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Georgia
Usually every single week over on Amazon Music, we release brand new episodes of our bite sized sister show Shorthand. It's like Red Handed's Little Friend, where we delve into all sorts of fascinating topics from hell in different religions, Haitian Voodoo, the death of Edgar Allan Poe, Cotard syndrome, Japan, Suicide Forest, and so much more.
Helen
And this Halloween, from the 19th of October to the 31st of October, we are going to be pulling out 13 of our most terrifying episodes of Shorthand to drop straight into your Red Handed feed every single day.
Georgia
But beware, each episode will only be available for 24 hours, so get listening or abandon all hope.
Helen
Enjoy. Hey Poindexter, it's Halloween.
Georgia
Put the book away. For your information, I'm about to read you a classic tale of terror by Edgar Allan Poe. Hello? Hello. All Hallows Eve is almost upon us. I can feel the veil thinning from here.
Helen
Hooray.
Georgia
And when you look at the great literary pantheon of horror, it's just not complete without the American short story writer, poet, critic, and former Stoke Newington resident, and also editor, the master of the macabre, Edgar Allan Poe.
Helen
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Georgia
I'm saying nothing and I want that on the record. Edgar Allan Poe, however, very much is on the record. He changed writing forever with his spooky atmospheres, psychological hijinks, and sheer preternatural creepiness in stories like the Telltale Heart, the Mask of the Red Death, the Fall of the House of Usher. Usher. And of course, Lisa Simpson's favorite, the Raven.
Helen
The Raven is just a very satisfying poem to read. Yeah, it's just so fun. I love it.
Georgia
Yeah.
Helen
The Fall of the House of Usher.
Georgia
Yeah.
Helen
And what Netflix did to it.
Georgia
The Fall of the House Of Usher is my favourite Edgar Allan Poe story.
Helen
Prison to Netflix.
Georgia
I told you that I fell out with my friend about it. What? My friend tried to tell me that it was better than Hill House and I was like, I actually need quite a lot of space and time away from you now.
Helen
How, on what planet is it better than Hill House?
Georgia
Don't get me started on what they had to say about Bly Manor, because I actually will expire.
Helen
Uh, I think the Fall of the House of Usher is worse than Bly Manor. Yeah, I think it goes Fall of the House of Usher, Bly Manor and then Hill House.
Georgia
I think I have a particular problem with Bly Manor because I hate the turning of the screw. I just think, like, congratulations to the first person who thought of the story. Right. But the amount of times it's been refangled, it's not that good of a story to have been done as many times as it has.
Helen
No, but that's the thing is, I also think it's not that interesting a story. So I was like, not being that, like, attached to the source material. You can only, like, make me like it more if you do a good job. Whereas the Fall of the House of Usher, if you really like it, they can only destroy it by making it worse. And that is what they did.
Georgia
I agree.
Helen
It was so bad.
Georgia
I know. What?
Helen
I don't know how bad it was.
Georgia
Beating of the hideous heart of the Netflix executive that's ruined my life.
Helen
Oh, God. It was so all of the. Oh, my God. The desperate clutching attempts to be relevant to young people. Kill me.
Georgia
Anyway, we're not going to be talking about Netflix. We're going to be talking about the real deal. Edgar Allan Poe himself and his life, because it was every bit as dark, as prophetic, as melancholy, as incesty, which everyone forgets as all of his best writing. And as for his death, well, fittingly for the inventor of the mystery novel, it is shrouded in secrets.
Helen
Found in a pub, wearing someone else's clothes, Poe was rushed to hospital, where he hallucinated and screamed incoherently for days, then died before he could say a word of explanation. It's a mystery that has stumped generations of writers with more than 26 published theories and counting. So what happened to Edgar Allan Poe? Here's the shorthand.
