, she's working at a hospital. One day this kid came in and he had, and he had a broken leg. And when he came in, the kids looked malnutritious. They basically had lice in their hair. They just look like the most unhealthy and not taking care of children ever. Right? So talking to the kids, the kids said that dad hit him or dad pushed me down the stairs or whatever it was that ended up breaking his leg. So she calls cps. CPS comes in, gets involved, does whatever they do, they don't take the kids. Next week comes, the other brother, comes in, broken arm, okay, they call CPS again. CPS does nothing. Doesn't take the child, doesn't, does it? A little investigation lets the children go back home with the parents. Two weeks later, both kids were dead because CPS did nothing. So when the system's there to protect the children, it's almost not protecting the children that need it the most. And it's being weaponized to kidnap parents, children from parents who love them.
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Clayton
Do we know any evidence? And again, maybe this is part of your follow up documentary. These CPS individuals were receiving kickbacks, incentives, money. We know that these NGOs on the HHS side that have been facilitating all of the illegal child trafficking into the United States are receiving buckets of cash. Is CPS involved in that money laundering operation to enrich themselves?
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Ryan Mata
You know, I haven't seen it at the higher levels like we would see it in, in hhs. But I've only been investigating the CPS animal for about six months now, maybe, maybe eight months. I'll have some more information for you next time. I.
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Clayton
Come on.
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How do we fix this? Because as we said at the top, this sits underneath RFK Juniors, hhs. So either we fix this or eliminate it. And I know as journalists it's not on us to have all the solutions right. We report what exists, we report the facts. And people in government who are going to be doing this or have task force and so forth to put together solutions. But you've been on the front lines of this, interviewing these families. You see it in action, what might there be and by way of fixing this, any suggestions and how we. Or just tear the whole thing down?
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Ryan Mata
Yeah, Diego does the best job at explaining this and he knows more about statistics, everything. Every question that I couldn't answer, he could answer in, in great detail. And he says the simplest way to fix this is you get rid of the as fact, you remove the, the Federal funding and you put it back on a state level and you let the states figure out and run these programs because once that big kitty of money is not there, they're not financially incentivized to destroy these families. And once you take that funding apparatus away, you fix the whole entire system. I think that's a big fix and a big play and there's a lot of moving parts and it's like, you know, you're hiding this little amount of good, right? There are the crack babies that get taken from the parents and somehow make it into a system and make it out all right. There are we, we do need some type of system that allows a, a law enforcement officer to temporary take custody of a child without forcibly destroying their family. And there being this for profit system, I, I don't really have the greatest answer. I think we should also start focusing on like what are these gag orders, right? When you're a parent, somebody takes your child, you don't even have the right to speak out. You don't have the right to defend yourself, you don't have the right to talk about it. How, how is that possible? When you come into my home without a warrant, you can kidnap my child and then you can prevent me from fighting and defending myself and trying to stick up like, the system seems so broken in so many places that I don't even know if it can be fixed. Clayton. I think it needs to be completely dismantled and rebuilt at the ground level, at the state level, state by state by state. And I think eventually you'll start to see over a five year period, a ten year period, each state will have their own solution and way that they go about fixing this, dealing with it. And you'll start to hear stories of the children and see the results of, okay, this state did it this way. This worked really well. We're actually saving children. We're not tearing apart families, we're not taking children from parents who love them. And then other states it'll, it'll be worse and obviously probably a lot worse in California, New York, these Democrat run hell holes versus maybe say Florida or maybe say Texas.
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Clayton
Yeah, I think those are good suggestions. I think getting rid of the federal funding, you know, where they feel the need and compelled to meet this quota might be a great place to start. Right? Because we want these children to be protected and we want them to be. If we know that there's a family that's like a crackhead family and this poor child is being raised in that environment, of course all of us want the best for that child and we want them to go into a good home. But if it's a for profit system and the oversight is coming, you know, enables them to be placed with pedophiles and all sorts of horrible situations, this needs to change and maybe it needs to be burned down. I hope RFK Jr is paying attention to this.
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Final thoughts. Ryan, before we get you out of.
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Ryan Mata
Here.
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Clayton
What are you hoping you'll see here from Child Protective Services? What are you hoping your documentary will do?
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Ryan Mata
You know, Clayton, I just, I hope I just gave a voice to the families that have had their childs taken from cps because when I made a post about, hey, what should I make a documentary on next, it was like, you know, 5,000 to 1, pretty much came back with CPS, like that's how many families there are out there. Millions of families have had their lives destroyed. I mean, think about if you know your kid or both of them, the government came in and made up some stuff, slapped some gag orders and took your kids. You had no way to fight for it. You would spiral. Your marriage would go down the drain, your relationship with yourself would be destroyed. You'd become an alcoholic. I know. It'd be a drug addict, I'd be an alcoholic. I would be spiraling so fast to rock bottom that I don't know if anybody could even stop me. So I, I have the most sympathy for these parents. And you know, think about that when, if you were one of these families and they took one of your kids and you try to tell your family member about it, your family thinks the government's good and they're here to help. They would never take your child if it wasn't your fault. So I feel like their relationships with their friends, their relatives, all of it have been destroyed. And I just hope my documentary comes out, gives them a voice. I hope everybody records their own video. I'm telling everybody to go down in the comments of my documentary. If you had an interaction with cps, this is your chance. Everybody's going to be going through these comments. Record a short 5, 10 minute video, drop it down in the comments and let's hope that RFK and this administration is really paying attention because this is one hill that I'm willing to die on. And I know many people have before me have already came and tried to do it and they're, and they're no longer with us. So that's about all I got. Clayton.
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Clayton
Our guest is Ryan Mata. The the new documentary Never in America. It is happening in America. And it's Child Protective Services, as you said, Ryan, to be. I want to be accurate, one of the most evil organizations in the United States of America, dare I say a satanic organization.
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That needs to be stopped, needs to be revitalized, needs to be completely rebuilt, maybe from the ground up. It's available now. You can check it out on X for the next 48 hours. Is that correct?
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Ryan Mata
Yes, sir. It'd be exclusively on X for the next 48 hours, Clayton. Then it'll be on every platform after that.
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Clayton
All right, check out Ryan, Madame Media on X to be able to check that out and we'll see if YouTube allows you to publish it there on their platform. We'll see. Ryan, great to see you. As always. Thank you so much for the incredible work.
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Ryan Mata
God bless you, Clayton. Thanks so much.
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Clayton
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