Georgia
So, first off, it's not actually just Poe's death that's shrouded in mystery. There's a lot about his life that's up for debate, including the very beginning, when and where he was born. He never had a birth certificate. Poe mostly said that he was born in Boston in 1809, but a lot of his biographers from the same time say that he was actually born in Baltimore in 1811. And since Poe also sometimes said that he was born in 1813, two years after his own mother died, were inclined to go with the biographers on that one. Either way though, it's a pretty dramatic start. His parents, Elizabeth and David, were both actors, and when he was born, they were both members of a repertory company in Boston. Even his name, Edgar, may well have come from King Lear, which is what they were practicing at the time he showed up. Edgar sucks so much as a character. I hate Edgar. I hate him. I had to sit through so many monologues. Oh my God, he's such a fucking drip anyway. Why? Bastard. Wet. Full bass. Fuck off. Don't care. Put a shirt on. The Poes were one of the oldest and most respected families in Baltimore. Edgar's grandfather was good pals with none other than the Lancelot of the revolutionary set. Lafayette, as in the Lafayette from Hamilton.
Helen
But if you think this is the classic Nepo baby story, think again. Because before Edgar's third birthday, both his parents would be dead. His mother died of tuberculosis at age 24 and Edgar's father, who had already abandoned the family, died just weeks later. So Edgar Allan Poe was an orphan at the age of just 2. Pretty on brand start to a horror author's life. By then Elizabeth had taken her children to Richmond, Virginia and there a rich merchant called John Allen had taken a fancy to the infant. That's what the biographies say anyway, which is an unnecessarily creepy way of saying that John and his wife hadn't had any kids of their own and saw the orphaned highborn boy as a nice opportunity to sub in as an heir. The Allans were another elite upper class family and though John Allan never legally adopted Edgar, he gave him every shot at success.
Georgia
In about 1815, little Edgar was taken to England to attend the Manor House School in Stoke Newington. And the Manor House School is. I'll take a picture of it where I'm going now because it's next to the dentist and there is a little rock that is like of the original Manor House School with a little plaque. And then there's a. Across the road there's like two plaques that say Poe on it. Apparently there's a bust. I don't think I've ever come across this bust. Anyway, after about five years in Stoke Newington, the Family returned stateside to Virginia, and Edgar got engaged to his childhood sweetheart, Sarah Elmira Roystep. He wanted to go off to university, and she said that she was fine to wait until he graduated to get married. So off he went. And he was at the University of Virginia for exactly 11 months before he was kicked out for not paying the fees. And by the time he returned, Elmira Royster was engaged to someone else.
Helen
11 months. Look, everyone's dying at like 24 of tuberculosis, I get.
Georgia
Turns out that even though Poe had been writing to Elmira the whole time, her dad had been intercepting the letters.
Helen
Oh, sneaky.
Georgia
Like in the notebook.
Helen
That's very Sad.
Georgia
That sneaky Mr. Royster was nudging Elmira towards another suitor, one who was on track to make a name for himself in the world of business, not some lanky, stringy writer who was firmly on track to be a penniless artist. He was not considered to be a particularly great prospect then, and he wouldn't be now either.
Helen
Nah. Especially since, like we said, Edgar Allan Poe was kicked out of uni for not paying his fees. And that's because his not actually adopted father, John Allen, had slightly dropped the ball on Poe's glittering education. Poe had arrived with $110, less than half of the tuition money that he needed. So naturally he'd gambled it to try and win the rest. Instead, he lost more than $2,000. Poe and Alan following this, had a massive bust up via letter, of course, and Alan refused to send any more money. So Poe went to Boston without a penny and published a pamphlet of poems called Tamburlaine and Other Poems. It did not make a splash. Poe was out on his arse in pretty much every way going. So he joined the army.
Georgia
He did a bit better there. He rose to regimental Sergeant Major in.
Helen
Just two years, so he'd naturally place Edgar Allan Poe. I didn't know that about him.
Georgia
And apparently getting that high up in just two years, even back then, is quite impressive. And John Allan liked where all of this was going, so he organized for Poe to get into a military school instead. But by this time, Poe was itching to get back to the poet life. And since John Allan wouldn't sign off on Poe's resignation, Poe basically skived and acted up until he was kicked out of the army. He was court martialled for extreme dereliction of duty. And then he went off to New York, where he started to pick up some steam. He published a collection of poems called Poems, several of which are now considered masterpieces, to be fair. So after some success on the poem front, he moved on to short stories, and he got some of those published as well. Metzengerstein was published in the Southern Literary messenger and is today considered to be the first modern horror story. That's very cool. And the follow up, Bernice, was so graphic and so terrifying that the paper that published it got complaints. The Southern Literary Messenger's editors, sensing Poe's genius and possibly courting the controversy at the same time, hired him as a literary critic and he became a respected voice in the arts.
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Helen
All of which sounds pretty great, but still wasn't enough to live on. What's more, Poe had properly fallen out with John Allen about Alan's new wife and when Alan died he ended up leaving Poe nothing. So Poe moved in with his aunt Maria Clem and his 12 year old cousin Virginia. Uh oh, here we go. He was pretty close to Maria and Virginia, calling Virginia sissy for sister and Maria Muddy for mother. And if you think that's gross then, well you're not going to like the next bit because the following year, 1836, Edgar Allan Poe married Virginia, his then 13 year old cousin, when he was 26.
Georgia
And it was a bit more common back then, but it wasn't that. I've read extensively on him marrying his cousin, right? And how acceptable it actually would have been not very like. It's, yes, more common than it is now, but it wouldn't have been like normal. Fine.
Helen
People would have been talking about it, doing it.
Georgia
Exactly.
Helen
And they weren't.
Georgia
Some biographers do try and clean this up, saying that they didn't really have that much of a physical relationship, but more of an emotional connection, more like they were brother and sister. But that's not great, is it, Edgar? Especially when quite a lot of your stories involve brothers and sisters fucking each other. Anyway, Edgar Allan Poe most certainly contained multitudes. He was skittish and spontaneous and he loved having affairs, especially with two women in particular, Francis Sergeant Osgood and Elizabeth F. Ellet. His affair with Elliot was so established and well known that when Virginia was on her deathbed years later, she would claim that Ellet had murdered her. But despite the many women he was involved with out of wedlock, he's maybe not the smooth Lothario that you possibly are imagining if you've never seen a fucking picture of him. And we do know, thanks to this Sick Burn from W.H. auden, who calls Poe an unmanly sort of man whose love life seems to have been largely confined to crying in laps. Lol. Barbaric.
Helen
Poe also, other than crying into laps, loved his boozing. He was eventually fired from the Southern Literary messenger for drinking and would lose a ton of opportunities the same way. Throughout his life, he was unable to speak in public without a little drinky, which would inevitably set him off on a mad bender. In his personal and professional affairs, Poe was erratic, to say the least. And we have another big literary name to back us up on that. George Orwell himself said that Poe was not far from being insane in the literal, clinical sense. But then again, Poe had an amazing creative and intellectual mind. The New York Tribune said this. His conversation was at times supra, mortal in its eloquence. His voice was modulated with an astonishing skill, and his large and expressive eyes shot fiery tumult into theirs. Who listened?
Georgia
In his writing, he obviously kept things quite gloomy. He had a knack for romanticising all things dark, occult and satanic. He drew from his own terrifying dreams and pulled them into surreal, impressionistic visions of terror and sadness, featuring powerful imagery of death, decay and loss. He'd write supernatural horror narratives that started domestic and then spun out into wild, dreamlike fantasies, only to reveal the true monster is the human capacity for evil itself. He moved around a lot in his life between various towns on the northeast coast, most of which we've not been keeping you up with. But his time in Philadelphia from about 1838 onwards was his real golden age. It was there that he bashed out the Tell Tale Heart, the Mask of the Red Death, the Black Cat, the Pit and the Pendulum, the Imp of the Perverse, which I'm gonna reserve as my rapper name. And then also my favourite, the Fall of the House of Usher and then the Murders in the Rue Morgue. The last one in that list is a short detective fiction story and is considered to be the originator of the entire murder mystery genre. It features an eccentric detective who solves bizarre puzzling crimes and it also inspired fairy loving Arthur Conan Doyle to invent Sherlock Holmes.
Helen
It was while he was working as sub editor at the New York Mirror that Poe first published his poem the Raven. In it, a narrator sits in a strange room and asks a raven about the possibility of seeing his love again in the afterlife. And the raven gives the constant reply nevermore. This was Poe's absolute smash hit. Charles Baudelaire said in his introduction to the French edition of the Raven, it lacks nothing, neither the fever of ideas, nor the violence of colours, nor sickly reasoning, nor drivelling terror, nor even the bizarre gaiety of suffering, which makes it more terrible.
Georgia
I'm always very impressed. I think that's just because language is just not something that I am good at. But when something like a poem is translated into another language and it's still good is like mind boggling to me. My favourite one though is that in order to make Tom Riddle make sense in the French version of Harry Potter, Voldemort's middle name has to be Elvis.
Helen
Brilliant. So yes, despite it being an absolute banger, Poe earned just $15 from the Raven's publication. It did however, open all sorts of doors for him in the literary world. He took on literary clients and was invited all over the world to give lectures and recite poems. He was the first American writer to live completely off his earnings from writing alone.
Georgia
But all that success and admiration's not very Halloweeny, is it? Well, never fear, nevermore. The tragedy is just around the corner. Not long after the publication of the Raven, Poe's wife and cousin and cissy and child died of tuberculosis at the age of just 24. Poe was massively reliant on Virginia for his emotional and mental well being and when she died, he spiralled. He had a string of affairs and short lived engagements and then turned in a big way to the booze. In 1848 he published Eureka, which he calls an explanation of the universe. Some people consider it a masterpiece, but quite a lot of other people think that it's incoherent gibberish.
Helen
Still, just before the end, there was a spell of calm happiness for Poe. He finally got re engaged to his school sweetheart, Elmira Royster, who'd been widowed for a few years. He also joined a temperance society, which is basically Alcoholics Anonymous, but way more morally intense and religiously motivated.
Georgia
Lizzie Borden was in a temperance society.
Helen
So finally it looked like things were smoothing out. Then, in 1849, Poe planned a trip. He would board a ferry from Richmond to Baltimore, then head on from there to New York. And he arrived as planned in Baltimore on 28 September. But he wouldn't leave alive.
Georgia
He saw a few acquaintances when he got there, but then disappeared for days. Then almost a week later, on October 3rd. It's October 3rd, he was seen sitting in a pub called Ryan's Tavern and he was in a bad way. A Baltimore printer called Joseph Walker found Poe, attempted to rouse him, but Poe was totally unresponsive. He could manage a few grunts and lurching movements, but not much more. He was also dressed quite strangely. Poe was known to always wear a tailored black woollen suit, but here he was in a very cheap, ill fitting suit that was way too big for him. Walker sent a note to a doctor called J.E. snodgrass. Snodgrass happened to know Edgar Allen Poe and he arrived quickly. He immediately said that Poe must have been incredibly bladdered and sent him to a hospital.
Helen
In hospital, Poe drifted in and out of consciousness for days. He woke up, hallucinated and rambled in strange nonsense before passing out again. And before he could become lucid enough to explain what was going on, Poe died on 7 October 1849. The newspapers reported the cause of death as congestion of the brain.
Georgia
I think I've got a bit of that.
Helen
And the doctors noted it down as parentesis, which means inflammation of the brain. But both terms are pretty nondescript, vague terms that doctors wrote when they had actually no idea what had happened. And the cause of death of Edgar Allan Poe quickly slipped into mystery. Like we said, there are more than 26 published theories as to what happened, from the mundane to those more fitting of our mystery writer.
Georgia
Firstly, let's knock out the obvious, that he just got absolutely rat arsed and then passed out. And then he died of alcohol poisoning, which feels quite neat. He was, after all, a lifelong boozy. Susie and Dr. J.E. snodgrass, the doctor who examined him first at the pub, was convinced that he was blackout drunk. But then again, Poe had recently joined a quite strict temperance society and had mostly stayed away from the bottle for quite a while. And it's not inconceivable that someone who swears to abstinence would relapse and then kill themselves with drinking because they'd have a break and their tolerance had gone out the window. So how about this? John Morin was the attending physician at the hospital for Poe's final few days. And he did spend days examining Edgar Allan Poe, much longer than Snodgrass had. And John Moran was resolute that Poe wasn't drunk, that he hadn't been drinking in the days leading up to his death. John Moran said there was no trace of alcohol in his system. And he added that the duration of Poe's illness and the fact that he seemed to recover slightly before he died very suddenly were inconsistent with alcohol withdrawal. Dr. Moran said that he thought it was much more likely that Edgar Allan Poe had been beaten by thugs.
Helen
Plot twist.
Georgia
Hmm.
Helen
So why would Snodgrass lie? Presumably because he's some sort of fucking made up fairy tale creature.
Georgia
What was it? The imp of the.
Helen
The imp of the perversion?
Georgia
Yeah.
Helen
Well, Dr. Snodgrass, as well as being a physician, was a made up magical creature. No, he was also a radical follower and proponent of. Of the temperance movement. He saw alcohol as a deep moral evil and preached that its total eradication was necessary for the good of society. So it's very likely that he could have seen Poe's death as an opportunity to spread the word. We even know that he changed Walker's note before he passed it on to the hospital, changing the words rather the worse for wear to deep intoxication and then to beastly intoxication.
Georgia
Been there a few times.
Helen
So the plot thickens. Another fairly popular theory goes that Poe in fact died of rabies.
Georgia
I've heard this one.
Helen
Rabies patients are known to appear to get better just before their deaths. If you want to know more about it, we have done an entire shorthand on rabies. It's somewhere in there. Dig it out. There are also hospital reports showing that Poe had had a lot of difficulty drinking water in the last few days. And fear of water is a classic rabies symptom.
Georgia
And yet another explanation, which is in the running for the favourite one, is that Edgar Allen Poe was a victim of cooping.
Helen
Never heard of it.
Georgia
I will explain. Back in those days, the olden times. The olden daysels. It was quite common to use drinking establishments as polling places, which is pretty Victorian era to me. That's where they got half the navy as well. And the tavern that Poe was found in before he went to hospital and died was at the time being used as a polling station. And there was a very naughty practice going around at the time called cooping, in which corrupt politicians would hire gangs of criminals to intimidate random people and force them to vote repeatedly for their candidate. They were even given a series of disguises to pass by multiple times without arousing suspicion.
Helen
Amazing.
Georgia
Often these poor people were beaten by these voting gangs or they were forced to drink alcohol to force them into passing their vote. So this theory could explain quite a lot why Poe was so disorientated, why he disappeared for several days and his doctor saying that he had been beaten by thugs and also his weird ill fitting suit that didn't belong to him.
Helen
So, yes, there are plenty of other explanations which include, but are not limited to, diabetes, heart disease, epilepsy, tuberculosis, suicide, murder, cholera, hypoglycemia, syphilis, influenza, and maybe even a brain tumour. And it is certainly possible that Poe got cooped. Really, we'll never know what went down or how he really died. Leaving us with Poe's greatest and most vexing mystery of all.
Georgia
I think he got cooped and one of the thugs bit him and gave him rabies.
Helen
Love it. Still, at the rate Poe was going at the time, his death was going to happen sooner or later. As the Buffalo Commercial put it in their report on his death, we hope he has found rest. But he needed it. That's good.
Georgia
I like that because he looked like shit. And he also gave us a hell of a lot. In his 40 years on Earth, he's considered the architect of the modern short story. He was an enormous influence on French symbolists like Baudelaire and Verlant, as well as Russian greats like Dostoevsky, who all went on to change modern literature in their own way. In works like the Unparalleled Adventure of Hans Fall and Von Kempelen and his discovery, Poe built on early science fiction writing to create a blueprint for modern sci fi. And like we said, he practically invented both mystery novels and modern horror itself. So what we're saying is that he's the Beatles of books. So whatever flavor of spooky entertainment that you are lining up for the next few days, take a second to thank the real mastery of the macabre, the man behind it all, the man behind every single curtain he's behind you right now, Edgar Allan Poe.
Helen
I'm here for it. And happy Halloween.
Georgia
Yeah, you deserve it.
Helen
You do.
Georgia
Goodbye. Bye.
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Georgia
Crime scene Are we really safe? Is our water safe? You destroyed our tap.
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Georgia
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In this Halloween-themed “ShortHand” episode, hosts Georgia and Helen tackle the strange, unresolvable case of Edgar Allan Poe’s mysterious death. They blend dark humor with compelling historical storytelling to trace how the godfather of modern horror and detective fiction lived, wrote, and died — focusing especially on the enduring mystery of his final days.
Theory 1: Alcohol Poisoning
Theory 2: Beaten by Thugs
Theory 3: Rabies
Theory 4: Cooping
Other Theories:
This episode masterfully blends the eerie and the absurd, offering a whirlwind tour of Poe’s troubled existence, groundbreaking art, and the mystery that still lingers over his death. Listeners get not just a biography, but a taste of how Gothic myth and reality blur in the life and last moments of one of horror’s true architects. As the hosts suggest, Poe’s ultimate legacy is that he’s still haunting us—nevermore far from our cultural imagination.